75,000 mile on my model 3. I commute 70 miles each day. I charge at 44 amps to 80% in the winter and 70% in the summer. Sentry mode at work, overheat protection always on. A few times each year I do a road trip to Montana, Sun Valley ID or LA. I've lost 7% of my battery since purchasing it 3 years ago. Most of the drop happened the first year and now it has settled in about about 325 miles of range.
Tesla's failure to give instruction on these points at orientation/ date of purchase looks like a serious omission. I have owned my Model 3 for four years now and charge depletion is becoming a real concern. This is the best video I have seen on the subject.
Hello, your suggestion to charge at 32 amps with 220 volt charger is best for Tesla battery is a bit curious. Why not charger at lower amps such as 5-10 using same principle as trickle charging a battery with small amps using a Battery Tender to charge a 12 volt battery for a seldomly used car or motorcycle? This slower charge rate is similar to using120 volts. Isn’t a slower charge better for Tesla lithium batteries? Thanks for your response!
I read that 32 is the best balance between speed and length of battery being charged. If you charge longer, your car spends more energy heating or cooling it wearing down other components. Additionally, it’s debatable as to whether charging lower than 48 amps does any benefit considering that 48 amps is already super slow (44mph) compared to fast charging (800mph at the peak amounts). Some ppl speculate that 48 amps is kind of already trickle charging
Tesla clearly states to keep the charge between 20% and 90% whenever possible. Not 20 and 80 like this video says. There is no data showing that only charging to 80% vs 90% benefits battery longevity in any way.
my understanding - any Li-ion battery will be better the longer it maintains 50% charge level. This is because it puts equi strain on both cathode and anode. Most of the battery devices like phones are shipped at 50% charges. I am charging my car at 62% daily and typically my daily commute takes only 6-14 % battery charge
Elon himself stated to hover your charge around a 50% Median For Example: I drive 20% per day, 10% to work / 10% home. Ideally I would start at 60% and end at 40% - making 50% the middle. Some folks out there would need to start at 80 and end at 20 Some folks 90-10 Some folks have chargers at work and only need 55% It really just depends on the person's life.
I agree, I charge my car to 90%. There will be no significant degradation keeping it at 80 or less vs 90. I got the car to drive it and have a decent range. so why limit myself for no reason? If there was an unexpected errand I had to do that required more distance I wouldn't wanna put myself in a situation where I had to now fast charge somewhere and take more time because I litimed my charge level.
I believe that charging your battery to 90 percent is the much better I have noticed that the car responds better and less drain also charging your battery to 100 percent every 15 cycles or every two months helps the battery chemistry and the balance of the cells
Its all in the manual. Here are main takeaways from the model Y manual . 1) The most important way to preserve the high voltage Battery is to LEAVE YOUR VEHICLE PLUGGED IN when you are not using it. Tesla strongly recommends leaving Model Y plugged in when not in use. This maintains the Battery at the optimum level of charge. 2) There is no advantage to waiting until the Battery’s level is low before charging. In fact, the Battery performs best when charged regularly. If you allow the Battery to discharge to 0%, other components may become damaged or require replacement (for example, the low voltage battery). 3) Never allow the Battery to fully discharge. Even when Model Y is not being driven, its Battery discharges very slowly to power the onboard electronics. The Battery can discharge at a rate of approximately 1% per day 4) For better long-term performance, avoid exposing Model Y to ambient temperatures above 140° F (60° C) or below -22° F (-30° C) for more than 24 hours at a time. 5) As with any vehicle, if your Tesla has been exposed to flooding, extreme weather events or has otherwise been submerged in water (especially in salt water), treat it as if it’s been in an accident and contact your insurance company for support. Damage caused by water is NOT covered under warranty. 6) Never close the charge port door manually. Doing so can cause damage. 7) To reduce congestion at high-usage Supercharger sites, you may be limited to a maximum charge of 80% when not using Trip Planner 8) Charging Best Practices a) Avoid allowing the Battery to get too low (the Battery icon turns yellow when the capacity remaining in the Battery drops to 20% or below). b) Refer to the information on the vehicle touchscreen (navigate to Controls > Charging) or the mobile App (touch the Charging icon) for recommended daily and trip charging limits. 9) When Model Y is NOT plugged in, preconditioning operates but only when the Battery's charge level is above 20%. 10) The Energy app provides a visual representation of your vehicle's real-time and projected energy usage. Locate the Energy app in the bottom bar by touching the app launcher (the three dots). Touch to open the Energy app and choose from the different tabs. The energy chart's colored line represents your actual driving energy consumption whereas the gray line represents predicted usage.
I’ve never heard this before. I’m wondering where he is getting a lot of this information. Everything I’ve read is positive on slower trickle charging. If you can do 110 outlet charge it is best for the battery. Maybe not most convenient but certainty not detrimental to the battery or car.
I'd do exactly that, 110v with extension cord. Depending on how long, I might look into a waterproof connection box for the charger unit that goes into the extension cord. I've charged my Tesla outside of my garage on a 30ft extension cord before, no issues.
@@ThatTeslaChannel I think about the Model 3 a LOT, unfortunately. It occurred to me EARLIER this morning that I would be buying a car that I can not charge at home because Tesla does not supply a charging cable with the car. Like I said to the Nurses and Doctors this morning, no one else sells anything that requires charging, and makes you buy the charge cable in order to charge it. The jury’s still out. Thank you for your reply.
@@glenhardy4770Teslas used to ship with the mobile connector charger included. Over time Tesla collected data about usage of them and found that only about 12% of people were using them, which is why they no longer include them with the vehicle. Also, plenty of phones (iPhone, Samsung) no longer include chargers, as manufacturers assume you already have one from a previous phone. Sure, the convenience of having a charger included with the purchase of a new device is nice, but it actually makes sense in some cases *not* to include one if doing so would significantly contribute to unnecessary e-waste.
Turning off sentry mode does not increase battery longevity. Also charging with 110V is not bad for the battery. No where in Tesla Manual that says 110V is bad. Tesla recommends level 1 and 2 for daily charging. 110V is level 1 🤷♂️
There are several items of information here that are plain wrong. Level 1 charging is not worse than level 2 charging for any battery degradation reasons. Level 1 is simply more inefficient (eg costs more) and slower, so level 2 is the sweet spot for speed, efficiency and degradation optimization. Also his comments on cold temperatures hurting the battery is also wrong. Cold temperatures simply stress the battery more if not adapted to properly and cause range and power loss while at those temperatures. Only excessive heat can hurt the battery long term.
Yes turning off Sentry mode and Cabin Overheat protection just prevents a complete drain of your battery if vehicle parked a long time while going on a trip. It might effect the battery if you do this allot.
@@cherokee180c0 Yep. Supercharging may lead to excessive heat, I guess especially on very hot days but good EVs have thermal management systems that can cope with this. I also wonder about heat due to stress on the battery from driving hard for extended periods, especially in hot weather. I sometimes notice the fan going after I stop in the garage on a hot day. We live half way up a hill, meaning the car gets a bit of strain on the last bit before home.
I don't have a option of a 220 plug so if I went to a charging station what should I look for meaning charging number instead of a super charging station
Tesla cars have a battery management system that helps regulate the battery temperature and prevent any abnormalities. Charging the battery to 100% won't harm the battery as the system adjusts the charge level to optimize the energy storage. However, it's important to note that low battery levels can damage the battery, so it's recommended not to let the battery level drop below 30%. Maintaining a battery level between 90% and 95% is optimal for the battery's health. If you're not going to use your car for an extended period, it's best to keep the battery level at around 60%. Moreover, the weather temperature has a significant impact on the battery's lifespan, despite the battery's heating system. Also, using a Supercharger to charge the battery can harm the battery if the battery level is already too low. Therefore, it's advisable not to use Superchargers when the battery level is too low.
Thanks for the video and answered my vehicle speed question. That is what I was wondering about the speeds people drive their EV vehicles. Seems everyone wants to drive them at 70-80 mph in the videos. Why not even drop the speeds of the EV to 55 mph which is what I probably would do. Anyway, nice to know it is better to go slower speeds for the battery. Of course I don't need to drive on Freeways. Also how about pre conditioning the Vehicle in climate weather for better operation and not so much strain on the batteries when the vehicle has been sitting for a long time. Take care.
A lot of these Tesla videos a year ago have the same bullet points but I don't think this is accurate with the information we have today. The main researcher behind the Tesla batteries says he charges his car up to 95% and drops it down to 5% as often as he can consistently and he doesn't see a bad battery degradation. I have also heard from many Tesla owners but have not done the research yet that you can supercharge your car every single day and it will have minimal effect on your battery degradation. I think Tesla is made before 2017 with the old batteries definitely have different rules than the newer vehicles. Also I think Tesla changed the software as to where 100% is actually 90-95% and 0% is actually like 5-10% I don't know, I'm learning but yeah. Btw, freaking great shot, that's the best spot to make videos in a Y. I'm 100% stealing that angle :) Subscribed and all that jazz, thanks :)
We have a model 3 RWD (LFP) and a new Model Y Dual Motor. Interestingly enough the manual really only says to avoid leaving the battery below 20% for extended times and to avoid extreme temperatures. It does mention for daily use charge between 20 and 80% but it doesn't actually say charging above 80% is bad. Our Model 3 LFP battery of course you can go to 100% per the manual and we easily hit 100% at least once a week. I'm wondering what will happen to all these batteries that never get charged above 80% because people keep hammering that 80% rule in every video or online group/forum. Like I said the manual never states its bad for the battery, only that leaving it at 100% is not good.
@@bdoering2712 leaving the battery at a high state of charge for extended periods of time causes more degradation. It’s best to leave it plugged in at 50% SOC most of the time.
It sounds like you have to drive your tesla as slow a possible to preserve the battery life ..i didnt do that in my mercedes c43 and i am not doing it in my tesla. Thanks for the info though
Yes you need to follow these tips if you hope to preserve the battery for 25 years/ 500k miles. I don’t think every tip here is sound advice or properly researched,
The point at 1min is the reason to be wary of 2nd hand Tessla, you have no idea what the previous owner's charging habits were. In the UK Tesla's devalue twice as fast as the average petrol car according to the surveys I now live in Asia and have a Tesla Y. They really aren't ideal here as 1. everyone lives in high rises so home charging is not an option 2. Here in north China we have 40C summers and -30 winters, Autumn and Spring are very short so what with air-conditioning and heating the battery drains fast! 3. You can't be charging daily or every few days for that matter as all chargers are in paid car parks and you pay for occupancy so leaving you car there and coming back at end of day will cost a packet. Not to mention the time fact of hanging around for the charge to finish. The other problem you also have is the obvious places to charge like the supermarket, shopping centres are all always full and you always have idiots who use the space to park petrol cars
Is owning a car, at all, practical in a city like that where everything you need is within short distance? I live in Appalachia where we have no public transportation whatsoever. I have a Tesla Charger installed in my home - but I would trade it for the ability to walk to a train station and ride to work & not have to drive or pay for a car.
Great info!! Once a week I need to charge my M3 to 100% for a road trip to a second home about 220 miles away. Is that detrimental? All other times I try to keep between 20-80%. Also, do you recommend recalibration? I have heard that occasionally draining to a very low percent, then charging to 100% can increase some capacity.
Great question! I think the crucial part is not letting the battery sit at 100% charge, so if you've got your charging schedule dialed in to finish up charging around the time you leave, you should be fine. I've done the recalibration before and although it's stated to help, I haven't noticed anything. Take care!
It's from 12 to 32 apms where you'll be fine about battery condition. And tesla battery feels the best around 50% condition. So if you don't have long trips daily feel free to charge up to 60% would be also fine.
So it's my fault I live in an apartment and can't charge my car other than a fast charging port? How the hell is the battery losing voltage everytime I charge it up?
The best way to accelerate at a comfortable rate for the battery health and ride comfort, is to keep it in Auto drive, especially if there's a vehicle in front of you. Typically it would accelerate at the rate of the car in front of you, but will not accelerate to radically, even if the car in front of you does so. I don't trust auto drive at all, nither should any intelligent person, so I use it as an advanced cruise control with a little bit of auto steering. But of course you should keep your hands on the wheel ready to correct or change destination according to road conditions.
I do know charging too 100% leaves no room for regen to work properly and may cause overheating, but as far as Charging a battery to full charge with no regen, I was always taught to drain it and fully charge it is best for it's memory and life..
Lithium ion doesn’t have a memory effect. They like to be as close to 50% charge as possible for long durations. The higher or lower state of charge puts the battery under stress. That’s why 20-80 is recommended. I leave mine at 50% plugged in on weekends and charge to 80 or 90 for work during the week.
Tesla engineers say charge to 90 (non lfp). This random influencer says anything over 80 will damage it over time (and no mention of lfp difference to 100) with no source. Yeah, dumb video
I asked the lady at the dealer what I should do. She very confidently said that Tesla recommended charging 20-80%. I left confused as I was sure my car had a lithium phosphate battery. When I got home the manual states charging 100%.
What a mass of bullshit. Don‘t believe a thing. My Batterie is 9 years old way over 50% supercharged over 360.000 km and 14% degredation. And Batteries became better since 2015.
Many tips are misleading.. It’s completely safe to use superchargers and there have been many studies proving that. Get your facts right before making a video. Thanks😊
I bought a Tesla range 330 miles but I am only going to get 80% 264 miles but if I can't go below 20% which = 66 miles on the bottom, that means I am only going to get 198 miles per charge, these videos are depressing me, I feel I got cheated..
agree , no one ever mentions this when you are buying a Tesla, and also that they devalue twice as fast (by a large independent survey) as a petrol car (in UK anyway) Also these charging habits are realistic some folks like me who live in apartments. The obvious and convenient places to charge like the car park to shopping centre, gym, supermarket are always full, so it means driving to inconvenient place and hanging around
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I wonder how much research went into a few of these. It's OK to supercharge 4-5 times a month but not more - what is that based on?
75,000 mile on my model 3. I commute 70 miles each day. I charge at 44 amps to 80% in the winter and 70% in the summer. Sentry mode at work, overheat protection always on. A few times each year I do a road trip to Montana, Sun Valley ID or LA. I've lost 7% of my battery since purchasing it 3 years ago. Most of the drop happened the first year and now it has settled in about about 325 miles of range.
Great info, thanks!
Tesla's failure to give instruction on these points at orientation/ date of purchase looks like a serious omission. I have owned my Model 3 for four years now and charge depletion is becoming a real concern. This is the best video I have seen on the subject.
The latest Model 3 standard range should be charged to 100%. The long range and performance models should be charged to 80% like you said.
Liar 🤥
Hello, your suggestion to charge at 32 amps with 220 volt charger is best for Tesla battery is a bit curious. Why not charger at lower amps such as 5-10 using same principle as trickle charging a battery with small amps using a Battery Tender to charge a 12 volt battery for a seldomly used car or motorcycle? This slower charge rate is similar to using120 volts. Isn’t a slower charge better for Tesla lithium batteries? Thanks for your response!
I read that 32 is the best balance between speed and length of battery being charged. If you charge longer, your car spends more energy heating or cooling it wearing down other components. Additionally, it’s debatable as to whether charging lower than 48 amps does any benefit considering that 48 amps is already super slow (44mph) compared to fast charging (800mph at the peak amounts). Some ppl speculate that 48 amps is kind of already trickle charging
Tesla clearly states to keep the charge between 20% and 90% whenever possible. Not 20 and 80 like this video says. There is no data showing that only charging to 80% vs 90% benefits battery longevity in any way.
my understanding - any Li-ion battery will be better the longer it maintains 50% charge level. This is because it puts equi strain on both cathode and anode. Most of the battery devices like phones are shipped at 50% charges. I am charging my car at 62% daily and typically my daily commute takes only 6-14 % battery charge
Elon himself stated to hover your charge around a 50% Median
For Example: I drive 20% per day, 10% to work / 10% home. Ideally I would start at 60% and end at 40% - making 50% the middle.
Some folks out there would need to start at 80 and end at 20
Some folks 90-10
Some folks have chargers at work and only need 55%
It really just depends on the person's life.
I agree, I charge my car to 90%. There will be no significant degradation keeping it at 80 or less vs 90. I got the car to drive it and have a decent range. so why limit myself for no reason? If there was an unexpected errand I had to do that required more distance I wouldn't wanna put myself in a situation where I had to now fast charge somewhere and take more time because I litimed my charge level.
I believe that charging your battery to 90 percent is the much better I have noticed that the car responds better and less drain also charging your battery to 100 percent every 15 cycles or every two months helps the battery chemistry and the balance of the cells
i got my car a minth ago and was told by Tesla to keep it aound 90%
@@CIF-pm7tk Polestar also say 90%. I have to admit, I keep mine at 80%.
@@winstoncat6785 i switched to 80% las month. i drive about 18 miles a day
Best video regarding this topic!! Thank you!!
7. At what temperature range is it to consider extreme cold or extreme hot for a Tesla battery?
Its all in the manual. Here are main takeaways from the model Y manual .
1) The most important way to preserve the high voltage Battery is to LEAVE YOUR VEHICLE PLUGGED IN when you are not using it. Tesla strongly recommends leaving Model Y plugged in when not in use. This maintains the Battery at the optimum level of charge.
2) There is no advantage to waiting until the Battery’s level is low before charging. In fact, the Battery performs best when charged regularly. If you allow the Battery to discharge to 0%, other components may become damaged or require replacement (for example, the low voltage battery).
3) Never allow the Battery to fully discharge. Even when Model Y is not being driven, its Battery discharges very slowly to power the onboard electronics. The Battery can discharge at a rate of approximately 1% per day
4) For better long-term performance, avoid exposing Model Y to ambient temperatures above 140° F (60° C) or below -22° F (-30° C) for more than 24 hours at a time.
5) As with any vehicle, if your Tesla has been exposed to flooding, extreme weather events or has otherwise been submerged in water (especially in salt water), treat it as if it’s been in an accident and contact your insurance company for support. Damage caused by water is NOT covered under warranty.
6) Never close the charge port door manually. Doing so can cause damage.
7) To reduce congestion at high-usage Supercharger sites, you may be limited to a maximum charge of 80% when not using Trip Planner
8) Charging Best Practices
a) Avoid allowing the Battery to get too low (the Battery icon turns yellow when the capacity remaining in the Battery drops to 20% or below).
b) Refer to the information on the vehicle touchscreen (navigate to Controls > Charging) or the mobile App (touch the Charging icon) for recommended daily and trip charging limits.
9) When Model Y is NOT plugged in, preconditioning operates but only when the Battery's charge level is above 20%.
10) The Energy app provides a visual representation of your vehicle's real-time and projected energy usage. Locate the Energy app in the bottom bar by touching the app launcher (the three dots). Touch to open the Energy app and choose from the different tabs. The energy chart's colored line represents your actual driving energy consumption whereas the gray line represents predicted usage.
Are you talking about NMC or LIPo4 battery ?
Wait so triickle charge using standard wall outlet is bad???
I’ve never heard this before. I’m wondering where he is getting a lot of this information. Everything I’ve read is positive on slower trickle charging. If you can do 110 outlet charge it is best for the battery. Maybe not most convenient but certainty not detrimental to the battery or car.
I’m in Australia, I have a model Y. Should I charge with 32 A ?
HOW MANY AMPS should we charge on the 220v??
I think he said 32.
I live in an apartment. No garage. What do you know regarding using the 110 volt charging cable with an extension cord?
I'd do exactly that, 110v with extension cord. Depending on how long, I might look into a waterproof connection box for the charger unit that goes into the extension cord. I've charged my Tesla outside of my garage on a 30ft extension cord before, no issues.
@@ThatTeslaChannel I think about the Model 3 a LOT, unfortunately. It occurred to me EARLIER this morning that I would be buying a car that I can not charge at home because Tesla does not supply a charging cable with the car. Like I said to the Nurses and Doctors this morning, no one else sells anything that requires charging, and makes you buy the charge cable in order to charge it. The jury’s still out. Thank you for your reply.
@@ThatTeslaChannel but you said charging slowly was bad for the car?
@@JT-et7ui he is confusing
@@glenhardy4770Teslas used to ship with the mobile connector charger included. Over time Tesla collected data about usage of them and found that only about 12% of people were using them, which is why they no longer include them with the vehicle.
Also, plenty of phones (iPhone, Samsung) no longer include chargers, as manufacturers assume you already have one from a previous phone.
Sure, the convenience of having a charger included with the purchase of a new device is nice, but it actually makes sense in some cases *not* to include one if doing so would significantly contribute to unnecessary e-waste.
Wheel caps does not extend / degrade your range by 10% at max they can cause 1-2% change
The same things apply on savings gasoline, less speed, slower take off.
What’s the range difference in your case after 3 years ?
I need to see your data behind some of these reasons of charging. Like real proven data.
Is there an option to check list of non-Supercharger in the car? New Tesla owner here. Thank you
Yes, use the adapter that came with your mobile charger
Thanks for good tips. Tesla wall charger charge at 48amps is it ok to charge? I ask Tesla service and they says ok but not sure
Yes
My model s won’t charge what should I do ?
I cannot use my last sunroof because it’s too hot, which takes away the purpose of the glass sunroof. Any suggestions🤔
Turning off sentry mode does not increase battery longevity. Also charging with 110V is not bad for the battery. No where in Tesla Manual that says 110V is bad. Tesla recommends level 1 and 2 for daily charging. 110V is level 1 🤷♂️
There are several items of information here that are plain wrong. Level 1 charging is not worse than level 2 charging for any battery degradation reasons. Level 1 is simply more inefficient (eg costs more) and slower, so level 2 is the sweet spot for speed, efficiency and degradation optimization. Also his comments on cold temperatures hurting the battery is also wrong. Cold temperatures simply stress the battery more if not adapted to properly and cause range and power loss while at those temperatures. Only excessive heat can hurt the battery long term.
Yes turning off Sentry mode and Cabin Overheat protection just prevents a complete drain of your battery if vehicle parked a long time while going on a trip. It might effect the battery if you do this allot.
@@cherokee180c0 Yep. Supercharging may lead to excessive heat, I guess especially on very hot days but good EVs have thermal management systems that can cope with this. I also wonder about heat due to stress on the battery from driving hard for extended periods, especially in hot weather. I sometimes notice the fan going after I stop in the garage on a hot day. We live half way up a hill, meaning the car gets a bit of strain on the last bit before home.
I don't have a option of a 220 plug so if I went to a charging station what should I look for meaning charging number instead of a super charging station
Any level 2, so basically non Suoer Charger from Tesla. Shell EV charging is great.
@michaelriera6277 ok thank you
Thanks for the tips!
Tesla cars have a battery management system that helps regulate the battery temperature and prevent any abnormalities. Charging the battery to 100% won't harm the battery as the system adjusts the charge level to optimize the energy storage. However, it's important to note that low battery levels can damage the battery, so it's recommended not to let the battery level drop below 30%. Maintaining a battery level between 90% and 95% is optimal for the battery's health. If you're not going to use your car for an extended period, it's best to keep the battery level at around 60%.
Moreover, the weather temperature has a significant impact on the battery's lifespan, despite the battery's heating system. Also, using a Supercharger to charge the battery can harm the battery if the battery level is already too low. Therefore, it's advisable not to use Superchargers when the battery level is too low.
40-60% SOC is best for max battery life.
I just got my Model Y LR a month ago and I'm only getting about 200 miles range.
Thanks for the video and answered my vehicle speed question. That is what I was wondering about the speeds people drive their EV vehicles. Seems everyone wants to drive them at 70-80 mph in the videos. Why not even drop the speeds of the EV to 55 mph which is what I probably would do. Anyway, nice to know it is better to go slower speeds for the battery. Of course I don't need to drive on Freeways.
Also how about pre conditioning the Vehicle in climate weather for better operation and not so much strain on the batteries when the vehicle has been sitting for a long time.
Take care.
A lot of these Tesla videos a year ago have the same bullet points but I don't think this is accurate with the information we have today.
The main researcher behind the Tesla batteries says he charges his car up to 95% and drops it down to 5% as often as he can consistently and he doesn't see a bad battery degradation.
I have also heard from many Tesla owners but have not done the research yet that you can supercharge your car every single day and it will have minimal effect on your battery degradation.
I think Tesla is made before 2017 with the old batteries definitely have different rules than the newer vehicles.
Also I think Tesla changed the software as to where 100% is actually 90-95% and 0% is actually like 5-10%
I don't know, I'm learning but yeah.
Btw, freaking great shot, that's the best spot to make videos in a Y. I'm 100% stealing that angle :)
Subscribed and all that jazz, thanks :)
We have a model 3 RWD (LFP) and a new Model Y Dual Motor. Interestingly enough the manual really only says to avoid leaving the battery below 20% for extended times and to avoid extreme temperatures. It does mention for daily use charge between 20 and 80% but it doesn't actually say charging above 80% is bad.
Our Model 3 LFP battery of course you can go to 100% per the manual and we easily hit 100% at least once a week. I'm wondering what will happen to all these batteries that never get charged above 80% because people keep hammering that 80% rule in every video or online group/forum. Like I said the manual never states its bad for the battery, only that leaving it at 100% is not good.
What about when you dont drive your car for a week, so you leave car plugged in or keep at 80 and let leave unplug .
Leave it at 50% plugged in
Tesla says to set charge up to 90% and leave it plugged in.
@@bdoering2712 leaving the battery at a high state of charge for extended periods of time causes more degradation. It’s best to leave it plugged in at 50% SOC most of the time.
It sounds like you have to drive your tesla as slow a possible to preserve the battery life ..i didnt do that in my mercedes c43 and i am not doing it in my tesla. Thanks for the info though
Yes you need to follow these tips if you hope to preserve the battery for 25 years/ 500k miles. I don’t think every tip here is sound advice or properly researched,
The point at 1min is the reason to be wary of 2nd hand Tessla, you have no idea what the previous owner's charging habits were. In the UK Tesla's devalue twice as fast as the average petrol car according to the surveys
I now live in Asia and have a Tesla Y. They really aren't ideal here as
1. everyone lives in high rises so home charging is not an option
2. Here in north China we have 40C summers and -30 winters, Autumn and Spring are very short so what with air-conditioning and heating the battery drains fast!
3. You can't be charging daily or every few days for that matter as all chargers are in paid car parks and you pay for occupancy so leaving you car there and coming back at end of day will cost a packet. Not to mention the time fact of hanging around for the charge to finish.
The other problem you also have is the obvious places to charge like the supermarket, shopping centres are all always full and you always have idiots who use the space to park petrol cars
Is owning a car, at all, practical in a city like that where everything you need is within short distance?
I live in Appalachia where we have no public transportation whatsoever. I have a Tesla Charger installed in my home - but I would trade it for the ability to walk to a train station and ride to work & not have to drive or pay for a car.
Great info!! Once a week I need to charge my M3 to 100% for a road trip to a second home about 220 miles away. Is that detrimental? All other times I try to keep between 20-80%. Also, do you recommend recalibration? I have heard that occasionally draining to a very low percent, then charging to 100% can increase some capacity.
Great question! I think the crucial part is not letting the battery sit at 100% charge, so if you've got your charging schedule dialed in to finish up charging around the time you leave, you should be fine. I've done the recalibration before and although it's stated to help, I haven't noticed anything. Take care!
new Tesla model 3: Tesla recommended to charge it to 100% at least once a week.?
So at what amps do I charge best?
It's from 12 to 32 apms where you'll be fine about battery condition. And tesla battery feels the best around 50% condition. So if you don't have long trips daily feel free to charge up to 60% would be also fine.
48 amps
32 amps should be fine for daily charging.
So it's my fault I live in an apartment and can't charge my car other than a fast charging port? How the hell is the battery losing voltage everytime I charge it up?
its tesla's fault you live their ?
The best way to accelerate at a comfortable rate for the battery health and ride comfort, is to keep it in Auto drive, especially if there's a vehicle in front of you. Typically it would accelerate at the rate of the car in front of you, but will not accelerate to radically, even if the car in front of you does so. I don't trust auto drive at all, nither should any intelligent person, so I use it as an advanced cruise control with a little bit of auto steering. But of course you should keep your hands on the wheel ready to correct or change destination according to road conditions.
I believe 90% is fine according to Tesla.
This is correct. Tesla states charging to 90% every day is fine.
@@bdoering2712 It’s what I do.
Great comprehensive video. Very informative
100% or 95% or 90% or 85% or 80% max which is correct - I am confused?....What did Elon Musk say? .... 10% or 15% or 20% or 30% low before you charge?
I do know charging too 100% leaves no room for regen to work properly and may cause overheating, but as far as Charging a battery to full charge with no regen, I was always taught to drain it and fully charge it is best for it's memory and life..
Lithium ion doesn’t have a memory effect. They like to be as close to 50% charge as possible for long durations. The higher or lower state of charge puts the battery under stress. That’s why 20-80 is recommended. I leave mine at 50% plugged in on weekends and charge to 80 or 90 for work during the week.
Tesla engineers say charge to 90 (non lfp). This random influencer says anything over 80 will damage it over time (and no mention of lfp difference to 100) with no source. Yeah, dumb video
Have you ever heard of statistics not? It's a Little-good. It's a little bad it's a little good it's a little bad
Roll down the windows and don't turn on the a/c. Buy vent deflectors that steer outside air into the Tesla.
Rolling the windows down creates turbulence / wind resistance and uses more power to overcome than just leaving windows up and running the ac.
citation needed for the claim that charging at 120v is bad for the battery.
Everything I’ve read is of the contrary with 120 being safe and often optimal, although inconvenient for some.
@@michaelriera6277 source?
"Irreversible harm to all different components" - it's a very general claim; can someone give at least 3-5 examples of the "different components"?
new Tesla model 3: Tesla recommended to charge it to 100% at least once a week.
just got a 2023 Model 3. its in the manual and on the screen. confused me until i found out it was LFP battery.
I asked the lady at the dealer what I should do. She very confidently said that Tesla recommended charging 20-80%. I left confused as I was sure my car had a lithium phosphate battery. When I got home the manual states charging 100%.
I’m confused too, so what’s the right thing to do on new 2023 model 3 ?
Manual of December 2022 model Y also says that, so that’s what I do.
100% is only for Model 3, rear wheel drive. The battery chemistry for that is different from the long range, performance and the Models Y, X, and S
What a mass of bullshit. Don‘t believe a thing. My Batterie is 9 years old way over 50% supercharged over 360.000 km and 14% degredation. And Batteries became better since 2015.
Many tips are misleading.. It’s completely safe to use superchargers and there have been many studies proving that. Get your facts right before making a video. Thanks😊
Do you want your battery to last longer get an ICE car
So basically live in California
I bought a Tesla range 330 miles but I am only going to get 80% 264 miles but if I can't go below 20% which = 66 miles on the bottom, that means I am only going to get 198 miles per charge, these videos are depressing me, I feel I got cheated..
Don’t, it is completely fine to charge to 100% for a road trip and ok to go a little below 20% the idea is that you don’t do this often.
agree , no one ever mentions this when you are buying a Tesla, and also that they devalue twice as fast (by a large independent survey) as a petrol car (in UK anyway) Also these charging habits are realistic some folks like me who live in apartments. The obvious and convenient places to charge like the car park to shopping centre, gym, supermarket are always full, so it means driving to inconvenient place and hanging around
Lame video. Many incorrect facts. Turns you off from buying an electric car
Ev s are jokes
This video is not accurate in reference to the LFP battery...
haha we have to be slaves to the car i buy it to use it. Better don't drive it is most effective to keep your range longer