Best BMW M6 Exhaust?! V10 E63 M car gets FMU custom system with insane results!
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I usually hate the way these s85 sound when people modify the exhaust but this one actually sounds great. Never heard one like it.
Without X pipe it has that bad trumpet-like sound. X pipe makes the tone waay better and more exotic👌
They just sound like an average Chevy i5 with exhaust to me, I’m hoping this video changes my opinion. *edit* well I watched it and meh, still not impressed. Even a ford triton v10 can scream with headers and an x pipe.
Are you mental😂 there’s not a single American v10 sounds better than even a stock s85🤣🤣. And especially an i5.. vag’s i5 rs engine sounds wicked as i5’s go , but nowhere near as good as a v10s85. Go look what this engine was basically based off of! Obviously it’s not the same engine but it absolutely does have genuine f1 cred.
That's actually crazy how much better it sounds compared to the resonator/cat delete
an X pipe is always the way to go with these engines. Makes it sound soo much better.
yeah, that resonator/cat delete sounded like ass.
Would be nice to have the two sound clips next to each other. I gave up looking for the original sound. But yeah can hear it sounds better
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Damn, bro really just made me watch an 18 minute and 38 second ad. I’m not even mad!😂
I've never heard of anybody being disappointed by the S85 exhaust note.
The S85 is one of the worst sounding engines of all time, definitely the worst sounding V10. Even the Ford Triton V10 sounds better
@@redaggron1Oh alright, I hear you. So how do you tell an engine sounds bad? Do you go off your own personal taste or is there a science to it? I just wonder how you came to such a strong conclusion about it.
Compare to any other v10@@bhuuthesecond
@@irixzu7295 And it is still your own taste in sounds
This guy presents an S85 as stock that sounds shit, then shows us the smaller mid pipes and highlights the lack of resonators. It's not stock, and the pre-work modifications have made it sound garbage. A real stock S85 sounds great, just a little quiet.
17:20 That sounds AMAZING!
When he lets off a little you could hear the car's disappointment that there wasn't more road to eat
"Sound is subjective. But... most people can tell the difference between music & noise." 👍🏼 💯
bro called people cheap because they don't want custom exhaust Systems that sound great to him. its a niche Market and people aren't investing in these older cars like that. Admittedly, that M6 does sound great. You guys did your thing.
To be fair, the original cat/resonator delete on that M6 was pretty ghetto. Welds looked like day 1 of welding school and the pipes were too small. Looked cheap to me.
That’s genuinely impressive. I’ve got a challenge for you-how about tackling a mainstream, commonly modified yet bad sounding engine; the N20. It’s not exactly known for its exhaust note, but I’m curious to see what you could do with it.
The biggest restriction in the S85 is the top end of the motor. The factory plenums are too small and are really thick, muting the ITBs. Most people looked to the exhaust, and that's how so many of these cars ended up with hacked up systems. One of these days I'd love to hear an S85 car with both the full FMU treatment AND a full CSL spec induction system from Infinity Design. That would be peak E60 M5.
I think FMU knows what the next motor request will be...riddled with alibaba titanium fakes and endless setups, the infamous S65 on the E9X!!!!
Agreed, would love to see this! It's crazy how much the exhaust makes a difference on the s65
Literaly all s85s sounds great to me 😂
On the uneven firing v10 you need to make unequal length exhaust like the secret weapon exhaust in brazil and it makes it sound like an f1 and more even sounding because they make one pipe longer before it reaches the x pipe and that fixes the uneven sound of the firing order. You should look into it there's also a calculation you can do to delay the exhaust pulse on one bank by making it longer and the calculation will tell you how much longer it needs to be than the other one to reach an even 72 degrees in between each fire
@@Alfonso-mh1np there’s a great David Vizard video on just this topic
@inaNis_ can you send it to me please or at least the video title
It will always be alternating between 90° and 54° and “odd firing” is commonly misunderstood on V10s. An odd firing V10 still alternates between each bank without firing twice on each bank. So an “uneven” firing order technically still is “even” firing when talking about banks- but only on V10s. On a V8 crankshaft you must have a flat plane to even fire.
As far as the exhaust you’re talking about, adding a section of length to one side of the bank will not make it 72° of firing order. It still fires the same in the engine. All you’re doing with that is shifting ALL exhaust pulses on that bank an EQUAL amount of phasing. Which means it will affectively not change anything too much. Sure you might be able to phase one cylinder on that bank to sound like a 72° firing from the other bank, but the next one can’t be 72° because you’re now at the 90 or 54 angle on the other bank.
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@@damascus-ut1ee What he meant is by making certain pipes longer and shorter so they all reach the collector at the same time. You can think of it as putting unequal length headers on an unequal firing order to make the sound come out sounding like it was equal length.
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It actually sounds SO much better it's insane
Thanks!
Sounds like an aftermarket Lamborghini V10 exhaust! Great work, Cody!
Absolutely nailed it. That sounds GORGEOUS.
I would absolutely love it if you made a video about crossover placement, and how it affects the acoustics of the exhaust note. You all do amazing work
Edit: You actually answered that question in this video when I watched the rest lol. Dude you're awesome
Yes finally a S85. Favourite M6 right there.
I like how u were able to minimize the raspiness and also gave it a deeper tone, morning startups will definitely rumble to the ground a little bit more than usual which will give the owner that grin everytime👍🏼 Great job !
Glad you liked it!!
I hope Cody is taking care of his eyes! He seems to be living behind that hood.
Sounds amazing all it’s missing is equal length headers and it will 100% have that f1 sound
I'd love to see what you could do for a e46 m3
Sitting in my garage, I look over at me E46 M3.... "Hell yeah, brother!!!"
Agreed. A great engine but it’s so often ruined with a poor exhaust.
Better not lose the rasp the s54 is known for. #savetherasp
Love the sound of this exhaust and perhaps its the best sounding and most refined exhaust you can buy for the s85, but nobody can reach the sound of THAT one white E46 M3 V10 drift car
edit: here's a clip of the car for everyone ruclips.net/video/6jcHsVPwCLw/видео.html
Thanks for the link! That sounds incredible!!
Strongly disagree
Meistershaft / headers / no cats is where it’s at
I’ve been in and around so many of these cars and the M5’s, they sound insane the louder they are and really makes the V10 scream
Y’all better get mega phones from fluid motors and make your engine 🎶 🎤🎙️
Damn that sounds clean AF !
Isn't that an F13 in the thumbnail tho lol
F06
@@tamaninesauc also not a V10 lol
That thing sounds insane man
Finally a BMW that sounds sooo good WOW. 😊
As the owner of a few S85 cars in my day, the only worthwhile exhaust mod for these cars is a muffler delete. No drone, perfect sound, no buzz or rasp, and 90lbs in weight saved. It basically sounds identical to the final result in this video. And for some reason, on the 2006/07 cars, they pop and bang. Here's a video of one in NYC ruclips.net/video/v3VlKYoMDOw/видео.html
Undeniable improvement. Surprisingly so. Love those s85 and now it does sound it's best
Thanks
That’s the best sounding M6 I’ve ever heard.
Thanks we think so too!
I stuck long tube headers on my m156 6.2 c63, no cats into the stock resonator and stock muffler, it was the best sounding car I’ve ever heard, zero and I mean zero drone and it was dead silent under 2.5k cruising off cam, yet above 3k it was mental easily 130db + loud, with added aggressive downshift added in my tune, it had the most amazing ear piercing snap, and amazing intake noise through the headers, as they where thin walled, amazing. Now I have an E63s with down pipes and valves fully opened sounds mega for a turbo smaller displacement motor not not quite that 6.2!
That was truly special.
Fiy there is guy making Z pipe instead of X pipe. Somethimg you might be interested in.
Still waiting to see your magic in a v6 ecoboost f150 exhaust
Even the best exhaust in the world can't make it sound like anything other than a V6. They just don't sound good.
@@ATStone I beg to differ. My 2.7l ecobeast sounds pretty good.
@@1FiftyOverlanda bit biased with the "ecobeast" lol. I just watched a bunch of different exhaust videos and they all sound like a boring, economy V6 or get nasty and raspy.
@@ATStone Take a look my lasted short I think my truck sounds great for 2.7l v6. Id say 325hp and 400lb/ft tq from a 2.7l engine that can be tuned to be substantially more qualifies as being a beast. Have you heard about the new factory tu e for the 3.0l ecoboost in Ranger Raptor and Bronco raptor?
@@ATStoneproblem with this take is there are great sounding v6s, ecoboosts in general just sound cheap
Sounds amazing, now makes me wanna see an exhaust for the e46 m3
Sounds GLORIOUS!! 👏🏻🗿
That is so much better. This is why I have never really like the v10 because of that rasp and always like the v8 noise better. Deeper and sounds so much better.
I like the way you admit to mistakes and leaned from it. You guys really know what you are taking about. Shame you so far away from the uk. I’m would definitely buy a system off you guys for my e30 v8 swap.
Nice! I remember KenL’s s85 FMU build from back in the day on m5board. Fast forward 15 years and I’m still running my s85, now with 197,000+ miles of track days, kid/dog hauling, road trips, with lots of maintenance.
Off the shelf doesn’t work for my needs. After much trial and trial and trial and errors, finally settled on a custom full titanium resonator, x-pipe, and exhaust. The weight savings over SS is worth it alone.
Still tweaking things with my fabricator as he thinks there is room for improvement.
Nonetheless, love that you’re giving the s85 owners some love. If I was not in SoCal, FMU would have my business.
Can you run down the maintenance on yours? I’m looking to buy one and want it to go further than that. It’s amazing you got it that high in mileage
That sound! What a beauty!
Wonderful job chaps! That's how these cars should have sounded from a factory
Unbelievable sound well done
Wowww that is amazing knowledge and perfect sounding exhaust for these cars.
I am definitely going to follow this setup on my E60 M5!
Amazing how it keeps the howling V10 sound with that deep bass rumble.
Can’t wait to see your magic on coyotes
Agreed, if anyone can tame the coyote rasp, it's OJ.
@@ATStone If he can fix it I'll start handing out FMU cards at car meets, lol
Now that the S85 is solved, can we work some magic on the S65 next:)
Calling you out, because this seems a bit bla bla bla.
I have had multiple different exhaust setups on my E60 M5, and they all sounded great (never heard anyone complain about the sound of an S85).
1. Stock system + Eissenmann Race mufflers: sounded clean, deep, little rasp and no drone
2. Stock cats + 2 straight pipes + no drone mufflers. Sounded extremely loud, full, little rasp. Almost like two five-cylinders next to each other. > sounded the most like your setup.
3. Stock cats + X-pipe + Valved no drone mufflers. This gave me the highest volume and pitch. Almost an F1-like sound. Loved it.
4. Stock system with a muffler delete: bang for the buck the best option. Stock sound but with more volume, rasp and no drone.
Bravo OJ, bravo! That sounds beautiful! Prior to your wizardry it sounded so cringey!
Damn, y’all really knocked this one out of the park! I also appreciate the b-roll of the stock exhaust in this one, I wish y’all would do more of that and more back to back comparisons in the edit!
2:36 this is exactly why the newer GTR engines sound the way they sound, Godzilla breathes very freely
Ask an enthusiast: For an immersive driving experience, would you rather drive a silent Model S Plaid (fast) or an S2000 with a full exhaust (objectively, slower than the Plaid)? I think most would go for the S2000. Speed isn’t always everything. Sound and engagement can do a lot more for the experience of operating a vehicle than speed alone. Thanks for the vid OJ
Watching all these exhaust videos from FMU… cannot wait to drop my car off for exhaust work on Tuesday!!!
There are a couple crazy videos on RUclips from 10-15 years ago of a couple guys in Brazil who cut the pipes off an E60 M5 and took the car up to 200mph - sounds glorious!
Quality of this video is outstanding
Sounds much better. Well done!
Takes out every negative element I’ve heard from these cars. Incredible!
I need my scat pack exhaust and my Monte Carlo ss exhaust done by you guys been watching legit street cars and the work you’ve done for him is phenomenal!
Wow I really wish I was in IL. I have a single turbo G82 M4 I want to refine the exhaust section and this shop is the one.
I like the cut of your Jib OJ.
Helluva a lot better than any BMW V10 I've heard. Still not awesome or as exotic sounding as you'd want a V10, but if you're working with stock valve timing events you can only do so much.
Definitely a very clean sound without rasp. Nice work, but would be cool if it was higher pitched
Incredible as always, OJ! May I ask the approximate power gains or have we no idea (as in not yet tested)? Thanks for the video, can’t wait for the next one. Cheers!
This is one of those cars that the heart really, REALLY wants but the brain knows exactly how ruinously expensive is if even a *small* thing goes wrong.
You need stepped equal length headers, the exhaust sound all comes from the sound waves and how you control them and stepped headers create more waves. Right now it just sounds like you’ve basically straight piped it, “refined?” It’s freaking absurdly loud. 😂
OJ's Symphony.... The HotWinds and BurntGas Section. Fart -can elimination. WellDone, Maestro.
Great video as always, great effort and design backed by great notes and noise level. Now please do one for E9X M3 with the S65 engine. Thank you
Sounds amazing
Watched with great interest having recently picked up a 6-speed M6 like this as my first BMW. I think you're right about the times changing and people realizing driving experience and uniqueness will increasingly beat out raw speed. Hence why I went with the 6-speed which is appreciably slower than the SMG (but way more reliable). I like the SMG too though people hate on it but it suites the car.
One of the few things I want to do to mine is exhaust and have been watching your channel. Really would like more videos of this system under normal load/in-car both cruising and full throttle. Also, that "stock" system is not stock at all as you mentioned I think the stock sound is pretty darn good just way too quiet/muted.
Maybe people were cheap historically but I haven't considered (nor even seen until this video) a single system below $2,500 new; more like $4k range. Personally I want something that raises the volume and tone but isn't TOO obnoxious or insane around town that I couldn't take my boss or wife in it. Whether that's valved or what I'm still researching but I would definitely be interested in a system like this.
Yeah, that's a lovely tone. Totally objective. Those who say sound is subjective are just looking for excuses to justify poor hearing. The same applies to aesthetics. Bad environments skew the senses. It's not people's fault. There just are empirical baselines for these things. Any tips for Honda K series? Most sound great with a turbo but n/a, they're abrasive.
no they don't. anything from honda that actually runs sounds like total shit. you can't try to counter sound is subjective in the same breath of anything from honda even sounding semi okay-turbo or not. the only tip for a honda k series is the same as any other honda engine. melt it
@@e.v.a.l.s My most memorable turbo k sound clip is from a hoonigan drag race. It was a high power thing with external wastegate and sounded great. Many moons ago I saw a 4g prelude with the H22 and it had a loopback muffler at the back. It really transformed the sound, making it much deeper and smoother. I was wondering if anything of the sort was tested on the k series. Also looking at fluid's use of megaphones and a step down to the rear mufflers on this...curious to see how they'd tackle a k exhaust. Then again, they've said it before and in this video too: biggest influence is valve/port design. Only so much you can fix with the exhaust.
@@papapetad no it didn't. it sounded like shit
@@e.v.a.l.s Any 4 cylinder sound you like?
@@papapetad yes, plenty. and none of them sound like a honda
Sounds great. Do more of these videos please. Making meh sounding cars sound awesome. Would love to see you fix up a v8 tt bmw sound. They can ve underwhelming sometimes
Sounds perfect! I want to see you guys do an n63tu, not an s63. The exhaust manifold difference makes big difference in sound I think. I just hacked off the muffler on mine and straight piped it axel back to stock tips with two 90°s on each side. I plan on doing an x pipe when I get time. I have a vid of my f15 x5 50i reving if you want to check it out.
The Sound Doctor did it gain!
Did you do your primary/header massage job too?
My car sounds awesome but has a bit of drone... got any suggestions?
It's a full 3" stainless system with resonators but it's got about 100 decibel drone at 22-2400 and again at 44-4800... I'm thinking X pipe and some different resonators.
Oh, it’s the same M6 model but with forcing cones and a blower.
It instantly reminds me of the W204 C63 with the current tips, sounds great too.
After seeing this I’m gonna do x pipe back again on my m5 f90.
So good. Now tackle that notorious s55 rasp next please!
Significantly better 🎉 its a different sounding car
All of your exhaust videos that i've seen so far are from twin bank engines and using X pipes.
How do you handle single bank engines such as the inline 6 RB, JZ, Barra etc.?
I can only imagine how good an RB would sound coming from this shop
@@jacobm2625 I personally have a Barra with the stock manifold which is a UEL log style setup followed by a simple 4" down pipe 3.5" catback into a twin 2.5" outlet muffler.
I'd be interested to see how adding or removing features of a very basic setup like this would improve it.
Amazing. Would love to see you guys develop a exhaust for the B58 engine using a megaphone.
I really do mean, this exhaust is way better than the einsnnman 😮😮
You cant beat The eisenmann sport exhaust on theese ones!!!
Please make a S55 sounds great!
It sounds correct now
Have you guys played around with longer chambers of interactions between both banks? Like a Y coming from the engine, to a single large tube, and then another Y out? I’ve heard this produce some really high pitched sounds in the few occasions I’ve heard it tried.
It has that S85 sound that WWii german war siren, but it doesn’t have the tinny or the rasp
I never bought pre built exhaust, nothing wrong with them. I spent so much testing different resonators and mufflers until i found the setup I like. Im sure it could sound better though.
That actually sounds great for a s85 i think most aftermarket options are way too shrill sound wise
Sounds incredible!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Thank you!
This guy is awesome
The m6 in the thumbnail is the v8…
That’s what it should sound like!! I’d be curious what you guys could do for the GR Corolla’s.
This should have way more views. I'm only subscribed to, I think, 4 channels, and I'm just now seeing this 7 hours later.... weird!
I would love to see what yall would do to make the BMW N54 sound amazing.
Got a question about the x pipe setup. On this model, you have two short bends from the header to the x pipe. The headers look like they're merging at 45deg, is there a reason why you didn't place the x pipe directly off of the headers?
This exhaust sounds amazing, great work done by your whole team.
I would love to see you guys do a custom exhaust for a diesel truck
Alright, fella.. Now it time to get you a supercharged 5.0 jaguar to play with. Xf or xj or f type or f pace or any of the array of land rovers with that same engine... They sound amazing even factory, so you could change the game!
Sounds really good use to hate sound of these things
I’ve been waiting on this!!!!!
My fi Exhaust ruclips.net/user/shorts_8NBlpP9r18?si=AIorTKYpUn05Rnx1
hi ! oj ahhhh so close but no cigar . you got the numbers wrong ....not s85.....s58 . the s 58 is going to be the goat of bmw engines . that v 10 engine really sounds nice . great work
I like it! You all done a V12 bi turbo Benz
Please do a C8 Stingray 6.2L build.
It would be amazing if you guys could figure something out the for S55
id really love to see what can you do with a 2018 mustang gt, you guys are doing something not many shops do which is actually putting thought into what you do, keep it up.
Hit us up all@fluidmotorunion.com we have a great set up for that