Chen Xiaowang Explosive Demo from 2003
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- Опубликовано: 26 апр 2008
- I was in Washington D.C. for a workshop with Grandmaster Chen Xiaowang when he did this demo at a tournament being held at the same location. A great demo of fajing. More cool videos at www.kungfu4u.com
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I love how the form goes from slow soft movements to fast powerfull strikes in the end.
A life time of work,,,,,we will see very few like him in our time,,,,,
Awesome, this is truly a master for obvious reason ...
cheers and tnc for posting!
Chen Xiaowang is absolutely amazing. I'm learning Yang at the moment. Lineage from early Yang Cheng Fu (before he started expanding into the Large frame) and it still has some of the obvious Chen influences (minus the overt fajin).
However, I once I am truly proficient in Yang, I need to learn Chen as well. The ultimate combination for my body.
Amazing. So grateful to be able to watch and see this humble and kindhearted master. Thank you for making this video available on RUclips, wow, he his the direct holder of the Chen lineage, and I cherish these opportunities.
@kungfukennyg: Thank you for posting this! I just love it:! I could use this as one of my demos too 'cuase it is short. He was doing the first ten forms from the Old Frame First Routine and followed it with the last section or the New Frame (Cannon Fist) or forms 55 to 71. Enjoyed it very much. By the way his son use the same thing in his demo also.
He's just showing the style of force or fajing used in tai chi. As he puts it, it's just the same body mechanics that are used in doing the movements slowly, but he says you "put on the gas." It's nothing mysterious, just the result of good instruction, correct movement and many years of practice. :)
I've seen so many videos of him, every one of them truly inspiring. What a master. Thanks for posting, it's an excellent clip.
stars twinkle in the night sky above us. the city lights veil their splendor. still, they do not diminish. they merely sparkle, because that is their nature.
Truly the physical manifestation of Taoism. Slow/soft and hard/fast. Amazing.
knocked my teacher into a fence (and broke it) standing on one foot. this man really is what is said of him.
Fajing takes years to even get it at the beginning level. But worth it. Also checkout one of the other 4 gems of Chenjiagou, Master Zhu Tiancai.
Whats so cool? This is the 19th gereration lineage holder of Chen family Tai Chi.
Soo nice.
Indeed. And, it's refreshing to see really good commentary on his skill set. CXW is an amazing specimen; his lineage and determination to be the best, in addition to great physical gifts make him one of the most - if not the most - gifted Chinese Internal Martial Art practitioner in existence. I'm not schooled in Hsing-i or Baqua. Is there someone of CXW's sheer talent in those two martial forms. Who do people point to when they talk about the true contemporary Hsing-i or Baqua greats?
Legend!
Yes, it's quite an athletic style. It is done slowly at times but also designed for martial art, so it is also done explosively at times. It depends on what you want from it at the moment.
Phenomenal power and control...
Great!
@kungfukennyg Thank you for your views, and for your candid expression of them. I happen to agree with you. After two decades in the arts, it still makes me sad to see how much dis-information there is in the community, such as it were. The biggest campiagn i seem to wage is gently telling my freinds the truth about what they see in the movies. Thankfully, they dont watch ER and think they are doctors, (but this HAS happened.)
I do not take karate or tiger but was taught similar strikes in ninjutsu, I am more relaxed than the karate guys and believe in hand sensitiviy, rooting, push hands, sticking . however in a fight we need to pack a wallup,which i supplemented the internal with weights & bag work. I taiji pushed a karate champ. he just went back a little and came forward like a beast. He could take my non lethal shots & I could take less of his eventhough I deflected 85%. endurance, power, pain tolerance help.
It's said that the Grandmaster could flick someone at a pressure point and instantly knock them off their feet. I do not doubt it one bit.
EXCELENT
You have my utmost respect.
@tweek1133 Tweek Master Wong is a student of CXW-there may be a question about how long he studies under him but he did study with him, thats a fact. CXW actually lived in Adelaide for a short time in the -90's........
The only people I know of teaching Chen style in Adelaide are Master Wong & Master Leong :)
what a bad ass, i can just feel it watching him
@halgorithm Depending upon the person, that's entirely possible. I trained with Master Wu Shi-zheng (one of GM Hong Jun-sheng's students) and he could bounce me when I first started training with him about 3 meters. 6 months later, it was less than a meter under his tutelage. It's not much a flick as a push, using your own body against you.
@bwstripessam
It has nothing to do with organs if you're a little slow.
It is merely a transfer of kinetic energy from tendon to muscle from multiple muscle-tendon groups.
Don't be confused. Traditional Chen TaiJi Quan uses Chi flow and Yin and Yan philosophy. Chen XiaoWang uses Chi in his teaching. Sinking the Chi to the Dan Tien, things like that.
this dude is insanely good
I've trained with him a few times.
@kungfukennyg I totally agree with this statement. Many people adhere to misinformation to the detriment of the Classical Arts.
vERY NICE cHEN xIAOWONG
@kungfukennyg where does this power come from, body mechanics, chi, rooting, kwa?
@guitarfetish342 If you have to ask, then you've never been exploded
@pa1019123 if a chinese master is stomping their foot, have the power to root, yeild and whip their hands, does that mean that they can take a hit or deal with the flurries of a good boxer who is the opposite of rooting, light on their feet? I think that wing chun footwork and deflections and the shaolin type conditioning would work, including the internal they do, because it is mixed with external too. internal alone, I don't know I never real hit one and they never really tried to hit me.
This video shows the spiraling accumulation of whatever it is that a Chen Taiji master is deploying. People don't seem to like the word qi or chi but I would not like to be on the receiving end of what the master is putting out in the second part of the form he is demonstrating.
So Chen Xiao Wang is actually not demonstrating Fajing in this video. He first is demonstrating the subtle energies within the Chen forms. He then at the end is demonstrating Cannon Fist which is an advanced from of Chen Taiji that is not well known. Otherwise always great to see Chen Xiao Wang in action.
what to you see him in person fajin diesnt film well due to the low frame rate. incredible what he can do and hes a generous man and to us Chen practitioners our hero
I think he has homes in Australia and perhaps the U.S. He travels the world and may come near you sometime to teach a workshop. His website is his name as one word and then dot com. RUclips won't let me put a link in this reply. The site usually have a list of upcoming appearances if you click on Workshops.
@kungfukennyg thanks well I have seen some of this type of power, the frustration comes from lack of finding a good teacher. If I had the opertunity to train in Chen again and they were good, I would do it too. But I need skills now in this violent world until the internal developes. for instance they say Yang is the best but not for today, when Chen maybe better, that's why others will train in krav maga instead of water down baqua. Good luck with your training
Hi! I'm interested in doing qigong and/or tai chi (not exactly sure about the distinction between them) but don't really know where to start. I am aware there has been much degradation in seen in many modern forms that are called 'tai chi' and would like to avoid such things.
There happens a local academy (yin yang tai chi academy) founded by Master Wong Kuan-Yew who says he was a student and friend of Chen Xiaowang.
Does this sound legit?
Thanks :)
ps this is an amazing demonstration
@kungfukennyg True Namaste to you brother, and take heart there are others out there gently telling the truth about the Art with wisdom, benevolence, compassion and courage. Plus.. I wish I had sifus' fajin. ;)
If Chen style Tai Chi means external, he's very good. Alas, Tai Chi is internal!
Correct.Been there,tried that.
is this the chen style taichi from shenmue?
Graceful, powerful and beautiful.
Chen Taijiquan is obviously harder than the Yang style!
I trained with him as well, very very powerful, never get in a wrist lock with him u want to hit the floor lol
Chen Village, China...south of Xi'an
Where is Chen Xiao Wang live and teach?
The funny part is he's 142 years young.
@kungfukennyg I didn't see the clip yet but I wil today. see the karate guy was in kukashin ryu (mas oyama) and when I did a strike,he said we can strike eyes and throats too.look up kukashin on you tube.(bad spelling) He showed me how to dislocate a jaw hinge with a strike and their power is external. he asked me why I like that mysterious stuff, qi? My doubt of internal power comes from this experience, someone may claim that they can break an arm, explode organs,but can they really?
Argh. I envy his control.
@kungfukennyg Chi is not a myth, but it has been mystified needlessly. I do Tai-Chi and am also a western trained doctor (Chiropractor). Chi, is a very broad label used to describe phenomena. You write about internal mechanics and the transference of kinetic energy, but that is a form of chi. So is blood, nerve impulses, hormones, etc. There are also qualities labeled 'chi' that we've not be able to measure yet. Being practical is important, but I wouldn't throw out the broad concept of chi.
Why there's differrent in details with my teacher teaching?
My teacher is 5th dan under Master ChuTianCai.
@kungfukennyg Chi is just energy, there's nothing mystical about it. I don't know where people get that from. I see it as a form of energy/power generation through breathing.
the technique involved in that level of fajing is really not easy to master
I would call any man and or woman who at there age with that much poise balance grace and still having speed and power yea i would call them master. Belts are to hold the pants up :D and i bow to all who pratice any form of martial arts.
TheKannonFist is korrekt. This is perfektion.
love!
maybe this man is good, but it doesn't mean he will teach you it. I am not a MMA though I follow the philosophy of absorb what is useful. Not everyone can have bruce's speed and power, so his method could actually be dangerous for others. I asked a sifu I was paying, about the dantein and he said what is dantein, later that week I found articles he wrote about it for the taij magizine. He was chinese and taught under Joe chen. I also met another who said you don't need chi gung or meditatio
@kungfukennyg I trained with a chinese master who was a discipe of Joseph Chen, direct relative of chen founder and I do not have faith in them or their system. there was a chinese master that coudn't be pushed and bruce said I may not be able to push him, but I bet i can knock him out and he did on hong kong tv.
When we look at the master's level, Chen's and Yang's Taichi are so much alike. While the beginners seem do far away different. Solute to Master Chen, he shows what the Chen's Taichi is supposed to be.
If one get punched by one of his canon fists at full force, one will die from severe internal injury. I'm not joking.
@kungfukennyg I really wanted to learn the internal arts, but am disapointed in what I have experienced by more than one teacher or the system was more like a dance and less for self defense. I am not an expert. I have a blackbelt in ninjutsu, did a weekend seminar with Ted wong, JKD, did 2/ 3rds of wing chun and learned all of the forms of Fu baqua and became disillusioned with it. I don't make my vids to public because I just put one on my site and it is a discussion on martial arts.
The "original form" are you kidding?
So was it the snake or the eagle that you think did the stomping?
Hard to see this as an internal style when it is so "hard" & external.
Would make a great commercial for old man dancing shoes.
Is this guy the direct descendant of some famous Shao Li n monk or is he a Chinese Republic stooge?
@kungfukennyg I heard that the most effective art is baqua and old yang style taij. I did fu style under a student of bow sim mark and they are a push hands and forms judge in Berkley CA. I was told Fu was very rare and effective, there was an article in inside kung fu that this founder founght all other styles like Bloodsport movie. Fu zen zong? in real life i felt less able to defend myself against a large crazy kickboxer on meth that my sister was dating. I perfer Uchei ryu & clawing .
If you are learning with these Chen's Taichi masters and lucky, probably they will tell you a bit of how to hurt people using the slow moves in Taichi. Taichi is truly designed for fighting and killing.
@FortLauderdaleAcu LOL
Interesting. Taichi can be good.
do you know ren guanyi?
It takes sooooo long to learn correctly. Looks explosive enough but feels like a cannon ball not a fist.
swimming on dry land, telling children that gold colored leaves are golden coins. I did fu style baqua and it isn't effective. Let me get into this position first and make sure that my way is the way.
nice dancing, organized despair
This looks more like a commercial for fancy dancing shoes,.
Sure, he stomps so loud, but there is no stomping in Tai Chi.
Why is this called tai Chi instead of Old Man Dancing Slowly and Clumsily?