That's in a completely seperate genre of entertainment! Fuck, five minutes is too long for a commercial, does that mean that every sixty dollar game needs to be between two to three minutes long? This game can be completed within one sitting, which is far too short of an experience.
The problem is they keep saying they wanted it to be like a movie...then fucking make it a movie or TV show for sucks sake, but don't make me pay 60 bucks for a 6 hours long movie than would cost anyone 20 bucks at theaters.
Shining Wolf The extended edition of any of the LOTR movies will run longer than the play time for the Order, and cost you $40 or less. They just had to go and make a movie.
Shining Wolf Throw The Order or Netflix and make it last 12 episodes in the first year and I be happy. I mean it as a movie or a series awesome. As a game NO!
There was actually a good minute-long rant in the original cut of this review about the *_obnoxious_* blur filter. For all the praise this game's visuals have accrued, I was severely underwhelmed. Flat fire textures that they cover up with overblown lensflare, ugly facial textures that they cover up with motion blur... Order: 1886 is *_not_* the Adonis we were led to believe.
***** I wish you hadn't edited that out. The game is getting way too much credit for its looks even though it's another brown game with a tight field of view that barely renders anything bigger than a telephone booth and can't even use all the pixels on the screen while doing it.
***** And the fucking letterboxing, man. While playing through it, I at least expected some nice visuals. But when introduced into an environment you are obviously meant to gaze at and admire, you can't even fucking SEE any of it because the letterboxing blocks out a measurable assload of the screen. Sure, you can still try to look at things. But a combination of the letterboxing plus a tiny field of view means you'll be drunkenly swinging your camera all over the place. I just give up and move the fuck on. It's like trying to play a game through the perpetual myopic squint of Clint Eastwood.
***** The game also has the same problem a huge amount of console and multiplat games have. They try so hard to compete with the PC exclusives that have more memory to work with that they build around the limited RAM by giving objects that the player is more likely to focus on a tremendous amount more texture detail and polygon count than others. While in theory, and to some extent in practice, this does allow the game to look better than it's hardware specs should allow; the overall disparity in quality causes the games to delve deep into an uncanny valley of sorts where something feels majorly wrong with the game's visuals. The best examples I've seen of this obnoxious design choice are from Black Ops 2 where the gun models look pretty slick overall yet some set pieces like piles of rubble and a notable coffee cup look like they were ripped out of an N64 game.
Here's a tip for aspiring game designers out there. Video games are...(wait for it)...not movies! They require *gasp* gameplay! Shocking yes I know, but this knowledge may catch on one day.
***** Games need to advertise their consoles, their engines, and so on. Beyond that it's mostly prestige. All gameplay does is draw an audience, and with a lot of time and risk involved, so most developers just use hype instead.
handsomebrick I must be showing my age, but I remember when games needed gameplay in order to actually...ya'know...be games. But then I've been gaming since the early 90s, so maybe I'm just not hip to this new wave of "thinking" that's going around in the dev scene theses days.
***** I believe you mean "to hipster that don't like games", cause there's plenty of women that can kick my ass in a wide range of games...it's just that they took the time and effort to learn how to play and get good. So since it requires time, effort and learning...things that hipsters are deathly allergic to...they will never be good at games. Just my 2 cents based on observations.
iirc Leigh Alexander actually made that "criticism" back in the day when "reviewing" something a few years ago on Kotaku or Polygon. Downfall of Gaming Journalism, GamerGate, yadda yadda yadda.
The Order is basically showing the mindset of modern game developers now. They don't care about making fun or interesting gameplay, they have a story they want to tell and if players get any sort of freedom, it will hinder their brilliant storytelling skills. QTEs are a plague on gaming and something that are tossed into cut scenes to give us a false sense of interactivity. Makes me wonder why these folks bother making games and just don't go make movies, probably because they'd suck at being film makers. Just look at David Cage.
Katie Baily it wouldn't even be as bad if they genuinely had a story to tell, but most video game stories are generic tripe that would only be shown on the Syfy Channel (or worse) if they were movies.
I have to agree with Razorfist on one matter: (in epic action trailer voice) "In a world filled with violent rebellion, gun-toting fanatics armed with tesla-powered electric cannons and flesh-eating werewolves of the night, the greatest evil humanity can face... will come... I the form... of an old English white guy... 'The Rich Old White Guy is Evil: Part XXXXXVIII' Out until the Games Industry gets Originality Again - i.e Never. Rated Overused Bullshit.
LanternBox Why would he watch a 1.5 hour movie when he could be interacting with one for 5-8 hours? I am always baffled by people who thinks this game shouldnt exist. The narrowmindedness rivals racism.
The more I see and hear of The Order: 1886 the more I'm convinced that it's a tech demo that came out two years too late. When the best things you've got to offer are pretty graphics and voice acting you know this thing fell off the AAA budgeting bandwagon while it was driving around the edge of a cliff and managed to hit every jagged outcropping on its way down.
Agreed. I rented it on Redbox and for the money I spent it was worth it. The graphics really are amazing, but it's not anywhere near worth 60 buck, let alone 40. At most it should be a 20-30 dollar title.
Player: SHUT THAT BLOODY QUICKTIME OFF! Developer: Told you, sir. Player: Have you in fact got any gameplay here at all? Developer: Yes, sir. Player: Really? ........ Developer: No. Not really, sir. Player: You haven't. Developer: No sir. Not a scrap. I was deliberately wasting your time, sir. Player: Well, I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to shoot you. Developer: Right-Oh, sir. *_BANG_* Player: What a *senseless* waste of human life...
CamoAssassin00 Yeah don't get a Wii U AND don't pay your house bills for at least two months, that should get you a PC that's even half worth a damn by the time you actually buy it.....since by then you'll need to sell your car to then upgrade it just to play the newest triple A titles. JCaesar Apparently "normal" for PC Gamers means having a money tree right in their damn lawn.
JCaesar "Neckbeard Virgins" nothing. If anything when I hear the elitist attitude of the "PC Master Race" all I can hear are those snooty over privilege high society rich kids who have just everything given to them on a silver spoon, even sex. And no it isn't cheap to just build a gamer PC yourself, maybe it is in whatever universe you are living in (can I live there too?) but I live in Earth Prime where it costs a hundred just for a measly USB flash drive that is not only above 4 GB but is a trusted top of the line brand. And before you bring up online shopping, here in Earth Prime there's this dark evil force known as "plus shipping" which can force you to pay up to ninety dollars for a fifty dollar Figma figure through legit certified sites, to get cheaper is to go to less trustful sites where you can possibly lose your debit card number.
Tomi Golob They wouldn't know a good game if it bit them in the ass, they have been too conditioned with all the shitty "AAA" titles. I might be jaded a bit, but i've played amazing games since the Genesis and Snes that had more complexity, story and depth than anything released in the past 10 years.
Shit, they could've spent MORE time developing the goddamn STORY! If "story" was so important to them, why in bloody hell did they stop a few hours in? Continue it! Oh, but I guess they'd rather not because they suckered people into buying it at $60 only for people to discover it's part of a possible SERIES AND only a few hours long. I would've priced this bare-bones game at most $40.
In my opinion, if games like this and Evolve do well enough to warrant sequels or imitations, the industry is fucked. Short play time, lack of game modes, DLC and QTE out the wazoo.
I can't stand quick-time events. It doesn't add to the immersiveness, and it detracts from whatever cutscene is playing. They are a big reason why I gave up on the God Of War series. Just give me a fucking normal cutscene dammit!
Maxiga That game had less of them, the campaigns were longer and Capcom didn't delay the game for a year to overhype it like The Order 1886. Yeah, RE6 had them, but at least it didn't have a button prompt to talk.
The only reason I liked them was seeing all the different death unique death scenes that played when you failed them, they were entertaining as hell back in the days of RE 4 and Dead Space. But now they just either freeze the game until you push the button, just straight up cut to a "Game Over Screen", play a poorly made death scene with terrible animation and sometimes even missing audio, or end up having absolutely no effect on the game anyway (*Cough* David Cage *Cough*), so even that has gone down the shitter.
Let's see, around this time into its lifecycle the PS1 had, Battlearena Toshinden, Rayman, Tomb Raider, Twisted Metal, Tekken, Gex, Resident Evil, Crash Bandicoot, Final Fantasy 7 & tactics. Metal Gear Solid. And much more. Point is. New IPs. New methods of play. Games you couldn't get on older consoles. There was a steady stream of contet and thus a point to buy the new console.
I really enjoy the Rageaholic and zero punctuation because I can re-watch their videos over and over. I think that's a pretty good indication of their enjoy-ability. Keep up the good work man.
...does this seriously have more QTEs than Ninja Blade?! Make no mistake, I *LOVE* Ninja Blade but it was made to be a celebration of the QTE! (It has a special QTE high score board!) but I never had to Press X to Speak!
I disagree with them being called quicktime events. I want them to be called Simon Says. I want it to be made forcefully obvious that they are the game Simon Says stolen and forced into their own game. And I want all of them to have to pay gigantic daddy warbux royalties to whoever owns Simon Says. I want them all to go bankrupt paying whoever that guy/girl is. Then they cant make any more bad games with Simon Says interrupting whatever the game is supposed to be.
The fact that this "game" perfectly incapsulates everything wrong with todays videogame brain dead developers, and the BS idea of "Make the game look pretty and it'll sell" tells me it doesn't deserve your money much less the money used to manufacture this trash.
557deadpool While I agree he's certainly one of the many developers/Directors to blame I think it's just about every developer and publisher that saw success from their PSone era onward is to blame. The fact that they can't move on from the "oooooo look how pretty" mindset and formula from the mid to late 90's, we'll continue to see products of this caliber be put on shelves. Well at least until everyone is bankrupt, I'm looking at you Capcom!
***** I used to want Capcom to be dead not too long ago, but they made Monster Hunter 4, so unless they sell that to Nintendo when they go under, I don't want them bankrupt just yet. XD
It seems as though david cage's desire to be taken seriously as an "interactive digital filmmaker" is spreading like cancer to the rest of the industry.
I started the game in the evening, played for a few hours, went to sleep, started the game the next day, and finished it within 45 minutes. I was pissed.
To be honest the cinematic presentation is that ONLY thing I can give this game credit for. Say what you want about the story, but the amount of detail to the graphics and sound is pretty phenomenal. The problem in a nutshell comes down to the developers caring too much about the film feel, than about the game feel. IDK why modern game devs get such hard-ons over that shit. If you want a movie, then make a damn movie, not a video game. Button prompts are SO pointless. What you think we have the attention span of fuckin' squirrels and can't be bothered to watch a cutscene without being forced to press specific buttons just for our characters to follow through with how the scene is supposed to go? What does it say about the state of gaming when you need to press X to countdown from fucking 3? Game is easy as tits too, and for being about werewolves, you don't fight many werewolves.
Well... That it! I'll wait for next gen or buy this gen until consoles are $200... And good to see your channel has been growing, mate! Keep up the good work!
When I first started watching this channel the level of snark, cynicism and hyperbole really annoyed me but the more I watched and the more detached I became the more I began enjoying your content. Whether I agreed with the points made within the videos or not, which I often did not, I still found myself smiling at their delivery, a delivery that originally annoyed me. Seriously entertaining.
Maxiga Yeah, he just has very clearly defined likes and dislikes. I think the snark is more of a humorous framing device more than anything and overtime I've grown to like it. It can be very effective.
Maxiga Yeah his Dishonoured review pissed me off at first but that was back when I was new to his channel. Now I just take that review in my stride. Besides he made some very valid points regardless of whether I agreed with them or not. Come to think about it, the video itself wasn't too bad in hindsight it's the discussion I had in the comments. There was this one fan of his that had a stick up his ass. I think his handle was UpNorthReviews or something, I don't think he ever didn't any video reviews of his own though. Anyway this guy had a clear superiority complex, couldn't stand the idea of someone liking a game he didn't and thought them beneath him.
Ryan Morton Ugh, that guy. Razörfist's fanbase is a double-edged sword. Few of them are rational, most of them are rude and have _intellectually superior_ mentality. Upnorthgamereviewer who doesn't make *reviews*, is the worst of the bunch.
The only time I'd consider qte viable is if you need to have the reflexes of a stereotypical martial arts master with chopsticks and a fly in order to pass them with prompt coming once a nanosecond and they follow an impressive set piece so your glued attention is rewarded visually at least
Looks at my ps4 collection.... nothing but ports. Games coming out that I want, Persona 5... also coming to the Ps3. Yeah this will definitely be the last time I buy a Sony console.
I have a few cross gen PS4 titles, one port and a few next gen only titles. As a whole we keep seeing publishers re release older titles. I think it's easier to do that than create something new...God I hope this trend ends soon. Remasters and their ilk shouldn't be for a game that just came out last year :/ This is a general console issue sadly right now. Neither one has a great amount of games yet.
Tomi if Nintendo put out a console on par to MS/Sony, it would be game over. Still the Wii U has more games I'm looking forward to. I can honestly say I spent more time on my 3ds family more than my Wii U, Ps4 and Vita combined tho.
Next time just wait for games to actually come out on a console before bying it. It's kind of similar to pre-ordering games, only more money is at risk of being wasted. Also if you wait for console to become somewhat enjoyable with some decent games, the price will usually drop significantly
Why would any one bother with The Order when there's Bloodborne coming just around the corner and Guilty Gear Xrd to keep you busy while waiting for it (if we're only talking about PS4 exclusives here)? Important rule of thumb when it comes to overhyped big budget AAA games: never preorder, don't buy it untill few good reviews (by people who aren't shills) are out so you know whether or not it's a video game or a subpar movie that forces you to mash buttons every now and then.
I would think after games like... Oh I dunno Aliens Colonial Marines, Mass Effect 3, Destiny, Drive Club, Killzone Shadow Fall, CoD Ghosts, The Evil Within, Battlefield 4, Halo: MCC, and The Oder 1886, people would stop being hype for new games or at least turn that hype-o-meter down a bit. Yeah Bloodborne may be as awesome as everyone wants it to be, I genuinely hope so even if the Souls games aren't my thing, but I think people's faith that it will be awesome because of... reasons is setting one's self up for disappointment.
I am not disappointed with this one, not even surprised at the reception to be honest. When a game developer starts calling gameplay something they "just can't get around" and starts spewing that generic "focus on the story and make an amazing experience" bullshit, you can see this is going to be a piece of garbage from a mile away. Not that there's something wrong with the story being the focus, but nothing indicated they could make a good one from their other games, their interviews, nothing. Anyway, great review as always.
I am sitting here eagerly anticipating Razorfist to speak on another QTE based game coming out soon: Until Dawn. Oh... and whatever POS David Cage makes next.
After hearing "Bark at the Moon" in the intro, I thought, "Man, it will be awesome if he uses 'Wolf' by Iced Earth in the outro." Well, we got Iced Earth, but with an entirely different song. Very strange...
Coming back to this review to refresh the topic of price per hours of content. Just finished Witcher 3... And holy shit, had to spent couple days playing nothing but that game... Now, it costs 60$, right? Same price Order 1886, right? :D I'll just let it soak in for a minute... Countless hours of gameplay, interesting sidequests that actually matter, open world exploration in beautiful jaw dropping zones, well defined characters, hard choices and morality that ain't the usual retarded Bioware: Good or Evil pool point whoring... And now! More hours of running through same campaign second or even third time to see all the choices unravel and affect the story differently... Now, having experienced that and looking back upon the excuses from Ready At Dawn: "We simply couldn't fit anything more! It's all we could do! This is how games are made for the same budget nowdays! Be glad we gave you that! It's simply IMPOSSIBLE to make the game longer!" Oh the sweet, sweet irony :3
Only game I can think of that did quick time events well was Wonderful 101. You get to do 'cool stuff' throughout the game of your own initiative and the QTEs are just for pulling off cool endings to the boss fights with reasonable interactivity thanks to the draw function. Then there's the QTE for the end of the last boss fight, one of the coolest and most hilarious things in gaming, one that actually uses both notorious gameplay features, QTEs and button mashing, to great effect. Too bad most other developers are lazy hacks who don't get why QTEs fail the majority of the time.
Hey Razor are you going to be checking out Bloodborne later this month? It's another spiritual successor in the souls series but now with more of an emphasis on aggressiveness and speed. Not saying it's blindingly fast but, I will say that the rapier will be my choice of weapon this time through.
A multiplatform game won't "save" a console. You can't be serious. It'd help if you elaborated with what you want to see on the PS4 instead of saying "it's bad lul".
Looks like the best PS4 exclusive, that being the waiting game, will hold us over until the real killer apps hit the console, which from recent news looks to be sometime in 2016. 2016, nearly THREE FUCKING YEARS after the launch of this console!
Terry Jones How so? I've had games to play since day 1. Only a few have been exclusives with a bulk being third party titles, but i've never not had something to mess around with.
Shining Wolf I had games to play on my Wii U since day 1, that doesn't render the nearly two full years it went through struggling a moot point. I recall the PS3 had to struggled for about three years before it really picked up steam.
Razorfist, would you consider making a video about our two front runners? We get it, they don't have games, but a nice lengthy video detailing your grievances with each would be great. Also, you bought your PS4 used, as did I, and you regret it. Do you think an Xbox One would have been a better choice? You could have played D4, free if you got it in January. It's a great title. Almost 2 and a half years in, a good shit kicking for both consoles in video form might be interesting for everyone.
Games like these are the reason I dislike the trend of developing games exclusively for consoles. "Press F to pay respects", because that is (in the opinion of developers) apparently the maximum mental capacity of the average console player. Good video!
God....damn it. I was hoping this game would be good. Loved the graphics and setting. If it doesn't even work as a visual novel then I'm out. I appreciate the review man, as always.
![Sean Rii, Karyon, Sharzkii - Taungule [My Love] (Official Music Video)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/eJoMuypbSzQ/mqdefault.jpg)
I'm not sure why everyone complained about the length, 5 hours is really long for a movie.
That's in a completely seperate genre of entertainment! Fuck, five minutes is too long for a commercial, does that mean that every sixty dollar game needs to be between two to three minutes long?
This game can be completed within one sitting, which is far too short of an experience.
Alucard Hellsing You missed the joke.
The problem is they keep saying they wanted it to be like a movie...then fucking make it a movie or TV show for sucks sake, but don't make me pay 60 bucks for a 6 hours long movie than would cost anyone 20 bucks at theaters.
Shining Wolf The extended edition of any of the LOTR movies will run longer than the play time for the Order, and cost you $40 or less. They just had to go and make a movie.
Shining Wolf
Throw The Order or Netflix and make it last 12 episodes in the first year and I be happy. I mean it as a movie or a series awesome. As a game NO!
2:47
Polnareff: "Monsieur Joestar, may I ask you a bizarre question?"
*Press Triangle to ask a bizarre question*
Everyone keeps praising on the visuals and graphics but the game is so dark and murky that l can't see shit
There was actually a good minute-long rant in the original cut of this review about the *_obnoxious_* blur filter. For all the praise this game's visuals have accrued, I was severely underwhelmed. Flat fire textures that they cover up with overblown lensflare, ugly facial textures that they cover up with motion blur... Order: 1886 is *_not_* the Adonis we were led to believe.
***** I wish you hadn't edited that out. The game is getting way too much credit for its looks even though it's another brown game with a tight field of view that barely renders anything bigger than a telephone booth and can't even use all the pixels on the screen while doing it.
***** And the fucking letterboxing, man. While playing through it, I at least expected some nice visuals. But when introduced into an environment you are obviously meant to gaze at and admire, you can't even fucking SEE any of it because the letterboxing blocks out a measurable assload of the screen. Sure, you can still try to look at things. But a combination of the letterboxing plus a tiny field of view means you'll be drunkenly swinging your camera all over the place. I just give up and move the fuck on.
It's like trying to play a game through the perpetual myopic squint of Clint Eastwood.
***** the fact the border graphics looks like it belongs to teef doesn't help it in that regards.
***** The game also has the same problem a huge amount of console and multiplat games have. They try so hard to compete with the PC exclusives that have more memory to work with that they build around the limited RAM by giving objects that the player is more likely to focus on a tremendous amount more texture detail and polygon count than others. While in theory, and to some extent in practice, this does allow the game to look better than it's hardware specs should allow; the overall disparity in quality causes the games to delve deep into an uncanny valley of sorts where something feels majorly wrong with the game's visuals.
The best examples I've seen of this obnoxious design choice are from Black Ops 2 where the gun models look pretty slick overall yet some set pieces like piles of rubble and a notable coffee cup look like they were ripped out of an N64 game.
Here's a tip for aspiring game designers out there. Video games are...(wait for it)...not movies! They require *gasp* gameplay! Shocking yes I know, but this knowledge may catch on one day.
***** Games need to advertise their consoles, their engines, and so on. Beyond that it's mostly prestige. All gameplay does is draw an audience, and with a lot of time and risk involved, so most developers just use hype instead.
handsomebrick I must be showing my age, but I remember when games needed gameplay in order to actually...ya'know...be games. But then I've been gaming since the early 90s, so maybe I'm just not hip to this new wave of "thinking" that's going around in the dev scene theses days.
***** I believe you mean "to hipster that don't like games", cause there's plenty of women that can kick my ass in a wide range of games...it's just that they took the time and effort to learn how to play and get good. So since it requires time, effort and learning...things that hipsters are deathly allergic to...they will never be good at games. Just my 2 cents based on observations.
***** Nah i'm with you there, i've played Sega Genesis games with longer length and more story than The Order.
Shining Wolf Yeah, but, I mean...at least it still looks better than Sonic The Hedgehog...kinda.
Finally someone addresses the 'old-rich-white-guy' villain trope :D
I don't want to be viewed as the bad guy in 30 years...
B-but gameplay is too videogamey
SilentTree Gameplay doesn't show off all the features and physics and such. And without that, are games even worth making?
Why would anyone want to play a video game when they can tap buttons to progress a shitty movie or a half-baked Netflix original series?
iirc Leigh Alexander actually made that "criticism" back in the day when "reviewing" something a few years ago on Kotaku or Polygon. Downfall of Gaming Journalism, GamerGate, yadda yadda yadda.
razor gave more praise to gone home then to the order 1886
The Order is basically showing the mindset of modern game developers now. They don't care about making fun or interesting gameplay, they have a story they want to tell and if players get any sort of freedom, it will hinder their brilliant storytelling skills. QTEs are a plague on gaming and something that are tossed into cut scenes to give us a false sense of interactivity. Makes me wonder why these folks bother making games and just don't go make movies, probably because they'd suck at being film makers. Just look at David Cage.
Katie Baily it wouldn't even be as bad if they genuinely had a story to tell, but most video game stories are generic tripe that would only be shown on the Syfy Channel (or worse) if they were movies.
Makes sense
i think the title should be "The Disorder 1886"
More like 'Cancelled Pre-Order 1886'.
trago1337 Monkey D. Luffy BWAAAAAAHAAAAAHAAAAAHAHAAA!!!!
More like, I should have sent this game back to 1886.
What about Order 66 for the ps4
I have a good one. The Order: 1886 Quick Time Events
Let's take everything Razorfist hates about games (minus steampunk) and put them into one game. Here's the result!
I have to agree with Razorfist on one matter: (in epic action trailer voice)
"In a world filled with violent rebellion, gun-toting fanatics armed with tesla-powered electric cannons and flesh-eating werewolves of the night, the greatest evil humanity can face... will come... I the form... of an old English white guy...
'The Rich Old White Guy is Evil: Part XXXXXVIII' Out until the Games Industry gets Originality Again - i.e Never. Rated Overused Bullshit.
As someone who values gameplay more than anything else, this game looks absolutely dreadful.
allotheabove123 AMEN to this comment i agree!
As a human being who contains a function brain, this game looks absolutely dreadful - fixed.
I value story and charecters the most and I loved this game lol.
XavierRaveZombiiee Go watch a movie, then.
LanternBox
Why would he watch a 1.5 hour movie when he could be interacting with one for 5-8 hours?
I am always baffled by people who thinks this game shouldnt exist. The narrowmindedness rivals racism.
Spoony's movie reviews are longer than The Order: 1886.
Spoony's movie reviews are longer than the Potsdam Summit.
***** So the hierarchy of length is: Spoony's film reviews > Potsdam Summit > The Order: 1886?
GammaWALLE
Spoony's Film Reviews > The average Ice Age > Potsdam Summit > An hour > A minute > The heartbeat of a caffeinated ferret > The Order: 1886
***** I've seen commercials run longer then The Order: 1886.
Also,
[cue the "senpai noticed me!" hype]
GammaWALLE I'd be inclined to think The Order: 1886 is about as racist as the floating city of Columbia.
The more I see and hear of The Order: 1886 the more I'm convinced that it's a tech demo that came out two years too late. When the best things you've got to offer are pretty graphics and voice acting you know this thing fell off the AAA budgeting bandwagon while it was driving around the edge of a cliff and managed to hit every jagged outcropping on its way down.
I can't wait to play this when it hits $5 in the bargain bin at GameStop
You can play it for free on youtube.
SUPERVANS
You sir have won the internet.
Agreed. I rented it on Redbox and for the money I spent it was worth it. The graphics really are amazing, but it's not anywhere near worth 60 buck, let alone 40. At most it should be a 20-30 dollar title.
Or you could get the same effect by watching a Let's Play.
SUPERVANS I want to frame this comment and response. That is how sick of a burn it is on The Order.
I salute you, unidentified RUclips user.
There's enough quick time events in The Order to make Heavy Rain look like Deus Ex...the original.
The opening of this video gave me a Vice City chub.
Love me some V-Rock.
Given the werewolves in this game, it was quite appropriate.
Hell yeah, I loved that game.
In fact, I'd much rather play Vice City over this. At least it'd take me longer to beat it.
It's official, Razorfist is a replacement for Viagra.
*looks at subscription list, sees new Razorfist vid, grabs leather jacket and shades*
Hell YES!
Player: SHUT THAT BLOODY QUICKTIME OFF!
Developer: Told you, sir.
Player: Have you in fact got any gameplay here at all?
Developer: Yes, sir.
Player: Really?
........
Developer: No. Not really, sir.
Player: You haven't.
Developer: No sir. Not a scrap. I was deliberately wasting your time, sir.
Player: Well, I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to shoot you.
Developer: Right-Oh, sir.
*_BANG_*
Player: What a *senseless* waste of human life...
When shit's got you down, nothing perks you up better than revisiting good old razorfist. :D
I wonder if Razor can sense when I'm bored.
Welp, I guess I can hold off on getting a new console until the 9th gen.
get a wiiu and a pc. wiiu for genuine exclusives that are good and a pc because (ick any number of hundreds of reasons)
ubadman1 Or you just save the money from the wiiU and buy a better PC.
CamoAssassin00 Yeah don't get a Wii U AND don't pay your house bills for at least two months, that should get you a PC that's even half worth a damn by the time you actually buy it.....since by then you'll need to sell your car to then upgrade it just to play the newest triple A titles.
JCaesar Apparently "normal" for PC Gamers means having a money tree right in their damn lawn.
CamoAssassin00 The only people who can't enjoy Nintendo's exclusives have no soul.
JCaesar "Neckbeard Virgins" nothing. If anything when I hear the elitist attitude of the "PC Master Race" all I can hear are those snooty over privilege high society rich kids who have just everything given to them on a silver spoon, even sex.
And no it isn't cheap to just build a gamer PC yourself, maybe it is in whatever universe you are living in (can I live there too?) but I live in Earth Prime where it costs a hundred just for a measly USB flash drive that is not only above 4 GB but is a trusted top of the line brand. And before you bring up online shopping, here in Earth Prime there's this dark evil force known as "plus shipping" which can force you to pay up to ninety dollars for a fifty dollar Figma figure through legit certified sites, to get cheaper is to go to less trustful sites where you can possibly lose your debit card number.
I would not be surprise if the internet tries to revised the history of this "game" being "underrated."
"Wow, we shoulda pulled this cinematic QTE shit with FF: The Spirits Within." - Square
FF:TSW Remastered, coming to PS4 in 2016.
Aside from MGS4, The Order: 1886 was also a pretty movie to watch. I just wish there were more supernatural elements aside from werewolves...
But but, there was the one vampire lol
Tomi Golob They wouldn't know a good game if it bit them in the ass, they have been too conditioned with all the shitty "AAA" titles. I might be jaded a bit, but i've played amazing games since the Genesis and Snes that had more complexity, story and depth than anything released in the past 10 years.
Tomi Golob Nah there is one vampire, they show it to you, but don't explain it very well. It's all a cluster fuck of ideas that were poorly executed.
Shit, they could've spent MORE time developing the goddamn STORY! If "story" was so important to them, why in bloody hell did they stop a few hours in? Continue it! Oh, but I guess they'd rather not because they suckered people into buying it at $60 only for people to discover it's part of a possible SERIES AND only a few hours long.
I would've priced this bare-bones game at most $40.
In my opinion, if games like this and Evolve do well enough to warrant sequels or imitations, the industry is fucked. Short play time, lack of game modes, DLC and QTE out the wazoo.
These thumbnails are pure comedy gold. And as always, great video, Razor.
I can't stand quick-time events. It doesn't add to the immersiveness, and it detracts from whatever cutscene is playing. They are a big reason why I gave up on the God Of War series. Just give me a fucking normal cutscene dammit!
Problem is the cut scenes are so long that when a QTE showed up a died 99% of the time , because I sat the controller down.
BawesomeBurf Just don't play Resident Evil 6. That game is full of QTE's, and most of them are _unfair_...
Maxiga
That game had less of them, the campaigns were longer and Capcom didn't delay the game for a year to overhype it like The Order 1886. Yeah, RE6 had them, but at least it didn't have a button prompt to talk.
The only reason I liked them was seeing all the different death unique death scenes that played when you failed them, they were entertaining as hell back in the days of RE 4 and Dead Space.
But now they just either freeze the game until you push the button, just straight up cut to a "Game Over Screen", play a poorly made death scene with terrible animation and sometimes even missing audio, or end up having absolutely no effect on the game anyway (*Cough* David Cage *Cough*), so even that has gone down the shitter.
animeasskicker But that game still gets a dishonorable mention of one of the worst, badly implemented QTE's you'll ever see.
Let's see, around this time into its lifecycle the PS1 had, Battlearena Toshinden, Rayman, Tomb Raider, Twisted Metal, Tekken, Gex, Resident Evil, Crash Bandicoot, Final Fantasy 7 & tactics. Metal Gear Solid. And much more.
Point is. New IPs. New methods of play. Games you couldn't get on older consoles.
There was a steady stream of contet and thus a point to buy the new console.
I swear, we must be long lost relatives - first time I heard your narrative, I thought I was hearing myself. Good shit. Subscribed.
been waiting for this, great vid dude
I really enjoy the Rageaholic and zero punctuation because I can re-watch their videos over and over. I think that's a pretty good indication of their enjoy-ability. Keep up the good work man.
...does this seriously have more QTEs than Ninja Blade?!
Make no mistake, I *LOVE* Ninja Blade but it was made to be a celebration of the QTE! (It has a special QTE high score board!) but I never had to Press X to Speak!
I'm actually playing Ninja Blade, at this very moment!
I nearly choked on my food when you said "Lollipop guild of a game"
I disagree with them being called quicktime events. I want them to be called Simon Says. I want it to be made forcefully obvious that they are the game Simon Says stolen and forced into their own game. And I want all of them to have to pay gigantic daddy warbux royalties to whoever owns Simon Says. I want them all to go bankrupt paying whoever that guy/girl is.
Then they cant make any more bad games with Simon Says interrupting whatever the game is supposed to be.
Laughed my ass off at this video! Love your stuff man!
yet another reason why I have yet to buy a PS4 or Xbone.
About 00:59
Dat revolver clipping.
Good job, next gen.
Thanks for introducing me to Iced Earth
Love how you end your videos. SO badass
Too short for a game, too long for a movie.. the best thing to do is wait for the price to drop then give it a shot.
***** If it's meant to be a movie then the best thing to do is just watch it on youtube for free.
The fact that this "game" perfectly incapsulates everything wrong with todays videogame brain dead developers, and the BS idea of "Make the game look pretty and it'll sell" tells me it doesn't deserve your money much less the money used to manufacture this trash.
557deadpool While I agree he's certainly one of the many developers/Directors to blame I think it's just about every developer and publisher that saw success from their PSone era onward is to blame. The fact that they can't move on from the "oooooo look how pretty" mindset and formula from the mid to late 90's, we'll continue to see products of this caliber be put on shelves. Well at least until everyone is bankrupt, I'm looking at you Capcom!
***** I used to want Capcom to be dead not too long ago, but they made Monster Hunter 4, so unless they sell that to Nintendo when they go under, I don't want them bankrupt just yet. XD
KikBlava I have a love/hate relationship with them as well XD Resident Evil anyone? :p
It seems as though david cage's desire to be taken seriously as an "interactive digital filmmaker" is spreading like cancer to the rest of the industry.
I was going to get a Xbone or a watchstation4, but then I remembered, there is nothing I want to to play on either system.
This is why I sold my PS4.
Perfect music for your opening :D
I started the game in the evening, played for a few hours, went to sleep, started the game the next day, and finished it within 45 minutes. I was pissed.
Looking forward to your imput when Sega inevitably put's out Virtua QuickTime Event
By the way Razorfist, congratulations on passing 30k subs!
the more i watch you, the more i am convinced you mastered the skill of breathing through your ears.
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure in a Razorfist video. I have now seen everything.
Never thought I would see a game that would rival Metal Gear Solid 4 in terms of interactive movie.
To be honest the cinematic presentation is that ONLY thing I can give this game credit for. Say what you want about the story, but the amount of detail to the graphics and sound is pretty phenomenal. The problem in a nutshell comes down to the developers caring too much about the film feel, than about the game feel. IDK why modern game devs get such hard-ons over that shit.
If you want a movie, then make a damn movie, not a video game. Button prompts are SO pointless. What you think we have the attention span of fuckin' squirrels and can't be bothered to watch a cutscene without being forced to press specific buttons just for our characters to follow through with how the scene is supposed to go? What does it say about the state of gaming when you need to press X to countdown from fucking 3? Game is easy as tits too, and for being about werewolves, you don't fight many werewolves.
Wow...hard to believe he somehow made a more interactive and lengthy experience than the game he reviewed...
HEY! I'll have you now Razerfist poses in Jojo are anatomically accurate!
Well... That it!
I'll wait for next gen or buy this gen until consoles are $200...
And good to see your channel has been growing, mate! Keep up the good work!
I was hoping you were going to do this one.
Press X to speak. Aaaaawesome. It's like they took advice from Brianna W000!
When I first started watching this channel the level of snark, cynicism and hyperbole really annoyed me but the more I watched and the more detached I became the more I began enjoying your content. Whether I agreed with the points made within the videos or not, which I often did not, I still found myself smiling at their delivery, a delivery that originally annoyed me. Seriously entertaining.
Ryan Morton Tell me about it. At first I thought he hates everything, but when you watch more his content, he's complete opposite.
Maxiga Yeah, he just has very clearly defined likes and dislikes. I think the snark is more of a humorous framing device more than anything and overtime I've grown to like it. It can be very effective.
Ryan Morton Same here, and it taught me not to take his criticism on games I like too seriously, especially with his Dishonored review.
Maxiga Yeah his Dishonoured review pissed me off at first but that was back when I was new to his channel. Now I just take that review in my stride. Besides he made some very valid points regardless of whether I agreed with them or not. Come to think about it, the video itself wasn't too bad in hindsight it's the discussion I had in the comments. There was this one fan of his that had a stick up his ass. I think his handle was UpNorthReviews or something, I don't think he ever didn't any video reviews of his own though. Anyway this guy had a clear superiority complex, couldn't stand the idea of someone liking a game he didn't and thought them beneath him.
Ryan Morton Ugh, that guy. Razörfist's fanbase is a double-edged sword. Few of them are rational, most of them are rude and have _intellectually superior_ mentality.
Upnorthgamereviewer who doesn't make *reviews*, is the worst of the bunch.
This was... surprisingly calm...
Sums up every problem I had with this game
More like insert disc to disappoint...
And hey! I *am* waiting for No Man's Sky, too! :D
The only time I'd consider qte viable is if you need to have the reflexes of a stereotypical martial arts master with chopsticks and a fly in order to pass them with prompt coming once a nanosecond and they follow an impressive set piece so your glued attention is rewarded visually at least
Looks at my ps4 collection.... nothing but ports. Games coming out that I want, Persona 5... also coming to the Ps3. Yeah this will definitely be the last time I buy a Sony console.
I have a few cross gen PS4 titles, one port and a few next gen only titles. As a whole we keep seeing publishers re release older titles. I think it's easier to do that than create something new...God I hope this trend ends soon. Remasters and their ilk shouldn't be for a game that just came out last year :/ This is a general console issue sadly right now. Neither one has a great amount of games yet.
Tomi if Nintendo put out a console on par to MS/Sony, it would be game over. Still the Wii U has more games I'm looking forward to. I can honestly say I spent more time on my 3ds family more than my Wii U, Ps4 and Vita combined tho.
I accidentally removed a comment. My bad.
Next time just wait for games to actually come out on a console before bying it. It's kind of similar to pre-ordering games, only more money is at risk of being wasted. Also if you wait for console to become somewhat enjoyable with some decent games, the price will usually drop significantly
Heh. Bloodborne is coming.
Great review as always, just wondering, any idea what your next review will be on?
remind me of an old sega CD "full motion video" "game", it even have haft the screen missing, because "cinematic"
Why would any one bother with The Order when there's Bloodborne coming just around the corner and Guilty Gear Xrd to keep you busy while waiting for it (if we're only talking about PS4 exclusives here)? Important rule of thumb when it comes to overhyped big budget AAA games: never preorder, don't buy it untill few good reviews (by people who aren't shills) are out so you know whether or not it's a video game or a subpar movie that forces you to mash buttons every now and then.
Xrd is on Ps3.
Tomi Golob Casual? They all but removed shields in a game where enemies have two strategies: Zerg rush and Gang rape.
lipailong2 every attack you do regenerate your health. take that as you please.
Sckarton Healing by attacking enemies > Healing by drinking estus that heals you faster than your health drops if you're back stabbed.
I would think after games like... Oh I dunno Aliens Colonial Marines, Mass Effect 3, Destiny, Drive Club, Killzone Shadow Fall, CoD Ghosts, The Evil Within, Battlefield 4, Halo: MCC, and The Oder 1886, people would stop being hype for new games or at least turn that hype-o-meter down a bit.
Yeah Bloodborne may be as awesome as everyone wants it to be, I genuinely hope so even if the Souls games aren't my thing, but I think people's faith that it will be awesome because of... reasons is setting one's self up for disappointment.
Now i'm curious about your thoughts on Game of Thrones...
Bark at the moon fucking perfect.
Fantastic!!
I am not disappointed with this one, not even surprised at the reception to be honest. When a game developer starts calling gameplay something they "just can't get around" and starts spewing that generic "focus on the story and make an amazing experience" bullshit, you can see this is going to be a piece of garbage from a mile away.
Not that there's something wrong with the story being the focus, but nothing indicated they could make a good one from their other games, their interviews, nothing.
Anyway, great review as always.
I guess Terren couldn't resist using Iced Earth's "The Order" on the closing credits eh? lol
The pun was far too tempting.
>muh cinematic experience
I am sitting here eagerly anticipating Razorfist to speak on another QTE based game coming out soon: Until Dawn. Oh... and whatever POS David Cage makes next.
Kingdom Under Fire 2! Can't wait until it releases. I'll be playing it on PC, though. Have not a single reason to buy a console.
After hearing "Bark at the Moon" in the intro, I thought, "Man, it will be awesome if he uses 'Wolf' by Iced Earth in the outro." Well, we got Iced Earth, but with an entirely different song. Very strange...
Coming back to this review to refresh the topic of price per hours of content.
Just finished Witcher 3... And holy shit, had to spent couple days playing nothing but that game...
Now, it costs 60$, right? Same price Order 1886, right? :D
I'll just let it soak in for a minute...
Countless hours of gameplay, interesting sidequests that actually matter, open world exploration in beautiful jaw dropping zones, well defined characters, hard choices and morality that ain't the usual retarded Bioware: Good or Evil pool point whoring...
And now! More hours of running through same campaign second or even third time to see all the choices unravel and affect the story differently...
Now, having experienced that and looking back upon the excuses from Ready At Dawn: "We simply couldn't fit anything more! It's all we could do! This is how games are made for the same budget nowdays! Be glad we gave you that! It's simply IMPOSSIBLE to make the game longer!"
Oh the sweet, sweet irony :3
Only game I can think of that did quick time events well was Wonderful 101. You get to do 'cool stuff' throughout the game of your own initiative and the QTEs are just for pulling off cool endings to the boss fights with reasonable interactivity thanks to the draw function. Then there's the QTE for the end of the last boss fight, one of the coolest and most hilarious things in gaming, one that actually uses both notorious gameplay features, QTEs and button mashing, to great effect.
Too bad most other developers are lazy hacks who don't get why QTEs fail the majority of the time.
what's the music at the beginning?
Ah, Kingdom Under Fire II; it may finally come out this year, but who knows at this point.
I'm drinking Rageahol tonight!
Hey Razor are you going to be checking out Bloodborne later this month? It's another spiritual successor in the souls series but now with more of an emphasis on aggressiveness and speed. Not saying it's blindingly fast but, I will say that the rapier will be my choice of weapon this time through.
Just curious if you were gonna review Dying Light? :)
Press "Triangle" to God Fucking Speed
'Gears of Yore'. That's good.
Fallout 4 is what's going to pull this console out of it's own shit.
When was the last time Multiplats saved a platform?
A multiplatform game won't "save" a console. You can't be serious. It'd help if you elaborated with what you want to see on the PS4 instead of saying "it's bad lul".
Looks like the best PS4 exclusive, that being the waiting game, will hold us over until the real killer apps hit the console, which from recent news looks to be sometime in 2016. 2016, nearly THREE FUCKING YEARS after the launch of this console!
The WaitSation 4, where greatness awaits, and waits... annnnd waits.
And everyone who bought a PS3 at launch is getting serious deja vu right now....
Are you completely forgetting about inFamous: Second Son?
Terry Jones How so? I've had games to play since day 1. Only a few have been exclusives with a bulk being third party titles, but i've never not had something to mess around with.
Shining Wolf I had games to play on my Wii U since day 1, that doesn't render the nearly two full years it went through struggling a moot point.
I recall the PS3 had to struggled for about three years before it really picked up steam.
"BLACK SIGHT MODE"
(FOOTAGE OF STEVIE WONDER)
razorfist, you are a genius
HELL YEAH BARK AT THE MOON
Razorfist, would you consider making a video about our two front runners? We get it, they don't have games, but a nice lengthy video detailing your grievances with each would be great. Also, you bought your PS4 used, as did I, and you regret it. Do you think an Xbox One would have been a better choice? You could have played D4, free if you got it in January. It's a great title. Almost 2 and a half years in, a good shit kicking for both consoles in video form might be interesting for everyone.
I thought this game was just going to be a fancy new version of Nightmare Creatures...but nope. How disappointing.
Games like these are the reason I dislike the trend of developing games exclusively for consoles. "Press F to pay respects", because that is (in the opinion of developers) apparently the maximum mental capacity of the average console player.
Good video!
Finaly man, what took u so long?
Man i remember 2001, they would put out awesome games like Max Payne those were the shit.
SHIT'S PRETTY YO! :D
No seriously fuck this game, this is the slow painful death of gameplay interaction on any Playstation console. :P
u getting Bloodborne when it comes out dude? I'd like to hear your opinion on that
Are you going to do a vid on dying light
So, this is basically Sony's Ryse: Son of Rome.
God....damn it. I was hoping this game would be good. Loved the graphics and setting. If it doesn't even work as a visual novel then I'm out.
I appreciate the review man, as always.
Yeah it is a monument to this gaming generation....... of the gravestone variety.
Hey RazorFist, I know your not a big fan of the series, but since you got a ps4, do you think you'll do a review on Bloodborne?