4 Friends Go on a Road Trip/Camping & Hiking Trip in SOCAL.. Car found Burned up in the Desert
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- Опубликовано: 30 окт 2024
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Hello everyone. In today's video I'll be discussing a case that I'm petty sure none of you have ever heard about. it was kept out of the media because of the families.
I have changed all the names of the people involved and was told this by another search and rescue member who used to work law enforcement in CA.
My thoughts and prayers go out to all their friends and families 🙏
This story was told to me and many aspects, names have been changed. see below.
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This story was told to me this past summer while I was out west by some former officer that now works SAR. All the names and various aspects of what really happened have been changed. I do not know the real names, and yes I'm sure many will ask about court records and various other details. I just don't know and I'm sorry if this is upsetting but I wanted to share the case details as I know them with you.
Hello all just an fyi, this isn't my story and like I said it was told to me..if it's not true so be it.. but I found the level of detail was too much for it to be made up. Yes many details have been changed including the names of all involved.. so yes there's probably records on whatever John's real name is and his court case but I don't know it.. I'll definitely keep you informed if I get anymore info. Thank you for watching🙏
I’m going to watch this again tomorrow - it was too confusing for mr tonight!
This was a cool new style of content. Thank you for reporting it.
@@BlkHwkDwn63 he didn't "report" anything. we have no names or proof that this is anything more than just a story of fiction.
families can't decide what can and can't be published like in a newspaper. news is news.
this is fantasy.
Bryan, don't understand why the families got lawyers involved.
WTH is it with Mike Smith? If he had just posted that once, I might have given his opinion more credit but he seems to be just a troll looking for attention. Hope you dont get discouraged about people like this.
@@MikeSmith-cn6ub 🤡
I think the LAPD Officer who found Jamie’s burned out car should get an award. Followed a gut feeling while enjoying his free time, miles away from his employer and discovered a suspicious burned out car. That’s amazing!
Absolutely! He broke the case!
@@patrick8030 I question this too. Families or their lawyers cannot keep a sensational murder/three missing young people as this was supposed to be out of the news, it's just not done that way. Why was there never any talk about a trial; how could LAPD just send a person to prison, for what? No bodies, cars burned, no trial. Strange indeed. It is a strange story, but too many questions not answered to be real.
I nominate a PARTICIPATION TROPHY or Medal.
@@ItsAllOptics stop 🛑
No bodies found???
It just goes to show you that you don’t really know somebody that seems nice at first. It takes a while to really get to know somebody and unfortunately these young people were with somebody unstable. Sad!
How do YOU know?
One guy against 3 others? Really odd, unless he was planning on harming them. There’s no bodies so no evidence. As time goes by it will be harder and harder to prove cause of death. I hope they searched the car area because he couldn’t have gotten far. He would of had to dumped them somewhere with the car then drive off
@@whitedragoness23 lol simp! he obviously killed them all. why else would he be in jail?
So true!!!
@@etziowingeler3173 The police saw him ( John ) with a stolen car after his 3 friends went missing. How many stable people do you know hang out aimlessly for hours at a gas station with a stolen vehicle ( connect the dots )
Wait a minute...John is serving 40 years for something, but Bryan isn't "allowed to know" what the charges were? Since when are convictions not on the public record?
LOL,,, I just now responded to His Story!!! This guy Brian is making things up as he Goes!! And to think I subscribed to this Guy!
It must be something big like murder to get 40 years in California. One stolen car wouldn't get you that unless he had prior convictions. Being a major drug dealer might get you 40 years.
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@@ricardocastaneda8276
This is youtube, full of BSers trying to get views.
Bryan can't give names of anyone because the case doesn't actually exist, no family members or media have ever posted anything because it doesn't exist, and there is no public record of any such conviction either because this is all a story made up by a guy trying to get views, welcome to youtube. lol
I must say, as a new subscriber myself, I'm finding this odd too. I doubt very much authorities would not allow media to know anything when 4 young people are missing. Not for the sake of one cancer stricken parent. Look at the massive search for Laci Peterson. Here we have not one but 4 people missing! Then 'we have a trial' which ended with 40 years for 'john' (no last name) and there's no mention of said trial and outcome anywhere. Interestingly Bryan says the names in this story have been changed. I thought this channel was great but I'm not so sure now. 🤔
They couldn’t have been very intelligent if they continued with their trip knowing how hot it was there, they weren’t used to it, and weren’t prepared for that hot environment.
That 'Into the wild' sign kind of says a lot. Her hero was naive, under-prepared & over-confident.
@@houseofsolomon2440 or just dead doing what she was trying.
Small correction. Lone pine campground is different from Whitney portal. Lone pine campground is in the desert valley while Whitney portal is higher up in the canyon at 8000ft.
You can actually hike to Whitney portal from lone pine campground. It’s a beautiful hike. You start at the dry desert and once you enter the canyon it transforms into an alpine climate. Very interesting area
I looked at the map and saw this .
Good pickup on the different camp sites
LOL yes, when I was driving to Whitney Portal I was sure I was going the wrong way because the route is all desolated desert. Then suddenly you're in a mountain forest.
Sounds beautiful 🤩
Gorgeous area- I frequently have camped there and Alabama Hills
Fascinating. Questions: *Did you say John is serving 40 years? From this I infer he was convicted of murder, but of these murders or for previous crimes? Aren't court records public information? If prosecution and sentencing happened after he was arrested--a year after he was found--where is the record of that?
*Secondly, how in hell do you prevent any word of a story like this from leaking via any one of a million internet accounts?
*Third, the timeline is weird: It sounds as if about one week passed from the apparent disappearances to finding John, with his greatly altered hair, piercings, etc. And in that time he had been able to dispose of three bodies, burn a car, steal another car, burn it, and then spend--what was it? two days? hanging around a gas station. John is quite the fast worker.
Color me curious. Love to have this cleared up!
I think it's clearly a fake story. There would have been posts from family members on Facebook. This would have been widely reported in the media. There's simply no way around it. I think he tries to insinuate that the family with the father dying of cancer was their reason to keep it out of the media as if that were even possible. Makes no sense to me.
A real court case like this would have been highly unlikely to not be picked up by the media.
I wonder why a Los Angeles police officer investigated a loiterer in Ridgecrest which is 2.5 hours out of his city in a totally different county. I don't think this really happened.
How sad. Hoping John never walks as a free person again. Ever. Thanks for your kindness Bryan
Agree.
I'm a USD graduate, class of '88, my condolences to the families. John and his parents sound like the Laundries
It’s a fake story
This is so heartbreaking. You just don't know who to trust any more.
@@patrick8030
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@@gailmiller6333report him.
Hi Bryan I can’t choose just one video as my favorite because I really enjoy all of them. I really like how you tell the story, you don’t drag it out or make up any false allegations and you are very compassionate. Thank you for all of your hard work and dedication. My thoughts and prayers are with all of the families and friends of the missing loved ones.
Melissa. I agree. Bryan also has a very pleasant voice which is easy to listen to.
I agree
This is why I don't go to remote places with anyone or by myself alone. It is staggering the number of people who die while hiking or traveling in Death Valley or simply disappear in State parks and the like.
Missing 411
Meh
Not really. The State Park system in the U.S. covers an enormous area.
So how do you travel?
You just need a way to protect yourself. You can't live inside all day alone, because something might happen. Do you drive?
“They were all extremely intelligent.” Yet they were confused that the desert was hot. 😂😂😂
Excellent point. Your kitty is quite the looker, BTW.
Intelligent in their field but not overall when it comes to common sense or knowledge. One sister with a high IQ went camping with family and friends, wanted to know where she could plug in her hair dryer in the woods ( maybe too much alcohol also)
Death Valley is a different type of hot- it'll melt or blow out your tires and hard-boil your eyeballs.
@@temporarilyimmortal795 Thus it’s name “DEATH Valley”?
@T Raybern 😂😂😂
If this were true, "Katie, Brad and Jaimie" families would be making it public. There is no way anyone would keep this quiet if their beloved family member was still missing. I think you got BS'ed by someone.
Yeah, it all seems very suspicious. I couldn't find a single piece of information to back this story up. Even with the hidden identities, it would be hard to contain a story of 4 college students all going missing and no classmates or friends back home saying anything. I couldn't even find an obscure sight verifying any of these details.
Yes, John is doing 40 years but no one will tell him what for? Sounds fishy.
Yes, while I was listening I was thinking no one could stop me from going to the media about my missing kid. I wouldn't give a rat's ass what that other parent thought. And as someone else pointed out, 40 years for what? No mention of a trial. And no confession to avoid a trial. A good campfire story?
Me I believe I would avoid death valley it's called death valley for a reason
It's called a 'psy-op'@@MercedesSmoker
My siblings and I recently went through something. Our baby brother was in ICU for six weeks and he ultimately passed away. There was so many decisions to be made. Our parents and one other sibling have passed already in last 12 years. He was 34. So there was nothing in place. But luckily we agreed on everything. But we had said several times through this process what if we didn't agree. We would have had to go through legal routes. We can't even imagine what that must have been like for families go through. Especially if loved ones missing or something nefarious happened. Hopefully things will work out for the families. The wilderness and landscape can be a fragile thing. I work in Oregon and outside the city it can get very isolated quickly. I can see how things can go wrong very fast for some people. People go missing all the time around here. Some are experienced, some are not.
Are you aware that some idiots back East still think we are still in the frontier? Or we are all Loggers. Or Deadheads. Or, here is a old one, old hippys.
@@jannythewonderwomen2215 lol no. But it wouldn't surprise me.
I am so very sorry.
Sorry for your losses.
I don't think so. Too many people involved with no reason not to go to the media. I call RUclips BS.
I appreciate you covering this story. So sad for all the families.
Thank you!
One family didn’t want to publicly get help for FOUR people who may be in immediate mortal peril, to spare the feelings of the one who was old and more slowly dying in the comfort of their own home/ hospice. 👏 👏 👏 nice priorities. What a family.
Wow, Byran, this story had so many turns. I hope that justice is served for the victims, and their families. Thank you for another stellar video.
@@patrick8030 So, where are your facts? Why the hate dude?
@@patrick8030 Where are your facts dude.?
Maybe you have be misinformed. So why call someone like Bryan a bad name? Jealousy I'm sure.
Give your head a shake and think. Do you seriously believe 4 young people go missing, would not be spread in the media from one end of the country to the other? Legally law enforcement would NEVER keep things quiet on a missing person case, let alone 4 young college students. They wouldn't keep it out of media just because some family member has a terminal illness. THINK. If you can't figure out just look to the 4 Idaho students who've been murdered in Moscow, ID. It's heard about around the world right now. That type of news breaks like wildfire, no one could keep anything secret. You think 4 kids going to university, didn't have friends etc. who would wonder where they were? Let alone one of the guy goes to prison for 40 years. It's Illegal to keep that information from the public. This story is fake, it never happened, Even those of us into serious true crime, it takes less than 10 minutes to check out so many aspects of this story, regardless of him using different names. This never happened, don't waste your time. It sure is suspect that he would mention "4 college students" right around the time when there actually are 4 students in Idaho who've been murdered.
@@ItsAllOptics You must think that people care what you think? Blah Blah. Take your hate up with someone else.
I think the best travel companion is a protection trained Rottweiler.
I'm finding this one hard to believe. It's one thing to have limited media coverage on a case, but to not be able to find any information whatsoever regarding it is very suspicious, especially when it involves 4 young adults in college, all of whom I would assume to have other friends back home that would have likely said something to somebody. It's just hard to actually believe when I can't find any information about the "facts" that were given about this case. Nothing about a group going missing, an officer finding a car in the desert, or anything else mentioned. Not to mention, the fact that it's very hard to believe that a family would greatly decrease the chance of finding their child to prevent the father from *possibly* finding out about it.
Yeah, I think this a fake story.
I lived in San Diego in the mid 1990s, and one of the best vacations I’ve ever taken was to go up 395, hike and bike around Lone Pine for awhile, a little lazy hiking partway up Whitney, took a side trip to Death Valley, and finally pressed on through Yosemite. Would love to go back some time.
395 is hell if you get stuck behind a slow semi trailer. Not only are the passing lanes sparse but there have to be concrete barriers in between the lanes to prevent dolts from trying to overtake slower vehicles and crashing into oncoming traffic. The scenery doesn't make up for the road rage.
Did u go thru Mono or Toulomne
I was routed up 395 driving a semi; a beautiful drive all the way!
@@sunnyskye213 don’t remember, that was a long time ago
Long road trips sometimes bring the worst out of people. Sometimes people don’t realize until it’s too late to turn back, be mindful who or whom you go on a road trip with.
Reminds me of Gabby Petito. She went on a road trip with a man she thought she knew, He killed her.
I went on a long road trip once with a friend and she ended up sulking; it was a nightmare........ended the friendship.....
@@margretsims1322 after a rough breakup my best friend convinced me to leave New Jersey on a whim to go to Colorado and start a new life. I was a mess at the time and had been drinking since the AM. He didn’t get to my house until after his shift at 7. So let’s say 8pm he got to my house and said let’s go Tonight. I barely remember packing and next thing I know I wake up 2 states away. We figured might as well continue onward despite being embarrassed that I decided to up and leave my family with no notice. He started acting really unhinged , recently he had stopped taking some pretty intense medications that were mood stabilizers. He started meditating in the middle of grocery stores. Buying these expensive electronics when we were on a pretty tight budget. Telling me I had to carry a knife everywhere we went. Ended up getting a room from this old guy and his grand kids in wheat ridge Colorado. It felt like a house of horror. The grandpa would always be yelling at the grand kids, dogs locked outside barking all day. I even tried to get a job at a McDonald’s down the road, I wrote the address we were staying at and the manager goes “oh you live at Jimmy’s house” I was awoken to three men banging on the front door at 7am . I thought for sure I could be killed. I think it was a drug dealing house of sorts. Not to mention I got pneumonia a couple days after being there. My friend was just acting like a psychopath. One of the most horrible experiences of my life. 10 years of friendship and I had to leave and go home . Never to speak to him again. Strangely I got a call from my ex girlfriend asking why he was trying to hook up with her and asking where I was. I feel bad for him. But I’m grateful God didn’t allow me to get hurt or die on the way
This is one of the strangest stories I've heard to date. I can't believe I've never heard about it but with all the secrecy that makes sense. I think it's key to get the media talking about it as quickly as possible and to have that out of the equation doesn't seem helpful. Totally bizarre. If you ever happen to get updates, like names maybe or a change in their missing status please let us know - I have a feeling we won't hear about it in the media lol. Thanks Bryan!
Why not I media do you think ?
I'm pretty sure this story is mostly made up.
If he got 40 years I think he's already been done for murder... I believe all three of them
i reported this as being not real. it happened in 2015, AND he didnt provide any decent info to research it. no last names even though they are all over 18.
i tried numerous searches and nothing comes up.
My thoughts exactly!!
Why was LAPD investigating this missing person's incident if it was out of their jurisdiction ,the sheriff's in lone pine or the area where the vehicle was found burn should be the investigating agency not LAPD. This story has too many holes.
Bryan, I've seen some of your earlier video's but hdn't seen anything in a while, thi was well narrated. thank you for story telling
This is a tough one for the families. What stands out here are: They were college kids and they were friends. Immaturity, lack of experience and not a high standard for friend.
I’m very thankful I survived my adventures with so called friends when I was in that age group. Learning experiences that made me wiser and very few in life that I call friend…
Glynn, when I was younger and naive, I always thought that if I admired someone and considered myself their friend then they felt the same way about me. Sadly was not true and I now realize that of all the people I have known only two were really my friend and one of those was my spouse. I used to love people and really enjoyed going to parties and meeting and talking to new people. Now I don't.
It's sad to learn about the true inward feelings of most people.
@@jerrylee8261
Hi Jerry, Thank you for your response. Precisely, when you admire someone you are a friend too. The saying is, you get back what you put out, but many times I didn’t get that in return. I’m glad your spouse is your close friend. With an approximate 50% divorce rate. It is risky too, emotionally, financially and especially when you love your children you are separated from. That was my biggest agony. I would still prefer to be a good person. I’ve always believed even in my worst times, when my faith was at a minimum. There has to be a higher power and accounting for how we conduct ourselves. Well, God knows the truth I would tell myself. That would give me some comfort as I moved on in life again. Discernment is a great asset. Take good care…
Very few... I have gotten to zero "friends" n only a few family members that I trust.
You copy paste this under every comment?
Yup.
He was in a stolen car and they let him go?! That makes no sense. I would believe the story if real names and facts were given. I don’t know if I believe this. If he was arrested and serving 40 years (for what?) there was a trial and it’s public knowledge and you can give his name and more actual facts. Please do that. Sounds like 3 people were murdered. Nobody should be trying to keep it a secret for any reason
Hi Brian
I m in Massachusetts and I think I have a strange disappearance
It happened last year at the quabbin reservoir in ma.
If you're interested just get back to me on the comment then we'll work out a way I can pass you some info
There are zero acceptable reasons for any of the families missing members to hush this up. I fully understand why the suspect's family would want to hush this up but then they deserve zero respect either. Release the names please.
It’s weird 4 people go missing and none of the families want this out in the media seems suspicious to me.
Very suspicious
3 of the 4 families wanted the information out. What isn't clear is, why didn't the 3 families just go to them media themselves?
@@thelogicaldanger good question
They wanted to spare the dieing father , but I'm sorry if my kid was out there , the more people involved , in finding these kid's the better
This story is fake!!
hello Bryan, thank you for your precious time.I hope and pray everything works out with the case.stay safe out there my friend.
I just subbed. I love listening to your voice. It reminds me of when I was younger and friends would hang out at my house and we would tell some creepy stories. Good times then and your voice reminds me of them. Thanks 👍 😊
Wow. Amazing story! Thanks for sharing. 😊
So very tragic!!!!!!!! Thank you Bryan for helping bring these stories to light!! I too pray for all these kids including John.
This is a F A K E story.
There is no way 4 families would keep this quite.
Friends of the students would never keep quite, social media would be plastered with missing posters.
You know this how? Oh right just your opinion
@@alysonbancroft3476 Calm down Karen 😂
Sorry I see now my reply was totally overboard and hysterical....
@@alysonbancroft3476lol
@alysonbancroft3476
No. No, it wasn't.
@mangosmoothie7083
I can't decide which of your stories I like the best because they are all good but I really like this one I guess because I do camp in the desert and I do all so in the mountains.
Thank you so much for uploading a new video . Im slowly recovering from a heavy case of the flu. I’ve been in bed for two weeks . I needed something to break up the monotony of being house bound for what feels like forever . I used to stay in Ridgecrest in the late 60s. I love the desert.
My friend had that flu. She couldn't get out of bed for 9 days. Hope you're better.
I had that same crud. For three weeks, it was just back and forth to the bed to rest and sleep. It's been about two weeks, and I still have a lingering cough.
My friend was murdered in NM by dopeheads. His car was found weeks before he was. It was burned and abandoned in the middle of nowhere. To hide evidence.
RIP Matthew Gurule
I so enjoy your channel. You are a caring individual.
Genuine and caring
I really enjoy all your videos. Thank you for sharing your time and videos with us.
Media can really help in a case like this. You should just do it. I never heard of lawyers stopping media involvement. If I want to tell media my daughter is missing then I do it
One of my favorite videos is the one about the two missing hikers that met at the airport....Javier and Alex. Such a good story. Thank you for all you do
Thank you so much for your story telling and that you are always so kind or maybe considerate is better, to the deceased. Sending many regards from Germany
wow so interesting and horrible! how could anything so terrible happen that would cause John do this?!?! there is so much more to know. let’s hope john talks!!
@@patrick8030 how do you know? why are you so upset?
I live very close to the areas where these kids were traveling. I have never even heard of this story. I wish there was more information about who these kids were. How sad.
He made the story up.
At 1st I was like "this kind of doesn't make sense" and then I was like :what a coincidence he's been to all the same small towns as these people" and then I was like "this really doesn't make sense" and finally I was like "I'd really like to have that 20 minutes back."
Never drive long distance in the desert in the daylight if summer or late spring.Something happens to the car you are away from towns you are "F"d.Even with water .Drive at night and plan your jumps between habitated places.Hope everything goes ok.Lots of rattlesnakes slithering on the roads at night .Go in the winter.More RVrs and drivers to help if needed.
What a weird story, so full of missing info, vital to the solution of the case. I hope there's closure soon. RIP to the three young people who met a tragic destiny. Thx Bryan for your research.💕
Wow. This is a bit of a mess. I hope the young people are found and everything comes to light. Thank you for bringing the victims to our attention. I've never heard of this one. My prayers for them and their families.
Prayers for the bereaved loved ones 🙏. Thk you Bryan for bringing this event to our attention.
What a sad situation! Praying for all these families.
Three people missing & never heard of this case. Very sad. Hope John gives the true story & the families can have answers.
I live in Ridgecrest. I’ll look more into this. Thank you for sharing! Favorite video!
Fascinating mystery. Can’t believe I’ve never heard of this case ever. Ty Brian for the upload. You also have a very pleasant voice.
How horrible. I don't think they should have kept it from the media, that isn't fair for the other families. They could have much easier kept the news away from the father.
Exactly. What selfish people.
Wonderful coverage, as always. It never ceases to amaze me how amazing Bryan is in honoring & respecting the victims & their families in each video; thank you, Sir, for your sincere empathy & tenderness when covering these sad tales.
God bless all those affected by this terrible loss of young, promising life! Hopefully that man's conscience will eventually lead him to share what those poor families so desperately need to know.
Much love from West Texas 💕
It’s a fake story
Thank you Bryan..it really is an eye opener at times, hearing about cases such as this. Why people take such risks, no forward planning etc.
Never miss any of your videos. You are a wonderful narrator and do such a great job at researching. Take care there. Look after yourself Bryan. Best wishes from New Zealand 🇳🇿 ❤
They didn't prepare because they were kids! They were just college kids looking for fun.
@@lindabrennan4455 they werent kids
@@lindabrennan4455 I've had three and they would never have gone into an area without knowing what to expect. Or be prepared. Death Valley....I don't even live there, am thousands of miles away and yet even I know it's hot!! Just as one of the parents stated. Very foolish.
@@nickyblue4866 in some circles they were kids. They were sheltered college kids.
@@patrick8030
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Worked for DOJ intelligence gathering, the officers gave us some details but you got a lot. These kids were totally unprepared for this trip although I admire their spirit. Can't think of a single reason to burn a car, luckily the plate was found. Would be interesting to see the case file as there are many missing pieces. John may never give up anything as he seemingly no longer cares. I hope the families resolve their issues and get closure.
Burned the car to destroy fluid evidence
Thought that was pretty clear.
@@dustinrogers5384 me too…😂
Pfffffft. Haha
Care to expound on why a missing persons case without an active homicide investigation falls under federal DOJ jurisdiction? No need to lie to strangers on the internet
Wow! Thats such a crazy story! Very sad though. I pray they find out what happened to the missing kids. Really tragic for their families.
Wow. Terrible situation. Young and adventurous...then the dream becomes a nightmare. Condolences to the families.
I love this guy's voice. It's soo nice.
Yes, indeed having "friends and neighbors" is highly over rated! Make haste slowly, proceed with caution and trust no one!
Hi Bryan👋🏻
Just want to let you know how great & compassionate your videos are.
Peace🦋
Seems like a case of human trafficking to me. John likely made a deal to deliver the women is what I'm thinking. Makes most sense.
Wow! Don't repeat this case. Tragedy!! Thank you for such a good job
Even IF my dad was terminally ill, he would be more devastated to know we didn't do everything on our power to find his child. Even HE would want to get the public involved.
Exactly! Sounds like a "story" to me.
I don't know if alerting the media would have changed any of this but it should have been used, IMO. I bet Jamie's dad was furious when he found out they didn't use the media because of his health. I would be. And the other parents had rights, too. Such a tragedy 😢
What does his cancer have to do with finding his daughter??
@@annehedonia156 he was dying? And family members didn't want to upset him
@Vivian Okay, but I'm sure Dad would want to know about his daughter! If someone kept information about MY CHILD from me, I would be so angry, cancer or no cancer. Even IF I was dying, I would say, "Forget about me and GO FIND HER!" It might have even given him something to hang on for.
John needs too owns it !he knows what happened toos his friend's ! Come on John gives these families closers ! As truth wills set you free ! Feels the loads lifts offs your shoulders !! Thank you
John is a fictional character. The story is fake.
I enjoyed this video. I’m also subscribed because I like how you present your content. I wear head phones & can still work around the house. Thumbs up.
I would never live in or near a desert. I like green and rain ☔️
This is the 1st I've heard of this story n I live close in the area.
Condolences to the families n missing college students. 😔
This is a tough one to watch. Sounds like a human trafficking thing to me. The guy that was left was probably the finder and what is sad is they probably will never be found. Happens all over the country and is rarely ever talked about. That's what is even worse! Just sad....
This story does not seem credible. I do not believe it occurred. I’m very familiar with this area, the directions do not make sense. I also attended USD. There is no train or train station that runs through this area, unless we are talking about the ‘Yellowstone’ train station. This story would have leaked through these kids numerous social media outlets, including snap chat. The trial would have been all over the news.
Good program I enjoy your reporting a lot . Good work. 👍
I hope your able to keep us updated on this one, it's a true mystery. What happened to the other three? Only John knows, they would of contacted family by now.
If "John" was convicted and serving 40 years, how is that not public information. I think the story is BS.
Since it's impossible to choose just one favourite video, I'll just say thanks for all your hard work on this channel. I have learned a few things about how to stay safe on hikes even if though I'd probably never hike solo. I learned that there are things you can be mindful of even when hiking with a friend or a group (even from reading the comments that people leave on your videos).
@@patrick8030 if you have something you would like to say, why not say it? Replying to every post with your cryptic, negative statement is very odd.
As far as your reference towards Bryan - anyone that has watched a number of his videos knows what a great soul this man has so your accusations ridiculous.
I suspect if one were to look at the communication amongst these four and between parents and their children in say, the 6 month lead up to this excursion then things would become clearer. For whom was John waiting. This person might have knowledge of the situation. To me it seems it appears to have been planning involved. It takes some doing and coordination to torch a vehicle, to acquire a stolen vehicle etc.. Also, when the communication stopped, date, time, and location would be important. Many questions!!!!!!!!!!
Is this why they took two cars to begin with??? One knew that some weren't coming back so he would need a ride.
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Why would LA be involved in a suspicious man loitering in Ridgecrest? They have their own police. They're in Kern Cty and LA is in LA Cty.
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Wow. Good story and creepy as hell. The real story must be incredible. Thanks.
May the Lord God watch over them where ever they are. May He also guide John to the truth and repentance for his crimes.
Well the families fighting to that degree gives some insight on how four friends fell apart so quickly. I'd imagine as they were in contact with their families you had more than four people trying to make decisions on the trip route, "my mom says we should do this, my dad says it would be cheaper to do that, my mom and dad says the car belongs to them so we do what I say..." See how that could get really ugly really fast? Cell phone data should help with this case but also the data of family members.
What the heck is wrong with that family, protecting the dying father while supposedly living daughter is missing.
They're fake, the whole story is fake.
This is so sad. Seems reasonable to think that John murdered his friends.
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Thank you for continuing to do what you do. I hope and pray you get better quickly. As a side notee i have a non verbal aitistic 7 year old son who always stops what hes doong when he hears your voice. Your voice and thomas the train fascinate him.
I remember hearing about this one. Great detail on the video!
Where else can I get info on this case?
Yes I can't find anything on this situation?
Great story!... But you left out the part where they were walking in a forest and met Hansel and Gretel. Then Gretel took the 4 of them to her wicked Aunties house and made them eat cookie children made from "special" gingerbread!...lol.
But seriously, I agree with the other folks who think this is an urban legend. Mostly because if "John got 40 years" there would be easily obtainable court documents. Also as others have mentioned there is no family that would remain silent when a loved one is missing. Not on this planet.
Great story though, you really are a good story teller, appreciate your efforts.👍
Arrest, sentencing, etc. *is a matter of public record. I am skeptical.
Also the fact the LA police were hours out of their jurisdiction when they went to talk to the guy loitering at the gas station. Ridgecrest police would have handled it, no LA who are 2.5 hours away in another county.
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It seems like John was a wolf amongst the sheep. I pray that they will find the bodies sometime soon. I pray that the family will have peace. What a difficult situation for them to be in. My heart breaks for them.😢
How bizarre! Isn’t his arrest record public information? So sad that one family could prevent the release of information to the public! It’s strange lawyers had to get involved. It just doesn’t make sense!
I lived in Ridgecrest/Inyokern for 10 years. Been to all the locations you mentioned. There are hundreds of mine shafts all over that desert. Holes in the ground that go straight down. Sometimes hikers or dirt bike riders fall into them. The joke/truth is that the mine shafts are a great place to hide a body. Wouldn’t surprise me if that’s where they are.
Me my girlfriend n her mom we are going to LA next month on a Friday night & the interstate 10 passes through a deserted place in Joshua tree National park & it seems like you can get lost in the surrounding mountains easily
The SoCal desert hides many secrets.
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Interesting story but I’m wondering why the families of the other three felt they had to get attorneys. You don’t need anyone’s permission to speak to the media especially when it involves your missing child. Doesn’t make sense.
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Unbelievable! Thanks for getting your video out.