if someone gives you the finger you give them the finger back its that simple. Anyone who thinks its ok hunt someone down cause they gave you the finger must have anger issues. little kids have flipped me off before, and i just shake my head cuz they kids, and when adults do it i just flip them off back. some of yall are crazy.
+cutlerylover I'm sorry but finger forward or back was not the way to handle the problem. What does the finger signify? I think it means F you which based on your excellent discussion of male aggression and related things will generally result in someone taking offense and sometimes believing they have been "called out" and their manhood questioned. It isn't how it should have "ended" but the real issue is how it should not have "started". Love you man, but you are wrong here.
Kilo Watt where im from if someone wants to call you out they call you out. just saying. the middle finger stands for FU not im calling you out which i guess some people think that is what it means. but when the old man flips off the kids tearing up his yard i never thought he was challenging them to a fight.
+viking Mckim I had this one occasion where i was turning right and there's lots of traffic. finally i get a break when a truck was turning into my road. so i wait until i'm sure he is turning and i make my turn. not 10 seconds after i finish turning there's a woman in a older model car right behind me and she honks her horn. So at this point i knew what i did was totally fine, no one could have gotten hurt and i had enough time to turn and this lady is just pissed that she couldn't sped past the truck like she wanted to. so i blow it off. then i look in the mirror and she flips me off. then i said well fuck you too lady and flipped her off. she gets pissed but turns off the street. thats where road rage should end. the exchange of fingers and a parting of ways. nothing ever good come out of people getting out of their cars.
MrAgnosticman right flipping someone off is common when driving. usually the other person can not hear you, and you want to let them know they pissed you off using sign language kinda. I think that is much different than walking up in someones face on the street, and flipping them off 4 inches from their face.
Also, I stopped flipping people off, I just blow kisses at them now. AMAZING what that does to people psychologically. ... "If you were a good father"... Lol, HERE we go!
Dude im so proud of how you handled this, like a man or shall i say a responsible man and married man, me being a veteran with ptsd i do alot of shit people don not understand but i am getting better at it and seeing how and listening to how you resolved it put it into perspective for me and i thank you for that alot, keep up the awesome clips, love ya man.
I got sucker punched, and a knife pulled on me about a week ago in a road rage incident, and I swear as soon as i calmed down this video is one of the first things that popped in my head. I didn't do everything right either, but I learned a lot from the experience, and hopefully I can avoid it in the future. thanks for sharing.
A similar thing happened to me. I was backing out of a parking space and I guess a guy decided I was too slow and sped his car up as if to hit the side of my car (my side) only to brake 6 inches from my door and gave me the death stare. I turned to look at him. Gave him a warm smile and a lazy salute. Then I proceeded drive off feeling like a boss.
When you carry a deadly weapon you have a responsibility to be the wiser, more mature, more rational individual in any situation - if it ever happens again just repeat to yourself the line from the movies - "With great power comes great responsibility", anything less is being the fool
Dude when you have millions of people on the road driving around under stressful conditions, things will happen. But when you give people the finger you force things to degenerate quickly into a physical confrontation. You can confront people without going there. Just remember it's "road rage" its just not worth going to jail over.
and this whole situation could been avoided by NOT giving him the finger.. never give people the finger. wave at them like they were still a little baby :)
+BairyHalls I just stare them down with an evil stare letting them know that I am not happy with them, I don't know if they see me or not, but it makes me feel better.heh Usually do this when people are speeding past me going way over the speed limit and not using their turn signal when passing. That is a pet peeve of mine, you should always use your turn signal when passing and at stop lights no matter if you are on a rural or urban road. I also can't stand creepers, you know those people that creep through a 4-way turning left when they should have stayed at the stop light. But yeah I never give the finger, just the stare. Agree though, this particular situation would never have happened if Jeff wouldn't have flipped him off. That guy was in the wrong as well though from the sounds of things.
+cutlerylover Sigh.... don't flip them off. Come on Jeff... What I do when I know I just pissed someone off on the road is I give them a big smile. That usually pisses them off even more. But flipping them off is asking to start something.
+BairyHalls i have actually gotten good at giving a variety of different waves. i have one that is as dismissive as giving the finger, and when i give it the person feels as dismissed as if i gave the finger...... but they are just mostly confused instead of angry since i didnt give the finger.
It really took this video to wake me up to how mad I get driving. as soon as I identified with the guy driving the truck, I realised I have a problem. Thanks for the video geoff. Never realized I come off as a douche like that. No bueno.
I drive for a living, and used to feel a lot of road rage, and I have had my encounters with other drivers. My advice, whether you're in the right or not, if someone thinks you cut them off, throw up the peace sign, not the middle finger. Easier said than done sometimes, but it lets everyone get on with their day better.
You were absolutely right about not teaching someone a lesson. As soon as you think your going to do that or let them know who's right your going the wrong direction.
I think you handled that perfectly, BUT, if he had approached me like that, I would have had my gun pulled and in my lap ready to go just in case he tried to pull me out of that car. Traffic-wise, I don't give the finger, and when things happen to me like what happened to you, the road rage thing, I wave to them like they did me a favor. . . which probably pisses them off even more, but that's just my bonus.
When I got my concealed carry, my demeanor had to change because any fight I get into is now suddenly an armed conflict. Now my first priority is to get away, I don't care who is right or wrong I just want to get out of there. I also never escalate the situation, no middle fingers, no cussing at people, I will apologize and get the hell out of there. I'm not going to "throw my gun down and give him a fist fight", what the hell am I going to gain from that? The gun is there for a reason, it never comes off, and I do absolutely everything possible to not have to use it. You're awesome jeff, but you might want to rethink your tactics, this situation should have been completely avoided.
You did the right thing brother. In situations like this I try to do everything in my power to de escalate. It really is never worth it. You and I are from the road rage capital of America, so I see it almost daily.
Hi, I just wanted to say that I totally related to this as a woman. I actually had a very similar road rage experience recently like yours but with another woman. My first experience like this I might add. She followed me into a parking lot and blocked me so I couldn’t leave and wanted me to get out of my car. I didn’t so she got out and started yelling and screaming at me. We exchanged some words but ultimately I made the decision to not feed into her rage or escalate the issue because like you said you just don’t know who you are dealing with. So I managed To calm down , and I acknowledged she was angry which just through her off and eventually she left me alone. Then she picked a fight with another woman in the parking lot because she thought she had been recording. But I’m sure that says a lot about the type of person she is. But you are right in saying that these things happen in a matter of seconds and lives could be changed if we let out anger get the best of us over things that are not worth it. It made me feel better to hear about your experience, thanks for sharing.
Great story Jeff. I rarely comment on any videos, but I used to be the same way when I was younger. I used to go road rage crazy no matter whose fault it was. Luckily now being 43 and the father of 3 I very very rarely get angry at stuff like this anymore. I had a situation where I guy wouldn't let me over the other day and I needed to get on the highway. So I came on over anyway. The guy was honking and screaming at me, etc etc etc. He didn't follow me.....maybe because I drive a lifted 'O3 f150 with a sticker on the back that says "I love my pitbull" but that's really beside the point. When he was screaming and cussing me and blaring on his horn, I just gave him a smile and a wave and moved on. It really takes a LOT To make me angry these days and I'm thankful for that. All in all this situation turned out not so bad for everyone. The guy got to walk back to his truck with his family, pissed off or not, and everything turned out ok. Much better than lying there with holes in him. 👍
It happens. I have learned through my life what kind of man I am. When I grew into manhood, I had a lot of growing up to do. My perspective changed when I was younger, and out drinking with friends, and a fight broke out. A broken piece of tooth belonging to guy who I punched in the mouth, got imbedded in my left middle knuckle. I didn't realize that it was in my knuckle until after we left. I got a massive infection in my hand, and it moved up my arm. it was full of puss, and I was inches away from amputation. A week in the hospital on an IV, and I made it through. Sometimes even if you do "beat their ass" it can go very badly for you. When you know who you are, and what you are capable of doing, you will no longer feel the need to prove yourself, and escalate the situation. I'm all for cooling of a heated situation. Things can turn badly fast.
The best way to avoid road rage is to not allow the other individual to get to you. The moment you gave him the finger you allowed him to get to you. I drive a lot, I always pack when I drive, and I never give the other driver a reason for rage. It just isn't worth it, no matter who is at fault. The way I see it is not worth having to shoot someone over a road rage incident. And too many people are just on the edge and sometimes it just takes a look to make them explode. You, as well as the other driver, were very lucky. And I hope both, you and the other guy, learned something from it.
As hard as it may be, it's simply luck of the draw that the guy wasn't a complete lunatic and ready to take things all the way. You never know who you're dealing with on the road. Defensive driving should always be at the forefront. I've fallen for it just as others may have, but you have to remind yourself that any slight in that moment, means nothing! Stay on defense and get to your destination safely!
Whereas I do believe mistake were made on both sides at the beginning it looks like you were the first to start "snapping out of it" and regain your level head. That's good. Something I've learned from my experience with concealed carry and the research I've done is that because *you* are armed, you are held to a *higher* moral standard and responsibility then someone who is not carrying concealed. You might try to resist giving the finger in the future.
Big respect, man. You show the totally mature mindset of a responsible grownup. The thing about assessing other guys, though... one of the things about doing martial arts like judo or BJJ or wrestling (a combative sport, IOW), is you quickly learn how you really SHOULDN'T think "oh, I can kick this guy's ass." Yeah, maybe he's 4" shorter and 10 years older and 50 pounds lighter....but maybe he was a state level collegiate wrestler. You never know.
I'm sure everybody has been in your situation. You handled it the best you could and that's all anyone could do. You set a good example for other people. Everybody needs to need to try and talk things out before things get out of control. I think other people admire reasoning power over fighting power. It doesn't mean you can't fight but it means you know you have other choices. You're supposed to handle things in a civil matter when given the option otherwise we'd be no different than animals.
+Satan'sOnion carryuing a gun does not change how you react to people and shouldnt if a personj wishes to fist fight me my options arent to shoot them or just get beat up, lol, the gun is an option and an option only
There was a road rage situation here in Brisbane a few months ago. Both men ended out of their cars on a major highway standing toe to toe,. Unfortunately one man ended up being hit and killed by a truck. How this happened will be determined before a judge at some stage.
ive been with my girlfriend for over 3 years we are engaged now and I totally will do anything to avoid a fight of any kind because I think of how it could affect her, and it is really never worth it. Especially since the guy who starts it has some psychological issues and needs to fulfill his id ego, so he really deserves empathy more than getting punched
I never had a case of road rage. Its too silly! Day after day i watch people running around doing stupid stuff in their car and for what? Where the fuck are they going that is do important they just gotta get there as quick as possible. 30 years of driving no tickets, no arguments with aholes, no wreaks. So l just smile when people cut me off cause i know they have no such record. 😃
I took off at a freeway onramp, one of those side-by-side drag race onramps. I guess the dude next to me took umbrance with the fact that my car was much faster and decided to aggressively tail-gate me for miles. Finally, he decided to get next to me attempting to cut me off. Leah looked over and flipped him off, LOL. So this escalated things. He started swerving at me etc. So she called 911 and held her phone to the window (he was on our right side, me in the fast lane). He realized we were calling the cops and backed off. That de-escalated things. Have a kid, that ends your giving a crap about other other people on the road. I drive much slower now. I think its just human nature.
As a young single man, damn if I had a dime for every instance of road rage beat-downs I'd have a pocket full of coins. After the kids came... Only twice and both times I deescalated... So I feel you.
I remember a story my uncle told me about a road rage experience that happened to him years ago. I forget the details but he apparently pissed off another driver. My uncle was and still is very confrontational, not a bully or really aggressive, just not about to give up an inch. He's cursed with the 'big nuts' syndrome. They both got out and met between their pickup trucks when the other guy pulled a pistol. This happened on a small road out in the middle of nowhere down in south Texas. My uncle turned and walked back to his truck. He said that was the longest short walk of his life, expecting to be shot in the back any second.
Ahh Jeff buddy. I always agree with u, but u finally said something that does not jive with me. You said u would take off ur weapons to fight, good step but still a nono. Those of us who carry weapons need to leave our egos at the door. If someone wants to fight u and your armed you walk away if you have the means to. I used to be the same way, if someone wanted to duke it out I was all for it even if I'd get my ass beat. But when I started carrying I realized I need to walk away from every situation unless it is life threatening. Sure, I'll look like a pussy walking away when someone is disrespecting me but that's fine, that's what needs to be done. don't fight unless there is no way other way out
***** SOOOO edgy bro,...I think it's pretty clear I have my own opinions, thats why I made the comment I made. Just because I agree with the the things someone says does not mean I don't have my own opinions. The thing is, I'm an adult. I don't need to be so edgy that I disagree with every single thing every other person on the face of the planet says to be my own person.
lol my wife reaches over to hit the horn all the time. I been a truck driver for 16 years now. Road rage dose not happen with me. Ive seen it all. Id rather let em get mad speed away and crash. Someone wanna fight me they just about have to attack me. Not much you can do to make me lose my temper anymore. Plus the fact that I have a weapon means that I have to be calmer. if things escalate it could end bad. Id rather drive away.
Giving him the finger was your mistake. I used to give people the finger, now I just smile and wave. It means the same thing to me and won't provoke a fight.
I found your channel a few minutes ago, it popped up in 'maybe you're interested videos', saw your recent Ganzo review, saw the 'bob-a-loo' cigar review, and now this one... great message man. The guy was probably a good fella, you seem like a good fella, but it all gets messed up for whatever frustrations we have in the moment and, as you say, shit just happens. Subbed the channel, as I see lots of reviews to watch... greetings from Portugal!
Glad things did not escalate. In my state of MN two days ago during a road rage incident a lady was shot 4 times after honking a another car. She is expected to survive and this happened during rush hour traffic in a construction zone.
Frankly speaking, you played a Stupid game (letting your ego get the best of you and flipping the bird) and won a Stupid prize (a dude Rage-tarding at you because of it). In situations like this...*especially* as an armed citizen, you lose absolutely nothing by making an apology, even if the other guy is 100% wrong, and your "apology" is as truthful as Bill & Hillary Clinton. That way, potential witnesses can say you apologized in case bro wants to get physical, thus making you look like the good guy during any resultant legal issues. Some advice I took to heart when I started carrying was Masaad Ayoob's statement in "In the Gravest Extreme" that (paraphrasing) once a citizen starts carrying a firearm, they lose their 'right' to have an ego/talk smack/flip the bird/etc. I had a similar experience where a dude honked as he passed me as I was trying to push my stalled car to the side of the road to let him go by. I yelled "F U!!", he locks up the tires, puts it in Park, ducks down to the passenger seat like he is getting something (a gun, my instincts told me) and gets out raging and puffed up. I had to deflate him by showing my holstered 9mm and inviting him to be on his merry way. Glad this one worked out for you, bro..! Live an learn, eh?
"He was unarmed". You don't know that. What really happened was you didn't SEE any weapons on him. This is why street fights with people you don't know SUCK. Trayvon Martin could tell you about getting in fights with people who look "unarmed", except he's dead from a gunshot wound.
+HelmutDoork I wasnt concerned with hidden weapons I wanted to be sure he wasnt holding a weapon so my reaction wasnt to pull my gun and point it at him, had he had a weapon thats exactly what I would have done, if he had a weapon and chose not to brandish it neither would I
+cutlerylover - I wasn't talking about brandishing. I was talking about the possibility where someone thinks they are getting in to a "fair" fight and finds out the hard way it isn't. George Zimmerman didn't use his gun until he was getting a ground and pound. A friend of mine told me about some dude who thought he was going in to a "fair" fight and got piped in to a hospital. There was no "brandishing" beforehand, he got blindsided. Not fighting that guy in the truck was the right decision.
+HelmutDoork yeah man people die all the time from a tiny little bump to head, you could take a pounding all day and it only bruise next day tiny little bump, its all over. all lot of the deaths that occur from fist fists are when they have hit the ground/curb. its always better to deescalate but this fair fight nonsense. what if you didnt see his grown up son in the back and you and him were rolling round on the floor he goes in the trunk for a tire iron.
Great philosophy bud! This helps me because I can relate. My wife has suffered the consequences of me being a knucklehead on the road. Thank God I've come to my senses more and more. Thank you for posting this!
Nice video bro. My road rage is getting better, but I still let loose sometimes. You never know who has a gun that'll use it on ya just b/c you mean mug them
Jeff did what grown men do, well done. I always thought road rage only happened with young guys but it sounded like this knucklehead was middle aged. It takes a strong man to say "Sorry, I shouldn't have done that". You won't even remember it in a few hours of doing what you planned to do that day. Beating someone up because they made you hit the brakes hard is no good. If you win the guy might find your home and set it on fire in the middle of the night.
Thank you Jeff for sharing your story I have gotten into road rage and I acted stupid and almost got into an accident and I totally regret doing that after watching your video. I'm glad you didn't do anything stupid and ruined your and your wife's life.
Jeff your channel is awesome, I wasn't even half interested in knives, tools, survival, etc, anything before finding your channel. I just enjoy your discussions and hearing your input on things, keep doing what you do, you won't lose this subscriber.
Sounds like you handled the situation correctly. I've learned the road rage lesson the hard way , and I'm glad you don't have to. I had a pistol pointed in my face because I gave someone the finger. Be safe!
You did the right thing by defusing the situation. I personally, would have lock the door roll up my window, ignored him altogether, back up and find a way around him. I do carry a gun too but as long as I'm inside my car locked up, and I have an escape route there's no excuse for me to even flash it. I wouldn't even bother to give him the time of day.
Jeff, I love you man and, as a fellow CCW permit holder, I’m concerned about your mindset. Those who carry must go out of their way to avoid conflict and confrontations. We must be more mellow and discreet with an easy-going attitude. We take the high road. We would never flip-off somebody no matter what they did. For example, in slow traffic, before pulling out in front of another vehicle, roll down your window, get eye contact with the other driver, wave in a friendly manner with a smile, use your body language to ask permission to pull out, and give a friendly wave afterwards. If you accidentally do something that sets someone off, quickly apologize, say that you made a mistake and you did a stupid thing. Do and say whatever it takes to deescalate the situation. Do your best to seem submissive (but only in your outward appearance, not internally, in case things escalate). Run/drive away if you must and can. There’s no shame in running away in order to prevent a potentially dangerous situation from getting out of hand. Just keep an eye on the other person in case they start to come after you and you are forced to turn and engage. Prevention and deescalation must be high priorities in the mindset of a CCW permit holder.
Actually I used to work for nation nationwide and other insurance companies. Women are known to have more road rage than men, personally I've never see a guy with it except once. But I've seen plenty of women with it.
I love how so many people here have such a negative reaction to a story that was told by one of the more fair, moral, and honest youtubers here. Jeff shared a story to everyone, not sparing any of the details. Thank you Jeff, for your continued honesty and morality. Always a pleasure to watch your videos :)
simple answer...put cal in reverse and drive around him...you sitting in your car is a bad move...he could of walked to your car and blown you away.....jeff wanting to get in a fight is foolish to....your duty is to retreat unless attacked...unless you have 20k for an attorney to defend you, because you will be sued possibly charged
1. Never, ever give up control of your weapons 2. Avoid physical confrontations at all costs 3. A "thank you" wave, even though you intended is sarcastically, would have diffused the situation 4. By flipping him the "bird" you became the aggressor. You offered up "fighting words." Please flip 3 and 4 I am too young to die and way to old too take an ass woopin' so I will do what ever it takes to to make it home to my family. Stay safe my friend.
Bro logic: Guy flips you off in front of your family, you drive 45mph in a parking lot, curse a lot in front of them, and start a fight like a good role model. Great job Dad, your kids will be in jail in no time.
Marlon Mendez Ho logic: Cut someone off, use vulgar gestures, then brandish multiple weapons when person.... not hitting me or my vehicle.... asks why I would do such a thing endangering his wife and children. I'd like to see how you'd act in that situation mrs. Mendez.
quite recently i was stuck in a doctors office for long enough for the room to feel like it's shrinking. i was sick, and pissed, so i sped down "main street" where the speed limit is 30 or less, pedestrians, traffic, blah blah blah... i was doing 45mph or more, swerving traffic, the moment my rage ended was when this lady was right in front of me. i left a 10 foot strip of rubber and stopped to let her go... i calmed down a little bit, but i just wanted to go to the pharmacy and go home... when i stopped at the next light, i saw a state cop in the next lane. he pulled me over and gave me a warning... supposedly about $500 worth of tickets but he gave me a break. don't rage. its not worth it.
Girls do it too. About 7 years ago, I had a guy who tried to run me off the road. I went around him, and slammed on my breaks to fuck with him. He ended up following me to the store I was going to and confronted me in the parking lot. Luckily all that happened was we yelled at each other, but thank God he didn't have a gun! Your story was very scary. I am glad you are okay.
I experienced road rage on night while WALKING MY DOG. A guy in a jacked-up, custom-painted, after-market mufflered 4x4 pickup came at us at well over the speed limit and wouldn't move over for us. I flipped him off, called him a jackoff, and went on my way. He slammed on his brakes, did a Y-turn, and came back. He got out of the truck and came at me, raising hell. He got halfway across the road when he noticed that my 80-pound dog (who's a total sweetheart) was interested. He got back in the truck, turned back around, and headed home at close to the speed limit. Moral of the story: road rage is for idiots and cowards.
I once experienced a road-rage situation very similar to yours. The guy chased me in the parking lot of a restaurant, parked in front of me, stepped out of his car and was fuming. I soon found out he was an old man that didn't seem like a threat, though I did watch his hands just in case. In the end, I didn't want to be responsible for causing him a heart attack, so I just apologize to him, even though I'd done nothing wrong. He was just a very anxious old man. The reason he got mad, was he was 20 km/h in a 50 km/h zone. At 20 km/h, you're just barely moving and he didn't like that I was tail gating him, which I wasn't, as I kept a two-car distance between my car and his. Personally, as long as someone doesn't lay a hand on me, I'm ok with verbal insults.
+Julius Gonzo yeah, some people got the message and I hope it helped some to keep calm in bad situations and try to get out of it safely without violence, sadly some people missed the message and decided toi just take sides with the guy who acted poorly, lol I admit to being wrong in flipping the bird, but some people watched the video and only thought wow Jeffs a dick, lol sucks they dont see the big picture
THANK YOU!!!!!!! Carrying a weapon is never intended for absolutely every situation. It's o oh when your life is in serious danger. If someone wants to fight me legit I'll fight him.
People piss me off all the time but my dad has to be the biggest Saint ever. I remember growing up and even now when a person flips him off or does something stupid he only has one thing to say and do. "Bless You" and smiles sincerely with a wave. Yes he is and was a big hippy back in the day but wow, just wow. I try to think of him every time I want to get pissed.
I was hit by a drunk driver a few years back while driving home from work at night. I got out of the car and beat his ass so much I put him in the hospital. Almost feel bad about it.
I have road rage too. Its in my blood. :) Dad was driving 5mph over the speed limit in the city. A guy got pissed he sped in front of him and slammed the break on. This happened until he got a few streets away from house. He pulled over. Kid got out had nothing. Dad left gun in car. They cussed each other. Kid said he would hit him but he had glasses. My dad said "You just fucked up now." And gently placed his glasses on the roof and put up his fists and said. "Please hit me because I can't hit you first!" The kid backed up and said something like he was lucky he had somewhere to be. You did the right thing. I think he wanted to seem all macho. I will bet you he told his wife. You said sorry to her and the kids and it won't happen again. Then again if he didn't see the neck knife or the one on your mirror. He might have escalated it more. There are whack jobs out there. Good thing you didn't tape it. That make people like him see red like a damn bull
I remember seeing just an awkward road rage incident, a man and woman started yelling at each other in heavy traffic (one cut the other off) and they were flipping each other the bird and cussing each other out while stuck in traffic and then they ended up pulling up to the same gas station...and awkwardly half heartedly kept arguing
I like explicit language version of Jeff, is seems more personal and more real.
You handled it well. This world is full of angry people. Good on ya!
if someone gives you the finger you give them the finger back its that simple. Anyone who thinks its ok hunt someone down cause they gave you the finger must have anger issues. little kids have flipped me off before, and i just shake my head cuz they kids, and when adults do it i just flip them off back. some of yall are crazy.
+viking Mckim thats really where it should have ended a finger back...
+cutlerylover I'm sorry but finger forward or back was not the way to handle the problem. What does the finger signify? I think it means F you which based on your excellent discussion of male aggression and related things will generally result in someone taking offense and sometimes believing they have been "called out" and their manhood questioned. It isn't how it should have "ended" but the real issue is how it should not have "started". Love you man, but you are wrong here.
Kilo Watt where im from if someone wants to call you out they call you out. just saying. the middle finger stands for FU not im calling you out which i guess some people think that is what it means.
but when the old man flips off the kids tearing up his yard i never thought he was challenging them to a fight.
+viking Mckim I had this one occasion where i was turning right and there's lots of traffic. finally i get a break when a truck was turning into my road. so i wait until i'm sure he is turning and i make my turn. not 10 seconds after i finish turning there's a woman in a older model car right behind me and she honks her horn. So at this point i knew what i did was totally fine, no one could have gotten hurt and i had enough time to turn and this lady is just pissed that she couldn't sped past the truck like she wanted to. so i blow it off. then i look in the mirror and she flips me off. then i said well fuck you too lady and flipped her off. she gets pissed but turns off the street.
thats where road rage should end. the exchange of fingers and a parting of ways. nothing ever good come out of people getting out of their cars.
MrAgnosticman right flipping someone off is common when driving. usually the other person can not hear you, and you want to let them know they pissed you off using sign language kinda. I think that is much different than walking up in someones face on the street, and flipping them off 4 inches from their face.
Everyone makes mistakes. I love how there are so many people in the comments are perfect and have never made a mistake.
Also, I stopped flipping people off, I just blow kisses at them now. AMAZING what that does to people psychologically.
... "If you were a good father"... Lol, HERE we go!
I second the blowing kisses! Plus it makes you laugh, and that’s always a good time.
Here's the thing Cutlery Lover, if you flip people off you can expect to get into situations like this.
yup
"Had I not given him the finger he probably wouldn't have gotten out"
--CutleryLover, this video, fully aware of this fact.
Just keep driving, forget about it. The only time to react is when it becomes a clear imminent threat.
Dude im so proud of how you handled this, like a man or shall i say a responsible man and married man, me being a veteran with ptsd i do alot of shit people don not understand but i am getting better at it and seeing how and listening to how you resolved it put it into perspective for me and i thank you for that alot, keep up the awesome clips, love ya man.
Simple solution, don't give people the finger. Its gas on the fire that is just starting.
yeah, he said that's what he thinks set him off. If you want to avoid confrontation definitely don't do anything that could escalate it.
Almost get into a car wreck because of someones assholeness and then type your reaction
I got sucker punched, and a knife pulled on me about a week ago in a road rage incident, and I swear as soon as i calmed down this video is one of the first things that popped in my head. I didn't do everything right either, but I learned a lot from the experience, and hopefully I can avoid it in the future. thanks for sharing.
A similar thing happened to me. I was backing out of a parking space and I guess a guy decided I was too slow and sped his car up as if to hit the side of my car (my side) only to brake 6 inches from my door and gave me the death stare. I turned to look at him. Gave him a warm smile and a lazy salute. Then I proceeded drive off feeling like a boss.
Good choice.
+Rad Bromance that is pretty hillarious, ty for the story. Next time I get into a negative altercation, I'll turn into Mr.Rogers.
+Axe Avier I actually laughed. I'll try that too.
Your a wise man speaking from the heart and soul love your vids man
When you carry a deadly weapon you have a responsibility to be the wiser, more mature, more rational individual in any situation - if it ever happens again just repeat to yourself the line from the movies - "With great power comes great responsibility", anything less is being the fool
Dude when you have millions of people on the road driving around under stressful conditions, things will happen. But when you give people the finger you force things to degenerate quickly into a physical confrontation. You can confront people without going there. Just remember it's "road rage" its just not worth going to jail over.
and this whole situation could been avoided by NOT giving him the finger.. never give people the finger. wave at them like they were still a little baby :)
+BairyHalls yeah
+BairyHalls I just stare them down with an evil stare letting them know that I am not happy with them, I don't know if they see me or not, but it makes me feel better.heh Usually do this when people are speeding past me going way over the speed limit and not using their turn signal when passing. That is a pet peeve of mine, you should always use your turn signal when passing and at stop lights no matter if you are on a rural or urban road. I also can't stand creepers, you know those people that creep through a 4-way turning left when they should have stayed at the stop light. But yeah I never give the finger, just the stare. Agree though, this particular situation would never have happened if Jeff wouldn't have flipped him off. That guy was in the wrong as well though from the sounds of things.
Fuck that. Fuck that guy and fuvk u for being scared. People are assholes and sometimes they need to know it
+cutlerylover Sigh.... don't flip them off. Come on Jeff... What I do when I know I just pissed someone off on the road is I give them a big smile. That usually pisses them off even more. But flipping them off is asking to start something.
+BairyHalls i have actually gotten good at giving a variety of different waves. i have one that is as dismissive as giving the finger, and when i give it the person feels as dismissed as if i gave the finger...... but they are just mostly confused instead of angry since i didnt give the finger.
It really took this video to wake me up to how mad I get driving. as soon as I identified with the guy driving the truck, I realised I have a problem. Thanks for the video geoff. Never realized I come off as a douche like that. No bueno.
That one little finger can really stir up some trouble. Glad to hear it didn't escalate too far, remember Gus needs you.
As a gun owner, you need to have a more calm demeanor. It seems your reaction to things, causes a lot of the problems.
Thomas Connolly are you not aware that he basically is saying that this whole video? Jesus you’re dumb
I drive for a living, and used to feel a lot of road rage, and I have had my encounters with other drivers. My advice, whether you're in the right or not, if someone thinks you cut them off, throw up the peace sign, not the middle finger. Easier said than done sometimes, but it lets everyone get on with their day better.
+Bucephalus better way is just don't acknowledge them at all but to each his own
You were absolutely right about not teaching someone a lesson. As soon as you think your going to do that or let them know who's right your going the wrong direction.
I think you handled that perfectly, BUT, if he had approached me like that, I would have had my gun pulled and in my lap ready to go just in case he tried to pull me out of that car.
Traffic-wise, I don't give the finger, and when things happen to me like what happened to you, the road rage thing, I wave to them like they did me a favor. . . which probably pisses them off even more, but that's just my bonus.
When I got my concealed carry, my demeanor had to change because any fight I get into is now suddenly an armed conflict. Now my first priority is to get away, I don't care who is right or wrong I just want to get out of there. I also never escalate the situation, no middle fingers, no cussing at people, I will apologize and get the hell out of there. I'm not going to "throw my gun down and give him a fist fight", what the hell am I going to gain from that? The gun is there for a reason, it never comes off, and I do absolutely everything possible to not have to use it. You're awesome jeff, but you might want to rethink your tactics, this situation should have been completely avoided.
You did the right thing brother. In situations like this I try to do everything in my power to de escalate. It really is never worth it. You and I are from the road rage capital of America, so I see it almost daily.
Hi, I just wanted to say that I totally related to this as a woman. I actually had a very similar road rage experience recently like yours but with another woman. My first experience like this I might add. She followed me into a parking lot and blocked me so I couldn’t leave and wanted me to get out of my car. I didn’t so she got out and started yelling and screaming at me. We exchanged some words but ultimately I made the decision to not feed into her rage or escalate the issue because like you said you just don’t know who you are dealing with. So I managed To calm down , and I acknowledged she was angry which just through her off and eventually she left me alone. Then she picked a fight with another woman in the parking lot because she thought she had been recording. But I’m sure that says a lot about the type of person she is. But you are right in saying that these things happen in a matter of seconds and lives could be changed if we let out anger get the best of us over things that are not worth it. It made me feel better to hear about your experience, thanks for sharing.
Great story Jeff. I rarely comment on any videos, but I used to be the same way when I was younger. I used to go road rage crazy no matter whose fault it was. Luckily now being 43 and the father of 3 I very very rarely get angry at stuff like this anymore. I had a situation where I guy wouldn't let me over the other day and I needed to get on the highway. So I came on over anyway. The guy was honking and screaming at me, etc etc etc. He didn't follow me.....maybe because I drive a lifted 'O3 f150 with a sticker on the back that says "I love my pitbull" but that's really beside the point. When he was screaming and cussing me and blaring on his horn, I just gave him a smile and a wave and moved on. It really takes a LOT To make me angry these days and I'm thankful for that. All in all this situation turned out not so bad for everyone. The guy got to walk back to his truck with his family, pissed off or not, and everything turned out ok. Much better than lying there with holes in him. 👍
It happens. I have learned through my life what kind of man I am. When I grew into manhood, I had a lot of growing up to do. My perspective changed when I was younger, and out drinking with friends, and a fight broke out. A broken piece of tooth belonging to guy who I punched in the mouth, got imbedded in my left middle knuckle. I didn't realize that it was in my knuckle until after we left. I got a massive infection in my hand, and it moved up my arm. it was full of puss, and I was inches away from amputation. A week in the hospital on an IV, and I made it through. Sometimes even if you do "beat their ass" it can go very badly for you. When you know who you are, and what you are capable of doing, you will no longer feel the need to prove yourself, and escalate the situation. I'm all for cooling of a heated situation. Things can turn badly fast.
You need a dash cam for the Chrysler Jeff.
Whoever hates on Jeff, Fucking FIGHT ME BITCHES!!! Jeff is love, Jeff is life.
Jeff, you are the realist RUclipsr. As always, thanks for your awesome vids
The best way to avoid road rage is to not allow the other individual to get to you. The moment you gave him the finger you allowed him to get to you. I drive a lot, I always pack when I drive, and I never give the other driver a reason for rage. It just isn't worth it, no matter who is at fault. The way I see it is not worth having to shoot someone over a road rage incident. And too many people are just on the edge and sometimes it just takes a look to make them explode. You, as well as the other driver, were very lucky. And I hope both, you and the other guy, learned something from it.
As hard as it may be, it's simply luck of the draw that the guy wasn't a complete lunatic and ready to take things all the way. You never know who you're dealing with on the road. Defensive driving should always be at the forefront. I've fallen for it just as others may have, but you have to remind yourself that any slight in that moment, means nothing! Stay on defense and get to your destination safely!
Whereas I do believe mistake were made on both sides at the beginning it looks like you were the first to start "snapping out of it" and regain your level head. That's good.
Something I've learned from my experience with concealed carry and the research I've done is that because *you* are armed, you are held to a *higher* moral standard and responsibility then someone who is not carrying concealed. You might try to resist giving the finger in the future.
Whether one is right or wrong, one shouldn't provoke the idiots. Giving the finger is a sure way to provoke the idiots.
Big respect, man. You show the totally mature mindset of a responsible grownup.
The thing about assessing other guys, though... one of the things about doing martial arts like judo or BJJ or wrestling (a combative sport, IOW), is you quickly learn how you really SHOULDN'T think "oh, I can kick this guy's ass." Yeah, maybe he's 4" shorter and 10 years older and 50 pounds lighter....but maybe he was a state level collegiate wrestler. You never know.
I'm sure everybody has been in your situation. You handled it the best you could and that's all anyone could do. You set a good example for other people. Everybody needs to need to try and talk things out before things get out of control. I think other people admire reasoning power over fighting power. It doesn't mean you can't fight but it means you know you have other choices. You're supposed to handle things in a civil matter when given the option otherwise we'd be no different than animals.
Small brains at work... lol
Ur mom
+G36Jeff is a homosexual
If you're going to carry a firearm you can't get into fistfights. Period.
Yea get in gun fights man
+Satan'sOnion carryuing a gun does not change how you react to people and shouldnt if a personj wishes to fist fight me my options arent to shoot them or just get beat up, lol, the gun is an option and an option only
cutlerylover
You shouldn't be carrying. Grow up.
There was a road rage situation here in Brisbane a few months ago. Both men ended out of their cars on a major highway standing toe to toe,.
Unfortunately one man ended up being hit and killed by a truck. How this happened will be determined before a judge at some stage.
Your storytime videos are my favorite! People can say what they want but damn Jeff you can tell a story like no other.
ive been with my girlfriend for over 3 years we are engaged now and I totally will do anything to avoid a fight of any kind because I think of how it could affect her, and it is really never worth it. Especially since the guy who starts it has some psychological issues and needs to fulfill his id ego, so he really deserves empathy more than getting punched
I never had a case of road rage. Its too silly! Day after day i watch people running around doing stupid stuff in their car and for what? Where the fuck are they going that is do important they just gotta get there as quick as possible. 30 years of driving no tickets, no arguments with aholes, no wreaks. So l just smile when people cut me off cause i know they have no such record. 😃
I never flip people off anymore. I just wave thanks and smile or do nothing. You actually escalated the situation.
I took off at a freeway onramp, one of those side-by-side drag race onramps. I guess the dude next to me took umbrance with the fact that my car was much faster and decided to aggressively tail-gate me for miles. Finally, he decided to get next to me attempting to cut me off. Leah looked over and flipped him off, LOL. So this escalated things. He started swerving at me etc. So she called 911 and held her phone to the window (he was on our right side, me in the fast lane). He realized we were calling the cops and backed off. That de-escalated things.
Have a kid, that ends your giving a crap about other other people on the road. I drive much slower now. I think its just human nature.
As a young single man, damn if I had a dime for every instance of road rage beat-downs I'd have a pocket full of coins. After the kids came... Only twice and both times I deescalated... So I feel you.
I remember a story my uncle told me about a road rage experience that happened to him years ago. I forget the details but he apparently pissed off another driver. My uncle was and still is very confrontational, not a bully or really aggressive, just not about to give up an inch. He's cursed with the 'big nuts' syndrome. They both got out and met between their pickup trucks when the other guy pulled a pistol. This happened on a small road out in the middle of nowhere down in south Texas. My uncle turned and walked back to his truck. He said that was the longest short walk of his life, expecting to be shot in the back any second.
You are one of the most agreeable people I've seen on RUclips. Subbed.
WTG Jeff it could of been really bad if any weapons were used .Glad to see you understand how fast things can go wrong ,Gerry .
Ahh Jeff buddy. I always agree with u, but u finally said something that does not jive with me. You said u would take off ur weapons to fight, good step but still a nono. Those of us who carry weapons need to leave our egos at the door. If someone wants to fight u and your armed you walk away if you have the means to. I used to be the same way, if someone wanted to duke it out I was all for it even if I'd get my ass beat. But when I started carrying I realized I need to walk away from every situation unless it is life threatening. Sure,
I'll look like a pussy walking away when someone is disrespecting me but that's fine, that's what needs to be done. don't fight unless there is no way other way out
No, you don't always agree with him. Form your own goddamn opinions.
***** SOOOO edgy bro,...I think it's pretty clear I have my own opinions, thats why I made the comment I made. Just because I agree with the the things someone says does not mean I don't have my own opinions. The thing is, I'm an adult. I don't need to be so edgy that I disagree with every single thing every other person on the face of the planet says to be my own person.
I don't get road rage. Then again I'm extremely hard to get mad.
Great video, Jeff. You have a lot of wisdom and it's fun listening to you talk.
Agreed, Jeff is your typical gun loving guy down to earth kind of guy that makes me wish more people where like him
lol my wife reaches over to hit the horn all the time. I been a truck driver for 16 years now. Road rage dose not happen with me. Ive seen it all. Id rather let em get mad speed away and crash. Someone wanna fight me they just about have to attack me. Not much you can do to make me lose my temper anymore. Plus the fact that I have a weapon means that I have to be calmer. if things escalate it could end bad. Id rather drive away.
Giving him the finger was your mistake. I used to give people the finger, now I just smile and wave. It means the same thing to me and won't provoke a fight.
I found your channel a few minutes ago, it popped up in 'maybe you're interested videos', saw your recent Ganzo review, saw the 'bob-a-loo' cigar review, and now this one... great message man.
The guy was probably a good fella, you seem like a good fella, but it all gets messed up for whatever frustrations we have in the moment and, as you say, shit just happens.
Subbed the channel, as I see lots of reviews to watch... greetings from Portugal!
I feel like watching Falling Down. lol
Great advice. Your maturity is refreshing to see. I will share this video with my son. Thanks
I always give a sarcastic thumbs up. As in 'good job buddy, good job'
love it! I clapped my hands at a guy one time. he got so mad that he didn't know what to do.
lmao that's a good one
Glad things did not escalate. In my state of MN two days ago during a road rage incident a lady was shot 4 times after honking a another car. She is expected to survive and this happened during rush hour traffic in a construction zone.
Jeff, I think the apology diffused the situation even more than the neck knife did.
Frankly speaking, you played a Stupid game (letting your ego get the best of you and flipping the bird) and won a Stupid prize (a dude Rage-tarding at you because of it). In situations like this...*especially* as an armed citizen, you lose absolutely nothing by making an apology, even if the other guy is 100% wrong, and your "apology" is as truthful as Bill & Hillary Clinton. That way, potential witnesses can say you apologized in case bro wants to get physical, thus making you look like the good guy during any resultant legal issues.
Some advice I took to heart when I started carrying was Masaad Ayoob's statement in "In the Gravest Extreme" that (paraphrasing) once a citizen starts carrying a firearm, they lose their 'right' to have an ego/talk smack/flip the bird/etc. I had a similar experience where a dude honked as he passed me as I was trying to push my stalled car to the side of the road to let him go by. I yelled "F U!!", he locks up the tires, puts it in Park, ducks down to the passenger seat like he is getting something (a gun, my instincts told me) and gets out raging and puffed up. I had to deflate him by showing my holstered 9mm and inviting him to be on his merry way. Glad this one worked out for you, bro..! Live an learn, eh?
Probably just don't flip people off then.
"He was unarmed". You don't know that. What really happened was you didn't SEE any weapons on him. This is why street fights with people you don't know SUCK. Trayvon Martin could tell you about getting in fights with people who look "unarmed", except he's dead from a gunshot wound.
+HelmutDoork I wasnt concerned with hidden weapons I wanted to be sure he wasnt holding a weapon so my reaction wasnt to pull my gun and point it at him, had he had a weapon thats exactly what I would have done, if he had a weapon and chose not to brandish it neither would I
+cutlerylover - I wasn't talking about brandishing. I was talking about the possibility where someone thinks they are getting in to a "fair" fight and finds out the hard way it isn't. George Zimmerman didn't use his gun until he was getting a ground and pound. A friend of mine told me about some dude who thought he was going in to a "fair" fight and got piped in to a hospital. There was no "brandishing" beforehand, he got blindsided.
Not fighting that guy in the truck was the right decision.
+HelmutDoork yeah man people die all the time from a tiny little bump to head, you could take a pounding all day and it only bruise next day tiny little bump, its all over. all lot of the deaths that occur from fist fists are when they have hit the ground/curb. its always better to deescalate but this fair fight nonsense. what if you didnt see his grown up son in the back and you and him were rolling round on the floor he goes in the trunk for a tire iron.
Great philosophy bud! This helps me because I can relate. My wife has suffered the consequences of me being a knucklehead on the road. Thank God I've come to my senses more and more. Thank you for posting this!
Nice video bro. My road rage is getting better, but I still let loose sometimes. You never know who has a gun that'll use it on ya just b/c you mean mug them
The line between Ass kickin, & Death is so thin.
I honestly don't think i would ever take the chance.
+ProSTEEL RAIN 18:45 Lol I am 6ft 6in 50/50 muscle/fat
Sorta Kinda intimidating
Jeff did what grown men do, well done. I always thought road rage only happened with young guys but it sounded like this knucklehead was middle aged. It takes a strong man to say "Sorry, I shouldn't have done that". You won't even remember it in a few hours of doing what you planned to do that day. Beating someone up because they made you hit the brakes hard is no good. If you win the guy might find your home and set it on fire in the middle of the night.
Great story man you are the best at telling them no matter what the topic is
Thank you Jeff for sharing your story I have gotten into road rage and I acted stupid and almost got into an accident and I totally regret doing that after watching your video. I'm glad you didn't do anything stupid and ruined your and your wife's life.
Jeff your channel is awesome, I wasn't even half interested in knives, tools, survival, etc, anything before finding your channel. I just enjoy your discussions and hearing your input on things, keep doing what you do, you won't lose this subscriber.
Dude being a Police Crossing Guard I know NEVER underestimate a car. Whether I'm walking, driving or on duty I NEVER give them a chance.
Sounds like you handled the situation correctly. I've learned the road rage lesson the hard way , and I'm glad you don't have to. I had a pistol pointed in my face because I gave someone the finger. Be safe!
You did the right thing by defusing the situation. I personally, would have lock the door roll up my window, ignored him altogether, back up and find a way around him. I do carry a gun too but as long as I'm inside my car locked up, and I have an escape route there's no excuse for me to even flash it. I wouldn't even bother to give him the time of day.
Jeff, I love you man and, as a fellow CCW permit holder, I’m concerned about your mindset.
Those who carry must go out of their way to avoid conflict and confrontations. We must be more mellow and discreet with an easy-going attitude. We take the high road. We would never flip-off somebody no matter what they did.
For example, in slow traffic, before pulling out in front of another vehicle, roll down your window, get eye contact with the other driver, wave in a friendly manner with a smile, use your body language to ask permission to pull out, and give a friendly wave afterwards.
If you accidentally do something that sets someone off, quickly apologize, say that you made a mistake and you did a stupid thing. Do and say whatever it takes to deescalate the situation. Do your best to seem submissive (but only in your outward appearance, not internally, in case things escalate). Run/drive away if you must and can. There’s no shame in running away in order to prevent a potentially dangerous situation from getting out of hand. Just keep an eye on the other person in case they start to come after you and you are forced to turn and engage.
Prevention and deescalation must be high priorities in the mindset of a CCW permit holder.
Actually I used to work for nation nationwide and other insurance companies. Women are known to have more road rage than men, personally I've never see a guy with it except once. But I've seen plenty of women with it.
You shouldn't give fingers anymore. Like you said, you never know who you're messing with.
I love how so many people here have such a negative reaction to a story that was told by one of the more fair, moral, and honest youtubers here. Jeff shared a story to everyone, not sparing any of the details. Thank you Jeff, for your continued honesty and morality. Always a pleasure to watch your videos :)
simple answer...put cal in reverse and drive around him...you sitting in your car is a bad move...he could of walked to your car and blown you away.....jeff wanting to get in a fight is foolish to....your duty is to retreat unless attacked...unless you have 20k for an attorney to defend you, because you will be sued possibly charged
+amrjr007 could have* But he's not gonna just ignore the problem. Who knows how long the guy would have followed him to talk to him?
if you feel threatened call 911, Jeff is in PA not the middle of the desert...again best to leave the situation....
1. Never, ever give up control of your weapons
2. Avoid physical confrontations at all costs
3. A "thank you" wave, even though you intended is sarcastically, would have diffused the situation
4. By flipping him the "bird" you became the aggressor. You offered up "fighting words."
Please flip 3 and 4
I am too young to die and way to old too take an ass woopin' so I will do what ever it takes to to make it home to my family.
Stay safe my friend.
Bro logic:
Guy flips you off in front of your family, you drive 45mph in a parking lot, curse a lot in front of them, and start a fight like a good role model. Great job Dad, your kids will be in jail in no time.
+Marlon Mendez
Wonder how many slaps his wife tanks per week.
Marlon Mendez
Ho logic:
Cut someone off, use vulgar gestures, then brandish multiple weapons when person.... not hitting me or my vehicle.... asks why I would do such a thing endangering his wife and children.
I'd like to see how you'd act in that situation mrs. Mendez.
Only person I could sit and listen to for almost half an hour lol
Frog Morton offers his protection...I love your videos man, keep'em coming!!
quite recently i was stuck in a doctors office for long enough for the room to feel like it's shrinking. i was sick, and pissed, so i sped down "main street" where the speed limit is 30 or less, pedestrians, traffic, blah blah blah... i was doing 45mph or more, swerving traffic, the moment my rage ended was when this lady was right in front of me. i left a 10 foot strip of rubber and stopped to let her go... i calmed down a little bit, but i just wanted to go to the pharmacy and go home... when i stopped at the next light, i saw a state cop in the next lane. he pulled me over and gave me a warning... supposedly about $500 worth of tickets but he gave me a break. don't rage. its not worth it.
He wasn't setting a good example for his children
Girls do it too. About 7 years ago, I had a guy who tried to run me off the road. I went around him, and slammed on my breaks to fuck with him. He ended up following me to the store I was going to and confronted me in the parking lot. Luckily all that happened was we yelled at each other, but thank God he didn't have a gun! Your story was very scary. I am glad you are okay.
Thanks for sharing. I read responses from so many perfect people here who never open up and share their life story.
I experienced road rage on night while WALKING MY DOG. A guy in a jacked-up, custom-painted, after-market mufflered 4x4 pickup came at us at well over the speed limit and wouldn't move over for us. I flipped him off, called him a jackoff, and went on my way. He slammed on his brakes, did a Y-turn, and came back. He got out of the truck and came at me, raising hell. He got halfway across the road when he noticed that my 80-pound dog (who's a total sweetheart) was interested. He got back in the truck, turned back around, and headed home at close to the speed limit.
Moral of the story: road rage is for idiots and cowards.
I once experienced a road-rage situation very similar to yours. The guy chased me in the parking lot of a restaurant, parked in front of me, stepped out of his car and was fuming. I soon found out he was an old man that didn't seem like a threat, though I did watch his hands just in case. In the end, I didn't want to be responsible for causing him a heart attack, so I just apologize to him, even though I'd done nothing wrong. He was just a very anxious old man. The reason he got mad, was he was 20 km/h in a 50 km/h zone. At 20 km/h, you're just barely moving and he didn't like that I was tail gating him, which I wasn't, as I kept a two-car distance between my car and his. Personally, as long as someone doesn't lay a hand on me, I'm ok with verbal insults.
+chipdouglas35 Too many old people who shouldn't even been on the road.
don't flip people off, you never know who you're dealing with
Good talk, good logic, nice retrospective.....thanks....hope the younger guys listen to this....we've all been there....
+Julius Gonzo yeah, some people got the message and I hope it helped some to keep calm in bad situations and try to get out of it safely without violence, sadly some people missed the message and decided toi just take sides with the guy who acted poorly, lol I admit to being wrong in flipping the bird, but some people watched the video and only thought wow Jeffs a dick, lol sucks they dont see the big picture
Confucius say: do not give other man finger while carrying weapon.
Sounds like an angry guy looking for a fight. Well handled J
Don't carry if your going to "throw down" and flip people off. Makes the rest of the community look bad. Glad you learned to man up and let it go.
you are a very respectful and honorable man. God Bless You.
THANK YOU!!!!!!! Carrying a weapon is never intended for absolutely every situation. It's o oh when your life is in serious danger. If someone wants to fight me legit I'll fight him.
People piss me off all the time but my dad has to be the biggest Saint ever. I remember growing up and even now when a person flips him off or does something stupid he only has one thing to say and do. "Bless You" and smiles sincerely with a wave. Yes he is and was a big hippy back in the day but wow, just wow. I try to think of him every time I want to get pissed.
I was hit by a drunk driver a few years back while driving home from work at night. I got out of the car and beat his ass so much I put him in the hospital. Almost feel bad about it.
life lesson: "don't give the finger"
Great story time. Covered a topic I think a lot about. Thanks Jeff.
I have road rage too. Its in my blood. :) Dad was driving 5mph over the speed limit in the city. A guy got pissed he sped in front of him and slammed the break on. This happened until he got a few streets away from house. He pulled over. Kid got out had nothing. Dad left gun in car. They cussed each other. Kid said he would hit him but he had glasses. My dad said "You just fucked up now." And gently placed his glasses on the roof and put up his fists and said. "Please hit me because I can't hit you first!" The kid backed up and said something like he was lucky he had somewhere to be.
You did the right thing. I think he wanted to seem all macho. I will bet you he told his wife. You said sorry to her and the kids and it won't happen again. Then again if he didn't see the neck knife or the one on your mirror. He might have escalated it more. There are whack jobs out there. Good thing you didn't tape it. That make people like him see red like a damn bull
Words of wisdom.... Glad you kept your cool.... Thanks for sharing the story.
I remember seeing just an awkward road rage incident, a man and woman started yelling at each other in heavy traffic (one cut the other off) and they were flipping each other the bird and cussing each other out while stuck in traffic and then they ended up pulling up to the same gas station...and awkwardly half heartedly kept arguing