Rating the Edge of the Earth cards 1 year later! (Arkham Horror: The Card Game)
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
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At the request of chat, I am revisiting all the Edge of the Earth cards 1 year later. We don't have our preliminary ratings for each of these cards like I have for The Scarlet Keys, but this was still a fun video nonetheless! I hope you enjoy it.
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Awesome video. Please consider doing the other cycles!!! There is a unmet need in youtubeland for these kind of videos - even when its possible to find full TFA, dunwich or carcosa player card reviews, they're 3-5 years old so the meta has changed.
Shocked he put the composure as good. Yeah its 3 exp but 4 points of soak thats fast and 0 resources is PRETTY GOOD, esp when it boosts 2 stats.
Came late to this party! Hard agree.
If it was simply a fast slot-less 4 soak for 0, it would be good.
Cyclopean Hammer 2:24
Guardian 5:47
Seeker 23:14
Rogue 39:47
Mystic 54:14
Survivor 1:12:22
Multi-Class 1:27:35
Neutral 2:13:16
2:19:44 I believe playing “Hit and Run” on a Sleg Dog is known as “Sleight of Hound” 😄
I don't get what so broken about Pocket Telescope? Active abillity is super strong, but not on a busted level. Exhaust abillity let's you look on revealed side of a location but it doesn't say that it reveals the location itself. So you still need to enter the location/spend clues to eneter location, becaus otherwise there a no clues on the location to discover them from connecting location.
What am I missing?
I had a lot of fun playing Close the Circle and Cheat the System in Dexter. I don't think they're necessarily better than other options, but they are functional. Dexter being able to throw close the circle down makes the card feel a lot less expensive in terms of tempo, and getting one or two free actions (and another from Eon Chart) really makes you feel like Sonic the Hedgehog. Your friends will feel like you're a turtle, though, deciding what to do with all those actions.
And, never forget that you can do a draw or a resource action with close the circle, if you don't want to do anything else.
Synergy Finn is a ton of fun. Blur, Med Student or QuickDraw Holster, Track shoes. 5 money fast EZ and full power Backup.
Thanks for going through this in such detail. Great game great content 👍
Nice review! I’m an hour in, and my only shock is at unearth the ancients 2 - a staple economy upgrade for me in most seeker decks. Being able, instead of taking two setup actions, to unearth say hiking boots and a dream diary, or a scroll of secrets, or a dream-enhancing serum, or a lab assistant - there are so many useful assets seekers play, this is analogous to not playing scavenging (2) in a scavenging Minh - saves lots of actions!
I'm definitely harder on it because it goes against my playstyle, the idea of needing a card to play my other cards in my opening mulligan doesn't spark joy, so I'm more down on it because of that.
@@PlayingBoardGames Slightly off-topic, but just wanna say that you spark joy with all your Arkham videos. Love them all.
Nice to see old Lewis Brindley of the Yogscast (aka Professor William Webb) is not relegated to the 'fine' tier.
Wow, I’ve only realised he’s a spitting image.
I think a good way to look at "Close the Circle" is that it's a 1xp 3ish use version of "Pathfinder" which in all honesty is fair and if it didn't take up an arcane slot it would be easier to justify for me
Has anyone also played butterfly swords in the core set campaigne, and just destroy enemies with Lita Chantler? Cuz I mean, it attacks twice in a single action and can give one extra damage, so with Lita that's like 14 damage per turn
The one advantage Divintation generally has over Rite of Seeking is in solo, where I can spend one token if there is only one clue on the location. Saving tokens makes me happy.
I would still include Schoffner's if it cost 1xp which says a lot
It needs Survivor's recursion to be good, though. But in any Yorick or Scavenging (2) deck, it is pure gold. Also, good in a combo with Backpack and Geared Up. In a vacuum, it's an Emergency Cash, that needs 2 resources upfront and has the restriction to spend it on Item assets, at the upside, that you can spend it on other players. But in air, I also often run it.
Butterfly swords Lily Chen has been so enjoyable as my first real goon
Love these big rankings so much. Especially these retrospectives. It's really nice just to have all these cards swim through your brain again with hype turned down and a little bit of perspective.
Foresight is definitely great IMO. If you have ANY encounter deck control, like Scrying or Parallel Fates, it becomes a free, 1 XP version of Ward of Protection 5 that you can use on other investigators and don't have to take horror for. Plus the fact that anytime you search a deck for a card it still counts as drawing it.
Thx a lot for this content, i would be very interrested to know also, as a retrospectiv, your feeling about the add of " curse-bless " mechanic in the game. Do you use it a lot? do you enjoy it? what do you think about the integration in AH lcg compare to others AH games serie ? Still thx for your great work.
Is this the best place to do a video suggestion?
Revisiting EOTE made me remember - I >really< don't like the way the Investigators from this box advance. While I think Norman and Monterey suffer the least, I genuinely think Lily, Bob and Daniela (especially) suffer from having to move away from their base class.
To that end - would ya'll like to do a campaign runthrough some time where you play the EOTE investigators (specifically Daniela included) as Primary Class 0-5, Secondary Class 0-2 instead of their actual rules? I'd love to see how differently they play with 'normal' deckbuilding.
I just had a rough time with Daniela and all the best cards she would LOVE to play, she can't because she's a 'Survivor' instead of a Guardian. It's personal lol
It may be that you need build Daniela differently. I picked Daniela for my first attempt at playing a campaign on Expert. Despite never playing her before we won every scenario.
Would be nice to see a video breakdown on arctypes per investigator box ( current and to be released like circle undone etc)
Also what box or order you recommend buying . Kind of lost on what to get
Yo, could we get a full video on the sled dog archetype for your archetype series. Great video series btw thank you all for that.
I played Meditative Trance on Agnes with 5 Arcane Slots filled and it felt gooood for my sanity going all the way up. It was very fun and very easy to get those spaces, it's not a staple for Mystics but it is for a couple of builds.
Another use of Meditative Trance is with Lily Chen going for Arcane Slots with her Dragon Pole and then using Blood Eclipse as an off Spell for damage and then healing back
May I ask what your arcane slots were filled with? Curious what “big brain” play you were making.
@@kingcole5977 Sure, I was going for the Synergy built, I was Flex.
I was playing 2x Shrivelings, 1x Blur, 2x Divination, 1x Earthly Serenity and 1x Close the Circle as my Arcane Slots.
To open them up I was playing 1x Sign Magick, 2x Familiar Spirit, 1x The Hierophant Tarot
To heal outside of the Earthly Serenity I was using 2x Meditative Trance and 2x Fearless.
I was playing the version of 25 cards of Agnes so the deck was thin enough to see it all during a single gameplay.
Other cards were 2 Spectral Razors and 2 Drawn to the Flame. Oh, and of course 2 Forbidden Knowledge.
(The levels of the cards were ascending as I was Down the Rabbit Hole and the campaign was Carcosa on Standard alongside Rex Murphy and Tommy Muldoon)
I think forced learning would get IMMEDIATELY better if it said "discard one card" and not "discard one of them." If you got to choose a card from your hand and avoid needing both of those specific cards, then I would like it a lot more
What do you think of Cyclopean Hammer's ranking with the new taboo list?
Great review. I don't get what people don't like "Unearth The Ancients (••)". Every time I've played seeker, this card is an absolute all-star. So much compression, attacks on stacks, with Milan, or Harvey or anyone else who can utilise the Investigate trigger. Play Milan and 4 cost book out whilst getting a clue and money for 0, yes please.
I have a question based on something that you mentioned a lot in this video. If the card pool is so big that players aren't afraid of what the game can throw at them anymore, then what kinds of things are there that still cause players to lose?
Mostly suboptimal action sequencing in combination with bad token pulls. But while the tools may be very good, it doesn't mean all players can immediately use them to their full potential.
Hey Justin
Where do you get this list of all the cards as shown in the video where you drag them on to the tiers?
Thanks 😃
I made it myself, you can find it on Tiermaker.com.
Thanks will give it a look
Cheers
Hammer is busted even post-taboo. I'm actually mildly pissed for them releasing such a horribly broken card, then having a chance to fix it and completely botching it up.
Yeah, Hit Me in my experience became a Lucky card. Just doomed myself to future bad luck.
With Winds of Power, can you use it to add stuff like Secrets or Ammo? Or does it NEED to say "Charges" on the asset?
It needs to say charges. :)
@@PlayingBoardGames
Thank you! Also do you have a video like this for, say, all the cards in the game? Or maybe something along the lines of "All Mystic cards tier list"? Even if it's outdated, as a new player I think these types of videos are incredibly helpful!
We have a few old tier lists on our channel (found by searching "Ranking Every Player Card"), but it's my hope to revisit all expansions in this format in the future.
@@PlayingBoardGames
Rad, thanks so much
I want to see you make an underworld support Jim deck!
I think, Horror in High Gear is never quite the challenge. There are ways more busted than Pocket Telescope to cheese this scenario. (Barricade-Luke anyone?) We never broke anything in it, and it was still quite an underwhelming, boring scenario, not the "race", we had expected it to be. Would play ECC (or To the Forbidden Peaks) every time over this, if I had the choice.
I love rereview of cards, they are more accurate and first opinions, to be honest, are not that great.
Astronomical Atlas it doubles your draw speed and makes all your cards serve double duty. Used it two deck now and it was Busted in Norman and fantastic in Agnes. It must have been the Jim factor that made this Fantastic card only Great.
Nah, I've played it in other builds and have seen other people play it, I'm happy where I put it in my rankings.
For me as a noob, I really dont get, why all the cards like Dauntless spirit are ranked so low. Don't they give probably at least 2-3 or more icons, what is good?
Please enlighten me
More skill icons are nice and certainly helpful, but a card that just adds skill icons that you need to pay XP for is a lower impact than other cards that cost XP.
@PlayingBoardGames thanks for the answer, appreciate it! So problem is mainly the cost of the card, got it! 🤓
Cost of the card and also, in reality, passing one test doesn't have the same impact as getting ahead of the game in other ways.
But Justin, we already have a horror version of Bandages, it's called Grimm's Fairy Tales
How would you rate this against a set like Dunwich or Carcosa when it comes to introducing new staple cards for your decks?
I'm speaking a little for Justin here, but I think our group generally views Dunwich as better than EotE for staples, but Carcosa is worse.
@@blinxy511 Thanks! That will help inform my next buy
Blur on Kymani seems like it would be good or even great.
Are you following your heart of hearts or not? Make up your mind!
thx ! always interresting
"At this point, Jim is dead" 🥲
Sad trumpet noises 🎺
Thank god for Parallel Jim even though I love original Jim just the same
Pocket Telescope is the most Broken card in the entire game. I'll die on this hill. Chances are on any randomly picked scenario, this card wrecks a well crafted mechanic designed to impede you.
Welcome!
Haven't watched the whole video yet, but I'm really surprised that Unearth the Ancients is rated so low. Just pretend that the relic clause isn't on the card, don't try so hard to get it, and treat it as a card that gives you 1-2 actions, 3-4 resources and a clue. The economy and action compression of this card is actually insane. I don't mean this offensive and this is a serious question, but have you actually tried the card? Because I was sceptical at first when I saw it, but after trying it I can see how crazy good this card is. The only downside is that it costs 2 XP in an XP-hungry class, but if you need the economy, this is one of the best options.
I've played it and seen it played and it hasn't really impressed me like other cards have. Beyond that though, it is not a card that I enjoy the playstyle of, because I personally don't like my economy cards to require other cards to actually be economy. So it's rated lower than it probably should be for me personally because of that. I am not a fan of it.
To me Enchanted Bow is hot garbage. I haven't seen any investigators, especially in the survivor mystic pool, that do not use hand slots and do not use arcane slots either. And if you are a character that doesn't use those slots, do you really want to use it for something that deals 2 damage on exhaust? For 2 experience???
While I have not played it, I know Travis is a believer in it. I'd love to see it in a flex Gloria because she can get away without using both spell slots and still get clues well.
@@PlayingBoardGames Yes, but wouldn't she be better off with clueing spells and fighting spells? She can add healing, or the new doom things into her hand slot (yes, the doom things were not available when this came out).
You could put together a seeker package for clues with events and skills, and use this and Brand for damage, but I would still rather rely more on spells and a sword cane.
Having 2 bows equals 2 brands and 2 divinations in exp :(
I wish it was either cheaper, or give you a choice which slot you want it to take up.
While all of this is certainly true, the bow being able to hit adajcent spaces gives perks that other cards you mentioned don't have. It's a utility form of flex, not a 50/50 form of flex. If a bow can kill an acolyte on an adjacent space, it has saved an action all those other cards can't.
@@PlayingBoardGames I'm starting to realize that most of the opinion differences I think come from the player count. I almost exclusively play with 2 players, and I think a niche role there, is a no-go. I definitely see niche applications for it. I would not make a campaign deck with it. Maybe just use it for a standalone where I know it can do its best, which is to save 3 actions.
@@Bsli81 I agree that in two players it is definitely unappealing. Travis plays a lot of 4 player with his family, which may make sense why it shines so much there.