Thanks for all this information. I can just about sew a button on, but managed to rescue from the scrap-heap my mother's Singer machine which looks very like this model of yours. I can remember it churning away for hours and hours as she repaired and made clothes for us in the forties. She acquired it second-hand in the thirties, I guess. I think an old aunt or someone gave it her on her marriage. A propos pitman arms, many engineering and medical items are named after their inventors. So it seems probable that it is named after Mr Pitman. In England, incidentally, the man in the pit was, I believe, called the 'underdog'. I hope to get my mum's old machine up and running again. I love all your accurate research and precise explanations.
You're welcome! Glad you liked it and found it informative. I'm originally from the Midlands and have never heard the term underdog in reference to saw pit workers. But then, the UK is a very regional place with many areas having different terms for the same thing. Buns, cobs and baps spring to mind. I think someone once said that even the accents change every 5 - 10 miles or so. Thanks for watching! 🙂
As a weaver, I noticed when I first saw a Singer 27 that the bobbin shuttle was just like my very own weaving shuttles. It made me happy and I accepted the 1894 Singer 27 that my in-laws were palming off on me because no one wanted it. I am now learning about the machine and cleaning it up so I can use it. Added bonus, hidden away in the back of a drawer was a complete puzzle box. I have not told them yet that they have given me a treasure. Great video, I learned that the bobbin winder has an engaged and not engaged position. I paused the video right then and went and played with the bobbin winder. I don't have a belt on it yet but had been wondering how it would work.
What a great treasure! A Singer 27 and a puzzle box - that's so cool! I hope you get a belt on it soon. You'll love how it sews. Thanks so much for watching 🙂
I loved this entertaining and informative rabbit hole. I’ve reluctantly lugged my wife’s grandmother’s treadle sewing machine through at least 12 moves across the country and rearranged its position in our homes. Never even opening it up. Recently I’ve become interested in sewing and sewing machines and with great joy restored this beauty and the cabinet and cast iron base to it’s original beauty. I’m waiting on the arrival of the treadle belt and can’t wait to be able to sew with it. We call it “Rosalie” in honour of my wife’s grandma. It is a late 1940’s Singer model 15 Japanese clone, complete with a cloned Singer serial number from 1910. Fortunately it has the ability to perform a reverse function. Thanks for this I really enjoyed it. Now I’m off to take a little romp on google and the pitman arm. Don Janzen
Hi Don, I'm glad you liked it! Knowing how cumbersome treadle machines can be, I feel your pain with the 12 moves! But, a treadle with reverse - definitely worth the effort! I hope Rosalie is up and running soon. You're going to love how she stitches! Enjoy the pitman arm rabbit hole - it's deep - you may be in there for some time. Let me know what you find. Thanks for commenting and watching! 😀
You are SO great. I just inherited a vintage Singer treadle machine, but I haven’t found way to identify it. It came with an original box of accessories and cleaning utensils. I also have an original hand broom to clean off dust. It’s so beautiful and has the most intricate carvings all over the cabinet. It’s just so gorgeous. I don’t know where to go to get some definite information; I’ve searched for days!
:D She needs a little TLC in places. But then, I think I would if I was 108 lol. She's definitely been put through her paces over the years. And still going strong! Thanks for watching and commenting. Glad you liked it.
This is very helpful, thank you for putting together and sharing. I just bought an 1890 Singer with a treadle and I want to learn how to use her properly; this most definitely helps me do that!
I just bought a 1910 singer treadle machine from a thrift store. I've never used one but I hope I can get it working and figure it out! It does need some cleaning and definitely a good oiling. Your demonstration of the bobbin winder was a big help. Now to learn how to thread it... thanks for this!
You can do it! I show how to thread a Singer 27 treadle in this video: ruclips.net/video/WR4ihVg36ow/видео.html It's pretty much identical to the 127. Hope it helps. Thanks for watching! 😀
Thanks so much for a very helpful video! I recently bought an 1895 treadle machine and couldn’t figure out how to adjust the stitch size, but now I know! I don’t think you said what’s under that flap above the tension discs. There’s a really big screw under mine but I’m not sure whether to undo it or leave well enough alone. These machines are amazing, aren’t they? Thanks again.
You're welcome! Do you mean the trapezoid shaped silver flap? It's an access hatch for oiling. There's also a flap on the tension discs. If you push that one it will open up the tension discs so you can get the thread in and out. Thanks for watching 😀
Long bobbin shuttles have to be pointed to pass the shuttle through the loop made by the needle when it does the little jumping motion at the bottom of its travel. Loom shuttles look the same only larger. They were designed for their function, not because someone wanted them to look look bullets. That is just a nickname, Singer calls it a vibrating shuttle. Never referred to as a "bullet" in company literature.
Just purchased a singer sewing machine (serial # G3666764) . I think it's about 1914 for 50 US dollars. Just wanted to restore it for a night stand, but after seeing this video, might restore the actual machine too. Thanks.
You're welcome! You've got a Singer 66 according to the serial number. They are workhorses! I hope you can get it working again. You'll love the way it sews! Thanks for watching! 🙂
I was in need of this video before shopping for my used treadle cabinet. Now I need to pray that all the important parts are there. I know the cradle is missing. Need to build one inexpensive and the lowering bar is missing. I am converting a Singer electric 66 Red eye into this cabinet. Hopefully I know what I am doing.
@@SimplyStitchy The metal bar that lift and lower the machine is missing too. Now searching were to find those parts or how to modify everything. What is the purpose of the cradle or belly of the machine 🤔 to protect the machine while is down? I am trying to put an electric Singer 66 Red Eye on the treadle machine and remove the motor. Hopping that I am not over my head here whit this project.
You are as passionate about treadles as I am. I have the old boring box type Singer cabinet with a gorgyfabulous Singer 66 lotus flower on top. I have operated and sewn with treadles before and I love it. Watching your video brought my attention to the Balancing of a treadle which I have not actually thought about.....I thought they came balanced. I just hook the belt up and go. Thinking about this........Do we set the belt on the wheel with the treadle in a certain position and the take up lever either high or low? I am wracking my brains thinking about this as it may have a marked effect in ease of use? How do I know if the big wheel is balanced? Thus never occurred to be as there is no adjustment facility. Kind regards Peter
Hi Peter, there isn't a balance as such, but you're right in that there is a safe way to attach the belt. You need to keep the needle at its highest position and the pitman arm at its lowest. That way, when gravity pulls the pitman arm beyond its highest point, (top dead center) it pulls the needle up and not down. Grandma, my Singer 27 has the needle set at the lowest position. When you take your feet off the treadle pedal, resistance is removed allowing the pitman arm to drop beyond top dead center. Gravity takes over and pulls the pitman arm and the needle downwards. I like to call this Grandma's dropsies. As long as you keep your fingers out of the way, the needle dropping like that isn't detrimental to the machine. It's just safer for us if the needle is pulled up out of the way. I really need to fix that, but I'm waiting until her belt needs changing. Thanks for watching 🙂
Thank you so very much for this intelligent, informative and very entertaining video. I’ve recently acquired a Singer F series (from the product number) treadle machine that was made between 1910 and 1920. It has a round bobbin. I’m intrigued with the mechanics of it. It’s in excellent condition, and will stitch backwards from the wheel, and forward from the treadle. What’s missing is the transfer of power from the treadle to the needle. Any thoughts on what needs adjustment?
Thanks Sarah, I'm glad you enjoyed it! When you look at your handwheel, is there a smaller wheel inside it? It should look like a silver/chrome colored disc. Try turning that. It disengages the needle when you wind the bobbin so the needle doesn't go up and down. It could be it's been left in bobbin-winding mode. Thanks for watching! 😀
This was my exact problem, and I spent too much time trying to trace the “problem”. You explained it in just a minute, and I did a forehead smack. Thank you!!!
Hi Judy, Having never had to do that, it's not something I'm familiar with. I'm not even 100% sure it's something you can replace. I always thought the pitman arm and connecting points at each end were all one unit. So, if the connections go, you replace the whole arm. Of course, that depends on the machine you have. I can only recommend you check out AndyTube here on RUclips. He does maintenance videos. If you can replace the bushes, he'll have done a video on it. I'm so sorry I can't help further. Let me know how you get on. Thanks for watching.🙂
Thank you, very informative, I just purchased a singer bullet Bobbin machine, and sadly the Bobbin is damaged, can these be purchased anywhere, or am I out of luck
You're welcome. Do you mean the shuttle case or the actual long bobbin? You can get the bobbins from Amazon. Try this link: amzn.to/3I5KzQB. The shuttle cases are a different story. Amazon also has shuttle cases and bobbin sets, but, the problem with vibrating shuttle machines - not all shuttle cases fit all the machines. Do you know what model you have? You could also try this link: www.sewingpartsonline.com/shuttle-comb-singer-8327.aspx. Or try here: www.vintagesingerparts.com/collections/bobbin-cases-and-latches/products/singer-sewing-machine-27-127-128-bobbin-case-shuttle-complete. Compare the picture against the one you have to make sure it's the right one. I hope you find one. Thanks for watching! 🙂
I just bought model 27 date 1903. Missing the front bobbing cover and the lift support bar. No treadle cabinet and very rusty. How to choose the right date for a treadle cabinet?
Hi! I’m going to look at a treadle tomorrow, it might be unlikely that you’ll see this comment before then but it’s worth a shot🤷🏼♀️ the best is broken, so how can I make sure the machine will work when I replace it? Do I just need to make sure the pedal and wheels move smoothly? Do I need to open it up to check for any rust? And if I find some rust, is that possible to restore?
If the belt is broken, turn the handwheel to make sure everything moves freely. Next, work the pedal, it should turn the bandwheel freely even if the belt is broken. If any part of the machine is locked up tight and not moving, you'll need to soak the moving parts in oil. Make sure the bobbin and bobbin case are there. These old machines are pretty much bullet-proof so as long as all the parts are there, you should be able to get her working again. Rust is one of those things - depends on how bad it is. Surface rust on the treadle parts should just clean off with some white vinegar - Don't use on the decals - or on the machine head - it's acid. If the rust is deeper, or the table is falling apart.... it'll be a lot harder and take longer to fix.
Whatever you do don’t clean it with anything but sewing machine oil. I’m experienced with repairing machines but never had a very grubby 130 y.o. White Vibrating shuttle treadle machine. I damaged mine wiping the machine down with denatured alcohol. Also on a side note I’ve just replaced the belt and it sees backwards! Driving me up the wall. Trying to figure that out now.
Do you have any videos on getting the bobbin shuttle threaded? I followed the manual, but it doesn’t pick up the bobbin thread every time. Also, I can’t seem to make it sew. It just makes a big lump
Yes, I put the link in the reply to your last comment. I also have a short on how to load the bobbin into the shuttle: ruclips.net/user/shortsYx76ntM8cy0?feature=share . If it isn't picking the bobbin thread up, it could be your needle. The Singer 27, 128, 127, 28 machines thread from left to right so your needle needs to be inserted with the flat side facing right, or towards the pillar. When you sew the hand wheel need to turn towards you. If you are using a hand crank, that means turning the handle away from you. For the bobbin, once you've pulled the thread into the groove down the side, you just slide it under metal bit so it sits in the space. Nothing holds it there, there's no other slot. Just make sure its under than tension clip as you put it in the machine. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching. Let me know when you get it going. :)
My mother, who ran an alterations business out of the front room of our home, owned this same type treadle machine. Still does actually but she no longer has the business due to age and health issues. My father, ran an automotive repair shop for over 60 years and specialized in wheel alignment. So I grew up under the dirty side of every customer's vehicle he worked on. I learned early on what a "pittman arm" is. Even replaced one or two myself. I found your bit of history quite refreshing. The pedals of a bicycle are essentially two opposing Pittman arms working in tandem.
I'm going with the one from the 1500's. Because there are too many machines that existed befor 1814, that would've utilized a pitman arm device. Thinking of water powered equipment for starters.
I have a Pfaff K treadle machine. Looking below at the iron work are two iron dishes or maybe more like bowls. Can anyone tell me what they are and what purpose they are for?
Hi Jessie, Unfortunately, without seeing the bowls, I'm really not sure. I'm not up on Pfaff machines. I don't own any. Their purpose depends on how big they are and where they are situated. Have you tried the ISMACS website? They have a section on Pfaff. ismacs.net/ or check out facebook to see if there is a group on Pfaff machines. Sorry I can't help more. Thanks for watching 🙂
What is this model number. I have this one (just got it from my mother in law) and I am trying to figure out how to make it work. Mine came with a manual for 127/128, but my bobbin winder is like yours (below the thread tensioner not above it). The manual I have shows the bobbin winder above the tensioner, so I’m not sure it really is the 127/128 despite the manual.
Grandma is a Singer 27. The 127, 128, 27 & 28 are all pretty much the same machine so the manual you have should give you pointers in the right direction. The 128 is a 3/4 size machine so is smaller than the 27 but that's the only main difference. They work the same way. If you check out my video on how to sew with a treadle: ruclips.net/video/l470QMz51qA/видео.html , I go through threading the machine from the 9:22 time slot. Let me know how you get on. Thanks for watching :D
Hi I just broke the Pit man arm, I welded it on again but when treadling I saw the arm bending, and I believe that’s the reason it sheared right off at the bottom. Is the arm supposed to bend a little or not? Greetings from the Netherlands
As far as I know, the pitman arm isn't supposed to bend on a treadle. It doesn't on mine but it's always possible other treadles may work differently. Are the connection points on the treadle pedal and the bandwheel oiled and moving smoothly? Is the pitman arm bending at the weld? If it is, I think you might need a new pitman arm. It could be metal fatigue or just age. It sounds as though the fix is working for now so go with it. Just take it a bit easy until you get a new rod. Thanks for watching! 🙂
@@SimplyStitchy thank you so much for answering. I believe after a closer inspection everything is seized beyond repair. I nee to drill out the old rod which is threaded btw on both ends- I suppose to adjust it to the pedal at lenght. Well thank you for answering anyway, I had a hunch that it was not all together viable.
@@adelheidsnel5171 All may not be lost! You'll need a ton of release oil to unstick those parts. But with time, patience and more than a little bit of elbow grease, even the most stubborn of seized metal parts can be brought back to life. I might even suggest trying WD40 - but only on the metal joints though - keep it away from the rest of the machine. The key is - don't force the parts to move - go on their timeframe. Hope you can get it back up and running! Let me know!
Hi, what is the name of the metal plate at the end of the machine that has the holes for the belt to go through? I need this piece and am not sure what this is called.
I’ve put on a new belt and it sews backwards! I’m so frustrated. Ordered the belt off Amazon. The machine is a 1890 White Vibrating shuttle treadle machine. I’ve been sewing and working on machines since I was a child but this has confuddled! I’ve spent hours cleaning and tidying up this machine and my reward would be to see it sew, and it’s doesn’t. If you have an idea what’s up please help me out.
Have you used a treadle machine before? Normally treadles sew backwards if the pitman arm (the rod attaching the treadle pedal to the bandwheel) falls backwards instead of forwards. Put your foot on the treadle pedal and then spin your handwheel towards you. Keep spinning the handwheel until you feel movement in the treadle pedal. Then, start pushing the pedal with your foot. Keep the momentum going and you should go forwards. Hope that helps.
@@SimplyStitchy No never used one. That’s crazy the treadle normally sews backwards. I have noticed where the pitman arm attaches to the flywheel for some reason if you don’t pedal a certain way it will reverse at a certain point. I don’t know if that makes sense. It’s like a rough spot in the wheel rotation then it wants to go back the other way. Thanks for your suggestion that does help a lot.
@@LilyoftheValeyrising It's down to gravity and which side of the top-dead-center the pitman arm is at. If it's even just a little bit, leaning towards the back, it'll fall off backwards. That's why turning the handwheel towards you first, helps the pitman arm fall off to the front. Momentum then takes over and it'll carry on going forwards - as long as you keep pedaling. If you want to stop, stop the handwheel first, then stop pedalling. Enjoy your new treadle - takes some getting used to but they are worth it!
@@SimplyStitchy I’ve noticed that the pitman arm is like the master of direction. I try to hold the pedal steady so it won’t reverse so easily and snap my thread. I need reading glasses as I’m almost 50 and it takes me a while to thread the machine. I use the threader things. I’m practicing and getting the knack of sewing on this machine. It’s fun! It’s just so cool to be able to sew without electricity. I’m going to keep at it. Thanks!
I have a Singer 9w formerly made by Wheeler and Wilson in the early 1900s. It has a rotary hook and operates in the opposite direction to other Singers. It could be the White treadle needs to have the handwheel spun toward the back also in order to operate. White made rotary machines also, but i dont know any more about them.
Hi all, if you liked this video, why not check out my video on sewing a seat pad using the treadle: ruclips.net/video/Da9j3u7_sB8/видео.html
Thanks for all this information. I can just about sew a button on, but managed to rescue from the scrap-heap my mother's Singer machine which looks very like this model of yours. I can remember it churning away for hours and hours as she repaired and made clothes for us in the forties. She acquired it second-hand in the thirties, I guess. I think an old aunt or someone gave it her on her marriage. A propos pitman arms, many engineering and medical items are named after their inventors. So it seems probable that it is named after Mr Pitman. In England, incidentally, the man in the pit was, I believe, called the 'underdog'. I hope to get my mum's old machine up and running again. I love all your accurate research and precise explanations.
You're welcome! Glad you liked it and found it informative. I'm originally from the Midlands and have never heard the term underdog in reference to saw pit workers. But then, the UK is a very regional place with many areas having different terms for the same thing. Buns, cobs and baps spring to mind. I think someone once said that even the accents change every 5 - 10 miles or so. Thanks for watching! 🙂
As a weaver, I noticed when I first saw a Singer 27 that the bobbin shuttle was just like my very own weaving shuttles. It made me happy and I accepted the 1894 Singer 27 that my in-laws were palming off on me because no one wanted it. I am now learning about the machine and cleaning it up so I can use it. Added bonus, hidden away in the back of a drawer was a complete puzzle box. I have not told them yet that they have given me a treasure. Great video, I learned that the bobbin winder has an engaged and not engaged position. I paused the video right then and went and played with the bobbin winder. I don't have a belt on it yet but had been wondering how it would work.
What a great treasure! A Singer 27 and a puzzle box - that's so cool! I hope you get a belt on it soon. You'll love how it sews. Thanks so much for watching 🙂
I loved this entertaining and informative rabbit hole.
I’ve reluctantly lugged my wife’s grandmother’s treadle sewing machine through at least 12 moves across the country and rearranged its position in our homes. Never even opening it up. Recently I’ve become interested in sewing and sewing machines and with great joy restored this beauty and the cabinet and cast iron base to it’s original beauty. I’m waiting on the arrival of the treadle belt and can’t wait to be able to sew with it. We call it “Rosalie” in honour of my wife’s grandma. It is a late 1940’s Singer model 15 Japanese clone, complete with a cloned Singer serial number from 1910. Fortunately it has the ability to perform a reverse function. Thanks for this I really enjoyed it. Now I’m off to take a little romp on google and the pitman arm. Don Janzen
Hi Don, I'm glad you liked it! Knowing how cumbersome treadle machines can be, I feel your pain with the 12 moves! But, a treadle with reverse - definitely worth the effort! I hope Rosalie is up and running soon. You're going to love how she stitches! Enjoy the pitman arm rabbit hole - it's deep - you may be in there for some time. Let me know what you find. Thanks for commenting and watching! 😀
Your videos are very helpful,my son just got me the 1902 model 27, and I had no idea what I was doing.
Glad I could help! You'll love sewing with the 27. They are rock-steady and reliable. Thanks for watching! 🙂
You are SO great. I just inherited a vintage Singer treadle machine, but I haven’t found way to identify it. It came with an original box of accessories and cleaning utensils. I also have an original hand broom to clean off dust. It’s so beautiful and has the most intricate carvings all over the cabinet. It’s just so gorgeous. I don’t know where to go to get some definite information; I’ve searched for days!
Thanks! Take a look at this video: ruclips.net/video/DwpBm7UOz6I/видео.html - it might help you identify the machine. Thanks for watching! 🙂
I learned a lot from your video! Such a beautiful machine!
:D She needs a little TLC in places. But then, I think I would if I was 108 lol. She's definitely been put through her paces over the years. And still going strong! Thanks for watching and commenting. Glad you liked it.
Thanks for the video, and the etymology!
My pleasure 😀 Thanks for watching!
This is very helpful, thank you for putting together and sharing. I just bought an 1890 Singer with a treadle and I want to learn how to use her properly; this most definitely helps me do that!
You're welcome! You'll love sewing with your treadle. It's so much more relaxing. Thanks for watching :D
@@SimplyStitchy I cannot wait to sew with it!
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wow...fascinating presentation...information !! thank you
You're welcome. Thanks for watching! 🙂
I just bought a 1910 singer treadle machine from a thrift store. I've never used one but I hope I can get it working and figure it out! It does need some cleaning and definitely a good oiling. Your demonstration of the bobbin winder was a big help. Now to learn how to thread it... thanks for this!
You can do it! I show how to thread a Singer 27 treadle in this video: ruclips.net/video/WR4ihVg36ow/видео.html It's pretty much identical to the 127. Hope it helps. Thanks for watching! 😀
Thanks so much for a very helpful video! I recently bought an 1895 treadle machine and couldn’t figure out how to adjust the stitch size, but now I know! I don’t think you said what’s under that flap above the tension discs. There’s a really big screw under mine but I’m not sure whether to undo it or leave well enough alone. These machines are amazing, aren’t they? Thanks again.
You're welcome! Do you mean the trapezoid shaped silver flap? It's an access hatch for oiling. There's also a flap on the tension discs. If you push that one it will open up the tension discs so you can get the thread in and out. Thanks for watching 😀
Long bobbin shuttles have to be pointed to pass the shuttle through the loop made by the needle when it does the little jumping motion at the bottom of its travel. Loom shuttles look the same only larger. They were designed for their function, not because someone wanted them to look look bullets. That is just a nickname, Singer calls it a vibrating shuttle. Never referred to as a "bullet" in company literature.
Just purchased a singer sewing machine (serial # G3666764) . I think it's about 1914 for 50 US dollars. Just wanted to restore it for a night stand, but after seeing this video, might restore the actual machine too. Thanks.
You're welcome! You've got a Singer 66 according to the serial number. They are workhorses! I hope you can get it working again. You'll love the way it sews! Thanks for watching! 🙂
I was in need of this video before shopping for my used treadle cabinet. Now I need to pray that all the important parts are there. I know the cradle is missing. Need to build one inexpensive and the lowering bar is missing. I am converting a Singer electric 66 Red eye into this cabinet. Hopefully I know what I am doing.
It's going to be amazing when you've finished it! Thanks for sharing and for watching! 🙂
@@SimplyStitchy The metal bar that lift and lower the machine is missing too. Now searching were to find those parts or how to modify everything. What is the purpose of the cradle or belly of the machine 🤔 to protect the machine while is down? I am trying to put an electric Singer 66 Red Eye on the treadle machine and remove the motor. Hopping that I am not over my head here whit this project.
You are as passionate about treadles as I am.
I have the old boring box type Singer cabinet with a gorgyfabulous Singer 66 lotus flower on top.
I have operated and sewn with treadles before and I love it.
Watching your video brought my attention to the Balancing of a treadle which I have not actually thought about.....I thought they came balanced.
I just hook the belt up and go.
Thinking about this........Do we set the belt on the wheel with the treadle in a certain position and the take up lever either high or low?
I am wracking my brains thinking about this as it may have a marked effect in ease of use?
How do I know if the big wheel is balanced?
Thus never occurred to be as there is no adjustment facility.
Kind regards
Peter
Hi Peter, there isn't a balance as such, but you're right in that there is a safe way to attach the belt. You need to keep the needle at its highest position and the pitman arm at its lowest. That way, when gravity pulls the pitman arm beyond its highest point, (top dead center) it pulls the needle up and not down. Grandma, my Singer 27 has the needle set at the lowest position. When you take your feet off the treadle pedal, resistance is removed allowing the pitman arm to drop beyond top dead center. Gravity takes over and pulls the pitman arm and the needle downwards. I like to call this Grandma's dropsies. As long as you keep your fingers out of the way, the needle dropping like that isn't detrimental to the machine. It's just safer for us if the needle is pulled up out of the way. I really need to fix that, but I'm waiting until her belt needs changing. Thanks for watching 🙂
Thank you so very much for this intelligent, informative and very entertaining video. I’ve recently acquired a Singer F series (from the product number) treadle machine that was made between 1910 and 1920. It has a round bobbin. I’m intrigued with the mechanics of it. It’s in excellent condition, and will stitch backwards from the wheel, and forward from the treadle. What’s missing is the transfer of power from the treadle to the needle. Any thoughts on what needs adjustment?
Thanks Sarah, I'm glad you enjoyed it! When you look at your handwheel, is there a smaller wheel inside it? It should look like a silver/chrome colored disc. Try turning that. It disengages the needle when you wind the bobbin so the needle doesn't go up and down. It could be it's been left in bobbin-winding mode. Thanks for watching! 😀
This was my exact problem, and I spent too much time trying to trace the “problem”. You explained it in just a minute, and I did a forehead smack. Thank you!!!
Do you know anything about replacing or repairing the bushing on the treadle at the pitman arm?
Hi Judy, Having never had to do that, it's not something I'm familiar with. I'm not even 100% sure it's something you can replace. I always thought the pitman arm and connecting points at each end were all one unit. So, if the connections go, you replace the whole arm. Of course, that depends on the machine you have. I can only recommend you check out AndyTube here on RUclips. He does maintenance videos. If you can replace the bushes, he'll have done a video on it. I'm so sorry I can't help further. Let me know how you get on. Thanks for watching.🙂
Thank you, very informative, I just purchased a singer bullet Bobbin machine, and sadly the Bobbin is damaged, can these be purchased anywhere, or am I out of luck
You're welcome. Do you mean the shuttle case or the actual long bobbin? You can get the bobbins from Amazon. Try this link: amzn.to/3I5KzQB. The shuttle cases are a different story. Amazon also has shuttle cases and bobbin sets, but, the problem with vibrating shuttle machines - not all shuttle cases fit all the machines. Do you know what model you have? You could also try this link: www.sewingpartsonline.com/shuttle-comb-singer-8327.aspx. Or try here: www.vintagesingerparts.com/collections/bobbin-cases-and-latches/products/singer-sewing-machine-27-127-128-bobbin-case-shuttle-complete. Compare the picture against the one you have to make sure it's the right one. I hope you find one. Thanks for watching! 🙂
I just bought model 27 date 1903. Missing the front bobbing cover and the lift support bar. No treadle cabinet and very rusty. How to choose the right date for a treadle cabinet?
Hi! I’m going to look at a treadle tomorrow, it might be unlikely that you’ll see this comment before then but it’s worth a shot🤷🏼♀️ the best is broken, so how can I make sure the machine will work when I replace it? Do I just need to make sure the pedal and wheels move smoothly? Do I need to open it up to check for any rust? And if I find some rust, is that possible to restore?
If the belt is broken, turn the handwheel to make sure everything moves freely. Next, work the pedal, it should turn the bandwheel freely even if the belt is broken. If any part of the machine is locked up tight and not moving, you'll need to soak the moving parts in oil. Make sure the bobbin and bobbin case are there. These old machines are pretty much bullet-proof so as long as all the parts are there, you should be able to get her working again. Rust is one of those things - depends on how bad it is. Surface rust on the treadle parts should just clean off with some white vinegar - Don't use on the decals - or on the machine head - it's acid. If the rust is deeper, or the table is falling apart.... it'll be a lot harder and take longer to fix.
Whatever you do don’t clean it with anything but sewing machine oil. I’m experienced with repairing machines but never had a very grubby 130 y.o. White Vibrating shuttle treadle machine. I damaged mine wiping the machine down with denatured alcohol.
Also on a side note I’ve just replaced the belt and it sees backwards! Driving me up the wall. Trying to figure that out now.
There’s a channel called Andy Tube he tested different methods of cleanly the machine- that why I’m stuck on the oil method.
Do you have any videos on getting the bobbin shuttle threaded? I followed the manual, but it doesn’t pick up the bobbin thread every time. Also, I can’t seem to make it sew. It just makes a big lump
Yes, I put the link in the reply to your last comment. I also have a short on how to load the bobbin into the shuttle: ruclips.net/user/shortsYx76ntM8cy0?feature=share . If it isn't picking the bobbin thread up, it could be your needle. The Singer 27, 128, 127, 28 machines thread from left to right so your needle needs to be inserted with the flat side facing right, or towards the pillar. When you sew the hand wheel need to turn towards you. If you are using a hand crank, that means turning the handle away from you. For the bobbin, once you've pulled the thread into the groove down the side, you just slide it under metal bit so it sits in the space. Nothing holds it there, there's no other slot. Just make sure its under than tension clip as you put it in the machine. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching. Let me know when you get it going. :)
My mother, who ran an alterations business out of the front room of our home, owned this same type treadle machine. Still does actually but she no longer has the business due to age and health issues.
My father, ran an automotive repair shop for over 60 years and specialized in wheel alignment. So I grew up under the dirty side of every customer's vehicle he worked on. I learned early on what a "pittman arm" is. Even replaced one or two myself. I found your bit of history quite refreshing.
The pedals of a bicycle are essentially two opposing Pittman arms working in tandem.
It sure is a useful piece of machinery! Thanks for watching! 😀
I just bought a machine that looked like this one.
Cool! They're awesome machines :D You're going to love sewing with a vintage machine... there's just something about them. :D Thanks for watching!
I'm going with the one from the 1500's. Because there are too many machines that existed befor 1814, that would've utilized a pitman arm device. Thinking of water powered equipment for starters.
Absolutely! The pitman arm is definitely a gadget that has been part of machine technology for eons. Thanks for watching! 🙂
I have a Pfaff K treadle machine. Looking below at the iron work are two iron dishes or maybe more like bowls. Can anyone tell me what they are and what purpose they are for?
Hi Jessie, Unfortunately, without seeing the bowls, I'm really not sure. I'm not up on Pfaff machines. I don't own any. Their purpose depends on how big they are and where they are situated. Have you tried the ISMACS website? They have a section on Pfaff. ismacs.net/ or check out facebook to see if there is a group on Pfaff machines. Sorry I can't help more. Thanks for watching 🙂
What is this model number. I have this one (just got it from my mother in law) and I am trying to figure out how to make it work. Mine came with a manual for 127/128, but my bobbin winder is like yours (below the thread tensioner not above it). The manual I have shows the bobbin winder above the tensioner, so I’m not sure it really is the 127/128 despite the manual.
Grandma is a Singer 27. The 127, 128, 27 & 28 are all pretty much the same machine so the manual you have should give you pointers in the right direction. The 128 is a 3/4 size machine so is smaller than the 27 but that's the only main difference. They work the same way. If you check out my video on how to sew with a treadle: ruclips.net/video/l470QMz51qA/видео.html , I go through threading the machine from the 9:22 time slot. Let me know how you get on. Thanks for watching :D
Hi I just broke the Pit man arm, I welded it on again but when treadling I saw the arm bending, and I believe that’s the reason it sheared right off at the bottom. Is the arm supposed to bend a little or not? Greetings from the Netherlands
As far as I know, the pitman arm isn't supposed to bend on a treadle. It doesn't on mine but it's always possible other treadles may work differently. Are the connection points on the treadle pedal and the bandwheel oiled and moving smoothly? Is the pitman arm bending at the weld? If it is, I think you might need a new pitman arm. It could be metal fatigue or just age. It sounds as though the fix is working for now so go with it. Just take it a bit easy until you get a new rod. Thanks for watching! 🙂
@@SimplyStitchy thank you so much for answering. I believe after a closer inspection everything is seized beyond repair. I nee to drill out the old rod which is threaded btw on both ends- I suppose to adjust it to the pedal at lenght. Well thank you for answering anyway, I had a hunch that it was not all together viable.
@@adelheidsnel5171 All may not be lost! You'll need a ton of release oil to unstick those parts. But with time, patience and more than a little bit of elbow grease, even the most stubborn of seized metal parts can be brought back to life. I might even suggest trying WD40 - but only on the metal joints though - keep it away from the rest of the machine. The key is - don't force the parts to move - go on their timeframe. Hope you can get it back up and running! Let me know!
Hi, what is the name of the metal plate at the end of the machine that has the holes for the belt to go through? I need this piece and am not sure what this is called.
Treadle belt cover guide plate
@@SimplyStitchy Thank you!!
But, whatever happened to George Pitman and the invention of the locomotive gear?
I've no idea, but if I ever find out, I'll let you know. Thanks for watching 😀
I’ve put on a new belt and it sews backwards! I’m so frustrated. Ordered the belt off Amazon. The machine is a 1890 White Vibrating shuttle treadle machine. I’ve been sewing and working on machines since I was a child but this has confuddled! I’ve spent hours cleaning and tidying up this machine and my reward would be to see it sew, and it’s doesn’t. If you have an idea what’s up please help me out.
Have you used a treadle machine before? Normally treadles sew backwards if the pitman arm (the rod attaching the treadle pedal to the bandwheel) falls backwards instead of forwards. Put your foot on the treadle pedal and then spin your handwheel towards you. Keep spinning the handwheel until you feel movement in the treadle pedal. Then, start pushing the pedal with your foot. Keep the momentum going and you should go forwards. Hope that helps.
@@SimplyStitchy No never used one. That’s crazy the treadle normally sews backwards. I have noticed where the pitman arm attaches to the flywheel for some reason if you don’t pedal a certain way it will reverse at a certain point. I don’t know if that makes sense. It’s like a rough spot in the wheel rotation then it wants to go back the other way. Thanks for your suggestion that does help a lot.
@@LilyoftheValeyrising It's down to gravity and which side of the top-dead-center the pitman arm is at. If it's even just a little bit, leaning towards the back, it'll fall off backwards. That's why turning the handwheel towards you first, helps the pitman arm fall off to the front. Momentum then takes over and it'll carry on going forwards - as long as you keep pedaling. If you want to stop, stop the handwheel first, then stop pedalling. Enjoy your new treadle - takes some getting used to but they are worth it!
@@SimplyStitchy I’ve noticed that the pitman arm is like the master of direction. I try to hold the pedal steady so it won’t reverse so easily and snap my thread. I need reading glasses as I’m almost 50 and it takes me a while to thread the machine. I use the threader things. I’m practicing and getting the knack of sewing on this machine. It’s fun! It’s just so cool to be able to sew without electricity. I’m going to keep at it. Thanks!
I have a Singer 9w formerly made by Wheeler and Wilson in the early 1900s. It has a rotary hook and operates in the opposite direction to other Singers. It could be the White treadle needs to have the handwheel spun toward the back also in order to operate. White made rotary machines also, but i dont know any more about them.
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Not sure I know what that is and Grandma's from New Jersey so she's no help either.