How have our opinions on the investigators changed since 2022? | ARKHAM HORROR: THE CARD GAME
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
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It's been a year, so it's time to dive in and compare our investigator rankings for the last few years. This is one of my favourite videos I make each year, so I hope you enjoy it as much as I do! Soon we'll need line charts and, honestly, I can't wait!
Justin 2023 Tierlist: • Justin Ranks All of th...
Bryn 2023 Tierlist: • Bryn Ranks All of the ...
Travis 2023 Tierlist: • Travis Ranks All of th...
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Just wanted to share the reflection that the list serves as a reminder for how long you have been faithful to the game and the community.
You three are definitely A(+)SS tier!!
Please continue to play Arkham with your children
I'd love to see the same based not on the power of the investigators, but on how much you enjoy playing them (which is very different). I prefer a weak fun investigator to a strong boring one.
We've had a lot of requests for a "like" tier list. I promise we'll make some eventually.
I have a soft spot for Jenny. She was my first broken deck. Her Green Man Medallion is bonkers. She needs to be carried for the first couple of scenarios, but then she can put the whole team on her back for the remainder of the campaign. Do you want to play an investigator who can get close to 100xp in a campaign? Jenny's your girl. If you absolutely, positively, want to run every rogue big xp exceptional card, accept no substitutes.
I've always thought they had a bit of a negative hivemind about jenny. She's certainly not top-tier, but I think she's comfortably mid.
One note on player counts - they skew toward ceiling rather than average. As a 4p main, I think Daisy is S (and taboo Mandy only B+) because she can create builds to get 3p clues/round, meaning you can have a weaker flex and dedicated support, or two flexes with leans toward fighting. Same reason I think Mark outstrips Daniella - he can kill 3 enemies most rounds, keeping up with the game.
On Gloria 4p, if you take scrying and Twila, you can end the encounter deck with a bit of horror healing. Her basement also becomes more important because you will cycle the encounter deck several times; an ancient evils in upkeep is a fair trade for removing 3 from cycling.
Charlie is another good example of the swing - he’s slow to set up (even with ever vigilant or Leo de Luca) but if he can focus on setup for 3 rounds, can roar back and do a ton. In 2p, you don’t have that time; you don’t need the impressive output but need more consistency off the bat.
Would love to see your thoughts even on 2/3p and how it changes things!
My opinion is that any investigator can perform very well at 4 player. I think the game gets more interesting from a power perspective at lower player counts and less interesting at higher player counts. On the flip side, deck diversity is more interesting at higher player counts and less interesting at lower player counts.
The game just seems impossibly easy at 4 player whenever I've played it.
My experience is that this game wants to kill you every turn and every turn we have to carefully decide what to do. I have played 4, 3 and 2, and four is just people playing their turn because they don't want to wait and losing the campaingn in the second scenario.
Maybe we are just poor players that can't build a deck that survives without playing 10 minutes per round.
How about a video about Eric ranking investigators based on how much they enjoy them thematically.
I think a better way of saying that there have to be low-tier and high-tier characters is that if they're all the same tier then they're probably just all the same mechanically too.
Marie is insane with the Cat mask
Why
@@DrDifra She is the best wearer of the Cat mask, which makes up for her 4 stat, as she can refill it every turn.
With the boost she gets from that and also getting from blood rite, without even upgrading spells or commiting anything she'll easily be at 9 for any tests she wants. David unchained is crazy good for her as well (first time we have unchained David and Sineater too)
Just what I needed on a Sunday morning
I think playing Marie with the doom assets is why most people think she sucks. You play her with a handful of doom effects and sacrifice to get rid of them, just to get the extra action. She gets zero benefits from having more than 1 doom in play really (asides from dealing with the baron). Trying to force the doom archetype on to her when it doesn't help her and is bad is why most people think she sucks. For me, she's a 4 book investigator i can get up to 6-8 book easily enough, who also takes a bonus action to investigate with 6 brain most turns. She's rock solid at that.
New to the game - but I'm curious - when 'deck-building' for an Investigator, do you use just the expansion they came in, or the core set + expansion, or the whole kit-kaboodle?
if you are asking in general, then there are no restrictions to the cards you can play really. As long as you respect the deck building requirements of the investigator of course, don't start throwing red cards in a Skids deck lol. But yeah, you can use all of your collection for any expansion and any investigator
Justin loves this video because Bryn and Travis slowly begin to agree with him more and more every year 😂
How do you refill divination with Norman withers?
Not only opinions on investigators change. The facts change a lot too.
Just a few new player cards can change the performance of investigators A LOT.
Thief Tools and Thief Tools(3) gave those agility 5 rogues a bigger boost than agility 4 rogues.
Would love to see a “red light-green light” video of investigator expansions (I’m new to the game).
I like Ursula. Because you kind of always can defend yourself. I don't really like characters, that can't defend themselves.
I feel like Travis is the opposite. He doesn't to think about it. Bryn is there to die for the group.
I always need a new tier list… I kinda suck at this game 😅
I just don't understand Parallel Daisy, she is much worse than regular Daisy in everything. I think you are right, the idea with her might've been something different and they changed course midway, she is very weird.
I think the top and bottom part of her ability contradict each other. The top part, you want to have as many tomes in play as possible, but since you don't get a free action to use them, you'll want tomes with static, reaction or actionless effects (Schoffner's, Celaeno Fragments, Astronomical Atlas...). But then for the bottom part, you actually want all of the tomes to have action triggers, but that just means that outside of the one round where you trigger the ability, you have a bunch of tomes that you don't have the actions to use.
I ways say that he is a very astute dunsparce
What are the ranks based on? Subjective whim? Do you have any concrete data like e.g. in 2 campaigns with 2 different decks investigator X died in every scenario etc.
How are we to know You are telling us the real power of each investigator and not Your own 'I think so but haven't actually played' random assessment?
They're called our opinions you weirdo.
@@PlayingBoardGames I might sound weird to You because I went to school while You guys apparently did not. "A+", "D", "C minus" etc. - those are called 'grades', man. They suggest evaluating performance. You simply deceit new players.
We're giving grades to the investigators to give them a ranking level for easy digestion. We are literally evaluating their performance, exactly what you're saying. We give these grades depending on our experiences with them and our experiences watching other people play them. That's why some investigators have an N/A ranking, because the person didn't feel confident enough to give an opinion.
I highly suggest if you want the nuanced opinions from all three of us, check out our individual tierlists you can find in the video description where we each share our thoughts on our rankings as opposed to coming into the 3 year summary video on each investigator. If you want the anayltical discussion where we share why these ratings are what they are, check those out. That'll have what you're looking for.
Now you can't take the Level 4 doom assets with Kohaku as well. Oh no! Anyway
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Quick Learner Stella is overrated by the community. After playing her through my favorite campaign (Innsmouth), I came away underwhelmed. I don’t see how Quick Learner Stella is an S in people’s opinions. I mainly play survivor and love the fail reward cards, so Stella’s extra action was not as cool as I thought it would be.
I feel Darrel would be more fun if he didn't have a 5 book, makes his ability feel not as good.
My thoughts exactly. Half the time I wanna play him for his Stats and Deckbuilding, half the time I wanna play him for his ability. Either way it feels like wasted potential, and the other half of the time, when I try to include both his stats and ability it feels like complete overkill
is Lola better than skids??
Agree on runic axe. That card is BOOOOOORING
Why is the years order not 2023, 2021, 2022, but instead 2023, 2022, 2021?
Because sanity?
@@DrMcFly28The video is about the dynamic of how the opinions changed with time. It would be obvious to have them in chronological order.
Instead, they are in reverse chronological order.
If we're doing funny orders for no reason, might as well use my option.
I’ve learned to ignore Bryn’s takes whenever Justin and Travis are involved. He’s the posterchild for that annoying millennial contrarian energy.
I actually enjoy someone trying to build in a bit of a counter culture style. Some fun decks live there.
I mean, he's obviously trolling and joking around, if you're gonna take life that seriously you can't enjoy anything. It's just a game bro chill out.