You are a legend for this one. Guitarist here wanting to learn lap steel, heard about all the tunings, you made it easy to figure out the vibe and benefits of each of them. Thanks so much!
I started out in c6, but i got frustrated with it. I built a ten string lap steel, and tuned it to E13. After playing that tuning for quite sometime, I'm now getting back into 6 string, and have found c6 now very intuitive.
Really enjoyed this. Had my electromatic around a year now, learning c6 pretty much everything I love works, Hank w, Webb Pierce etc, thanks so much for the video it's very helpful especially as I'm saving for a dobro at present
I was persuaded to tune my National Tricone to C6 by a pedal steel player. What I like is that it is an Am above a C major, with three inversions each. I have left it that way because it is so versatile and playable in any key.
I bought my first lap steel today, looked up how to tune and this was the first video that came up and i found it very helpful. Ready to make some noise. Thank you! Subscribed.
Thank you very much for being so generous with your time. Watched the other with the 3 lap string choices, their inventory is taking a beating, need to find one on local online market to get around shipping and the exchange to Canadian.
thank you! so grateful for the one-stop for everything i need to know to start. all those licks you played is exactly why i want to learn! all the best to you and your followers.
Ethan... Love your video's, and thank you especially for this one! I will be 74 yrs "young" in just a week and a half from now... and decided to "try" and get back onto the Electric Bass just last year (2022), after Not having played since 18 yrs old.... I also want to learn Lap/console Steel, so I've been looking around for a lap steel to practice on. After watching Your video on the best beginner steels to get... I bought an SX - an Epiphone Electar... A Rogue, a Gretsch 5715 and an "el cheapo" ($146.) double neck 6 from Ebay (which I've wired in a neck selection/isolation switch and 2 new Strat pickups, tone pot and changed the capacitor... tuners are next), as well as a 1956 National D8, which I just got for trading the Rogue & the Gretsch 5715 (Black Sparkle), both of which were "pre-owned", but in excellent shape. I did Not like the Gretsch for the fact that I felt the strings were too close together for my big hands & fingers.... anyway, I have the National all apart already and am going to do a complete refurbishing on it from the inside/out.. along with new strings, which I already have (selected for C6, A6, open E, D & G (low bass) after it's all done.... just don't know yet, which Two tunings I should apply to it. As a complete "newbie" to steel, and wanting to focus on & play... Classic Country (late 50's through late 70's/early-mid 80's), Western/Texas Swing & Blue Grass.... what would be Your number one choice of tuning for all or each of these genre's.... as an absolute Beginner, to Learn On? Would you suggest just learning on ONE lap steel, with just One tuning and IF so, Which Tuning would be Best suited and easiest to learn on.... or is it possible (or even recommended?) to learn more than one tuning at once?..... bottom line is... HELLLLP!?! lol. Any and all suggestions Will Be greatly appreciated!!.... considering all I've written here. Thanks for your time, Ethan... and any helpful input you can send my way..... I "may be" confusing my own situation (Ya THINK?!!?) with too many "options" in front of me... too soon. PS: I have stocked up on numerous string sets (23, altogether) in different & duplicate (in case of breakage) tunings for 6 & 8 string steels.... can you help me "sort this out" and get it Simplified.... so I can start learning the steel? Thanks again... Greatly Appreciate your time & suggestions/tips, etc.
I'd stick with just one main steel guitar to start with. whatever your favorite one is. For 6 strings, I'd start with C6. There's a lot of instructional material and it's really versatile. If you ever move into 8 strings, A6 is my favorite, but you can easily translate your C6 knowledge into that. Have fun on your journey, and I'll try to post some more videos to help along the way!
@@texas_swing.... Ethan, Thank you So Much for your reply, I really appreciate it.... and forgive me for my slow response back to you.. I just found it (7.3.2023) after re-watching this video again. I'm taking your advice and going to learn the C6 tuning. I'm replacing the original (Chinese) strings on my Epiphone Electar as I write this (well... stopped while I reply, here), with a new set of SIT's ("Scotty's") gauged for C6 tuning. I've also tuned my SX to C6 as well, but I think the Epiphone will be my "go to" while learning... I prefer the tone quality it produces better than the SX.... it seems to have a "sweeter/mellower" tone to it. The pickup on the SX is pretty "hot"... and I'm considering changing it out for a much better quality setup.... perhaps a good P-90, coupled with a Humbucker and attendant switch & controls.... which I Love doing, anyway. lol I just bought a new Fender Champion 40 w (sgl. 12" speaker) last week, to use with my Lap steels... I was using my Acoustic 100w Bass amp, out of necessity, but it was too "muddy" for use with the lighter strings of the lap steels, as well as for whenever I "mike" any of my Harmonica's. I bought the Fender Champion, due to all the voices & FX sampling, etc. that I can experiment with, as I progress with the steel... also bought a new Morley 20/20 Volume Pedal, and a Boss RV6 Reverb/Delay Pedal which I have hooked up, between the Volume pedal and the amp. I've finished completely restoring the National D8 (Double neck 8), that I mentioned in my first comment/questions to you.. and it came out beautifully.... I have "Scotty's" SIT string sets for it, in.. C6, A6, E7th & E13th... not sure what tunings I will use on it, yet..... need to learn the 6 string, first... so it's back in it's "nearly mint" condition, original Hard case for now. I've saved your YT Channel to my Lap Steel folder in my pc, and will be watching for more (hopefully) "beginner" type videos from you. I appreciate your time and work to put these videos on line.... Thanks again, and Happy(?) 4th of July, Ethan.
Thank you! I'm just starting out with lap steel. This is a big help. I bought a 1956 Fender Champion and a Road King with a Certano note bender. My goal is to learn Mercury Blues by Davis Lindley.
Hey Brother Shaw (and loyal followers)! After nearly 50 years of 6 string electric with a good dose of bottle neck (inspired by living right down the street from Johnny Winter in the 70's) I finally took the plunge and have just received my first Lap Steel. It's a beautiful Duesenberg Split/King with the multibender bridge. They are delivered with an open-D setup but I'd like to go with C6 and then figure out what bends to shoot for with the 2 benders. My concern right now is to figure out the best strings for C6 with this lapsteel and also with the goal of not breaking them with a 'whole-step' bend from the multibender. I am having trouble finding advice on this and so far I can't find anyone that is running a Duesey in C6. Can you offer a little advice to help me get off to a good start? I love your videos so if you can offer some advice I promise to take it and share it. Thanks for the good work you do.
Great video. Thanks. I intend to explore C6, but let me meantime plug a variant of your open G, which I got from rock guitarist David Gilmour. He does an open G with a low D at bottom, but he also tunes the top D up to an E. I’m finding it has a couple of advantages over open G. First, the top four strings are the same as guitar standard tuning, so familiar. Secondly, you have a minor triad in the top four strings. Future video ideas, your tone is great. I’d love to see you share more techniques for how you get it, and also show how you sound on a cheap vs expensive lap steel.
Gilmour really uses the steel in a cool way, and definitely knows what's up! Thanks for the compliment- both those steels are just cheap lap steels, played through a blues jr. Have fun on your steel journey!
Im based in Austin and play Leon McAuliffes e13 and the other neck has changed about 10 times. I started on c6 because of learning material , but I have never enjoyed the sound of c6. It's too high and lacks the perfect timbre of the a6 .lately I use Don Helms e6th and it just sounds right to my ears. With no pesky A string to avoid. Fits right in with western swing to me. Zero learning material but I have to have it. That being said , your c6 sounds way better than mine!
Thanks for watching! I agree, I don't really like C6 with a high G because of the thin sound on top, so I usually use A6 myself ( on an 8-string neck). I do like C6 for 6-string, and I use a Don Helms type tuning (with a G# on top) a lot if I have multiple necks. It's great for that Hank stuff, but also really nice to have that high 3rd for everything.
I really need help.I am new to lap steel guitar.I bought a budget rogue.I was able to tune it to open g,but cannot tune it C6.what type of tuner do I need I have a regular tuner but can't get it to tune the c note it goes from b to d while tuning and skips the c .no help on the Internet.Thanks for any help.Jerry
It sounds like you are using a guitar tuner, or a chromatic tuner in guitar mode. You need to use chromatic mode, and make sure you have a chromatic tuner. You can get a cheap one online. Also, make sure you are using a set of strings designed for C6.
@@texas_swing Thanks so much.I will check into buying a chromatic tuner all I have is a regular tuner.Also will shop for c6 strings. I believe you have solved my problem.Thanks again Jerry
Hi Brother Shaw. Thanks for the video. Which tuning do you think I should use to play some Santo & Johnny songs? I mean, are there materials in one tuning more than another? Thanks.
I need your advice. I am planning on installing Certano benders on the 2nd (whole step) and 3rd (half step) strings. I don't play traditional music (country, blues, etc), it's more of a Lanois ambient stuff. A lot is achieved with m7, m11, maj7, maj9 chords. The ease of using minor is very important. What tuning do you recommend?
You might want to check out the Jerry Byrd diatonic tuning or the Alkire tuning. You can do a google search ro find our more about them. They are very dense tunings.
Any good recommendations on C6 Western swing instructional materials? I feel like I’ve I hit a wall with my progress with C6. I also play an Open E lap steel with palm benders.
That should be fine, if you can find instructional material for it. I might switch it to open G, and there are definitely dobro books you could use to learn it. Most Country Gospel is triadic harmony, so you don't necessarily need a 6th tuning, but "I saw the light" etc., sound really nice in C6 tuning, if you want to go that route. So, I guess you can really use any of those options!
Sorry, I think something was lost in translation here. If you are asking about the G tuning, it is high to low: DBGDBG. Let me know if that's not what you needed to know, and I'll be glad to help.
Something I would like to see a lesson on.. You got a one of those 3 section Lap Steels in front of you with of course 3 tunings. How do you determine what one you use with what Key the song is being played in ? Does it matter if it's just a 1-4-5 or does it make a difference with a minor in there say 1-6m-4-5 ? Thanks
You're right, that would be a good lesson, and I'll try to get on that. To give a short response for now, it mostly depends on what type of chords you need to play in the song (7th, 9th, minor, 13th, etc.) Thanks for watching, and I'll try to get into more detail in a new video.
@@texas_swing - Thank you Brother! I have an inexpensive (new) lap steel that came with flatwoumd strings - I'm assuming they would be suitable for C6 tuning (I am a guitar and 5 string banjo player)?
@@bernhardnizynski4403 No problem! Flat wounds should be fine, as long as they are the right gauges. check here:www.hawaiiansteel.com/learning/gauges.php
Hi! I am disabled and Left handed dominate my cousin who is a professional musician himself who has played with the likes of Waylon, Willie, Ray Price and others suggested this for me, but (Dickie my cousin) forgot to tell me all the essential other pieces I will need ex: an amp, a pedal etc Would you be kind enough to help me with this? Thank you, Respectfully yours, Donna French Lane Kingman Az
Congratulations on getting started! I would highly recommend you check out the videos on my channel that talk about what you need to get started on the lap steel. That should answer a lot of your questions.
Can anyone demystify which set of strings to purchase for Open D tuning? I do not see a set that is dedicated for that. Which gauges, and which set to accommodate the correct tension? For both 6 string and 8 string SX Lap Steel? I don't want to just burn through all my broken strings just to figure it out. Many thanks!
I went with the Rogue simply based on price. I have zero musical knowledge or skill. At 60 trying to learn guitar was too much strain on my wrists. Haven't been able to find a local teacher. So my question is what's the best tuning for a Rogue and a beginner?
i'm worried about how high i have to tune the c e and g strings... i was playing in open d and i want to do c6 but it seems that i have to make the lowest strings high enough that they would snap on me
I got two cheap Rogues. Stuck b benders on 'em. I got one tuned to C6, still trying to decide what to do with tge other one. I dislike the bluesy sound of d or open tunings. I want an all country tuning.
If you want a pedal steel type sound, I would definitely go with open E, with a high G# on top. It depends on what the benders can do, though. You need the G#-A and B-C# changes to get the E9 pedal steel sound.
Just a heads up on making videos. Your electric guitar is much louder than your voice level. Makes viewers turn it down for the guitar, then turn it back up for the voice. Great content though.
He mentioned that open D is the same intervals just dropped down. “Standard D tuning is quite simply dropping standard E tuning by one whole tone on each string. “ - quick Google search. I hope this helps.
Was the dobro tuning GBDGBD or something else? Hard to here the difference between any letter ending "ee". And no one's going to read the notes in the NATO phonetic alphabet -- Golf, Bravo, Delta.
@@texas_swing Thanks for the reply. I hope you took my 'NATO phonetic as the humorous quip it's supposed to be'. I just started playing square-neck and am thinking about getting an electric lap for winter when traveling as I could leave it in my car. It would help to use the same tuning, although I like the sound of that C6.
@@kenkoellner9421 Haha, awesome! Yeah, it's great to have a little lap steel to bang around on trips with. I have one. G major is a great tuning, but C6 has a lot of versatility.
@@texas_swing I just bought a super cheap 6-string as a beater I can leave in my car for practice in the GBDGBD dobro tuning while traveling but seriously considering putting an 8-string Ash SX on my Xmas list and staring with A6.
Your question makes me think either you’re not a slide player, or are secretly Ry Cooder. If you have mad skills, you don’t need open tunings for slide or lap single note licks - but like Texas said, if you’re chording at all, open tunings make sense.
I’m not bitching. I like what you’re teaching and it great. But You play notes over yourself telling us the notes and I’m not sure I’m hearing you correctly as I’m writing these down. Will you yell the notes really loud and let me know you have a sense of humor about my little audio critique? Lol
I’ve had a couple lapsteels for many years and really only used a few time, but just guessed a tuning and tuned open E, Em or E7. Very rudimentary and through osmosis and on the fly. But worked for what I was doing. Now I want to do more. Lol
Sorry but that so-called "Hawaiian Sound" really SUX. I lived there for years and I heard that awful discord noise way too often. It deserves to be FORGOTTEN.
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You are a legend for this one. Guitarist here wanting to learn lap steel, heard about all the tunings, you made it easy to figure out the vibe and benefits of each of them. Thanks so much!
That's great, glad it can help you! If you check out some of the other videos I posted, it should help you get going. Good luck!
Great, thanks.
A great help thank you.❤
Glad it helped!
So helpful! I just received a 6-string lap steel as a gift and really had no idea how I should get started until now. Many thanks! (subscribed!)
Glad it helped! There are some more videos on my channel to help you get started, and more are on the way.
I started out in c6, but i got frustrated with it. I built a ten string lap steel, and tuned it to E13. After playing that tuning for quite sometime, I'm now getting back into 6 string, and have found c6 now very intuitive.
I'm glad it's making more sense this time around! E13 is kind of a hybrid 6th and 9th tuning, so that makes sense.
Really enjoyed this. Had my electromatic around a year now, learning c6 pretty much everything I love works, Hank w, Webb Pierce etc, thanks so much for the video it's very helpful especially as I'm saving for a dobro at present
I'm glad it helped you out!
Thank you for the vid. Just got my 6 string rogue (love picking up different instruments) and can't wait to try it out !!!!!!
Great, I think you'll enjoy it!
I just purchased a 6 string lap steel and I'm LOST. Looking forward to more videos from you.
Thank you 👍🙂
Hang in there, you'll get it!
check out my 12 bar blues video- it should help get you going.
@@texas_swing
Thanks for your information and I look forward to viewing it. ☺️
@@robertmerritt5507 My pleasure, brother!
I was persuaded to tune my National Tricone to C6 by a pedal steel player. What I like is that it is an Am above a C major, with three inversions each. I have left it that way because it is so versatile and playable in any key.
C6 is a great tuning.
I bought my first lap steel today, looked up how to tune and this was the first video that came up and i found it very helpful. Ready to make some noise. Thank you! Subscribed.
Thank you and have fun!
B-11. It's the best.
Very helpful. Thank you so much.
Thanks for watching!
Great info, various turnings always eluded me 👍
Thanks for watching!
Great stuff Ethan, this kind of info is exactly what the novice steel player needs ! And thanks for mentioning A-Higbass 😊!
Thanks, Sebastian! I was actually thinking of you when I mentioned that. You're definitely showing everyone what can be done with that tuning!
@@texas_swing Thanks for the kind words, Ethan, love your playing !
Thanks for this. Waitin for that video on 8-string tunings!
Thanks for watching! That'll be coming up...
Thanks Ethan, can not wait to retune my Harmony and get krankin'!
Omg, im a getting into lap steel, and ive lazily tuned to dadgad and havent been “getting” it, im changing as soon as i get the chance! Thank you ❤
Great, I hope this helps you out!
Informative! Thanks for putting this together.
Thanks for watching!
Excellent subject and great demo. Love the 6th tunings. Very interested in your 8 string stuff. Thanks
Thanks for checking it out!
Thank you very much. Looking forward to more vids, especially in C6.
Thank you very much for being so generous with your time.
Watched the other with the 3 lap string choices, their inventory is taking a beating, need to find one on local online market to get around shipping and the exchange to Canadian.
Thanks for watching! Yeah, sometimes you just have to wait for the right one to show up.
Thanks. C6 it is, for my ancient Supro.
Cool stuff, man. Enjoy the content.
thanks for watching!
thank you! so grateful for the one-stop for everything i need to know to start. all those licks you played is exactly why i want to learn! all the best to you and your followers.
Thanks for watching, and all the best to you, too!
Ethan... Love your video's, and thank you especially for this one! I will be 74 yrs "young" in just a week and a half from now... and decided to "try" and get back onto the Electric Bass just last year (2022), after Not having played since 18 yrs old.... I also want to learn Lap/console Steel, so I've been looking around for a lap steel to practice on.
After watching Your video on the best beginner steels to get... I bought an SX - an Epiphone Electar... A Rogue, a Gretsch 5715 and an "el cheapo" ($146.) double neck 6 from Ebay (which I've wired in a neck selection/isolation switch and 2 new Strat pickups, tone pot and changed the capacitor... tuners are next), as well as a 1956 National D8, which I just got for trading the Rogue & the Gretsch 5715 (Black Sparkle), both of which were "pre-owned", but in excellent shape.
I did Not like the Gretsch for the fact that I felt the strings were too close together for my big hands & fingers.... anyway, I have the National all apart already and am going to do a complete refurbishing on it from the inside/out.. along with new strings, which I already have (selected for C6, A6, open E, D & G (low bass) after it's all done.... just don't know yet, which Two tunings I should apply to it.
As a complete "newbie" to steel, and wanting to focus on & play... Classic Country (late 50's through late 70's/early-mid 80's), Western/Texas Swing & Blue Grass.... what would be Your number one choice of tuning for all or each of these genre's.... as an absolute Beginner, to Learn On?
Would you suggest just learning on ONE lap steel, with just One tuning and IF so, Which Tuning would be Best suited and easiest to learn on.... or is it possible (or even recommended?) to learn more than one tuning at once?..... bottom line is... HELLLLP!?! lol. Any and all suggestions Will Be greatly appreciated!!.... considering all I've written here.
Thanks for your time, Ethan... and any helpful input you can send my way..... I "may be" confusing my own situation (Ya THINK?!!?) with too many "options" in front of me... too soon.
PS: I have stocked up on numerous string sets (23, altogether) in different & duplicate (in case of breakage) tunings for 6 & 8 string steels.... can you help me "sort this out" and get it Simplified.... so I can start learning the steel? Thanks again... Greatly Appreciate your time & suggestions/tips, etc.
I'd stick with just one main steel guitar to start with. whatever your favorite one is. For 6 strings, I'd start with C6. There's a lot of instructional material and it's really versatile. If you ever move into 8 strings, A6 is my favorite, but you can easily translate your C6 knowledge into that. Have fun on your journey, and I'll try to post some more videos to help along the way!
@@texas_swing.... Ethan, Thank you So Much for your reply, I really appreciate it.... and forgive me for my slow response back to you.. I just found it (7.3.2023) after re-watching this video again. I'm taking your advice and going to learn the C6 tuning. I'm replacing the original (Chinese) strings on my Epiphone Electar as I write this (well... stopped while I reply, here), with a new set of SIT's ("Scotty's") gauged for C6 tuning.
I've also tuned my SX to C6 as well, but I think the Epiphone will be my "go to" while learning... I prefer the tone quality it produces better than the SX.... it seems to have a "sweeter/mellower" tone to it. The pickup on the SX is pretty "hot"... and I'm considering changing it out for a much better quality setup.... perhaps a good P-90, coupled with a Humbucker and attendant switch & controls.... which I Love doing, anyway. lol
I just bought a new Fender Champion 40 w (sgl. 12" speaker) last week, to use with my Lap steels... I was using my Acoustic 100w Bass amp, out of necessity, but it was too "muddy" for use with the lighter strings of the lap steels, as well as for whenever I "mike" any of my Harmonica's.
I bought the Fender Champion, due to all the voices & FX sampling, etc. that I can experiment with, as I progress with the steel... also bought a new Morley 20/20 Volume Pedal, and a Boss RV6 Reverb/Delay Pedal which I have hooked up, between the Volume pedal and the amp.
I've finished completely restoring the National D8 (Double neck 8), that I mentioned in my first comment/questions to you.. and it came out beautifully.... I have "Scotty's" SIT string sets for it, in.. C6, A6, E7th & E13th... not sure what tunings I will use on it, yet..... need to learn the 6 string, first... so it's back in it's "nearly mint" condition, original Hard case for now.
I've saved your YT Channel to my Lap Steel folder in my pc, and will be watching for more (hopefully) "beginner" type videos from you. I appreciate your time and work to put these videos on line.... Thanks again, and Happy(?) 4th of July, Ethan.
@@Romans--bo7br Thanks for watching, and you, too!
@@texas_swing...... Thank you! PS; How did you get to be known as "Brother Shaw"??...... a "Brother" in the Lord? : )
@@Romans--bo7br No problem! It was a nickname one of my best friends/bandmates gave me years ago.
Thank you! I'm just starting out with lap steel. This is a big help. I bought a 1956 Fender Champion and a Road King with a Certano note bender. My goal is to learn Mercury Blues by Davis Lindley.
It's a great feeling when you get it down. Have fun!
A worthy goal!
Love your channel Brother Shaw. Liked and subscribed. Thanks for the help for us beginners!
Thank you and I'm glad it's helping!
You're a great player!
thank you!
I tuned mine in G, Major,Has work for me for over 30 years, good l uck!
I love the 8-String A6 tuning.
me too.
Thanks!
Good info. Thx
Thanks for watching!
Thank You! Very informative!
Glad it can help you out- thanks for watching!
Thank you.
Fantastic
Glad it helps!
Awesome👍🎸
thanks for watching!
C6/A6 - Jerry Byrd / Herb Remington
Yep!
The C6 is so cool!
agreed!
Hey Brother Shaw (and loyal followers)! After nearly 50 years of 6 string electric with a good dose of bottle neck (inspired by living right down the street from Johnny Winter in the 70's) I finally took the plunge and have just received my first Lap Steel. It's a beautiful Duesenberg Split/King with the multibender bridge. They are delivered with an open-D setup but I'd like to go with C6 and then figure out what bends to shoot for with the 2 benders. My concern right now is to figure out the best strings for C6 with this lapsteel and also with the goal of not breaking them with a 'whole-step' bend from the multibender. I am having trouble finding advice on this and so far I can't find anyone that is running a Duesey in C6. Can you offer a little advice to help me get off to a good start? I love your videos so if you can offer some advice I promise to take it and share it. Thanks for the good work you do.
You can get a C6 lap steel set on the steel guitar forum. (Just Google it.) That should work just fine for you. Have fun with it!
Great vid thanks .
Thanks for watching, Kevin!
C6 sounds super nice….Im hooked….
Haha, I think you'll like it!
Hey Ethan, may I ask what amp and settings you are using for the Electar Century? I have one too but it doesn't sound as good as yours does! 😄
Sure! It was through a Fender blues Jr. Turn the presence and treble all or most of the way off and use the mid as your treble.
Great video. Thanks.
I intend to explore C6, but let me meantime plug a variant of your open G, which I got from rock guitarist David Gilmour. He does an open G with a low D at bottom, but he also tunes the top D up to an E. I’m finding it has a couple of advantages over open G. First, the top four strings are the same as guitar standard tuning, so familiar. Secondly, you have a minor triad in the top four strings.
Future video ideas, your tone is great. I’d love to see you share more techniques for how you get it, and also show how you sound on a cheap vs expensive lap steel.
Gilmour really uses the steel in a cool way, and definitely knows what's up! Thanks for the compliment- both those steels are just cheap lap steels, played through a blues jr. Have fun on your steel journey!
Bravo!
Thanks for watching!
I got the 8 string SX. My journey begins! 😇
Have fun, brother!
@@texas_swing Thanks, man! 😁
Im based in Austin and play Leon McAuliffes e13 and the other neck has changed about 10 times. I started on c6 because of learning material , but I have never enjoyed the sound of c6. It's too high and lacks the perfect timbre of the a6 .lately I use Don Helms e6th and it just sounds right to my ears. With no pesky A string to avoid. Fits right in with western swing to me. Zero learning material but I have to have it. That being said , your c6 sounds way better than mine!
Thanks for watching! I agree, I don't really like C6 with a high G because of the thin sound on top, so I usually use A6 myself ( on an 8-string neck). I do like C6 for 6-string, and I use a Don Helms type tuning (with a G# on top) a lot if I have multiple necks. It's great for that Hank stuff, but also really nice to have that high 3rd for everything.
Many thanks!!!
thanks for watching!
I really need help.I am new to lap steel guitar.I bought a budget rogue.I was able to tune it to open g,but cannot tune it C6.what type of tuner do I need I have a regular tuner but can't get it to tune the c note it goes from b to d while tuning and skips the c .no help on the Internet.Thanks for any help.Jerry
It sounds like you are using a guitar tuner, or a chromatic tuner in guitar mode. You need to use chromatic mode, and make sure you have a chromatic tuner. You can get a cheap one online. Also, make sure you are using a set of strings designed for C6.
@@texas_swing Thanks so much.I will check into buying a chromatic tuner all I have is a regular tuner.Also will shop for c6 strings. I believe you have solved my problem.Thanks again Jerry
@@JerryBrown-q3b No problem, brother!
A6 all the way for me!
that's the main one I use, too.
Thx for the info. ♥
What is the best wood for lap steel in your opinion?
Thanks for listening! I honestly don't know. I know ash is popular, but there are great steels made out of aluminum!
I've got that same black Epiphone.
They're nice guitars!
Hi Brother Shaw. Thanks for the video. Which tuning do you think I should use to play some Santo & Johnny songs? I mean, are there materials in one tuning more than another? Thanks.
That stuff uses a 6th tuning, so I'd use C6 for 6 string, or C6 or A6 for 8 string.
merci
I need your advice.
I am planning on installing Certano benders on the 2nd (whole step) and 3rd (half step) strings. I don't play traditional music (country, blues, etc), it's more of a Lanois ambient stuff. A lot is achieved with m7, m11, maj7, maj9 chords. The ease of using minor is very important. What tuning do you recommend?
You might want to check out the Jerry Byrd diatonic tuning or the Alkire tuning. You can do a google search ro find our more about them. They are very dense tunings.
Any good recommendations on C6 Western swing instructional materials? I feel like I’ve I hit a wall with my progress with C6. I also play an Open E lap steel with palm benders.
I know Andy Volk and Cindy Cashdollar have C6 material. If you've made it through those, the Jerry Byrd course is pretty tough.
@@texas_swing Thank you! I will check these out.
What tuning if i wanna play along Juicy Lucys 1st album?
That's a great album. I think he played in open G, or maybe open D.
What is the best tuning for Country Gospel. I am trying to learn how to play my new lap steel its tuned in open E right now.
That should be fine, if you can find instructional material for it. I might switch it to open G, and there are definitely dobro books you could use to learn it. Most Country Gospel is triadic harmony, so you don't necessarily need a 6th tuning, but "I saw the light" etc., sound really nice in C6 tuning, if you want to go that route. So, I guess you can really use any of those options!
sound very good !!what its the ampli are you using??
Thank you! I don't remember if I used my Fox Vintage Tweed Twin clone, or just a Blues Jr. I like both!
Hi, I'm starting to play older gospel music! What tuning should I start with?
You can do just about anything with C6!
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I'm gonna buy a lap steel (Gretsch G5700) could you tell me the pulling of the strings to play in G tuning ?
Regards
Sorry, I think something was lost in translation here. If you are asking about the G tuning, it is high to low: DBGDBG. Let me know if that's not what you needed to know, and I'll be glad to help.
@@texas_swing I think the word exact is gauge : example D 011 , B 013, G 020 etc ....Sorry
@@jojolapraline Ahh, got it. Use this chart: www.hawaiiansteel.com/learning/gauges.php
@@texas_swing Thanks 🤙
Something I would like to see a lesson on.. You got a one of those 3 section Lap Steels in front of you with of course 3 tunings. How do you determine what one you use with what Key the song is being played in ? Does it matter if it's just a 1-4-5 or does it make a difference with a minor in there say 1-6m-4-5 ? Thanks
You're right, that would be a good lesson, and I'll try to get on that. To give a short response for now, it mostly depends on what type of chords you need to play in the song (7th, 9th, minor, 13th, etc.) Thanks for watching, and I'll try to get into more detail in a new video.
what string gauge does the last lap steel has on the C6 tuning ? I like that sound the most.
I think that's a 15 on top. You can buy a C6 set.
@@texas_swing thanks! I didn't even know there is own set of strings for lap steels until now :D
I love the C6 tuning! What is the best tuning for Sleepwalk (a la Santo and Johnny)?
C6 is what you'd probably want to use. I can't remember, but that might be the tuning he recorded it with. Any 6th tuning should work pretty well.
@@texas_swing - Thank you Brother! I have an inexpensive (new) lap steel that came with flatwoumd strings - I'm assuming they would be suitable for C6 tuning (I am a guitar and 5 string banjo player)?
@@bernhardnizynski4403 No problem! Flat wounds should be fine, as long as they are the right gauges. check here:www.hawaiiansteel.com/learning/gauges.php
@@texas_swing What a great resource! Thanks for recommending that site. LOTS of useful info there. Steve
@@ScrewballMcAdams glad it helped!
Hi!
I am disabled and Left handed dominate my cousin who is a professional musician himself who has played with the likes of Waylon, Willie, Ray Price and others suggested this for me, but (Dickie my cousin) forgot to tell me all the essential other pieces I will need ex: an amp, a pedal etc
Would you be kind enough to help me with this?
Thank you,
Respectfully yours,
Donna French Lane
Kingman Az
Congratulations on getting started! I would highly recommend you check out the videos on my channel that talk about what you need to get started on the lap steel. That should answer a lot of your questions.
If my song has D, G, Em and A as chords throughout the song, what's a good 6 string lap steel tuning?
C6 has minor chords built into the tuning, so I'd go with that.
@@texas_swingThanks for the reply, appreciate it.
@@oinkooink no problem!
Can anyone demystify which set of strings to purchase for Open D tuning? I do not see a set that is dedicated for that. Which gauges, and which set to accommodate the correct tension? For both 6 string and 8 string SX Lap Steel? I don't want to just burn through all my broken strings just to figure it out. Many thanks!
These should work: www.steelguitarshopper.com/ghs-strings-hawaiian-lap-steel-e-tuning-6-string-set/
What gauge and strings are you using for the c6
I'm not sure of each gauge, but I was using a set of SIT C6 lap steel strings. You can get them on the Steel Guitar Forum.
Wow, you sold me! 😀 Great instructional video sir, been thinking about giving one a try, now I'm definately going to, thanks!
Glad to help- have fun!
What strings do you recommend for the open D tuning?
I think they sell open D sets on the steelguitarforum shop. Or piece them together yourself on Juststings.
P.s...have you a link to 8 strings?
Stay tuned!
I went with the Rogue simply based on price. I have zero musical knowledge or skill. At 60 trying to learn guitar was too much strain on my wrists. Haven't been able to find a local teacher. So my question is what's the best tuning for a Rogue and a beginner?
It depends on what kind of music you want to play. I made a video about that, and If you check out my channel, it should come up. Have fun!
i'm worried about how high i have to tune the c e and g strings... i was playing in open d and i want to do c6 but it seems that i have to make the lowest strings high enough that they would snap on me
I would definitely get a set of strings that is for C6 tuning. You can get them through the steel guitar forum. Happy steelin'!
I got two cheap Rogues. Stuck b benders on 'em. I got one tuned to C6, still trying to decide what to do with tge other one. I dislike the bluesy sound of d or open tunings. I want an all country tuning.
If you want a pedal steel type sound, I would definitely go with open E, with a high G# on top. It depends on what the benders can do, though. You need the G#-A and B-C# changes to get the E9 pedal steel sound.
@@texas_swing Thanks. I was only able to fit b benders on tgem. So I don't have the G, would that still be a good tuning or is there a better one?
@@sesa2984 Any tuning that gives you a 3-4 and a 5-6 should work for that sound. If you just have one raise, I guess the 5-6 would be the best.
@@texas_swing Thank you. I appreciate your time.
@@sesa2984 No problem!
C6 for me
yes, i love c6 because i wanted to sound like the old hank williams recordings
Just a heads up on making videos. Your electric guitar is much louder than your voice level. Makes viewers turn it down for the guitar, then turn it back up for the voice. Great content though.
Don't you need a very special set of strings for C6?
You can't use just a standard guitar set, but you can get a C6 steel guitar set pretty easily, or you can just buy single strings to make a set.
Disappointed that Open E was not even mentioned for a 6 string. Interested in blues.
He mentioned that open D is the same intervals just dropped down. “Standard D tuning is quite simply dropping standard E tuning by one whole tone on each string. “ - quick Google search. I hope this helps.
My grand daddy's ruby red Loney lap steel has been hanging on the wall for 25 years...think I'll take her down and plunk on it.
Have fun!
How to capo steel guitars?
Was the dobro tuning GBDGBD or something else? Hard to here the difference between any letter ending "ee". And no one's going to read the notes in the NATO phonetic alphabet -- Golf, Bravo, Delta.
Yes, that is the main Dobro tuning. If you're having trouble hearing the note names, John Ely's website has the different main tunings spelled out.
@@texas_swing Thanks for the reply. I hope you took my 'NATO phonetic as the humorous quip it's supposed to be'. I just started playing square-neck and am thinking about getting an electric lap for winter when traveling as I could leave it in my car. It would help to use the same tuning, although I like the sound of that C6.
@@kenkoellner9421 Haha, awesome! Yeah, it's great to have a little lap steel to bang around on trips with. I have one. G major is a great tuning, but C6 has a lot of versatility.
@@texas_swing I just bought a super cheap 6-string as a beater I can leave in my car for practice in the GBDGBD dobro tuning while traveling but seriously considering putting an 8-string Ash SX on my Xmas list and staring with A6.
@@kenkoellner9421 I hope Santa is good to you!
Why not use regular guitar tunning, so you Don't have to relearn everything
You definitely could. It would be fine if you're just doing single-note licks, but the other tunings make chordal stuff a lot easier.
Your question makes me think either you’re not a slide player, or are secretly Ry Cooder. If you have mad skills, you don’t need open tunings for slide or lap single note licks - but like Texas said, if you’re chording at all, open tunings make sense.
I’m not bitching. I like what you’re teaching and it great. But You play notes over yourself telling us the notes and I’m not sure I’m hearing you correctly as I’m writing these down. Will you yell the notes really loud and let me know you have a sense of humor about my little audio critique? Lol
I’ve had a couple lapsteels for many years and really only used a few time, but just guessed a tuning and tuned open E, Em or E7. Very rudimentary and through osmosis and on the fly. But worked for what I was doing.
Now I want to do more. Lol
Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
I get that and will keep it in mind in the future. For now, you can go to John Ely's steel website, and he has them all written out.
Sorry but that so-called "Hawaiian Sound" really SUX. I lived there for years and I heard that awful discord noise way too often. It deserves to be FORGOTTEN.
Might want to get your ears checked then.
Very knowledgable but WAYYY too much theory for a newbie
Thank you !
Really helpful. Thanks!
Great explanation. Thanks!
I appreciate you watching!