The Last Master of Chen Taiji Quan
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- Edited documentary on Chen Village and Grandmaster Chen Xiaowang
www.chenxiaowan...
Presented by INBI World (http;//www.inbiworld.com) and student of Chen Xiaowang - Oleg Cherne (www.olegcherne.ru).
Why is it called the last master? There are three other "grand masters" next to Chen Xiaowang who are all equal in skill and there are about a hundred chen masters underneath them.
Master Chen Xiaowang is one of the best Chen taiji master, and he can explain taiji theories very well. He does have a very unique taiji flavor of his own. It's VERY hard to get out of his qin na. Great taiji presenter and promoter!
what does this mean > It's VERY hard to get out of his qin na?
I think the title Is unfair. He Is not the last máster, there are others now and to come.
Grandmaster Chen stayed in my
house when he came in 1988. He was such a great teacher and we remained good friends ever since. When he would i the roll back arm bar he would place his forearm in the exact elbow spot where the ulnar nerve jump spot was and with the slightest touch you would jump like a bolt of electricity just hit you and you would wind up jumping in the air before he put you down. Fortunately we still have his disciple Ren Guan Yi in the US to carry on the torch of Chen Taijiquan mastery
I think I am very proud of not just being a Chinese but congratulate to grandmaster Chen, he is doing a great job not jus for Chinese but also to Martial arts, to share his extraordinary skill & philospohy of martial arts, he has done his ancestors & us proud.
I think I am very proud of not just being a Chinese but congratulate to garndmaster Chen, he is doing a great job not jus for Chinese but also to Martial arts, to share his extraordinary skill & philospohy of martial arts, he has done his ancestors & us proud.
This video needs to be redone so that the subtitles are up for a consistent period of time. Had to watch the whole thing riding the pause button.
Excellent work, I would love to see the full length feature
Haha Hey Thomas!
I would argue that others, especially Zhu Tian Cai have at least equal level of understanding and skill as Chen Xiao Wang.
He is very good. His brother is also very good!
It's not the last...
I HAVE TO LEARN CHEN'S TAICHI AND GOTO THE VILLAGE BEFORE I DIE, IN MY LIFETIME.
Your title is kind of offensive to The Chen Family. I know it's click bait but you may want to consider that if you ever want to start to learn from them.
Learn what from them? Fancy dances that has 0 applications in a real fight?
@@odgarig8601 exactly lol , i would hit him with so many rights he will be begging for a left hahaha, tai chi is an exercise for old people thats all it is, it lost its combat essence two centuries ago
Zhenglei is a 19th generation descendant of the Chen’s family and a 11th generation direct-line inheritor of Chen’s Taichi, The same is true for Xiaowang. The two of them are part of the 4 tigers of Chen village and were asked to expand their knowledge overseas. However, the Chinese government officials with the decision of different associations have accredited the title of "official inheritor" to Zhenglei but, again, who cares... both are incredible martial artists.
zhenglei is the true gatekeeper even if the village don't like his bookeeping....
it is not misunderstood in fact it is easily understood as you described it, it is about balancing ones energy and finding your center.. it is more then the physicality aspect that is what the beginner only sees.. when we delve deeper into the spirit we realize all things are connected and that one does not even need to physically hit someone to affect them the power of the mind and spirit transcends just the physicality which is just the beginner level of martial arts..
If there’s a last master of any style it means only one thing! Do not pay any money to that person as they have been ripping their students off for years by not teaching them.
Terrible and distracting music for this video
I'm Chinese. Believe me, tai chi, or taijiquan, is really really hard to master. You could visit Chen Village in Henan, China to study the real taichi. After 1 year you may start to understand why.
I once trained with an authentic Chen style teacher, and when he put me in proper stances, and posture in the form, my legs were shaking from the strain; he said level one was properly do the form 1000 times.
@binaryruffian the benefits of tai ji Quan are far greater than physical combat. Once you learn and see what it does for you as a person you won't want to stop.
Lu Wi, you are correct, and yes they are both great masters, but if you didn't really care you wouldn't have pushed the issue in the first place my friend, so let me finalize my correction of you correcting me falsely, there is a reason the title was bestowed upon him, as I stated before Chen Xiaowang is the grandson of Chen Fa Ke, he began learning from his father then uncles and is eldest in age and in the family system, Zhenglei, a great master yes, but great nephew of Fa Ke and Xiaowangs jr.
To those who dont understand the title, the last master of Chen Taiji Quan, Chen Xiaowang is the official inheritor of the Chen family art, therefore he is THE master of Chen Tai Chi of Chen Village, until he names a sucessor.
so the inheritor before xiaowang named xiaowang as his inheritor, as the gatekeeper. him xiiaowang?
Интересное и полезное видео. Обязательно нужен русский перевод.
he is not the last master, there are hundreds of masters in cjg
i studied with his top student ren guan yi for two years and left because of the arrogance and immaturity/ ego that was shown to me. real masters are not ego maniacs who chase their students away because they are insecure about themselves.
this reflects on Chen xiao wong for having students like that that he taught.
i found them to be nasty people not my type at all.
I am interested to know what Ren Guang Yi. Two of the tai chi practitioners near me have been students of his.
“Last?” Say that to Chen Ziqiang.
What I think the title actually means is that "he is the final say."
which means that if you trained with him then , "no one can tell you that you are wrong".
My forms are from Wang Hai Jun a disciple of Chen Zhenglei.
Todo un reto el estilo CHEN. Maestro..!!
This guy is good, and perhaps he is the best but he is NOT the last master, you also have to remember his brother chen Xiao Xing, and Chen Zhen Lei!!
btw, the tin-yang ideas that are propounded in Taoism certainly do play a role in the internal martial arts, because Taoism is embedded in Chinese culture; that goes without saying. My concern lies with internal arts teachers who put a "new age" Taoist spin on the internal arts, without imparting real skill. They like to talk about "chi" as an etheriel thing
what's with the x factor music
At 1:37 he slaps the kidney to drop the front man. This is Dim Mak.
How can be Chen Xiaowang called "The Last Master of Chen Taiji Quan" when higher generation(18 or 10the gen.when count from Chen Wangting) of grandmasters is still alive? And there are many his brothers in his generation? I hope he is not the last one :-) This is nothing against Mr.Chen, I also know him personally and I am the same generation as him, but call him such nickname is violation of wushu tradition.
I saw many westeners practice taichi, but most of them didn't really get the core of taichi phylosophy. To beginners of Taichi, you may start to understand Taichi by thinking it as a phylosophy of circles/balls/roundness. All your movements as if you are holding balls, even if you are doing Zhanzhuang, you can imagine yourself 'sitting' with your chest and stomach next to a huge ball while holding another ball in your hands
@VivanteWesternreiten for advertisement. the lat ime i heard of him he is part of the four diamonds of chen village. there are others in the chen family (numerous) guess he gets the most publicity
Смените название! Какой нафиг the last??
The last master oh look 10 more on youtube ;)
What if I see flying elephants and I learn from it and vow to do the best for mankind with the lessons I have learned? Can that be debunked? The answer is no, because it goes beyond being correct or incorrect.
He is the "latest" MASTER of Chen Taiji...
Not the LAST
I think it's right to accept him as being the latest one coz he is the chairman of the Chen Village. In any real traditional style of arts, there can be only one "MASTER" who is the top of the school and accepted by all members over there.
Nowadays, there are a very large of group of masters appointed by themselves or their own students. That is not the real culture and does not comply with the rules initiated by the ancestor of the art.
All masters want to b higher and higher instead of being humble like what rules intentionally want the members to be.
The art has changed to many forms and does not maintain the real art according to the first Grand Master because of the lust of many masters.
This is true in every famous art which attracts students and then end with money and fame of masters.
I accept Chen Xiaowang as a MASTER but the rest I consider them just instructors. MASTER has a lot of duties to do to preserve the art and the school.
Instructors get money and grade the students for certificates in return. But MASTER has to be responsible for the behavior of his students whether they do good things or bad things by using the art.
In the ancient age, there was only a MASTER for a school.
Before the MASTER passed away, the next one had been appointed in form of a deed. That one must be the best selected student of the existing MASTER.
The last or just the more recent?
@TheEidolon7 you should be careful to not getting overwhelmed by your sensations, physics allows you to do a great many things, no need to go "beyond it" to explain what a true master does (and I've felt one ;-)). To exaggerate a bit, it's not because you hallucinate about flying elephants that they actually exist, if you see my point...
Not the 'last' but the 'most recent high master'
@luwi1384 Wrong! The current head of Chen Tai Chi is Chen Xaiowang, Chen Fa Ke's direct grandson and 11th generation Chen Tai Chi Master, Chen Zhenglei is 19th generation, get your facts straight....
but he not use round path...
#COMMENT82
@VivanteWesternreiten I think it's a way to promoto him :)
Lu Wi, that's Chinese right? So how is it you know nothing of Chinese family/martial etiquette and structure?
Wrong, the OFFICIAL inheritor is Grandmaster Chen Zheng Lei (Zhenglei), but seriously, who cares? Xiaowang is part of the remaining great ones.
+jonnyblaze777 No, I think you are missing my point. You are bringing your definition of what a master "should be" to the discussion based on your own Christian theology. Who says that's what a Tai Chi master should be besides you, though? Also, Tai Chi is a Taoist art, not a Buddhist art. I'm not sure what your former master "worshiped," as I don't know him, but I have met very few Chinese masters who "worship" anything. The term master has to do with level of mastery of the fighting skills of Taiji, not the level of mastery of personal insecurities. Granted, through kung fu films and novels there has been a strong ideal of such associated with masters, but 1) it's an oversimplification of things, 2) it's an ideal. By your logic, Christ should be ashamed because all sorts of pedophiles, charlatans and thieves claim him as their master. I have yet to meet a priest or preacher who did not have his own issues. Does that mean Christ wasn't really a master?
Despite the common understanding, the term Master is a measure of one's technique, or gong fu in Chinese. A master chef is not necessarily a wise ascetic anymore than a master martial artist is. I'm afraid you're projecting your conceptions of mastery onto your former teacher. Being good at taiji can help one philosophically, but the two are hardly the same. Further, one bad apple does not make a bad bunch. If it did, Christianity is just as suspect as Chen Taiji. Lastly, education is a business
Seems very healthy at 64
maybe should I go back to practice better than writing any opinion there... It seems I need more practice... Let's shut up, stand up and study. As for me.
1 - He's not the last master of Chen taiji.
2 - He learned the performance form instead of the traditional form.
3 - I stopped watching after I saw the lack of research in this video.
Could you please elaborate on tje topic of this performance form he learned? I am honestly really interrsted in this topic.
He learned a form that isn't applicable to combat, like all of Chen village tai chi.
@@quangngy you know nothing
@@quangngy the form is not the form, the form is and excuse to set your mind in a state, the movements in combat will be natural for you and spontaneous
Baloney! Why do people try to add a "secret mystery sauce" to the internal martial arts. It's a physical discipline with a strong psychological component. want to learn an internal art, correctly? Find a really good teacher, practice hard, and stay as far away as you can from anyone who starts talking about Taoism, "chi", etc. etc. in a way that leads you to believe that they have "special knowledge" of a mysterious ingredient. Those teachers are looking for followers, not students.
Continue practice and stop looking for masters on RUclips. Where is really the Tai Chi Form on these vids?
really thats cool how much did he charge you for that seminar?? im sure you paid a pretty penny for him to be"nice"...lol
Very misleading. At least 1000 practitioners in the U.S. And some of them are even women! And there are a bunch of masters left.
No offense to Chen Xiaowang but you obviously haven’t met Chenyu.
A master without doubt. But why the obvious b.s. demonstrations such as the one @ 1:24? Not one of the demonstrators is exerting any force whatsoever. I really hate those type of demos, does not do any justice to the art and perhaps adds to the pseudo-mystique that keeps people from taking traditional martial arts seriously by would-be practitioners.
every body is a bruss lee now
REn guan yi revealed to me his immaturity and insecurity as well why else would he feel threatened by me which he did... I did not understand why until Christ saved me years later and I saw what a true master is.. this is why these guys are not true masters as they have not reached that level and may never get there at all...
Masters do not put people down they raise them up and have no fear of elevating others as that only makes them rise higher. real masters know this.
that is all I need say
Ren Guan Yi is one of his top guys so his behavior reflects on him teacher Chen Xiao Wong for these reasons I see them as low level.
When I was sick Jesus Christ helped me that is why i regard him as the TRue Father and these guys are not...
the claim to be buddhist but act egotistical and materialistic.
Guan Yi used to demand 3 months pay at a time $360 and he tried to raise the price to $400.
true teachers care more about the art then money..
I am glad Ren did what he did .. i found the true1
that is not the point at all. the point is that these guys project that they are masters and teachers but deep down are insecure if they were stable they would not be full of ego and need to put down others to secure their feelings about themselves.. what Ren Guan Yi did was to disgrace the whole art and his Sifu as well...
Having beheld the presence of Christ I know why these guys are considered false masters, they pray to Buddha who is supposed to teach lack of ego yet most are full of ego.
the guy bowing before him as if he is a God......hahaha
awful music.