Importing a Vewlix Clone Arcade Cabinet PT 1

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  • Опубликовано: 21 июл 2020
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    My journey importing Vewlix Clone Arcade Cabinets and a breakdown of how I got them and running. Enjoy y’all!
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Комментарии • 162

  • @AIDZ666
    @AIDZ666 3 года назад +4

    "Tokyo Attack is a project I love more than anything, it is not something I can continue to run forever. As such I have made the decision to end Tokyo Attack, and pursue other projects".From The Tokyo Attack Facebook

  • @voltz15
    @voltz15 3 года назад +4

    The thing that gets me about this setup is you already have at least a better arcade then the majority of those places that are still in business. Ticket and redemption games are crap, yet operators love the hell out of them and have no problem with saying "money talks" in their effort to push the hardcore gaming audience aside.
    Doesn't matter what games you have ported or emulated, they're still the real deal regardless.

  • @AltLabControllers
    @AltLabControllers 4 года назад +6

    The dream! I've been obsessed with Vewlix's as well since sf4. I plan to buy 2 of these cabinets as well one day. Need to purchase a house first though.

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 года назад +2

      tag me on some photos if it happens!

  • @grd90u
    @grd90u 4 года назад +2

    Badass brother. Can't believe you own two of these side by side. What a dream!

  • @chestercopperpot9294
    @chestercopperpot9294 3 года назад +2

    The Chewlix are great, the only part that is worth swapping to original is the complete control panel as it’s so much sturdier due to the thicker and heavier metal. Try them next to each other and it is like night and day when playing your games.

  • @shocknawe
    @shocknawe 3 года назад +2

    First game you demo is Vampire Saviour 2?
    You really are a legend.

  • @Caliska
    @Caliska 2 года назад +1

    I have been debating on what arcade cabinet builders I should go with but honestly I'm huge fan of the candy cab looks simple and clean. Wanna do a pc build with retro games and have my dreamcast also hooked up so this video just is big time goals for me.

  • @Charlie97L
    @Charlie97L 4 года назад +1

    Seeing this made me really happy! I'm on the same buy, and mine is arriving Tuesday. (I got blue/black 2p). They look awesome, and I'm stoked! PS4 and Taito Type X2 is going in mine. :)

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 года назад

      Please share !!

    • @Charlie97L
      @Charlie97L 4 года назад

      jonyfraze totally. I’m going to do a photo documentary of it!

    • @Charlie97L
      @Charlie97L 4 года назад

      @@jonyfraze Did you have to mount an external IR received for your HDMI switch remote to work?

  • @HECTORARTUROA
    @HECTORARTUROA 3 года назад +1

    0:01 VEWLIX: new japanese arcade cabinets.
    1:45 Cloned cabinets.
    6:15 Led lights and ¿stereo?.
    5:30 Space.
    10:00 XBOX 360 inside.

  • @NickelCityPixels
    @NickelCityPixels Год назад +1

    Yay recalbox!

  • @MrClockw3rk
    @MrClockw3rk 2 года назад +3

    If you’re into modern cabinets, I build a pretty neat wall mounted model for Umbrella Arcades. I do full builds, but the shell itself is also on there. They are made of powder coated steel, and are handmade in the US.

    • @zackaryt.castlefree8158
      @zackaryt.castlefree8158 Год назад

      Ive seen those and they look awesome but so expensive. Do you sell the shell only?

    • @MrClockw3rk
      @MrClockw3rk Год назад

      @@zackaryt.castlefree8158 I do, it’s in the DIY section.

  • @YooShark_
    @YooShark_ 4 года назад +1

    Owning even one of these would be a dream come true, but for now I'll probably start out with the recroommasters cab since i apparently live about 10 miles away from them

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 года назад

      I have a rec room cab as well, they are great

  • @stridershinji
    @stridershinji 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for sharing, awesome setup!

  • @JerryTerrifying
    @JerryTerrifying 3 года назад +1

    There are hdmi splitters that strip HDCP. I got a cheap one off Amazon back in the day to use an hdmi capture card with ps3.

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 года назад

      Swapped out the monitors for better ones so this is not needed anymore

  • @uriva0707
    @uriva0707 Год назад +1

    Thanks

  • @julinyas
    @julinyas 4 года назад +1

    Damn that's so sick. I guess I should have made a facebook account to join RASC there instead of only twitter.

  • @LazyPirate8
    @LazyPirate8 4 года назад +1

    I wish I can afford one of those. I'd definitely get one of these for my bedroom if I had the space

    • @Alpha17x
      @Alpha17x 3 года назад

      They're very affordable IF you get in on a group buy. I bought one years ago on my own, initial price was $640. After shipping, customs, etc it was $1400...
      A friend got one in a group buy, initial price $660, in the end he paid out around $900. His had a Pandora's Box, mine did not. They're also very space efficient.

  • @Bradaran79
    @Bradaran79 4 года назад +1

    Freaking Awesome, love it 🤘

  • @MadaoAU
    @MadaoAU Год назад +1

    i know this is a long time ago video, but i bypassed the HDCP on PS3 with having a normal hdmi extender.

  • @thelegendcollector8538
    @thelegendcollector8538 4 года назад +1

    Nice video I have chewlix and a vewlix they are pretty much the same thing... You made a good Choice most vewlixs still have a 720 monitors !

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 года назад +2

      Yeah I did a ton of research. I think I made the right decision.

    • @thelegendcollector8538
      @thelegendcollector8538 3 года назад +1

      @@jonyfraze And thank you for explaining about the dual monitor set up with the ps4 I just picked up another vewlix last week so I could have a head to head set up and I was trying to hook up a ps4 and had some problems till I remembered your video 📹!! Thank you 😊

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 года назад +1

      thelegendcollector I recently swapped the monitors to LG 1ms monitors so they are even better. I’ll be making an updated video soon with all the updates.

    • @thelegendcollector8538
      @thelegendcollector8538 3 года назад

      @@jonyfraze I have upgraded lg montiors in mine as well even my chewlix has the upgrade 👌 makes a big difference for sure cant wait to see more videos

  • @DxpeMikieBeats
    @DxpeMikieBeats 3 года назад +1

    Yooooo Jonny boy!!!!!🔥🔥🔥

  • @DrawnToFantasyBertross
    @DrawnToFantasyBertross 4 года назад +2

    I just got mine about a month ago, 2 player variant . I Also ripped out the jammer cables for two brook boards and connected it to my pc, as most newer games don’t support keyboard 2 players that easily, and kB setup using the jpac software is slow.

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 года назад +1

      That’s awesome.. would love to see it!

    • @DrawnToFantasyBertross
      @DrawnToFantasyBertross 4 года назад +1

      @@jonyfraze Shall do, hey out of interest I saw in your Video you can order those custom panels near the coin slot. Where are you looking for those? I was thinking of just doing my own but one with PS button / Share would be sweet for Xbox/PS4 etc... Plus a volume dial.

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 года назад +1

      Check out the links in the description to the Facebook groups. A few guys sell them on there. Also check this out: www.heartcade.com/product/vewlix-cpx

    • @DrawnToFantasyBertross
      @DrawnToFantasyBertross 4 года назад

      @@jonyfraze Ah man thats awesome, Ill order the 6 button set, its only $100 AUD shipped. I have spare buttons here.

  • @enfuegomane
    @enfuegomane 3 года назад +1

    Been on the hunt for a Vewlix for a cool minute. Pretty difficult to get one to New Zealand lol.

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 года назад +1

      i'm sure there's a few more people who you can possible go in on a group buy with.

  • @voltz15
    @voltz15 4 года назад +2

    I still want a showcase cab at some point....

  • @ForeverLacey09
    @ForeverLacey09 4 года назад +1

    These are pretty cool!

  • @aidanmccarthy9249
    @aidanmccarthy9249 4 года назад +5

    I'd love to do that if I had the money and room. Part of me would want to switch out for Sega Player 2 panels or Namco Noir. What's the resolution in the displays?

  • @neontetra1000
    @neontetra1000 3 года назад +1

    Very nice . I would have one screen in tAte for sdoj

  • @cryptolord9826
    @cryptolord9826 2 года назад +1

    Nice can u send me a link which company you got them on Alibab

  • @popeye7833
    @popeye7833 Год назад +1

    Nice stuff i really think ! Does the Marquee arrive like this ? any link for the Aliexpress shop please

  • @G0Z3N
    @G0Z3N 4 года назад +2

    Wish i could do that :) but yeah space and money :D

  • @wurlbfree1981
    @wurlbfree1981 4 года назад +1

    Supa dope bro

  • @dpc4548
    @dpc4548 3 года назад

    $400 to buy, $1,500 to ship... i'm in the country next door!!

  • @portfolios94
    @portfolios94 Год назад +1

    I want one of these so bad. If anyone in Canada is doing a group buy, let me know.

  • @zm5635
    @zm5635 3 года назад +1

    They are retailing those in China for about $200 to $300. The most expensive shit is shipping

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 года назад

      Yeah I can imagine they are cheap in China. Everyone has to get a piece of the pie I guess. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @Tomb76ski
    @Tomb76ski 4 года назад +1

    So if you had left the JAMMA in there could you play older PCBs like the Neo Geo, Atomiswave, PGM, etc? Would it be weird if it displays in 1080 and they were never designed for that?

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 года назад +1

      Correct. I still have the jamma connectors inside (just tucked away). To be honest I’m not sure how pcb games output on the stock monitors. My best guess is that they are upscaled to 480p

  • @voltz15
    @voltz15 4 года назад +1

    Now you just need to add ps2, ps3, xbox (original) gcn, and dreamcast!
    Look up the games on each and you can do no wrong.

    • @voltz15
      @voltz15 3 года назад

      @@enrique7934 I have those systems, so no emulation needed.

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 года назад

      My goal for the cabs isn’t to have “everything” mainly my favorite fighters and shmups. But since i set them up to accept hdmi, I can plug in essentially anything. Right now I have a pc, ps5, raspi4 with recalbox, and xbox360 for CAVE shmups.

  • @Mauldie
    @Mauldie 4 года назад +1

    jonyfraze the lord

  • @concacmai
    @concacmai 4 года назад +1

    Nice cabs! I’m still debating real vs chewlix myself. Are your monitors tn or ips panel and are they glossy or matte? Thx!

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 года назад

      1080P Samsung display. Hard to tell matte or glossy due to the glass cover. But if I had to guess they are glossy. Not too sure about TN or IPS but the viewing angle is solid. I’m planning on
      swapping them out to 1ms LGs however.

  • @spragzpc1
    @spragzpc1 4 года назад +1

    Epic

  • @allubis8950
    @allubis8950 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for the tips on the vewlix clone, really disappointing about PS3. If you find a solution please do let us know.

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 года назад +1

      Check the part 2 video. Swapped monitors

  • @Superdimensional
    @Superdimensional 4 года назад +1

    Dope

  • @deceptikhon
    @deceptikhon 3 года назад +1

    did it come with the single player layout or did you have to buy that separately if so from where?

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 года назад +1

      I bought them separate from TokyoAttack. I also recently replaced them with a nicer set. Stay tuned for a new video.

  • @rloweable
    @rloweable 4 года назад +1

    Noice! Can you share how much you spent total in both cabs? If not, completely understand. Thanks as always!

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 года назад

      1200 each plus freight shipping from the warehouse to my house.

    • @rloweable
      @rloweable 4 года назад +1

      Sorry if you shared this in your video. If so, I missed it.

  • @JavierDiaz-zh2jo
    @JavierDiaz-zh2jo 3 года назад +1

    Hey man, I got two vewlix clones too. where di you got the one player panel? and the other stuff? thanks

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 года назад

      I got it direct from my supplier

  • @patrickcarr9906
    @patrickcarr9906 3 года назад +1

    Love that you linked all the hardware, but I don't see the amp. All the small amps I see on amazon have a lot of trash reviews. They all worry me.

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 года назад

      Yeah it’s a shitty Amazon amp lol

    • @patrickcarr9906
      @patrickcarr9906 3 года назад +1

      @@jonyfraze I have a kraylix (another clone) and can never find a decent mini amp. Been using my screens built in speakers for years despite having speakers installed lol

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 года назад

      By the way the amp comes with the cab along with the power supply

    • @patrickcarr9906
      @patrickcarr9906 3 года назад +1

      @@jonyfraze ah got ya

  • @UttRConcrete
    @UttRConcrete 2 года назад +1

    These are actually cheap it’s the shipping fees that cost so much.

  • @vegeta1677
    @vegeta1677 2 года назад

    Wonderful video, registered immediately, by chance you can link where I can buy the two Taito Vewlix that you bought? thanks a lot.

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  2 года назад +1

      Through the Facebook group

  • @neccros007
    @neccros007 4 года назад +1

    There are HDMI "splitters' that will strip HDCP from HDMI

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 года назад

      www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00L0X2GIU?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title this one apparently works but it’s OOS at the moment..

    • @neccros007
      @neccros007 4 года назад

      @@jonyfraze there are a bunch to strip HDCP

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 года назад +1

      Links?

    • @neccros007
      @neccros007 4 года назад

      @@jonyfraze www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Powered-Splitter-1080P-Model/dp/B004F9LVXC/ref=redir_mobile_desktop?ie=UTF8&psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

    • @rloweable
      @rloweable 3 года назад +1

      @@neccros007 is that splitter you linked to bypass the hdcp for ps3?

  • @darrelldeguzman
    @darrelldeguzman 3 года назад

    Quick question man. Did you have to add a step down converter to your chewlix or is was it good off the bat to just plug in and start playing?

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 года назад +1

      Mine was setup for 120v

  • @Deadite8593
    @Deadite8593 3 года назад

    I love the dual output HDMI splitter setup for being able to have both cabs on seperate or the same game. Are these 32" monitors? Just debating what to try and buy/build for my mancave in the future since yours seem to have excellent elbow room between the two cabs

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 года назад

      Yup LG 32” displays

  • @garageink74
    @garageink74 4 года назад +1

    Did yours come with both the 1 player and 2 player cp? If not do you mind sharing where you got the 1 player cp? I have a legit vewlix L with a blue diamond 2p cp. but I want a 1p

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 года назад +1

      I ordered the extra panels with my cabs

  • @neotemplo
    @neotemplo 3 года назад

    Great!!

  • @NESRoge
    @NESRoge 4 года назад +1

    Thank you for the info man! The price does fit within my budget so hopefully I'll be able to get one, if you don't mind could you tell us how much was the shipping for you?
    I know it varies but that would help to get an idea of a range.

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 года назад

      About $400

    • @NESRoge
      @NESRoge 4 года назад

      @@jonyfraze wow not bad! Thank you!
      Also, have you considered using a Mister FPGA into the cab? Personally I think it offers a better experience and more accurate emulation than the pi.
      And why not wire the select button to the coin slot of the cabs? It'd be cool to have deposit some actual quarters into it for a more awesome experience.

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 года назад

      Eventually I’ll build a dedicated pc for the cabs. Good idea for the coin!

    • @Charlie97L
      @Charlie97L 4 года назад

      @@NESRoge I'm putting a MISTER in mine, likely, but for a lot of people it is pretty limited in terms of available arcade games (late 80s onward) compared to the Pi.

  • @jrami223
    @jrami223 3 года назад +1

    I just got 2 for 1200

  • @mowilliamsje
    @mowilliamsje 3 года назад +1

    What's good JF? @8:53. What version of sf is this?

  • @vadicanik
    @vadicanik 4 года назад +1

    Hey Jony, awesome breakdown! I actually live in Ohio but I don’t use Facebook. Is there any other way to get in touch with the group buy?

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 года назад

      you can try contacting tokyoattack directly but they do most of their correspondence via FB

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 года назад

      There’s a group buy happening right now. FYI...

    • @michaeladres1901
      @michaeladres1901 4 года назад

      Wah! Another group buy? Is it cool if you link for it? I can’t find it in the group. Your cabs are clean

  • @normanchilton2569
    @normanchilton2569 4 года назад +1

    Man, mega jelly over here. Im finally thinking about ordering a rec room masters sit down since i could just use my small collection of sticks. Ive been modding/assembling fight sticks for around 4 years now but want to move to a sit down machine. What do you think is a good starting point? Im not made of money but i have around 1k budget. Could you point me in the right direction?

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 года назад +1

      RecRoom Master’s is a good choice. I got one myself. Spend the money on a good 1ms 32” display to make it worth it.

    • @normanchilton2569
      @normanchilton2569 4 года назад +1

      @@jonyfraze deal! Glad to hear you like it. Cant wait to start livin that cab life!

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 года назад

      Norman check the links on the video description. I got mine through the group buy on the Vewlix/Chewlix Facebook group. It took some time but it was worth it.

    • @normanchilton2569
      @normanchilton2569 4 года назад +1

      I actually just got in touch with them! Im waiting for my join request to be accepted but ill be getting in on the next group buy! Thanks dude!!!

  • @yankeleherrera4467
    @yankeleherrera4467 Месяц назад +1

    Is that seller on Facebook still on business? I'd like to join for an order!

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  Месяц назад

      Unfortunately, no

    • @yankeleherrera4467
      @yankeleherrera4467 Месяц назад +1

      @jonyfraze oh man that socks. Oh well the quest continues...

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  Месяц назад

      The vewlix Facebook group is still around though. Definitely join it and you’ll probably get a lead on a purchasing one.

    • @yankeleherrera4467
      @yankeleherrera4467 Месяц назад +1

      @@jonyfraze yeah thought about that already, already asked to join it!.

  • @dayashathirsts
    @dayashathirsts 3 года назад

    Nah I’d buy this off you quick.

  • @xaxapnw
    @xaxapnw 4 года назад +1

    There is a guy not far from me with a storage full of vewlix cabinets. Sellin em for around 1200

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 года назад +2

      Thats incredible. What area?

    • @xaxapnw
      @xaxapnw 4 года назад +1

      jonyfraze Bellevue Washington, not too far from Seattle. Caught the add on offer up.

    • @xaxapnw
      @xaxapnw 4 года назад +2

      jonyfraze my bad had to check the add again. 1600. They are all Taito vewlix X cabs imported from japan offerup.co/rqyuABz2l8

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 года назад +1

      Ahhh that’s Chris from Hadouken Arcade.. Yeah they are imported used from japan and he cleans them up. I almost got one last year but something unfortunate halted my plans.

    • @xaxapnw
      @xaxapnw 4 года назад +1

      jonyfraze oh dope. I’ve been thinking of pickin one up myself. I’ve been spending too much money on sticks are parts though 😅

  • @jrami223
    @jrami223 3 года назад

    Witch are better these or the xtension sitdown.. and how was dealing with that guy anthony

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 года назад

      I have the xtension as well. The Vewlixes just feel so much more like an actual cab where as the RecRoom feels like a piece of furniture.

  • @aidanava8525
    @aidanava8525 4 года назад +1

    whats the little fan for?

  • @Hayabusadrop
    @Hayabusadrop 3 года назад

    the 2 pieces of wood holding your equipment on the inside, can you add more? or are you stuck with 2?

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 года назад +1

      im sure you can add more. but be cautious about proper artflow and venting.

    • @Hayabusadrop
      @Hayabusadrop 3 года назад

      @@jonyfraze thank you, now i have to find a place that sells just an empty cabinet

  • @Dima24684
    @Dima24684 2 года назад

    What LG monitor exactly you put in?

  • @arlokkkk
    @arlokkkk 3 года назад

    Hi, thanks for the video. I got a question. What's so good about this vewlix cab vs getting a full size arcade cabinet? Thank you!

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 года назад +1

      What exactly do you mean about full size ?

    • @cutseencinematics
      @cutseencinematics 3 года назад +2

      @@jonyfraze I think he's referring to a traditional stand-up arcade cab

    • @UMK3HumanSmokeUMK3
      @UMK3HumanSmokeUMK3 3 года назад +2

      There beautiful cabinets. There full-size but sit down. The benifit is the 32” widescreen for modern games. Old arcade machines use more of a 4:3 monitor. If you plan to only play classics then that’s fine.

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 года назад +2

      Vewlix are modern Japanese style cabs. Other than that it’s just a matter of preference.

  • @SmokeyBluntRoach
    @SmokeyBluntRoach 3 года назад +1

    Wait what columbus ohio? Where in columbus?

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 года назад +1

      not sure of the exact address but look up Tokyo Attack, they should be a registered business.

    • @SmokeyBluntRoach
      @SmokeyBluntRoach 3 года назад +1

      @@jonyfraze thats awesome! I live minutes away from columbus 😂 never knew

  • @ARCADER_RAPPER
    @ARCADER_RAPPER Год назад

    What is processor?

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  Год назад

      A processor (CPU) is the logic circuitry that responds to and processes the basic instructions that drive a computer.

  • @eltoro98xboxlive
    @eltoro98xboxlive 3 года назад

    Are these the ones from alibaba

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  3 года назад

      While it may be the same manufacturing source, TokyoAttack has a direct relationship with the makers and have them built to his specification targeted to home users.

  • @OmnipotentPeaceMan
    @OmnipotentPeaceMan 3 года назад +2

    It is a VA panel, with 8 - 12 ms,
    1ms is over rated and often lies.

  • @LanceHayabusa
    @LanceHayabusa Месяц назад +1

    lol could have bought 2 real vewlix from my boi chris at hadouken

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  Месяц назад +1

      Actually was in talks with Chris before I made the purchase. Unfortunately I had a big personal setback at the time and had to cancel. Since this video series, I’ve worked on a couple of genuine vewlixes for friends and I’m actually glad I got the chewlix instead as it’s much more friendly to mod, I got all new plastics instead of a used / dingy cab. I basically gutted mine and replaced everything with better parts to the exact specs I wanted (see the pt 2 to this video). But I always refer people to Chris cuz he’s the man! One day I’ll get a blast of a Astro from him.

  • @EQOAnostalgia
    @EQOAnostalgia 2 года назад

    Not my thing but i get the appeal. I prefer a standard cab with art. These feel kinda soulless to me.

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  2 года назад

      Yeah you kind of have to be into fighting games to appreciate them more.

  • @Boro87
    @Boro87 2 года назад +2

    1 ms and 5 ms gives no difference... its all marketing

  • @neccros007
    @neccros007 4 года назад +1

    Chewlix = Chinese Vewlix LOL

    • @jonyfraze
      @jonyfraze  4 года назад +1

      Bingo!

    • @neccros007
      @neccros007 4 года назад +1

      @@jonyfraze LOL.... I laughed the first time I heard that term...