I ended up chopping the frame on my 1987 GMC 7000 to shorten it. This video helped convince me. Great work! I'm trying to decide between a flatbed or just a cab/chassis for towing. Mine will be more for work than show/fun, but it has been a fun build.
I plan on at least towing a trailer with mine gotta be able to pick up more projects somehow. Great to hear that yours in underway, in someways a flatbed might be more useful.
It was my first plan, but the frame tapers and I would have had to put a different set of hangers and leaf springs. And did not have the budget in 2020 to make that happen
I just watched this,,while I’m looking for a nice c50-60 to use as a company truck, and I’m hoping you’re putting in a traditional flatbed! The whole pickup bed thing looks funny. Like a weird kids toy that doesn’t look right for some reason. Anyway- I’ll be watching. Hope it’s a cool vintage flatbed! 💯💪🏽
Looking forward to more c50 videos Roy, can't believe I missed this one. Damn, you got guts, you can do anything with whatever you have at the tiny garage
Having done a few frames, what you did is nice. I would have rolled the axle forward and redrill the holes. If I was stretching the frame I would then cut it and at the frame splices would have a cross member and possibly double plated. That's a great truck you're working on. Enjoy
I have shortened two trucks and lengthened one truck, they were all used on my farm and hauled heavy loads for many years, I cut 2 and welded back together, I plated the inside of the frames using pieces of the cut out sections never had an issue the other truck I removed the rivets and slid everything forward and drilled new holes and boltted everything back together with grade 8 bolts that worked fine too but was a lot more work. If it was my truck I would plate the inside of the frame just for piece of mind.
I was lucky to find it. I’m thankful I did say I was going to get it. (originally I wasn’t…). love driving it around. I swear people recognize it here a bit too well.
@@RoyMarkosGarageRMG please never get rid of it and don't let it go to some idiot when you pass on to car heaven! That is the truck that should never be wasted or put in a junkyard! Please keep posting videos this is the kind of content I enjoy!
@@carsoncolemanbm4 I will. My next step in repairing the box and the rear end. It’s a labour of love. Someone will get it, (after a very long time) and I’ll haunt them if they don’t!
Why not cut the rivets, move forward, drill new holes, re- bolt axle, and chop off the back. No worries about bad welds, one side being longer than the other causing it to run dog legged down the road.
The way the frame is shaped at the back where the spring hangers go, it wouldn't allow me to slide it forward on the frame, with some cross measuring got the frame straight with no dog tracking. Would an explanation video help?
I had a 1968 C50. It was one of the best driving trucks I have owned. With the short wheelbase it was very easy to maneuver even without power steering. It was the local water truck from our town. I cut the tank off and put a flat bed on it
Easy enough to sandwich a set of plates on each side bolted in to regain what was loss. I would attempt to put a pickup style bed on it instead of a flat bed. That big cab with a bed behind it would look sweet.
exelente camión Chevrolet Delos años 60tas . Lindo modelo este .un amigo tuvo uno de estos mismos en los años 90 tas lo usaba para trasladar madera y troncos es una exelente máquina está estable y firme no se bien cuál era su capacidad de carga pero cargaba lo suficiente para trabajos de campo y traslado de animales en sectores rurales me parece genial que los sigan restaurando y arreglando mecánicamente estos vehículos clásicos de trabajo son geniales siempre.chevrolet historia por muchas décadas exelentes vehículos siempre .además de este hermoso camión la camioneta Silverado de los años 70tas y años 80 tas es mi vehículo favorito y obio este camión icono de Chevrolet eso saludos desde chile y felicitaciones por conservar estos camiones de Chevrolet eso
Can i suggest that next time you do this, use a framing speed square for marking your lines? Also, measure four times once you think you're ready to cut, then right before you cut, measure again. I would also suggest plating over the welds, either inside or outside the frame and boxing the frame as well. Especially important on a heavy frame like that.
I didn’t cut my frame, I removed the rivets from the leaf spring hangers, slid everything forward and then re-drilled and bolted the leaf spring hangers, then cut the excess frame off the back
@@RoyMarkosGarageRMG I thought so, the past year or so, I’ve got to work/communicate with quite a few of your countrymen, I’ve gotten to where I can recognize the accent pretty well.
Dude, the shadow from your beard made it look like you were wearing a boom mic, and I thought, "Okay Sham-WOW, let's see what ya got. I love the C30s and 50s. I have a 68 C10. so I'm kind of partial to this gen C series.
im hoping it'll be easy to do on my 93 e350 van its 138 inch wheel base and i want to put a 1950 chrysler newyorker (125.5 inch wheel base) on its frame for a fun pulling rig
Curious what kind of wheels you got on there. They don't look like the original. I've got one with the center split rims and probably need to replace at some point but there don't seem to be many options.
hey for inspection it is better to move forward than to cut, anything after the rear wheels they don't really care but before they care a lot XD. awesome truck mate.
So far so good, it was my second choice but the easiest and it drives really well, I do want to box that 20" section of the frame. Thanks for stopping by
It way easier moving axles forward. Me and gramps put a bed on the truck to find the axels locations placement, once done we popped the rivets and got it done
It was an option, except I would have had to find different spring hangers because of the shape of the frame. But that was the preferred method that I originally wanted to do.
No there is no template, so when I went to cut it, I didn't have any information. If you watch more on my boxing the truckI give more information about the length.
Personally, I wouldn’t cut it because you can always get a flatbed that’s that long and that extra space in the front you could have a toolbox an extra tank a.k.a. a barrel and those trucks are relatively cheap on diesel if you get the diesel engine because it’s hell if you need gasoline.
I know this comment is 4yrs. late, but wouldn't it have been easier and stronger to drill new holes for the spring to frame mounts, cut the rivets out and then move the whole spring/axle assembly forward? Anyway, lovely job and truck. I don't seen any updates on it in a couple years. Any chance there's more videos for it coming?
I am not sure of the c50 frame, but most heavy/medium duty trucks have high-strength steel that should not be welded to..you might want to do some research on that. You might need to rivet it back together. I just put my cab on a dodge motorhome chassis, the widow-maker wheels were not ok.. Truck looks great with the short wheel base. Nice project.
I did my research, and it's not uncommon for frames to be lengthened or shortened, in my case, the truck will never see heavy duty use. I still have a few more things to do on it, but I appreciate the comment and also I am looking to change the wheels. Thanks for watching more on the c50 to come.
@@RoyMarkosGarageRMG I have a e450 and it still has a mild steel frame. I don't know what the C50 has. Welding on them will create cracks over time is what I recall. Most people double wall the weld area and not just but weld like I think you've done. The frame is overkill in your case most likely so yeah probably ok. Look forward to more videos, thanks!
Everyone: Why did you shorten it? Roy: Because I can :) Also, I wouldn't drive anything that I welded together :). I have some man skills but I wouldn't trust my life to most of them.
Why cut the frame in the middle when you could of slide the rear end forward then cut the tail off the frame that's a little more work than it needed to be but that's my thoughts nice rig
Can't believe you didn't use the cut out sections to double over the welds. That's kinda S.O.P. for frame resections. Still time to do it before you put the bed on it.
@@RoyMarkosGarageRMG thanks for info . it was on property that i bought . sat for 12 years , changed carb and cleaned points , got it running ! drove it home with no brakes , took 1 gallon for 5 miles ! lol . lots of rust but its big and cool .
I got the idea from a kit you buy to shorten a long box chassis into a short box chassis and they make those templates to cut the frame in that fashion, but I could have done an angle. In the update #7, I explain more on why I did this the way I did.
I have 66 chevy c 50 dump truck in Georgia I like it but no one I find want to help me to continue enjoying it I keep insurance tag every year hoping I can enjoying it again I'm heritages from my father husband both deceased
Always use a straight edge as a guide when cutting a frame. Also your gaps are way too wide. You will have to pour a ton of filler wire in to fill them. If it were me I would also use an inner section of frame rail at the weld joint. Can never bring myself to cut a frame. I just move the rear axle up and redrill the holes then cut it to the length I need. Everyone does it different so I am not downing what you did or how. Little body work and some paint you will have a nice ride.
Seeing spots, seriously. Don't you use a screen to shoot your welding jobs? I had to cover my phone screen with my hand. I'll say though I like the concept of shortening the frame. Now I want to do this, add a leveling kit and turn it into a four wheel drive after turning the rear end into a single axle. It would make a great hunting truck. Hmmmmm, maybe a cab over? Definitely a GM vehicle.
Sorry I did not use a filter back then, if I do welding in the future I'll remember that =) If you are looking to do the build you are talking about, drop the cab on a 4X4 chassis.
The crossmember wasn't needed after shortening it, and I wasn't planning on fishplating the chassis because it creates a rust point, but I may consider boxing that section for strength if needed.
The frame rail has a different shape at the back so I wouldn't have been able to use the stock hangers. Would have cost more money and taken more time, I would have loved to have done it that way
I agree with you, this was a had to after several weeks of consultation with others. I don't plan to haul anything heavy, and the most would be in the bed of the truck.
the frame will never be the same moving axle forward would be stronger .. not,, to say,, your welds,, or fab work .. not strong... but.. its correct to move axle forward..
@@RoyMarkosGarageRMG Not great or terrible on the insurance. You are required by the insurance company to have commercial insurance regardless of how it will be used, but my liability, and uninsured motorist is around $360 a year from progressive. I have a multi-policy discount because I have 2 motorcycles and around 5 cars with them, but you can expect around $400 per year even without those discounts. I also have a spotless record and I am almost 60... if you are hanging onto your license by a fingernail due to tickets.... well there are many things that can drive that price up. :)
@@RoyMarkosGarageRMG What you have made here is basically the cab part of a tractor trailer rig. That is why I suggested to just put a 5th wheel on it. The easiest way to make money with it is to make a 2 deck car hauler , and contract with car dealers to haul cars. A flat lower level with a drop down upper level will allow you to load 4-6 cars depending on length. dealers buy several cars at auction, and they have to get them home somehow. Optionally, you could leave a cargo box for people to pack to move their house, and just pick it up and deliver it to be unloaded. Mine is strickly for personal use / non-commercial. :)
I ended up chopping the frame on my 1987 GMC 7000 to shorten it. This video helped convince me. Great work! I'm trying to decide between a flatbed or just a cab/chassis for towing. Mine will be more for work than show/fun, but it has been a fun build.
I plan on at least towing a trailer with mine gotta be able to pick up more projects somehow. Great to hear that yours in underway, in someways a flatbed might be more useful.
And cooler.. the flatbed I mean.
Amazing beautiful project. How long was the wheelbase and what the new wheelbase length.
Beautiful old survivor hope you get many more years of enjoyment out of it
Excellent build! What a truck!
I love this truck. thank you very much.
Outstanding work! I’m planning a build in the next 2-3 years and now i want to do a chop !
I'm just wondering why you did not move the spring hangers for word and cut it off the back
It was my first plan, but the frame tapers and I would have had to put a different set of hangers and leaf springs. And did not have the budget in 2020 to make that happen
I just watched this,,while I’m looking for a nice c50-60 to use as a company truck, and I’m hoping you’re putting in a traditional flatbed! The whole pickup bed thing looks funny. Like a weird kids toy that doesn’t look right for some reason. Anyway- I’ll be watching. Hope it’s a cool vintage flatbed! 💯💪🏽
Looking forward to more c50 videos Roy, can't believe I missed this one. Damn, you got guts, you can do anything with whatever you have at the tiny garage
Thanks Matthew, there will be more.
Great job keep up the great work
Just found this video and it is magnificent any more updates will be great.
There are more, I have a c50 playlist for all of them
Thank you for making my day
thank you for watching
why didt you move the rear axle forward and cut frame behind axel
Looks good. I really want to jump to the end to see the finished product, but I will watch in order.
Thank you, fun build, still a work in progress.
Having done a few frames, what you did is nice. I would have rolled the axle forward and redrill the holes. If I was stretching the frame I would then cut it and at the frame splices would have a cross member and possibly double plated. That's a great truck you're working on. Enjoy
I would have rolled the axel ahead too, but the design of the frame I would have had to use different leaf springs and hangers.
Man you're brave, nicely done. Keep these coming.
Thanks you, I will continue with the C50, was great to learn (see the next couple of videos for more of why I did what I did)
Sweet project!
I have shortened two trucks and lengthened one truck, they were all used on my farm and hauled heavy loads for many years, I cut 2 and welded back together, I plated the inside of the frames using pieces of the cut out sections never had an issue the other truck I removed the rivets and slid everything forward and drilled new holes and boltted everything back together with grade 8 bolts that worked fine too but was a lot more work. If it was my truck I would plate the inside of the frame just for piece of mind.
Thanks for the comment, and sharing what you did on your trucks, and I still have more to do on mine.
Thank you for the information in this video .. just starting out with this kinda stuff ...
you’re welcome. happy to help out. best of luck on your car projects.
That’s coming along really nice! Looking forward to the next video.
Yes, thanks, and one is one its way
Are you going to install a dully bed?
I’m just installing a regular 8’ box, and building some dually fenders
Beautiful truck brother one of my dream vehicles to own!!!
I was lucky to find it. I’m thankful I did say I was going to get it. (originally I wasn’t…). love driving it around. I swear people recognize it here a bit too well.
@@RoyMarkosGarageRMG please never get rid of it and don't let it go to some idiot when you pass on to car heaven! That is the truck that should never be wasted or put in a junkyard! Please keep posting videos this is the kind of content I enjoy!
@@carsoncolemanbm4 I will. My next step in repairing the box and the rear end. It’s a labour of love. Someone will get it, (after a very long time) and I’ll haunt them if they don’t!
it will look great shorten
Yes it does
Hello sir! Where did you get the wheels ? What size are you running ?
Those came on the truck and they are 20" with the split rims. I need to find different ones.
Why not cut the rivets, move forward, drill new holes, re- bolt axle, and chop off the back. No worries about bad welds, one side being longer than the other causing it to run dog legged down the road.
The way the frame is shaped at the back where the spring hangers go, it wouldn't allow me to slide it forward on the frame, with some cross measuring got the frame straight with no dog tracking. Would an explanation video help?
looking really good here Roy
Thanks, I'm having a good time with this
I had a 1968 C50. It was one of the best driving trucks I have owned. With the short wheelbase it was very easy to maneuver even without power steering. It was the local water truck from our town. I cut the tank off and put a flat bed on it
I quite enjoy driving my truck too. Thanks for watching
I love this truck!
it's a fun truck
Awesome video
thanks. appreciate you watching.
You should have just moved the tear end forward and cut the back of rails off. It would have been easier and stronger
I agree, but I didn't need the strength of what the truck was built for, it's now just a half ton.
Easy enough to sandwich a set of plates on each side bolted in to regain what was loss. I would attempt to put a pickup style bed on it instead of a flat bed. That big cab with a bed behind it would look sweet.
exelente camión Chevrolet Delos años 60tas . Lindo modelo este .un amigo tuvo uno de estos mismos en los años 90 tas lo usaba para trasladar madera y troncos es una exelente máquina está estable y firme no se bien cuál era su capacidad de carga pero cargaba lo suficiente para trabajos de campo y traslado de animales en sectores rurales me parece genial que los sigan restaurando y arreglando mecánicamente estos vehículos clásicos de trabajo son geniales siempre.chevrolet historia por muchas décadas exelentes vehículos siempre .además de este hermoso camión la camioneta Silverado de los años 70tas y años 80 tas es mi vehículo favorito y obio este camión icono de Chevrolet eso saludos desde chile y felicitaciones por conservar estos camiones de Chevrolet eso
thank you for you're video
you're welcome
It’s just metal if someone really wanted to they could return it back to stock and nobody would notice.
I bought a 1973 Ford f-700 5- ton DUMP truck 361/5 spd manual trans with 2 spd rear air brakes using the DUMP truck on the farm
Very cool
Yep I know the answer now, good job Roy
That was an experience let me tell you! Though in the next one I do explain more of my reasoning.
Just subbed like your work
Welcome, follow along and feel free to comment =)
looking forward to the next video, looking really good.
Yes, I have a couple more, and also one upcoming soon.
I'm about to buy a 75 c60 and I wanna do the same thing so thank you for the vid
You're welcome, and good luck on your project and love to see a video on it.
Yeah we shortened a 65 ford on the farm pulling wagons and stuff its very nice we bobbed it like a moble home toter
Sounds good
I'm getting ready to do exactly what you just did. Thanks for info. Hadn't figured out the drive shaft yet. I have two trucks 68 and 74 c50 and c60.
Are you trying to put a truck box on the back? Cool, would love to see them
Look for a bit of an explanation on my next video
Can i suggest that next time you do this, use a framing speed square for marking your lines? Also, measure four times once you think you're ready to cut, then right before you cut, measure again. I would also suggest plating over the welds, either inside or outside the frame and boxing the frame as well. Especially important on a heavy frame like that.
what a beast!
Yes, and a lot of fun
I’m going to shorten an 85 GMC C7000. Thanks for the info keep up the good work. 👍
Good luck, and send a video or post it, love to see it.
No globes wow
If by globes you mean tail lights, they went on when the box went on.
@@RoyMarkosGarageRMG Globes in your hands .
@@jessziur4928 In my experience, when I wear gloves, I've got them caught in things and hurt myself with them.
I can’t wait to see the bubble gum you used. Bet it looks as good as the layout and execution.
Cherry favoured grey
Awesome truck!!!
Thank you Bryce
Listen to that harbor freight welder spatter!!!
Very cool brother 😎
I didn’t cut my frame, I removed the rivets from the leaf spring hangers, slid everything forward and then re-drilled and bolted the leaf spring hangers, then cut the excess frame off the back
that’s originally what I wanted to do, but would have had to get different leaf spring hangers the way my frame was designed.
veri good for proyect
Yes, it's still being worked on.
Damm you are the Man!!
Thanks so much =)
Are you in Canada?
Yes I am.
@@RoyMarkosGarageRMG I thought so, the past year or so, I’ve got to work/communicate with quite a few of your countrymen, I’ve gotten to where I can recognize the accent pretty well.
looking very good, bit nervous when you took out the plasma cutter, but well done.
I felt nervous too, but it seems to be working out well.
That is looking good. Smart thinking about the driveshaft, saved you some work there. 👍
Yes I really put a lot of thought about it, before I cut it.
I'm a bit paranoid, so I would have added some plating on the insides of the frame for reinforcement. That's just me.
I am wanting to box that 14" long section, should be done in 2022 so watch for the video.
Dude, the shadow from your beard made it look like you were wearing a boom mic, and I thought, "Okay Sham-WOW, let's see what ya got. I love the C30s and 50s. I have a 68 C10. so I'm kind of partial to this gen C series.
It's my favourite era of Gm trucks
Better plate over those welds….
I plan to plate them over soon.
Cool project! What about moving rear axel forward and cutting rear off? Not sure if bad idea for my project.
im hoping it'll be easy to do on my 93 e350 van its 138 inch wheel base and i want to put a 1950 chrysler newyorker (125.5 inch wheel base) on its frame for a fun pulling rig
Sounds like a fun project and it should be not too bad.
Nice job , planning for the shaft and brake line worked out fine.
yes, it worked out well, thanks.
Curious what kind of wheels you got on there. They don't look like the original. I've got one with the center split rims and probably need to replace at some point but there don't seem to be many options.
It has split wheels, these ones split in the middle, and they need to be replaced, they came on the truck, and l will need to upgrade them
hey for inspection it is better to move forward than to cut, anything after the rear wheels they don't really care but before they care a lot XD. awesome truck mate.
So far so good, it was my second choice but the easiest and it drives really well, I do want to box that 20" section of the frame. Thanks for stopping by
@@RoyMarkosGarageRMG hey got to support where I can, funny enough with my 69 2 ton I want to add length to the frame on mine.
No fish plate ?
No, not yet.
As a woman, I'd say CUT 😏 😉 😜
Cooooooool
Cool Stuff 😎
Thanks
I love it. Thinkin of it on my 69 c50. Wish i had 2 speed rear mines a 350 with the 5 speed Allison auto trans
2 speed rear is a novelty, sometimes I wish I had the automatic myself.
@@RoyMarkosGarageRMG its leaky and has no park. Fwd and rev gears dont help any
I can show ya the oddball stich if your on facebook look up max morter its me with my c50 dump
@@maxmorter503 I'm on facebook as well, and I will look it up
Just had a thought. I may pick up 2 long beds and try to cut and make a xl bed that dumps
Super cool truck! Have to say I was a bit nervous for you when you were moving it while it was just tacked together 😆
Yeah had to move it closer to the house, the breaker in the garage kept blowing.
@@RoyMarkosGarageRMG well you made good tacks obviously! I hate when that happens..... or when the lead barely wont reach!
@@BoostRodeo and hours of editing to hide the swearing after the 20th blown breaker.
@@RoyMarkosGarageRMG 🤣 save those for the outtakes real some day!
It way easier moving axles forward. Me and gramps put a bed on the truck to find the axels locations placement, once done we popped the rivets and got it done
It was an option, except I would have had to find different spring hangers because of the shape of the frame. But that was the preferred method that I originally wanted to do.
What size are your tires? Are you running accuride 28160?
coming along roy. Looks good, is there a template for these?
No there is no template, so when I went to cut it, I didn't have any information. If you watch more on my boxing the truckI give more information about the length.
Personally, I wouldn’t cut it because you can always get a flatbed that’s that long and that extra space in the front you could have a toolbox an extra tank a.k.a. a barrel and those trucks are relatively cheap on diesel if you get the diesel engine because it’s hell if you need gasoline.
Some nice welding there, its starting too really look good
It sure is, thanks, it's a fun truck
getting caught up, starting to look a lot better. Did you shorten it to fit the boxer were there other reasons?
I shortened it because of the box for the most part, because I can tow a car behind and car parts in a box.
I know this comment is 4yrs. late, but wouldn't it have been easier and stronger to drill new holes for the spring to frame mounts, cut the rivets out and then move the whole spring/axle assembly forward? Anyway, lovely job and truck. I don't seen any updates on it in a couple years. Any chance there's more videos for it coming?
I am not sure of the c50 frame, but most heavy/medium duty trucks have high-strength steel that should not be welded to..you might want to do some research on that. You might need to rivet it back together. I just put my cab on a dodge motorhome chassis, the widow-maker wheels were not ok..
Truck looks great with the short wheel base. Nice project.
I did my research, and it's not uncommon for frames to be lengthened or shortened, in my case, the truck will never see heavy duty use. I still have a few more things to do on it, but I appreciate the comment and also I am looking to change the wheels. Thanks for watching more on the c50 to come.
@@RoyMarkosGarageRMG I have a e450 and it still has a mild steel frame. I don't know what the C50 has. Welding on them will create cracks over time is what I recall. Most people double wall the weld area and not just but weld like I think you've done. The frame is overkill in your case most likely so yeah probably ok.
Look forward to more videos, thanks!
Everyone: Why did you shorten it?
Roy: Because I can :)
Also, I wouldn't drive anything that I welded together :).
I have some man skills but I wouldn't trust my life to most of them.
Holding together so far. =)
Why cut the frame in the middle when you could of slide the rear end forward then cut the tail off the frame that's a little more work than it needed to be but that's my thoughts nice rig
Box it in
That is the plan
Can't believe you didn't use the cut out sections to double over the welds. That's kinda S.O.P. for frame resections. Still time to do it before you put the bed on it.
Thanks for the comment, and there is still more to do with this truck.
this is cool , i have a C-50 , with a u haul box . i think its a 69 - 70 . looks like a 327 or 350 ? anybody might know ?
This truck has a 350 in it. You're got a cool truck too.
@@RoyMarkosGarageRMG thanks for info . it was on property that i bought . sat for 12 years , changed carb and cleaned points , got it running ! drove it home with no brakes , took 1 gallon for 5 miles ! lol . lots of rust but its big and cool .
@@marcchaffee7751 yes much the same story here, hadn't run in years and I got it for $300. Love this Truck
@@RoyMarkosGarageRMG ya , im a ford guy mostly but im kinda growing a boner for this truck . lol .
should you have angled that lap instead of keeping teh cuts square and horizontal??
I got the idea from a kit you buy to shorten a long box chassis into a short box chassis and they make those templates to cut the frame in that fashion, but I could have done an angle. In the update #7, I explain more on why I did this the way I did.
Well. I’d say you should have spent as much time laying it out with more then a soap stone then you did talking about it.
I have 66 chevy c 50 dump truck in Georgia I like it but no one I find want to help me to continue enjoying it I keep insurance tag every year hoping I can enjoying it again I'm heritages from my father husband both deceased
Always use a straight edge as a guide when cutting a frame. Also your gaps are way too wide. You will have to pour a ton of filler wire in to fill them. If it were me I would also use an inner section of frame rail at the weld joint. Can never bring myself to cut a frame. I just move the rear axle up and redrill the holes then cut it to the length I need. Everyone does it different so I am not downing what you did or how. Little body work and some paint you will have a nice ride.
Seeing spots, seriously. Don't you use a screen to shoot your welding jobs? I had to cover my phone screen with my hand. I'll say though I like the concept of shortening the frame. Now I want to do this, add a leveling kit and turn it into a four wheel drive after turning the rear end into a single axle. It would make a great hunting truck. Hmmmmm, maybe a cab over? Definitely a GM vehicle.
Sorry I did not use a filter back then, if I do welding in the future I'll remember that =) If you are looking to do the build you are talking about, drop the cab on a 4X4 chassis.
Are you cutting it really short
I cut it 44 and a half inches
You should have moved the suspension forward and taken the length from the rear.
Was my first plan, but the frame tapers and I would have had to put a different set of hangers and leaf springs.
What you're not going to play to on the inside and bolt it in there and strengthen it up plus put the crossmember back in that should say plate
The crossmember wasn't needed after shortening it, and I wasn't planning on fishplating the chassis because it creates a rust point, but I may consider boxing that section for strength if needed.
Burn the rivets off and knock em out next time I would think would be easier but it is what it is.
something to think about down the road
Why not move wheels forward cut back frame no wield
The frame rail has a different shape at the back so I wouldn't have been able to use the stock hangers. Would have cost more money and taken more time, I would have loved to have done it that way
Slide the axle forward....
NEVER cut unless you have to.Of course if you never haul a heavy load it will not matter.
I agree with you, this was a had to after several weeks of consultation with others. I don't plan to haul anything heavy, and the most would be in the bed of the truck.
Stubby Bob's big brother
Yeah kind of.
my DUMP truck is factory shorten
Those trucks could be ordered in all different length
He said the inward
how short are you going just a cab and 5th WHEEL nice cab
Yes, just something fun and unique and small, I was able to get a box for it, so it's coming along well
the frame will never be the same moving axle forward would be stronger .. not,, to say,, your welds,, or fab work .. not strong... but.. its correct to move axle forward..
Yes I agree with you, the c channel gets narrower by 2" at the hanger. Thanks for the comment.
This new setup just needs a 5th wheel... everything else is trailers... box trailer, car carrier, whatever.
I put a truck box on the next update (update #6) I believe.
@@RoyMarkosGarageRMG I've got an old uhaul with a 30 foot box. I just put the cars in the cargo box.
@@barking.dog.productions1777 That's cool, I would really love to have a u haul like that, but the insurance would probably kill me on that one.
@@RoyMarkosGarageRMG Not great or terrible on the insurance. You are required by the insurance company to have commercial insurance regardless of how it will be used, but my liability, and uninsured motorist is around $360 a year from progressive. I have a multi-policy discount because I have 2 motorcycles and around 5 cars with them, but you can expect around $400 per year even without those discounts.
I also have a spotless record and I am almost 60... if you are hanging onto your license by a fingernail due to tickets.... well there are many things that can drive that price up. :)
@@RoyMarkosGarageRMG What you have made here is basically the cab part of a tractor trailer rig. That is why I suggested to just put a 5th wheel on it. The easiest way to make money with it is to make a 2 deck car hauler , and contract with car dealers to haul cars. A flat lower level with a drop down upper level will allow you to load 4-6 cars depending on length. dealers buy several cars at auction, and they have to get them home somehow. Optionally, you could leave a cargo box for people to pack to move their house, and just pick it up and deliver it to be unloaded. Mine is strickly for personal use / non-commercial. :)
You can cut from the back and do not cut it in 1/2
Personally I blame squirrels
Yes =)
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