The BEST Trope In Fiction
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This video perfectly explains why "the monster within" trope is amazing, when used badly it just comes off as a crutch but when used properly it can extend a characters traits or gives the character more growth to it's arsenal and personality.
An ELITE trope
I literally yelled "OH SHT HE'S ICHIGO" when i played the last fight of T8
This was happening waaaaay before bleach was made brother lmfao. Tekken is as old as Dragonball Z and kazuya was doing what Jin was doing before he died and got replaced by jin
Kazuya wasn't struggling with his Devil side like Jin was at all. That's why these two characters are different, from jump Kazuya embraced his darker half, Tekken as a franchises when it came to lore wasn't super fleshed out till Tekken 4
@@BeyondAnimation You're lying, he literally couldn't control the devil. The devil took kazuya over, he was trying to control the devil and it took him over and became him in Tekken 2. Heihachi was able to kill him theoretically. He was being rebuilt but while that was happening, the devil left and went to Jin and try to take him over as well. The lore was different before Tekken 7, Tekken 7 destroyed the story and 8 tried to piece it back to what it was. In Tekken 4 kazuya would get randomly taken over by the devil and then Infront of Jin and heihachi he overcame the devil and made him his own power. He does this again against Azazel. It took kazuya 20+ years before he controlled the devil. You fight inside of his mind in Tekken 2 and he's pure devil.
What I'm saying is Kazuya wasn't rejecting the Devil like Jin has been since Tekken 3. Jin wasn't trying to control the devil he wanted it gone
said that when I saw this one segment of FFXVI. Goes to show this trope is everywhere and for good reason
I always think about how kazuya accepted the devil but Jin rejected it
Kazuya forced his devil to merge with him
Same thing with Devil May Cry, Vergil embraces his demon side and Dante hates his.
Kazuya lost devil form and gave zero f’s, he’s like oh well that was just one way to rule the world… what a chad
Just saying. I blame Heihachi for all of this
Bruv. Devil Jin is a protection of Jin that Jin didn't understand or want anything to do with it. If you played the story Jin legit says oh u were just trying to protect me and when he accepts devil Jins help he becomes angel Jin.-_- please play the game
Accepting, and growing within our flaws.
I didn’t actually know this trope had an official name, I’ve always known of it in relation to the Jungian idea of integrating the Shadow; specifically when a character’s shadow is given a personification proxy to interact with (equally allowing an internal change arc to be fought in an external way), it’s cool to know it has an official trope name as it’s definitely a favourite trope of mine! 🥰
Kingdom hearts and bleach in one video, best shit ever
This video hit its target demographic 🔥🔥🔥
AS IT SHOULD
Riku is my favorite his “Road to Dawn” is iconic and stick to me.
I came in this video expecting some Jin love due to the thumbnail....I left completely satisfied.
This was another great video on analysing my favorite troupe in fiction.
Any chance we may get some tekken analysis in the future?
We might you never know
Language is just a trope of sounds. Thoughts are neural tropes since thoughts are just overused neural patterns. Some thoughts are memetic and are now a trope within a trope and then since entertainment is also filled with tropes, that means our entertainment is a trope(entertainment itself) within a trope(the medium of movies/series) created by a trope (thoughts) within another trope(memetic ideas) expressed in another trope(language) and so on and so forth.
You could even say that matter is a trope of existence since matter is overused.
For a little more context regarding Jin, its mentioned in his Tekken 8 character episode intro that during Tekken 6 Jin wasn't being controlled but he was under the influence of the devil gene.
The thumbnail let me know immediately that this video was going to be a banger. Although I don't love Tekken as much, seeing Nomura & Kubo's art in the same place got me cheesing to no end
6:13 Can we take a second to appreciate just how *RAW* that image looks?
KH rep will always get a like in this house
(Sorry for my bad english and this might be a very long text)
I have 3 exemples of the monster within that i really like: Sol Badguy (Guilty Gear), Ragna the Bloodedge (BlazBlue) and Zero (Megaman)
Sol Badguy lived his life as a Gear (Biomechanic life form that causes destruction where they go) hunter. But Sol is also a gear, and battles everyday to not enter in a carnage mode. Sol have a power up mode called Dragon Install, where he enters in a controled version of his gear form, but whenever he installs he loose a bit of his humanity.
After defeating Justice, the king of gears, he is asked why he can't be controled like the other gears, Sol reveals that Justice is the first gear, but he is the prototype one. This means that cultures being erased, bajilions of deaths, chaos and destruction were, even if he was forced, his fault.
"Sol is a traitor of his own kind and responsable of the problems of the world. He is the Guilty Gear."
Ragna the Bloodedge have a similar story to Sol. In the world where he lives, the Black Beast (a Kaiju that was destroying the world) is defeated by the six heroes. After the defeat of the beast the world rebuild himself in 13 city states.
Ragna lives with his brother Jin and his sister Sara in a church with the hero Jubei. However, Jin made friends with a mysterious man who influenced him to burn his house. In the fire Ragna lost his arm and Sara disapeared. Ragna then wakes up with the arm of the Black Beast: the Azure Grimoire. In BlazBlue people have the power to use magic particles from the air, called ARS. Ragna's ARS is the Soul Eater, wich let him drain a bit of the foes health in his attacks. Ragna also have the power up mode called Blood Kain, wich lets him steal more life at cost of having his own life slowing draining too. Years later Ragna went to the 13th city state Kagtsuchi to find out where his sister is and to destroy the Norvus Orbis Livrarium (who is an evil goverment who put his head at the biggest bounty in the world).
Zero: A mysterious, cold hearted reploid (a robot who is a perfect copy of a human and have free will), and a Maverick (A reploid who rebeil himself against the humanity, a condition that can be achieved by get contact with the maverick virus or just hating humans) hunter. Zero have high combat experience and abilities, being the best Maverick hunter of his army. He is also partner of the reploid X, who is a bit naive, but have a strong sense of justice,is an awesome pacifist and have great potential.
Zero and X fight against Mavericks in this never ending war. Every night Zero have nightmares of an old man telling him to destroy his rival. Also instead of becoming Maverick upon getting contact with the virus, he becomes stronger, while X is just immune. Signas, their boss, notice that and send him to investigate the giant spaceship full of virus that is going to infect the whole planet.
Here, Zero disapears and X is going to investigate. X them find Zero in a full Maverick Aura. Zero reveals that he is a creation of Dr. Wily while X is a creation of Dr. Light. (Huge Megaman lore incoming!)
Wily and light were teamates in the robot school, but Light always recieved the fame for their creations. Wliy goes mad and steal Light's most powerfull robots to destroy the world. Light them have to sacrfice his robot wich he considers a son, Rock, transfoming him into the super fighting robot Megaman. Then Megaman and Wily fight each other for years, but Wily was creating a very dangerous robot, even more powerfull than Megaman and that could destroy the world. Light knew this was too much for Rock, and started to creating a robot that could not only defeat that menace, but also be a full human being with free will.
Those robots where X and Zero. X was found first and all reploids were clones of him, with some defects. Zero was found later, by a general called Sigma. However zero awekens and pass all his viruses to Sigma. Sigma started to hate humans, trying to kill them. He went Maverick. The first Maverick. All of this never ending war, with a lot of innocent deaths was Zero's fault, even if he didnt wanted to be created.
Wow that was a lot of text i hope i managed to explain those characters a lot. (I edited because i forgot to put the th in 13)
Tekken have great characters, even non-mishimas have a lot of potential for a great story. Its just sad that these characters (I am talking specifically about Asuka tho) are not as developed compared to the Mishimas.
The Tekken 8 story mode cemented the franchise as the greatest fighting game series of all time and put both Jin Kazama and Kazuya Mishima as the best fighting game characters of all time.
Like bro it was Street Fighter, MK, Tekken… yk? But Tekken 8 dropped… man. Tekken is truly the greatest fighting game franchise, Tekken. It is the definitive fighter man. Tekken is in its own dimension compared to the rest.
Bro Guilty Gear is better in my opinion. Every single GG character, even the side ones, could have his own series. But you would watch a series about Adon? Christie? Me neither
@@MegafanX123 GG is just over the top craziness, I enjoy it but really I could not care to watch a show about characters like Aba, or most of the newcomer characters like Goldlewis or Giovanna, some older characters as well that aren’t around any more. Characters are too over the top, and the GG story mode writing is pretty… okay, I couldn’t get pass how ass it looked since they used in game models and physics for some of it lol
Tekken definitely has more boring side characters, but gotta remember most characters in Tekken are just really strong humans and not blessed/cursed with powers like the Devil gene or Raijin/Fujin, which makes it a bit cooler when you see them fighting like crazy while being normal humans.
great video man,
these 3 series are favorites of mine and it's nice to see someone talking about a great trope they all share
I feel like Ryu from (Street Fighter) has a mixture of this trope and the inner demon
Good catch especially in SFV
Did you know Xenoblade series creative uses enemy within in Pyra/Mythra and Shulk/Zanza.
I did not, I haven't played xenoblade
0:37 Ah, good old Persona 4
All these characters are some of my favorite in their respective series
Isekai , reincarnation, return-by-death , demon king this or that , tech power system , broken MC at the beginning, harem, anime being 90% female , Mc helping someone from a bunch of bullies , and especially making Christianity seem evil
ALL ARE THE WORST TROPES
Just because the church is portrayed as corrupt isn’t the same as painting a religion as evil. It makes sense when you consider that Japanese folks see Christianity the same we view greek mythology. There’s nothing wrong with a large female cast especially if it’s aimed at a female audience
@@dc7981 not really especially when you know dang well it’s for fanservice
@@lildiglit826 Yeah fanservice for the women that is when the shirtless hot guys show up for the main group of girls to fawn over lol. It’s basic Shoujo/Magical girls stuff lol. If it’s a mainly female cast in a shonen tho? Yeah you right
@@lildiglit826 You gotta expand your horizons if you think a female cast automatically mean widespread fanservice
@@thegk-verse4216 of course
D. Jin and white ichigo are my Gs
Honestly Jin's version of this was so poetic, especially with all of the callbacks to previous games and events
I always loved this trope, part of me wants this trope if they end up making a Devil May Cry prequel, to me it always makes sense that sparda got into a humans body and went into a heroes journey
Never knew there was a term for the trope. W for using the goat Riku. If I had to give slight criticism id say I personally don't like how your lines run over each other. It makes it sound like you're cutting yourself off after most line reads.
Definitely finna check out your other videos after this. Good shit.
Yeah gotta clean up the audio editing
Nice video. I saw a lot of similarities between Bleach and Tekken, as a fan of both, so the Tekken 8 story mode was a pleasant surprise. I almost shed tears at the last part of the story, when Jin starts using both Mishima style and Kazama style(unlocking T3 and T4 Jin moves, and Jun's moves), and confronts his worst and best self( and Kazuya ofc). Also love some interactions between characters at the start of the rounds. Like Eddy forgiving Jin.
Btw which character is your main in Tekken 8? I main Leo (my secondary were Noctis and Lucky Chloe in Tekken 7)
Tekken 8s story is dope, Harada is a fan of Bleach and Kubo a fan of Tekken. T8 really rectified that trash Heihachi retcon by using Devil Jin.
My main in Tekken since 6 has been Lars, in tt2 it was lars jun and slim bob, in 7 I also dabbled with Kazumi, Leo and Xaoyu, in T8 still lars, reina and jun.
Literally the drowning scene in Tekken 8 literally reminds me of Kingdom Hearts
But instead it's riku drowning and Ansem trying to reacn him 😭
But the thing that makes this trope the best is this quote from Dream Drop Distance.
"Consume the darkness and Return it to light "
That literally sums up this trope
It was based off the painting with the devil Lucifer. Alot of those moments were
I could be wrong, but I remember someone saying for the longest time that Harada was trying to make Jin a big bad evil guy, but basically everyone else on the Tekken team kept telling him no. So at this point I’m always wondering what Harada’s head canon’s been all this time
A good new thing with this trope was mob from mob psycho specifically in season 3
Great video :)
Please lower the volume of the music cut ins though
This trope is always fye
Your videos are too well done to have this little views and attention, great video man!
I appreciate that! I gotta be more consistent!!
Favorite video from you twin
Fear the wrath of god - this if from special intro with Miguel in t6.
Also his demon glove is holding a globe right in front of Jin's throne in t6.
In the scenario campaign you could visit a train of nightmares, hardest level in the game... This is the Devil Jin's stage. Also some gargoyles.
Riku and Zuko have some of the best redemption arcs in fiction imo
My favorite character using this trope is Shiki Tohno and Shiki Nanaya. While Tohno is a normal guy, Nanaya is his dark impulses that while it can happen sometimes, it can also hinder him. You see glimpses of this in the OG Tsukihime, but it is in Kagetsu Tohya that it really shines.
Taukihime fan spotted!
My favorite example of the trope is Tusbasa from Beyblade
Literally writing this character rn lol
Any chance we could get the track list for this vid?
Yeah bro it'll come in a couple days
I love the persona 4 sounds!
whats the song playing in the background? 3:25 I have searching for it for a long time
It's going down persona 3 reload
7:00 I love the video but I just have one question
I really like the idea of devil Jin not being as evil as would like to think he is but then what do you have to say about his character story ending in t8
Would just be really curious to hear what you have to say about devil character ending
The character stories in Tekken 8 aren't canon, so I don't put much thought Into it cuz the conflict with the story. In t6 devil jins character story just made him fight aezel and almost lose the Devil power
Devil jins character episode ending still falls in line with what the story laid out for his character. Everyone around Jin was being hunted down and killed. This caused his emotions to get the better of Jin and let his Devil counter part break out and "protect" him by seeking vengeance. With all his loved ones killed it threw him into a rage that wanted revenge on the world and his Devil counter part took that emotion to the extreme
What is the song that is played when transitioning from ichigo to Devil Jin at 4:06?
Tekken 7 the long goodbye
@@BeyondAnimation the long goodbye
Yup derp
The story made me main Jin for the first time. Not sure about the angel Jin form though
What about Guts and the beast of darkness?
There is no trope there's only the story with this
good video but my critique is that the music you play between your transitions from subject to subject it frickin loud while your voice audio volume is too low.
Thanks, and I'm glad that someone else thinks the same for once.
whats the song that played during the bleach section?
It's going down persona 3 reload
I think cloud has a subtle from of this trope
Did you play rebirth bro?
@@BeyondAnimation nah just finished the original cant wait to start rebrith
Og ff7 is my jam. Played it after remake such a good game. One day I wanna talk about Cloud. Really wanna talk about rebirth
Man the story was insane especially in disc 2 i was so hooked on it even though it was spoiled for me
I'm a simple person. I see Riku I click
I love kingdom hearts
Don't we all
My GOAT RIKU 🐐
shout out to path to dawn characters. gotta be one of my favorite genders.
W video
W comment
Whats the song thats playing at 6:00?
The long goodbye tekken 7
00:50 almost a minute of you struggling to read a TV Tropes page was hard to sit through
I don't really get it aren't all these examples "Enemy within", even with the explanation at the start I still don't comprehend the distinction.
The enemy within is a seperate entity
The enemy without IS yourself taking form. But they enemy without can also be the enemy within
4:07 OST ??? Great vid btw
Thr Long Goodbye Tekken 7
@@BeyondAnimation Thanks man, I knew I had heard it somewhere before, keep up the good work, you just gained a new sub
👍🏾
man tekken was always great but tekken 8 is a whole nother level
Ayo, that spoiler warning at the beginning is way to brief my man; you got me restarting the vid 3 time mashing play/pause to catch it.
I mean tropes aren't necessarly a bad thing but you shouldn't construct a story with tropes in mind
One word:Execution
I'm tired of hearing people say its cliche not its not what you meant trying to say is its plain,boring and shallow writing of the character
Persona 4
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Hey nice video Tekken nerd here.....
Hworang never defeated JIN never thas non-canon people or fans made too many head-canon stuff like this... The first time jin was lost a fight canon lorewise was in tekken 8 in the begining against Kazuya due to jin got weaked badly and kazuya now is stronger than ever.... in T4 jin basicaly Defeat 2 mishimas head to head like nothing... then fly away... how tf Hworang defeat jin??? only jin ending is canon 1, he's main character and 2. tekken 6 connection he became the head of zaibutsu and in tekken 5 Devil jin never actually awakend atleast not after jin waked up in Broken Forest. jin just felt a strong Threats and connecton within that was only reason he got in T5 Tournament...
Why do you think Hworang was after jin lol After all Tournaments 3-4-5-6 and in 7 he went to middle east just to fight jin but instead for first time encounters Devil jin... and even in 8 He was still looking to beat jin and TEKKEN 8 jin ( Weakest jin ) still beat his ass lol,
Only my boy Kazuya is close to jin power no one else and jin beat him twice lol.
bro screw the enemy within i want an inversion
the friend within
an evil character who has a good force inside