With a good oled tv and a good player like the ub820 , yes it's worth it if you can get them on sale. Most of them also come with a regular blu ray version as well which you can keep or sell to recoop some of the money difference. The audio is generally better than regular blu ray and the visual quality is generally better, although some better than others.
4k is eye candy, and I love it I own a 65" in sceen tv If you consider purchasing a movie as an "investment" in your cinema library of movies you love, I can not recommend enough. I only buy blurays if there's no 4k. Blu-rays are still great btw and is the new standard imo. I buy most 4ks on sale but "invest" in some special releases like Arrow Video's Hellraiser Tetralogy. Dvds only if not on Blu-ray or 4k. Great video Jamie n happy new year
If I would have a 4k player I would only buy specific titles like "The Fugitive" which had a horrible blu-ray transfer. I would also buy 4k movies that are filmed on IMAX (Nolan movies), but for now I'm content with blu-ray. I've heard the 4k discs are scratched easily which I think is a major disadvantage compared to blu-ray. Blu-ray has a protective coating on the data side. For now, I can't afford 4k. Good vid Jamie!
I love how you will apologize for even the slightest most harmless of off color remarks. You are a very nice person, and that's rare these days. Don't ever change.
Movies with Bad 4K Transfers: True Lies Terminator 2 Pirates of the Caribbean 1 Star Wars Episodes 1, 4, 5, & 6 Lord of the Rings Trilogy Planes, Trains, & Automobiles
I tend only to collect titles that I have seen & which I enjoy. I also only collect movies which are on the 4K format, as they are the definitive edition of the movie. And from an artistic & collectors standpoint, I gravitate towards steelbooks. This is just the way I collect… But I do only purchase 10-12 titles per year, as I’m quite minimalist as far as collectors go; So the price isn’t a huge issue for me! 👍
I have no planson collecting 4K, it was only a few years back I even started buying Blu, for me it is not about how clear a movie looks or sounds, it is about the story the reason I watch the movie to begin with.
I'm 50 and been collecting since I was around about 16-17 having started with VHS, and then I upgraded to DvD (which I was happy to do) and then I updated my favourite movies to BluRay (which I was happy to do) - I'm NOT updating to 4K as I don't see the point as 6K/8K could be just around the corner - and even then I probably won't upgrade yet again as it's not as if I have a hundred inch tv, so it's not necessary. I still buy DvD's on a regular basis as I'm perfectly happy with that format.
There is definitely enough of a quality difference in blu ray vs. DVD to make it worth the upgrade, but the difference between blu ray and 4K just doesn't seem worth a re-purchase, especially with the high prices they're asking for 4K discs...
DVD was leaps & bounds above VHS so were happy buying those with some favorites on BR. The annoying thing is a lot of DVDs are now just vanilla releases with no extras, which forces you to buy Blu Ray as a film buff. Really not fussed about 4k, especially with all the re-mastering/tinkering going on. DVD/BR quality is enough for me.
That’s truth just got a projector and most dvds look better then 4K streaming in some cases , watched a 4K stream of Intersteller then switched to Blu-ray version And it looked way better , all IMAX scenes are intact .@@trevormaurer3684
I agree with you on that, but I am one of these people that wants to get my everything while it’s still in print as cheap as I can and take care of it and even if I have to buy it from Amazon global I will get it. I start 4K collecting this year because my Blu-ray were acting up. It’s starting picture calling I did sell my blue case starting to crack. My Blu-ray disc cases were starting to crack and Louis were so my Blu-ray disc quit a long time and my TV started doing the same thing so it wasn’t a matter of should I do it or not I was future proofing myself.
Good talk. I do agree with up to the individual going to upgrade or not. My thoughts are blu-ray will still be strong in sales. Big difference from original dvd to blu-ray , and from blu-ray to 4k vary. Some 4k are great where as some are same or worse on 4k. Some of my favorite movies I upgraded from dvd to blu-ray and very happy. They are other movies I did get to 4k, but only when prices are low. Other movies I’ve seen on Netflix and decide I like it enough, I will get it on 4k when its less then $25. I do watch other channels to help me decide if I should or not get it on 4k. Also, most 4k players will upscale older format. I’ve watched a blu-ray on older blu-ray player, then turn around and play same blu-ray on 4k player, movie looks better. Also remember, you can find used movies at theft stores, just check disc is not scratched. Happy new year!
I only intend on getting the 4ks that are OBJECTIVELY the best way to watch the movie or show, where the conversion is actually good and make they watch the superior and ultimate version to experience, like the alien conversion and such, same goes fr the films I love that have TERRIBLE 4ks, o will just not get it
Bringing out the dead is one of my favorite movies, and I just started buying blu-rays and it went out of print several months ago. I ended up buying one on eBay for $130 😅. Technically with $65 but the seller was selling Chinatown also both for $130 so I bought it because other sellers were offering over a hundred just for the movie. I don't even want to talk about how much money I've spent on out of print anime. That's the only thing that has wrecked my budget, I wish stuff didn't go out of print.
4K is awesome, but unless it's a movie I really love and know I'll watch repeatedly, the higher quality picture usually isn't worth the extra money compared to the cheaper blu ray that looks almost as good...
In almost all instances I’ve seen, a 4K remaster on standard Blu-ray looks just as good or better than the HDR 4K version. I’m watching on a 115” 2.35:1 projection screen, so it’s not like my screen is too small to notice a difference. I understand that HDR on projectors isn’t ideal, so this colors my opinion. Resolution (perceived sharpness and contrast) between the two are negligible, though.
I think it’s worth it. I want the best quality available. I only buy blu ray if it’s not available on 4K. I will buy DVD if that’s the only physical format it’s available from. So my preference is 1. 4K blu ray 2. Blu ray 3. DVD In terms of pricing a new 4K blu ray release. Here in the UK it’s about £24.99 for a standard 4K blu ray. For a new digital 4K movie it’s £19.99. So the price difference isn’t that different.
Blu ray is truly the superior format. It’s bright and crisp on virtually any OLED, LED or HD TV. Blu rays are much, much cheaper to buy and collect now. They have the protective coating on them, to make them last for decades. 4K discs do, too, but the 4K format is much, much more of an “acquired taste”. On average, the quality of the 4k scan is only about 20-30% better than the comparative blu ray scan (sourced from the same transfer). And, what kind of TV you have and how well you’ve calibrated that TV matters soooo much more with 4Ks. It’s technically a higher quality format, yes, but the devil is always in the details.
100% worth it for HDR/Dolby Vision alone. Of course you have to have a set up that can actually take advantage of that, cheap TV's don't do HDR justice. Transfers, well that subjective, somethings will annoy people more than others. I replaced my entire collection (if available) with 4K, nope, wasn't cheap, but movies are my main form of entertainment. I have 0 subscriptions to any streaming service. I purchase a lot of movies from overseas as they are not available locally, and that is the real killer expense wise, but what can you do. No regrets.
If you look closely, it's not really about the film itself anymore, but more emphasis is placed on the higher resolution of 4K and which label can get the most out of it. Even the packaging has become more important and that makes me think about it, and yes the product will not be cheaper in 2025, depending on how strong the fear is among people that they'll miss out on something at the entrance. I am of the opinion that you simply go back to why you are doing the hobby in the first place, when in the beginning it was all about the film and not necessarily the comparison of which has the better picture quality, which is why many people prefer to go for DVD and Blu-ray instead of dealing with 4K UHD, where you can quickly lose track.
Completely disagree. HDR is the leap forward with the 4K format, not the resolution increase, which is well in the land of diminishing returns, especially if you sit too far back from your TV to see all the detail, which most people do. HDR on a high quality 4K display is amazing, though.
Yes and no, leaning a bit more towards the latter. 4K Blu-ray lately has gotten way too expensive, and then the quality control is horrible (ex. freezing issues), and lastly as you’ve mentioned when it comes to older movies getting a 4K treatment, you’re gambling to see if you’re getting a superb transfer like 2001: A Space Odyssey and most of the catalog titles from Sony or you're getting a heavy DNR mess of a transfer like True Lies and The Bourne Identity. A bit of an unpopular opinion here, but I’m pretty content going with digital media on Apple TV (formerly iTunes). Yes I know the audio isn’t as amazing and yes you don’t truly own your digital purchases, but it’s way more cost-effective for my financial scenario and the picture most of the time is surprisingly just as solid as a 4K or 1080p disc.
Currently, i have almost 700 4ks in my collection Something i learned from when i started collecting in 2018 and now is i dont need everything on 4K just like i wont get everything on bluray Sometimes a newer bluray is good but the older transfers like when bluray first started or older movies, i definitely want a 4K like The Searchers or The Terminator Really up to personal preference as some studios are only putting out the 4K without the bluray and leaving out alot of special features like with Rio Bravo or East of Eden
I saw 2001 space odyssey win it first came out. I still don't understand why people phraise it. Tp me it one of the most boringly long garbage of a movie that I regret seeing. If I could got my money back I left in the middle of it. Through I was always hoping in would get better. The boredom was in line with the color purple at a friend's house it bad I wrnt for a walk in a neighborhood I knew nothing about. The boring movie that was equally boring was Sparkle they put that on next. Till this day avoid all 3 moves. They're were other but those are the ones that immediately comes to mind. 4k could help those movies. May because of a better quality picture but still boring as hell. I personally like 4k but they're too over priced for me. I alway wait till price comes down, if not I'll try to get it pre-owned.
It’s because you’re used to the over saturated picture on blu rays which makes for an inaccurate picture presentation. Doesn’t mean it’s bad picture quality for what it is. But you have to understand that 4K UHD is not only about enhancing picture quality, but to also make it accurate to the source material. Another important note, is to have your TV settings setup by a professional or at least look up some videos explaining how to accurately calibrate your TV. Then you will have an amazing picture. I used to think the same about it, but when I’ve done my research and learned more about it, things began to be more clear to me and understanding.
@@paulconway384 It’s fine to stick to blu rays, but it doesn’t mean you have to forget about 4K. If it’s too expensive, you can look for upgrading sometime later.
They re-release movies that you can get for 2 or 3 Euros on Blu-ray for 30 or 40 Euros..
IMO this is crazy.. Keep your old versions and save the money
With a good oled tv and a good player like the ub820 , yes it's worth it if you can get them on sale. Most of them also come with a regular blu ray version as well which you can keep or sell to recoop some of the money difference. The audio is generally better than regular blu ray and the visual quality is generally better, although some better than others.
I try to buy 4k when on sale , I’ll invest in Blu Rays if 4k are stupid price
😊😊😊😊😊😊 great video.
I started buying 4k a little in 2024 but love my dvd and Blu-ray because it cheaper buy
4k is eye candy, and I love it
I own a 65" in sceen tv
If you consider purchasing a movie as an "investment" in your cinema library of movies you love, I can not recommend enough.
I only buy blurays if there's no 4k.
Blu-rays are still great btw and is the new standard imo.
I buy most 4ks on sale but "invest" in some special releases like Arrow Video's Hellraiser Tetralogy.
Dvds only if not on Blu-ray or 4k.
Great video Jamie n happy new year
When they get the transfer right 4k is far superior that 10bit color hdr on a high end tv is eye candy, twister was amazing atmos blew me away
If I would have a 4k player I would only buy specific titles like "The Fugitive" which had a horrible blu-ray transfer. I would also buy 4k movies that are filmed on IMAX (Nolan movies), but for now I'm content with blu-ray. I've heard the 4k discs are scratched easily which I think is a major disadvantage compared to blu-ray. Blu-ray has a protective coating on the data side. For now, I can't afford 4k. Good vid Jamie!
I love how you will apologize for even the slightest most harmless of off color remarks. You are a very nice person, and that's rare these days. Don't ever change.
Great video, I'm looking forward to the 4K Captain Kronos: Vampire Hunter from HAMMER HORROR! 😊
Movies with Bad 4K Transfers:
True Lies
Terminator 2
Pirates of the Caribbean 1
Star Wars Episodes 1, 4, 5, & 6
Lord of the Rings Trilogy
Planes, Trains, & Automobiles
Will you do a video on your thoughts on the Switch 2? Thanks, love your content!
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I like this video a lot thank you.
I tend only to collect titles that I have seen & which I enjoy. I also only collect movies which are on the 4K format, as they are the definitive edition of the movie. And from an artistic & collectors standpoint, I gravitate towards steelbooks. This is just the way I collect… But I do only purchase 10-12 titles per year, as I’m quite minimalist as far as collectors go; So the price isn’t a huge issue for me! 👍
I have no planson collecting 4K, it was only a few years back I even started buying Blu, for me it is not about how clear a movie looks or sounds, it is about the story the reason I watch the movie to begin with.
I'm 50 and been collecting since I was around about 16-17 having started with VHS, and then I upgraded to DvD (which I was happy to do) and then I updated my favourite movies to BluRay (which I was happy to do) - I'm NOT updating to 4K as I don't see the point as 6K/8K could be just around the corner - and even then I probably won't upgrade yet again as it's not as if I have a hundred inch tv, so it's not necessary.
I still buy DvD's on a regular basis as I'm perfectly happy with that format.
I have a Projector and a 100 inch screen and most of my DVDs look fine off it
DVD is more than sufficient for the older films if you ask me, that's why it is still my most preferred medium today :)
There is definitely enough of a quality difference in blu ray vs. DVD to make it worth the upgrade, but the difference between blu ray and 4K just doesn't seem worth a re-purchase, especially with the high prices they're asking for 4K discs...
DVD was leaps & bounds above VHS so were happy buying those with some favorites on BR. The annoying thing is a lot of DVDs are now just vanilla releases with no extras, which forces you to buy Blu Ray as a film buff. Really not fussed about 4k, especially with all the re-mastering/tinkering going on. DVD/BR quality is enough for me.
That’s truth just got a projector and most dvds look better then 4K streaming in some cases , watched a 4K stream of Intersteller then switched to Blu-ray version
And it looked way better , all IMAX scenes are intact .@@trevormaurer3684
I agree with you on that, but I am one of these people that wants to get my everything while it’s still in print as cheap as I can and take care of it and even if I have to buy it from Amazon global I will get it. I start 4K collecting this year because my Blu-ray were acting up. It’s starting picture calling I did sell my blue case starting to crack. My Blu-ray disc cases were starting to crack and Louis were so my Blu-ray disc quit a long time and my TV started doing the same thing so it wasn’t a matter of should I do it or not I was future proofing myself.
Blu-ray + Mcable is more than good enough for me. I can buy 3 blu rays at the cost of one 4k
Good talk. I do agree with up to the individual going to upgrade or not. My thoughts are blu-ray will still be strong in sales. Big difference from original dvd to blu-ray , and from blu-ray to 4k vary. Some 4k are great where as some are same or worse on 4k. Some of my favorite movies I upgraded from dvd to blu-ray and very happy. They are other movies I did get to 4k, but only when prices are low. Other movies I’ve seen on Netflix and decide I like it enough, I will get it on 4k when its less then $25. I do watch other channels to help me decide if I should or not get it on 4k. Also, most 4k players will upscale older format. I’ve watched a blu-ray on older blu-ray player, then turn around and play same blu-ray on 4k player, movie looks better.
Also remember, you can find used movies at theft stores, just check disc is not scratched.
Happy new year!
I need advice on the 4K which is quality,and so to get "bang for buck" I keep my ear to the ground
The HMV exclusive blu-ray remasters of LOTR fixes the issues from the standard and 4k blu-ray releases making it the best option.
I only intend on getting the 4ks that are OBJECTIVELY the best way to watch the movie or show, where the conversion is actually good and make they watch the superior and ultimate version to experience, like the alien conversion and such, same goes fr the films I love that have TERRIBLE 4ks, o will just not get it
Bringing out the dead is one of my favorite movies, and I just started buying blu-rays and it went out of print several months ago. I ended up buying one on eBay for $130 😅. Technically with $65 but the seller was selling Chinatown also both for $130 so I bought it because other sellers were offering over a hundred just for the movie. I don't even want to talk about how much money I've spent on out of print anime. That's the only thing that has wrecked my budget, I wish stuff didn't go out of print.
4K is awesome, but unless it's a movie I really love and know I'll watch repeatedly, the higher quality picture usually isn't worth the extra money compared to the cheaper blu ray that looks almost as good...
Short answer: yes
In almost all instances I’ve seen, a 4K remaster on standard Blu-ray looks just as good or better than the HDR 4K version. I’m watching on a 115” 2.35:1 projection screen, so it’s not like my screen is too small to notice a difference. I understand that HDR on projectors isn’t ideal, so this colors my opinion. Resolution (perceived sharpness and contrast) between the two are negligible, though.
I think it’s worth it. I want the best quality available. I only buy blu ray if it’s not available on 4K. I will buy DVD if that’s the only physical format it’s available from. So my preference is
1. 4K blu ray
2. Blu ray
3. DVD
In terms of pricing a new 4K blu ray release. Here in the UK it’s about £24.99 for a standard 4K blu ray. For a new digital 4K movie it’s £19.99. So the price difference isn’t that different.
Blu ray is truly the superior format. It’s bright and crisp on virtually any OLED, LED or HD TV. Blu rays are much, much cheaper to buy and collect now. They have the protective coating on them, to make them last for decades. 4K discs do, too, but the 4K format is much, much more of an “acquired taste”. On average, the quality of the 4k scan is only about 20-30% better than the comparative blu ray scan (sourced from the same transfer). And, what kind of TV you have and how well you’ve calibrated that TV matters soooo much more with 4Ks. It’s technically a higher quality format, yes, but the devil is always in the details.
And, by the way, 4K is not a “new format” anymore. It’s been around for 8 years now. It just didn’t take hold the way that DVD and Blu Ray did.
100% worth it for HDR/Dolby Vision alone. Of course you have to have a set up that can actually take advantage of that, cheap TV's don't do HDR justice. Transfers, well that subjective, somethings will annoy people more than others. I replaced my entire collection (if available) with 4K, nope, wasn't cheap, but movies are my main form of entertainment. I have 0 subscriptions to any streaming service. I purchase a lot of movies from overseas as they are not available locally, and that is the real killer expense wise, but what can you do. No regrets.
If you look closely, it's not really about the film itself anymore, but more emphasis is placed on the higher resolution of 4K and which label can get the most out of it. Even the packaging has become more important and that makes me think about it, and yes the product will not be cheaper in 2025, depending on how strong the fear is among people that they'll miss out on something at the entrance.
I am of the opinion that you simply go back to why you are doing the hobby in the first place, when in the beginning it was all about the film and not necessarily the comparison of which has the better picture quality, which is why many people prefer to go for DVD and Blu-ray instead of dealing with 4K UHD, where you can quickly lose track.
Completely disagree. HDR is the leap forward with the 4K format, not the resolution increase, which is well in the land of diminishing returns, especially if you sit too far back from your TV to see all the detail, which most people do. HDR on a high quality 4K display is amazing, though.
Yes and no, leaning a bit more towards the latter. 4K Blu-ray lately has gotten way too expensive, and then the quality control is horrible (ex. freezing issues), and lastly as you’ve mentioned when it comes to older movies getting a 4K treatment, you’re gambling to see if you’re getting a superb transfer like 2001: A Space Odyssey and most of the catalog titles from Sony or you're getting a heavy DNR mess of a transfer like True Lies and The Bourne Identity. A bit of an unpopular opinion here, but I’m pretty content going with digital media on Apple TV (formerly iTunes). Yes I know the audio isn’t as amazing and yes you don’t truly own your digital purchases, but it’s way more cost-effective for my financial scenario and the picture most of the time is surprisingly just as solid as a 4K or 1080p disc.
Currently, i have almost 700 4ks in my collection
Something i learned from when i started collecting in 2018 and now is i dont need everything on 4K just like i wont get everything on bluray
Sometimes a newer bluray is good but the older transfers like when bluray first started or older movies, i definitely want a 4K like The Searchers or The Terminator
Really up to personal preference as some studios are only putting out the 4K without the bluray and leaving out alot of special features like with Rio Bravo or East of Eden
No hate but 700n4k and you said you don't need everything on 4k??? LMFAO
@goldau856 what'd funny is i didn't pay full price on any of them lol. There are over 2-3K 4K titles. Each of us are on our own journey
Regarding the T2 4K, the most egregious thing to me was actually the color change. It's just dreadful.
And some of us are dopes, and we collect every format.
I speak from experience, do not dip your toes into CED…it’s a money pit 🤣
Im not buying a 4k player until my blu ray player breaks, and only if my regular dvds/ blu rays can play on it, also they need to be under 10 dollars.
Blue rays are king
Blu-ray is cool too.
No need to apologize for criticizing Sony’s CEO.
Hot doggin, grand standing. Jp
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There isn't a good version of the extended editions of LOTR, especially Fellowship of the Ring.
I saw 2001 space odyssey win it first came out. I still don't understand why people phraise it. Tp me it one of the most boringly long garbage of a movie that I regret seeing. If I could got my money back I left in the middle of it. Through I was always hoping in would get better. The boredom was in line with the color purple at a friend's house it bad I wrnt for a walk in a neighborhood I knew nothing about. The boring movie that was equally boring was Sparkle they put that on next. Till this day avoid all 3 moves. They're were other but those are the ones that immediately comes to mind. 4k could help those movies. May because of a better quality picture but still boring as hell. I personally like 4k but they're too over priced for me. I alway wait till price comes down, if not I'll try to get it pre-owned.
I don't see the point of 4K when they all look darker and the colours look teal. Plus they freeze up.
Haven’t had that problem. Check settings on tv and on your 4k player, mine has settings on the player if needed.
It’s because you’re used to the over saturated picture on blu rays which makes for an inaccurate picture presentation. Doesn’t mean it’s bad picture quality for what it is. But you have to understand that 4K UHD is not only about enhancing picture quality, but to also make it accurate to the source material. Another important note, is to have your TV settings setup by a professional or at least look up some videos explaining how to accurately calibrate your TV. Then you will have an amazing picture. I used to think the same about it, but when I’ve done my research and learned more about it, things began to be more clear to me and understanding.
@@AlSumait I believe you need an Oled to get the best from 4K. I'm fine with Bluray.
@@paulconway384 It’s fine to stick to blu rays, but it doesn’t mean you have to forget about 4K. If it’s too expensive, you can look for upgrading sometime later.
They don't all look darker and teal unless your display isn't calibrated and/or you haven't chosen the right video options in your 4K player's menu.
No. They cost too much and the quality control is still terrible.
Lord of the rings had a terrible 4k transfer
No it didn’t.
On a small tv with shitty settings maybe but with a great setup it's fantastic.