FIRE PUNCH - The Pain Of Living Analysis
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This video has been in the making for a few months now, had a few microphone issues but overall, i'm happy with the outcome. Wanted to speak about Fire Punch for a while now, with it's younger brother Chainsaw Man getting an anime and Mappa's interest in animation more Tatsuki Fujimoto what better time than now to speak about it?
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Music used in order:
Selection Menu - Twilight Princess
In Your Belief - Asura's Wrath
Option - Asura's Wrath
Midna's Theme - Twilight Princess
Symphony No.9 from 'The New World' 4nd Movement - Asura's Wrath
Palace of Twilight - Twilight Princess
NOX AETERNA - Final Fantasy XV
Aerith's Theme - Final Fantasy VII Remake
Sound of Snow Falling - Rurouni Kenshin Trust and Betrayal
The Farthest Land (Reprise) - Shadow Of The Colossus
Zurawie - Cyberpunk 2077/Edgerunners
Authentic Sky - Tekken 4
For Whose Sake - Yakuza
Feels Like Summer - Childish Gambino (Cover) Stan Tayler ( • "Feels Like Summer" - ... )
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A great manga that I'll never ever read again
Not mad at you
I thought csm was messed up, turns out Fire punch exists 💀
I read the manga like 5 times!!! My fav manga ever ❤
Me asf
I kept rereading trying to figure out every meaning. Now its my favorite manga ever. I got goosebumps realizing how well constructed this masterpiece is. Tatsuki Fujimoto is a genius
Togata is one of the most memorable characters ever for me
Hands down, they were probably my favorite character and I was sad to see them go.
Just to add a little info about Doma. He also said that education is important because he took his moral from a class B movie that he watched. So he burned a whole village because he wanted to be like a hero from a bad movie. And when he realizes what he have done is when he quit the military of behemdrog. And it's "funny" because Agni is doing the same thing, being the hero of the film of togata.
There are so many parallels between Agni and Doma in this story, it's hard to miss
The day Mappa adapts Fire Punch I will be a very happy/depressed man all over again.
Apparently they've expressed interest in animating his "other works" and idk what else they'd be talking about if not Fire Punch. I doubt they'd do his one shots
@@xxrapidfirexx08 The CEO of Mappa, Manabu ohtsuka said he wants to make all of Fujimoto's works in-house, which includes Fire Punch. So we might get the adaptation of his popular short series as well as Fire Punch.
@@hangry3102 oh god no we're gonna see cgi fire the entire time
@@yea9725 You have no clue what you're talking about
@@hangry3102it’ll definitely be censored tho like there is no way it won’t
One thing you didnt mention is how Agni literally let Doma kill his own children. If Doma hadn't set him of fire that day, his children would still be ok. Agni's actions were purely aggresive towards Doma, but the flames HE STARTED, now burning Agni, were the ones to end his kids' lives.
I feel so dumb not to have thought about that..🤦🏿♂️
@@ancutaradu7957 HE LITERALLY SAID THIS VERBATIM. Look man, ill give you the benefit of the doubt, but he literally says half way through the video that “The same flames that had taken everything away from agni took everything away from doma” if thats not what you are saying or trying to say, idk what is
doma wouldnt have even helped those childrens if not for agni. doma clearly only cared about himself, cuz he saw that all of his children are dead and still tried to defend himself.
@@dougman1067 dougman, maybe you dont understand human principle, but humans, even the ones we label “selfless” are selfish. People are only selfless because they feel the need to be, which makes that a selfish desire. Everything in the end comes from a desire, and those desires in the end come from you, so everything you do is ultimately for yourself, and not for others. Doma obviously cared for those children because it was the only thing that allowed him to believe that he was on a path of redemption, it was the only way he could live without full pain of the actions he has committed. In the end, doma ended up doing something we can label as “good” or moral, and thats what is important. Not the emotions behind it, because what meaning does that hold to the children? None. None whatsoever, if anything, the children would prefer if Doma would abandon his guilt.
@@colbiashimaru yeah but the desire to redeem yourself is gone after that and he would have nothing to live for it he really did care
From what I interperted from Togata's dialougue was that he wanted to transition and live as a man, supported by that line about going through gender affirming surgery.
Also one of Fugimoto's one shots (When I Woke Up, I had Become a Girl" Disease) has a similar character, the mc in that story has the body of a girl but his self perception and identity are of a male. So I think its a very likely possibility that Togata is a trans man. That "Big sister is fine" line seems like Togata getting tired of explaining his situation to Agni, who do be a dumb dumb.
But eh, these are all my thoughts. I had a period of time where I was going through gender dysphoria but I'm not trans so I can't really approach Togata's character from that lens.
this is also supported my "Bat Man" who says Togata is a man in their heart.
fr, it can get exhaustive to feel like you're going against everyone's perception of yourself, idk that's what i feel when i think about Togata's gender dysphoria
Yes that big sister part, feels like he got kinda annoyed/disappointed that Agni dint fully understood, what he was actually going through and he only tried to "fix" the situation in a superficial way
I think its more like he really wanted to transition but because of his blessing it was impossible, so they relegated themselves to just being a woman but was disgusted by is every day.
Once Judah commits to becoming a tree, and giving life to Neneto and Agni, two things could happen. 1. Agni says no to life, and Judah is condemned to eternity of emptiness. 2. Agni says yes to life, and they meet a happy end, justifying all of the pain and tragedy of their lives.
Its also great because due to them completely forgetting everything they were they are able to, for the first time, actually be their true selves. Having the characters they both played lost to time
> they meet a happy end, justifying all of the pain and tragedy of their lives
I can see the logic/why people reach that conclusion, but I will never understand how it can truly be called a "happy end". Or how a brief moment like that makes everything else that came before acceptable.
-talking about fire punch
-good editing
-30+ min plus video
-video essay
-45 seconds in and has Asura's Wrath music
You my good sir have earned a new subscriber with only 45 seconds
I read 20 chapters of fire punch in one sitting and got a headache at how chaotic it was. I decided to read 60 more chapters to finish it up today. I’ll never be the same what the fuck did I just read.
That is literally the same reaction I had the moment I finished the final chapter
a bit more info on Togata. Togata definitely is a trans man. I understand why a lot of people would be confused and not be sure whether its the case, but it is. The reason why togata refuses that agni treat them as a man and instead says "big sister's fine" is because togata is suffering very intense physical dysphoria and has kind of a "imposter syndrome". Basically he doesnt feel "worthy" to be called a man because he can't physically transition ( because of his regenerative powers ), so he finds it less painful to not transition at all. Its actually something a lot of trans people have to struggle with since medical transition is very difficult to access. For some people (not all btw), social transition without medical transition intensifies the discrepancy between your body and your identity, which results in even more severe dysphoria. I think its details like this that makes the trans representation by fujimoto feel so authentic and hit so much harder.
So in the case of Togata, him saying "big sister's fine" is NOT saying he feels better, on the contrary. In fact, the manga makes a parallel (iirc) between the pain of Agni being engulfed in flames and Togata's dysphoria. Yeah its THAT severe
Now that I get to compare my experience with what you present here, I wonder if Togata was drawn to Agni like flames to a moth. They found a way to actually die, and they stay close to it so they get to choose. The way Fujimoto draws their final moment prompts me to it, that they embrace 'death'. Also I realized how smart of him to pair Doma's talk about education with the scenario of him fishing, which calls to the saying "Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime."
Great video! I think your delivery is really good, and the editing while not too complicated, have the taste to match the topic at hand and your tone. Enjoyed your music picks too! 😄
Imagine Agni happy.
I can't
Impossible
Lmao
One must imagine agni happy
I recently just finished reading fire punch and I personally think of it as a manga with no plot indicating what's the purpose of someone in life in a dystopian world , maybe the story was not meant for everyone that's why they say it sucks moreover I really liked the battle scenes and also the ending , the ending shows what an immortal beings point of view and feeling someone's warmth it's like a fever dream
They explain that why the ice witch and Judah look the same is because they were the only original humans left from the old world and that the reason the world was a shithole is because they all left. It doesn’t really explain why Luna looks like that though
I adore Fire Punch! While I think that Chainsaw man is objectively better in terms of its structure and plot consistency, Fire Punch has left a much greater impact. This is a well made analysis and I love the message of living onward despite the cruelness of the world and the flaws us as individuals and collectives have made in the past. Keep up the great work.
For a long time I could not find words to describe the feeling from this story.
It is i think safe from spoilers, as it will give you idea what this story is really all about. And trust me, that's not something easy to explain, not even remotely.
This is a story about love that passes through space and time, ignoring the established norms of morality and foundations. This is a story about the search for oneself, the search for the meaning of continuing to live. At the very beginning of story, Agni was ready to accept death in this world. Such fate seemed as best reward to him, a more suited reward than any other. He just didn't wanted to live..
Only his sister Luna gave him a reason to continue living. She died and he continued to live only for her sake, not for himself. Because she asked him to keep on living. He kept asking himself why she said these words to him, because he did not want to continue living himself, but he felt that if he had given up life, he would have betrayed her life. It wasn't some evil irony, it wasn't some evil tragedy or comedy when he heard these words again, but it was love which returned back to Agni despite all his hardships and suffering.
It was only towards the end of the story when I realized that Agni was not only a name associated with fire, but was also a name associated with agony (Agni-Agony/agonize). There were many dark moments in this story, there was comedy and peace, there was tragedy and pain, but the main thing is that throughout the story, the love of the people he cared about most, and who cared about him - again and again kindled the fire of his life.
And in the end it was not a story about the manipulative power of religion, or about shades of good and evil, it was not a story about cycles of hatred and high social matters even when at first it really seemed like that was the case. All this was just the background of the central idea. That you need to continue to live for the sake of your loved ones no matter what. That Agni's life was full of shit, yet no matter what, he continued to move towards a glimmer of hope, continued to move forward. Continued to live.
LIVE!
God, that was such a dark, tragic and beautiful story of love. Best I've ever seen. Imagine Berserk, but it's actually finished and good. And is only 83 Chapter long. How is that even possible?
Yes, that was Fire Punch.
Just to clarify before you guys gonna be triggered by this last "Punch" line, i am not saying that Berserk is bad. Berserk is good, just not finished and extremely long in the making. Fire Punch on the other hand is as good, but finished and only 83 chapter long with great ending. Somehow.
Fire punch is such a wild experience its so Grotesque and at the same time so human, it really explores how rotten human beings can be sometimes.
Its a really good manga imo
Wasnt Sun (reincarnated Agni) still able to have his regenerative powers, which is why he was still young after the 80 year time skip when Negeto died and he was drifting into space with Luna?
I just stumbled up on this video and i love seeing analysis of fujimotos work and art, especially fire punch. with so many deep topics I think you found the right words for what many can't explain. thank you so much for your time and effort to get into this piece of art. much love from germany!
Just finished fire punch so this is great.
It's so great, i recently finished fire punch and also u uploaded the analysis. Thank u
Judah san ect all look the same because they are close relatives to a race of humans who evolved to use all of the blessings in a free and unhindered way. They are close, but they aren’t fully there.
I can't wait for an anime adaptation of this manga. It needs to happen, it is begging for one
Amazing video! Thank you.
It's the best analysis video on this amazing story so far
Excellent music choice throughout the video.
I'm just hoping mappa to adapt Fire Punch. I still remember I think it was in 2017. I just passed from my college. In all the commotion of doing further studies and a job. My mind was just perplexed at that time. Tired to death. I stopped thinking for sometime. And take a deep breath to give some time for myself. And I went on those sites to search for a manga. And it recommended me 🔥👊.
And boy. Read it in one sweep. So many emotions were in me that time. Couldn't expressed.
Neither I could tell someone to read nor discuss this manga with anyone.
And now... 2022 stands here and not only I could discuss but recommend also to everyone but I don't want to.
I just hope Mappa go for its anime. Raw and brutal and an honest adaptation. 🙏🏽
I'm happy you're alive today to be able to do such. Hope life is much better
I now notice that agni sounds a little like agony, maybe a coincidence?
Agni is also the Sanskrit word for fire don't know if its coincidental
It’s also similar to the Latin root “ignis” which means fire as well
@@shravan1005 def intentional
Really appreciate the shadow of the colossus music
Gotta leave like 10 mins in cuz I haven’t finished but another amazing analysis and great video bro💯
Tatsuki Fujimoto may not be one of my favorite mangakas got god damn are his mangas built different also will you ever do a top 10 manga vid
Really needed a video to confirm my own thoughts about this manga. Thank you
Thanks for making the video, it helped me understand this fever dream of a manga better.
I was mentaly stable before this video.
Dude love your videos.
Chapter 53
Great video, i hope you make a video on the manga jaagaan and the fraguret frogs of desire. Not many are talking about the themes in that manga
amazing video. I just finished reading FP for the first time after reading all of fujimoto's other works. I think he's such a fascinating author
Great analysis!! One thing I noticed which is cool is the the main character's name derives from Hindi/Sanskrit for fire. Cool detail.
The pain of eternitiy
okay so about Togata and gender dysphoria: I have some stuff to add to your words as a trans dude (which to me are not only polite and interesting, but not ignorant at all. It felt respectful to the subject! thx for the time and research at least about Togata's case :D that's some good way to talk abt it.) I rlly suffer from gender dysphoria personally, and I absolutely love what Fujimoto does here. I could genuinely connect with Togata's pain since I suffer because of my physical being, my body shape, genitalia, voice, so much aspects of my physical embodyment that even chromosomes feel off to me somehow personally. Living life as someone who you don't exactly feel you are can REALLY drive someone mad, and this is the best example for the consequences of repressing gender dysphoria (someone else's or your own) I have seen in my entire life, I seriously mean it (and at the same time it's so extreme that it suits the whole narrative and scenario of Fire Punch). I luckily had the privilege to transition physically and it drastically changed my life experience with changes like my voice or face shape, but what pains me the most is that Togata doesn't have that posibility. What if I had no hope for my life? The fact that i could risk everything i had left and change my life for it to get better is what kept me going, I didn't even care anymore if things went wrong because I stopped caring for my life in the first place, I had nothing to lose and I was sadly willing to end my own life, but Togata? Togata will never feel in their own skin because it literally regenerates, neither they can end their own life (it's a terrible idea, but the point is that they were not able to even choose the worst option of all, because they had literally no options). Togata doesn't have a reason to keep going, and my experience at least taught me time just makes it worse and worse. Like I genuinely struggled to keep that to myself, I could only handle one year knowing the truth and keeping it a secret, and that was a fucking wild year because of that. But then Togata kept that to themselves for not one or two years, but one fucking hundred years, jesus christ,, that can drive someone real insane (I know gender dysphoria often is different for everyone that experiences it, but I just feel like Togata had it maybe a bit worse than me, idk.) It feels metaphoric when you see a case that is so extreme, and I like to think of it as a beautiful and well constructed metaphor about life and it's meaning.
That is a slow and painful torture to live in some cases, I'm not even exagerating, you are constantly being tortured by your own thoughts, your body, your shadow, your sound, your existence in this world, everything goes against your own will and you just lose control of a life that was supposed to be YOURS in the first place. theres ways to change that, but having no escape at ALL will drive you insane, just constant and endless suffering is what Togata experienced. (at least movies were an escape fot them, it becomes your most valuable thing when you are so low in life, no wonder why they wanted Doma to die when they all just burned to ashes tbh)
To me, Fujimoto, once again, achieved to tell a beautiful story with an exellent character. Togata is realistically insane, their dysphoria is still realistic, and all of that while living in a very distopic world. They might not be the right character to introduce someone the concept of gender dysphoria, it feels confusing (not surprised since it's Tatsuki Fujimoto we're talking about + I genuinely love when things are confusing, like it gives a lot more room for debate and stuff) buuut nontheless an awesome character to represent the issues that gender dysphoria can cause for those of us who may know more about the subject. Fucking awesome, nice job with the whole analysis!!!
oh also, I don't mean to excuse Togata's bad actions really. Just saying gender dysphoria got wild in this scenario and drove a man insane in this case, but nontheless it's not something forgivable or acceptable, like at all. It's a sad downfall, or like someone said in a video, it's like a car crash you can't look away from happening. What gender dysphoria does to a mf 💀 (joke)
i might have a lot more to say abouth just the whole story because it has so much stuff to talk about and i enjoyed it a lot, but this comment got too long and i don't really have anything else that might not be mentioned or not known to add to the subject, just wanted to add something that might not be really known to the topic for everyone to enjoy it a bit more :) this perspective made the story even better for me!!
Wait is it just me or does Agni kinda sound like Agony😳
Or maybe everyone knows this idk
I also thought of that as well. But also Agni is the God of Flames in Hinduism. My thoughts are just thinking that it was meant to be this way, Agni in agony.
@@paulmarcial7264 oh cool I didn't know that. Thanks for the explanation
She told me to LIVEEEEEEEEE
I started cassually reading fire punch one day around noon, i dont know when i came out of the stupor after finishing the series but it was the next day and i felt like my brain got rinsed with a new unknown liquid and i had a lot to process but i was very happy and horrified
It did actually explain why luna, judah, the ice witch, and san look alike
The way it was explained to my understanding is that before the ice age many if not most humans evolved to a point where they all looked exactly the same, that means everyone looked like luna which stopped all racism and infighting among the human race before ultimately moving to other planets in order to survive. It is also mentioned that these evolved humans are able to use all blessings not just one like the rejects still left on earth
Fujimoto said in an interview that togata bring feminity to the series.
I think Fujimoto want to show that you don't have to be a man to be a hero.
She was straight up evil, she literally manipulated a already unstable agni into committing terrible acts
@@toucanplaythatgame9187 Yeah, but she did stop agni from killing himself at the cost of her life. To her that's what it mean to be a hero.
@@cedricwine I'll split it in the middle and call her/him? both or something else entirely
i think he meant Togata's fake personality brings feminity rather than Togata as a whole, like the concept of a femenine badass director, which Togata was forcing to hide their true personality and identity. I think it works to bring feminity to the series with no issue, but it just feels sad when you learn the truth behind it. I feel he tried to build up this character so he could thet tear it down along with expectations, and therefore surprising while also taking out the reader of their comfort zone in some way.
Togata was Agni's hero regardless of gender, and that's a nice message after all :)
Fire Punch really reminds me of devil man crybaby with the feeling of despair and nihilism with religion being a strong theme in both.
Cool vid
Bro the girl really lived for 1k year and having pucci intention just because want to watch Star Wars 💀
Great vid
incredible, i can't understand How a "small" channel like your's provide such high quality videos while some "high" channel just post some medium video and get a lot of view's. At end i think video quality will always be let's favorabled to the algorithm than high quantity of something that is on hype
(sorry for any english error, english isn't my mother language and my keyboard tries to "correct" the english word's to my language (Brazilian Portuguese) so i can't now what is correct and what isn't)
What part of the carribean are you from?
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Good Video
The first time ive read agni’s name i mistook it for agony
I just can't forgive Doma what about you ? He doesn't deserve forgiveness he ain't even remorseful.
Nothing could ever make me hate you Sun
Do you agree with the interpretation that the entire story was just a hallucination Agni was having while he was burning in the first chapter? I don't but it does make sense. Great video btw
Didn't even know that was a thing
Not first
Live 🔥👊
such a good video
KINO
Live
First
Best way to compare csm and fp is
Csm is the best
Fp is the one and only it's special
What is the bg you are using
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