I understand the impact of using definitive statements like "THIS EXERCISE IS BAD"... but to come out and say that about a squat for clickbait I think is pushing the envelope a bit too far. ✅ Need a new 12 week program to build lean muscle? Try my 5 Day Split for free! Link in BELOW! Comes with follow along videos, form corrections and downloadable PDFs you can print and take to the gym! - muscularstrength.com/Full-Workout-Programs/Muscle_Gain
Class vid Scott. The same thing happened to me when I stopped deadlifting and doing RDL’s. I was only low bar squatting & my hamstrings were always super tight to the point I could feel it walking! Added DL’s & RDL’s back in & boom, back to normal
Scott is correct, maybe in USA people don’t squat, the rest of the world squat all the time. Go to Asia and Africa check it out. I squat a lot because of Scott, my butt is as tight as a 25 yo, I’m almost 60, Scott is so calm and rational in this vid, he is mature with sound knowledge cumulated from experience, that’s empirical science, not from some new insight that the wheel needs reinvention.
Scott says Squat! Love coming here after reviewing other fitness 'gurus' who seem to cherry pick this or that cite to pin their complaint/bitch of the week video about. Here we generally get common sense videos free of drama with some science thrown it for proof.
Watching this before I work on my barbell back squats tomorrow…I will not be giving those up. I also will not quit conventional deadlifts, but I do bench press with dumbbells…it just feels better for me.
I am watching you since I was a kid it's shocking and heartbreaking 💔 Chanel like this don't get views! Still you are trying to help people ❤ keep it going sir.
The seated squat is the most natural position for the human body. I've had SI joint pain and a super tight posterior chain for a while. Since I started doing a 5-minute seated squat per day, so much better.
I love squats and I have really tight hamstrings. Literally disabled physically but I know squats do great things for people. Getting an ssb for my home gym to do squats in a way that works for me
I feel like the guy had the right idea but somehow confused himself into thinking that the exercises needed to replace one another? Specificity principle.. basketball players squat.. but they also run layup drills.
Yeah, your spine ends up in a bad position if you don't fight "butt wink" and/or let your back round over. If you keep your core tight and you're mindful of these things then back squats are fine/safe.
This obsession with "functional" crap can eat a fat one. Naw, I'll listen to guys like Mind Pump or Scott over some no name guy on the Internet saying something controversial to get some clicks. I mean if your body can't handle squats, by all means don't do them (although I'd argue that you're better off finding out why you can't do them and try to address that, if you can), but otherwise I think it's pretty settled they're a good exercise.
right on.. and I would argue that unless you have some sort of insane injury or mobility issues... There isn't anyone I can't teach how to squat properly.
Nobody wants to go out there and swing 50 lb dumbbells around doing swing squats. Also, squatting is one of the human body's most natural movements. We do it a ton as children. And squats actually helped fix my knee pain when done with proper form.
Is open trap bar Bulgarian split squat and single leg open hex bar deadlifts enough for me scott? I am a body fat 20% 40 year old guy aiming to stay at yhis forever
They are good for sure! Again depends on your goal. If you’re purely focused on balance then just these would be great! But if you want to build strength I would include other movements where you can load heavier weight!
You know what i have noticed is that alot of guys would prefer to train incorrectly becouse they can lift heavier weight that way. or they do not want to be corrected on a exercise they have been doing for years wrongly. I like scotts fitness chanel is the best on RUclips and has been for the last 13 years. Definitely deserves more views
I have to keep up on the good girl bad girl machine too, man if you miss the good girl machine for a while the muscle pain is something else. Also I don't like squats at all, but it might be the best exercise there is, maybe the low grip trap bar deadlift is equal to it, maybe superior for beginners. And of course you have to mix in the necessary accessories to avoid imbalances and tightness because everyone's squat is a bit different and no one's is perfect.
Yeah.. I tried to be nice about it with my response lol. That squat variation would be great for a circuit.. but regular squats are definitely something to keep in people’s routines
Been going to the gym for 6 months, slowing improving. Pushing myself every session. Very rarely now will i get sore. Went for a 10km trail run 350m elevation and now im sore lol.
I started by doing air squats and moved up to goblet squats. I'm currently on my second week of learning how to do barbell squats. It's quite a bit different and taking some getting used to, even with just a base bar. The first thing I had trouble with was the bar placement and how it was hurting my neck and shoulder area. After playing with the position a bit I've gotten that down. Looking forward to the gym today to see how well I progress.
I meen i get what he is saying in a way, it can be bad on your back however what ive found is better for me than squatting or leg press is heavy sled pushes and pulls.. super underrated and also unlike squats and leg press, works the entire leg including calves, noticed alot more gains when switching out to those
I like squating. But I can only go so heavy. I tend to feel it in my lower back unfortunately. I have to use a machine if I want to go heavier. Less stress on the lower back for me. Its even worse when I dead lift. Even sumo style.
Do not carry grocieries in your hands down at your sides, that puts load on your shoulders. Swing them..... Seriously. A tight controlled movement (the squat) is less prone to risk of injury than the less controlled swing squat. And come on. How can you take him seriously if the "argument" for his dismissal of the scientific research is....we walk...
I think barbell squatting is good for athletes or powerlifters but for recreational health or growing legs people are probably better off doing Hack Squats because they won't have to focus on form breakdown as much or they could do leg press instead.
Definitely agree with you! But I think squats are still important to include in a well rounded program.. like you could do a block of hack squatting and then a block of barbell squatting.. keep them both progressing!
What I found confusing is that he pointed out how tried tested and proven they were before going into the rest; everyone back through all of what mentions is wrong and he's smarter than all of them? 🤔 Personally, such claims kick of my skepticism and I'm far more likely to get informed with legitimate sources than I am to completely erase and rewrite what I do based on an Instagram post
Yeah try telling a bunch of Olympic level athletes to stop barbell squatting and see what happens. That swing squat he's peddling isn't fooling any experienced lifter.
That is DOMS - so totally natural. Unless you feel the pain in your joints. Your body will adapt, but you could lower your intensity when squatting (doing 2 sets instead of 3 or 4 sets - check out Mike Mentz method) if this affects your daily work.
What , that’s gonna mess people up more . People can’t even do squat right half the time , how can he expect to do some swing squats right . I hate these new fitness people lol
@@ScottHermanFitness fitness is a lot like politics, all you have to do is sound like you know more than everyone else, and people will accept it as fact 🤷🤷
Mhh I agree somewhat with how barbells often put you in cramped positions, most of the time people experience problems with these lifts because they force you into unnatural movements. Just like DB benchpress feels better for your mobility within your shoulders and chest. The older you get the more you are prone to injuries, thus you might want to focus more on natural movements and not loading your body as much with heavy weights
Well, I would argue that "heavy" and "mobility" really depends on your fitness level. for example, whenever I see someone bench pressing with a barbell in the gym and there shoulders hurt... it's always because they are "retracting" their shoulders... but not "depressing" them properly. But of course, always listen to your body.
If you've trained the squat and do it properly, its not unnatural at all. I think its only unnatural bc of people's sedentary lifestyle. Squatting down and standing up is a perfectly natural movement
The good old "it's not natural" bullshit argument. Hopefully the dude doesn't wear clothes, dwells in a cave instead of a flat, and nourishes himself by picking up berries and bugs all day.
🤦♂️really? Dude is just trying to be clever and different. Any coach or trainer knows, the back squat is king in many ways. He just doesn't know how to teach it. I say go both. Only I wouldn't coach a person with limitations through an exercise where they're slinging around a dumbell in each arm. That's just careless
Bahhbell and then proceeds to say the word Core perfectly pronouncing the R, come on man i was born and raised in Boston so you can’t get act by me, just be yourself and stop with the fake accent
Yeah, it's true. Squatting is stupid. Deadlifting is stupid. Benching is stupid. If you need to squat, look into a pendulum squat. Deadlift with a trap bar. Bench with a machine or dumbbells. And never go below 8 reps.
All I can say is that most of the dudes that try to reinvent the wheel, hardly look like they can lift. That’s all the proof you need to debunk their claims, really. I’ll see myself out 🫡
I understand the impact of using definitive statements like "THIS EXERCISE IS BAD"... but to come out and say that about a squat for clickbait I think is pushing the envelope a bit too far.
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Nah, let’s say it like it is, Scott. It’s not “pushing the envelope”, it’s being flat out dumb
@@christivie121 I mean... yeah.. saying to never do squats is not smart training
Its click-bait pure and simple. If I'm watching a channel thats start to pull that, I'd drop'em immediately. Trust is easily lost and hard to gain.
Scott Herman, this dude who said squat is bad for you is such an idiot. The squat is one of the most important exercises.
People need to stop trying to reinvent the wheel
This is less like reinventing the wheel and more like using bike tires on a car.
agreed!
This!
Holy shit. I haven’t seen Scott in years, I’m glad he’s still active!
Training method depends on what you are training for. There is more than one way. Variety is key.
right on!
words of wisdom, brotha
Thanks bro!
Swinging those weights looks pretty dangerous too
yeah, probably not something you would want to see people doing in a gym with people around.
@@ScottHermanFitness or mirrors around lol
Class vid Scott. The same thing happened to me when I stopped deadlifting and doing RDL’s. I was only low bar squatting & my hamstrings were always super tight to the point I could feel it walking! Added DL’s & RDL’s back in & boom, back to normal
yeah I was so surprised when the pain came. Man, got to stay well rounded all the time!
Scott is correct, maybe in USA people don’t squat, the rest of the world squat all the time. Go to Asia and Africa check it out. I squat a lot because of Scott, my butt is as tight as a 25 yo, I’m almost 60, Scott is so calm and rational in this vid, he is mature with sound knowledge cumulated from experience, that’s empirical science, not from some new insight that the wheel needs reinvention.
Thanks Joseph, just laying out the facts! And the facts are.. squats are great!
Joseph tell us more about your tight butt!
Thanks for Keeping it Real Scott!
Listen to Scott's advice. He knows best.👍👍
I’m glad you’re uploading again!
RIP physics and common sense.
🤣🤣🤣
Scott says Squat! Love coming here after reviewing other fitness 'gurus' who seem to cherry pick this or that cite to pin their complaint/bitch of the week video about. Here we generally get common sense videos free of drama with some science thrown it for proof.
I’m always here with that common sense man! Pure facts!
Happy to see you my bro
Thanks man! Hope all is well!
Watching this before I work on my barbell back squats tomorrow…I will not be giving those up. I also will not quit conventional deadlifts, but I do bench press with dumbbells…it just feels better for me.
I actually prefer dumbbell bench press as well! But I still do both dumbbells and barbell
I am watching you since I was a kid it's shocking and heartbreaking 💔 Chanel like this don't get views! Still you are trying to help people ❤ keep it going sir.
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS SCOTT!!!!
Thanks Chris!
Awesome video , thnnx 4 the share
My pleasure!
Hey Scott, hope you have a great week ahead of you man
Thanks Tony! Appreciate you bro!
00:06 ‘bah-bell ..’! :)
BAAAAAHBELL!
The seated squat is the most natural position for the human body. I've had SI joint pain and a super tight posterior chain for a while. Since I started doing a 5-minute seated squat per day, so much better.
seated squats burn like crazy! good exercise!
Seems he is trying to replace a major compound lift with an assistance exercise.
the basics can never be replaced. I wish more people would adopt that mindset before creating content.
Damn Scott, you were really tame in this video 😂 I would’ve expected you to go off haha
haha. I am trying to come across more as a helpful coach with these critiques and not a yammering asshole... LMAO!
I observe that people having knee pain and back pain after doing squat because of wrong posture.
9/10... pain comes from bad form. I agree!
I love squats and I have really tight hamstrings. Literally disabled physically but I know squats do great things for people. Getting an ssb for my home gym to do squats in a way that works for me
Nice man, I really should get myself a safety squat bar as well!
@@ScottHermanFitness I'd like to see what you think about it.
I feel like the guy had the right idea but somehow confused himself into thinking that the exercises needed to replace one another? Specificity principle.. basketball players squat.. but they also run layup drills.
yeah, it should have been presented as an "option" not a replacement
Yeah, your spine ends up in a bad position if you don't fight "butt wink" and/or let your back round over. If you keep your core tight and you're mindful of these things then back squats are fine/safe.
Good form will always prevail!
Thanks! I will start doing the good and bad girls now. Never really knew why they were nerded.
oh yeah, definitely needed!
Good! Excellent! 👍💪
Scott was very calm and nice in this video. I like it. But I also like inst-garbage Scott as well!!!
I think these are better where I open some dialogue instead of just ripping into people lol!
Thank you for the reply! Always cool to hear from the channel owners, rare in fitness channels.
This obsession with "functional" crap can eat a fat one.
Naw, I'll listen to guys like Mind Pump or Scott over some no name guy on the Internet saying something controversial to get some clicks.
I mean if your body can't handle squats, by all means don't do them (although I'd argue that you're better off finding out why you can't do them and try to address that, if you can), but otherwise I think it's pretty settled they're a good exercise.
right on.. and I would argue that unless you have some sort of insane injury or mobility issues... There isn't anyone I can't teach how to squat properly.
Nobody wants to go out there and swing 50 lb dumbbells around doing swing squats. Also, squatting is one of the human body's most natural movements. We do it a ton as children. And squats actually helped fix my knee pain when done with proper form.
Right on Matt. No need to be throwing squats out the window any time soon!
How typical this guy says don't do squats and he has tiny legs
lmao
He does have chicken legs! 😂
i mean... you are not wrong.
It all depends on goals, no exercise is good or bad for everyone
Couldn’t agree more!
Yeah. You can potentially injure yourself while walking. Does that mean walking is dangerous?
You can die from drinking too much water, so should we stop drinking water?
Is open trap bar Bulgarian split squat and single leg open hex bar deadlifts enough for me scott?
I am a body fat 20% 40 year old guy aiming to stay at yhis forever
They are good for sure! Again depends on your goal. If you’re purely focused on balance then just these would be great! But if you want to build strength I would include other movements where you can load heavier weight!
@@ScottHermanFitness thank you very much
You know what i have noticed is that alot of guys would prefer to train incorrectly becouse they can lift heavier weight that way. or they do not want to be corrected on a exercise they have been doing for years wrongly. I like scotts fitness chanel is the best on RUclips and has been for the last 13 years. Definitely deserves more views
Ridiculousness
yes!
I have to keep up on the good girl bad girl machine too, man if you miss the good girl machine for a while the muscle pain is something else. Also I don't like squats at all, but it might be the best exercise there is, maybe the low grip trap bar deadlift is equal to it, maybe superior for beginners. And of course you have to mix in the necessary accessories to avoid imbalances and tightness because everyone's squat is a bit different and no one's is perfect.
If you miss good girl / bad girl for a few weeks... GO LIGHT.. haha.. or else you will be dying!
Bloody hell been ages Scott. Saw you at the Bitcoin conference 👍🏾
Yooooooo yeah Jeet! Yeah man, been busy building www.wagmigame.io!!! haha
Have you checked it out yet?
@@ScottHermanFitness I’ll check this out for sure bro. Hope you have been keeping well.
I love barbell back squat. It's a basic movement, it's pure power.
Scott, that guy doesn't know what he is talking about.
Yeah.. I tried to be nice about it with my response lol. That squat variation would be great for a circuit.. but regular squats are definitely something to keep in people’s routines
Been going to the gym for 6 months, slowing improving. Pushing myself every session. Very rarely now will i get sore. Went for a 10km trail run 350m elevation and now im sore lol.
Nice work! 6 months into it will still be your newbie phase! Make the most of it!
I started by doing air squats and moved up to goblet squats. I'm currently on my second week of learning how to do barbell squats. It's quite a bit different and taking some getting used to, even with just a base bar. The first thing I had trouble with was the bar placement and how it was hurting my neck and shoulder area. After playing with the position a bit I've gotten that down. Looking forward to the gym today to see how well I progress.
I've got a video / article that can really help you out! check it out here!
muscularstrength.com/article/Squat-High-Bar-Versus-Low-Bar
It hurts in the beginning bro but u get to a point one day where it doesnt hurt anymore just keep at it good luck
I can already imagine sombody doing those swinging squats in a gym and accidentally launching a dumbell at someone's face.
Man that would not be good!
My cach, pached the pop and cached the baaaahbell
You can do trap bar squats and it's better then barbell squat and also safest :)
Sound, solid advice as usual. Ricky still away?
thanks man! and yes... still not back 😅
@@ScottHermanFitness Aw man. Not that there was anything wrong with your video. Just miss the dynamic between you two.
I meen i get what he is saying in a way, it can be bad on your back however what ive found is better for me than squatting or leg press is heavy sled pushes and pulls.. super underrated and also unlike squats and leg press, works the entire leg including calves, noticed alot more gains when switching out to those
I like squating. But I can only go so heavy. I tend to feel it in my lower back unfortunately. I have to use a machine if I want to go heavier. Less stress on the lower back for me.
Its even worse when I dead lift. Even sumo style.
Swing those dumbbells right at your knees
Do not carry grocieries in your hands down at your sides, that puts load on your shoulders. Swing them.....
Seriously. A tight controlled movement (the squat) is less prone to risk of injury than the less controlled swing squat.
And come on. How can you take him seriously if the "argument" for his dismissal of the scientific research is....we walk...
Definitely hard to take seriously.. there were like 500 comments on his video and I don’t think many of them would have been positive…
I think barbell squatting is good for athletes or powerlifters but for recreational health or growing legs people are probably better off doing Hack Squats because they won't have to focus on form breakdown as much or they could do leg press instead.
Having very well developed stability muscles and balance that are developed by squats are great
I think they're better off doing both
Definitely agree with you! But I think squats are still important to include in a well rounded program.. like you could do a block of hack squatting and then a block of barbell squatting.. keep them both progressing!
What I found confusing is that he pointed out how tried tested and proven they were before going into the rest; everyone back through all of what mentions is wrong and he's smarter than all of them? 🤔
Personally, such claims kick of my skepticism and I'm far more likely to get informed with legitimate sources than I am to completely erase and rewrite what I do based on an Instagram post
It's content for engagement. Thats about it.
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Yeah try telling a bunch of Olympic level athletes to stop barbell squatting and see what happens. That swing squat he's peddling isn't fooling any experienced lifter.
agreed 100%
i refuse to do taht swing dumbell squat because I would look like a moron doing that in the gym
Lol. As part of a circuit it’s OK.. but you wouldn’t want to be doing that in the squat rack lol!
I limit my squat now to every other week because of my knees and tendons in my ankles have been killing me.
Sorry to hear that. Are you wearing knee sleeves?
That is just what dumb people say 😂 put that shit on your back and crush your gains
Damn right! LIFT WEIGHTS! LETS GOOOOO!
After I herniated a disc, I realized that many weightlifting exercises are inherently dangerous and not worth it.
Every time I squat I have pain in my legs that persist 2-3 days after is it bad form or normal muscle soreness?
That is DOMS - so totally natural. Unless you feel the pain in your joints.
Your body will adapt, but you could lower your intensity when squatting (doing 2 sets instead of 3 or 4 sets - check out Mike Mentz method) if this affects your daily work.
@@PeaceunknownandunspokenJesus thanks for the reply man
Screams bad form to me, and finding a way to defend it.
yeah, my thoughts exactly
@@ScottHermanFitness I see it a lot with deadlifting as well
People try to innovate and come up with these new methods. Come on, old school will always be the golden ways.
Where is your Jabra Headset Scott? ;)
charging! haha
@@ScottHermanFitness show yourself with it again soon ;)
Swing squats? is he trying to convert me to the crossfit cult or something?
maybe! haha
I love Squats.
ER UH! HE IS STILL SQUATTING!
I just do hack squats and leg presses gets the job done
that works too! As long as you are overloading!
What , that’s gonna mess people up more . People can’t even do squat right half the time , how can he expect to do some swing squats right . I hate these new fitness people lol
It's not an exercise I would put at the top of my list. Thats for sure.
@@ScottHermanFitness I’ve always loved squatting . It’s so easy to learn . People are stupid
At least you're reacting to training videos...
When do you go back to content creation?
I've got some things I am working on. 😁
Parabolic motion and contralateral reciprocal huh? Just f***in lift
you said it!
I just wouldn't give people spouting such utter nonsense attention tbh.
well, its still a good topic to debate in the comment section
@@ScottHermanFitness maybe. People just like to push controversial opinions for likes these days.
It's crazy how much BS he managed to pack into that description while still saying nothing
yeah, it was a fancy way of describing a problem that doesnt really exist
@@ScottHermanFitness fitness is a lot like politics, all you have to do is sound like you know more than everyone else, and people will accept it as fact 🤷🤷
Wow
swing squats = bye bye knee caps 🧐
Nothing wrong with swing squats. You wouldn’t be loading them up like you do regular back squats
Mhh I agree somewhat with how barbells often put you in cramped positions, most of the time people experience problems with these lifts because they force you into unnatural movements. Just like DB benchpress feels better for your mobility within your shoulders and chest. The older you get the more you are prone to injuries, thus you might want to focus more on natural movements and not loading your body as much with heavy weights
Well, I would argue that "heavy" and "mobility" really depends on your fitness level.
for example, whenever I see someone bench pressing with a barbell in the gym and there shoulders hurt... it's always because they are "retracting" their shoulders... but not "depressing" them properly.
But of course, always listen to your body.
If you've trained the squat and do it properly, its not unnatural at all. I think its only unnatural bc of people's sedentary lifestyle. Squatting down and standing up is a perfectly natural movement
Squat is killing your gain 😂
LMAO!
The good old "it's not natural" bullshit argument.
Hopefully the dude doesn't wear clothes, dwells in a cave instead of a flat, and nourishes himself by picking up berries and bugs all day.
🤦♂️really? Dude is just trying to be clever and different. Any coach or trainer knows, the back squat is king in many ways. He just doesn't know how to teach it. I say go both. Only I wouldn't coach a person with limitations through an exercise where they're slinging around a dumbell in each arm. That's just careless
Lol
☝️
This guy was born yesterday and he looks old that’s all, doesn’t know better😅
Lol!
Total BS
If you mean his video and not mine lol! Totally agree!
@@ScottHermanFitness I'm saying his
Someone needs to introduce this functional fitness wannabe to Elgin
Granpa growing old now trying to get publicity by putting down others, last resort
Bahhbell and then proceeds to say the word Core perfectly pronouncing the R, come on man i was born and raised in Boston so you can’t get act by me, just be yourself and stop with the fake accent
Good advice squats are pointless
Squatting is an every day movement for a lot of people man. Definitely not pointless
@@ScottHermanFitness with up to 20kg is an everyday movement, I don’t see the point in going heavy
What the guy is saying is similar to how indian wrestlers do squats so id defos give them a try
There’s nothing wrong with that movement. But it’s definitely not a replacement for a barbell back squat
@@ScottHermanFitness yeh for sure 100%
Bahhhhbell
BAAAAAHBELL!
@@ScottHermanFitness classic Scott Herman.
Yeah, it's true. Squatting is stupid. Deadlifting is stupid. Benching is stupid. If you need to squat, look into a pendulum squat. Deadlift with a trap bar. Bench with a machine or dumbbells. And never go below 8 reps.
well.. I dont agree with that!
All I can say is that most of the dudes that try to reinvent the wheel, hardly look like they can lift. That’s all the proof you need to debunk their claims, really.
I’ll see myself out 🫡
you are not wrong