TOWING WITH A HALF TON TRUCK (FORD F-150)
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
- Wondering if your half ton truck can tow your travel trailer or 5th wheel? We’ve been towing our 30’ Travel Trailer at 9,200 pounds for over 40k miles across North American for almost two years with no problems. But there are a few things we’ve done to get our truck ready for the task.
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I don't have a truck or a trailer but I love you guys and clicked play anyways. Trish's hand modelling did NOT disappoint!
I was only half paying attention when the hand model thing came on and started laughing out loud. Thank you!!
I WAS FORCED to stop the video at 25 seconds to say this is already one of the best I have ever seen!!!
Thanks for the info on the F-150 & what it’s done for you ... the part I liked the best was the “go with what you have, or you’ll never get started.” So very true.
@Calamity Joe 100% this. smh at people pulling these things in half tons. The frame of that half ton is not built to handle that trailer.
But yet look at some old videos of folks pulling Airstreams with old 100 series Fords in Africa on a caravan. They did it!!
Great video! Great tips especially the one on correcting sway with trailer brakes! Thanks!
Thanks! Loved the end!! Thanks for letting me live vicariously with you and see all the great sites!!
You guys are so awesome! What an incredible gift you've given yourselves and your kids.
Just started looking into campers with my wife. Half ton silverado currently. Don't really plan on upgrading the pickup any time soon so this video was definitely helpful. Your whole channel has been helpful!
LOL...the small hands...killin me! Nicely done!
Wow! So enjoyed your video. Love the feel of the whole thing and the information was great as well. Keep on keeping on!
Thank You!!!!!! I have the same truck and the exact same problems you have no idea what a life saver this video has been!!
Great job Trish, love the hands. Welcome home, glad you made it safely. Can't wait to find out where "we're" going next. Love you guys.
Oh the hands. But the bloopers at the end. Just had me rolling. 👍😂😂
That moment the small hand brought the cap up to the license plate...LOL
What I absolutely love about your videos is that you are so informative and hilarious ✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼
✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼 we are learning so much from you guys✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼 love that hand too😂😂😂
Thanks Coral!
Great video guys! We tow with a F150 Eco Boost and love it! (With a 28foot Airstream) You recommended those mirrors to me just under a year ago and they are awesome! No vibration and easy to install.Love everything you guys do and share.
Just getting going with our 2018 F-150. We are towing a Coachmen Freedom Express 192RBS. (roughly 4500 lbs dry) We are camper newbies, so thank you for all your videos...I have learned a lot from you guys!! (First trip next week!)
So true about just getting started. We will be .moving from our pop up to a travel trailer shortly using our current truck. Although we wont be able to go fulltime for 10 years the thrill of going using our weekends and vacation time is pretty exciting.
I'm so ready for that too!! We sold our pop-up and are shopping for a t.t RV but we can't decide on size. I miss camping. We won t be able to do full time for awhile yet either but weekends and holidays most definitely!!!
Good stuff! We have a 2010 F150. Great truck!
Nice additions. Thanks for the insight. Keep having fun.
Great information. This is what I have been trying to figure out. Thank you. Small hands = best.
LOL, Love the Sneezing at the end! ;) But Thank you so much about talking about how a 1/2 Ton can pull your trailer. I am looking for a truck and trailer, and I was Not sure if a 1/2 Ton would be sufficient enough to pull a 24'-26' foot trailer.
Hope that hand model was VERY well paid; she worked it like a true professional. ;-)
We have almost the same truck (V6 EcoBoost instead) and added a weight-distribution hitch, Bilstein 5100 shocks, and the Timbren suspension enhancement system. Tows our 28' trailer like a dream!
Im glad to see you guys pulled out all of the stops with the props, LOL. Loved the little model hands.......Great info....
Hahahahaha....the hand, the hand...oh, my Lordy, I LOVE that hand....:-)
OH MY WORD! Those hands! LOL I love it! hhaha
LOL at Trish and those hand things. You two are a blast!
really well done video. love seeing people with their head on straight about towing. i personally use "the equalizer hitch" . we have a 2002 silverado with the 5.3. planning on a add a leaf to stiffin up the back end along with lifting the rear end about 2 inches in the process. we have trailer brakes installed. all in all you hit it right on the button on the video. take care of your rig and it will take care of you.
Outstanding video!!! By the way, where on earth did you find the music? It's so early '70s my Levi's grew bells as I watched your video. Cool.
remember if you have sag you have to much hitch weight and you have overloaded the trucks suspension. Yes the air bags will level it back out but you are still towing beyond the trucks suspension you are just hiding it. but you do you BOO BOO
I had an autoleveling airbag kit on my 06 F150. It was awesome for towing our boat and hauling loads. It automatically raised the rear end when under load and lowered it back down when unloaded. Best mod ever. I haven’t had bags since but I’ll be installing bags on my 18 Power Wagon now that we’ve begun our RV journey. On board air of course.... ;)
Hey Guy's,
The truck floor mats are the cats meow of floor mats, we have some and love them.
Have a great weekend!!!
You're so fortunate to have your wife there to lend you a....Hand.
tim babb I bet he he he
tim babb ....Creepy, IMHO!
Or two !
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Recent research showed me 2011+ F150 needs a Max Tow Package to tow like this. It can be had on the EcoBoost and 6.2. It gets a different rear bumper, stronger rear springs, trans cooler, selectable shifting, trailer brake controller and extended side mirrors.
I have a 6.2L 11 F150 with max tow. Just got it.
The baby hand is hilarious! Very helpful tips thanks
Thanks for what you are doing! My wife and I are in the hunt for an upgrade from an old Starcraft pop-up to most likely a 5th wheel. Your key ingredient that hit home today was start with what you have. We have narrowed down our view to trailers that my 2014 RAM 1500 can safely tow. One less headache and price tag not looking for a vehicle. There are few choices for 5th wheel trailers for my particular truck in its current build. Starting out small will make it worthwhile for now, with an upgrade down the road sometime. As for the tiny hands.... the perfect "touch" to your video! So reminded me of the SNL character Dooneese. :-)
Okay...the little hands....creepy!!🤣 as someone looking to get started....this was very helpful! Thanks
Lmao I cannot stop laughing at the hand. Great video
Hi KYD👋 great ending with the bloopers! The drone footage on the weekly videos rocks also. Love your family and adventures! Also bless you Trish!
I especially like the sneezing on the hand and wiping it on the pants. That was a nice touch!
Common questions asked in the comments below:
1. How much does my truck weight: 5,900 dry and 9,200 loaded (28' TT)
2. What is my cargo capacity? 1,500 pounds. This is potentially the biggest limitation to half ton towing, not towing capacity.
3. What PSI do I keep my air bags: 35 pounds, which increases to 75 pounds with a load. I never adjust the air and don't think it's too stiff without a load.
4. Do you have a weight distribution system? Yes, I currently have the EAZ-Lift system by Camco. It's started failing after only 15 months and they won't warranty the product. My next system will be a Hensley Hitch bit.ly/Hensley-Hitch
5. Will you ever upgrade to a 5th wheel? Yes
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*We would not have selected a half ton truck to pull 9,200 pounds had we known we would have RV'd this long. It's just what we had and we wanted to get started. If you're serious about RVing and don't already have a truck, there are more benefits to 3/4 ton or diesel - as long as you're not "waiting for the perfect rig".
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Keep Your Daydream for the bike rack, check out the American roll cover. You can use the Tule mounts without drilling and have a bed cover with full bed access even with bikes in place. I love mine
Great vid Marc. One of my hunting partners uses a new WD system called the Recurve. Built in sway control, spring bars attach upside down but works so easy on his 1/2 ton Eco Diesel.
Great move on the Hensley hitch - was happy to have it across windy Oklahoma. It's been great all around. (I used to think Less Junk More Journey named their daughter after the hitch, but maybe its a coincidence)
What 5th wheel is at the top of your list? Thanks!
that is too funny.. they, LJMJ, use a equalizer hitch way the by.. I have propride and while not battled the winds of OK have loved it for sure. heavy bugger tho.
Start with what you have! the best advice thank you
Love the “hands”!✋🏻🤚🏻🤗🤗🤗
Love the bloopers. Great job on vids. My wife n l will be doing the same thing in about 1 1/2 yrs. I just went a tad larger on the truck- f450 n a 5th wheel. Can’t wait.
Have same 2013 F150 Platinum however with 3.5 Ecoboost with Roush Performance Ram Air Filter towed 4300lb travel trailer, have recently changed to 25ft 5th Wheel approx 6700lb dry, with the reese revolution pin box. Tons of power and handles the mountains with ease. Excellent topics and yes the little finger hands were interesting -LOL!
We have a 2012 F150 Lariat and have a 30' Vantage trailer. We have towed this trailer over 10,000 miles without incident. I put load leveler shocks and it is perfect and level...
How does it handle up hills and downhills ?
And do you have any e-brakes on the trailer? Just because a vehicle can move the trailer doesn't mean that it can stop it, safely. Just my two cents there.
Have you ever hauled it through mountains? I'm about to haul one through Georgia/Tennessee mountains with 13 King Ranch. I was wondering if I should just go through Arkansas instead. Love that truck. Do not want to lose it or family to break failure.
@@jacoe33333 It does not even know that it is going up and down hills, Twin Turbo is amazing!
@@Sig721Tau Yes I have trailer brakes!
I laughed so hard that I forgot what I was looking for! You two have a great time!
I loved the little hand model it cracked me up!!! Keep up the great videos, I love it!!!
Thanks for the great info! We are looking for a good way to haul bikes with our 5th wheel camper... I'm thinking some sort of mount back by the ladder. I love the floor mats, too! Best invention!!
Perfect. Just make sure what ever the bike rack is secured to has a strong mount or weld. Bike racks shake... and after thousands of miles of tiny shaking, I've seen bumpers come off the rig. That's the reason I used my truck. Many 5er's put the bikes on the truck cab roof.
Oh...if it's just two bikes, I've seen many trucks with a front bumper rack.
I am allergic to bike racks, for the exact reason you mentioned. With the fifth wheel I always had a truck with an 8ft bead, so my typical set up was, between the cab and the hitch, I would remove one pedal and lay down the first bike turning the handles parallel to the bike and put a piece of 1” foam over it, just turn the handles on the second bike and lay it over the foam and do this with 3 bikes ( my spouse can’t ride a bike) and would attached them with bungees. The roof I have two Kayaks on there and lastly between the tail gate and the hitch I would stack some fire wood on shorter trips. The 8ft. Bead is the best with a fifth wheel anyway for additional reasons. Well my two long cents
Regards
Robert, we have an 8ft bed. Our truck is a 2000 dually Diesel Dodge 3500. I like your idea... We would probably need to fit 4 bikes for at least the next 2 years or so.... That's a possibility for us that I hadn't thought about.
Keep Your Daydream We'll have 4 for a while. I also don't like the idea of having them way in the back of the rig... Maybe we can get some sort of roof mount or try the bed idea that Robert suggested.
Hand model prop = insta subscribe. That was hilarious!
I have a set of Cipa towing mirrors S well for my Sierra. Absolutely the best. Look like OEM mirrors when their on. No vibration. Installs literally in seconds.
Great and fun video. We tow our 27ft trailer with our 2010 F150 and it does well. Sure a diesel 3/4 ton would be easier, but we decided to use what we have.
Excellent truck info, well presented. The finger hands were mostly creepy, but also slightly alluring. Now, I may have to make an appointment with a doctor..
Lol. That's the same feedback we received when they made their first appearance in big sur.
Humble Road this is the best comment 🤣
Ops. I meant to click thumbs-up :) Hope you don't get an email!
Nice job as always
Keep up the good work some nice upgrades to think about I guess it's not bothering you. you have to climb into your truck all the time I don't see a running board I'm thinking about adding them to my Ford truck
Humble Road.......I thought it was just me who thought the little hand was creepy, kind of like Deadpool's little hand. Great info despite the weird little hand.
Dying at the hand models!! 😂😂😂😂 love it!!
That hand was funny LOL! The videos are great you really taught me a lot. Much appreciated!
I totally giggled when I saw those little hands😜.
that was the best hand model ever!
:)
I love you guys. Please do me a favor and look at the label inside the drivers door and check what the payload capacity is of your truck and then subtract your tongue weight and your gear and people weight. Your truck may only have a payload of 1350 lbs and if your tongue weight is 800 lbs that doesn't leave you much weight for cargo and people. Please take it slow with this setup, I have done a lot of research trying to make the 150 work for me and I am sure you are at the max on payload and gross total weight (truck+TT), you are probable well under the max tow weight. If you ever pull with a 250 you won't believe the difference. When my wife drives with our 250 I have to keep on her to stay below 80 mpg. You can't even tell the TT is back there. Also take look at the electronic sway control by sway master. It mounts on your trailer tongue and when it detects a sway it hits the trailer brakes to pull the trailer back inline. Safe travels keep up the great work.
You have a great point. I had a segment on cargo capacity, but didn't include it because I wasn't 100% sure on my info. But I'm 1,500 pounds, which is still pushing it. But the weight dist. system off sets that I was told.
no, you're still limited to that 1500lbs of payload regardless if you have a WD hitch or not. Helper springs, airbags, etc, while all rated to carry x amount of weight, only help level the truck/prevent sag, they wont increase your payload rating. I'm willing to bet you're pretty close to the limits of that 1500 if not over. Best bet, hit up a scale and know your weights. You should also look into good e rated LT tires if you havent already.
Great video guys, keep em coming!
There has been a lot of discussion on boards concerning what your insurance company would do if you had a serious accident and you were exceeding the tow and cargo capacities. Some say that is the first thing the insurance company looks at. Many RV dealers play stupid and let their customers drive away overloaded because they know if they told them they needed a bigger truck they wouldn't make a sale. You guys are the best RV Tubers out there. You set the bar for the rest.
@@rvsomedaybutnottoday7430 that is absolutely true guys. Also if someone is seriously hurt or killed you will be held liable because you would be exceeding your payload which means you are overweight for that vehicle. Check the laws with your local DOT because if you ever have a serious accident you will be in a lot of trouble.
The truck mirrors extenders you suggested work great. We just got a 2012 F150 ecoboost to pull our "new-to-us" 1973 Avion LaGrande, and the mirrors help a lot for changing lanes and watching traffic. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for this video Marc and Trish!! VERY helpful. I shared with my hubby
Love hands!!! Can’t stop laughing
I know some of your respondents have the Eco-Boost engine but for an old timer like me, there's no "replacement for displacement". The 6.2L engine is your biggest asset. The Eco-Boost engines have great specs and perform well in towing tests but in general terms, the smaller engines operating under boost pressure can't help but wear out sooner than your big block. The payload capacity is definitely the weak link in a half ton's capabilities. The other issue with heavy loads (and reasons to upgrade to 3/4 or higher is the stress on drive train components including transmission, brakes, axles and wheel bearings. Your 9,200 lb load is what my Ram 2500 weighs out at with a fully loaded truck camper (800 lbs below it's GVWR). I'd be curious to know what the GVWR and rear axle rating is on your truck. I'd bet good money that you're overloaded. Also, check the load ratings on your tires and verify that they are also within spec.This can have safety ramifications as well as legal issues should you ever be in an accident. Take your rig to a CAT Scale someday, fully loaded (full tank of fuel etc.) and get your weights checked (front and rear truck axles and trailer axles) just for peace of mind. I don't mean any of this to be critical but simply useful information for anyone interested.
All good points.
Travels with Yoly good points . Don't forget that the passengers are part of the equation. 5 people (600lbs), 10% minimum recommended tongue weight (920) Bikes (100) fuel, etc. I have a Ram 1500 with 1700 payload and my trailer is 7000 GVWR and It is hard for me to keep the weights right. My local CAT scale costs $11 for a first weigh and $2 for a reweigh within 24 hrs. Knowing individual axle weights is critical. Most important is that you are not reducing the weight on the front axle which will compromise the steering in an emergency situation. I don't get much sag with stock suspension so it is possible that they are overweight.
We have an older F350 diesel dually and had to swap out a truck camper for a 5th wheel because of this very reason. The truck had NO problem going anywhere we wanted to go (with the truck camper), but we were over the GVWR (I guess they didn't rate them very high for our year). Just because it CAN pull it doesn't mean it SHOULD pull it..............and we were very concerned about any legal ramifications should we have an accident.
Your point comment " Just because it CAN pull it doesn't mean it SHOULD pull it" are words of wisdom. I know there are a lot of people with 1500s that carry truck campers way over the GVWR. They justify it by citing the suspension upgrades that they have made saying that the truck handles it easily. Adding air assist to the rear will definitely help level the truck and improve the ride but nothing you do with suspension upgrades increases the GVWR. In this condition, in an accident, even if you're not cited, your insurance company is off the hook in paying a claim. If you look at the FCA (Fiat Chrysler of America) web-site, it states quite clearly that NONE of the half tons (other than the lightest regular cab, 2WD, short bed, V-6) is CERTIFIED to carry a slide-in truck camper. Doing so could void the warranty on drive train components. We purchased the lightest hard side slide-in camper we could find advertised with a dry weight of 1,385 lbs for our half ton (with the suspension upgrades). With just my wife and I and a light load I calculated us to be a100 lbs below our GVWR so we went ahead and purchased the camper. I had never driven a truck camper rig before and the 360 miles home from the dealer in NC was really freaky weird and scary. Just before we got home I stopped at a Love's truck stop, filled the tank and went around back to the scales, again, just for peace of mind. The camper was completely empty other than a small bottle of propane provided by the dealer. Surprisingly (or maybe not so much) the truck weighed over the GVWR without my wife and I nor any camping gear in it. The camper as it turned out was about 600 lbs heavier than advertised. Within days we were back to the dealer and given a full refund. A month later we switched to the 2500, went back to the same dealer and purchased a really nice truck camper, a bigger, heavier one than before. We are 800 lbs below the 2500's GVWR (fully loaded) and the difference in ride (confidence) was night & day :-)
LMFAO they are going to wear out but people keep buying them something got to give they are not cheap trucks i love seeing bullshit comments like that but you can't tell me why the ecoboost is Ford's best selling engine
You folks are just plain fun to watch and your experiences entertaining and informative
Thanks Larry. Glad you're here.
You guys usually crack us up, but the "tiny hands" sent us over the edge!
The hands remind me of Chucky from Child’s Play😱
Had a 2011 f150 4x4 5.0 with 175k pull 37' 9000lbs camper from Texas to Idaho and back. Everything stock, no mirrors, just mashed the gas. I did get 8 mpg.
Do you wish you had an F250 for that instead?
@@andrewmorgan7500 sure, just not what I owned. That 150 was stolen unfortunately. I drive a 2003 7.3 now. 339000.
I occasionally tow with my expedition and even with hevier duty suspension it still sags. This video basically sold me on air suspension for my next truck. SO thanks for that!
Amazing advice at the end, great job!
Ford trucks are great. Sure the 250 or 350 with a diesel is probably preferred. More power, better mileage and all that. But they have a heavy price tag attached to any shop repair. Routine Maintenance is absolutely critical on them. Having been a Ford tech, I've seen what happens when fuel filters aren't changed when they should be. Better bring your banker when you pick it up.
Best answer in the whole section is "It's what we had." Take what you have and get started!
if you are looking at a ford diesel I would check out powerstrokehelp.com and make sure you are not getting a dud to start with.. 7.3L is best, but older, 6.0L in 07,08 only bulletproffed, and 14 up in the 6.7L diesel. anything else and you need a large billfold FULL of cash..
I know you 6.0 and 6.4 guys are going to dispute that fact but when you listen to a guy that works on them all the time you see why.. bill hewitt at powerstrokehelp site works on fords all the time.
just sayin. and the duramax same thing.. read the issues with what years to avoid costly problems.
Open Minded , Carl Newton is spot on in my opinion. One of the bug reasons Tech's prefer the 6.0 and 7.3 is that the problems they have are workable. They can get into the engine and diag and repair it with confidence and it won't cost a fortune to do it.
Buying a new truck is so dang expensive now that I don't see how folks do it. With a lot of the middle having prices well over $45K it makes more sense to me to look for an older unit with a 6.0 or 7.3. Even if you have to do a complete rebuild to get going, it would likely be cheaper than buying a new unit and the issues that come with the newer engines. This is the route that I am looking at for a tow vehicle.
Are you using a load leveling hitch? I set up one on an older F-150 to tow a 28’ camper and it did not sag with stock suspension.
Yes, the EZ Load weight Dist. hitch. It failed after 18 months. I wouldn't buy it again.
I'm not sure Ford has it on every model year, but I think any of the trucks that boast the 'max-tow' package, with the
additional transmission/oil cooler and the extra radiator cooler, will also have a weight distribution hitch. But not every
auto/truck dealership has sales people who know the difference, and not every truck on Auto Trader includes that info
in the ad, either. Sometimes you just have to look for yourself.
dave from Manchester uk- fantastic vidios please keep up the good work its good to see how other people live , you have a brillent outlook on life good luck enjoy it thanks
I totally agree with Ed Aker... the tip about controlling some sway by applying the Trailer Brake, earned a like and subscribe!
Great truck prep info. I do question your choice of hand model though. She was trying to hog the limelight in every scene. Very unprofessional!!
We spend months negotiating with her agent. We finally agreed on 7 hand appearances, but the editor didn't get the TPS report.
Those finger hands crack me up every time...lol
Really appreciate all of your videos, I have been waiting for this one since you started and it was worth the wait. Love your family.
Thanks Bob!
Guys, we love your channel! Yours is absolutely the best out there. We’ve been watching you for a couple of years now. we love the way your family is so involved. You are great parents. I know this is an older video but just gotta say the hand model thing is hilarious!!! Please bring her back in future episodes. So funny. Keep up the great work. Looking forward to the next one all the time. We’re hoping to retire this summer and get on the road. We’d love to meet up sometime. Stay safe!
But airbags can put too much weight on the rear axle and affect your weight distribution. Your truck should not sagging in the rear if your weight distribution was set up properly.
That hand was just a little creepy lol
i was gonna say it was really creepy at first. lol
“Big truck big RV” channel is also a good resource for bigger trucks and trailer suspension upgrades.
Great video! We've been successfully towing our 30' Keystone Cougar 25RDS with our half-ton Ford F-150 PowerBoost with the max tow package for 3 seasons.
Please take an f-250 for a trial. You won’t go back!
We are actually towing a 25' Keystone Passport with a new 2019 Ford Ranger Lariat 4x4 .. and it is working perfectly. I was worried that the Ranger wouldn't have enough power to tow our RV, but it has actually worked out beautifully. I probably wouldn't tow any larger trailer with it, but for the 25' Passport it really is a very nice fit. We love our new Ford Ranger 4x4 Lariat .. excellent truck!
Thank you two for sharing with us!
Great video! Love the upgrades you made!
Very informative...still laughing at the little hand appearances.😂
I love the little hands!
You guys have a great sense of humor
Love the hand model assistance! LOL!
Thanks so much for posting this! I didn`t know about the mirror extensions. These will be great to have!
Ron, the mirrors are just as important as brakes, I kid you not. My husband found this out the hard way. All we could see was camper!
Doing moves with my open trailer, 11 hours one way. Have an '13 STX with the 5.0. Mirrors have been a pain, now I found this vid, the extensions and have the correct extensions on the way. WOW, thank you! The little hands on the man hands is creepy. Great info on the truck, etc.
My wife and I felt the "HAND" models were fabulous....🤣🖑
LMAO... the hand model! OMG I was cracking up during the whole video. Trish, Thank you. I needed a good laugh.
You guys are killing me!!! ....I'm going to sound redundant BUT lots of excellent information presented in a manner that mixes quality of presentation with just the right mix of humor!!
I love the built in trailer braking system in ford trucks. It will be nice when we get our trailer.
Very impressive truck,good video,I have learned a thing or two,thnx guys
Great comment on trailer brakes and sway! Thanks
That hand model will be in the big times soon. Keep up the good work.
Lol when the hands came out I lost it. Awesome!
Love the hands, too funny. I didn't even know there was a Ford 150 with a 6.2. Very tidy set up.
It's only an option with the Platinum, which is the only reason I got it. I'm not really *that fancy. Key work is that.
LOL. I love the hand modeling!! hilarious!!
Trish has a serious obsession with those little hands that completely cracks me up! #KYD