Man. As a lifelong musician on various instruments, I'm being somewhat humbled by the lap steel as i approach 50. Blows my mind realizing all those O.G. good old boys had perfect relative pitch and insane technical chops with both hands. And then they decided to ramp up the difficulty with pedals. All I wanted was to play Sleep Walk 😅 but it is so much more.
Mr Troy The Hawaiians have a great word describing your gift of teaching .... The word ..( I believe) is.. "manuahi." ..which I understand to mean..." given freely from the heart...no strings attached"" Mahalo for you dedication , teachings, and music... Kona Jack , lake Ontario....
I have ordered all the items listed in your video instructions for putting the Certano benders on a Recording King Lap Steel and am looking so forward to this project and learning to play it. Your tip on the source for strings was spot on, they are the first of the three items to arrive. The only item that does not yet have tracking data is the Certano and I hope it being foreign does not take too long. Thank You
Thanks so much!!! I am in the process of building my first lap steel and although I am a long time guitar player and intermediate woodworker, I have never even played a lap steel in my life. I just know I'll like it. I will start with C6 because I love that sound. I am subscribed and ready to learn. I have the parts and should have my Lap Steel built in a couple months :)
Hi troy watched your videos for a year or so whee an i obtain your diagrams for the ap steel very useful. keep up the great playing great dobro and pedal guitar instruction thanks Tony
Question: I want to learn to play Steely Dan’s cover of “East St. Louis Toodle-oo” on a 6-string lap steel. Is C6 the correct/best tuning for this song? Thanks for your help!
It's personal preference, really. I'm just starting to learn as well, I'm starting on C6 because it's the main tuning used in country and western music. I think open D is used mostly in blues music, open G in bluegrass music. Hope I could help!
Hi, I have a deep body Weissenborn, just a beginner. Can you or anyone tell me if I can tune this instrument safely without causing any damage to C6th tuning using string gauges 015-017-022-026-DY30-DY36. I have asked this on a lot of sites and had no replies. Any advice would be much appreciated.
Probably because that sounds like a Slack Key tuning. Where you are lowering the strings from standard guitar tuning, so it's not hard on the neck of your instrument.
They are the “same” but first notice that there are no strings that are only a whole step away from each other. G/A this is one thing that makes a western steel sound that way the tightly packed chords. I’m guessing the person who suggests the tuning for acoustics is doing strumming.
You will also be using similar string sizes on the “acoustic” tuning. There is no “right” way to do either just that the CEGACE was used A LOT back in the day. But players used many different tunings.
I guess I'm not seeing how you are relating the chord number to the interval. I'm still getting a lot out of this vid, I know enough theory to figure it out once I get going.
Yeah the lesson isn't wrong, I was just stuck in a mode of thinking. It's easier for me to remember the pattern of major and minor intervals if the low note of the interval references the chord. I can see how it's helpful this way as well, but harder to see a pattern. In the chart at 4:25, the second row of chords is how I normally think of it. Then it's easy to transpose that pattern into any key. So, I can think I'm at the V next up will be a minor 3rd or minor 6th interval. At 4:00, I would be thinking V vi vii I ii iii IV .. As long as it helps make music it's all the same.
Hi, Apollo! The great steel and uke player, Gerald Ross, suggested the following gauges for six string C6 strings: low to high .36, .30, .26, .24, .18plain, .16plain - flatwound D'Addario Chromes. I took his advice and am happy with them. The simplest way to get them is to buy them individually through JustStrings.com. All the best to you!
If you are a current guitar player wanting to play a steel guitar, this all probably make (some)sense. However, if you do not play any kind of guitar and wanted to learn to play a steel guitar -- then this is all just a lot of muddy water, and makes no sense what so ever. Sorry.
Man. As a lifelong musician on various instruments, I'm being somewhat humbled by the lap steel as i approach 50. Blows my mind realizing all those O.G. good old boys had perfect relative pitch and insane technical chops with both hands. And then they decided to ramp up the difficulty with pedals. All I wanted was to play Sleep Walk 😅 but it is so much more.
Thank God for RUclips and videos like this, literally! This helps IMMENSELY
Mr Troy
The Hawaiians have a great word describing your gift of teaching ....
The word ..( I believe) is.. "manuahi." ..which I understand to mean..." given freely from the heart...no strings attached""
Mahalo for you dedication , teachings, and music...
Kona Jack , lake Ontario....
As a long time guitarist who decided to learn lap steel in C6, I can say it's thrown me for a bit of a loop, but this helps. Thank you.
This is such a great chart! Genius diagram! Thank YOU Troy! ☺️💖🙏
Incredibly helpful! Seeing basic major and minor triads everywhere, across different string sets, - then the sixths and thirds too . Thanks man.
Wow! Incredible lesson. De-mystified C6 tuning w/ fundamental chord shapes. Absolutely awesome.
Great lesson! This is the true definition of applied theory on the fret board.
I have ordered all the items listed in your video instructions for putting the Certano benders on a Recording King Lap Steel and am looking so forward to this project and learning to play it. Your tip on the source for strings was spot on, they are the first of the three items to arrive. The only item that does not yet have tracking data is the Certano and I hope it being foreign does not take too long. Thank You
you've changed my life forever....thank you.
Thanks so much!!! I am in the process of building my first lap steel and although I am a long time guitar player and intermediate woodworker, I have never even played a lap steel in my life. I just know I'll like it. I will start with C6 because I love that sound. I am subscribed and ready to learn. I have the parts and should have my Lap Steel built in a couple months :)
Hey Sean, how'd you go with the lap steel build, any luck?
Thanks BTDT got any posts of you playing the one you made?
Thank you so much Troy your lessons have been incredibly helpful.
I've been looking for a while for a good video, and I'm glad I found it. Thank you :)
Hi troy watched your videos for a year or so whee an i obtain your diagrams for the ap steel very useful.
keep up the great playing great dobro and pedal guitar instruction thanks Tony
I down loaded this full lesson & charts - its so good well worth it for us beginners - more like it please
Well done and nicely illustrated.
Thank you very much! I just start today lap steel guitar and it's helping me so much!! you are a very good teacher. Thank you again!
thank you so much! i was looking for this months ago and couldn't find anything! thank you! ❤
Amazing! Would you ever make charts like these for Gmaj9 tuning?
This is great, thanks Troy!!!
awesome learning stuff, for me as a beginner.
What tuning would be used to play along wiht a band that is in standard a 440, to play blues etc..
Great lesson
Fin and wonderful teaching
awesome man! This is great!
Question: I want to learn to play Steely Dan’s cover of “East St. Louis Toodle-oo” on a 6-string lap steel. Is C6 the correct/best tuning for this song? Thanks for your help!
Well explained and nice diagrams.
I cant find a simple chart anywhere online showing A, B, C, D, E, F, G, Am, Bm, Cm, Em, Fm, Gm chords in C6 tuning.
Thaaaaank you...all I was looking for 😁😁😁😁
i must say i needed this
Hi Troy, what string gauge would you recommend to give correct tension for playing in C6 tuning on lap steel?may thanks for your great videos
Check out the GHS C6 strings
@@LessonsWithTroy will do thanks
Since i'm planning to learn lap steel guitar can you suggest me to which tuning shall i begin to learn with.. D or C6 ?
It's personal preference, really. I'm just starting to learn as well, I'm starting on C6 because it's the main tuning used in country and western music. I think open D is used mostly in blues music, open G in bluegrass music. Hope I could help!
What is the range of this according to the stave/staff?
Is C6 tuning better for learing lapsteel. I started in Open G. Is there inate differences. asides from shapes and i guess key placement
Bonjour à tous où trouver ces tablatures avec la traduction française, J'appréci beaucoup, merci de bien vouloir me renseigner. Amicalement votre
Any chance you could do a lesson for Sleepwalk in C6?
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Great info
Do you offer charts such as your C6 one in various tunings that I can purchase?
I have several charts on my site www.LWTstreaming.com
I am a beginner. why are we using a c6 set up. what is the advantage?
thanks thanks thanks !!!! 🙏
Hey friend, why tuning is C6, can be Am7, it is the same!
K-bana da Harmonia relative Minor/major. (Same notes)
Hi, I have a deep body Weissenborn, just a beginner. Can you or anyone tell me if I can tune this instrument safely without causing any damage to C6th tuning using string gauges 015-017-022-026-DY30-DY36. I have asked this on a lot of sites and had no replies. Any advice would be much appreciated.
Take a look on John Ely's Website: www.hawaiiansteel.com/learning/gauges.php
Ok help studying LAP STEEL playing in open E
Why is it that C6 tuning is C,E,G,A,C,E for lap steel and C,A,C,G,C,E for acoustic ?
Probably because that sounds like a Slack Key tuning. Where you are lowering the strings from standard guitar tuning, so it's not hard on the neck of your instrument.
I don't know if that's true, but that's my first thought.
They are the “same” but first notice that there are no strings that are only a whole step away from each other. G/A this is one thing that makes a western steel sound that way the tightly packed chords. I’m guessing the person who suggests the tuning for acoustics is doing strumming.
You will also be using similar string sizes on the “acoustic” tuning. There is no “right” way to do either just that the CEGACE was used A LOT back in the day. But players used many different tunings.
Do you tune it in key of c?
thanks T,
I think your second diagram might be incorrect, shouldn't it start on V?
What point in the movie are you referring to?
I guess I'm not seeing how you are relating the chord number to the interval. I'm still getting a lot out of this vid, I know enough theory to figure it out once I get going.
I'm not sure. Contact me from my site and maybe I can explain it to you.
Yeah, I'm not sure what's confusing you. It's just the chords and chord intervals in the Key of C.
Yeah the lesson isn't wrong, I was just stuck in a mode of thinking. It's easier for me to remember the pattern of major and minor intervals if the low note of the interval references the chord. I can see how it's helpful this way as well, but harder to see a pattern. In the chart at 4:25, the second row of chords is how I normally think of it. Then it's easy to transpose that pattern into any key. So, I can think I'm at the V next up will be a minor 3rd or minor 6th interval. At 4:00, I would be thinking V vi vii I ii iii IV .. As long as it helps make music it's all the same.
what gauge set of strings do You use?
Hi, Apollo! The great steel and uke player, Gerald Ross, suggested the following gauges for six string C6 strings: low to high .36, .30, .26, .24, .18plain, .16plain - flatwound D'Addario Chromes. I took his advice and am happy with them. The simplest way to get them is to buy them individually through JustStrings.com. All the best to you!
Bonjour à Tous traduction française svp. Amicalement votre
If you are a current guitar player wanting to play a steel guitar, this all probably make (some)sense. However, if you do not play any kind of guitar and wanted to learn to play a steel guitar -- then this is all just a lot of muddy water, and makes no sense what so ever. Sorry.
Thanks Bob!