10 Reasons WWE's Best Era Is Secretly Its WORST Era
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
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Ultimately, you can highlight the worst of any era and claim that period was really terrible. Nothing can be perfect from top to bottom. There was a lot of crap in the Attitude Era but the high-spots overshadowed the weak moments.
And ultimately this is how anything is judged once it's over. As you stated nothing is ever actually perfect. When its over, its about did the good outweigh the bad. How good was the good stuff. The peaks of the Attitude were incredible. They took wrestling to heights unforeseen prior to or after it. And ruthless aggression era was also great. So that's saying a lot.
Take the “Golden Era” and just show clips of Piper’s comments to Mr. T.
The fact that the Attitude Era solidified WWE's monopoly on wrestling in the United States automatically dispels your claim that it was the worst era. The worst era comes down to around the mid 2010s all the way until Vince left, or the New Generation era.
Mid 2010s-present is the worst
The best thing about the Monday Night War is that you can keep switching between Raw & Nitro to keep your interest at a high level. The Cruiserweights of WCW in particular had very entertaining matches. And while the Hardcore division in the WWF leaned more on comedy, their bouts were still generally fun to watch. Hence, the viewership decline during the Ruthless Aggression Era despite the controversial content still being present as well as having a stacked roster (the Smackdown Six really outclassed Raw's stars).
None of these are legitimate reasons because you're applying modern over-sensitivity to a product which is twenty five years old. It was a different time.
Why? Why are you Britts so offended by everything? Doesn’t that get exhausting, every day, finding something new to be offended about? That’s got to be emotionally draining. Try not doing it for a week and see how you feel. This is why you lost the revolutionary war. Good grief grow a set.
The era where WWE had high ratings and cultural relevance. Yeah, it's still the best Era and I say that as someone who prefers the Ruthless Aggression Era.
Yall are just too sensitive
i'd not even say that. just retro-active morality. not sure that's a phrase but it's now. but i'm not upset about an era of wrestling being i was born but i'm a sensitive person. plus the WWE even today is shady given they do shows in a country which gives gay people the prank sentencing for being gay if you get my drift
@NarutoUzumakiofficial things were different back then like wwf wasn't the only show on TV pushing the limits hell most of the movie channels had soft core porn after 10pm we just grew up a lot faster than yall did today and that's fine but you can't judge a show from back then with today's standards that's all
1990-1997 were by far my favorite WWF years. Montreal Screwjob ended my happiness for the product for at least a few years.
Those were the lamest years (well 1990-1992 aside). The real Golden Era was the 80s.
Like it or not, The Attitude Era was so dialed in to the rebellious "F-You" late 1990's culture and it did reflect the mentality of late 90's young boys that this was also the era of Howard Stern and Beavis and Butthead, Gangsta Rap etc. The extra Smut was just extra seasoning that was needed to erase the Hokey Hulk Hogan 1980's
Unlike today's little whiny bitches with their "mental health", etc
Right. What I've come to realize is, Vince McMahon was never some creative genius by any stretch...the Attitude Era was really just WWF catching lightning in a bottle. Vince is basically an emotionally stunted man-child (as is Vince Russo), so his tastes and sensibilities just happened to line up perfectly with the way pop culture was heavily centered around the interests of horny teenage boys and young men in the late 90's through the early aughts. I think this was also a factor in the big, gradual drop-off of fans as time went on. Vince just tried to do the same stuff but it wasn't reflecting the times.
@@tp2005well he did alright for himself with a phenomenally successful product.
and I hated every moment of it. I hated late 90s culture, I hated Limp Bizkit, I hated hip hop, I hated raunchy entertainment. I was miserable during that time because I was bullied due to that late 90s mentality boys had. The worst part is everyone thought it was so "rebelious" but it wasn't, instead it was everyone acting like assholes. I also missed the Hogan era during that time.
@@ecogrecoWord. Acting juvenile and inmature doesn't equal being "rebellious".
What Culture needs to keep the Attitude Era out its mouth!
They claim to hate it so much yet won't shut up about it 🤦♂️
the whole "Vince is a creep" angle aged very poorly
Life imitates art?
It never aged at all, he always was a creep and always will be. Then. Now. Forever
@@Midragor he’s not a crepe it’s all bullshit
Dawn Marie once said that a backstage segment where Vince propositioned her was unplanned, and he was coming onto her for real, even though the cameras were rolling.
She also says that she got fired from WWE for trying to make a complaint about Vince's behaviour.
@@chadnickelson5928 He's not a French Pancake? Well damn...
#8 - "Came from the brain of Vince Russo". Goes on to name 3 out of 4 storylines that happened after he left.
Some elements of past ENTERTAINMENT are not meant to be judged by a modern eye, but enjoyed and appreciated with an open and accepting mind.
I man it's not as if it wasn't problematic at the time. That's why it was called the attitude era.
Having watched the Attitude Era as it happened.....it wasn't anywhere near as perfect as people claim it was. There was a lot of greatness but there was a LOT of bad booking, dumb angles and terrible matches.
I went back and watched most of the episodes several years back before YT got so copyright heavy. I was struck by how ridiculously boring most of the shows were. The lower and mid cards were so sloppily and lazily booked. It just so happened that the upper card and main event scenes tended to be good enough to carry the rest of the show.
@@tp2005 I totally agree. Those of us who watched it live thought it was amazing at the time but it really wasn't. Now, people who've only seen highlight reels claim it was the best era ever.
Now we have lame stuff today like women wrestling and corny judgement day. Ratings down the toilet and if you tell people you watch that crap you’ll get laughed at.
@@masterkillahx 😂 😂 😂
@@InfectiousGroovePodcastsmark
Ministry Taker is way cooler than Biker Taker.
When you put it that way, yeah. Biker Taker sucks.
We romanticize the past. The Attitude era is awesome if you only focus on the great stuff and ignore the lame stuff. And there was in fact a lot of cringey, unfunny, and boring moments.
Naw, it was pretty much all awesome. It’s definitely a you had to be there thing though.
I'm one of the first to acknowledge the many shortcomings of the Attitude Era, but I still think it was the best Era. You can still be a fan and admit flaws in the product. The two aren't mutually exclusive if you aren't clannish and immature.
Exactly I'm glad someone finally gets it
@@SkunkApe407exactly
It was something pretty special about those 3 or 4 years because wrestling was in the mainstream in pop culture. Everyone knew the name stonecold Steve Austin and later on The Rock
Vince McMahon and Vince Russo both hated the concept of professional wrestling.
I'm really surprised that when they had to drop the "WWF" name that McMahon didn't rename it the "World Entertainment Federation" or something.
I'm probably in the minority, but Ministry of Darkness era Undertaker is not only my favorite but the best version of the character. That was him at his scariest. And the storyline started off good, it's the WWE's fault for messing it up adding Vince and The Corporation.
They should have NEVER merged the Ministry and The Corporation. Undertaker was no longer the leader of this dark cabal of minions, The McMahons were. They should have had them continue to war with Vince's corporation instead of making one super group.
MOD Taker easily my favourite ever character
I always liked satanic undertaker...it was very Kevin Sullivan in the 8os
Ministry undertaker was what made me realise wrestling is fake as a kid. Supernatural stuff happening and young me was like "why isn't he in the news for doing these things?!" So yeah, not a fan, and started me on a lifetime of being a non-fan of undertaker.
I was more a fan of the Taker the year prior from 1996-1998 which is the Lord of Darkness.
Ministry Taker is awesome but because of the Corporate story it takes him down a few pegs for me
You know people talk about the attitude era being basically softcore porn, but I was watching the Chris Colt Dark Side of the Ring and there's a guy on there who pointed out that for gay men, wrestling has always been softcore porn. So it didn't come entirely out of nowhere.
The attitude era was the greatest wrestling era it did have some weird moments but it doesn't take away from how great it was
It was the best of times. It was the worst of times.
I feel like racism accusations for the Attitute Era are really REALLY overstated. I only really consider Goldust's and X-Pac's blackfaces as the incidences that really crossed the line. I don't even really consider the NOD faction as WWE being racist as it was their take on America's race relations, however uncomfortable it was for everyone. On the other hand in Ruthless Aggression, you got Triple H's openly racist promos on Booker T on the lead up to Wrestlemania 19, Vince McMahon saying N word in national TV. They also had their NOD style race baiting gimmicks like Theodore Long's Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson schtick back in 2003/2004. Or John Cena cutting a "all Mexican-Americans are illegal immigrants" promo on Eddie Guerrero once. And many others. But yeah, the Attitude Era is the only era in WWE that touched on uncomfortable racial stuff apparently.
Agree!
You can also add the too many titles changes, and I don't even mention the Hardcore Title.
Yeah but sadly that's what made the era so hot titles being changed because fans that time liked it but those same fans complain about short title Reigns literally shooting themselves in the foot
To say it was secretly the worst era is absolutely ridiculous.
I liked 99 spooky Taker. It gave way to his best entrance music too
also remember they did a lot of show long stories, and if you weren't into it, it made it for another long show....
I don't remember thinking it was all 'peaches and cream', but it was definitely exciting and raw, without the incredibly corporate feel it has today. Criticizing the mid to lower card when they were getting hot reactions, something which has been sorely lacking for the decades since (including now). There was so much going on, lots of experimentation, it was like a variety show, there was obviously going to be some crap. It certainly wasn't perfect but I notice that many of the things that create buzz nowadays, they have qualities that mirror something from the Attitude Era. You could do this kind of countdown for every era (poor storylines, neglected wrestlers, things that don't work ect) but I think the reason the Attitude Era is still the best is that it simply had more. Especially that crucial thing called competition! One reason I find the modern era a turn off is that money rules WWE above all else now and it could not be more obvious. Perhaps I just prefer that grungy feel to wrestling, not this sparkly glittery modern style.
1 reason why people need to stop being butthurt over media made in the 90s... It wasn't made in the modern day stop trying to hold it up to the same standards... There ya go
Thats a pretty stupid comment….it was wrong then
@@Canruggerwas it really? Or are a small handful of people overly sensitive and we pander to them for fear of being canceled?
@@Canrugger
Actually, your comment is stupid.
@@CanruggerNo it was great don't be a Mary
@@TheMightyThor83 Cancelling isn't real.
Shawn Michaels was a GM of Raw? Surely you mean a commissioner of WWF?
Same thing
@@luisridez9219 How? A GM is in charge of a specific brand. A commissioner is an authority figure in charge of the promotion as a whole.
There was a point where my brother's first wife said it's not wrestling anymore, it's gang warfare. Then a couple months later they named a PPV Gang Warfare.
There was no "Gang Warfare" PPV.
The seemingly endless feud between NOD, DOA, and Los Boriquas (and to a lesser extent Truth Commission and DX) was widely referred to as the "gang wars" era, although I'm not sure if WWF ever called it that or it was simply an internet thing that really caught on.
@@jliller It was indeed called "Gang Warz", maybe using a "Z" instead of an "S" to look "edgy" or something.
@@miguelbayonrivera2467 "Gang Warz" would fits right in with the later spelling of the Dudley Boyz and Hardy Boyz.
Best I can tell there may have been a promo for the Boriquas-DOA match at Summerslam '97 that used the "gang wars" term, but I can't find a video of it online. The PPV itself didn't use that tagline or subtitle.
It was Gang Warz and it was a tagline to Survivor Series ‘97. But that’s just nitpicking, you’re absolutely right it was basically gang warfare for about a year.
@@dominojuggalo13 The Survivor Series '97 tagline was actually Gang RULZ. Which is a much worse use of the "hip Z" than Gang Warz"
What happened to this guy's speech patterns? He sounds he's doing a King Booker impression now.
Marks
I don't think they mentioned about Chyna's historic IC title win or Owen Hart's tragic fall and death
Vince used the "using your addiction as a storyline" crap ALL THE WAY IN 2020 with Jeff Hardy.
That Hawk angle was just pretty sad. I remember the titantron scene: Jim Ross simply said in a non apathetic way and there was no audience pop. I felt that even the crowd knew this was messed up and after that they killed the angle, leaving Droz all by himself so everytime he came out we all had that nasty taste of the titantron scene in our mouths, which I felt more bad for Droz, the guy wanted to have a great time, worked his hardest, and his life, as we wrestling fans know, everything changed for Droz.
The Attitude Era ruled, stuck an old Raw on other month and was glued to the screen, nothing like today's stuff
The Undertaker and his ministry of darkness was the best and if it is so creepy and spooky for you then why don't you just hide under your blanket.
TO BE FAIR...some of the women employed in the attitude weren't actual wrestlers, they were valets and managers. Being eye-candy was in their job description. Don't tell female wrestlers to be nothing but eye-candy and don't tell the eye-candy valets and managers to be wrestlers. Let them decide for themselves which they want to be. As for King, he was played a horn-dog heel commentator. Being a horn-dog is natural for people.
The fact is it had a stacked roster both WWE and WCW. The shows while flawed and weird shock factor angles it's still was he most exciting.
@JackFiore-zx3gh So Rock, Stone cold, all the DX members, Jericho, The Divas, Big Show, Edge, Mankind The Dudley's Undertaker aren't a stacked roster It's a Hall of Fame list level. WCW had a good group but you just insulted their top star 😆
Hilariously, Vince Russo is now working together with DLO for Rocky Mountain Pro Wrestling
I think the main problem with the attitude era was, that suspension of disbelief only works to a certain degree. While wrestling was always scripted, other eras still had somewhat believable storylines in the context of the setting and the lore of the gimmicks. But when attitude era heels murdered and raped their way through the roster on live TV without any legal consequences, when old ladies gave birth to hands, not to mention a certain necrophilia angle, it simply became ridiculous.
Today's product is %100 less entertaining. I'd rather be entertained and know it is fake, then suspend my disbelief for a 30 min Sami Zayn or Johnny Gargano match.
I was in grade school when the AA began. Went to high school in 99. For a teenager, there was no better TV. If you don't think young kids would love a revival of something similar you're nuts
Attitude era was more of entertainment than WrestleMania
Unpopular opinion, but I stopped watching wrestling during the Attitude Era and didn't get back into wrestling until 2007.
That’s fair as much as I love ruthless aggression 2002-2007 was very hit and miss especially raw..I’m glad I never saw the Katie vick stuff or Vince vs Stephanie.
Simon Miller with you're videos are you trying to get dislikes. This is another bad video from Whatculture Pro Wrestling or Whatculture WWE like Why The PG Era isn't the Problem for WWE and Why you shouldn't hate WWE and Why WWE is Screwing up John Cena SMH :(
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Trish did that in 2001, not 1998. She wasn’t even in the company yet. 🙄
You mean ideologues don't know what they're talking about because it's about the narrative and not the fact? Well, that's a shock if I ever saw one.
The Attitude era was awesome 🔥
Bunch of crap. I hate modern fans. The current era is trash. WAy more dumb crap nowadays than in the AE.
AE is the best era. Not even close
Yea I’m sure in 30 year you’ll have people saying the current era was actually horrible
Feels so odd having Simon Miller talking about the negatives of wrestling!
It was all somewhat reasonable until number 3, that is just the complaint of the current generation that can even be offended by the very air we breathe. The mainstream of the 90's and the 2000's is just too good for people like you, which is funny becaue y'all grew up with it, and somehow, y'all grew up into being the very thing y'all were making fun of, how are you not embarassed? And no, none of you became better people or became aware of social problems, you all just decided to not know how to differenciate between humor and entertainment, and real discrimination. Boy some of the older times are just too good for you people. And oh, if you're gonna call me old man, I'm 21 btw, and I'm not exactly a fan of conservative values either (and pretty much the 90's and the 2000's were damn anti conservative)
They didn't "fiddle with" the mania 2000 main event. The rock absolutely screwed up in the royal rumble. 100% his fault that we got a McMahon in every corner. Simon you used to be alright. Now you're just kind of annoying. The attitude era absolutely WAS good and entertaining. Take off your recency bias glasses and stop pretending to be woke. You loved it too.
I like the ruthless aggression Era and though 2002 till 2005 was best myself
Definitely. Ruthless Aggression was awesome.
Yes man that is my favorite era and also I loved the early Cena pg era
Too much complaining. It's why everything sucks now. Overly sensitive society
wCw and ECW didn't treat their wrestlers any better either at the time... Bret Hart, Sabu and Scott Hall were testimate to that. Wrestling just treated their wrestlers awfully in general and only really looked at it properly because of the Benoit tragedy.
The only thing I didn't like about the attitude era was their lame attempt at the cruiserweight division. Taka, Sasuke and all them were never going to compete with what WCW had going on.
Different Times, Different Time... Say what you may with all the PC-wOKE culture.. those were STILL THE GOOD OLD DAYS. No matter what.
And honestly, if the sole aim to antagonise and find "flaws" in something or someone, there is no end.. Nothing is Perfect. Just LET IT BE...
The Attitude Era made the WWF/WWE a BILLION dollar corporation, as well as a publicly traded one. It was also the Era that destroyed WCW, and allowed Vince McMachon to buy it. The WWE still cannot draw as much as it did in the Attitude Era. Ya know what? Sex sells, as did the violence and swearing. It’s not the wrestling world’s fault that this is a weak generation full of whiners. Hell, there is still no blood in WWE cage matches, making the cage pointless. At least AEW has that, plus some sex appeal, and swearing. I tried watching WWE a few times, it’s unwatchable to me. The women look like men, and the one who doesn’t, they call a man? I guess the WWE hates women and the veteran males that broke their bodies and died young for that company by calling her that. The facts are Becky Lynch hasn’t drawn a dime. Now Trish Stratus, Sable, Sunny, Tori Wilson, Stacey Keebler Etc did. If you experienced the Attitude Era first hand, you’d know how special it was. It was ECW on steroids(I mean on a bigger scale). It was drawing bigger numbers than all sports. But now they cannot draw numbers that large. All the WWE “marks” may think that it does well, but the facts are it hasn’t come even close to drawing numbers that the Attitude Era drew. And AEW is 100x’s better than WWE on a wrestling level. At least Tony Khan respects the sport of it. I was in it as well way back when, and actually have a connection with WWF in around 2001. I was also to do four dark matches and a spot with Scott Steiner where he attacks “fans” at ringside. But I got seriously hurt, it ruined my short career in it unfortunately. I’m trying to get my nephew into it because I still have friends in the business. So I know WWE isn’t doing as great as these “marks” think they are. There is still a black cloud over that company.
I love Simon but this list is COMPLETE BULLSHIT.
It's so easy to sit here 26 years later, stand on a soapbox, wag fingers and say, "This was wrong!" "This was not right!" "This was not proper!" "WWE/WWF should have known better!" when the truth of the matter is WE ALL WATCHED AND ENJOYED what we were seeing. The nature of what the content was makes no difference, because as wrestling/sport entertainment fans, we were all part of the culture at the time. If the attitude era was truly as destructive, vile and abhorrent as its being described in this video, it would have not made the headway with the popularity that it had to even bring forth the ruthless aggression and the much loved (by WhatCulture Wrestling) PG era of WWE. This virtue signaling, PC hypocrisy makes me sick to my stomach.
Was the ATTITUDE ERA perfect? No.
Was a lot of it garbage? Absolutely, but,
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The show was geared towards young men, and those were the people who enjoyed it. That doesn't mean it wasn't inappropriate at the time or uncomfortable to watch for anyone who wasn't a 10-20 year old boy. That much is implied in the name. I loved the the crazy storylines, but did it feel nice to see women not just treated like sex objects but degraded week after week? No.
To expand on this.... Even the upper card match quality could very quite a lot. I think part of this is that with Michaels hurt, Bret gone, Austin often wrestling injured, Rock not meant to be super serious, HHH a little raw (some pun intended), etc. there were no true in ring technicians that could pull that 5 star match off until Angle starts to get big.
Benoit arriving also helped.
@@camerondalton1495In the early 2000s we got Angle, Jericho, Benoit, the Guerreros, Rey Mysterio, Edge and Christian, the Hardys and the Dudley Boyz giving us great match after great match, and add to that, the return of Shawn Michaels.
Yeah getting the Radicalz definitely helped too. In terms of in ring action 1997 was great, 1998 was great before WrestleMania horrible after it 1999 was horrible. Then 2000/2001 were great again. I'm watching through the attitude era again on peacock and am just about to get out of the dark ages but if I watch one more HHH vs Test fight I will scream lol
What are you talking about
@@partsunknown1679 He's saying that at the time the wrestling from the main event guys during the Attitude Era namely 1998-1999 was inconsistent. Many of the top guys like HHH and Rock hadn't yet found their groove as they would in 2000. You could argue it didn't get better and more consistent until guys like Benoit, Angle, and Jericho were given focus.
This era did so much for wwe and i am glad it happened but there's a reason you hear about genuinely great main event card but barely hear about the mid card
You didn't hear about Kane, Mankind, Angle, Jericho, Benoit, Guerrero, Edge, Christian, Matt Hardy, Jeff Hardy, Dudley Boyz, Rikishi, Big Show, New Age Outlaws, X-Pac, Chyna, Bradshaw, Farooq, Owen, Shamrock? You calling that midcard scene weak? More than half of the names I mentioned there were main eventers at some point in their careers. And that's a midcard scene you say no one heard of? Lmao.
You didn't hear about Kane, Mankind, Angle, Jericho, Benoit, Guerrero, Edge, Christian, Matt Hardy, Jeff Hardy, Dudley Boyz, Rikishi, Big Show, New Age Outlaws, X-Pac, Chyna, Bradshaw, Farooq, Owen, Shamrock? You calling that midcard scene weak? More than half of the names I mentioned there were main eventers at some point in their careers. And that's a midcard scene you say no one heard of? Lmao.
What i mean basically is that a lot of the mod card storylines were just Vince Russo garbage like the same Raw that Mick Foley won the wwf title Terri Runnels had a storyline miscarriage
Attitude Era did have some sucky features but so did every era of WWE. The only difference is that the negative parts at this time are pretty extreme at times. I, however, think that it came from the times unfortunately and also who was writing the material. Not to mention, they were doing anything to shock people into not watching WCW. That said the racism and sexism is regrettable, and probably a Russo and McMahon product.
WhatCulture is a bunch of whiny guys trying to be politically correct. All while they clamored over Rock return that brought back Attitude Era vibes. Plus it brought in many fans that loved that type of edgy story telling
Noticing a lot of contradictions on their part as of late...
They'll say one thing, then in the next video say the exact opposite without any self awareness. Whatever gets clicks I suppose...
This era is way better than now. Every storyline that's playing out in this era is one that's already been done in the past
Raven gets Crucified in ECW: "OH DEAR GOD THAT IS WAAAAY OVER THE LINE!!"
SCSA gets Crucified in WWE: "WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYEEEAH!!"
Attitude Era was heads and shoulders better than what is put out today. Wrestling matches are secondary to good storylines. If it was all about the wrestling then AEW would be doing great in the ratings. It’s because they don’t tell any compelling stories that the ratings are in the toilet. Today’s wrestling has no interesting characters or stories. The bloodline was the last good story and it is all but over now. Attitude Era had way more compelling stories
Bloodline a good story 😂 even they had to put Sami Zayn into that rubbish to make expectation in audience
You need both good storyline and good matches.
I don't want to watch 40 minute promos in the ring.
FACTS
Facts
Speak for yourself. This era was awesome and still better than today’s wrestling.
The bad wrestling angles always make me laugh...unintentional comedy! Every era has it's fair share.
Like today's era is any better. We are living in the worst times since 2013 WWE. Its never improved you shill.
It’ll always be the best in my opinion
This video desperately tries to put over the current era of wrestling while dragging down a previous one
I’m genuinely surprised mick foley is still so coherent today considering how many times I’ve seen him get hit in the head
What about "Stone Cold" Steve Austin dominating the Attitude Era, while carrying a neck injury, which affected his health.
Woah, the same shit you see on TV and movies was on TV at the time! WOAH! AND IN THE 90s WOAH!
As someone who watched both WWF & WCW, it's a shame during the mid/late 90's that we couldn't combine the 2 to make a great show! WCW almost NEVER had a main event that wasn't horrible. Luckily, however, the under-card most of the time was good.
The WWF was the exact opposite! The matches before the main event were most of time just there to fill the time until we got to the main event. That said, the main event was great! We got a decent amount of time for the match, unlike the MANY sub 5 minute WCW counterparts. And even if it was just to build up to the next show, you rarely felt cheated.
Same could be said for any era. Mark this era down and add 30 years or more to what is happening now and look back on it and tell me it has aged well. The next generation has their own views and options to your own. Most would day that the attitude era what the best era, are they wrong to have that view? Videos like there are just options and not fact. Better yet videos like this are just filler for channels that have nothing to say anymore.
still better than EVERYTHING post-invasion angle
It's like russo was hired to make all VKM's sick fantasies into storyline. Oh, he did
The attitude era, while not always great, was easily the best era in WWF.
PS.. why the hell are you trying to sound like Tom Hardy?
This makes me glad the two Vinces are no longer on the business
People view things with rose colored glasses, sometimes, and nostalgia is a liar. This isn’t a case of that. The attitude era was amazing and we all loved it at the time. Looking back, it was still awesome. Over the course of over 4 years, are there going to be some dud moments? Of course. What do you expect?
Everyone’s saying the attitude era was basically over rated and had crap moments a plenty but that’s wrestling! Attitude era was in will always be the best for the wwe anyway
Every era has its bad moments and that doesn’t take away from any. Every era also has great moments within even when nostalgia blind people pretend they don’t. All around just enjoy WWE ya know?
agreed
how about that there was so many promos and not many matches every week until the PPV and then there again it was only certain matches that got put onto the card
I've said for years that most of the angles in the Attitude Era aged like a glass of milk sitting on asphalt, in the middle of Death Valley, at high noon, in the middle of summer. I have yet to be shown how I'm wrong.
Nobody would say that you're wrong, but that's why it was good, it was in touch with the culture of the time, which was much grittier than now. Something that wrestling struggled with for 20 years after the era ended. That doesn't take away from how successful it was, and it is also a testament to guys like Austin and the Rock who were so good that the people forgot the stuff that was bad.
Every match for a PPV had actual stories and investment from the audience, unlike anything today where two people are thrown together or a battle royal is put on just to give people something to do for the show…🤨
@@josephmelendez8370 Nah. Russo was just a Trashy Tabloid Writer.
@@Tornado1994 you're right, he was. But that has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, the WWE continued being edgy long after he left and arguably got better. So I don't see what that has to do with what I said.
What the hell is wrong with you? If you have covered wrestling for more than a week you would have known everyone in the industry says the more fans the better your doing, if everyone likes something that makes it the best at what it is being made for, do not get the time line wrong, everything has to be in its time so if your saying "this era vs another era at the same time" you've lost the plot, also Steve Austin 97 would still beat all. that's like saying "this band is better than it sounds"
Attitude Era is not the worst era. If it weren't for the Attitude Era WWE is nowhere near what it is today. Also WCW and maybe to a lesser extent ECW don't die if the Attitude Era failed 🤷♂️.
If wwe didn't get Attitude there would only be WCW/Ecw. 4:20
No one’s arguing that it didn’t pave the way for what we have now, we’re saying that a lot of the stuff they put out was definitely a reflection of its place in time socially and that it wasn’t good then just as it isn’t good now.
But a lot of the stuff now is kind of boring and lacks bite.
Generational indifference will always make it difficult for people to agree on. For some it was the best living in the times for others they see it as crime. I say each ship must sail it's own story.
Be Excellent 2 each other and Party on.
It was successful, but most of what was on Raw and Smackdown sucked tbh. The great stuff is few and far between.
As far as actual wrestling goes the whole era for the most part sucked where the best matches tended to be the younger guys trying to prove themselves anything higher up on the card was more story driven. Nothing has changed now though and anyone trying to convince others that all of these hour long 6+ star match that Dave Meltzer rates will get more casual people watching obviously don't realise it would have happened already if it was going to. Like it or not the actual wrestling side of it isn't what has attracted the largest audiences and it won't suddenly change the mind of the general public.
Yes the Attitude era and the Monday Night War in general was overall awful in terms of wrestling for the most part and some ofnthe things done were questionable. But it was very much the culture at the time to take things to the extreme and it kept people talking and coming back no different to a soap opera with it's over the top stories and situations.
To be honest, the character make up for it. These long matches today don't always hit they way they should.
I would happily watch a Kurt Angle v Chris Benoit match as much as anything in the Attitude Era.
I've been saying this for a while... WWF/E's two biggest eras were very little to do with 55-minute workrate fests and whatnot... they were largely based around characters, storylines, segments, presentation, and then wrestling in that order.
@@thelegendarydowntowntonybr2598 So you prefer 50-minute in ring promos.
If you don't care about entertaining wrestling matches then go follow something else.
I'm not interested in people rabbiting on for 40 minutes.
@@thelegendarydowntowntonybr2598 Pretty much.
1:15 Rob Thomas from Matchbox 20
Shar-mail? Was that a Booker T impression? Like DX and The Nation, eh Simon?
Just gonna throw this out here. Trish barking like a dog wasn’t in that 90s at all that was late 2000s even 2001 so when you tried to call out a random episode in 98 or even in the year in general. Trish barking like a dog isn’t part of it. I get what your trying to say that some episodes are fucking nuts but yeah I’m surprised no one else said anything
Point 2 and 3 shouldn't be here. All of that was great
The only part I agree with you on the last segment of this episode is that Jerry was a horrible announcer.
Every era has it's own pros and cons however, because this era focused on storylines and pushing the boundaries and characters it is simply untouchable,this current era could do better if done right
Attitude was the best. Period
So I watched the attitude era as it happened as a kid and to this day it’s my favorite time of wrestling for how wild it was and the great characters that existed (i.e. undertaker, rock, Austin, triple h, new age outlaws, godfather, etc). I’ve gone back and rewatched it in its entirety about 2 or 3 times now and while I agree that some stuff was a little too far, I try to put myself back into that ignorant kid mentality and enjoy it as I did back then. I will always love the attitude era but yes, there was some stuff that went too far and other stuff that people say went too far that personally, I don’t think it did.
Simon is SAWFT
8:17 she didn't want to do irl right? She sued over this didn't she?
@whatculture 5:58 - we need more young simon at home!
WhatCulture virtue signalling again, and the comments here are equally embarrassing.
Funny how people get offended by DX impersonating the Nation yet The Godfather said him and the rest of the Nation found it hilarious and couldn't stop laughing backstage.
Well everyone is not on the joke, As black it did bother, me a bit.
Everyone is soft these days the attitude era was prime