HEY BULWARK! PLEASE get the Harris/Walz campaign to start making a big deal out of Vance being one-heartbeat away. An ad should highlight JDVs prior negative statements about Trump (Hitler, Heroin, Never Trump, etc)
@@kathiestickel9247good point. Boy since third week of July on whirlwind state by state stops in short time of campaign time. I believe they have heart enough to do it! 🙏🏻🇺🇸💙⚖️
Trump is the tip of the ICEBERG! I think the DEEP State Republicans put Vance in the VP slot hoping Trump would when Biden was running and they would then assisinate Trump.Making JD President. Now since Harris is winning suddenly TWO assination attempts on Trump? Suddenly JD is the defacto nominee, and trump is a martyr. If Vance loses civil war.
I was at the grocery store earlier. When the cashier asked the old guy in front of me how his day was going, the old guy launched into a rant about Haitians. There's no way that Trump and Vance don't both have blood on their hands from this stupidity.
Good news, JD is so repellent that the thought of him as president is keeping 2 of my MAGA family from voting Trump this time, but i cant convince them to vote Harris yet.
@@chrisose I've tried, as with most MAGA sadly, the vote for a Democrat is visceral, and they still aren't anti-Trump, just exhausted by him, basically the same problem that has kept us in this nightmare for so long.
How easily trump is manipulated is the point of how dangerous he is and exactly the reason Putin and others leaders like Putin who is in a “love” fest with all the love letters between them.
@@rorogexceluk9530I'll go back to Ford's preemptive pardon of Nixon in the name of bringing the nation together. Everytime any of the Trump's trials gets delayed because of legal challenges we can thank Ford for postponing what his actions have made an inevitability. Of course I am assuming that the current SCOTUS would respect precedent which is a mighty big assumption. Now we are reduced to ignoring the ongoing efforts of the GOP to disenfranchise and otherwise suppress the vote in the upcoming election at which time the whole thing becomes moot.
If I were Dana Bash, I would have ended the interview with Vance. The way he kept talking down to her and saying her name at the beginning of every sentence was so condescending. He showed the world what a prick he is.
I was waiting for the crowd behind Vance in Flint to drop their signs and walk off live on t.v. they were whispering to each other, yawning, and looking like zombies. Probably paid. I hope some of those paid people will come forward to fess up!
Remember 2020 he was President. He is just a citizen running for President. If he does it again, he will not have those protections. I think Jack Smith is setting a trap. Waiting to see if he is going to commit crimes.
Exactly! and what will deter him from calling for another coup? The possibility of going to prison isn't going to deter a guy who's already fighting to stay out of a Federal prison cell.
I seriously dont know how you and Tom remain sane after having to watch and listen to Trump crap day after day-can’t wait til its over and I never have to hear his bullsh*t again
I think the word is childish, not childlike. Childlike conveys a sense of innocence and purity, whereas childish has a sense of immaturity bullying brattiness.
Both can be true at the same time. Because the world is so full of so many, many people with none of us being the same, both things ARE true at the same time.
I agree that childlike has a more benign sense-innocence and wonder, whereas childish is used to admonish people because it connotes the less admirable aspects of children like the lack of maturity and lack of impulse control. Let’s keep a word that connotes innocence and wonder far away from describing Trumpist terrorists. Trump is childish and the Bobbsey Twins in the beloved books from my childhood are childlike. Please let’s not ruin everything with Trump
Thank you for calling them psychotic. Some call them “childish”. But to say Trump and his cohorts are “childish” is a big insult to children!!! It’s not right! 🤬
It is embarrassingly obvious that Shady Vance’s"policies" about women and families are rooted in his childhood trauma from which he has never recovered.
JD Vance needs to be called out more. When he says he will continue to call the Haitian immigrants "illegals" when it is pointed out to him they are in the US legally simply because he doesn't think "they" should have allowed them - he should be asked how that reconciles with the "law and order" principles of his party? If anyone can choose to ignore and rewrite a law that they don't agree with, things could get pretty messy, right?
The law is for them and not us. He refuses to call the Haitians immigrants because they’re not the immigrants he wants to see… He is ignoring anyone who says this is a hoax, doesn’t care about the b0mb threats, or if kids are potentially hurt. He doesn’t like them because they’re not the “preferred” immigrants. He’s even ignoring the local officials in order to keep the base riled up.
I really wish everyone that interviews Vance would point out two very important FACTS- 1-they are illegal. They are here legally. 2- They were allowed in under Trump. WHY👏ISNT 👏THIS👏FACT-CHECKED👏EVERY👏TIME 😡🤬
There is a huge antique show in Springfield this weekend. Trump is saying him and Vance are going there. That town already has enough to deal with. Leave them alone.
I agree. How is they can lie, bold facedly, when we know it is a lie AND have this much power. Who is checking and balancing this? NOBODY???? How is that democratic. Pull them out of the running. If you lie and we all know you are lying...you don't get to run for presidency or VP.
This is the question I have been asking for years now. tRump and his cronies have been endangering people with their rhetoric for a very long time. They knowingly use catch phrases and words they know will be interpreted by their followers, as the Proud Boys did, as a call to action that results in harassment, death threats, and violence like January 6th, over and over again. Even if they can say that violence was not their intention, the first or second or even the third time, they have to have caught on by now and should be held responsible. It is disingenuous to say their words are not meant to instigate violence. Ask Paul Pelosi.
Indeed. Made me think of a kid from back in elementary school. I can't remember his name, but I can clearly picture him, with his greasy hair, dirty jeans, and everything.
Thank you. I couldn't agree more. Trump is not that bright and has only one play in his play book. While vance is smart and they are the scariest of psychopath's. I've know a few and he scares me just like they did. We should be very wary of this man. VERY. I am shocked that the other politicians are not screaming about how dangerous he is. How do these men get away with these blatant lies, to your face and nobody in power does a thing. Very scary.
@@NatashaFitnessYogaPilateshe did admit to telling his 7 yr old to "shut the hell up" bc he was on the phone with trump. I'm sure his whole family gets emotionally abused by him.
Now if only someone could talk to her and ask her if Vance and 45 could lie, trick and fool you about that, what other lies or tricks are they pulling on you.
I only realized at the end that Tom wrote that wonderful piece about his cat. Its so nice to know that you were able to open your hearts to Lily, and that sounds like the perfect decision criterion.
The accordion technique is helpful if you absolutely have to listen to him... (picture him holding one and imagine the music. It's better than the sound of his voice. And kinda funny.) 🪗🍊
I dunno. A viewer expressed sympathy for Mark Robinson's wife yesterday, and someone responded that she's just as bad - apparently cheated some charities. JD and Usha may have corresponding political views and non-ethical financial aims for all we know. We wasted time feeling sorry for Melania for a while too.
Imagine how easy it would be to interview a dual panel of Tom Nichols and David Frum. You'd just say 'topic: go', and then the pair of them would rattle off, off the top of their heads, brilliant, witty, insightful, and eloquent paragraphs until everything ever worth saying about the topic had been said. And then you'd just say 'topic 2, go' and continue on like that and hours could go by without anyone noticing the passage of time.
@@nHautamaki fantastic idea, I will second that on the main comments page! I haven't seen Tom Nichols ever on a liberal podcast or RUclips before this, and he's already one of my favorites! Along with David Pakman and Brian Tyler Cohen. Astute, well informed, very intelligent, insightful and a great communicator! Everything I respect about liberals--and the lack of which I abhor about idiot ideologue dumb gullible selfish narcissistic conservatives.
J.D. vance has forgotten about the 14 leadership traits of the USMC. Bearing, Courage, decisiveness, Dependability, Endurance, enthusiasm, Initiative,integrity, Justice,Judgment, knowledge, loyalty,Tact and unselfishness.
Vance was a reporter and wasn’t there long enough to immerse himself in the USMC culture of Semper Fi. He is not Fidelis to anyone or anything but his own power.
The sheriff in Ohio that doubled down on his threat to take down names/addresses of people with Harris/Walz signs made me go through the roof. That is voter intimidation! He should be fired and arrested. This sh** is so wrong.
Right… maybe she should be a more responsible pet owner and not let her cat out, then she wouldn’t have to jump to wildly racist & trashy conclusions that do actual harm 🤷♀️ maybe someone should report her to the spca if she keeps letting her cat out 😂
@sarahchristine2345 who tf jumps to that conclusion?! "My cat is missing, my black neighbors must have eaten it!" It's not only racist, it's unhinged. She should be arrested for filing a false police report.
Psychotic would mean they do not know right from wrong and are not responsible for their actions. They are NOT psychotic. Sociopathic, yes, psychotic, no.
It's hard to remember all the tragedies that politics has caused. Not saying it's right, just I don't personally know how to function if I try remembering it all.
Tim, Bill, Sarah, Tom.... Good work!! Its critical you keep getting those great "I'm voting for Kamala" Republican voter videos out there -- in volume!! Now that changes votes, folks.
Can someone please ask Trump directly why he cannot distinguish between "asylum seekers" coming to the country and people from "insane asylums"? Because that is why he raised Hannibal Lector - he got confused about the two. And he has just doubled down. And for a candidate campaigning on immigration, shouldn't he be expected to know the difference?
Stop on. This man Vance isn't healed from his chaotic, abusive childhood. He has no business being in government. Can't put him in the White House. Vote blue.
@@StevenMcsweeney-k4e Does Vance's oath really count as he was a type-writer warrior in what was it Iraq(?) for 4 years and he really didn't mean it when he said it?
@@kavflyladyvillery858If he did mean it then he'd be using his military career as a good thing instead if putting down fellow service members like Tim Walz. My late husband was a Marine Corp Vietnam combat vet and would be appalled at what has happened when you forget your oath.
@@kavflyladyvillery858He spent 6 mos. In Iraq far away from any combat. Safely tucked away in an office brown-nosing and drinking coffee with officers all day.
It's pronounced "apple-LOGE-ee-uh" I'm 68, have lived through many elections and campaigns, and I have never seen evil like Trump. IT started when Obama was elected and McConnell decided to block everything he wanted to do, and Trump started the birther crap. I worked in criminal justice for 24 years and never felt fear or anxiety. The last 8 years I have been consumed with rage and feelings of helplessness. If Trump loses, my sincere hope is that we can get back to the normal push and pull of bipartisan politics. A healthy two party system is productive, but this crap - OMG. It's just nuts. I want to be able to live my life without the fear and anger Trump inspires. As for dabbling - I started in the 70's and continue today. It helps.
Be well, hang in there. I know the feeling of tryna talk about things and nobody is there and then talking to those who understand 💯. I hope you have someone who feels and thinks like you do. I hope you will join us in voting blue in all elections to keep our country moving forward during these trying times and get each and every Maga faciast outta our government for good no more Trump never again never or anyone like him, and if we accomplish keeping Trump outta office we will have done a great thing for all Americans even the ones who can't or refuse to do it for themselves. VOTE, VOTE, VOTE BLUE IN ALL ELECTIONS.
He is just like that. A wanna be bully who don't have the guts to have his own words. He has never answered a question directly. He isn't even a very good liar. Sick.
Please put a reasonable end of the Springfield, Ohio story. It has the power to fuel the Trump campaign of fear and hate. The narrative has to be changed (i.e., the mayor of Springfield). Voters need to know (succinctly) that the town was fine before Vance and Trump.
There are threats of violence and school bombings threatened. Several schools have had to close until the threats of violence against Haitian people stops.
Appreciate bigly the perspective of Tom Nichols - always entertaining and, more importantly, informative and perceptive. Thanks for having him on as regularly as you do, Tim. Good exchange!
Trump wants to get rid of the Dept of Education. No pre-K childcare like Head Start which really helps children to start school with a lot of basic knowledge. It would reduce the amount of government funds going to schools.
Tim thank you for all the real comments that you make in this podcast. Many times, you will say a curse word that is EXACTLY what I am thinking! I appreciate your candor and intelligence! The Bulwark is a great podcast.
The Fact that Trump went with the dog and cat spiel at the debate demonstrates just what a child he is and how absolutely UNqualified he is to run for any office in our country
JD Vance being childlike is so true. When I heard him down play a bomb threat because there were no bombs, I thought he was disingenuous or stupid. The problem with bomb threats is that they scare people and disrupt school and business and waste resources trying to verify the threats.
"Childish" is th word wanted here. Childlike has a connotation of the good parts of having, say, childlike wonder. Childish is the term for destructive aspects.
AND we want him jailed as the result of a legitimate indictment, trial, conviction and sentencing…and to live out a very long life, in safety, incarcerated with no internet access!
Thank you! Moral character, honor & conduct matter in our elected leaders. Proud conservative Christian, Texan and patriot putting Country over an unhinged Republican party - voting ALL BLUE. ✝️🇺🇸🧢🧢🧢 We will not bear good fruit in our country with a convicted felon. Country over party! 🇺🇸
Arrested development seems to be front and center with Vance and Trump. In my area I’m much more concerned with coyotes and cougars than racist tropes. Vote Blue 🌊
TERRIFIC episode! Tim, you're always "on point" but an outstanding guest like Tom Nichols guarantees an especially noteworthy outcome. I ALWAYS learn a lot from really smart guys like the two of you. Therefore, I want to thank you & The Bulwark & Pod Save America for this ongoing, badly needed enlightenment. 💙🎉
What JD Vance is doing is similar to an abusive husband who tells his wife she needs to stop talking to her family and friends that they are no good for what ever reasons they can. It is isolating them from everyone and setting themselves up as the only voice they should listen too.
It’s called gaslighting. Abusive husbands number one trick.. Walz has to be prepared for him to gaslight viewers cause Vance is getting better with practice.
He is worse. Trump is piss poor and mentally ill, but vance is evil. Trump is just a little boy wanting daddy's approval. Vance is MUCH worse. People say he is a hanger on. NAW...he wants to take all of that power and abuse it. He would destroy trump in a heartbeat if it made him king of the hill.
No Trump is smart enough to play dumb,which makes Trump more dangerous. Wait if god forbid he gets back into office then we will truly see the real evil he is. Anyway voting blue is what we must do now to make sure that doesn't happen again never or anyone like him .the whole 💙 👍 💙 👍 💙 👍 world 🌎 💙 👍 👌 is 🌎 👍 💙 👌 🔥 💯 🌎 👍 💙 watching 🌎 💙 👍 👌 👀 😀 🌎 💙 and hoping 🌎 💙 👍 👌 😀 😳 that 🌎 👍 🔥 👌 💯 Americans choose democracy in the next elections 👍 🌎 💙 👀 😳
Trump has promised a "bloodbath" if he loses the election. His MAGA followers want a civil war if Trump loses. These people apparently aren't listening to what Trump is saying. They don't remember that Trump said he loved the uneducated. That says that he thinks that these people are stupid
Loved the Exorcist quote 😆 why you do this to me Dimi? Anyway...former Independant, now registered Democrat since 2016 and I have really been enjoying the Bulwark lately. Thanks!
I'm convinced Clarence Thomas' (alleged) pubic hair comment came from The Exorcist. Go to the party scene at Chris McNeil's house, and pay attention to what Burke Dennings says. JAMES
It’s so annoying this Trump talking point can’t imagine this man running as a President of USA. He is not qualified even in the Third world country. Vote Blue America. So Trump will go to jail.
From Australia My response to Vance’s accusation that your side tried to kill Trump twice would have been The two assassins were republicans and it was not a democrat because they have better aim.
Tim, I've literally listened to the first few minutes of this Bulwark segment at least six times. Your deadpan delivery of the cat's name pretty much slayed me. Of course I watched the whole segment...excellent discussion as always.
HEY BULWARK! PLEASE get the Harris/Walz campaign to start making a big deal out of Vance being one-heartbeat away. An ad should highlight JDVs prior negative statements about Trump (Hitler, Heroin, Never Trump, etc)
Get them to campaign in Ohio. There are more supporters that can be taken from Trump than they think.
@@kathiestickel9247good point. Boy since third week of July on whirlwind state by state stops in short time of campaign time. I believe they have heart enough to do it! 🙏🏻🇺🇸💙⚖️
☝️THIS!☝️
"Original Post"
When you said one heart beat away i got a woodie. Is that wrong?
Vance is even more repulsive than Trump. I never saw this coming - I thought Trump was the worst but Vance takes loathsomeness down to another level.
Ditto
Unlimited supply of vile narcissistic sociopaths with money it turns out. This is why we need to get the huge money out of politics.
Trump is the tip of the ICEBERG! I think the DEEP State Republicans put Vance in the VP slot hoping Trump would when Biden was running and they would then assisinate Trump.Making JD President. Now since Harris is winning suddenly TWO assination attempts on Trump? Suddenly JD is the defacto nominee, and trump is a martyr. If Vance loses civil war.
the scary part is Vance speaks like a normal person, as opposed to batshit Dumbold. It's all bs but Vance sounds educated with it
I have to say I agree. I think Donald Trump doesn't always know what he's saying. he can be quite dumb. JD is not stupid and it's sinister
I was at the grocery store earlier. When the cashier asked the old guy in front of me how his day was going, the old guy launched into a rant about Haitians. There's no way that Trump and Vance don't both have blood on their hands from this stupidity.
I hope you corrected him.
@rosella1919
Reread last Sentence
No correction needed
Old guy probably doesn't even know where Haiti is located.
@@StopWhining491Haysha- Duh!
🙄
The willful ignorance is intolerable.
wow such idiocy is sickening. I can hardly believe it.
Good news, JD is so repellent that the thought of him as president is keeping 2 of my MAGA family from voting Trump this time, but i cant convince them to vote Harris yet.
It's a step in the right direction
Keep talking to them.
Point out that voting for Harris with double the impact of their decision.
Keep sharing information about Harris and Walz and the stark contrast between them and Trump and Vance
@@chrisose I've tried, as with most MAGA sadly, the vote for a Democrat is visceral, and they still aren't anti-Trump, just exhausted by him, basically the same problem that has kept us in this nightmare for so long.
What's even more pathetic is that apparently, neither Trump or Vance can figure out where Haitians hail from.
Totally flabbergasted at the pronunciation from Vance. He’s prejudiced and doesn’t even know whom he’s against…Vote blue! 💙🌊💙🌊💙🌊💙🌊
Right 💯‼️ 😂
Well they’re from “Haitia” according to Vance 🤦🏼♀️
Venezuela or Hay-sha. Pathetic
Apparently VENEZUELA
Part of the reason we are here is because Trump wasn't punished for Jan. 6th.
And because the MAGAts kept him from being impeached and removed from office prior to that.
Yet.
How easily trump is manipulated is the point of how dangerous he is and exactly the reason Putin and others leaders like Putin who is in a “love” fest with all the love letters between them.
I would go back further … when he was impeached & current corrupt GOP Congress saved him twice
Grrrr 🙈
@@rorogexceluk9530I'll go back to Ford's preemptive pardon of Nixon in the name of bringing the nation together. Everytime any of the Trump's trials gets delayed because of legal challenges we can thank Ford for postponing what his actions have made an inevitability.
Of course I am assuming that the current SCOTUS would respect precedent which is a mighty big assumption.
Now we are reduced to ignoring the ongoing efforts of the GOP to disenfranchise and otherwise suppress the vote in the upcoming election at which time the whole thing becomes moot.
If I were Dana Bash, I would have ended the interview with Vance. The way he kept talking down to her and saying her name at the beginning of every sentence was so condescending. He showed the world what a prick he is.
I was waiting for the crowd behind Vance in Flint to drop their signs and walk off live on t.v. they were whispering to each other, yawning, and looking like zombies. Probably paid. I hope some of those paid people will come forward to fess up!
She didn't even know why she should fact check trump, I don't think she's tooled for those types of individuals.
I agree. Women need to stand up to these fools.
Dana bash is an embarrassment to journalists. She doesn’t have the guts to do her job. Period
They are showing you, project 2025 is real 💯
He absolutely will do a J6 again because there were no consequences.
Thank you , merrick garland !
Remember 2020 he was President. He is just a citizen running for President. If he does it again, he will not have those protections.
I think Jack Smith is setting a trap. Waiting to see if he is going to commit crimes.
SCOTUS 6:3 were all in! It’s just sickening.🙏🏻🇺🇸⚖️💙🔥🗽🩺🗳️🕊️
VP Harris will oversee the electoral college Jan 6 2025.
Exactly! and what will deter him from calling for another coup? The possibility of going to prison isn't going to deter a guy who's already fighting to stay out of a Federal prison cell.
I seriously dont know how you and Tom remain sane after having to watch and listen to Trump crap day after day-can’t wait til its over and I never have to hear his bullsh*t again
“The more society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it” ~ George Orwell
WOW!
Sewlyn quote
Orwell was brilliantly insightful
The Bulwark gets more important and better everyday. Thank you all! (and Tom Nichols is a great guest and a better person).
I love Tom and Tim conversations...could listen to you two all day!
I think the word is childish, not childlike. Childlike conveys a sense of innocence and purity, whereas childish has a sense of immaturity bullying brattiness.
Agreed!
Both can be true at the same time. Because the world is so full of so many, many people with none of us being the same, both things ARE true at the same time.
I agree that childlike has a more benign sense-innocence and wonder, whereas childish is used to admonish people because it connotes the less admirable aspects of children like the lack of maturity and lack of impulse control. Let’s keep a word that connotes innocence and wonder far away from describing Trumpist terrorists. Trump is childish and the Bobbsey Twins in the beloved books from my childhood are childlike. Please let’s not ruin everything with Trump
😊
Excellent distinction!!
The only thing Trump regrets about Jan. 6 is that it failed.
Bingo!
THAT'S because he's not been to prison,YET! (Fingers crossed)
Harris / Walz down the 🗳️🗳️🗳️🗳️🎉💙💙💙
Ding! Ding! Ding!
We have a winner! 👍
Truth.
Yep!
Thank you for calling them psychotic. Some call them “childish”. But to say Trump and his cohorts are “childish” is a big insult to children!!! It’s not right! 🤬
It is embarrassingly obvious that Shady Vance’s"policies" about women and families are rooted in his childhood trauma from which he has never recovered.
Instead of taking it out in the country he should embrace the 21st Century and go to therapy like normal people do.
I ran his geneology...his childhood was pretty messed up, but no more than mine, or Ophra's or many others.
His stance is from his patron Peter,Theil
100%
@@JorraneReiI'm so sick of JD taking out his mommy issues on all women. Then there's trump with his daddy's racist issues.
JD Vance needs to be called out more. When he says he will continue to call the Haitian immigrants "illegals" when it is pointed out to him they are in the US legally simply because he doesn't think "they" should have allowed them - he should be asked how that reconciles with the "law and order" principles of his party? If anyone can choose to ignore and rewrite a law that they don't agree with, things could get pretty messy, right?
A lot of them came on lottery visas in 2018, so I guess "they" is Trump??
The law is for them and not us. He refuses to call the Haitians immigrants because they’re not the immigrants he wants to see… He is ignoring anyone who says this is a hoax, doesn’t care about the b0mb threats, or if kids are potentially hurt. He doesn’t like them because they’re not the “preferred” immigrants. He’s even ignoring the local officials in order to keep the base riled up.
I really wish everyone that interviews Vance would point out two very important FACTS-
1-they are illegal. They are here legally.
2- They were allowed in under Trump.
WHY👏ISNT 👏THIS👏FACT-CHECKED👏EVERY👏TIME 😡🤬
Vance's bald faced , I will make up lies if it will get us publicity, innocent lives be damned, was beyond loathsome.
Republican Party has principles?
I love Tom Nichols. He's amazingly insightful. Hands down my favorite Bulwark guest.
Between he and Tim, it feels like Christmas!
Agree, Tom on the Bulwark is my favorite, and this time on my birthday...such a gift!
There is a huge antique show in Springfield this weekend. Trump is saying him and Vance are going there. That town already has enough to deal with. Leave them alone.
Springfield already said they should not go there.
Trump IS an antique. Maybe Vance can sell him😅
😂@@CherylHughes-ts9jz
Trump is one of the antiques
They should be barred from entering! Lock down the town. Shutter the windows. Close all the stores. Put National Guard on all the streets.
Shouldn't they be charged with a hate crime for what they're doing to the Hatians and people of Springfield?
I agree. How is they can lie, bold facedly, when we know it is a lie AND have this much power. Who is checking and balancing this? NOBODY???? How is that democratic. Pull them out of the running. If you lie and we all know you are lying...you don't get to run for presidency or VP.
This is the question I have been asking for years now. tRump and his cronies have been endangering people with their rhetoric for a very long time. They knowingly use catch phrases and words they know will be interpreted by their followers, as the Proud Boys did, as a call to action that results in harassment, death threats, and violence like January 6th, over and over again. Even if they can say that violence was not their intention, the first or second or even the third time, they have to have caught on by now and should be held responsible. It is disingenuous to say their words are not meant to instigate violence. Ask Paul Pelosi.
Targeting a race or ethnic group is the definition of a Hate crime.
@@theswiftschoolofselfhealingSupreme Court ruled lying is free speech.
@@richardarriaga6271 unfortunately true
I always enjoy listening to Tom Nichols. And he unsurprisingly pronounced “apologia” correctly.
Calling them childish is insulting to children. But totally agree that they're not fully formed adult humans.
The only thing Trump vetted about that guy is if he would overturn an election if asked.
Bingo
Bingo we have bingo. 🏆
I love it when Tim has Tom on to chat. It's always the best time on the Bulwark.
_jd is a "hanger-on" with the elementary school bully_ .
Spot on assessment.
So true!!
🙏🏻🇺🇸⚖️💙🔥🩺🗳️🕊️
My mum said that of Boris Johnson's first cabinet but same energy for sure
Indeed. Made me think of a kid from back in elementary school. I can't remember his name, but I can clearly picture him, with his greasy hair, dirty jeans, and everything.
We used to call them toadies
I keep saying this about Vance. He is so much more dangerous than Trump because he seems smart because he does know exactly what he is doing.
No Trump is smart enough to play dumb.that makes Trump more dangerous.but anyway they both are dangerous.
Thank you. I couldn't agree more. Trump is not that bright and has only one play in his play book. While vance is smart and they are the scariest of psychopath's. I've know a few and he scares me just like they did. We should be very wary of this man. VERY. I am shocked that the other politicians are not screaming about how dangerous he is. How do these men get away with these blatant lies, to your face and nobody in power does a thing. Very scary.
Is he smart? He talks about the country or Haitia.
I say this all the time!
He's intelligent but not wise. What makes him truly dangerous is his lack of morals and his unbridled thirst for money and power.
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The look in jd's eyes when he was condescending and rude to Dana Bash was scary.
Run, Usha, run.
Ugh, he was so smug and condescending. Hated the way he kept saying her name.
@@kaygee2277 yep it was weird and a little bit creepy (thank you Coach)
The way he told her to shut up told me he absolutely talks to his wife that way 😣
I’m not very happy with Dana but, she didn’t deserve his treatment.
@@NatashaFitnessYogaPilateshe did admit to telling his 7 yr old to "shut the hell up" bc he was on the phone with trump. I'm sure his whole family gets emotionally abused by him.
Tom Nichols is THE best! I could listen to him anytime anywhere! Thank you Tom and Tim 👍
I love that she admits she was fooled and apologizes... It's the only way we get back to civilized discourse.
Wait what!!!??
Did she say who she will vote for?
Now if only someone could talk to her and ask her if Vance and 45 could lie, trick and fool you about that, what other lies or tricks are they pulling on you.
@@michaelpatterson1397She was wearing a Trump Tshirt, so…
Yup JD is a chameleon sociopath. Thanks for saying it out loud.
Yeah, and they're 6th graders, not 7th graders.
He doesn't know the country is Haiti, not "Hatia".
@@sufranklin4439 Yale Law Degree and says "Hatia"...wow
@@C_mao
"The Talented Mr Ripley" without the talent.
@@AM-fs1je 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I only realized at the end that Tom wrote that wonderful piece about his cat. Its so nice to know that you were able to open your hearts to Lily, and that sounds like the perfect decision criterion.
Listening to Trump is actually painful!
True.
Oh I can't. He is so bad for my mental health!!!
The accordion technique is helpful if you absolutely have to listen to him... (picture him holding one and imagine the music. It's better than the sound of his voice. And kinda funny.) 🪗🍊
me too! I can’t wait for him to go away foo please!
honesty i hate hearing his voice and looking at him, makes me nauseous.
I cannot believe Vance's wife is still standing beside him. Being from a minority community she should be appalled by his reckless behavior.
He loves the smell of curry.
If she had the ability to stand up to him, they probably wouldn't be married.
Says alot about HER (Mrs. Vance).
I predict a divorce in their near future.
I dunno. A viewer expressed sympathy for Mark Robinson's wife yesterday, and someone responded that she's just as bad - apparently cheated some charities. JD and Usha may have corresponding political views and non-ethical financial aims for all we know. We wasted time feeling sorry for Melania for a while too.
Tom is so refreshing. Keep calling it out.
Tim, I love when you bring Tom Nichols for one of your chats. He's really become one of my favorite guests.
Same here!
Imagine how easy it would be to interview a dual panel of Tom Nichols and David Frum. You'd just say 'topic: go', and then the pair of them would rattle off, off the top of their heads, brilliant, witty, insightful, and eloquent paragraphs until everything ever worth saying about the topic had been said. And then you'd just say 'topic 2, go' and continue on like that and hours could go by without anyone noticing the passage of time.
@@nHautamaki That is my Super Bowl right there.
@@nHautamaki fantastic idea, I will second that on the main comments page! I haven't seen Tom Nichols ever on a liberal podcast or RUclips before this, and he's already one of my favorites! Along with David Pakman and Brian Tyler Cohen. Astute, well informed, very intelligent, insightful and a great communicator! Everything I respect about liberals--and the lack of which I abhor about idiot ideologue dumb gullible selfish narcissistic conservatives.
J.D. vance has forgotten about the 14 leadership traits of the USMC. Bearing, Courage, decisiveness, Dependability, Endurance, enthusiasm, Initiative,integrity, Justice,Judgment, knowledge, loyalty,Tact and unselfishness.
Vance was a reporter and wasn’t there long enough to immerse himself in the USMC culture of Semper Fi. He is not Fidelis to anyone or anything but his own power.
Semper Fi! USMC 68-71. Lady Leatherneck😊. Vance is an embarrassment!😮
thanks for sharing your info, he missed all of them
hes bombing most of that list for sure. yuck
Yep, he got none.of that!
The sheriff in Ohio that doubled down on his threat to take down names/addresses of people with Harris/Walz signs made me go through the roof. That is voter intimidation! He should be fired and arrested. This sh** is so wrong.
It is also illegal, so yes, he should be fired, arrested and charged with voter intimidation.
He was fired😊
_jd is an empty vessel of pure ambition_
Another spot on assessment.
Miss Sassy wants to get away from her MAGA owners.
Right????
That's why we should be welcoming to the Miss Sassys who are looking for a reason to dump Trump.
Right… maybe she should be a more responsible pet owner and not let her cat out, then she wouldn’t have to jump to wildly racist & trashy conclusions that do actual harm 🤷♀️ maybe someone should report her to the spca if she keeps letting her cat out 😂
Pets don’t like toxic anger anymore than the rest of us.
@sarahchristine2345 who tf jumps to that conclusion?! "My cat is missing, my black neighbors must have eaten it!"
It's not only racist, it's unhinged. She should be arrested for filing a false police report.
I always love hearing Tom Nichols. The two of you hit it out of the park. 🎉
Psychotic would mean they do not know right from wrong and are not responsible for their actions. They are NOT psychotic. Sociopathic, yes, psychotic, no.
Has everyone already forgotten about the American Muslim 6 year old who was stabbed to death by a crazed neighbor? I guess we've moved on.
I didn't hear about this. I am so damn sorry. Children should be off limits, always.
It's hard to remember all the tragedies that politics has caused. Not saying it's right, just I don't personally know how to function if I try remembering it all.
I hadn't heard about that either, rest her soul.
Typical coward not to pick on someone his own size. Not forgotten, but so many news cycles ago.
I think this was post Hamas attack? I believe the little boy was a Muslim in the Midwest?
Tim, Bill, Sarah, Tom.... Good work!! Its critical you keep getting those great "I'm voting for Kamala" Republican voter videos out there -- in volume!! Now that changes votes, folks.
Can someone please ask Trump directly why he cannot distinguish between "asylum seekers" coming to the country and people from "insane asylums"? Because that is why he raised Hannibal Lector - he got confused about the two. And he has just doubled down. And for a candidate campaigning on immigration, shouldn't he be expected to know the difference?
You give him way too much credit for knowing the difference. He's speaking to his angry frightened ignorant base who really don't know or care.
He’s also confused with immigrantion visas and Visa credit cards.
No, he skipped all his class and had someone take his exams. I don't think he ever we t to grammar school 😉
So who was it he confused with Hannibal Lecter? I'm oddly curious about the answer.
@@IndomitableAde the guess is that he thinks asylum-seekers = insane asylum residents = hannibal lecter.
His wounded inner child in full display, acting out against others because of his rage.
"Taylor says she's not going to vote for me. Waaaaaa. 🍼
Now I hate Taylor.
Nanny nannny new new.
Ha! I win!" 🤣🤣🤣
I wonder what JP Mandell did with Peter Teal to get all that money from him?
HE NEEDS PSYCHOLOGICAL HELP. VERY CONCERNED ABOUT HIS WIFE SAFETY
His self-loathing is huge
Stop on. This man Vance isn't healed from his chaotic, abusive childhood. He has no business being in government. Can't put him in the White House. Vote blue.
Have those horrible folks forgotten Trump's family, wives, in-laws are ALL immigrants?!
Trump’s mother was an immigrant from my country Scotland so we have to put up with his golf courses
Vance is NUTS, disgusting throws his own constituents UNDER THE BUS
As a MARINE veteran Vance shames us l took an oath that has no expression date, Vances has oath has expired!
USMC vet.
I took that same oath in 1980 Air Force boot camp. Doesn’t expire and incredibly easy to live by. Thank you for your service.
Thank you both for your sacrifices for this country.
I’m sorry people like trump and vance are 💩’ing all over that.
❤️🤍💙
@@StevenMcsweeney-k4e Does Vance's oath really count as he was a type-writer warrior in what was it Iraq(?) for 4 years and he really didn't mean it when he said it?
@@kavflyladyvillery858If he did mean it then he'd be using his military career as a good thing instead if putting down fellow service members like Tim Walz.
My late husband was a Marine Corp Vietnam combat vet and would be appalled at what has happened when you forget your oath.
@@kavflyladyvillery858He spent 6 mos. In Iraq far away from any combat. Safely tucked away in an office brown-nosing and drinking coffee with officers all day.
Great conversation -- will always stop & listen to Tom Nichols!
Miss Sassy's story should be used by the Harris campaign.
Great idea. 👍
Yessssssssssss 👍🏾
It’s sad the residents of Springfield don’t have Secret Service protection!!!
Maybe they can borrow one or two from Trump, then he may stay off the golf course and be safe.
Always great to listen to Tom. Thanks for having him on.
It's pronounced "apple-LOGE-ee-uh"
I'm 68, have lived through many elections and campaigns, and I have never seen evil like Trump. IT started when Obama was elected and McConnell decided to block everything he wanted to do, and Trump started the birther crap. I worked in criminal justice for 24 years and never felt fear or anxiety. The last 8 years I have been consumed with rage and feelings of helplessness. If Trump loses, my sincere hope is that we can get back to the normal push and pull of bipartisan politics. A healthy two party system is productive, but this crap - OMG. It's just nuts. I want to be able to live my life without the fear and anger Trump inspires. As for dabbling - I started in the 70's and continue today. It helps.
Be safe, be well, have faith, hang in there!
I hear you. These are very scary times.
Be well, hang in there. I know the feeling of tryna talk about things and nobody is there and then talking to those who understand 💯. I hope you have someone who feels and thinks like you do. I hope you will join us in voting blue in all elections to keep our country moving forward during these trying times and get each and every Maga faciast outta our government for good no more Trump never again never or anyone like him, and if we accomplish keeping Trump outta office we will have done a great thing for all Americans even the ones who can't or refuse to do it for themselves. VOTE, VOTE, VOTE BLUE IN ALL ELECTIONS.
I've heard it both ways:
"Apple-oh-GEE-ah" vs "Apollo-gee-AH" 🤔🤷🏻♀️
The rest I agree with 💯
I’m with you 66 volunteered for McGovern at 13, paid attention to politics all my life, and never ever seen anything like these nimrods
He is just like that. A wanna be bully who don't have the guts to have his own words. He has never answered a question directly. He isn't even a very good liar. Sick.
Loved this interview with Tom Nichols! So down to earth and tell it like it is…Thanks so much Tim!
"Psychopathic, gaslighting narcissist is written all over his face!!!
If Vance still had a spine he'd be saying the same things he said about Trump in 2016. I guess Thiel owns that too.
Great video, guys!! Thank you for stating the facts
VOTE BLUE 💙💙💙
Please put a reasonable end of the Springfield, Ohio story. It has the power to fuel the Trump campaign of fear and hate. The narrative has to be changed (i.e., the mayor of Springfield). Voters need to know (succinctly) that the town was fine before Vance and Trump.
There are threats of violence and school bombings threatened. Several schools have had to close until the threats of violence against Haitian people stops.
Appreciate bigly the perspective of Tom Nichols - always entertaining and, more importantly, informative and perceptive. Thanks for having him on as regularly as you do, Tim. Good exchange!
As a grandmother to a 7th grader, please don’t insult him. He’s smart, considerate, and has compassion
Trump wants to get rid of the Dept of Education. No pre-K childcare like Head Start which really helps children to start school with a lot of basic knowledge. It would reduce the amount of government funds going to schools.
Think again!
Amazing amount of great content coming from the Bulwark. Thanks Tim and team.
I am hooked on watching but it finally dawned I could clean and listen.😅
@@Bob01281961I figured that out months ago, my house is so clean.
@@Bob01281961I cook and listen!
If you think Trump is dangerous, we have seen nothing yet once Trump is gone and Vance really steps in.
Thinking of Vance becoming POTUS when Donnie chokes on a burger is hella scary.
@@DennieRiley I think Vance may have ruined his political career.
@@odalysdiaz5202 we can only hope! 🤞🏼
Only problem, nobody is backing Vance-- not even Trump! He barely is seen with or talks to him.
@@odalysdiaz5202 I sure hope so.
Tim thank you for all the real comments that you make in this podcast. Many times, you will say a curse word that is EXACTLY what I am thinking! I appreciate your candor and intelligence! The Bulwark is a great podcast.
If Trump, Vance, and Kennedy get in to office, the U.S. is going to tank.
If either one gets in, same results.
@@sticklerforchange yup, check your 401k now, check the stock market now and take note, because that and more will tank
There will be ten countries where there once was one.
And they'll blame it on Biden - Harris
@@lisas946 yes they will, absent of accountability and any sort of plan, that's the MAGAtt party
Love Tom Nichols, his insight is always entertaining and informative. He had great chemistry with Charlie and now Tim
The Fact that Trump went with the dog and cat spiel at the debate demonstrates just what a child he is and how absolutely UNqualified he is to run for any office in our country
JD Vance being childlike is so true. When I heard him down play a bomb threat because there were no bombs, I thought he was disingenuous or stupid. The problem with bomb threats is that they scare people and disrupt school and business and waste resources trying to verify the threats.
"Childish" is th word wanted here. Childlike has a connotation of the good parts of having, say, childlike wonder. Childish is the term for destructive aspects.
Evil
This moral panic is so extreme that even Geraldo has opted out!
He wants to jail everyone who's has spoken the truth about him??? And actually murder his opponents????? He is his own enemy
Please have Mr Nichols on more often. He's so smart and snarky.
We don't want Trump dead, we want him jailed without access to the internet.
And never hear his voice or see his face again!!
YES!!!!
Yes, please!😊
@@JoyceMathews-g6cAnd lose his voice permanently 😮😂😂😂
AND we want him jailed as the result of a legitimate indictment, trial, conviction and sentencing…and to live out a very long life, in safety, incarcerated with no internet access!
I just can't see how some of us Black 🖤 people is supporting trump and shady Vance.
Look Haitians is black 🖤 people too!!!!!
Thank you! Moral character, honor & conduct matter in our elected leaders. Proud conservative Christian, Texan and patriot putting Country over an unhinged Republican party - voting ALL BLUE. ✝️🇺🇸🧢🧢🧢
We will not bear good fruit in our country with a convicted felon.
Country over party! 🇺🇸
Every time. Thank you.
welcome we appreciate you and your vote. were the blue team. thank you 👋😄😈👊👊👊🐁🐀🐷🐈⬛🐈⬛🐶🐶🐶🗳️🗳️💙💙🦋🦋🦋🦋👋
Ty
The guy who hangs behind the bully is his "toady". You're welcome. 😂
Yup pure Toady Vance is spot on.
Toady Vance has a nice ring to it
Christmas story!! 😂😂
@@Dalvecc Grover Dill, to be specific 😃
Very entertaining and informative. 👌😁
Thanks Tim. I really enjoy your show! Love you Tom Nicholas! 💙💙
Arrested development seems to be front and center with Vance and Trump. In my area I’m much more concerned with coyotes and cougars than racist tropes. Vote Blue 🌊
Great analogy…
good comparison
That was a great conversation. You’re both Champions. Cheers, Fellas.
TERRIFIC episode! Tim, you're always "on point" but an outstanding guest like Tom Nichols guarantees an especially noteworthy outcome. I ALWAYS learn a lot from really smart guys like the two of you. Therefore, I want to thank you & The Bulwark & Pod Save America for this ongoing, badly needed enlightenment. 💙🎉
The MAGA republicans have been absolutely getting away with it! There needs to be a greater push back from real Republicans
Says alot about the repubs, doesn't it? They are all sycophants and very weak men...all of them, apparently.
The Republican Party is the party of Trump. Republican party is no longer a viable political party.
What JD Vance is doing is similar to an abusive husband who tells his wife she needs to stop talking to her family and friends that they are no good for what ever reasons they can. It is isolating them from everyone and setting themselves up as the only voice they should listen too.
It’s called gaslighting. Abusive husbands number one trick.. Walz has to be prepared for him to gaslight viewers cause Vance is getting better with practice.
I agree Vance is almost worse because he is knowingly lying and spreading evil
He is worse. Trump is piss poor and mentally ill, but vance is evil. Trump is just a little boy wanting daddy's approval. Vance is MUCH worse. People say he is a hanger on. NAW...he wants to take all of that power and abuse it. He would destroy trump in a heartbeat if it made him king of the hill.
So is trump. I don't see an actual difference.
No Trump is smart enough to play dumb,which makes Trump more dangerous. Wait if god forbid he gets back into office then we will truly see the real evil he is. Anyway voting blue is what we must do now to make sure that doesn't happen again never or anyone like him .the whole 💙 👍 💙 👍 💙 👍 world 🌎 💙 👍 👌 is 🌎 👍 💙 👌 🔥 💯 🌎 👍 💙 watching 🌎 💙 👍 👌 👀 😀 🌎 💙 and hoping 🌎 💙 👍 👌 😀 😳 that 🌎 👍 🔥 👌 💯 Americans choose democracy in the next elections 👍 🌎 💙 👀 😳
what the hell do you think Trump has been doing?
"Ozempic-y" is probably the nicest thing anybody has ever said about Sarah Sanders.
Sarah should appreciate Bernie Sanders trying to cut the price of Ozempic and Wegovy.
I saw her at that Trump rally and my first thought was Ozempic because I know good and well she hasn't worked to take off the extra weight.
@@odalysdiaz5202 so ungrateful
that is exactly what i thought too
She needs to up her dose.
Disillusioned Trump supporters are far more likely to lash out at Trump than his critics. His critics have critiqued him for years without violence.
Trump has promised a "bloodbath" if he loses the election. His MAGA followers want a civil war if Trump loses. These people apparently aren't listening to what Trump is saying. They don't remember that Trump said he loved the uneducated. That says that he thinks that these people are stupid
Loved the Exorcist quote 😆 why you do this to me Dimi? Anyway...former Independant, now registered Democrat since 2016 and I have really been enjoying the Bulwark lately. Thanks!
I'm convinced Clarence Thomas' (alleged) pubic hair comment came from The Exorcist. Go to the party scene at Chris McNeil's house, and pay attention to what Burke Dennings says.
JAMES
Cowards always manage to convince themselves that everybody else is as cowardly as they are.
So true. These people are bullies in a school yard. How can they run a big country like US. We are all in big trouble!!
They won't run it. The MAGA Party will ruin it.
I grew up in small towns where some people would believe almost anything they were told.
The VP debate will be must-watch.
Can’t wait!
He'll say " now kamala, kamala, listen to me kamala..."
I am popcorn ready. 🍿🍿📜
I just write it on my calendar. Won't miss a word. Coach is gonna school that little bully boy!
He’ll show up with a jar of McCormick curry and say see see I’m not racist. I’ve sniffed curry for a long time 😮
It’s so annoying this Trump talking point can’t imagine this man running as a President of USA. He is not qualified even in the Third world country. Vote Blue America. So Trump will go to jail.
From Australia
My response to Vance’s accusation that your side tried to kill Trump twice would have been
The two assassins were republicans and it was not a democrat because they have better aim.
😂😂😂
YES....the reporters need to tell the freaking truth. Get down and dirty with it. Enough of this crap already.
The 2nd guy didn't even fire a weapon. Right now, Trump has cause more deaths than attempts have been made on his life💯
😅😅😅😅😅😅
Can we get a political ad with Miss Sassy calling jd a liar?
Tim, I've literally listened to the first few minutes of this Bulwark segment at least six times. Your deadpan delivery of the cat's name pretty much slayed me. Of course I watched the whole segment...excellent discussion as always.
Children are innocent. JD Vance is an educated opportunist.
?
Educated. Not very smart.
Vance wants you to stop talking about the disastrous debate-mission accomplished
Love the Bulwark, you are so interesting to listen to, thanks so much.
JD Vance, Trump, Matt Gaetz, MTG, et al, they're Kidults.
You’re being way too nice. Can’t look at any one of them without feeling nauseous 🤢
Don’t disparage kids that way.