American Reacts First Modern War? - Boer War 1899-1902 (Documentary)
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
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Rhodesia (named after Cecil Rhodes) became Zimbabwe.
Though the Netherlands didn’t play an official role in this war, the Dutch queen and the Dutch public were closely following this war. They supported the Boeren/Boers in their struggle to remain independent. The Boer leader Paul Kruger was a hero in the Netherlands, and was welcomed as such by queen Wilhelmina of the Netherlands. Many neighborhoods & streets are still named for events, places and war hero’s of the Boer wars. One of the main shopping streets in my city of Haarlem, was named after Boer general Cronje.
Wow. Bit loose on the facts there. The Boers left the Cape for quiet a few reasons. Slavery was not the main issue. Language, culture, taxation and religion were the main reasons. Also there was no such thing as South Africa at that time. There was wars before this, most specifically the theft of Kimberly from the Free State by the British after the discovery of diamonds. The subsequent discovery of gold deep in the ZAR, needed a reason to start a fight by Rhodes. The behavior of the British changed over time. Honorable gentlemen generals such as Robert's were replaced by generals who had previously massacred natives in the Sudan and India. Finally these generals came up with a scorched earth policy burning farms and starving Afrikaaners and Black people alike. There was no honour in all of this. It was about acquiring the gold fields.
His reasoning behind the Great Trek is flawed. Not the best documentary out there.
The movie "Young Churchill" covers this and is a wonderful yarn. Winston was an actor ... playing Winston from a young age. He was perfect for a political career. By that time he had seen four wars ... and fearless. This continued in WWI and WWII ... in both cases it was GB declaring war on Germany. Turkey committed deliberate genocide against the Armenians ... they were the first in that category.
He tries to be objective, and i appreciate that. I got some family ties to the Boer and have visited my relatives few times, it is still a touchy subject. I guess i am ofcourse also biased but beware this is based on British reports and those who win write history, never forget that. The events were the same, the interpretation of the facts quite different.
1. In this case it really wasnt about ending slavery for the British empire. It was about the resources = gold. If they cared about that so much the treaty would have been different.
2. He acts as if the conditions in the camps were unintentionally bad. That is something myself and others would disagree on. They basically held the boers wives and children hostage , the message was : surrender or their suffering will continue and get worse.
I do consider The emperial Government not to be the same as the British people at the time. The people really didnt have much to say, and did what they could with the little power they had. Their own situation wasnt that great at that time either. The Aristocracy is whole other story, if there is anyone to to blame for the misery at the time, it's them.
South africa is a magnificent country by the way. If you can avoid politics it is a great place to visit. ✌️❤️
Small corrections 1) The biggest Afrikaner trouble with the British wasn't slavery but the massive taxes that the British brutally enforced upon the Afrikaners. Some Afrikaners were hanged for refusing to pay the High English taxes, huge numbers were jailed because, according to the English, they under paid their taxes. 2) Most of the 'slaves' were apprentices, craftsmen of various technologies paid for by the Dutch from their owners, the Dutch, British, Portuguese etc. in Batavia, Indonesia, Sumatra, Malaysia etc. and the British refused to pay the Afrikaners out-naturally all these 'slaves' then worked for the British who paid them a pittance. Many OTHER Brutal British factors played, as was in the rest of the english empire, Including the Americas a role here!
It's important to recognise the bad actions of the past but it's equally important to try to understand why they were comitted, and an integral part of that is trying to understand different people's circumstances and motivations; in other words: empathy. It's one of the hardest things to force upon yourself, but you can't really learn from the mistakes of others if you don't. Demonising people is bad, folks.
The Boer War is weirdly not a subject in Dutch history classes. the whole Dutch history of South Afrika isn't even a subject, while the history of the Dutch in Indonesia is a subject throughout college.
Look up the South African special forces aka Recces (and also the SA police unit the Special Task Force). Also look up The Battle of Bangui.
I have to agree with you. The Concentration camps were not death camps, they were more like prisons. They were badly run on purpose perhaps but we are not talking Nazi concentration death camps here. You always get people pointing out that the British invented concentration camps. This is simply not true. There are many types of concentration camps even today, they are called prisons. If you are fighting a guerrilla war against another nation then things can get dirty and in my opinion the contration camp was a valid tactic used at the time by the British to suppress their oponnents. As we all know the lines between civilian and soilder can get blurred in this type of conflict.
Everyone always talks about WWI and WW2 - obviously the two biggest hits of the British forces - but even though the Boer war is still quite modern and not much before that, its never really celebrated, not even on special occasions
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This part of Africa had lions 😂 American mentality.
He does not mention the Australians who had troops there too.
He did@ 20:51 he mentions; "...reinforcements from the empire, including Canada, New zealand and Australia"
This comment has very little to do with the content of this video but it is coincidental that I have just seen it on the sixtieth anniversary of the death of my maternal grandfather who spent a year in South Africa, after the main battles were over, guarding lines of communication. He joined the old Volunteers in 1898 presumably for a little more variety in his life; his immediately elder brother was in the Coldstream Guards and saw much more action during this war. My grandfather stayed on in the Volunteers until reorganisation in 1908 created the Territorial Army, in which as a sergeant he went to France in 1914 and later earned a medal for bravery in the trenches saving the lives of comrades under heavy fire. He ended as a Company Sergeant-Major. Thus it is that some of us feel a kind of tenuous connection still to that war having had a greatly loved and well-remembered relative who was there. Yes, I have read histories of that war and know that we were vilified by many unfriendly countries, and indeed activists and politicians at home, but it was back in the days when fighting for one’s country was considered a virtue to be applauded.
You seem to have forgotten the Bhoer wars started because Britain was trying to end slavery.
The British were after the gold and diamonds of the Boer republics. Slavery had nothing to do with the war. Money makes the world go round and round.
Nonsense. They wanted Gold and Diamonds. British killed thousands of Black and White South Africans in concentration camps. Scorch earth tactics to starve people to death , what the British did was pure evil.
No haha they were started to get the gold and diamonds the boers discovered and needed a reason to do so. That lie got them there.
The war started because of diamond and gold discovery. It was never about slaves.
watch a movie called Breaker Morant.
Maybe I got out of bed in a grumpy mood - but I just couldn't watch a documentary about Boers narrated by someone who calls them "Bores". It continues to discombobulate me that so many USA commentators seem to disrespect so many places by never bothering to check how names & places are pronounced! It's as if they think anything/anyone outside of the USA is not important enough to bother. Back in the day one could cut them a bit of slack - but it's 2023 ffs. All that's involved is clicking a button.
Boers are NOT boring! It's kinda disrespectful to call them "Bores". The closest correction, without having heard the word spoken, is pronouncing "Bores" as "boo-ers".
Chill, Boar
settle down there you chubby coloured haired lib.
Way to simplistic....
Please react to the Rif war
I understood your point about the concept of a concentration camp and i think the basic difference was "Iintent" .Any war is wrong but that is the world we live in and Utopia does not exist. America and Britain bombed tens of thousands of civilians as did Germany .The Geneva Convention was there to clear the conscience of the elite who start the wars yet was of little use most of the time and the only reason one side thought it best to abide to some of the rules was in order that the same misconduct was not appled to them. Nuclear war will be the ultimate insanity which applies to all wars. Sometimes the choice given to people is fight or become slaves under a vicious dictator and one could assume that those who think it is wrong to fight in any war are quite willing to be slaves,that is why the future may well be very black i regret to say,because there will always be a Hitler,Stalin,or Putin.
Churchill used our tactics of the Anglo Boer War, in WW1! (Trench warfare)
Respect for this video! We were outnumbered 50 to 1. A war by Britain for greed. We had 50k farmers against an empire. By the end of the war, the British had sent 500,000 seasoned troops from all of their Colonies against a bunch of farmers that had no military training! The most embarrassing defeat for an Empire against a non militant force!
I'm pretty sure it was 300,000 and not all of them were engaged either. Besides the Boers were engaged in guerilla warfare. Anytime the British faced the Boers in direct combat especially through hand to hand combat the British easily won.
Check out the 1st Anglo Boer War. Respect to the Irish, that came to our aid!
pffft the Irish are a peasant race who have accomplished barely anything in history
The Dutch colony had been there from the 1600s. Mahatma Gandhi and his S African pacifist followers went into combat unarmed as stretcher bearers for the British. Gandhi wasn't a coward; he was like Pvt Desmond Doss. His active pacifism was the same in resisting British occupation in India. Young Winston Churchill was there too, being a total hero that made him famous enough to get elected to Parliament. The British committed the first war crime of the 20th century, against interned Boer families. The British Empire was hypocritical same as the Union in the US, imperialists. The Zulu warriors already cut the British a new a-hole in 1879 as the Sioux had done to the US in 1876. I have no sympathy for the British before 1917. The Kaiser wanted to fight for the Boers in sympathy but failed to do so.
So you would let the boers keep slavery because it was wide spread in South Africa and I would say that was a crime against humanity that had to be stopped where it could and the British had to enforce it in 1808.
I'm the opposite, I sympathised with Britain before the World Wars, except for the Boer wars, every Imperial conquest of Britain was based. So were the Americans displacing the indians, that was a great thing.
Stop making excuses for the British Connor.
Stop making excuses for Slavery!!!
What a dick, spot the racist!
These wars were conducted to end slavery. The British ended Slavery for the entire world. Expended blood for the cause.. what have you ever done mister virtue signaller?
@@DeusVult71we don’t need an excuse for it, it was necessary to build a nation. No apology needed.
@@DeusVult71Bro for real Boers acting like victims is hilarious 😂
@@Bullbotha Ok let's use your own logic it was necessary to build an empire so empire beats nation so we win 😂🤣 No apology needed 😜
The Boer wars and the World Wars are the only conflicts that the makes me ashamed to be British. Not because of the concentration camps or anything but the fact that the whole thing being nothing but a waste of lives.
At least Queen Elizabeth had a big old looted South African diamond on her crown while she was alive. So I guess the waste of life was all worthwhile for Britain.