I called their customer service. They confirmed it was a bad batch of wire cutters. The wire stripper doesn’t need to slice around the sheath of a wire. You dig it in and just pull. They confirmed that as well. For larger wires cut the sheath first with a knife then use the stripper to tug the sheath away.
Lots of “complainers” out there saying this and that about these awesome tools at our disposal. I grew up in a 3rd world country and my handyman dad taught me alot about things and we had to make do with what we had with our wits and hand dexterity.
I like my Leatherman Arc. The magnacut blade makes it very expensive. A dedicated magnacut knife is very expensive alone. I rather have the capabilities of a multitool than just a dedicated knife.
@@randomescui have an old surge and bought a new one. Almost no gap at the old one, big gap on the new one. After changing the cutter blades....gap gone. So it seems this is easy to fix.
@@ichipanx4064 yes. But for my new one (full black) i didnt bought regular cutters, but those for the EOD versions. Flat, no notch. I had to grind some material to fit. These cutters are better for zipties.
The Arcgate draw my attention on my new Surge. And yes, its also flawed! I always wanted EoD Mut cutters, those with no notch at all. I ordered 2 sets from amazon and i equipped on both my Surges. Best cuttera for zipties! For really hard wires, Surge has another cutter behind the pliers head, anyway. It toke me 30-40 minutes to adapt the MUT cutters to Surges.
My wave has the same notch in it. I did send it in a while ago and they replaced the whole plier head so I probably got one of the bad ones also. They did put that new head design on it with the replaceable cutters.
It is designated as wire cutter but as people with engineering experience they would consider putting a wire stripper below the cutter to have faster work flow. Remember that not all wires have same copper content so the other wire stripper is for wires that you dont intend to cut. If you work as an electrician you know what I mean.
I still think they're intended to be that way for wire stripping. In use it's much easier to use the notch in the pliers than using the one on the other implement. Reason being you can cut the insulation then pull the insulation off with one motion
it also hurts ur fingers less and you dont have to get the can opener out when you probably already have the pliers. Only drawback is it is easy to cut too deep but its just a bit of practice.
@@freddykruger3320 yeah takes a bit to consistently strip without going to deep. I also have the swisstech 30 in 1 with 2 plier heads one normal and one for stripping. I also have the old Kline electricians pliers which work well
That could be for small diameter wires. It's more like a new design that is not so good for the wire cutters, I have an army and replace with the older style cutters without the gap.
So, When stripping wire, the "notch" or hole the wire passes through must be appropriate sized. With the leatherman tool, the "tool" designed as "the wire stripper" is only good for small wire. Not #12, #10 etc. If you open the jaws of the pliers, the "hole" between the cutter blades at the bottom enlarges to accommodate a larger diameter wire.. I think that is what people (like me) are referring to the hole between the cutter blades as a "wire stripper".
Thanks! My Garage #5 was the first that Leatherman I had seen these wire cutters. Unfortunately, my biggest gripe with them is no wire stripper I quite often would use the wire cutters on my charge tti+ or p2 as a wire stripper instead of the real wire strippers on the tools, so I wonder if LM redesigned them with that in mind for the #5 / Arc since maybe some other people use them like that too. 🤔
@@hvacbudget8600 damm. Should have guessed leatherman would make a unique one. Just like their stupid bits. I know a lot of people have had problems but personally I like the triangular ones on my gerber centredrive. Because you have the ability to switch between 3 surfaces as you need to. I know not to try to cut something hard and cause them to shatter. Can you machine or grind them to fit?
if it looks like a thing and works like a thing even if leatherman did not know its a thing. now that being said look how much work and time you waist using the the outside striper. its fine if its closed but having to close .... strip... open the pliers. i dont care if they dont list it they should. thanks for the share! stay awesome!
@BitSmythe well I have been using mine since Christmas as my edc with the same cutters with no problems I have cut over 100 wires showing my friends and fam because they were worried after the got it for me for Christmas. It's a waste to you bit as an electrician. It is a bonus feature .
I will never buy a leatherman again.. they are the most expensive multi tool in the world and the quality now is no better than many off brand unknown makes.. Leatherman has gone from great to greedy...
It's something you'd expect from Apple not a huge tool brand with market dominance. I don't know what they were worried about and I don't understand why they did it
I can't imagine paying that kind of money for a plyer that's mediocre at best. I don't understand why they don't improve the tools material besides the knife blade. I never found multi tool knives useful Myself. Leatherman really needs to work on those ridiculous bits. They are to soft.
I'm beginning to suspect that Leatherman uses the reputation of their warranty to cut corners. I've seen _so_ many Leatherman fanboys defend the shortcomings of the ARC by saying, "Don't worry, Leatherman has a great warranty!"
@@Durwood71I own a arc and would tell anyone to just get a p4 or p2. The blade is amazing but overall the two blades on a p4 or p2 will be just as good
@@Ninja-2.0 Too bad the P2 and P4 have been discounted by Leatherman in favor of the ARC. The ARC is a great idea on paper, but it just seems poorly executed and overpriced.
![[DOKKAN BATTLE] August Producer's Letter](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/JUTYpaV_4Ic/mqdefault.jpg)
ARC buyers desperately trying to convince themselves they weren't ripped off.
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Lol, wanted one until I figured out the knife blade is like 80%of the price
I think most people would use that for stripping wire because that’s what the notch on every other pair of wire cutters is for.
I called their customer service. They confirmed it was a bad batch of wire cutters. The wire stripper doesn’t need to slice around the sheath of a wire. You dig it in and just pull. They confirmed that as well. For larger wires cut the sheath first with a knife then use the stripper to tug the sheath away.
Lots of “complainers” out there saying this and that about these awesome tools at our disposal. I grew up in a 3rd world country and my handyman dad taught me alot about things and we had to make do with what we had with our wits and hand dexterity.
Most people buying expensive multitools are just collecting shiny toys. I don't think people even use them most of the time
I like my Leatherman Arc. The magnacut blade makes it very expensive. A dedicated magnacut knife is very expensive alone. I rather have the capabilities of a multitool than just a dedicated knife.
This design allows you to cut wires that are harder than the conventional design, and it also increases durability.
“Works in a pinch…” 😂
It strips wire fairly well!
Loose the Ebonics.
Good joke. Correcting someone's English and then sounding like a clown yourself.😂😂 NICE.
"Loose the Ebonics"
I noticed that the prybar/bottle opener is magnetized on mine which is nice so bottlecaps don't go flying.
That's cool.
Lol that's the rub off from the tool, not done on purpose😂
ive always used it as a wirestripper on most tools i ever owned.
People don’t realize the same notch is on the leatherman surge
On old versions the notch is there but the gap with the pliers head is way smaller. On newer versions is as bad as on the Arc.
@@randomescui have an old surge and bought a new one. Almost no gap at the old one, big gap on the new one. After changing the cutter blades....gap gone. So it seems this is easy to fix.
@@ichipanx4064 yes. But for my new one (full black) i didnt bought regular cutters, but those for the EOD versions. Flat, no notch. I had to grind some material to fit. These cutters are better for zipties.
The Arcgate draw my attention on my new Surge. And yes, its also flawed!
I always wanted EoD Mut cutters, those with no notch at all. I ordered 2 sets from amazon and i equipped on both my Surges. Best cuttera for zipties! For really hard wires, Surge has another cutter behind the pliers head, anyway.
It toke me 30-40 minutes to adapt the MUT cutters to Surges.
My wave has the same notch in it. I did send it in a while ago and they replaced the whole plier head so I probably got one of the bad ones also. They did put that new head design on it with the replaceable cutters.
That's the new cutter design unfortunately.
It is designated as wire cutter but as people with engineering experience they would consider putting a wire stripper below the cutter to have faster work flow. Remember that not all wires have same copper content so the other wire stripper is for wires that you dont intend to cut. If you work as an electrician you know what I mean.
You don't need to close it all the way for it to work and that way you can strip larger gauge wires.
I still think they're intended to be that way for wire stripping. In use it's much easier to use the notch in the pliers than using the one on the other implement. Reason being you can cut the insulation then pull the insulation off with one motion
I have a minie
it also hurts ur fingers less and you dont have to get the can opener out when you probably already have the pliers. Only drawback is it is easy to cut too deep but its just a bit of practice.
@@freddykruger3320 yeah takes a bit to consistently strip without going to deep. I also have the swisstech 30 in 1 with 2 plier heads one normal and one for stripping. I also have the old Kline electricians pliers which work well
It works better than the designated one. I agree.
That could be for small diameter wires. It's more like a new design that is not so good for the wire cutters, I have an army and replace with the older style cutters without the gap.
...arc
So,
When stripping wire, the "notch" or hole the wire passes through must be appropriate sized.
With the leatherman tool, the "tool" designed as "the wire stripper" is only good for small wire. Not #12, #10 etc.
If you open the jaws of the pliers, the "hole" between the cutter blades at the bottom enlarges to accommodate a larger diameter wire..
I think that is what people (like me) are referring to the hole between the cutter blades as a "wire stripper".
What about the part where there shattering
It seems like Leatherman has solved that issue with better heat treatment, but still not a fan of the design.
@@hvacbudget8600 👍🏻
Thanks! My Garage #5 was the first that Leatherman I had seen these wire cutters. Unfortunately, my biggest gripe with them is no wire stripper
I quite often would use the wire cutters on my charge tti+ or p2 as a wire stripper instead of the real wire strippers on the tools, so I wonder if LM redesigned them with that in mind for the #5 / Arc since maybe some other people use them like that too. 🤔
I'm just curious, are the cutters the same shape as a lot of the Chinese wave clones? Because I must have about 20 of them around the place
Unfortunately they are just enough different not to work.
@@hvacbudget8600 damm. Should have guessed leatherman would make a unique one. Just like their stupid bits. I know a lot of people have had problems but personally I like the triangular ones on my gerber centredrive. Because you have the ability to switch between 3 surfaces as you need to. I know not to try to cut something hard and cause them to shatter. Can you machine or grind them to fit?
@@mattyvlietstra5017 Some have done it.
When was the book written. Looks ancient
1898 I think.
@@hvacbudget8600 cool!
👍🏼
*fairly well
if it looks like a thing and works like a thing even if leatherman did not know its a thing. now that being said look how much work and time you waist using the the outside striper. its fine if its closed but having to close .... strip... open the pliers. i dont care if they dont list it they should. thanks for the share! stay awesome!
*WASTE* We’ll ignore the other mistakes…
@BitSmythe well I have been using mine since Christmas as my edc with the same cutters with no problems I have cut over 100 wires showing my friends and fam because they were worried after the got it for me for Christmas. It's a waste to you bit as an electrician. It is a bonus feature .
@@ramsessilent … they *WERE* worried…
@BitSmythe I'm on my phone at work don't have time to be a Grammer nazi but thinks I will fix it for you.
I will never buy a leatherman again.. they are the most expensive multi tool in the world and the quality now is no better than many off brand unknown makes.. Leatherman has gone from great to greedy...
Agreed. I don't see the value over the clones and I prefer a standard 1/4" driver than the propriety leatherman version
It's something you'd expect from Apple not a huge tool brand with market dominance. I don't know what they were worried about and I don't understand why they did it
Victorinox Swiss Tools are the way to go. Superior in every way to anything made by Leatherman.
I can't imagine paying that kind of money for a plyer that's mediocre at best.
I don't understand why they don't improve the tools material besides the knife blade.
I never found multi tool knives useful
Myself.
Leatherman really needs to work on those ridiculous bits. They are to soft.
I'm beginning to suspect that Leatherman uses the reputation of their warranty to cut corners. I've seen _so_ many Leatherman fanboys defend the shortcomings of the ARC by saying, "Don't worry, Leatherman has a great warranty!"
@@Durwood71I own a arc and would tell anyone to just get a p4 or p2.
The blade is amazing but overall the two blades on a p4 or p2 will be just as good
@@Ninja-2.0 Too bad the P2 and P4 have been discounted by Leatherman in favor of the ARC. The ARC is a great idea on paper, but it just seems poorly executed and overpriced.
@Durwood71 Well, that does suck then. They should have at least kept the p4 so people could have a free series at half the cost of the arc
@@Ninja-2.0 There are still P2's and P4's in stock at various shops, but once they sell out, they're gone.
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