Ach Hadda There’s a 20 something ep show for it I believe, but the manga (complete) which has 300 chapters is way better. The story starts to grind after the first 200 chapters cuz the author got bored but I’d still recommend you read it all the way for the bat shit insanity that occurs in those final 100 chapters.
@@violightghost8592 lol XD I hope you liked it tho! Well for me personally it motivates me for working out. Getting into the mindset of Kurono always gets me so pumped up. The four simple words, "I will not die", is just so powerful coming from Kurono as he survives all of these gruesome battle. Most of the time anime character would be on the brink of death saying, "I don't want to die" or "please don't kill me", but Kurono's pure willpower to fight on, and be creative in battle, is so fking amazing. His sheer willpower is something I strive to obtain someday - The Will to Survive
Another reason Takashi's story was so sad is that you could see symptoms of the injury (foaming at the mouth) when he's drawing Muscle Rider at school, implying that his teachers paid the young boy no attention. He dies crying for Muscle Rider as he dies, and we can interpret this as a plea for an adult to give him love and tenderness. One of the best aspects of Gantz is seeing Takashi bond with Kaze and grow as a character through his bond with that character. On the final panel, you can see Takashi with his new surrogate parents, Kaze and Mary, and it's one of the best scenes in Gantz.
By contrast you have the character arc of sakurai and his teacher sakata. The midway finds them both trying to use their powers to survive the games and sakata as the main moral guideline for how sakurai would use the power, but it's stripped away when he dies and sakurai is left alone. The breaking point where he starts to become a villain is when his loved one, tonkotsu, is gone and he's only just realized, which leads him down the darkest path of his arc. After a series of horrendous actions he commits against the aliens and up until he's face to face with death, he never realized how pointless that trying to enact vengeance all was until then. He couldn't imagine that the spirit of tonkotsu telling him how wrong he was acting at the time was more than a hallucination based on his current mental state. Only in the visions of the people he's lost asking him to join him when he's moments away from death, does he fully realize that all he really wanted was to be with them again. Oku does an amazing job in conveying these ideas through the expressions of the characters and it makes the story more meaningful because of it.
As someone who hasn't watched or read the anime or manga this completely caught me off guard and I got a bit emotional for a second about the thought of that boy getting eaten but then filled with awesomeness
I loved it too but I remember there being long hiatuses while it was still an ongoing manga series, when the vampires came in it was kinda shitty but I imagine it would be a lot more of an enjoyable read if you could just read it all instead of having to wait.
One very important plot element was missed in an otherwise fantastic video. The people playing Gantz can collect enough points to end the game or they can instead choose to revive one of their dead team members. What's really touching is that a lot of the time people choose to stay in that nightmare "game" if it means they can give someone another shot at life. A few of the times it's for people they don't even know but simply because they themselves were saved and cared for and want to pay that back.
This is a really important point. It really shows how the character grows when you see extremely cynical and selfish people like Kei choose to do something completely selfless, especially when it costs them
This is huge, especially depending on how the characters ended up there. For the characters that were there due to killing themselves and actually enjoyed being in the game due to the community, they were willing to make that sacrifice more easily when they knew the sacrifice others were fighting for (especially in the case of Kato needing to care for his little brother). Ugh, Gantz was such a great manga.
I doubt gantz would explain anything Gantz (the ball) is like >Brings you back from death >Gives you a gimp suit and a toy gun >Reveals the existance of aliens and tell you to kill them >Refuses to elaborate further >Teleport you to a random spot and don't give you any of the rules
Why does the alien giants have the powersuit at the end? It was not explicitly mentioned how. Did the humans give it to them so that they would be on equal footing while the humans massacre the alien warriors?
@@kinnotagolino2825 Here is one thing that dude in a video didn't mention about... Gantz is shounen. Heavily serialized shounen. As long as it makes profit magazine will keep author going. Things like logic is thrown away, deus ex machina works on full steam, plot is building on a principle of "because reasons", series become more and more stupid. And when interest goes away and even most loyal fans start to ask "what the fok is that ?!" magazine calls an author and says "Wrap it up. You have 2 chapters". And that's how Gantz ended after a long way of degeneracy from a good story to a trashy shounen.
I know right! For many years I could not find a good explanation of the purpose of Gantz. Yes, there were some disturbing moments but I wished the animated series continued.
@@kys125 Worse case scenario, it's worth for the read just for the great art style. Since the story is already finished, you can binge it so it will be a way better experience than waiting half a year for a slow arc to wrap up. For me the story took a turn for the worse during the Osaka arc but that was the moment I caught up with all the manga available at the time. I consider the last arc and the last enemy a gigantic dumpster fire. It's 37 manga volumes (383 chapters). I would say it's worth starting Gantz, I wouldn't say it's worth finishing it.
Its nice to know that his investments into CGI software didn't completely go to waste, as it turns out, he does still use it in his Manga, and he incorporates it so well you wouldn't even be able to tell or even cross your mind that, "Oh hey theres some CG in this manga". I love his art, and if the CG stuff is a factor in it, then boy am I glad he put that investment to learn it early on.
in the 2nd half, I saw it on most of all the alien monsters. I respect the hustle and determination to use cgi, but there were several moments were it was a bit jarring. I might have gotten a bit too used to the amazing monster designs of attack on titan; plus I acknowledge he used it still in early 2010's, so that's also commendable. I just don't think it has aged THAT well to say it's unnoticeable.(I especially remember that enormous horn monster with spider leg thing on the water from the Osahka mission, that was probably the most jarring one)
Most of em are killed to one but not limited to, decapitation, getting impaled, killed by indescribable horror, and, possibly suffering other worse deaths I cannot list due to the lack of knowledge I have by not reading the manga.
@@patch-fm for me it's not that disappointing and i really enjoyed it. You should just read it and judge it for yourself, because even though reviews are helpful, it might change the way you enjoy it.
Left the room for like 5 Minutes and when I return I see the words “You are now dead” across my TV screen. For an irrational second I had a mini heart attack.
@@KuraudoSutoraifu7 Actually, the text stays on the screen for about 2-3 seconds. Slim timeframe I admit but that's why I thought it was funny. But if you mean it's at the start of the video, maybe use your head. I left the room and returned to see that text on the screen... So it's safe to say, I had RUclips running. RUclips, if you don't know, plays the next suggested video on its own. Again, if you're talking about the timeframe, it's an unlikely timing, but not impossible. Also, this might be irrelevant, but I wasn't gone for a solid 5 minutes. Could have been 10, 15, or even 20 minutes. Give or take. Hard to say since it was 4 months ago. But believe what you want.
Kind of reminds me of Berserk in terms of the message: even if life seems pointless and cruel and unfair, you can make it worthwhile. You can survive, and you can enjoy it while you're here.
@Romano Coombs Never seen NGE, might check it out. I mean, it has three things I love: violence, robots, and existentialism. I actually think that Berserk really effected my view of the world, in terms of existence, destiny, purpose, etc.
Askr Guts finally met people who made him capable of loving again and managed to keep his rage in check. Guts’ story is very dark but it has some light moments.
@GrabberBythePuss Not really since some animes do have the plot revolve around the same city or life changes that result in them acting differently. Berserk is essentially, how badly can we fck up Guts life before he eventually finds happiness.
... I don't think that's the take away from Berserk, lol. I don't think there's a take away period from Berserk. At least, not yet. It just simply is, y'know. It just exists. Miura is just creating a tale of tragedy and despair. Every time Guts sees a light, it's brutally taken away from him.
I like that Tae and kei relationship started by force, as a joke. But kei eventually falls deep in love with her and I've never seen two lovers trying to find each other so strongly.when Tae is abducted and treated like a pet, she doesn't wait for kei to come and save her. She makes her way out and runs to kei, same thing kei does. I don't know, I'm awere that there are great manga/anime couples, but this one felt the more realistic and passionate to me. I still remember that hug.
@@JBBRDNKS Imma be honest. Liked Biker chick more. The girl who let Kei smash right away. She had the personality I liked AND could fight. Was hoping they'd be the power couple. Tae didn't grip like she did. She was just straight annoying in the final arc.
I wonder if the “come back in a week to deal with something you can’t expect the difficulties of and if you fail it’s all over” is kind of a metaphorical representation of the weekly grind of the manga artist
@@chikipichi5280 I also thought it was random, i think i remember some of them getting caught by surprise when they were being teleported again to the ball room
"no matter how awful or horrifying the world might seem it's our connection with other people that let us survive it and make it worth surviving" I hope everyone remember this, specially in this year. Stay safe, hold on each other.
Kei then said "well back when i was living on my parents farm as a kid they had a dog id let climb in my bed and id hold and kiss him till i fell asleep"
the grandma scene when she tried to protect her grandson fucked me up SO BAD when I read it back in idk, 2010? it's been a while. if I think about too hard I still cry lmao
I respect this manga so much for that alone. Guy is introduced in the new team arc and you expect him to bond with Kurono and then be thrown in the trash like a cheap uncle ben knock-off. But he actually makes it, and... goes on to be one of the central characters of the later arcs. And becomes pals with Kurono. Because at the end it didn't really matter what he looked like, people survive Gantz games with resolve and intelligence alone, the suits making everyone equal in the physical department. I was NOT expecting at all a gore manga like Gantz to treat an elderly man with respect and agency. A lesser story would have killed him in two arcs just to give cheap angst to the other characters.
Rewatching this I found a neat correlation. After Oku was left destitute from writing Zero One he's forced to immediately begin writing Gantz likely weekly to keep himself alive, which mirror's the story of Gantz where after trying to do something they weren't capable of (writing Zero One successfully) they have to fight to stay alive on a weekly basis only to return next week to fight again.
Gantz is nothing but a fierce critic of capitalism, where we are all pit against each other, blacks vs whites, old people vs young, animals vs humans. We are all part of game that's impossible to win. A game where we literally lose our lives just to have one more day of dreadful existence.
I fucking cried at that part I hope they got out of the game but at the sametime I thinking it didn't happen thanks to what SEW said about the series and its outlook on life ;_;
@@OjoRojo40 I wouldn't say that your interpretation is wrong, but I do think you're jumping the gun by thinking Gantz only boils down to a shallow critique of capitalism just because the author was a bit irresponsible with his money.
@@beaniepirates6759 Shallow critic? There is nothing shallow about Oku's critic of capitalism, quite the opposite. And when did I say it only boils to a critique of capitalism? Cheers.
@@OjoRojo40 Im just saying if it is supposed to be a critique of capitalism, it's a pretty surface level one. I say that because the evidence you used to try to assert your point can *barely* be attributed to capitalism and is much more likely to be nihilism and a primal instinct to survive. Also you literally said "Gantz is *nothing* but a fierce critic of capitalism", and even told the other guy "You are wrong, that's totally the messgae", so you really can't blame me for thinking that's all you got from Gantz.
Gantz was a realistic portrayal of how people behave when they are backed into a corner. When they have seen too much combat, or when the feel that they must live for the moment because tomorrow we die.
Gantz was a realistic portrayal of how immoral people behave when they had bad experiences in life. Most people wouldn't have done what Kei did. Why, do you think that rapists, murderers, corrupt politicians, bullies are that way because they're inherently bad people? no, there's always a reason to why bad people are bad, childhood experiences, bad environment, social pressure; the difference between good and bad people are plainly that, whether you let those experiences shape who you are and what you do. If we start to make excuses on how people act because of bad things that happened to them, we have no need for prisons, police or law don't we? Oh, bob just murdered a bunch of people, ah, he's a psycopath, poor him having such mental sickness; Oh, tom is beating the the other kid up with his friends, oh, poor tom, he had a rough life with his drunk parents. So, you see, yeah, realistic? maybe, is that how all people would behave given the circumstances? definitely not.
@@nicoinformatics yup that is the best part about Kei he gradually choose to be a better person and try to build himself something healthy (his relationship with Tae & taking on Kato as a proper role model) and trying to make amends for his bad decisions by being less and less of an asshole
@@nicoinformatics Gantz was a depiction of today world. Those ‘bad’ characters looking the other way when someone was being bullied or raped... well don’t we all do the same ? We don’t care about populations being bombed, we might even scream “democracy” We know of children exploitation in mine minerals yet we happily show off our latest smartphone or laptop... The violence and depravation in the manga were a mirror of human behaviour and social desensitisation.
It reminds me a lot of Berserk. I love this kinda shit that forces us to take a look at how dark reality truly is without projecting our delusional, hopeless-like optimism that can lead to heavy disappointment when met with the harshness of reality. Being awake to the darkness helps us to truly build any kind of positive actions and ethics in order to bring an actual order to the chaos.
I keep coming back to this video. You get it. I remember having to explain it to my wife. Not about this, but about Inuyashiki. I was telling her about some of the stuff that Hiro does, and she’s like “Why would you ever want to read something like this? It just sounds so miserable.” I said, “Yeah. It hurts real bad. But then the heroic moments happen, and that misery is worth it, because you’re filled with hope again. And it’s like, if they can overcome this crazy stuff in the manga, maybe there’s hope for us hurting in real life, too.”
That little four year old has to be one of the most unique characters I've ever seen in some form of media. The only other character who tops him, to me, is Rorschach in Alan Moores' Watchmen.
I don't know if this is right but when reading through Gantz it reminds me of As God wills. Just that Gantz characters are more significant and the ending of it is better and the story comes to a better conclusion compare to As Gods Will.
Hiroya Oku also explained how he invented the technique in the 1980s for depicting boobs as moving in manga too, everyone ended up copying him. He explained it in one of the pages after a chapter of Gantz had finished. The manga was called Hen en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hen_(manga)
I did not know about that CG animation. It looks pretty damn good!!! Is it a movie or a video game? But most importantly: is it worth it? Anyway, great video. Gantz is not perfect but it is one hell of a ride, and its art is nothing short from amazing.
That Kaze and Takashi segment was absolutely amazing. That made me feel more emotions than it should have. Jesus christ Mr. Eyepatch. Your writing is absolutely orgasmic
I might be a year late, but when you were about to talk spoilers I actually wanted to read Gantz and then read the whole thing. I have come back and all I have to say is thank you. Thank you for showing me something great. I hope the best for you.
What make gantz so good: "Oh i love this new character.." next panel: *dead* "You never kill a kind old man right? Right?" some hitler god alien turn him into lump of meat thats gantz to you 👌🏻
What makes it genius though is it establishes that they can and will kill everyone, and slowly create a team of survivors... but you KNOW that any of them could die, and that means the fights are never just 'cool fights'; there's always the real chance of the main characters dying. Several times in some cases.
@@iamthedave3 It's healthy for a story to have no plot armour for anyone. I grew bored of Game of Thrones by the time it reached season 5 as I could figure out everything that was going to happen despite them running out of material from the book. I just knew there would be ridiculous plot armoud for Jon Snow no matter what circumstance he finds himself in. I fucking hate watching most things now, since plots become very obvious what will happen based on the casting. Gantz was constantly exciting. Heck, I felt at any time the cute 4 year old could be killed. I never thought he'd have plot armour. they killed the old man, for chirssakes.
@@scoobydoobydoooo You literally just ruined your own opinion, as your opinion is that plot armor is bad and yet it suffers from very similar problems as not having any plot armor. It doesn't make a show good and can be super detrimental to character development and relationship building between reader and character. This is why I hate comment sections on any platform, its always full of people who never think anything through.
@@Jackboy019 The plan to manufacture them was a human decision, it wouldn't be difficult to teleport the original ball to the human world, and then make them create more
The most striking moment for me in all of Gantz was simple: "Grandma will beat them up for you!" After volumes of this utterly awful, cynical world full of crappy people, there's this sudden moment where a grandma who seemed certain to be a pathetic joke is instead clearly up to speed and pure of heart. Making it clear that the author knows there is good in the world too.
That's honestly what i love most about the author. He keeps his stories horribly dark but juxtapose it with the pure goodness of the human heart instead of making misery for misery's sake *cough cough every hardcore gore/rape heavy seinen ive read*
Haohmaru HL Really, I just started reading today and I love how it was localized. It compliments the short and sweet dialogue with very modern and concise slang.
Gantz and Berserk need a fresh restart and adapt all their mangas into anime. Both are masterpieces on a different level, if done right they destroy competitions instantly, not just on anime level, also in all of fiction.
@@erenjaeger1738 the anime has low quality animation and is short since they just finished the anime in the alien buddha arc, the anime really needs a reboot like hunterxhunter but considering how sensitive the people this days im pretty sure its not gonna happen
For me gantz was all about human nature. When characters were confronted with the game of gantz, they had a huge range of emotions and ideals. Some experienced denial, and tried to simply go home. Some turned to religion for their salvation. Others formed groups and trusted no one else. Some went lone wolf and turned cold to everyone around them. Some turned to anger as their go to emotion. Some tried to be team players and work together. Others just gave up. Some went almost feral and sought to prey upon the other players. That to me was the ultimate message of gantz
Unlike most horrors that show the worst in humanity to be the 'true horror' aspect, Gantz lets the the horror be external in order to highlight the goodness of humanity.
It's a bit contrived, but it absolutely does show how disgusting we are. I think a lot of people simply couldn't handle it and searched for reasons to write it off. What's particularly beautiful is the impact one positive person can make, that said positivity can be fleeting, and that it can be rekindled by other people. There's also the message that, regardless of who we are or where we are from, we're all in this together, experiencing the same joys and sorrows. It is our own arrogance and selfishness that detach us from other people and their joys and sorrows. You have to actually finish the manga (and be somewhat intelligent) to figure it out though. Those who get hung up on all the edge are missing the point, and it's sad.
“There’s this knowledge that neither side actually wants this... That there are forces beyond the control of both that have trapped them in this scenario.” This makes for a seriously accurate analogy far war my man!
That isnt accurate at all, man. Maybe for shit like Vietnam, where a massive media campaign was turned against American soldiers in a brilliant move by the Vietcong, but almost no other war in America's history was viewed that way, and I'd be willing to bet that is so uncommon as to be unheard of throught history. We wanted the revolutionary war. The civil war was a little murky, but the South wanted it for sure. War cant occur without at least one side wanting it. I was about 11 years old when Desert Storm was started because Saddam Hussein attacked Kuwait. I was with my dad when he got deployed and the troops were singing songs about fucking Saddam Hussein in the ass. We didnt want WWII, but the other choice was to let Germany, Italy and Japan rule the world. You could say we wanted them NOT to rule the world. China didnt want Japan butchering millions, but they absolutely wanted Japan out of their country. Your child's view of war and power is never going to be a thing. People want freedom. They want safety. They want hope. If they have to kill someone that is trying to take those things, then they want to fight the war. Even gang wars are about wants, not an unending cycle of violence for the sake of violence. They want territory, they want dominance, they want, they want, they want. If a dude breaks into your house, you might not want to kill him, but you sure as hell want to protect your family, your property, and your own life. Good luck putting daisies in the barrel of some rifles pointed at you. I suspect that will lead to you wanting your wife unmolested and your kids unsold, but you can tell them that you just dont want war, right? "Sorry, honey. Sorry, Jr. I thought War was just two groups of people who dont want to fight. Try not to fight when they hold you down, they dont want you to fight, so I was half right."
The beauty of Kurono is that he starts as the anti-hero. Sure he is the protagonist but you can all see he has no redeeming qualities at the start and don't play saint, most of us in our teenage years were also sex driven, selfish, angsty idiots so I think he was well written in that way for his character, but throughout the manga he becomes loving, a leader, strong and fearful of losing what he has gained: friends and love. Even when he got a real gf, we see his major change, he went from lusting after the big tits supermodel to being truly in love and caring about the ordinary girl that was his gf. In the beginning he was mean to hear saying how she had no boobs or that she was ordinary but as we see little by little her life full of cute stuff and how Kurono learns that not everything is just sex and fucking, there is also love ,tenderness, innocence, he learns to truly fall in love with her to the point of protecting her when the world starts ending. Another beaufitul panel that made me cry was after the dinosaur battle. The team has won, and Kurono runs to his team joyful and happy. We see the huge tits supermodel going to greet him smiling, but Kurono fucking IGNORES HER completely to go to the Old Man (best character) and help him stand up and hug him and THANK him. He ignored a hot model's touch in order to help, hug and thank an old tiny man. That's when I understood, fuck this is a great manga and it actually has character growth. Give it a try, sure the ending becomes pure insanity and there are some plot holes and wtf's, but it's damn good read and the art is worth looking at.
It took me a while, as a young adult reader, to understand that. …… *spoiler alert* Until the hotty clone him and there’s two of him and he even talks to himself and says “Well I guess I’m like that” *somewhat* and that’s when I realized i believed him. Why was he over reacting. He has two Waifus haha but #2’s ending was just as amazing *the ripping apart of a molecular level
@@Yuemitaifr lol i couldnt stand kurono at first. i told my brother (who introduced me to gantz) that this mc is prob the worst mc ive ever seen 😂. but my god his growth as a character was so satisfying to watch.
I'm really surprised it hit me that hard. I kinda pushed it away and forgot about it, but when he mentioned how the boy died it twisted my gut and made my throat seize up.
Lab Matt / underrated but not forgotten. Gantz is one of the best seinen mangas and one of the best pieces of fictional, sci fi story telling. For me, is only second to Berserk in manga and Kurono second favorite protagonist to Guts.
I still remember it to this day. I wanted to buy the manga but it was never released in my country and the imports cost a shit ton of money as they are out of print
benjamin ramsey / if it helps, Gantz is pretty easy to read than most manga just because it has more visual storytelling than actual dialogue. You end up going through chapters surprisingly fast.
For an added detail that might not even be intended (but I assume is because I can), let me point out that during that great four-panel setup at the start of Gantz's third arc, Kurono is able to speak out loud about his desire to go back to the Gantz apartment-because he is alone and can risk his life as much as he likes. Kato, by contrast, can't voice his concerns aloud and has to bottle them up so he doesn't wake up his brother. It's a subtle and potentially unintended extra way to read the different levels of burden and responsibility each character has.
Storyline of Gantz traumatized me as a teen so hard. Sheer existential horror and gruesome deaths of absolutely every single character on every corner, feeling that every character can die at any moment, every love interest, every kind grandma, everyone who said something positive would probably die the most gruesome, detailed death several pages later. And then the reason for Gantz existence, the sheer dread and cosmic horror and helplessness, and then you understand that probably the humanity in general will be destroyed and had absolutely no chance of survival. Its probably one of the most depressing and terrifying mangas to ever exist. Attack on titan wasnt even close to Gantz on that front.
I think that if Gantz was created into a high budget anime with quality marketing like AoT, then AoT wouldn’t have been popular that much years later. It’s rather funny because in Gantz: O Kei Kurono is voiced by Yuki Kaji, who is the voice of Eren Jaeger in AoT.
@@Nirrini yeah, GANTZ had every chance of becoming the next big thing, if only the anime wasn't so bad. The manga had everything AoT had, it was basically the same genre and general setting of "humans fighting with overwhelming existential threat with no obvious way of ever winning, a lot of gore and deaths all around".
Honestly there is so much fucked up shit that happens in gantz that i actually forgot about that dude who escaped gantz before that then went on a "recruitment mission" in the hopes to go back to the gantz room when he dies, after i reread that i was like how did i forget something so extreme with that said though the sequence where kei lost everyone only to instantly be put into yet another mission all by himself without any time to process. with the sole alien survivor of that solo mission actually comes to haunt kei in real life is burned into my mind if only the ending wasn't shit
The thing about gantz is that it made me feel like I was a veteran who lost multiple friends over the series. New characters I just couldn't get attached to
I read the whole manga recently and I almost forgot about that part, when the manga was good, because I was so distracted by the overly long, mediocre final arc :/
I was kinda mad that Gantz made Tae the target (we assume) because she accidentally capture a pic of one of the guy when they did a mission. But after that arc, suddenly everybody can see them during the Dinosaur and Oni arc, and Gantz didn't do shit!
I periodically come back to this video specifically to hear you narrate about the relationship between Tekashi and Kaze as it makes me cry every time. It's genuinely so beautiful of a story and makes me enjoy this story
Takeshi: _"You're not muscle rider! You're a bad guy!!"_ Kaze: _"I am Muscle Rider, i was made from your drawing to protect you"_ *_Seeing how Takeshi got into gantz was heartbreaking_*
But it made it all the sweeter and more touching when you see the big tough karate man start to like the kid and slowly become what amounts to Piccolo and Gohan. The kid was a good kid and found a father who was firm where he needed to be and soft where he needed to be. And he's going to teach him how to grow up into a Tekken character. They were definitely my favorite part of the series aside from Kurono.
@@Pragabond Well, he's not going to grow up to be a Tekken character, more than likely Kaze will teach him martial arts and Kaze will start a family with Takeshi and Mary. A Tekken character implies that he will hate his father due to his dad's repeated attempts to abuse and kill him.
Honestly. This series can get so bleak at times, that's how it felt while reading it. And it made that punch felt so much more rewarding because of that. Eyepatch really sold the hell outta that scene.
The first and only time I read Gantz was when it was being released and when that part in the video happened I was so confused cus I was sure I remembered it differently. Damn, he got me!
After that first spoiler I was furiously scrolling the comments to make sure Takashi didn't die. I want to read Gantz but if Takashi or Kaze end up dying in the series, I'm not gonna try. Somebody spoil me on this ;-;
What I liked the most about Gantz is how Oku portrays the idea that every single human has a reason to live or that it can find one in this life or the other (inside Gantz). Whether that reason is killing (like shinji) protecting others, experiencing the love of others (Kurono), value your life in general, that your life has meaning and a purpose. And so many things taught through a violent world.
Gantz is when isekai is not really isekai, but IRL nightmares. Also, train-san did it before it became popular 😂 LOL Anyway, I am still dreaming about Full Gantz anime remake adaptation.
A full anime adaptation on an anime with that much gore, rape and nudity is almost impossible unless instead of airing on tv, it was published as ova, but since gantz has 360 chapters, to fully adapt it onto anime form it would be at least 130 episodes, and long ovas arent that common because its way too much money invested on something thats not gonna give a fixed amount of money like tv anime does. And considering how the media reacted to the goblin slayer's first episode, imagine how it would react to gantz WHOLE series lmao. But yes... that would truly be a golden experience
Ruvikko They could just keep doing movies like they did with Gantz :O. I mean as soon i heard it was CGI i was like, Fuck here we go Berserk Golden Arc all over again why can't we have a nice adaptation of Gantz, but then i say the trailer and i was amazed, godamm that shit looked amazing, and after seeing i tought the movie was top. I get it that for someone that haven't read the manga they are basically complelty lost. But if they did that from the beggining of the series with the same quality it would be a dream come true. But i don't know how the rape focus of the series would impact the whole thing, but i guess it would be probaly a lot more tamed.
@@VerGiLL1 gantz.O was good but they left out most the story and it's confusing if you've never seen the TV series or read the anime you wouldn't understad what's going on. Like Why was Kato just by himself without Kai? then at the end of gantz.O kato wants to bring back Kei and that makes no sense because it's just a random part taken from the anime without the context of what happened before then. In a way it's like watching the final fight without reading the whole story first. They explain more detail in gantz anime series and the manga...but overall if you've read the manga and watched the anime series then gantz .O is pretty good
@@ruvikko , I think that ONAs are a much more viable route for publishing highly objectionable anime nowadays, as opposed to OVAs. Netflix's Devilman Crybaby was extremely gory and hyper-sexual, but because it was released online rather than on TV they could get away with doing that. Perhaps another online streaming service could attempt to make a comparably dark adaptation and really capture the essence of the manga (I'm aware Netflix already has a Gantz movie which was disappointing to fans of the manga, but perhaps another streaming service could take a shot at this series in the future).
Amidst all the excessive blood and violence in this series, the relationship between Kei and Tae is probably one of the most human, and beautiful things I've ever seen in anime/manga media. No matter how terrible things got, or even the doubts Kei had towards himself or what he may have preferred as his old self in the form of the hot super model that was madly in-love with him. Kei always returned to Tae, as she had become the greatest pillar of strength for him, and became someone he genuinely loved with all his being. I legit cried just about every time he thought he was going to lose her, but then they embrace one another and sobbed. Kei is one of the most incredible anime/manga protagonists in history, because I have never seen a character that I despised so much at the start of the series...become the guy I loved and rooted for around the middle and end. From Zero, to Hero. God bless Kei Kurono and his magnificent display of character development.
Agreed. So many manga try to have the protagonist start out as a shitty person and have them grow through the series, and so often they never end up being any more likable. Kei’s transformation from just another teenage wastoid to someone we genuinely want to see triumph over all of the obstacles in his way.
I just finished reading Gantz a few weeks ago and couldn't agree more with your comment. I absolutely hated Kei from the beginning towards the middle of the Buddha arc, but he changed so so much after loosing so many people that he became an entirely different person. Him meeting the average looking but honest and heartwarming Tae was the very best thing the author could have done. Especially at the end of the chapter "daytime lantern" Kei had become my favorite character of the manga. Their separation in the final arc and their strong desire to reconnect despite an endless amount of life-threatening situations, only made the couple better. Damn, what an amazing manga, you can't experience something like this a second time. Gantz, reset my memories so I can read everything again... but please don't send hot killer vampires after me haha
@@LadyIno We are certainly not the only ones. If you can make a sack of crap that everyone hates, become an amazing person that everyone loves? You're a master craft writer, haha. There are so many good characters in this, but Kei ended up my favorite around, like you stated, Daytime Lantern. That chapter summarizes his entire character beautifully, and you learn that Kato was 100% justified in his reason for idolizing YOUNG Kei. Because he didn't just change to a good person, he reverted to much of his old self while maturing. I heard there is a Gantz prequel taking place in the Feudal era. I'm gonna give it a shot, but like you say, it probably won't catch the magic of this one. And the protagonist probably won't go through such a god tier development trip like Kei did lol
Gantz is my absolute *favourite* manga. It's such a mindfuck, I love it so so much. There are some really really well-written character redemption progressions and high emotional stakes that actually got to me and made me cry haha which a lot of media can't do. I think a lot of people brush it off as simple violence/gore porn. But really, it's such a complex story of love and sacrifice, and the main protagonist's growth into a good and caring person through trauma and loss. The anime could have been so fucking great had they not ended it early, the three arcs that they created directly from the manga were in my opinion very well-executed, and I'd love to see someone else give it another go and see it through to the end.
When I saw the title of this, as someone who's read all of gantz, I was wondering how you would broach the subject of some of the...ugly, for lack of a better word, parts of gantz. I feel you did a really great job informing people about it, and I wholeheartedly agree with your conclusion. Great video, as always
Gantz is one of my favorites, perhaps even my no.1 Seeing Wolf covering its appeal fills me with nostalgia. Mah edgy boi Nishi's ending was disappointing. He was moving on the right path until... Power trip once again.
He never even mentioned the vampires that appear in the story. They're not even aliens like the rest of the creatures are. They are straight up vampires that just appear out of nowhere.
@@halo10001 Gantz is just too huge to cover in video format, really. Cherry, Sakata, Nishi and Reika are other rad characters that go through interesting story arcs. Also, Cherry and Sakata are massively underrated. Everyone always talks about Muscle Rider and Takeshi, but those two have a mentor-student relationship that is just as good IMO.
i think Takeshi's backstory is like one of the first times i've ever cried while reading a manga, yeah, Gantz was one of my starters, and i fucking loved it.
For me it was Cherry. The psychic kid. He started off with nothing, achieved happiness in his life, and then had it all torn away from him for no reason at all.
@@nahoj.2569 the monster is, but the entire chapter was heavily censored. For example, the other team they encountered were full of drug addicts and rapists. There were multiple scenes of rape and drug usage that didn`t make it into the movie.
Of course you made a Gantz video. Once again you've found an obscure thing that I've loved for years and somehow made me love it even more. I can't even describe how much I enjoy these videos. Thank you for everything you do Wolf.
I found Gantz in my school's Library years ago, but they only had the first 3 volumes. I then decided to buy all 37 volumes and every now and again I read through the whole manga all over again. It has everything I love sexy girls, supernatural monsters, and crazy badass fights. It is also one of the best drawn manga which in my opinion is worth owning. I wish we could get the whole series animated like Gantz O because the first anime adaptation doesn't do the series any justice.
@@LonexCyborg Gantz 0 got a positive reception and introduced a lot of new people to the series so I wouldn't be surprised if it gets a sequel in a few years.
@@stayskeptic3923 Pretty much all manga other than Berserk and SnK are obscure where I live unfortunately. I've never met someone who's even heard of Gantz.
I was reading this manga back when it was coming out, and god damn, that Buddha arc made me severely depressed. SPOILERS Enjoying this manga every chapter for years on end, just to have every character wiped out in an unimaginably difficult battle was bruuuutal. I remember I had to take almost a year's break from it back then because I was so distraught with the realization that in our reality no one has plot armour and any of my friends or family could pass away at any moment. This manga is one of my absolute favourites because of how fucked up it was. Absolutely insane story.
I watched the anime up until the end of the kill kurono mission, I assume he killed the hobo hunters but is he the only one who lives? And where does that leave off in the manga?
@@zafiruzoma6234 The final hunt of the anime is only in that adaptation, and the hobo killers don't appear in the manga. In the manga (going light on spoilers here) after the temple, Kei has a solo mission which goes....EXTREMELY badly, and then new supporting cast members arrive and the series takes on a new direction.
I wished more people would have the open mindness of aknowledging their own preferences and comfort zones while also let media be media. Allow the individual to decide what is okay for them and only them and what is not. Much respect for him.
@@DerultimativeOzzy In the same way you have to be open minded enough to understand and accept that other people can't stand certain stuff and they are in the right too when they complain about aspects they dislike.
@@Realag666 ofcourse. Critique is perfectly fine and an important aspect for an artists and the art itself to grow from it. Censorship is what needs to be avoided as much as possible, within reasonable levels. Its been a concerning popular thing nowadays for people to demand media and people to be " hidden" away from the eyes of others because some people do believe they are the arbiters that get to decide what is okay and what isn't.
I have no connection with Gantz nor have I ever cared about it at all, my only experience with it being some clips from a movie a good several years ago. With that in mind, I actually cried watching this video when you got to the Kaze/Takeshi section. I freaking loved that. Unbelievably wholesome stuff from a place I would never expect. Now, I might actually read this series. Well done.
Really resounds, especially with the level of helplessness you're overwhelmed with. Every panel you read, you need to let go of your faves just so you survive their (inevitable) death.
After the third mission this fking manga kept me hanging from a cliff all the way until the end. Fk I wish I could erase my memory and read it again like it was the first time.
Yep, same here. Plp dislike the temple arc but looking back, that was the time gantz set the expetations of just how bad things can get, and that feeling never went away
I've been reading up until ch 101 of this manga and the plot is still repetitive and the mc is still an incel. There's no plot progression at all. Also, the characters in this manga are so bad. Lara croft just likes kei because of course she does. Kishimoto is a piece of sht and kei is the devil. The only character I liked is kato and spoilers He died. There's no reason for me to continue reading this manga because I hate everything and I mean everything about this manga. (Except the art. The art is really good).
"These are not the sportsmanlike showdowns of shonen battle manga. These are like violent emotional car crashes where death is immediate and frequent on both sides." You put into words the reason why every fight in this manga had me on the edge of my seat.
@@alilweeb7684 It's listed as a seinen on animeclick.it (even if they do say it was published on shonen jump), that's my country's most used manga/anime database. P. S. which would be the cringe term? Shonen or seinen, and why that is?
Gantz: O is amazing. I still rewatch it on Netflix. My only complaint is that it features just one scene of Kei Kurono. Granted, the movie is about the Osaka arc. It is still awesome.
The movie is amazing but the "unnecessarily horrible parts" are really what make the story what it is. You can't really watch that movie without context; thats the only reason I'm not recommending it to everybody.
@@BlackJester57 I wouldn't call it a good launching point, but it is what hooked me into reading the manga. It just takes all the horror of the monsters and heroic aspects of the protagonist so it is good to watch if you want a bare bones experience of the story. It is very much its own thing tho so I can understand not recommending it to everyone but I absolutely loved it. Got hella hyped.
I first read Gantz back when I was still at high school. I remember CRYING MY EYES OUT when Kurono's girlfriend died. This manga is really special. So now, while watching this video and you citing some of its most heartwhealming and human moments, I teared up a little. Great job, dude.
Dude . . . Spoiler alert . . . Kurono's girlfriend is what what made Kurino change from a loser to a compassionate human being. At firstbhebhated her but then eventually falls in love with her. It's an amazing contrast too to see Kurono's point of view. When he smashed the girl with the red head and the black long pigtail, he did it in a animalistic way, but when he gets to his girlfriend, he was more human about it. One of the things I appreciate seeing Kurono's character developing from a loser to a pretty good guy. More people fo need to experience the manga in my opinion. The message and character progression, besides the amazing alien art designs, are all some of the best things Gantz have to offer. Even when displaying the over the top controversies. I don't believe it's just for shock value or for the sake of edginess but to display real life horror and to see our characters in those situations change throughout. The story to me has always been about change for the better, strengthening both physically and mentally.
Can I just say that the boss Buddha Alien thing literally employed that video game boss bullshit that everyone absolutely hates, random traps, lackeys that you have to kill to try to keep damage to a minimum only for the boss to use eat them and heal, it’s fast so if you choose heavy armor to try and protect yourself you can’t keep up and if you decide to go with light armor well enjoy the extra damage. This is the type of boss that on your first run through of the game after dying on the 15th retry you employ the old gamer tactic of just nuke the whole room and pray that your armor is strong enough to leave you with at least a sliver of health. My god those people didn’t stand a chance it’s like handing a jrpg to your grandma who only played Pac-Man once.
I think Gantz's battles can be surmised as "some 20 people trying to kill a Dark Souls boss... But only 1 of them has a weapon and none of them have ever played a videogame before, let alone Dark Souls". It's the kind of thing that would be so easy to do on your 10th attempt; but you only have one, so good fucking luck.
@@butterballporkbunthetoymak Well, theres respawning, it just relies on another player doing it for you, and that said other player doesnt die in 20 rounds or so.
@@GreeZisSadge 100 points. There was that otaku guy who fluke sniped a 100 pointer Gatz monster (literally a shape shifting godlike entity) to clear the game (ability to dismiss yourself from missions).
Nearly 2 years later this is still my favorite video essay on the platform. I've watched it many times, and it inspired me to read Gantz cover to back. The message and musical drop at 29:50 has been a staple for me to return to whenever things get rough. Thank you.
I feel like series that cover these dark themes have enough impact to truly convey their messages. Berserk made me reconsider my goals and purpose in life. I feel like if I read gantz I’m gonna get smacked by another wave of inner reflection.
Gantz is a smarter series than it lets on for all it's exploitative moments it also tells the stories of a cast of complex characters who grow and change as the series goes on for better or worse. It's after the third arc that the story really starts to convey that as Koruno has to grow up and develop human connections after everything else is taken from him.
It can honestly be kind of distracting with some of the curveballs it throws at you throughout but it does give some nice reference for self-reflection.
gantz does throw in a lot of gore and shit just for the hell of it compared to berserk which has meaning to things. Gantz does have a lot of cool themes under all that trash tho
@@Jruni Kurono story and any character development lost meaning when the author simply decided to clone him to resolve the love triangle between the nerdy girl that was his true love and the hot chick the author preferred. I can understand why someone who started reading Gantz likes it, but I can't understand why someone who finished the story still likes it. It was just such a clusterfuck by the end, I finished more out of obligation than genuine curiousness.
Best moment in Gantz ever. SPOILER After finishing the most tiring mission yet, most of his team mate got over 100 points, and they all offer up their point to revive all Kei's friend. Thats for me is the moment i decided Gantz is one of the best manga i've ever read
Then they also decide to just let Kurono go and finish the game on their own, so he can be with his lover, even the chick who unconditionally loves him the most. It's fucking crazy how many times this manga took me for a ride lol.
@@Theseus17 Nishi is much more knowledgeable about gantz so kei wants answers and nobody new about the apocalypse among the group except nishi. The tits girl is only a copy at least somewhere she is alive, and as for the tomb girl maybe she is not so important for the plot just character development for kei. In my conclusion he chose the most helpful person among the three.
There is so much to Gantz. I've watched this video so many times, because I literally have no one to talk to about it that don't think it's trash. I genuinely appreciate this. I still have hope for a true adaptation.
This was possibly one of my favourite Manga in the darkest time of my life and that message of connections helping people through the impossible cruelty of the world never really clicked for me until now and it just feels nice :)
Heh, same. It really helped me through a bad spot just because I could always say, "well, however bad I've got it... Still better off than these poor bastards."
"I'm not the arbiter of what is and is not ok in media" Yes! Thank you! Each person need to see/watch things and come to their own interpretation of the meaning of the things.
Honestly I can’t stand mindless violence and the exploitation of sensitive issues just for the sake of shock value, but it works in gantz. It’s a constant reminder that these characters live in a hateful and cruel world and that bad things just happen to people without any particular reason. It’s realistic in a way although exaggerated. There are shit people in this world, and there is no meaningful reason as to why they choose to hurt others.
It doesn't work in Gantz, because there's nothing mindless and exploitative about them in the first place. People complaining about these things are simply incapable of differentiating between purposeful use and cheap shock tricks.
Mistor Di r u serious? Listen I love gantz but there is no way in hell you can argue that every violent or shock value scene is purposeful. Remember when a girl and her 3 rapists got into the game? How is that purposeful? Edit: it’s known that the mangaka focuses on human cruelty, and what makes something truly cruel is how purposeless or sadistic it is. If someone had a “higher” reason for being cruel then it’s not really cruelty
@@kitkatbakery465 What are you trying to argue with? I say it's *narratively* purposeful, it's not just cheap trick to impress the audience, it serves the idea of the story and building the atmosphere. Trust me, I've seen lots of japanese works that outright bask in being shock-porn, and Gantz definitely isn't one of them.
Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable. That fleshy live aspect to shake up stagnation. The grimdark exists because we need to see such things but it's key to remember it's not because the dark snuffs Out the light. We admire that the dying light with all it's might holds back the dark.
@@ishidacoolp I think its cause Kurono started off with a ability to survive, but his harsh personally and nihilistic outlook drove people away despite the fact that he could save them. Meanwhile Kato was just about useless but his charisma made people think of him as a leader, which showcased another terrible aspect of society. As people saw Kuronos ability though, and how useless Kato was (as far as saving them goes), they started relying on him, which forced him to become a leader and care for these people that were coming to him.
...Man. I remember watching some of the Gantz Anime, like at 2AM at night, when I was supposed to wake up early next morning. And I remember sitting in that dark room, with the only source of light being that old TV of mine, watching this bizarre and brutal show... I watched to the beginning of that Buddha fight. And then I just stopped. I never got to know what happened to the team in that one. Now... now I know, huh...
@@umbaupause Lol. I stayed up late when I had school in just 4 hours or so just to catch it. Teen me was blown away by the show. Back then, which cartoons had that level of sex and violence?
@@doyleharken3477 Ha, yeah, it was like a forbidden world back then! Especially due to the fact that it was all in darkness, with the thrill of being caught at any moment. Felt like a stealth mission. But yeah, between that, Standalone Complex and Cowbow Bebop, it was such a wild ride each time I dared. That Pierrot Le Fou episode on Bebop too...
@@rogeliobuy3741 I actually liked the Rome adaptation I just hated the tall aliens plot that was shit. How are that species stronger than the aliens that created the Gantz machines. They can literally tell when you will be rebirthed into the future.
Imagine dying peacefully in your sleep and then waking up in the gantz room lmao
Im putting suit on asap. Then be sad and scared shitless
I'm killing anyone looking at me wrong
You won’t be. It’ll be your clone that did. Though he’d have the same memory as you.
I'd love it
"this post was made by the isekai gang"
Gantz getting some love in 2019????
I love you man
i know right its one of my favorite for the way it drives its characters far beyond the breaking point to become downright superhuman in determination
Gantz is already pretty popular but I hope it somehow breaks to mainstream territory like Jojo did.
@@aboredburrito5010 first time heard of this show, curious is it done as a series or is it infinite ?
Ach Hadda There’s a 20 something ep show for it I believe, but the manga (complete) which has 300 chapters is way better. The story starts to grind after the first 200 chapters cuz the author got bored but I’d still recommend you read it all the way for the bat shit insanity that occurs in those final 100 chapters.
IzanagI - Happy to the love, one of the first manga I read because the ending we got just didn't cut it
Gantz is my favorite manga that I cant recommend to anyone.
Caleb Meilink-Smith Don't worry, I'll try to read it.
@@violightghost8592 I got my friend interested today, I hope he reads the manga!
KingHenryXIII I read it and I'm dead inside.
I might as well watch it too!
@@violightghost8592 lol XD I hope you liked it tho! Well for me personally it motivates me for working out. Getting into the mindset of Kurono always gets me so pumped up. The four simple words, "I will not die", is just so powerful coming from Kurono as he survives all of these gruesome battle. Most of the time anime character would be on the brink of death saying, "I don't want to die" or "please don't kill me", but Kurono's pure willpower to fight on, and be creative in battle, is so fking amazing. His sheer willpower is something I strive to obtain someday - The Will to Survive
Another reason Takashi's story was so sad is that you could see symptoms of the injury (foaming at the mouth) when he's drawing Muscle Rider at school, implying that his teachers paid the young boy no attention. He dies crying for Muscle Rider as he dies, and we can interpret this as a plea for an adult to give him love and tenderness. One of the best aspects of Gantz is seeing Takashi bond with Kaze and grow as a character through his bond with that character. On the final panel, you can see Takashi with his new surrogate parents, Kaze and Mary, and it's one of the best scenes in Gantz.
Word. This was one of the most beautiful moment of the book.
By contrast you have the character arc of sakurai and his teacher sakata. The midway finds them both trying to use their powers to survive the games and sakata as the main moral guideline for how sakurai would use the power, but it's stripped away when he dies and sakurai is left alone. The breaking point where he starts to become a villain is when his loved one, tonkotsu, is gone and he's only just realized, which leads him down the darkest path of his arc. After a series of horrendous actions he commits against the aliens and up until he's face to face with death, he never realized how pointless that trying to enact vengeance all was until then. He couldn't imagine that the spirit of tonkotsu telling him how wrong he was acting at the time was more than a hallucination based on his current mental state. Only in the visions of the people he's lost asking him to join him when he's moments away from death, does he fully realize that all he really wanted was to be with them again. Oku does an amazing job in conveying these ideas through the expressions of the characters and it makes the story more meaningful because of it.
@@Jazzforyoursoull well said
his mom is insane..
she have an aggressive bf and forcing him to met her son..
got beaten everyday is not a child things!
stop child abuse!
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"Takashe is killed"
Me: That's not how remembered it
"Oh wait"
Me: God dammit
"Takashi is killed"
Me: stop lying to these people.
Bro had me in the first half, not gunna lie. lol
*Takeshi
As someone who hasn't watched or read the anime or manga this completely caught me off guard and I got a bit emotional for a second about the thought of that boy getting eaten but then filled with awesomeness
Takashi: slaughters a monster with kung fu at four years old.
Kaze: This boy is my son now.
Never at any point did Gantz stop escalating, and I remember loving every page of it.
I left for months after some characters died. It's a history were you shouldn't not cling to much to anyone!
That ending tho
@@Stupoider I forgave it after awhile. It's about the fun we all had along the way ya know?
I agree who decides to make a second main character.
I loved it too but I remember there being long hiatuses while it was still an ongoing manga series, when the vampires came in it was kinda shitty but I imagine it would be a lot more of an enjoyable read if you could just read it all instead of having to wait.
One very important plot element was missed in an otherwise fantastic video. The people playing Gantz can collect enough points to end the game or they can instead choose to revive one of their dead team members. What's really touching is that a lot of the time people choose to stay in that nightmare "game" if it means they can give someone another shot at life. A few of the times it's for people they don't even know but simply because they themselves were saved and cared for and want to pay that back.
This is a really important point. It really shows how the character grows when you see extremely cynical and selfish people like Kei choose to do something completely selfless, especially when it costs them
This is huge, especially depending on how the characters ended up there. For the characters that were there due to killing themselves and actually enjoyed being in the game due to the community, they were willing to make that sacrifice more easily when they knew the sacrifice others were fighting for (especially in the case of Kato needing to care for his little brother). Ugh, Gantz was such a great manga.
You forgot, there's 3 options, each worth 100 points, Escape the "game", Revive a fallen player, or get a powerful weapon.
Indeed. Especially that Osaka guy
@@animentamaxarius3931 you mean get a sweet ass black katana
plot twist: he isnt talking about how interesting gantz is , you just died and he's introducing you to gantz
yo u creep me out
oh no..
I doubt gantz would explain anything
Gantz (the ball) is like
>Brings you back from death
>Gives you a gimp suit and a toy gun
>Reveals the existance of aliens and tell you to kill them
>Refuses to elaborate further
>Teleport you to a random spot and don't give you any of the rules
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Bold of you to write the opening as if Kei actually wanted to help the homeless man
Was thinking the same thing. Surprised he never brought that up.
This comment made me watch the manga, just finished it.
Why does the alien giants have the powersuit at the end? It was not explicitly mentioned how. Did the humans give it to them so that they would be on equal footing while the humans massacre the alien warriors?
@@kinnotagolino2825 Here is one thing that dude in a video didn't mention about... Gantz is shounen. Heavily serialized shounen. As long as it makes profit magazine will keep author going. Things like logic is thrown away, deus ex machina works on full steam, plot is building on a principle of "because reasons", series become more and more stupid. And when interest goes away and even most loyal fans start to ask "what the fok is that ?!" magazine calls an author and says "Wrap it up. You have 2 chapters". And that's how Gantz ended after a long way of degeneracy from a good story to a trashy shounen.
@@SosiskaTakoSanHow do you feel about Inuyashiki then?
Finally someone saying literally anything about this story.
Right? Fave anime as a kid but then found out how mangas and anime are completely different sometimes. Been meaning to read it since.
@@kys125 the releases were sporadic IMO and the story jumped the shark.
I know right! For many years I could not find a good explanation of the purpose of Gantz. Yes, there were some disturbing moments but I wished the animated series continued.
@@Bustaperizm is it still worth a read and how lengthy is it? I actually sarted it yesterday cause I want to watch this vid ASAP
@@kys125 Worse case scenario, it's worth for the read just for the great art style. Since the story is already finished, you can binge it so it will be a way better experience than waiting half a year for a slow arc to wrap up. For me the story took a turn for the worse during the Osaka arc but that was the moment I caught up with all the manga available at the time. I consider the last arc and the last enemy a gigantic dumpster fire. It's 37 manga volumes (383 chapters). I would say it's worth starting Gantz, I wouldn't say it's worth finishing it.
Out of everything in Gantz the one thing that destroyed me the most was that little boy's story
dorimukurieita the little boy was beaten to death for eating pudding
MUSCLE RIDER
Why was the main characters brother a vampire random question
@@Jr-bn7kc no clue
@@Jr-bn7kc that whole story line was stupid
Its nice to know that his investments into CGI software didn't completely go to waste, as it turns out, he does still use it in his Manga, and he incorporates it so well you wouldn't even be able to tell or even cross your mind that, "Oh hey theres some CG in this manga". I love his art, and if the CG stuff is a factor in it, then boy am I glad he put that investment to learn it early on.
There was one particularly noticeable CGI creature in the final phase, but other than that it works with the artstyle well imo
in the 2nd half, I saw it on most of all the alien monsters. I respect the hustle and determination to use cgi, but there were several moments were it was a bit jarring. I might have gotten a bit too used to the amazing monster designs of attack on titan; plus I acknowledge he used it still in early 2010's, so that's also commendable. I just don't think it has aged THAT well to say it's unnoticeable.(I especially remember that enormous horn monster with spider leg thing on the water from the Osahka mission, that was probably the most jarring one)
@@jeom3808the last arc was soo hard to read with the cgi monster's...I love his artsyle but it's hard to understand what's going on sometimes
CG becomes more bearable in paper than in scans though
Maybe the real Gantz was the friends we made along the way.
Most of em are killed to one but not limited to, decapitation, getting impaled, killed by indescribable horror, and, possibly suffering other worse deaths I cannot list due to the lack of knowledge I have by not reading the manga.
@Alex I finished all 383 chapters in 1.5 days, the end could indeed have played out differently but you still get satisfaction from it.
was the friends we lost along the way*
@Alex how disappointing was it?
@@patch-fm for me it's not that disappointing and i really enjoyed it. You should just read it and judge it for yourself, because even though reviews are helpful, it might change the way you enjoy it.
Left the room for like 5 Minutes and when I return I see the words
“You are now dead” across my TV screen.
For an irrational second I had a mini heart attack.
Omae wa shindeiru?
"Not big suprise"
Finally, peace at last
bs story like "then obama started clapping" XD doesnt make sense, the text appears at 0.35 seconds. and you left for 5 mins XD
@@KuraudoSutoraifu7 Actually, the text stays on the screen for about 2-3 seconds. Slim timeframe I admit but that's why I thought it was funny.
But if you mean it's at the start of the video, maybe use your head.
I left the room and returned to see that text on the screen... So it's safe to say, I had RUclips running.
RUclips, if you don't know, plays the next suggested video on its own.
Again, if you're talking about the timeframe, it's an unlikely timing, but not impossible.
Also, this might be irrelevant, but I wasn't gone for a solid 5 minutes. Could have been 10, 15, or even 20 minutes. Give or take.
Hard to say since it was 4 months ago.
But believe what you want.
Kind of reminds me of Berserk in terms of the message: even if life seems pointless and cruel and unfair, you can make it worthwhile. You can survive, and you can enjoy it while you're here.
@Romano Coombs Never seen NGE, might check it out. I mean, it has three things I love: violence, robots, and existentialism. I actually think that Berserk really effected my view of the world, in terms of existence, destiny, purpose, etc.
We talking about the samr Berserk? Cuz Guts is still suffering and its only gotten darker. I have yet to see Guts truly be happy.
Askr Guts finally met people who made him capable of loving again and managed to keep his rage in check. Guts’ story is very dark but it has some light moments.
@GrabberBythePuss Not really since some animes do have the plot revolve around the same city or life changes that result in them acting differently. Berserk is essentially, how badly can we fck up Guts life before he eventually finds happiness.
... I don't think that's the take away from Berserk, lol. I don't think there's a take away period from Berserk. At least, not yet. It just simply is, y'know. It just exists. Miura is just creating a tale of tragedy and despair. Every time Guts sees a light, it's brutally taken away from him.
I like that Tae and kei relationship started by force, as a joke. But kei eventually falls deep in love with her and I've never seen two lovers trying to find each other so strongly.when Tae is abducted and treated like a pet, she doesn't wait for kei to come and save her. She makes her way out and runs to kei, same thing kei does. I don't know, I'm awere that there are great manga/anime couples, but this one felt the more realistic and passionate to me. I still remember that hug.
I think tae is amazing until the final arc. Just so annoying. Tbf oku can’t write female characters
I also loved the Reika arc a lot. The underlying message is a very real and hard pill to swallow.
Only fictional romance I've ever really gotten into. Every. Single. Beat. With them had my heart aching.
@@charliecoke7396her running through the city calling for him brought me to tears
@@JBBRDNKS Imma be honest. Liked Biker chick more. The girl who let Kei smash right away. She had the personality I liked AND could fight. Was hoping they'd be the power couple. Tae didn't grip like she did. She was just straight annoying in the final arc.
I wonder if the “come back in a week to deal with something you can’t expect the difficulties of and if you fail it’s all over” is kind of a metaphorical representation of the weekly grind of the manga artist
That probably is true, every chapter is a life or death struggle to a series.
That’s a, uh, strong guess
I thought that’s where he was going
Was it weekly when they got called to Gantz thought it was random
@@chikipichi5280 I also thought it was random, i think i remember some of them getting caught by surprise when they were being teleported again to the ball room
"no matter how awful or horrifying the world might seem it's our connection with other people that let us survive it and make it worth surviving"
I hope everyone remember this, specially in this year. Stay safe, hold on each other.
...while responsibly observing social distancing recommendations, of course.
❤🤗
Joaquin Pulido but uhm,, we’re not allowed to touch tho
Gay
G O D What about this was gay lmao
I can still remember the following dialogue
- Can you be my pet?
- Do you 'sleep' with your pet?
😂😂
yeah that was....that was sure something
yep. THat part really made me uncomfortable
Kei then said "well back when i was living on my parents farm as a kid they had a dog id let climb in my bed and id hold and kiss him till i fell asleep"
Jeeezus. I forgot how bad early Kurono was. What an arc.
the grandma scene when she tried to protect her grandson fucked me up SO BAD when I read it back in idk, 2010? it's been a while. if I think about too hard I still cry lmao
I watched the anime dub when that happened and I was so happy her grandson died cuz he was so damn annoying 🤣
I wish I read the manga first
"im gonna beat them up for you son"-Grandma
@@VictoryReviews have you read it? The manga?
holy shit i totally zonned that scene out of my mind, now that you brought it back i remembered
That grandma and child was cute...
They didn't survive, sadly..
My favorite character was the old man that was kuronos bro
I respect this manga so much for that alone. Guy is introduced in the new team arc and you expect him to bond with Kurono and then be thrown in the trash like a cheap uncle ben knock-off. But he actually makes it, and... goes on to be one of the central characters of the later arcs. And becomes pals with Kurono. Because at the end it didn't really matter what he looked like, people survive Gantz games with resolve and intelligence alone, the suits making everyone equal in the physical department.
I was NOT expecting at all a gore manga like Gantz to treat an elderly man with respect and agency. A lesser story would have killed him in two arcs just to give cheap angst to the other characters.
I loved him
Dude's the genuinely most chill and trusting wise man ever
I have no proof but I somehow believe that old man inspired inuyashiki by the same author
All kurono's bros since dinosaur mission are the best imo
Imagine being brought back to life, for the single purpose of killing Bart Simpson... 0:55
I think a couple of characters in the Simpsons wouldn't mind
I'm not sure if I want to read gantz
"George Clooney is there"
OK I want to read gantz
You won't regret this.
Steve Buscemi also appears there.
8:22 and filthy frank
Angelina Jolie
Morgan Freeman, Hitler, and a couple others are there too
Rewatching this I found a neat correlation. After Oku was left destitute from writing Zero One he's forced to immediately begin writing Gantz likely weekly to keep himself alive, which mirror's the story of Gantz where after trying to do something they weren't capable of (writing Zero One successfully) they have to fight to stay alive on a weekly basis only to return next week to fight again.
Interesting observation! I guess also on a meta(i don't know what would follow this) way, if Oku didn't write the next chapter, they all "die."
“Oh of course SEW likes the big karate man.”
*Five seconds later*
“You’re gonna make me cry John!”
Gantz is nothing but a fierce critic of capitalism, where we are all pit against each other, blacks vs whites, old people vs young, animals vs humans. We are all part of game that's impossible to win. A game where we literally lose our lives just to have one more day of dreadful existence.
I fucking cried at that part I hope they got out of the game but at the sametime I thinking it didn't happen thanks to what SEW said about the series and its outlook on life ;_;
@@OjoRojo40 I wouldn't say that your interpretation is wrong, but I do think you're jumping the gun by thinking Gantz only boils down to a shallow critique of capitalism just because the author was a bit irresponsible with his money.
@@beaniepirates6759 Shallow critic? There is nothing shallow about Oku's critic of capitalism, quite the opposite. And when did I say it only boils to a critique of capitalism? Cheers.
@@OjoRojo40
Im just saying if it is supposed to be a critique of capitalism, it's a pretty surface level one. I say that because the evidence you used to try to assert your point can *barely* be attributed to capitalism and is much more likely to be nihilism and a primal instinct to survive. Also you literally said "Gantz is *nothing* but a fierce critic of capitalism", and even told the other guy "You are wrong, that's totally the messgae", so you really can't blame me for thinking that's all you got from Gantz.
Gantz was a realistic portrayal of how people behave when they are backed into a corner. When they have seen too much combat, or when the feel that they must live for the moment because tomorrow we die.
Thank you
Gantz was a realistic portrayal of how immoral people behave when they had bad experiences in life.
Most people wouldn't have done what Kei did. Why, do you think that rapists, murderers, corrupt politicians, bullies are that way because they're inherently bad people? no, there's always a reason to why bad people are bad, childhood experiences, bad environment, social pressure; the difference between good and bad people are plainly that, whether you let those experiences shape who you are and what you do. If we start to make excuses on how people act because of bad things that happened to them, we have no need for prisons, police or law don't we? Oh, bob just murdered a bunch of people, ah, he's a psycopath, poor him having such mental sickness; Oh, tom is beating the the other kid up with his friends, oh, poor tom, he had a rough life with his drunk parents. So, you see, yeah, realistic? maybe, is that how all people would behave given the circumstances? definitely not.
@@nicoinformatics yup that is the best part about Kei he gradually choose to be a better person and try to build himself something healthy (his relationship with Tae & taking on Kato as a proper role model) and trying to make amends for his bad decisions by being less and less of an asshole
@@nicoinformatics Gantz was a depiction of today world.
Those ‘bad’ characters looking the other way when someone was being bullied or raped... well don’t we all do the same ?
We don’t care about populations being bombed, we might even scream “democracy”
We know of children exploitation in mine minerals yet we happily show off our latest smartphone or laptop...
The violence and depravation in the manga were a mirror of human behaviour and social desensitisation.
This whole series feels like an artistic struggle with nihilism and hopelessness... in a good way.
i think halfway through he didn't know what the fuck he was doing. i think the manga is about 100 chapters too long.
It reminds me a lot of Berserk. I love this kinda shit that forces us to take a look at how dark reality truly is without projecting our delusional, hopeless-like optimism that can lead to heavy disappointment when met with the harshness of reality. Being awake to the darkness helps us to truly build any kind of positive actions and ethics in order to bring an actual order to the chaos.
and titties
@@No_Enemies_Kale We fight in the dark, so you can live in the light.
~05 Council
Optimistic Nihilism - Kurzgesagt
Just sayin'
I keep coming back to this video. You get it. I remember having to explain it to my wife. Not about this, but about Inuyashiki. I was telling her about some of the stuff that Hiro does, and she’s like “Why would you ever want to read something like this? It just sounds so miserable.” I said, “Yeah. It hurts real bad. But then the heroic moments happen, and that misery is worth it, because you’re filled with hope again. And it’s like, if they can overcome this crazy stuff in the manga, maybe there’s hope for us hurting in real life, too.”
I was not prepared for that 4 year old kicking ass through the power of love followed by Kenshiro tears.
Nobody was
I even fuppin cheered in real life.
Manly tears,just like Kenshiro from Fist of the North Star.
That little four year old has to be one of the most unique characters I've ever seen in some form of media.
The only other character who tops him, to me, is Rorschach in Alan Moores' Watchmen.
The most accurate way I can describe Gantz is by saying "There is really nothing else like Gantz".
that's the same description as jojo's
I don't know if this is right but when reading through Gantz it reminds me of As God wills. Just that Gantz characters are more significant and the ending of it is better and the story comes to a better conclusion compare to As Gods Will.
Hiroya Oku also explained how he invented the technique in the 1980s for depicting boobs as moving in manga too, everyone ended up copying him. He explained it in one of the pages after a chapter of Gantz had finished. The manga was called Hen en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hen_(manga)
I did not know about that CG animation. It looks pretty damn good!!! Is it a movie or a video game? But most importantly: is it worth it?
Anyway, great video. Gantz is not perfect but it is one hell of a ride, and its art is nothing short from amazing.
@@duvan.deschain Movie name Gantz:O
That Kaze and Takashi segment was absolutely amazing. That made me feel more emotions than it should have. Jesus christ Mr. Eyepatch. Your writing is absolutely orgasmic
oh yes, I fully loved that section I was crying on the inside
@@JumpscareCitrus full of triumph and despair. This is one of many reasons why he's my favorite and the best
I actually screamed, holy shit.
I might be a year late, but when you were about to talk spoilers I actually wanted to read Gantz and then read the whole thing. I have come back and all I have to say is thank you. Thank you for showing me something great. I hope the best for you.
nah mate, youre just in time
What make gantz so good:
"Oh i love this new character.."
next panel: *dead*
"You never kill a kind old man right? Right?"
some hitler god alien turn him into lump of meat
thats gantz to you 👌🏻
Every fucking time
the only reason i love the mc
What makes it genius though is it establishes that they can and will kill everyone, and slowly create a team of survivors... but you KNOW that any of them could die, and that means the fights are never just 'cool fights'; there's always the real chance of the main characters dying. Several times in some cases.
@@iamthedave3 It's healthy for a story to have no plot armour for anyone.
I grew bored of Game of Thrones by the time it reached season 5 as I could figure out everything that was going to happen despite them running out of material from the book.
I just knew there would be ridiculous plot armoud for Jon Snow no matter what circumstance he finds himself in.
I fucking hate watching most things now, since plots become very obvious what will happen based on the casting.
Gantz was constantly exciting. Heck, I felt at any time the cute 4 year old could be killed. I never thought he'd have plot armour. they killed the old man, for chirssakes.
@@scoobydoobydoooo You literally just ruined your own opinion, as your opinion is that plot armor is bad and yet it suffers from very similar problems as not having any plot armor. It doesn't make a show good and can be super detrimental to character development and relationship building between reader and character.
This is why I hate comment sections on any platform, its always full of people who never think anything through.
For those who doesn't know, there a new gantz manga called GANTZ: E. It takes place in samurai Edo period. There only 1 chapter out.
thanks man
Wtf how does that make any sense tho? Don’t humans have to manufacture the balls in a factory? Do the aliens just teleport that shit now?
@@Jackboy019 The plan to manufacture them was a human decision, it wouldn't be difficult to teleport the original ball to the human world, and then make them create more
Is it going to stop after 2 games like gants:g?
@@ringkunmori
Idk it still ongoing
Kaze and Takeshi: This is only going to end in tears isn't it?
That ending holy shit.
Yes. Manly tears.
Damn right.
That alien was TEN YEARS TOO EARLY
i had forgotten about that opening to the osaka arc but remember Takeshi doing some amazing feat later on so i was very confused for a moment
If you want to cry, then just read the whole manga, the ending is heart wrenching.
29:17 I'm literally crying tears of joy and relief from this scene here
I burst out laughing. I still haven't caught up with the manga since I'm too busy ans my log grows larger with each passing day.
Dude i cried so fking hard man! I fully empathize
so proud of him. with a father figure like our MUSCLE RIDER. boy is going to be an absolute chad
The most striking moment for me in all of Gantz was simple: "Grandma will beat them up for you!"
After volumes of this utterly awful, cynical world full of crappy people, there's this sudden moment where a grandma who seemed certain to be a pathetic joke is instead clearly up to speed and pure of heart. Making it clear that the author knows there is good in the world too.
aaaa I don't want to remember that scene. Fuck, it physically hurts
That's honestly what i love most about the author. He keeps his stories horribly dark but juxtapose it with the pure goodness of the human heart instead of making misery for misery's sake *cough cough every hardcore gore/rape heavy seinen ive read*
@@formula2233
Well most of well known seinen are likes gantz too unless you only reading shit likes ichi the killer and deadtube.
just what little i know of gantz and what little context i can gleem from that sentence im probably never going to subject myself to gantz then
@@iliveinsideyourhouse3943 Oh certainly, but Gantz was the first thing by him I ever read and this was the first moment to make that clear.
"G-get lost..."
"..k...."
I'm in a love hate relationship with how Oku writes his dialogue.
So... Kinda like real people talk?
@@kuronoroux8864 yh
*how Oku dialogue gets butchered by crappy murican localization team
Excuse me while I pant for three whole pages.
Haohmaru HL Really, I just started reading today and I love how it was localized.
It compliments the short and sweet dialogue with very modern and concise slang.
So. No one's gonna talk about how the first alien is literally Bart Simpson?
If onions were people.
And one of the early characters is Lara Croft. This series' beginnings were steeped in the 90s.
take it to the bank boys, this ones just like bart!
Also, the "Why U No" meme face from 2010 was from Gantz.
TOE TO TIP
THATS A BART
Gantz and Berserk need a fresh restart and adapt all their mangas into anime. Both are masterpieces on a different level, if done right they destroy competitions instantly, not just on anime level, also in all of fiction.
ruclips.net/video/XMxbtRviZHA/видео.html Check out this Cringe Rewiew I made for Gantz. 😈😳💯🔥
What's wrong with the anime? I haven't watch it.
@@erenjaeger1738 the anime has low quality animation and is short since they just finished the anime in the alien buddha arc, the anime really needs a reboot like hunterxhunter but considering how sensitive the people this days im pretty sure its not gonna happen
@@imjonathan6745 the 3d movie is great tho
Add Claymore to it and i will be happy
For me gantz was all about human nature. When characters were confronted with the game of gantz, they had a huge range of emotions and ideals. Some experienced denial, and tried to simply go home. Some turned to religion for their salvation. Others formed groups and trusted no one else. Some went lone wolf and turned cold to everyone around them. Some turned to anger as their go to emotion. Some tried to be team players and work together. Others just gave up. Some went almost feral and sought to prey upon the other players. That to me was the ultimate message of gantz
Very true. I think this, and the theme of how we are motivated in life are the primary messages
The human condition
Unlike most horrors that show the worst in humanity to be the 'true horror' aspect, Gantz lets the the horror be external in order to highlight the goodness of humanity.
It's a bit contrived, but it absolutely does show how disgusting we are. I think a lot of people simply couldn't handle it and searched for reasons to write it off. What's particularly beautiful is the impact one positive person can make, that said positivity can be fleeting, and that it can be rekindled by other people. There's also the message that, regardless of who we are or where we are from, we're all in this together, experiencing the same joys and sorrows. It is our own arrogance and selfishness that detach us from other people and their joys and sorrows. You have to actually finish the manga (and be somewhat intelligent) to figure it out though. Those who get hung up on all the edge are missing the point, and it's sad.
I agree, like battle royale. The book is amazing.
“There’s this knowledge that neither side actually wants this...
That there are forces beyond the control of both that have trapped them in this scenario.”
This makes for a seriously accurate analogy far war my man!
But not for Gantz....
@@theoverlordofcats5511 Gantz IS war. A long and ruthless preparation for a war that could determine the survival of mankind.
@@theoverlordofcats5511 Did you read the manga? That point is clear from the first arc.
That isnt accurate at all, man.
Maybe for shit like Vietnam, where a massive media campaign was turned against American soldiers in a brilliant move by the Vietcong, but almost no other war in America's history was viewed that way, and I'd be willing to bet that is so uncommon as to be unheard of throught history.
We wanted the revolutionary war. The civil war was a little murky, but the South wanted it for sure. War cant occur without at least one side wanting it. I was about 11 years old when Desert Storm was started because Saddam Hussein attacked Kuwait. I was with my dad when he got deployed and the troops were singing songs about fucking Saddam Hussein in the ass. We didnt want WWII, but the other choice was to let Germany, Italy and Japan rule the world. You could say we wanted them NOT to rule the world. China didnt want Japan butchering millions, but they absolutely wanted Japan out of their country.
Your child's view of war and power is never going to be a thing. People want freedom. They want safety. They want hope. If they have to kill someone that is trying to take those things, then they want to fight the war. Even gang wars are about wants, not an unending cycle of violence for the sake of violence. They want territory, they want dominance, they want, they want, they want. If a dude breaks into your house, you might not want to kill him, but you sure as hell want to protect your family, your property, and your own life.
Good luck putting daisies in the barrel of some rifles pointed at you. I suspect that will lead to you wanting your wife unmolested and your kids unsold, but you can tell them that you just dont want war, right? "Sorry, honey. Sorry, Jr. I thought War was just two groups of people who dont want to fight. Try not to fight when they hold you down, they dont want you to fight, so I was half right."
@@CNNBlackmailSupport lmao at this america.txt
"George Clooney is there"
along with jesus, hitler, morgan freeman, stephen hawking
And a couple triceritops
Seriously?
You forgot Gandhi
Even god himself what a legend
Even Angelina Jolie. She gets boned by Kurono, then dies, is brought back at the end of the manga, just to be killed again.
The beauty of Kurono is that he starts as the anti-hero. Sure he is the protagonist but you can all see he has no redeeming qualities at the start and don't play saint, most of us in our teenage years were also sex driven, selfish, angsty idiots so I think he was well written in that way for his character, but throughout the manga he becomes loving, a leader, strong and fearful of losing what he has gained: friends and love. Even when he got a real gf, we see his major change, he went from lusting after the big tits supermodel to being truly in love and caring about the ordinary girl that was his gf. In the beginning he was mean to hear saying how she had no boobs or that she was ordinary but as we see little by little her life full of cute stuff and how Kurono learns that not everything is just sex and fucking, there is also love ,tenderness, innocence, he learns to truly fall in love with her to the point of protecting her when the world starts ending.
Another beaufitul panel that made me cry was after the dinosaur battle. The team has won, and Kurono runs to his team joyful and happy. We see the huge tits supermodel going to greet him smiling, but Kurono fucking IGNORES HER completely to go to the Old Man (best character) and help him stand up and hug him and THANK him. He ignored a hot model's touch in order to help, hug and thank an old tiny man. That's when I understood, fuck this is a great manga and it actually has character growth. Give it a try, sure the ending becomes pure insanity and there are some plot holes and wtf's, but it's damn good read and the art is worth looking at.
Dude, Kurono's character development was a joy to behold. I love Gantz.
kurono from a shithead turn into a chad was truly a joy! what a ride
It took me a while, as a young adult reader, to understand that. ……
*spoiler alert*
Until the hotty clone him and there’s two of him and he even talks to himself and says
“Well I guess I’m like that” *somewhat* and that’s when I realized i believed him. Why was he over reacting. He has two Waifus haha but #2’s ending was just as amazing *the ripping apart of a molecular level
@@Yuemitaifr lol i couldnt stand kurono at first. i told my brother (who introduced me to gantz) that this mc is prob the worst mc ive ever seen 😂. but my god his growth as a character was so satisfying to watch.
@@tommyblade8093 right?? And I can't believe it either that it's been 2 years since i read it.
The second you said "Muscle Rider" I started crying holy shit
Same!!!! It took me back to when I first read the entire series,and i couldn't help but tear up.
I'm really surprised it hit me that hard. I kinda pushed it away and forgot about it, but when he mentioned how the boy died it twisted my gut and made my throat seize up.
@@uzemakistyle I felt the same way. And I've never read or seen Gantz. There's just something heartwrenching about it
Muscle rider is easily the best waifu. Better than that thot reika.
Every time I look at my Gantz poster, I wonder "has the rest of the world forgotten that this was actually a thing?" Glad to see that's not the case.
Lab Matt / underrated but not forgotten. Gantz is one of the best seinen mangas and one of the best pieces of fictional, sci fi story telling.
For me, is only second to Berserk in manga and Kurono second favorite protagonist to Guts.
This show was so F up
I still remember it to this day. I wanted to buy the manga but it was never released in my country and the imports cost a shit ton of money as they are out of print
How can you expect anyone to forget such a nihilistic and horrifying monstrosity?
benjamin ramsey / if it helps, Gantz is pretty easy to read than most manga just because it has more visual storytelling than actual dialogue. You end up going through chapters surprisingly fast.
There are two Gantz artistically.
"The overly detailed sculpted artpiece" Gantz and
"Panels of blobs of unintelligible black goo" Gantz
I was so sad when the panda just didnt return after one of the missions
It died during the Greek statue mission right? That arc was a fucking massacre
same with the dog...
Sigmafocus i honestly dont really remember the dog
grennbalze the dog was in there from the very beginning but I think he died during the arc with the statues at the temple
When that panda was first introduced, I thought, "oh no, it's so gonna die, isn't it? :("
drinking game: take a shot every time something suddenly goes wrong
*drinks*
Suddenly something goes wrong with my liver...
*dies of alcohol poisoning*
Your liver would kill itself in the first few chapters.
Sounds like a fun game to play during an X-Com session. :/
@@NeroMystyra shit, gotta drink for your liver
For an added detail that might not even be intended (but I assume is because I can), let me point out that during that great four-panel setup at the start of Gantz's third arc, Kurono is able to speak out loud about his desire to go back to the Gantz apartment-because he is alone and can risk his life as much as he likes. Kato, by contrast, can't voice his concerns aloud and has to bottle them up so he doesn't wake up his brother. It's a subtle and potentially unintended extra way to read the different levels of burden and responsibility each character has.
Wow good take dude
I want to believe it's intentional, because it'd be so easy to have both characters think about their feelings instead.
Storyline of Gantz traumatized me as a teen so hard. Sheer existential horror and gruesome deaths of absolutely every single character on every corner, feeling that every character can die at any moment, every love interest, every kind grandma, everyone who said something positive would probably die the most gruesome, detailed death several pages later. And then the reason for Gantz existence, the sheer dread and cosmic horror and helplessness, and then you understand that probably the humanity in general will be destroyed and had absolutely no chance of survival. Its probably one of the most depressing and terrifying mangas to ever exist. Attack on titan wasnt even close to Gantz on that front.
Gantz peaked
It’s a very deeply nihilist story
I think that if Gantz was created into a high budget anime with quality marketing like AoT, then AoT wouldn’t have been popular that much years later.
It’s rather funny because in Gantz: O Kei Kurono is voiced by Yuki Kaji, who is the voice of Eren Jaeger in AoT.
@@Nirrini yeah, GANTZ had every chance of becoming the next big thing, if only the anime wasn't so bad. The manga had everything AoT had, it was basically the same genre and general setting of "humans fighting with overwhelming existential threat with no obvious way of ever winning, a lot of gore and deaths all around".
Honestly there is so much fucked up shit that happens in gantz that i actually forgot about that dude who escaped gantz before that then went on a "recruitment mission" in the hopes to go back to the gantz room when he dies, after i reread that i was like how did i forget something so extreme
with that said though the sequence where kei lost everyone only to instantly be put into yet another mission all by himself without any time to process. with the sole alien survivor of that solo mission actually comes to haunt kei in real life is burned into my mind
if only the ending wasn't shit
The thing about gantz is that it made me feel like I was a veteran who lost multiple friends over the series. New characters I just couldn't get attached to
Damn you captured my feelings exactly. I felt like I had ptsd by the end of it.
I couldn't continue after the Buddha statue killed the new girl who I really liked
Takeshi's story always makes me cry, even years later.
Holy shit.
Mary and Kaze are going to be his surrogate parents.
I've been crying ever since.
What hurt me the most reading grantz long time ago, was that round where the target was...tae.
That was cruel.
that was fucking cruel
Pain
I read the whole manga recently and I almost forgot about that part, when the manga was good, because I was so distracted by the overly long, mediocre final arc :/
@@treehann Fuck, I am also so sad about the final arc. It really, really jumped the shark at the end.
I was kinda mad that Gantz made Tae the target (we assume) because she accidentally capture a pic of one of the guy when they did a mission. But after that arc, suddenly everybody can see them during the Dinosaur and Oni arc, and Gantz didn't do shit!
I periodically come back to this video specifically to hear you narrate about the relationship between Tekashi and Kaze as it makes me cry every time. It's genuinely so beautiful of a story and makes me enjoy this story
Takeshi: _"You're not muscle rider! You're a bad guy!!"_
Kaze: _"I am Muscle Rider, i was made from your drawing to protect you"_
*_Seeing how Takeshi got into gantz was heartbreaking_*
But it made it all the sweeter and more touching when you see the big tough karate man start to like the kid and slowly become what amounts to Piccolo and Gohan. The kid was a good kid and found a father who was firm where he needed to be and soft where he needed to be. And he's going to teach him how to grow up into a Tekken character. They were definitely my favorite part of the series aside from Kurono.
But when takeshi does the back push thing it was made of win
I feel u man
@@Pragabond Well, he's not going to grow up to be a Tekken character, more than likely Kaze will teach him martial arts and Kaze will start a family with Takeshi and Mary. A Tekken character implies that he will hate his father due to his dad's repeated attempts to abuse and kill him.
tasty tasty pudding my whole kingdom for some pudding
God damn man, I'm tearing up again with the whole Muscle Rider bit.
As soon as you said it, it hit me.
same dude it gets me every time
Me three
You forgot to mention how the panda character fights strangely buff dinosaur aliens, some of which can breath giant fireballs
Of course it does
> dinosaur aliens
> breathe fireballs
Are you telling me this series has Yoshi in it? Fuck I been missing out.
And then it's just killed offscreen. That's late Gantz for you.
Serpillard le rusé I just realized that haha. The dog also died too lmao
The story about the fighter and kid just makes me drenched in tears, I'll definitely have to give this a read
That part got me, too.
Wuss pain yo life!
Yeah and then there’s like the middle aged man who’s wife died and he’s all lonely and like offers to let them stay in his apartment it’s nice
"No, I don't want it"
Somehow that line by the kid really shook me. It's what I imagine my nephew would say in such a nightmarish situation.
when the villains in your story are the comic relief and everything else is depressing:
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massacre in Shibuya is so funny#Edgy 😎
"Takashi is killed," God damn..
"Nah sike," GOD DAMN!
You, my good man, just sold me on this series.
Honestly. This series can get so bleak at times, that's how it felt while reading it. And it made that punch felt so much more rewarding because of that.
Eyepatch really sold the hell outta that scene.
The first and only time I read Gantz was when it was being released and when that part in the video happened I was so confused cus I was sure I remembered it differently. Damn, he got me!
HeyKFive
Any series where a 8 year old child has the power to do a Delaware Smash has my soul wavelength
After that first spoiler I was furiously scrolling the comments to make sure Takashi didn't die. I want to read Gantz but if Takashi or Kaze end up dying in the series, I'm not gonna try. Somebody spoil me on this ;-;
@@TheVeryAngryShrimp it's worth the read. Just do it.
What I liked the most about Gantz is how Oku portrays the idea that every single human has a reason to live or that it can find one in this life or the other (inside Gantz). Whether that reason is killing (like shinji) protecting others, experiencing the love of others (Kurono), value your life in general, that your life has meaning and a purpose.
And so many things taught through a violent world.
Gantz is when isekai is not really isekai, but IRL nightmares. Also, train-san did it before it became popular 😂 LOL
Anyway, I am still dreaming about Full Gantz anime remake adaptation.
A full anime adaptation on an anime with that much gore, rape and nudity is almost impossible unless instead of airing on tv, it was published as ova, but since gantz has 360 chapters, to fully adapt it onto anime form it would be at least 130 episodes, and long ovas arent that common because its way too much money invested on something thats not gonna give a fixed amount of money like tv anime does.
And considering how the media reacted to the goblin slayer's first episode, imagine how it would react to gantz WHOLE series lmao.
But yes... that would truly be a golden experience
Ruvikko They could just keep doing movies like they did with Gantz :O.
I mean as soon i heard it was CGI i was like, Fuck here we go Berserk Golden Arc all over again why can't we have a nice adaptation of Gantz, but then i say the trailer and i was amazed, godamm that shit looked amazing, and after seeing i tought the movie was top.
I get it that for someone that haven't read the manga they are basically complelty lost. But if they did that from the beggining of the series with the same quality it would be a dream come true. But i don't know how the rape focus of the series would impact the whole thing, but i guess it would be probaly a lot more tamed.
@@VerGiLL1 gantz.O was good but they left out most the story and it's confusing if you've never seen the TV series or read the anime you wouldn't understad what's going on. Like Why was Kato just by himself without Kai? then at the end of gantz.O kato wants to bring back Kei and that makes no sense because it's just a random part taken from the anime without the context of what happened before then. In a way it's like watching the final fight without reading the whole story first. They explain more detail in gantz anime series and the manga...but overall if you've read the manga and watched the anime series then gantz .O is pretty good
@@ruvikko , I think that ONAs are a much more viable route for publishing highly objectionable anime nowadays, as opposed to OVAs. Netflix's Devilman Crybaby was extremely gory and hyper-sexual, but because it was released online rather than on TV they could get away with doing that. Perhaps another online streaming service could attempt to make a comparably dark adaptation and really capture the essence of the manga (I'm aware Netflix already has a Gantz movie which was disappointing to fans of the manga, but perhaps another streaming service could take a shot at this series in the future).
Honestly I hate dying and then waking up in random apartments. Worst feeling in the world.
Hello egg brother, I recognize your name
Eh, sometimes there’s hot babes in skintight suits. So it’s not all bad
Reminds me of the last time I took too much ecstasy
I know happens to me all the time.
Hate it too when the that giant ball forced you to killed the aliens and the aliens are some godlike beings who destroyed the whole city.
Amidst all the excessive blood and violence in this series, the relationship between Kei and Tae is probably one of the most human, and beautiful things I've ever seen in anime/manga media. No matter how terrible things got, or even the doubts Kei had towards himself or what he may have preferred as his old self in the form of the hot super model that was madly in-love with him. Kei always returned to Tae, as she had become the greatest pillar of strength for him, and became someone he genuinely loved with all his being. I legit cried just about every time he thought he was going to lose her, but then they embrace one another and sobbed. Kei is one of the most incredible anime/manga protagonists in history, because I have never seen a character that I despised so much at the start of the series...become the guy I loved and rooted for around the middle and end.
From Zero, to Hero. God bless Kei Kurono and his magnificent display of character development.
Same, tae and kei are the best things in gantz for me
Amen to that
Agreed. So many manga try to have the protagonist start out as a shitty person and have them grow through the series, and so often they never end up being any more likable. Kei’s transformation from just another teenage wastoid to someone we genuinely want to see triumph over all of the obstacles in his way.
I just finished reading Gantz a few weeks ago and couldn't agree more with your comment. I absolutely hated Kei from the beginning towards the middle of the Buddha arc, but he changed so so much after loosing so many people that he became an entirely different person. Him meeting the average looking but honest and heartwarming Tae was the very best thing the author could have done. Especially at the end of the chapter "daytime lantern" Kei had become my favorite character of the manga. Their separation in the final arc and their strong desire to reconnect despite an endless amount of life-threatening situations, only made the couple better. Damn, what an amazing manga, you can't experience something like this a second time. Gantz, reset my memories so I can read everything again... but please don't send hot killer vampires after me haha
@@LadyIno We are certainly not the only ones. If you can make a sack of crap that everyone hates, become an amazing person that everyone loves? You're a master craft writer, haha. There are so many good characters in this, but Kei ended up my favorite around, like you stated, Daytime Lantern. That chapter summarizes his entire character beautifully, and you learn that Kato was 100% justified in his reason for idolizing YOUNG Kei. Because he didn't just change to a good person, he reverted to much of his old self while maturing. I heard there is a Gantz prequel taking place in the Feudal era. I'm gonna give it a shot, but like you say, it probably won't catch the magic of this one. And the protagonist probably won't go through such a god tier development trip like Kei did lol
Gantz is my absolute *favourite* manga. It's such a mindfuck, I love it so so much. There are some really really well-written character redemption progressions and high emotional stakes that actually got to me and made me cry haha which a lot of media can't do. I think a lot of people brush it off as simple violence/gore porn. But really, it's such a complex story of love and sacrifice, and the main protagonist's growth into a good and caring person through trauma and loss.
The anime could have been so fucking great had they not ended it early, the three arcs that they created directly from the manga were in my opinion very well-executed, and I'd love to see someone else give it another go and see it through to the end.
I want more like the netflix movie
Gantz: O is one of the most beautiful 3D films out there.
It is pretty epic
@@yudan4302 yep
FR i wasn't expecting it to be so good.
Just rewatched it recently. So much nostalgia of the manga. Really sad it ended
It's ‘O’ (for Osaka) not ‘0’ (zero)
Moral of the story: you don’t have to actually practice martials arts to learn them. Watching youtube videos about them is enough.
Siri...go update.
and don't forget your gantz suit that improves your physical strenght to ridiculous levels
maybe the force came from the suit??
@@mtrStriker999
No, the force comes from midiclorians.
Lmao
When I saw the title of this, as someone who's read all of gantz, I was wondering how you would broach the subject of some of the...ugly, for lack of a better word, parts of gantz. I feel you did a really great job informing people about it, and I wholeheartedly agree with your conclusion. Great video, as always
Gantz is one of my favorites, perhaps even my no.1
Seeing Wolf covering its appeal fills me with nostalgia.
Mah edgy boi Nishi's ending was disappointing. He was moving on the right path until... Power trip once again.
He never even mentioned the vampires that appear in the story. They're not even aliens like the rest of the creatures are. They are straight up vampires that just appear out of nowhere.
@@halo10001 Gantz is just too huge to cover in video format, really. Cherry, Sakata, Nishi and Reika are other rad characters that go through interesting story arcs.
Also, Cherry and Sakata are massively underrated. Everyone always talks about Muscle Rider and Takeshi, but those two have a mentor-student relationship that is just as good IMO.
It’s a great manga except for the vampires part that was so random
halo10001 Like Seriously That shit was so random and brought up the fact kei had a brother
Kurono was the embodiment of "You don't know what you have until it's gone"
i think Takeshi's backstory is like one of the first times i've ever cried while reading a manga, yeah, Gantz was one of my starters, and i fucking loved it.
i recomend u Hadashi no Gen if the artwork dont push u back, its a bit outdated but a great story based on the autors life.
For me it was Cherry. The psychic kid. He started off with nothing, achieved happiness in his life, and then had it all torn away from him for no reason at all.
I was sure he was going to talk about the giant naked woman made out of naked woman!
And the dude who fucked the giant Lol
I was bummed that didn’t make it into the movie, it would’ve been hilarious
It also wouldn’t have gotten anywhere near Netflix I guess but hey.
@@hiraeth437 would be the first time netflix said no
isn't that in Gantz:o?
@@nahoj.2569 the monster is, but the entire chapter was heavily censored. For example, the other team they encountered were full of drug addicts and rapists. There were multiple scenes of rape and drug usage that didn`t make it into the movie.
Of course you made a Gantz video. Once again you've found an obscure thing that I've loved for years and somehow made me love it even more. I can't even describe how much I enjoy these videos. Thank you for everything you do Wolf.
I found Gantz in my school's Library years ago, but they only had the first 3 volumes. I then decided to buy all 37 volumes and every now and again I read through the whole manga all over again. It has everything I love sexy girls, supernatural monsters, and crazy badass fights. It is also one of the best drawn manga which in my opinion is worth owning. I wish we could get the whole series animated like Gantz O because the first anime adaptation doesn't do the series any justice.
@@LonexCyborg Gantz 0 got a positive reception and introduced a lot of new people to the series so I wouldn't be surprised if it gets a sequel in a few years.
@@stayskeptic3923 Pretty much all manga other than Berserk and SnK are obscure where I live unfortunately. I've never met someone who's even heard of Gantz.
I was reading this manga back when it was coming out, and god damn, that Buddha arc made me severely depressed.
SPOILERS
Enjoying this manga every chapter for years on end, just to have every character wiped out in an unimaginably difficult battle was bruuuutal. I remember I had to take almost a year's break from it back then because I was so distraught with the realization that in our reality no one has plot armour and any of my friends or family could pass away at any moment. This manga is one of my absolute favourites because of how fucked up it was. Absolutely insane story.
I watched the anime up until the end of the kill kurono mission, I assume he killed the hobo hunters but is he the only one who lives? And where does that leave off in the manga?
@@zafiruzoma6234 The final hunt of the anime is only in that adaptation, and the hobo killers don't appear in the manga. In the manga (going light on spoilers here) after the temple, Kei has a solo mission which goes....EXTREMELY badly, and then new supporting cast members arrive and the series takes on a new direction.
me too man.. i once had a nightmare because of it
No one has plot armor besides tae
@@AnotherDaysTruths tae died once though.
Never even heard of gantz but willing to listen to the wolf talk about anything for 30 minutes
never heard of Gantz ? dude you're missing a hidden treasure man.
you are not from the golden age of manga
@Shaman X + Alien
@Shaman X stop it
Watch it man. Your not an edge Lord until you have watched it.
That moment at the end you did with Takashi was hype af. I'm sold, great video.
"I've come to the conclusion that I'm not the arbiter of what is and is not okay in media"
I think I love you for this.
I wished more people would have the open mindness of aknowledging their own preferences and comfort zones while also let media be media. Allow the individual to decide what is okay for them and only them and what is not. Much respect for him.
If only all of twitter had this mindset
@@DerultimativeOzzy In the same way you have to be open minded enough to understand and accept that other people can't stand certain stuff and they are in the right too when they complain about aspects they dislike.
@@Realag666 ofcourse. Critique is perfectly fine and an important aspect for an artists and the art itself to grow from it.
Censorship is what needs to be avoided as much as possible, within reasonable levels. Its been a concerning popular thing nowadays for people to demand media and people to be " hidden" away from the eyes of others because some people do believe they are the arbiters that get to decide what is okay and what isn't.
Arkrilix Art You could just not use Twitter, like me.
I have no connection with Gantz nor have I ever cared about it at all, my only experience with it being some clips from a movie a good several years ago. With that in mind, I actually cried watching this video when you got to the Kaze/Takeshi section. I freaking loved that. Unbelievably wholesome stuff from a place I would never expect. Now, I might actually read this series. Well done.
So honestly, he's saying that human bonds are enough to withstand the horrors of the world. That's deep, and honestly made me cry like a baby.
Wow. I wish I could still feel emotions like that.
Rage Against My Hairline Same.
@@rageagainstmyhairline5574 you're the Nishi of the team and I'll be Izumi
We acquired a wifi connection, but we lost human connections at the same time
Really resounds, especially with the level of helplessness you're overwhelmed with. Every panel you read, you need to let go of your faves just so you survive their (inevitable) death.
After the third mission this fking manga kept me hanging from a cliff all the way until the end. Fk I wish I could erase my memory and read it again like it was the first time.
Yep, same here. Plp dislike the temple arc but looking back, that was the time gantz set the expetations of just how bad things can get, and that feeling never went away
@@alilweeb7684
I loved the temple arc. It was fantastic!
i lost it from the osaka arc, just repeating fighting and things get bored
Wish they didn't kill off Sei
I've been reading up until ch 101 of this manga and the plot is still repetitive and the mc is still an incel. There's no plot progression at all. Also, the characters in this manga are so bad. Lara croft just likes kei because of course she does. Kishimoto is a piece of sht and kei is the devil. The only character I liked is kato and spoilers
He died. There's no reason for me to continue reading this manga because I hate everything and I mean everything about this manga. (Except the art. The art is really good).
"These are not the sportsmanlike showdowns of shonen battle manga. These are like violent emotional car crashes where death is immediate and frequent on both sides." You put into words the reason why every fight in this manga had me on the edge of my seat.
Ngl after the temple arc ALL the other fights had my heart racing. Cuz you know how wrong things can get
Also because Gantz is not a shonen (thankfully), it's a seinen.
@@souljastation5463 gantz was published on the shounen jump. Dont use that term pls, its cringy
@@alilweeb7684 It's listed as a seinen on animeclick.it (even if they do say it was published on shonen jump), that's my country's most used manga/anime database.
P. S. which would be the cringe term? Shonen or seinen, and why that is?
@@alilweeb7684 The irony is strong with this one.
The cgi movie was pretty great and is a good way to get a good Gantz experience without going through the unnecessarily horrible parts of the manga
Gantz: O is amazing. I still rewatch it on Netflix. My only complaint is that it features just one scene of Kei Kurono.
Granted, the movie is about the Osaka arc. It is still awesome.
The movie is amazing but the "unnecessarily horrible parts" are really what make the story what it is. You can't really watch that movie without context; thats the only reason I'm not recommending it to everybody.
@@BlackJester57 I wouldn't call it a good launching point, but it is what hooked me into reading the manga. It just takes all the horror of the monsters and heroic aspects of the protagonist so it is good to watch if you want a bare bones experience of the story. It is very much its own thing tho so I can understand not recommending it to everyone but I absolutely loved it. Got hella hyped.
They’re not for everyone but I think they are part of the story, I mean I don’t think I would’ve enjoyed it as much without them
It is great...but turn on Subtitles even though it's in English. Lots of stuff that isn't even said is in the Subtitles.
Gantz feels like a Japanese “I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream”
It more likes if alien meets men in black
Good comparison.
TheSnoozeFox really how so?
@@marlom7882 an AI keeping people trapped and constantly playing a game of death
@@TheSnoozeFox
Gantz sphere is not really an "AI" though.
I first read Gantz back when I was still at high school. I remember CRYING MY EYES OUT when Kurono's girlfriend died. This manga is really special. So now, while watching this video and you citing some of its most heartwhealming and human moments, I teared up a little. Great job, dude.
Dude . . .
Spoiler alert . . .
Kurono's girlfriend is what what made Kurino change from a loser to a compassionate human being. At firstbhebhated her but then eventually falls in love with her. It's an amazing contrast too to see Kurono's point of view. When he smashed the girl with the red head and the black long pigtail, he did it in a animalistic way, but when he gets to his girlfriend, he was more human about it. One of the things I appreciate seeing Kurono's character developing from a loser to a pretty good guy. More people fo need to experience the manga in my opinion. The message and character progression, besides the amazing alien art designs, are all some of the best things Gantz have to offer. Even when displaying the over the top controversies. I don't believe it's just for shock value or for the sake of edginess but to display real life horror and to see our characters in those situations change throughout. The story to me has always been about change for the better, strengthening both physically and mentally.
Can I just say that the boss Buddha Alien thing literally employed that video game boss bullshit that everyone absolutely hates, random traps, lackeys that you have to kill to try to keep damage to a minimum only for the boss to use eat them and heal, it’s fast so if you choose heavy armor to try and protect yourself you can’t keep up and if you decide to go with light armor well enjoy the extra damage.
This is the type of boss that on your first run through of the game after dying on the 15th retry you employ the old gamer tactic of just nuke the whole room and pray that your armor is strong enough to leave you with at least a sliver of health. My god those people didn’t stand a chance it’s like handing a jrpg to your grandma who only played Pac-Man once.
I think Gantz's battles can be surmised as "some 20 people trying to kill a Dark Souls boss... But only 1 of them has a weapon and none of them have ever played a videogame before, let alone Dark Souls".
It's the kind of thing that would be so easy to do on your 10th attempt; but you only have one, so good fucking luck.
Mordirit that’s right the game has permadeath tooo🤦🏿♀️
@@butterballporkbunthetoymak Well, theres respawning, it just relies on another player doing it for you, and that said other player doesnt die in 20 rounds or so.
@@FLFL-Cookays Not 20 rounds, but 100 or 1000 points I guess
@@GreeZisSadge 100 points. There was that otaku guy who fluke sniped a 100 pointer Gatz monster (literally a shape shifting godlike entity) to clear the game (ability to dismiss yourself from missions).
Nearly 2 years later this is still my favorite video essay on the platform. I've watched it many times, and it inspired me to read Gantz cover to back. The message and musical drop at 29:50 has been a staple for me to return to whenever things get rough.
Thank you.
The Unholy Trinity of Unsettling Creature Design in manga:
-Berserk
-Gantz
-Jagaaaaaan
You forget devilman.
The entire work of Junji Ito, too.
Let's expand it into the Elder God pantheon then.
Fuck yeah! Jagaaaaaan is awesome!
It feels weird and satisfying seeing Jagaaaaaan in here
I feel like series that cover these dark themes have enough impact to truly convey their messages.
Berserk made me reconsider my goals and purpose in life. I feel like if I read gantz I’m gonna get smacked by another wave of inner reflection.
Gantz is a smarter series than it lets on for all it's exploitative moments it also tells the stories of a cast of complex characters who grow and change as the series goes on for better or worse. It's after the third arc that the story really starts to convey that as Koruno has to grow up and develop human connections after everything else is taken from him.
It can honestly be kind of distracting with some of the curveballs it throws at you throughout but it does give some nice reference for self-reflection.
gantz does throw in a lot of gore and shit just for the hell of it compared to berserk which has meaning to things. Gantz does have a lot of cool themes under all that trash tho
@@Jruni Kurono story and any character development lost meaning when the author simply decided to clone him to resolve the love triangle between the nerdy girl that was his true love and the hot chick the author preferred. I can understand why someone who started reading Gantz likes it, but I can't understand why someone who finished the story still likes it. It was just such a clusterfuck by the end, I finished more out of obligation than genuine curiousness.
Well said
Best moment in Gantz ever.
SPOILER
After finishing the most tiring mission yet, most of his team mate got over 100 points, and they all offer up their point to revive all Kei's friend.
Thats for me is the moment i decided Gantz is one of the best manga i've ever read
this moment was gold^^their bond was beyond the battle field
Then they also decide to just let Kurono go and finish the game on their own, so he can be with his lover, even the chick who unconditionally loves him the most. It's fucking crazy how many times this manga took me for a ride lol.
@@Theseus17 Nishi is much more knowledgeable about gantz so kei wants answers and nobody new about the apocalypse among the group except nishi. The tits girl is only a copy at least somewhere she is alive, and as for the tomb girl maybe she is not so important for the plot just character development for kei. In my conclusion he chose the most helpful person among the three.
Facts
i love that no one talks about last giant arc of gantz..
There is so much to Gantz. I've watched this video so many times, because I literally have no one to talk to about it that don't think it's trash. I genuinely appreciate this. I still have hope for a true adaptation.
This was possibly one of my favourite Manga in the darkest time of my life and that message of connections helping people through the impossible cruelty of the world never really clicked for me until now and it just feels nice :)
Heh, same. It really helped me through a bad spot just because I could always say, "well, however bad I've got it... Still better off than these poor bastards."
"I'm not the arbiter of what is and is not ok in media" Yes! Thank you! Each person need to see/watch things and come to their own interpretation of the meaning of the things.
Honestly I can’t stand mindless violence and the exploitation of sensitive issues just for the sake of shock value, but it works in gantz. It’s a constant reminder that these characters live in a hateful and cruel world and that bad things just happen to people without any particular reason. It’s realistic in a way although exaggerated. There are shit people in this world, and there is no meaningful reason as to why they choose to hurt others.
It doesn't work in Gantz, because there's nothing mindless and exploitative about them in the first place. People complaining about these things are simply incapable of differentiating between purposeful use and cheap shock tricks.
Mistor Di r u serious? Listen I love gantz but there is no way in hell you can argue that every violent or shock value scene is purposeful. Remember when a girl and her 3 rapists got into the game? How is that purposeful?
Edit: it’s known that the mangaka focuses on human cruelty, and what makes something truly cruel is how purposeless or sadistic it is. If someone had a “higher” reason for being cruel then it’s not really cruelty
@@kitkatbakery465 What are you trying to argue with? I say it's *narratively* purposeful, it's not just cheap trick to impress the audience, it serves the idea of the story and building the atmosphere.
Trust me, I've seen lots of japanese works that outright bask in being shock-porn, and Gantz definitely isn't one of them.
imo Gantz uses violence the same way A Song of Ice and Fire uses violence, as more a tool for a character based story than violence for violence sake
Fun fact bang dream season 2 got more rating in my anime list than Gantz anime
Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable. That fleshy live aspect to shake up stagnation. The grimdark exists because we need to see such things but it's key to remember it's not because the dark snuffs Out the light. We admire that the dying light with all it's might holds back the dark.
The MC's growth is what really captured me.
Yes, Kurono matured a lot. He went from just caring about himself and wanting to get laid to genuinely caring about people and being a good leader.
@@ishidacoolp I think its cause Kurono started off with a ability to survive, but his harsh personally and nihilistic outlook drove people away despite the fact that he could save them. Meanwhile Kato was just about useless but his charisma made people think of him as a leader, which showcased another terrible aspect of society. As people saw Kuronos ability though, and how useless Kato was (as far as saving them goes), they started relying on him, which forced him to become a leader and care for these people that were coming to him.
...Man. I remember watching some of the Gantz Anime, like at 2AM at night, when I was supposed to wake up early next morning. And I remember sitting in that dark room, with the only source of light being that old TV of mine, watching this bizarre and brutal show... I watched to the beginning of that Buddha fight. And then I just stopped. I never got to know what happened to the team in that one.
Now... now I know, huh...
Hm, at 2AM? On Viva?
@@doyleharken3477 It might have been Viva, yeah. I don't remember it 100% but I believe you are right!
@@umbaupause Lol. I stayed up late when I had school in just 4 hours or so just to catch it. Teen me was blown away by the show. Back then, which cartoons had that level of sex and violence?
@@doyleharken3477 Ha, yeah, it was like a forbidden world back then! Especially due to the fact that it was all in darkness, with the thrill of being caught at any moment. Felt like a stealth mission. But yeah, between that, Standalone Complex and Cowbow Bebop, it was such a wild ride each time I dared. That Pierrot Le Fou episode on Bebop too...
Bro it got way better after that especially the main team.... And then it went downhill 50 chapters before the end
I wish this manga had an anime adaptation that covered the entire content. Either in full 2D or entirelly CGI would be cool.
the movie was ok! .. just the character are worst!
I just want everything until the Rome mission adapted. The fibal arc was trash
If they edited out some of the worst stuff (like the homophobia) for an anime adaption of the full series I think it would be fine.
@@rogeliobuy3741 I actually liked the Rome adaptation I just hated the tall aliens plot that was shit. How are that species stronger than the aliens that created the Gantz machines. They can literally tell when you will be rebirthed into the future.
If the CGI is as good as the movie then that's okay, if not, I don't want no berserk 2017 again.
Gantz manga was a hell of a ride, i remember reading it in highschool when it was released monthly and was absolutely in awe almost every chapter