Comparison Review: 2022 JCW Mini Cooper Convertible vs 2021 Mazda MX-5 / Drop Top Sports Cars
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There are two ways to make a summer sports car. There’s the Mini way which is to take a two door coupe and chop the roof off. Or there’s the Mazda way which is to start from the ground up with a convertible design and then add the hard top later on. But of the two, which way is better?
Between the two, the 2022 Mini JCW Cooper has the more powerful engine. It is a 2.0L turbocharged 4-cylinder that produces 228 hp and 235 lb-ft of torque (170 kW & 319 Nm). The 2021 Mazda MX5 Miata is powered by a 2.0L naturally aspirated 4-cylinder that has to make due with 181 hp and 151 lb-ft of torque (135 kW & 205 Nm). The Mini has low-end torque from the turbocharged engine while the Miata 2021 likes to be revved because that’s where all the power is.
Interestingly, the Mazda MX-5 2021 has a faster 0-100 km/h time. It can complete the sprint in just under 6 seconds while the 2022 Mini JCW Convertible takes just over 6 seconds. This is partially down to the RWD vs FWD layout of the cars but mainly due to the weight of both cars. The Mazda MX-5 Miata tips the scales at 1,066 kg (2,350 lbs) with the 6-speed manual transmission while the Mini Convertible weighs 1,415 kg (3,119 lbs). But over a long distance - say a quarter mile - the Mini JCW 2022 would begin to catch up and overtake the Mazda.
The 2021 Mazda MX-5 GS-P starts at $37,200 CAD ($30,290 USD) and this demo vehicle is equipped with the Sport Package which adds the Brembo brakes, black alloy wheels, and Recaro seats. The as tested price is $43,650 CAD ($35,255 USD). Ironically, the 2022 Mini John Cooper Works Convertible has a starting price of where this MX5 Miata ends; $43,640 CAD ($38,900 USD). But this is not a standard JCW Mini 2022 and as such it has quite a few options on it. The total as tested price is $56,530 CAD ($45,650 USD).
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0:00 Intro - Don't forget to Subscribe!
1:11 Performance - Which one drives better?
5:48 Comfort - Which one is more practical?
10:01 Odds and Ends - How much are they?
12:41 Conclusion - Which one would I pick? 
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You know which one I'd pick, but which would you like to drive around in? The MX-5 Miata or the JCW Cooper?
Miata 😅
Absolutely the mx5!
The Mazda Miata MX5 is the ultimate shift it yourself Roadster fun to drive machine.
I have the MX5 RF. ❤️ IT
Mazda MX 5😍🍷
Absolutely MX - 5. I like its design more and more and I didn't drive a more fun car, it's excellent.
I have a 2020 Mx-5 soul red, flying miata active exhaust, Fm stage 2 sways. Okay I know it is dumb (it's only a car right?) but I'm in love with that car. Just absolutely pure fun. You can't drive this car without smiling. There's a reason everyone loves this car. If you are driver a real driver, this car is like an aphrodisiac. It's that good.
How loud is the active exhaust? What make is it?
Do sways make a big difference with & without coil overs?
@@MadelnMachines sways and a proper alignment made a huge difference, it’s flat and aggressively digs into the corner. 2020 RF has a pretty good factory Bilstiens set up. Have not been in a hurry to change that. I also added the frame reinforcement from Paco/FM over kill probably for me but racers with sticky tires and sways have actually damaged the ND frame.
@@MadelnMachines sways we’re HUGE… the Bilstiens on the 2020 RF are not bad, suggest you do some poking around on the Flyin Miata website and you tube.
AhuraMazda = Lord of Wisdom
mazda mx 5 RF is better than mini cooper
Better Gokart Feeling
Better Fun Driving
And it's part of Toyota the real best reliability
Toyota/Lexus/Yamaha/Subaru/Mazda/Daihatsu Are The Real Best
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Western's are too exaggerating overpriced common average
Typical thus not a complete multiracial not multilingual never been living around the world all alone since childhood are the same never evolved dumbs apes stuck inside your tiny boxes your entire life.
Indonesia, leader of G20 (Great 20 nations worldwide) 2022 and ASEAN, Association of Southeast Asia's Nations.
Real size of present day Indonesia is Huge as Russia, The Real Global Superpower, World's Richest Natural Resources even only Our Oil and Gas are much more than whole Middle East.
World Map is Inaccurate since Mercator projection 1569.
Indonesia before Western world came originally covering present day 78 years old Republic of Indonesia, Malaysia (Man on Ringgit Malaysia is one of our Forefathers, One of Kings of Our Minangkabau West Sumatra Indonesia settled Negeri Sembilan Kingdom Malaysia), Singapore (also the Man on Singaporean Dollar, and Singaporean National Anthem Writer and Composer from my beloved belated Mother's birth place Bukittinggi West Sumatra), Brunei, The Philippines (Mindanao and Manila City were founded by our Forefathers Kings of Minangkabau Sumatra Indonesia before Spaniards came), South Thailand, Vietnam, Australia and Madagascar Africa.
I’ve owned two Miatas, a 1999 10AE and 2011 PRHT, and two MINIs, an ‘03 MCS and my current ‘22 JCW Convertible. I owned the 99 and 03 at the same time. Forcing a choice between the two can only be done based on how each meets your personal needs since each is fantastic and everyone sees each as a fit to their needs differently. I always found the Miatas a bit uncomfortable on long drives. Yet, many people travel the country in them. But, give me a Miata on a windy road any day. Brilliant. The MINIs are more comfortable for me and I love having the extra space in a smaller car. Give me the MINI for power, tech and comfort anytime. Maybe the answer is, get one of each :-)
Pretty much my thoughts haha. But getting both sounds like an expensive proposition, lol.
Thanks for watching!
Miata for the win in my opinion!
My daily driver is a 2017 Mx5 ND RF Club with Michelin Pilot Sports one size up from stock. While it can be a challenge to get my 75 year old bones into it, I absolutely love this car! So much fun and cheap on gas. The last car I owned that was this much fun was a 1958 Alfa Giulietta roadster with a 0-60 of about 16 seconds and it was always in the shop.
The Consumer Reports Buying Guide that I have on hand (2020) gives the Mx5 a rating 79, and the Mini a rating of 70. Historically the Mx5 also has much better reliability than the Mini.
Don't want to rub this in, but I have owned a few British cars, and... well lets just say their shop time was about the same as my Italian cars.
this isnt real anymore, bmw/mini since the years 2016 is now in the top 5 most reliable brand for the last 6 years. the new minis are extremly reliable. (the older ones were horrible though)
Both the MX-5 and the MINI are fantastic! The MX-5 is one of the best and most beautifully designed sports car and I'm including Ferraris and Porches. However, I bought a 2 door 2022 MINI Cooper S hardtop because I need back seats and the storage room! In the hard top, there is plenty of leg room in the back and it's really easy to get in and out. It has 186 hp so it's fast enough and the handling is so tight, that is one of the most fun drives I ever experienced. I love the design of the MX-5 and if I could afford 2 cars I'd get them both. But the MINI is also the faster car as it often wins the IMSA TC Touring car races and one the constructors championship 2 years in a row. At 90% stock the John Cooper Works MINI regularly beats the MX-5 (The JCW even beat a Porsche Cayman once) on the race track. Not that I'd race against a Miata but I know I can if I wanted to. ;-)
Good points. Wondering if the JCW is worth the extra $ over the S.
Miata is always the answer ✌🏾
The Miata is the only true sports car left. Very light, nimble and no gimmicks. Everything else on the market is heavy, compensating with bigger engines to make more power, and loaded with bloatware (tech gimmicks)... a shadow of fun cars of yesteryear.
I agree, although I’d say as of 2023, the Miata value proposition has really declined, imagine an RF Club going for $40k, then think of all the extra hardware and tech JCW includes for the same-ish price.
@@josephvincello8962 Don't get the RF; (unless you really just want your miata to be your only car and you commute on the highway) it's an absurdly expensive option for this car, and it's a compromise of the entire premise of a 2-seater convertible. MSRP on a soft top club is 32-33kish, 35k out the door for a new, reliable, easy-to maintain sports car is about as good as you're going to get. What else are you comparing it to in the same space that the value proposition doesn't look favorable?
delusional fool
Miata all the way!
MX-5 for sure, no contest.
Seriously, how is this even a question. The answer is very clear.
I own and prefer the MX-5. I wanted a true roadster and the maximum fun they provide.
I would also pick the MX-5 . Not to mention the much better longterm reliability of the Mazda mark .
Both are excellent. The Mini has more character. The Miata has excellent driving dynamic and way better reliability and cost of ownership in the long run.
My main mode of transport is a brompton folding bike. My back up is a 2018 mx-5 rf. I love them both. I’m a lucky man.
Which one do you use more often?
@@MGReviewsBlog the car! Over the last 6 years, i did more miles on my bike, but since I’ve had the mx-5…😍
The short chassis FWD Mini is super fun. But then so is the MX5 Miata RWD. Life is DEFINITELY TOO SHORT TO DRIVE BORING CARS! And BTW the review is nice and practical. Thanks for that little focus on the useable boot space and the legroom. This will help us Tall drivers. My 9 year old Cooper S Hardtop (R56) is actually a perfect car for two persons plus luggage for all sorts of road trips….
Thanks for watching!
MIATA is always the answer!
Cool review. I’ve always been curious about this matchup
Thanks! Now you don't have to wonder any more how they stack up haha
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Awesome, thank you!
2016 MX 5 ND with 4 pots and Recaro`s. Also have a RX 7 FC Turbo and a CX 3 AWD for winter ... BTW, my German spec MX5 is doing 230 kph+ , would give the Mini also a hard time in straight lines. And I experienced here in Germany with 30 + years of MX 5 - experience, that most cars give up against a MX 5 after a very short fight... What is hard work in almost every other car is childs play in any MX 5 especially the 1., 2. and 4. gen`s.
Fantastic review. MX5 all day long!!!
I own the very same one only mine is finished in the rare Jet Black Mica (drop-dead gorgeous!). Not that the Black Mica is rare, but combined with the Sports Package, well good luck finding one!
As you mentioned, the Sport Package will cost you an additional $4400 (Canadian) but if you price the BBS wheels ($7096.17), Brembo brakes ($5650), Recaro seats ($5551.13) and the Bilstein suspension ($1100.43) individually, that additional $4400 is a no brainer!
I know those prices sounds ridiculous so please don't take my word for it, price them individually yourself and then add the 13% tax (Canada). I know that no one in their right mind would buy each piece individually, but it sure puts things into perspective doesn't it!
In any event, my wife and I narrowed our search down to the either the Mini or the MX5 so your review is very fitting. After test driving both, the MX5 came out on top by a long shot!
We are not rich by any means so almost $50k a very significant amount of money to spend on a summer toy "BUT", no regrets whatsoever! Our beautiful MX5 lives mostly in the garage. We take it out on sunny days, and only if the pavement is bone dry. So far, it's been driven 12,311 kilometers (7648 miles) and I can assure you that each one of those miles has put a HUGE smile on our face!
I highly, HIGHLY recommend the MX5 with the Sport Package. It's pricey but when compared to "ANY" other new sports car, you won't find a better bargain, PERIOD! Take it from a man who actually spent his hard earned dollar to buy one. You won't be sorry man, I promise!
Now obviously, this is not our daily driver. Mine is a Ram Sport (love it) and my wife drives a Malibu.
Initially, we bought a new 2019 Can Am Spyder F3 Limited however we sold it last year after we bought the MX5. After covid, I actually sold it for the very same amount that I paid for it "brand new" tax in. Albeit, we only drove it 3900 kilometers.
After riding 2 wheels for over 40 years, I was very leery about switching over to 3 wheels, but that was the only way that my wife felt safe enough to ride with me. I gotta say the F3 limited was a blast to ride. It's a completely different animal when compared to any motorcycle, but in a good way. I would go so far as to say that I should 'of bought one a long time ago. It really is THAT good!
If I could afford it, I would keep both the Spyder and the MX5 but as they say, you could only drive one toy at a time. Again, the MX5 wins hands down!
So kudos to you my friend for posting yet another FANTASTIC review. You're not afraid to call a spade a spade. You say it as it is, like it or not, no B.S. I also really enjoy your comic relief bud. Hat's off to you man, great job!
Wow, thanks for your owner's insight! And I'm glad you enjoy my videos. Hope you get to watch some of my other ones.
I’m in the market. This was excellent. Mazda MX-5 RF, here I come!
You won't be sorry!
I have to admit as a Mini JCW owner I am always tempted by the looks of the mx-5, particularly the mx-5rf, however when I did test drove the RF with the notion of switching brands I came away not wanting to switch. The Miata for me had too many downsides. The biggest, I felt much safer in the JCW on the highway driving 80 or 85 miles an hour. The JCW felt much quicker to gain that speed, was more stable and when trucks or large SUVs went by and the Miata seemed to be at their mercy and the JCW not as much. The next was space. When I travel for a vacation with my wife I like to go in a sports car not her luxury vehicle. Probably most do this in reverse but since I do all the driving I want the driving to be fun so the sports car and I could not imagine how one goes away with two people for a week or two in the Miata. Lastly as a mountain biker I need to be able to carry my bike to the trails. I thought I could use a suction cup roof mount bike carrier I saw on line. It was fitted on a mustang and this guy flew down a bumpy road and the bike was as stable as could be. Unfortunately the roof on the RF is not solid enough. Pushing lightly with you hand on the metal roof panel it depresses, so a suction mounted rack was not going to happen. Mazda has no trailer hitch mounting kit so that avenue, although not a great one, still would not work. Concerning the two cars on twisty roads, both are a ton of fun. My JCW is configured with the manual shifter. In this area it was a toss up. Of course I am very accustomed to front wheel drive vehicles and not rear. If I would have adjusted fully to a rear wheel car my feelings may have changed but in the test drive I took on along country back road with plenty of twists I enjoyed both equally. In terms of pure sports car looks, my vote is the Miata RF. Love its looks! On the other hand the mini is also a fantastic looking car but not as "pure sports car" as the Miata, which is why I had been eyeing them. In the end the JCW hit too many of my needs and just for a slightly more "sports car" look I was not going to switch cars and loose so much.
Love my 2020 miata. Adjustable coilovers would make it perfect. I had a NA which was fun stock for me. Had a NC which was soso but lowering it transformed the look and performance.
Starting around the 8-minute mark when discussing storage in the MX-5, no mention of the cubby behind each seat was made. Utilizing those two for infrequently used items and moving the flat repair kit to the cubby in the trunk where a jack could also live greatly adds to the storage capacity of the Miata.
Dammit, I knew I was forgetting something! Thanks for the feedback!
Great comparison for review. I have sometime wondered about the British car. So glad I got the MX !
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed watching the video!
It is not a British car anymore. It is a BMW.
It's not British and hasn't been for many years.
Love this Mazda Miata. It’s a must buy at some point in one’s life.
Ive had both and both are awesome! However, just purchased another Mini Cooper S convertible as they're slightly more practical and comfortable for longer touring trip! I would not rule out another MX5/ Miata in the future....both solid options.
I prefer the MX-5; it has looks, agility, and did I say the looks? I'm averaging 34.6MPG in my 2021 RF, Club with BBS, Brembos, Bilsteins and Recaro seats. So far my driving has been all in town, at 35 to 45 MPH, and sometimes up to 50 MPH in a couple of places. It's a tiny car...but for me it's awesome!
As a kid I loved the Mini series cars, but Miata is always the answer, especially the NA/ND
Enjoyed your review (and comedy!) I've owned a MINI Paceman S. Over the life of the vehicle, the MINI began to use more oil between oil changes and was no longer capable of making it the full 10,000 miles between synthetic oil changes. I'm told by dealer mechanics that this is typical of these BMW engines. As far as MINI convertibles go, I've never seen the point of the 4 seat convertible. Those rear seats look like only a place for small dogs or toddlers. Why bother??? The best MINI convertible EVER was their 2 seat Roadster, which they discontinued (along with my Paceman). IMO, they can ditch the 4 seat convertible and bring back the Roadster. It was truly the miniest MINI!
As for me, my dollars do the talking. I own a 2017 Miata RF GT, and I'm very happy with it. I'd buy another. Former convertibles I've owned?
- 2006 Mercedes SLK 280
- 2009 Audi TT-S Roadster
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed my video and comedic touches. Totally agree with you on those back seats. Best to just fold them and use the area for more cargo capacity. Is the MX5 your primary car or do you have another?
The Miata is my nice weather play car or emergency spare car. Primary commuter is a pedestrian Honda HR-V. In the past though, the TT and the SLK were my daily cars.
@@MrBTRDAYZ I like the HR-V! Great little car.
Bought the MX-5 after only one test drive I had taken. :) No regrets!
Nice, congratulations on your purchase!
MINI! MINI! .Enjoyed your in depth comparison!
Thanks! I also compared the Cooper S against the Mazda 3
Nice, fair review. But I disagree about making the MX-5 bigger. Mazda worked really hard to make the ND smaller, shorter and lighter than its predecessor; it's one of the reasons why I bought one. You're 6'4". Dude, as Coach McCarthy told me when I tried out for the high school basketball, "sorry son, sometimes life's unfair."
Agree 100%. Perfect as is for us five teners!
I went from a 2006 Mini Cooper to a 2021 MX5 in Polymetal Grey color. That 2006 Mini was A LOT of fun, but the MX5 plays on a whole other league, and I plan on keeping it with me forever.
Congratulations on your purchase! What made you decide the MX-5 over a newer Mini Cooper?
@@MGReviewsBlog I think it’s a combination of different things what make the MX5 so unique… steering, manual clutch, rear wheels, weight, etc… but for sure a JCW is a winner too. I’m also more into roadsters although the Mini is expected to be a better daily car. Oh, and the price of the Miata is also a bargain for how much fun it gives.
Good to know. I have an 03 MCS and love it but am looking into a MX5 as my next car. Have not driven one yet though. That will be the true test..
I own a Mini Cooper S (R56) and a MX5 ND. They are both a blast to drive in twisty roads. Very different cars, but driving them always put a big smile in my face. So much fun little cars.
You have the best of both worlds haha. How's the maintenance on the Mini? I'm noticing a lot of people in the comments of this video saying that it'll cost a fortune. Is it true or is it overblown?
@@MGReviewsBlog Only issue I´ve had so far was having the thermostat replaced a couple of years ago. About 200€, workshop labor included. Clutch is probably the next thing to be done. I Bought this car new 13 years ago, and that´s all the issues I´ve had. You should check regularly the oil level, as it´s quite an oil thirsty engine, but do the correct maintenance and it will be fine. Great little car!
@@Kgonros77 awesome, thanks for your feedback!
@@MGReviewsBlog older minis were not reliable exept the R56 mini cooper S that were hit and miss, newer ones f56 are know for being extremly reliable, people commenting mini are unreliable just dont keep up to date, like people saying mazda are rust buckets.
I have a 2021 MX-5 ST Club. It’s a great car, but it is not as high end as a Mini. The reliability is a true plus. Still, I enjoy driving it and look forward to getting in each time I have someplace to go. The Recaro seats make a huge difference and being short, there is more than enough room. I actually added a thick supportive seat cushion to boost me up a touch.
To me the next step up would be a late model used Porsche Boxster or a Z4. I had a 2010 Z4 and it’s a close call in terms of which car I like better with the 10-yr old Z4 a more comfortable ride with high and better at high speeds, but the more nimble and energetic Mazda winning at anything below 65.
The Mazda is also less prestigious of a name than BMW, Porsche or even Mini, but the fact that is more fun and practical reflectis how good the car is.
A soul red mx5 with recaro wheels ( diamond) original, and some lower springs. Thats what I have on my 2021 model. No problem to take a weekend trip for two persons, if you use softbags.
Great video... Congrats.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I guess I'm the odd one of the bunch here. I've owed a 2021 MX5 for about a year and half but with my aging body and less lack of agility now, I recently sold it and purchased the Mini Cooper convertible. I very much enjoyed the Miata but the small size has made me re-think things and went to the Mini, where I am much happier now.
The Mazda was well built and glad I had my time with one. Was fun and I think a very sexy looking roadster for the money.
I do wish Mazda would stretch and widen the MX5 and probably add a turbo. I have to say I've enjoyed both cars but like I said already, age has pushed me into a much happier place for me in the Mini.
Thanks for your ownership feedback!
JCW surprisingly not a bad value compared to Miata or Miata RF Club. More power, more space, much more tech.
JCW also has a longer warranty and free scheduled maintenance.
For some reason, Mini Convertible reviewers never fold the rear seat, space is a prime consideration among convertible intenders.
FYI, Miata has additional storage in hidden compartments behind seats.
PS - I like your no nonsense presentation, I especially appreciate the lack of the fake hoots and laughs most reviewers do during acceleration - it was fun when Top Gear did it 25 years ago, now it’s just fake and irritating.
PSS - no more of the self-deprecating manboob jokes, no one is perfect, and once you said it, I couldn’t unsee it. And then you kept coming back to it.
Otherwise keep up the good work.
mx5 by faaaar... Excelent Video!
Thank you!
I have a 2018 Miata Grand Touring, and I love it! I’ve wanted a Miata for 30 years, and while I had a 99 with an automatic, the manual is a must, as mine is a6-speed manual. I bought it used over a year ago with a 4-pipe Remus exhaust system, so it sounds better than the original. I use it as a daily driver, and I’ve only had to replace the tires. The resale on it is higher than what I paid. Try that with a used Mini.
I just bought a 2018 club 50th Anniversary Canadian Edition with 5,000 kms in red pick it up in a week. I've waited 40 yrs lol.
I have a Mx5 NC 2006 and a Mini One 2006 for winter and rainy days. I love them both. The Mini is being replaced by a 2019 Cooper S Sport hardtop, the best of both worlds.. Miata is fun and reliable but our summers are short in the UK and the Mini easier to get the golf clubs in and better in the snow. You only live once, save up and get both.....
Huh, I'm surprised that the MX-5 Miata is faster to 60 than the more powerful Mini Cooper. But like you said, I guess it makes sense since the mazda is rwd and its lighter.
Power to weight ratio. An F-650 has almost 1000hp but takes 20 seconds or so to get to 100kmh. Why? Because it weighs nearly 5 tonnes. And always remember, lighter is funner. The mini's extra bulk means it will never, ever have the live feel of the MX. RWD, manual, mid-mount engine, electric-assist steering, drive-by-wire acceleration, tuned naturally-aspirated engine, dedicated platform, ground-up design ... The list goes on. The Mini is an enthusiast car (and like all BMWs basically a computer on wheels). The MX is a pure driver's car. That's the difference and either you understand that or you don't.
Love the Miata. I have a 2018 GT, with a 6-speed manual. It has a Remus exhaust, but no Brembo brakes or Recaros. With its black paint, black leather Interior with red stitching, BOSE audio, and cherry red top, it gets a lot of looks, and will likely be far more reliable. While I don’t have the BBS RIMS, I do have nice 17” smoked chrome rims that look awesome. Also, at 5’8” tall, I have plenty of room.
Too bad RUclips doesn't allow for pictures in the comments section. Would love to see your MX-5.
Seriously...which one would I pick?
Well, look at the Bug-Eyed Mini Cooper then look at the beautiful Miata.
Sheesh, are you going to offer your girl a ride on your "mini" or take her away in your dream machine?
Miata.
Has anyone ever mentioned that you look like Mr. Bean?
Funny enough, nearly all of my female co-workers when i drove the Mini to work that week, said that they'd rather take the Mini over the Mazda. But like you said, most guys would choose the MX-5 (including myself). And yes, I have been told I look like Mr. Bean. I watched all his shows & movies growing up haha
Thanks for watching!
@@MGReviewsBlog Hi, at the 12:00 minute make, you are looking back and I thought of Mr. Bean. Hey, I like your reviews very much and after helping my teenage son edit some of his videos, I now know how much work goes into creating a good one.
@@richardflaherty2373 thanks Richard!
Mazda is the best, the Cooper will STAY IN THE REPAIR SHOP. Consumer Reports.....don’t lie. GREAT REVIEW!
Thank you!
yeah .... if it mini, better to rent then own.
Their not even in the same driving category.
The MX5 is the best selling sports car on the planet, with possibly the best gear change . of any current production car, at any price.
The Mini looks like a pram, used for some other activity, once your kids have outgrown its use.
Lmao mini coopers have definitely lost their respect.
Was considering swopping to a mini cooper S convertible *great car) - but my MX5 MK 4 is just too good I can't find anything I like more. Will probably get a newer one with more powerful 2 litre engine. Great review thanks.
How long have you owned the MX5? Any major issues or just regular scheduled maintenance?
I like both but I got a F56 model
S. I have wanted one for a while, and also because the 4 seats.
I'm curious, how has maintenance or any unforseen breakages been for you? I'm noticing a lot of comments on the video about poor Mini reliability.
I bought a 2.0 litre MX5 RF for my wife 3 years ago and she hated it. I loved it. The only car ever (and we have had many over nearly 50 years of driving) that I drove just for the love of it. We have recently changed it for a 1.5 Cooper Sport 5 door with a few extras, so not a direct comparison with the video, but what stands out for me is that the Mazda was fun, fun, fun, lightweight and a true driver’s car. However, it had a few shortcomings in terms of refinement. The MINI on the other hand, can’t touch the Mazda for thrills, but it is head and shoulders over the Mazda on quality. Plus 4 seats, much better practicality and toys galore (which you have to pay extra for, but still massively cheaper than the MX’s revised pricing policy). I see the MINI as a second car, the Mazda as a third car for weekends - not very practical, too small, it creaks and rattles a bit, it is not that fast, but boy, is it fun - for the driver, not for the passenger!
Very honest review, and can't agree more. Bought the 2.0L originally as a second car for my wife, but I know I'll need to get her another car. We keep the mx5 for weekends/road trips arounds Europe. Glorious driving around here top down through the mountain passes / coast lines / land ...
Being 6ft 1' I have test drived the Mazda and when i bend forward my head touches the top frame of the windscreen. I consider this a risk for serious injury in case belts does not tighten.
In Mini there is much more space. Also, has anybody compared to road noise with top up?
Mazda Mx5 for me. In fact I just ordered an RF GT Back roof edition :-) .... although I haev abit of a wait, looking like Feb at the earliest
Whoa!!! Wait until February until it arrives??? That's insane! I knew there were waits with some brands but I didn't know it was this bad with Mazda.
I like your videos
Thank you! I hope you subscribed because I've got a few exciting cars booked over the summer months ;)
Greetings from Costa Rica 🇨🇷
Hello! How's the weather over there this time of year?
I drive both an NC MX5 and a Mini ‘Sidewalk’ convertible, the mini is old but it’s a joy. I was on the point of buying a JCW convertible but the salesman suddenly increased the price by £4K and I walked away. I was a tiny bit pleased because I love my MX5 and didn’t want to lose it…the mini lives in Northern Ireland, we have a home there, I want us to keep that mini forever.
I would buy an MX5 ND in a heart beat if it had the characteristics of mine but I suspect it’s not as good in some respects, body roll, storage, lousy paint colours…I’d want red and that Mazda red is the absolute pits. The design is also a bit aggressive, mine smiles at me when I open the garage door. I will probably have a JCW convertible and keep it until we’re both ancient. My wife has a Cooper bought new 5 years ago and she likes it very much, however I want a higher spec…better seats like the JCW.
i prefer the mx5 without a doubt.
Had a 2006 silver Mini convertible and changed that for a 2016 1.5 MX5 icon edition in same grey colour as the review car. This review spot on and agree with comments. Mini better for space as can use back seats. MX5 can surprisingly carry a lot but you do need to plan your packing! Interior - MX5 very minimalistic; Mini - very retro. You are tighter in the MX5 obviously. Driving - MX5 better on every level. Looks - the MX5, being rarer on the road gets more attention and looks like a proper sports car. Mini - liked the look of the first gen model, the front end of the new gen doesn't look right. Just a personal opinion though. Finally, my partner's opinion 😁? She wished I kept the mini as more space but she cannot drive so will never understand ITS ALL ABOUT THE DRIVING DYNAMICS. If we were to afford 2 cars i have said we would get a 2016 Mazda CX3 Sport Nav so we can put potatoes in the boot or be a taxi service to appease the civil powers.. 😀
Do you still have the MX5? After driving one nearly every year now for the lat 3 years as a demo car, I really want to buy one as my personal car. But I can't comfortably fit in it cause I'm too tall :(
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I most certainly do, don't want anyone having the benefit of the depreciation! Have no kids either which is the biggest factor in still retaining it. The biggest deal breaker is whether you can fit comfortably, it's such a shame but you cannot cut your legs off...
At 6'6 the JCW was really the only choice. But agree that if the Mazda had another couple inches of leg room it would have been a tough choice. The pops of the JCW exhaust make me giggle and I've always liked Mini's toggle switches. It's also surprised me with how much you can fit in it. Even a full Costco cart will fit with room to spare. Have had no problem taking a back seat passenger either as my wife is short enough to scoot the seat forward enough for some rear leg room. I'm glad someone is making a fun small convertible that works for tall folks.
What kind of Mini do you have?
@@MGReviewsBlog '19 JCW Convertible
@@RT-jr9en nice! How's the reliability & maintenance on it? I'm noticing a lot of people are mentioning that in the comments of this video.
@@MGReviewsBlog No problems. The 3rd gen F series are significantly more reliable than the earlier models. Has only had the included free maintenance so far.
I have a mini se and a fiat 124 spider. Love them both. I am 5’10 and my head is very close to the roof of my 124. Do not have that problem at all in the mini. Surprised you can fit at 6’4.
Fit, yes. Comfortable, no. Haha
You left out another comparison category - wind buffeting at speed. Three years ago my daughter bought a Mini JCW hardtop - the dealer loaned them a Mini convertible until their car came in. She said that there was much more buffeting with the top down in the Mini compared to their Miata.
The rear wind deflector solves that by capping the rear seats and putting a vertical surface directly behind you.
Which one ?
The Mazda MX-5 $th generation has driving dynamics that the mini just does not have. Its very light weight / naturally aspirated engine produces a flat torque curve & every gear gives you acceleration in the proper rev range. A super light clutch with a smooth 6 speed manual transmission connects the driver to the car. Just a toy ? A garage queen ? I bought a 2016 MX-5 Club soft top in 4 season Northern Illinois. My daily drive ! When the snow starts flying the winter tires go on & its almost as much fun when its cold. Going into year 5 with this little roadster & really impressed with its very simple effective design. Thru every weather condition this car has been solid & reliable. I do not drive it conservatively either !
I'm curious, how does the MX5 fare in heavy snow? Can it still get traction with the snow tires?
@@MGReviewsBlog Absolutely brilliant, snow and steep hills for a month last year..
@@MGReviewsBlog As long as the snow is under 7 " this car will make it any where ! When snow drifts were over 2 feet I waited for the snow plows & into work a couple hours later. No big deal ! I left my car stock height & have Michelin X- ICE 3 snow tires.
Its a beast in snow ! Ice storms too it really didn't matter. I apply the 303 Fabric Guard to the soft top every fall to make sure its weather proof for the winter. Good to go ! Avoid parking under ANY trees though in any weather as the filters will clog & the interior could get wet if you don't. Traction in winter is good as the torque is not that great. I change / rotate the tires over each season myself & keep the out of season tires on a dolly stacked with cardboard / insulation between each tire in the garage. Its a great daily driver in all seasons ! I look forward to my drive everyday 365 days of the year ! So far there has not been a day I didn't make it to work because of weather. My experience with the 2016 MX-5 Club soft top after 4.5 years. Absolutely love this car !
If you have a dog, the choise is very simple, the mini jcw all the year around!!!
Understand as well that Mini has taken their vehicle and powered it and cut the top off knowing that there is a market for this (although the price!). Mazda has been producing the MX for 30+ years knowing there is no market, no economies. They do it for love and for the joy of there being such a car in the world.
Power to weight ratio. An F-650 has almost 1000hp but takes 20 seconds or so to get to 100kmh. Why? Because it weighs nearly 5 tonnes. And always remember, lighter is funner. The mini's extra bulk means it will never, ever have the live feel of the MX. RWD, manual, mid-mount engine, electric-assist steering, drive-by-wire acceleration, tuned naturally-aspirated engine, dedicated platform, ground-up design ... The list goes on. The Mini is an enthusiast car (and like all BMWs basically a computer on wheels). The MX is a pure driver's car. That's the difference and either you understand that or you don't.
The Mazda is much sexier and much more engaging to drive with rear wheel drive and better weight distribution
I’ve had 2 mx5 NBs and an R56 CooperS - hatch . The mini was a fab go kart and a great mix of style and torque propelled speed. The mx5 is much slower, but the way the back end slides, it’s lightness and steering feel make it the more involving on country lanes B roads in UK . The new mini as tested here is just so much heavier and I drive a 3 series BMW with same gearbox and auto - that combo gives great pace but the weight and space between the gears make it much less involving . I would choose an mx5 any day to do the stelvio pass, but it would be murder driving there in a NB - 2000rpm per 20mph in top gear! The mini is the more refined and better all round car but the Mazda is the best on those hairpins .
I reckon buy a Mini Hatch or a MX5 depending on whether outright pace or wind in your hair is your preference - in Britain Mazda’s are known as hairdressers cars, but personally I think the mini soft top is even more of one . Great review 😊
Really? the MX5 still has the "hairdresser's" car stereotype? I thought it would have gotten better with this 4th generation and the aggressive styling.
@@MGReviewsBlog - I think the hairdresser thing is a joke that’s always stuck with MX5’s - personally I just don’t get wound up by it - anyone who hasn’t driven one doesn’t know what they are missing ! The great thing is each generation of car has held on to the core hallmarks of the original
I want both for Christmas...
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I own a r56 Mini for 4 years now its fun in the twistys ok on straight line acceleration the MX -5 will out handel the Mini period ! the center of gravity is much lower on the mx-5 also the the 50/50 weight distribution of the mx-5 is the total game changer .then 1 last thing there is always a day when its resale time... you can't give a mini away and people will beg you for a used MX-5
Thanks for the feedback and insight into owning a Mini. Yes, the MX-5 is a very sought-after car, surprisingly, even here in Vancouver where it usually rains for 364 out of 365 days a year haha
If I decide to get myself a roadster, which is actually a fun car with almost zero every day or family practicallity, then at least I'll entirely let my heart speak for that. And my heart speaks clearly for the Mazda. Clearly.
Both of these cars have many imperfections in any discipline other than happily cruise under the sun, so I'd decide based on which of the two makes me smile (and my heart beat), and thats clearly the MX5 for me.
My wife has a MINI Cooper S convertible and I own a Mazda Miata. Older than these two cars but the same results in a side by side comparison. I love my Miata but sometimes I opt to drive the MINI. It's better with the top up and buffers the wind better with the top down.
It's like this review was perfectly tailored to you and your wife ;) :p
Any thoughts on upgrading to the new versions of these cars?
@@MGReviewsBlog I have my eye on the Miata ND. My plan is is to wait until a nice used one is in my budget though. I am by nature quite frugal and the Miata is a seasonal toy adding about 5k miles a year.
A manual is available with the convertible 3 cylinder, but no manual on S or JCW
Honestly, that Mini is still expensive and fairly slow for its price. I would pick the Miata over Mini since it's about driver involvement so the lightweight, RWD and manual transmission is prioritized over a little bit more power. If I wanted more power, I would go for something completely different that is noticeably more powerful, like a Veloster N dct or a Golf R. I wouldn't go for a pure "driver's car".
i choose mini cooper. it love classic although modern technology built in it.
An owner of r52🎉🎉❤❤
A much better comparison would be the 2022 Cooper S with 6 speed manual transmission. You can't compare an automatic to a manual it just doesn't work. If you would've driven the Cooper 6 speed I can almost guarantee you would change your mind and like it better. Not just because of the extra leg room but because of how much fun it is to drive. It's the most fun I've ever had on 4 wheels, way more fun than the Miata.
I agree, it would've been a better comparison if the Mini was a manual. But I can't pick & choose which cars go in the media press fleets. I have to make due with what is available to me.
@@MGReviewsBlog Makes sense. That said great job and loved the video!
@@BarefootVlogger thanks!
Jcw's mine car. Wonderful car 💕💕
MX-5 and manual for me!
Loooooove it!! Mini is the number 1
I still prefer the older mx5 styling on the front lights area
The one from the 3rd generation?
In track mx5 is history
In April, I bought an older MX5 NC 1.8 in very good condition. For the first three months, I was absolutely thrilled with it. Suddenly I was annoyed that it was not very comfortable and practical for daily commuting. More and more often I was looking for a reason to use a VW Arteon on the way to work. And in August I ordered a new Mini JCW convertible. Delivery date March 2022! The reason I chose the Mini. If you buy an expensive toy - a convertible, you want to play with it every day from spring to autumn.
Wow, March 2022!?!? The microchip shortage is really affecting BMW/Mini. But congrats on your order! Hopefully it gets there sooner for you :)
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I think a more relative comparison would have been the MX-5 vs a MINI S. The JCW is a pocket rocket. I should know as I currently have as a summer toy a 2021 MINI S cabriolet, but I owned a 2016 MINI JCW for 3 years as my daily. That was my favorite car of all time. It’s more performance oriented than the S. Having said that, I’m on the verge of switching out my 2021 cabriolet S for a 2023 Mazda MX-5 RF. I think it’s more playful and toss-able than the S (I’ve also owned a 2001 and 2009 Miata, so I’ve also had a soft spot for them as well). Both MINI’s Aand MX-5’s are great cars!
How has the reliability been with your 2016 & 2021 Minis?
@@MGReviewsBlog To the best of my recollection, the only annoyance with my 2016 JCW during my 3 years of ownership was due to the low profile run flat tires. 4 tire changes due to hernias as a result of potholes on our fine streets of Montreal. The 2021 Cabriolet I’ve only driven 2,000 (😳) or so kilometres, so no issues there. I also owned a 2019 JCW MINI Countryman for almost 3 years; no problems of any importance.
8:06 what is that “certain item” 😎
Haha, I think you know
Are you in Vancouver bro?
I am indeed.
people that say the MX-5 is better, have never driven a JCW.
To drive, it is. It gives you more feedback through the steering wheel & seat as to what the car is doing. Plus you can drift it if you want 😉
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@@MGReviewsBlog Haha well its subjective. I definetly think the JCW is way more fun to drive (and sounds better). Great video mate, cheers.
Nope i did tune JCW to 300ps. Mx5 ND RF better
If only Mazda makes it the size of Z4. I have Mazda 3 2021 and getting inside Miata is very uncomfortable. It's way too small and dangerous to drive on the roads full of SUV's. And the trunk space is pretty much none existent. Z4 doesn't have those problems having the same form factor.
I don't think the car needs to be as big as the Z4. Like I said in the video, it just needs about one inch or so of legroom and I'd be perfectly happy with it.
Problem with the MX 5 if you are petite like 5ft the drivers seating position is too low and too far from the pedals.
Oh? I obviously have the other problem. Is moving the seat more forwards not enough? I understand that the height might be an issue because the seat doesn't have height adjustment.
Miata is always the answer.
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There's no doubt about which one wins the beauty contest.
MX-5?
Yes.@@MGReviewsBlog
Looks, RWD, slick 6 speed. Miata all the way. Yes, I own one. Buy the Cooper for the wife.
How has the MX-5 treated you in terms of reliability? Just scheduled maintenance or have you experienced anything worse with the car?
For me, can't even compare a 2 seater with a 2+2. Something about the way a 2 seater feels in the curves.
The MX5 is a truly unique car. I can't wait to see the next generation of it.
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Mini forever!
Are u shure the mazda goes 0 to 100km/h faster than the jcw?
I got the times from MotorTrend. It makes sense since the MX5 is RWD and lighter so it's easier to launch but the JCW will beat it to 1/4 mile with a much higher trap speed.
@@MGReviewsBlog ok
Is the road so bumpy?
Yea some of the roads around my area. They dig up a small section of it for a pipe and then only repai that section. They don't repair the entire road until it gets really, really bad
Love the MX5 but room is very limited, conversly, the MiniCoop does have more room for luggage, but the price, egads!
For family Mini is better, if a stroller has small size
True but I imagine a car seat will be very difficult to fit in the back seats.
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The Mini looks comical, the MX5 looks sexy. Mazda reliability is legendary, mini unreliability is legendary. Mx5 rides and handles better. No contest. MX5 is the clear winner.
@Kenny Kolodor So someone has one that has been OK (allegedly), and that alone trumps the entire car industry's verdict on them? Are you a nutter or what? Check the facts, not your mate's hearsay you dumbo!