I’m a new drone flyer from USA all I Gotta say is your information has been awesome you’re awesome I hope you get millions of views and millions of subs thanks pal cheers from America
This is exactly the case ! More and more people struggle at even a 100m at times I see because they do not understand how they work properly, now these drones in the UK especially can be flown in urban areas and close to people this makes the situation a bit more serious so hopefully this helps whoever sees it! 😊
Great performance from the Super Yagis my wife bought me for Christmas, so thanks Gavin. I thought it might help your subs to know how they work and perform best: They may not look much, but are parasitic reflector and director elements which work with the existing driven element on your controller to form the array, cut to resonant lengths and spaced harmonically along a boom. They only take a couple of seconds to deploy as an effective answer to attenuation when flying low above wet trees or fog, near metal structures, or through wi-fi interference (or at extended range). The parasitic elements increase sensitivity to the downlink signal, and directivity by focussing the uplink beam. In 3-d, the signal strength has roughly the shape of a single-scoop ice-cream cone, about 50° wide with its axis - where the signal is strongest - along the boom. There is some leakage of signal to the sides, but almost no signal more than 45° from the axis or behind the reflector elements - so the beam is really narrow. The beam is polarised, so it will perform very poorly if the drone (which has monopole antennae that mainly radiate and receive horizontally) is more than 45° from the plane of the controller. It will perform poorly if the drone is on its side relative to the controller. So yagis are unsuitable for FPV drones. If the drone is close to being above or below you, you will lose signal and have to flip the yagi elements off and point the controller at the drone in the usual way to regain the C2 (Command and Control) link. The final consideration is selectivity. The spectrum analysis diagram (seen in Gavin's video) is probably not measuring the video downlink, but the Noise to Signal Ratio for C2. It is not clear whether that is for the uplink or downlink, nor whether the depicted interference is measured at the drone or the controller - or compiled from both. Normally, Auto selects the best channel for C2, but if the link is lost my understanding is that the controller and drone hop to a channel with a workable N to S Ratio (Gavin thinks otherwise, btw, but my understanding from a DJI article on Ocusync is that it just improves the controller image for FPV by dynamically changing baud rate and synchronising screen resolution and reducing interference by orthogonal spacing of side-bands). IMO, manual selection would prevent channel hopping, so it would normally be a bad idea. BUT: A yagi array is tuned to a specific carrier, and is much less efficient for other frequencies, so selecting the channel to which the yagi is tuned will give a much stronger C2 signal. So if Gavin is right, you will need the yagis in place and pointing at the drone when manually selecting the channel to see which is best. If I am right, Auto selection will find the best channel in flight - when it needs to - anyway. Summary: Yagis amplify uplink and downlink; They are tuned for a specific channel; A yagi beam is only about 50° wide; Point the yagi at the drone if manually selecting a channel - or just leave it on auto selection; Don't use yagis if the drone is overhead or beneath you, they make the link worse if they are not used close to the horizontal plane. I hope this is helpful.
Well that saves me a job! Brilliant explanation thank you very kindly ! I try to not get into the technicality of it for the purpose of RUclips I tend to just say these work to this distance as it's what people understand! Thank you for taking the time to write all of this and I am so glad you are happy with them!
Wow that was alot to take in but you have done extensive testing with these and I can say being a mini 1 owner say your absolutely spot on. As you said if you fly further there is also a chance of not being able to return home which could be completely embarrassing 🤦♂️. Take 5 mins to Understand your transmission set up, and things just get a whole lot better with the mini. Thanks Gav.
Thanks Richard I really appreciate that, in my videos I try to cut out my opinion and give facts only, I have done countless tests therefore I am best placed I think to give decent advise for those that want it, appreciate the video is slightly longer but for any new Mavic mini pilots who suffer from bad range hopefully this helps! Thanks for watching 👍
Thank you Gavin...I've learned a lot from you. I'm really new to the world of drones. I actually purchased a Mavic Mini combo pack from a work colleague who was upgrading to a bigger drone. I got it really cheap and it was in perfect condition...I got it mainly to take out whilst mountain biking in the moors since it's so small it fits in my backpack perfectly. I've actually had it a few weeks before I had a go at flying it because I wasn't that bothered...Since my first flight...I just want to fly it all the time and if it's good to fly (UAV Forecast) I will fly it...I love it!
You're most welcome thank you very much for watching! Yep one of those impulse buys but when you use it you love it! I get that totally. One little tip - UAV forecast is a good guide however airdata UAV app is actually better and you can sync it with DJI fly so you can see all of your flights in s lot more detail - the weather reporting on that all is actually a bit more accurate than uav forecast also. Hope that helps!
Great video really clear on the info and easy to understand 👍 I'm a new pilot and managed 1060meters today for the first time with my parayagi's. Could of gone further but chickened out, next target for me is 1500meters once the wind has settled a little.
Thank you very much! Always nice to hear a success story 😊 fly safely and responsibly and you will learn that the drone is very good and always comes back !
I always fly in really remote areas where I'm familiar with whats around i.e. farms, power lines, woods so I know that I can get a clear path back to RTH without hitting anything. The more I learn the more im impressed👍🏼
Thank you! Indeed I've covered them all I think numerous times so I figured I would use that experience to help ☺️ I've had so many positive comments on Facebook and still come people don't realise the bars represent interference and not signal strength so overall a huge positive !
Well after 4 years of owning a Mini I just finally got a Mini 2. FCC ver channel 165 works the best. Yagi’s or ParaYagi’s about the same. Recently hacked the Mini and have gone up a good 3500 feet straight up. Thinking about selling it but I’m not going to get much.
Yeah they work well also I have some for the mini 2 - increased range in an urban area, never tested them in a non urban - no point the drone did 4k on a 5.8ghz channel before it was battery limited
Great Pal, i have one since one month ago, and dont wanna migrate to mini 2, cause i found a problem with the lipo batt, on mini 2, when reach 20% this drain too fast, very fast, and mini 1, when reach 0%, got about 1 o 2 mins to land or take back from 200 mts aprox., just 4 that reason, dont need 10 kms or occusync, where i fly dont have almost any Tx issues, Greetings from Oaxaca, Mexico.
I love the fact my videos reach all over he world! Greetings! 100% I have mentioned this a few times, it is the characteristic of the lipo battery, they discharge so fast at the end you are right, the Mavic mini batteries discharge nice and evenly ! Thank you for watching! Happy flying
Hi mate. Thank you for your videos your the only one that gives great information. Im trying to fpv my mini2 but don't want to spend a Fortune on dji goggles. Im ordering skyview TS16 goggles and would really like to know if this will work with chromecaster?.
Thank you kindly Colin, as.much as the video production value may not of been brilliant as I was just starting out the actual tests and content was thorough!
lots of people think enhanced wifi is terrible but it really isn't that bad, of course, ocusync is a million times better but as long as it is on a secure channel you should be able to get as far as you would realistically go 1 - 3 km ( some people might fly further but I just wouldn't have the guts to ).
I still don't even think ocusync is that much better, it's a slightly stronger signal with dynamic switching, if you get the right channel as you say the Mavic mini is more than good enough
Can I buy the it separately and then combine the or do I have to buy parayagis that already are combined Because it’s much cheaper to buy the reflection thing and the metal thing separately
Hey. I want to buy my first drone for casual flying. I live in India, here, Mavic Mini fly more combo is priced at 525 US dollar, Mini 2 SE combo at 730 US Dollar and Mini 3 combo at 1000 US Dollar. Considering the above prices, do u think, Mavic Mini is a better deal over Mini 2 SE???? or should I go for Mini 2 SE only.Sadly, Mini 2 is not available.
Just got a MA2 (haven't had time to fly it yet due to bad weather) and first thing I did was I ordered a Yagi. Since the Mini 2 uses the same controller have you had any success using a Yagi at all? Won't fly without one when I use my Mini.
Wow. From what I've discovered is that the further I go out I have to continue raising my altitude in order to get the best connection. Were you able to maintain the 400 feet all the way out at 23K foot mark?
I used manual transmission and ended up the controller and drone wouldn’t pair, had to go back to DJI for repair. DJI admin confirmed to me on forum that using manual transmission in heavily congested areas can cause this issue, so why put the option on if not to be used in congested areas 😮
I have one Question, if you can made a video about how many hours lasts motors, on drone valley channel, he said is almost eternal, and about how many hours we must change propellers, per example, if i check screws to tight propellers, locktite lose the glue funtion? and i have to change a spare screw? cuz if i tight, i dont wanna lose for that reason my drone.
Hi mate, I thought about it the other day actually but it costs like £40 a month to set them up as it's me that sells them, compared to what they cost me it'd just not viable to set that up I am afraid. However the Amazon shop is all sold by Amazon it's just products I suggest I in s helpful place
hello Gavin , Thanks for your very informative videos . I fly mostly in open countryside , my question is , would the mavic mini choose a good strong connection in open countryside . Thank you . Bill .
@@GAVINHR Thanks for your reply Gavin . Im up here in Cumbria so nearly always well away from people and dwellings . Ive just bought the mavic mini and missed out on the care and refresh deal because I couldnt figure out the new pass word they kept sending me , After many tries I got locked out for 24 hours then when I was able to try again I was told I was too late . What a carry on . Im a bit dumb regarding drones , so can I take it that every time I turn the drone on in a different location it will find a signal for that new location ? sorry to be a pain . thanks . Bill .
Not a pain at all Bill, yes that is correct everytime you turn it on it will search for the best channel to be on to give the best connection. By the way did you see my video on DJI care refresh Vs Coverdrone? Give it a watch.. you will find coverdrone is a much much better option all round!
I tried to switch my mini se from auto to manual in transmission mode. It fried my drone and would not pair with controller. I’ve sent it back for a replacement. Any idea why?
copper or aluminium there is only 1 percent difference in sigal reception its not a big deal...how ever when you do an antenna mod both antennas are identical in dji remote this is maybe why there is such poor frequency ...
How much is possible to extend Mini 3 Pro's range? I got my drone one week ago, my longest distances have been 800 m outside of the city and 400 m in the city. Looking for range extenders not only for better range but stable signal. I use RC N1.
Sadly it’s not really possible to extend range on an ocusync drone as the whole point is it can switch to keep a strong signal, it does however often get it wrong so fixing the frequency may well help depending where you are flying
You're welcome, I have tested a Yagi extender for the mini 2 in that video I explain why it isn't a good idea to use them then at least you know why - it's a bit too long to type 😊
Who the hell is so stupid to thumbs down this video!?!?!? Wtf, I don't get it, such a good, informative video... Sweet Keep well and be safe Gavin! 😁🇧🇬🛸
Ivan you would be amazed sir. Sometimes I have no idea why people put them. When I get thumbs down it really used to bug me, sadly now I accept it is part of RUclips. I would rather somebody write in the comments what they don't like ... But they never so. I try my best to give fair and informative videos yet still I get thumbs down. Thanks man I appreciate it
The one that really bothered me was the wind test between the Mavic mini and mini 2. I put them through a test where I could give firm results by fixing the camera on s set point I proved the wind speed and put them side by side. I couldn't of done a more fair test - some others just put a drone up and say it's good at handling wind. I gave a quantifiable result and still I got thumbs down
@@GAVINHR do you perhaps remember when did it start happening? Because my channel is tiny, 150 Subscribers or something, and so far I have 0 thumbs down! So I think it has to do with when your channel grows and your videos start to get suggested to people who aren't subscribed and some of them are probably just jealous or I'm not sure.. I mean I don't ever put thumbs down on anyone's video, I always just write what I think is wrong.. Very strange why RUclips chose to even implement them, thumbs up is OK if you don't like it just watch something else, no need for hate... Anyway... You know your subscribers will always be on your side and always comment if we think something different to you.. You have a very nice channel, I still can't believe how fast you guys grow your channels! But then again, I'm not trying to grow my channel, I just upload so I can have them videos forever online... I use RUclips as free Hard drive, lol... Keep well and be safe Gavin.. 😁🇧🇬🛸
@@GAVINHR yeah, I'm actually sure it has to be some kind of Bots or some Trolls that are just basically Haters who are just very very jealous of something for some unknown reason! I mean so many people watch your videos, and they are really helpful.. So it really makes no sense to me why you'd get thumbs down! The more I think about it the more I realize that there really is no reason for dislike toward your videos... Unless these idiots actually dislike you for some reason, then no matter what you upload they will always thumbs down your work.. Sweet Keep well and be safe Gavin! 🇧🇬🛸😁
That is my feelings also.. I would never dislike a video, if I liked it then I'd give s thumbs up - if not I would just switch off but that's me personally. Also... To be honest when it comes to bots, I have wondered this before as I have seen dislikes disappear - on one video my dislikes went down after a few days and I thought this was very strange
Absolutely AWESOME!!! Dude, bro, seriously this video is super awesome! :) I've found out a way to properly hack the Mavic Mini controller so that it always runs in FCC mode! It's complicated somewhat, but it involves logging on to the controller via Ethernet cable and IP address, then via q console you change a parameter in a configuration file! I'll make sure to first get this USB 2.0 to Ethernet adapter cable and I'll be able to try it! Sweet 😁🔜🛸
Thanks Ivan, I literally don't think I can explain any of these better than what I have in this video, FYI incase I sounded odd I am actually quite unwell at the moment so I actually struggled - I have some super amazing videos coming up but I am just staying in the house at the moment so I thought this would be ideal to make. Thanks for watching as always mate! Enjoyed the flight over the football pitch earlier!
Hi Ivan . Would love to hear your solution mate. Remember me, I'm from Cape Town 😉 Hope you get well Gavin. Love your videos and always follow. Chins up!
@@apkossowski it's not actually my solution, I just just found out about it today. I really really wanna try it, but have to gets me that cable firsty.. Watch this: ruclips.net/video/imTMj2QtIYw/видео.html Sweet
Gavin, hello from Texas. I just bought a DJI Mini SE, does all this apply the same as the Mavic mini, so all i would need is your super yagi and nothing else ? Also is there something i can do to increase my video range as well, i would like to be able to FPV as far as the drone can go. Thanks, Roost
Hi there! Yes all the information is applicable for the mini SE HOWEVER range extenders such as will not have the same effect, you see in the US you get the higher levels of FCC power and a much more powerful 5.8ghz output, basically meaning that I would advise at this stage a simple set of parabolic reflectors for about $10 at this stage and see how you get on as those should be more than enough for you, fix it on a 5.8 channel and you should get a very good signal
@@GAVINHR thanks man, I noticed amazon has these combo deals that come w both. 10 bucks just seems too cheap to me, does anybody make some really quality ones. So you wouldn't recommend your super yagi
@@Hugeroost So my superyagi is tuned to the 2.4ghz frequency only and will not work on 5.8 - because you in the US have a much stronger 5.8ghz output you need to take advantage of that, the cheap parabolics WILL work just fine but if you want to spend more money and get the mirror / yagi combo then you need to get a set for the 5.8ghz (basically the rods are shorter) hope that helps!
hi gav i got my mini2 for xmas i havent switched it on yet,i wonder who do you insure with? refresh doesnt seem that great to me whats your view please bud
Hi Barry, there will be a channel announcement coming soon but coverdrone is about the best insurer out there! Both on policy and what they cover a s reputation!
Hi I need some help as ive only had my drone for over 2 weeks first thing is when I fly my mini 2 does the frequency need be on Duel or 2.8ghz or 5.ghz in a built up area as I live in a village as some times the signal drops to orange some times and wanted to know do these lagi boosters help too and all so wich is best frequency to get out a bit further flying I would appreciate your advice thanks as ive watched your videos plus I'm in uk
@GAVINHR will using this make any difference as here in uk I was flying my drone in a built up housing estate I noticed a signal drop to orange not all the time thanks
@GAVINHR thanks for your help plus some one said leave it duel so I will give this a try plus it did say when I got my dji mini 2 se says range 10km wich is 6 miles I won't do it tbh but if I wanted to go further 5.8ghz be OK thanks for your help
Hi, in this video I am covering mini 1 only as I still have many people who view the channel for the mini 1! Will have a cool led strobe video on the mini 2 in s couple of days 😊
You're completely right, but it seems plenty of people are flying in more urban areas and losing signal after 100m so hopefully this helps those out 😊 already had a few comments regarding people it realising the bars indicate interference and not signal strength so it's done it's job
@@GAVINHR yeah I ordered some for 5.8 as I’m mainly in the urban areas but I’ll get the superyagi for 2.4 as the place I fly is in the middle of no where and I can fly for ages
Maybe one side of the antenna should be 2.4ghz antenna length and the other side 5.8ghz antenna length, so you can use occusync the most effectively, instead of only 2.4ghz or 5.8ghz.
Love your Chanel, Iv recently just got a mini mavic to test out for abit of fun, I can see your range is great but I’m struggling to get any range Iv tried startrc yogi 2.4 and I’m only getting 753 meters what would you recommend do you think your SUPERYAGI would be better (wish I see your Chanel before I ordered the once I have from eBay) any advice would be great thanks
@@GAVINHRI have put it in manual and put on the lowest green bar no 4 , I have tried again and got 927meters at 73m high. Would you say your superyagi copper would be better if so I would give them a go
Hi John, they are set to 2.4 only in this design. What I will say but offer no guarantees is in my testing with both the superyagi and parayagi even though they are designed for non urban environments they actually perform well in a city due to the signal being so strong.
Nice video Gavin, Is there any solution for mini 2 altitude restriction.....the country frm where I belong, there is a altitude restriction for 15 meteres.....so any solution
Good day, sadly not! I wish I had good news for you however are you in India? I have heard about the 15m rule in that country unfortunately it is set within the DJI software , whether you could do some sort of hack regarding a fake GPS location you could make the drone think you are in a county with no restrictions?
Hi mate, post it all you like my friend ! My channel is all about helping others, I assume you mean the modded FCC hacked app? I have no problem sharing information so please do ,🙂
I was absolutely amazed that your Mavic Mini picked up Auto Transmission 2.4ghz channel when they are all red and full of interference! I say this because my Mavic Mini has never done this, it has never ever chosen 2.4ghz in Auto! Even in the mountains, when I was visiting my parents for Christmas and new year it still Auto chose 5.8ghz as it always does for me.. But I've also never flown it in an open area without any interference.. Sweet 😁🔜🛸
@Ivan Jdrakov Lower frequency radio waves are less attenuated, less prone to dead-spots from destructive interference from reflections, and skip over obstacles better. So you can get a workable signal in the face of more interference and at greater distance with a low frequency, but a higher frequency can carry more data. Radio always involves some trade-off of factors affecting workability, so the selection can seem counterintuitive.
@@lindsayheyes925 yes you are absolutely correct... The thing is that 2.4ghz is very very proune to interference in the City where I live. When I set my Mavic Mini to 2.4ghz I get about 50m to 100m maximum distance flying from my balcony! If I use 5.8ghz I'm able to get to 250m even 300m! That's why I use the FCC Hack and my homemade parabolic reflectors and that gives me over 1.1km distance with 5.8ghz.. 2.4ghz can't be FCC Hacked, but 2.4ghz with parabolic reflectors gives me not much better results than 2.4ghz without reflectors.. So I've found the best for flying over a city is certainly the FCC Hack and some other antenna mod, like Yagis or parabolic reflectors.. These days I fly my Mavic Mini without the FCC Hack as I use the latest Fly App, but with 5.8ghz and my homemade parabolic reflectors I get over 700m, but I only usually fly to less than 300m these days because of bad weather... Sweet 🔜🛸
@@ivanjdrakov1957 I see what you mean. Flying from a balcony in a city, you probably have thousands of Wi-Fi emitters within your operating range, including above and below you. The ones giving you a problem are likely to be very close to your balcony, signal decay being non-linear. Many of them will be at fixed locations, or habitually used in one place. That gives you an opportunity to find a dead-spot where interference from a transmitter is cancelled out by reflection or diffraction, or where it is attenuated by structural metal. Dead-spots can be very small, but worth seeking out. If that fails try and find a time of day when the interference is less. My home Wi-Fi changes from ultrafast to unworkable at predictable times as the band-width is taken up by other users, so they must be lighting up the ether. There are Wi-Fi analyser apps which can help identify the strength of signals near you. I hope this helps and I'm not telling my grandmother how to suck eggs.
@@lindsayheyes925 hahahaha, lol that's funny, grandma how to suck eggs.. Lol Anyway, yeah I just happen to already know everything you just mentioned here. And yes it's exactly like that, I mean you can check my channel and you'll see where I live and how many thousands of 2.4ghz wi-fi emitters there are around me.. My videos shows that I usually choose a flight path which I've already tested several times.. But yes it also depends on if anyone at any of these locations along my path is emitting some powerful wifi signals.. I like to have very good, at leat good video connection at all times, else I kinda freak out a bit! So that's why the furthest I've flown from my balcony is just over 1100m.. Without the FCC Hack and my homemade parabolic reflectors I was only getting 250m maximum distance before.. Sweet Keep well and be safe bro.... Wait, you're a girl!!! Wow.. Sweet 🔜🛸😁
@@ivanjdrakov1957 🤣😅😂😆 No definitely not a girl! I suspected that you knew a bit about it, but guessed that even if you already knew it all, others might not. Stay safe!
Thanks. I’ve used both types, yagi and Parabolic and haven’t noticed any real noticeable improvement on either my Mini or my Air 2. If they are such an improvement I would think DJI would build them in or at least market them. Both of them are Pie in the Sky or a marketers sales pitch, agin to Snake Oil. You see what you want to see. Not buying it.
Seems you are unfortunate sadly, feel free to check out my previous videos where I test them all against each other. They don't really work on ocusync such as the air 2 so no you won't see a difference on that one
@@GAVINHR Thanks Gavin for your quick response. Maybe I’m just having bad luck. Appears to have worked for you but no such luck for me. I’ve retired my mini and using my Air2. If they work why not with Occusync ? As always enjoy your coverage and value your opinions.
I think you should test the 5.8 GHz Super-Yagis, as you call them, in the same area as the area you tested the 2.4 GHz copper yagis, to compare the same initial range of 1450m against the Super-Yagis range if you can. It is not a fair test if you already get about 400m more range by changing location in the last two tests.
Sadly nick that's not possible, the extra range came from DJI improvements and firmware updates not the location difference, only some of the ranges are in videos I have done, the 4300m was the max I reached on multiple tests not just the one occasion and in at least 3 locations. DJI have updated the mini a lot and when I came to do the parayagi / superyagi test the mini in stock form gave 1910m which is the furthest it ever had.
@@GAVINHR True but still the test is still unfair since you get the 400m advantage from the improvements and updates you don't have in the first two tests. I am not interested about the range so much, but about the signal quality and the ability for a strong signal.
Oh no absolutely it's a fair comment, it puts me in a difficult position as all these tests were done previously when flying with spotters was possible whereas now if I try do range tests and publish them I will likely get nothing but grief for it. Next time I am filming in that location I will see what I can do to check it. However also with my experience whilst the max range was 4300m. There was signal breakup well before that point however with the more expensive of the two had the best signal strength, of course if you are flying closer the standard copper yagis will be just fine
Hi there! No, turning off WiFi or Bluetooth will have no effect on the signal you can leave it on, if you wish to turn it off to avoid notifications then that’s up to yourself but it’s not needed :)
@@GAVINHR cheers for the reply, just picked up a used Mavic mini for my 1st drone , I was looking at the Chinese f22s pro drones but seen this had 4000m on specs but I was reading the FCC version unaware that they make 2 versions lol , it'll connect to all my family members phones like pixel , Samsung , iPhone but not my Huawei do you know of any problems between DJI app and Huawei phones ?
You managed 4000 plus metres with the Yagis yet stated at the beginning that you should remember VLOS. You must have seriously good eyesight to see a Mini at 4km! Have you been ODing on carrots? That aside I learnt stuff about the use of frequencies.
Back then the RP didn't need to have visual eyes on the drone, you could use spotters that didn't have to be by the side of the operator. Those rules changed on 1st December 2021 all of this was recorded prior 😊
I’m a new drone flyer from USA all I Gotta say is your information has been awesome you’re awesome I hope you get millions of views and millions of subs thanks pal cheers from America
I'm pinning that comment ! Thank you very much ! I do try my best and I'm super glad you like the content and thank you for watching
@@GAVINHR thanks for all your knowledge. Cheers 🍻
Thumbs up for this video!
Very useful information and I'm sure it will help a lot of mini owers that struggle with the range even at shorter distances.
This is exactly the case ! More and more people struggle at even a 100m at times I see because they do not understand how they work properly, now these drones in the UK especially can be flown in urban areas and close to people this makes the situation a bit more serious so hopefully this helps whoever sees it! 😊
@@GAVINHR You know it!
Still managed 2 dislikes so far! RUclips is a confusing place 😂🤷
@@GAVINHR Yes it is.
@@GAVINHR Probably drone haters or bots
Great performance from the Super Yagis my wife bought me for Christmas, so thanks Gavin. I thought it might help your subs to know how they work and perform best:
They may not look much, but are parasitic reflector and director elements which work with the existing driven element on your controller to form the array, cut to resonant lengths and spaced harmonically along a boom.
They only take a couple of seconds to deploy as an effective answer to attenuation when flying low above wet trees or fog, near metal structures, or through wi-fi interference (or at extended range).
The parasitic elements increase sensitivity to the downlink signal, and directivity by focussing the uplink beam. In 3-d, the signal strength has roughly the shape of a single-scoop ice-cream cone, about 50° wide with its axis - where the signal is strongest - along the boom. There is some leakage of signal to the sides, but almost no signal more than 45° from the axis or behind the reflector elements - so the beam is really narrow.
The beam is polarised, so it will perform very poorly if the drone (which has monopole antennae that mainly radiate and receive horizontally) is more than 45° from the plane of the controller. It will perform poorly if the drone is on its side relative to the controller. So yagis are unsuitable for FPV drones. If the drone is close to being above or below you, you will lose signal and have to flip the yagi elements off and point the controller at the drone in the usual way to regain the C2 (Command and Control) link.
The final consideration is selectivity. The spectrum analysis diagram (seen in Gavin's video) is probably not measuring the video downlink, but the Noise to Signal Ratio for C2. It is not clear whether that is for the uplink or downlink, nor whether the depicted interference is measured at the drone or the controller - or compiled from both.
Normally, Auto selects the best channel for C2, but if the link is lost my understanding is that the controller and drone hop to a channel with a workable N to S Ratio (Gavin thinks otherwise, btw, but my understanding from a DJI article on Ocusync is that it just improves the controller image for FPV by dynamically changing baud rate and synchronising screen resolution and reducing interference by orthogonal spacing of side-bands). IMO, manual selection would prevent channel hopping, so it would normally be a bad idea.
BUT:
A yagi array is tuned to a specific carrier, and is much less efficient for other frequencies, so selecting the channel to which the yagi is tuned will give a much stronger C2 signal.
So if Gavin is right, you will need the yagis in place and pointing at the drone when manually selecting the channel to see which is best. If I am right, Auto selection will find the best channel in flight - when it needs to - anyway.
Summary:
Yagis amplify uplink and downlink;
They are tuned for a specific channel;
A yagi beam is only about 50° wide;
Point the yagi at the drone if manually selecting a channel - or just leave it on auto selection;
Don't use yagis if the drone is overhead or beneath you, they make the link worse if they are not used close to the horizontal plane.
I hope this is helpful.
Well that saves me a job! Brilliant explanation thank you very kindly ! I try to not get into the technicality of it for the purpose of RUclips I tend to just say these work to this distance as it's what people understand! Thank you for taking the time to write all of this and I am so glad you are happy with them!
That's some explanation!!
Quality..👍
Wow that was alot to take in but you have done extensive testing with these and I can say being a mini 1 owner say your absolutely spot on. As you said if you fly further there is also a chance of not being able to return home which could be completely embarrassing 🤦♂️. Take 5 mins to Understand your transmission set up, and things just get a whole lot better with the mini.
Thanks Gav.
Thanks Richard I really appreciate that, in my videos I try to cut out my opinion and give facts only, I have done countless tests therefore I am best placed I think to give decent advise for those that want it, appreciate the video is slightly longer but for any new Mavic mini pilots who suffer from bad range hopefully this helps! Thanks for watching 👍
Thank you Gavin...I've learned a lot from you. I'm really new to the world of drones. I actually purchased a Mavic Mini combo pack from a work colleague who was upgrading to a bigger drone. I got it really cheap and it was in perfect condition...I got it mainly to take out whilst mountain biking in the moors since it's so small it fits in my backpack perfectly. I've actually had it a few weeks before I had a go at flying it because I wasn't that bothered...Since my first flight...I just want to fly it all the time and if it's good to fly (UAV Forecast) I will fly it...I love it!
You're most welcome thank you very much for watching! Yep one of those impulse buys but when you use it you love it! I get that totally. One little tip - UAV forecast is a good guide however airdata UAV app is actually better and you can sync it with DJI fly so you can see all of your flights in s lot more detail - the weather reporting on that all is actually a bit more accurate than uav forecast also. Hope that helps!
@@GAVINHRThank you very much Gavin...I'm on it now 👍.
Great video really clear on the info and easy to understand 👍 I'm a new pilot and managed 1060meters today for the first time with my parayagi's. Could of gone further but chickened out, next target for me is 1500meters once the wind has settled a little.
Thank you very much! Perfect thing to do, start slow and gain confidence !
@@GAVINHR 1400meters yesterday, made a few tweaks from your tips and recommendations and didn't even get weak signal. Cheers Gav👍🏼
Thank you very much! Always nice to hear a success story 😊 fly safely and responsibly and you will learn that the drone is very good and always comes back !
I always fly in really remote areas where I'm familiar with whats around i.e. farms, power lines, woods so I know that I can get a clear path back to RTH without hitting anything. The more I learn the more im impressed👍🏼
Very Good and informative but what about the mini 2 can you make some for that controller and be able to still use a tablet
Great video as usual; you're right, no other channel has done anything near what you've done with range extenders
Thank you! Indeed I've covered them all I think numerous times so I figured I would use that experience to help ☺️ I've had so many positive comments on Facebook and still come people don't realise the bars represent interference and not signal strength so overall a huge positive !
Well after 4 years of owning a Mini I just finally got a Mini 2. FCC ver channel 165 works the best. Yagi’s or ParaYagi’s about the same. Recently hacked the Mini and have gone up a good 3500 feet straight up. Thinking about selling it but I’m not going to get much.
Very interesting thank you. I’ve just ordered some for my mavic air 2 from Amazon that use Occusync 2
Yeah they work well also I have some for the mini 2 - increased range in an urban area, never tested them in a non urban - no point the drone did 4k on a 5.8ghz channel before it was battery limited
@@GAVINHR I loose signal in the Lake District so I thought these may help. Have to test the distances before and after.
Great Pal, i have one since one month ago, and dont wanna migrate to mini 2, cause i found a problem with the lipo batt, on mini 2, when reach 20% this drain too fast, very fast, and mini 1, when reach 0%, got about 1 o 2 mins to land or take back from 200 mts aprox., just 4 that reason, dont need 10 kms or occusync, where i fly dont have almost any Tx issues, Greetings from Oaxaca, Mexico.
I love the fact my videos reach all over he world! Greetings! 100% I have mentioned this a few times, it is the characteristic of the lipo battery, they discharge so fast at the end you are right, the Mavic mini batteries discharge nice and evenly ! Thank you for watching! Happy flying
@@GAVINHR ty pal, i´ll suscribe, then i hopw yar remarks about maintenance, is so useful 4 us in Latinamerica
Hi mate. Thank you for your videos your the only one that gives great information. Im trying to fpv my mini2 but don't want to spend a Fortune on dji goggles. Im ordering skyview TS16 goggles and would really like to know if this will work with chromecaster?.
Great video Gav & especially handy tip about manually selecting the frequency 👍🏽. Subbed.
Thank you very much! Glad it helped
5000 metres? Wow
Have to purchase, best video out there for performance capabilities.. 👏
Thank you kindly Colin, as.much as the video production value may not of been brilliant as I was just starting out the actual tests and content was thorough!
Gavin if carlsberg made drone reviews they would come to you for advice 👍
Haha thank you kindly!
Absolutely brilliant information mate. I had no clue I could change the channels manually, ty. I'll be buying your extender as well, cheers.
You’re very welcome ☺️
Great channel!
Thank you!
Incredibly straight forward, helpful video with great research. Congrats!
Great info pal. Look forward to a catch up when the pandemic is over in 2024!
Realistic timescale Luke haha! Hurry up and get your studio finished !
lots of people think enhanced wifi is terrible but it really isn't that bad, of course, ocusync is a million times better but as long as it is on a secure channel you should be able to get as far as you would realistically go 1 - 3 km ( some people might fly further but I just wouldn't have the guts to ).
I still don't even think ocusync is that much better, it's a slightly stronger signal with dynamic switching, if you get the right channel as you say the Mavic mini is more than good enough
Can I buy the it separately and then combine the or do I have to buy parayagis that already are combined
Because it’s much cheaper to buy the reflection thing and the metal thing separately
No you can put them together yourself if you want with a bit of DIY :)
I understand these gizmos go on the r/c yet only the drone is shown in the video. How come?
Looking for help different kind of range. When I try to fly my mini in the back country, it won't fly past 100 ft because I'm "no network connection"
Hey. I want to buy my first drone for casual flying. I live in India, here, Mavic Mini fly more combo is priced at 525 US dollar, Mini 2 SE combo at 730 US Dollar and Mini 3 combo at 1000 US Dollar. Considering the above prices, do u think, Mavic Mini is a better deal over Mini 2 SE???? or should I go for Mini 2 SE only.Sadly, Mini 2 is not available.
Hey great vid, I just bought the para n the 2.4 yaggies can u put them both together
Yes you can Gareth !
Should these range extenders work with the DJI Mini 2
I have the parabolics, I should get a yagi and then put them together to get a stable connection
Absolutely! Even home made ones by drilling holes in the top of your parabolics work great !
Why on your Super Yagi is aluminum instead of copper like you mentioned, copper performed better
Just got a MA2 (haven't had time to fly it yet due to bad weather) and first thing I did was I ordered a Yagi. Since the Mini 2 uses the same controller have you had any success using a Yagi at all? Won't fly without one when I use my Mini.
Hi Craig - well when I did my test on the M2 The signal strength out performed the battery therefore even though I have one I have never used it yet
Wow. From what I've discovered is that the further I go out I have to continue raising my altitude in order to get the best connection. Were you able to maintain the 400 feet all the way out at 23K foot mark?
Thanks for the valuable feedback and hey I just noticed that you subscribed to my channel 👍
Hello @GAVINHR, so in the city, does it mean that we should pick a channel at 5.8Ghz with shortest green bar?
That’s absolutely correct yes!
Very good video ans drone points! Thank you 😊
Thank you very kindly!
I used manual transmission and ended up the controller and drone wouldn’t pair, had to go back to DJI for repair. DJI admin confirmed to me on forum that using manual transmission in heavily congested areas can cause this issue, so why put the option on if not to be used in congested areas 😮
hey Gavin other tubers have said they can pair there mini 2 transmitter with a mini 1 wonder how that works and what the range is best wishes
Never seen or heard of that before ! To be honest a mini 1 on the right channel and extender can outperform a mini 2 anyway 😊
Gavin with your knowledge on rules
Can I take pics of houses for sale if I don’t get paid
yes 100% :) it is only when you get paid it becomes commercial work etc
@@GAVINHR thank you
Loving the channel Gav………are these any good for the mini 2?…if so which one……cheers Rye
Hi Rye, in my experience no they are not worth it on the mini 2 and can actually limit the mini 2 and how ocusync works, see this video :)
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I only get 250-300m on the mini se, on fcc mode... any ideas?
I have having range problem after the firmware update in dji mini 2. Also I'm having battery depliting fast issue..do u have any update about tht??
what firmware version are you running?
@@GAVINHR latest firmware
I have one Question, if you can made a video about how many hours lasts motors, on drone valley channel, he said is almost eternal, and about how many hours we must change propellers, per example, if i check screws to tight propellers, locktite lose the glue funtion? and i have to change a spare screw? cuz if i tight, i dont wanna lose for that reason my drone.
So im i better getting a yagi designed for the 5.8ghz if i mainly fly round the gtr Manchester area ?
Hi Gavin. Can you put the superyagi on your amazon shop? Much easier for us to courier etc.
Hi mate, I thought about it the other day actually but it costs like £40 a month to set them up as it's me that sells them, compared to what they cost me it'd just not viable to set that up I am afraid. However the Amazon shop is all sold by Amazon it's just products I suggest I in s helpful place
GAVINHR.....Great video and review. Don't have a FB account. Have you another link where one can purchase the SUPERYAGI ??
hello Gavin , Thanks for your very informative videos . I fly mostly in open countryside , my question is , would the mavic mini choose a good strong connection in open countryside . Thank you . Bill .
Hi Bill, yes for open countryside it should pick a low green bar in the 1-13 range or 1-11 if you're in the US :)
@@GAVINHR Thanks for your reply Gavin . Im up here in Cumbria so nearly always well away from people and dwellings . Ive just bought the mavic mini and missed out on the care and refresh deal because I couldnt figure out the new pass word they kept sending me , After many tries I got locked out for 24 hours then when I was able to try again I was told I was too late . What a carry on . Im a bit dumb regarding drones , so can I take it that every time I turn the drone on in a different location it will find a signal for that new location ? sorry to be a pain . thanks . Bill .
Not a pain at all Bill, yes that is correct everytime you turn it on it will search for the best channel to be on to give the best connection. By the way did you see my video on DJI care refresh Vs Coverdrone? Give it a watch.. you will find coverdrone is a much much better option all round!
Yes Gavin , just watched your video about cover drone thank you . Hope you have a comfortable evening . Bill
Thanks Bill you also!
Great video very useful information.
Glad it was helpful!
Which one perofrms best in urban area only?
For me a parabolic based one will work better as it's reflecting the signal
What antenna extender choice is there for the DJI Mini 2 SE which uses the newer type RC-N1 controller?
I tried to switch my mini se from auto to manual in transmission mode. It fried my drone and would not pair with controller. I’ve sent it back for a replacement. Any idea why?
I would have no idea why that would happen unfortunately
Can you use this on a F11 RUKO Drone???
I can’t find these on your Amazon have you discontinued them?
Can't see your new SuperYagi design on your Amazon page :-(
copper or aluminium there is only 1 percent difference in sigal reception its not a big deal...how ever when you do an antenna mod both antennas are identical in dji remote this is maybe why there is such poor frequency ...
Good info! 👍😎
Thank you mate. I appreciate that. Hopefully it helps people
Great video 👍
Thank you!
Can you monitor the wi-fi channel interference mid-flight?
How much is possible to extend Mini 3 Pro's range? I got my drone one week ago, my longest distances have been 800 m outside of the city and 400 m in the city. Looking for range extenders not only for better range but stable signal.
I use RC N1.
Sadly it’s not really possible to extend range on an ocusync drone as the whole point is it can switch to keep a strong signal, it does however often get it wrong so fixing the frequency may well help depending where you are flying
@@GAVINHR Thank you very much for your reply, Sir!
Great explanation, 👍
Thank you! Highly appreciated
Do you have any controller range extenders for the air 2s?
Hi there, sadly not, I. My opinion the way the air 2s controller works and with ocusync using extenders can actually limit your range
@@GAVINHR Thank you for the reply. I appreciate it.😊
You're welcome, I have tested a Yagi extender for the mini 2 in that video I explain why it isn't a good idea to use them then at least you know why - it's a bit too long to type 😊
Great video -- just subscribed. Do you have a recommended Range extender for the parrot anafi? Thanks!
Who the hell is so stupid to thumbs down this video!?!?!? Wtf, I don't get it, such a good, informative video...
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Ivan you would be amazed sir. Sometimes I have no idea why people put them. When I get thumbs down it really used to bug me, sadly now I accept it is part of RUclips. I would rather somebody write in the comments what they don't like ... But they never so. I try my best to give fair and informative videos yet still I get thumbs down. Thanks man I appreciate it
The one that really bothered me was the wind test between the Mavic mini and mini 2. I put them through a test where I could give firm results by fixing the camera on s set point I proved the wind speed and put them side by side. I couldn't of done a more fair test - some others just put a drone up and say it's good at handling wind. I gave a quantifiable result and still I got thumbs down
@@GAVINHR do you perhaps remember when did it start happening? Because my channel is tiny, 150 Subscribers or something, and so far I have 0 thumbs down!
So I think it has to do with when your channel grows and your videos start to get suggested to people who aren't subscribed and some of them are probably just jealous or I'm not sure.. I mean I don't ever put thumbs down on anyone's video, I always just write what I think is wrong..
Very strange why RUclips chose to even implement them, thumbs up is OK if you don't like it just watch something else, no need for hate...
Anyway...
You know your subscribers will always be on your side and always comment if we think something different to you..
You have a very nice channel, I still can't believe how fast you guys grow your channels! But then again, I'm not trying to grow my channel, I just upload so I can have them videos forever online... I use RUclips as free Hard drive, lol...
Keep well and be safe Gavin..
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@@GAVINHR yeah, I'm actually sure it has to be some kind of Bots or some Trolls that are just basically Haters who are just very very jealous of something for some unknown reason!
I mean so many people watch your videos, and they are really helpful.. So it really makes no sense to me why you'd get thumbs down! The more I think about it the more I realize that there really is no reason for dislike toward your videos... Unless these idiots actually dislike you for some reason, then no matter what you upload they will always thumbs down your work..
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Keep well and be safe Gavin!
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That is my feelings also.. I would never dislike a video, if I liked it then I'd give s thumbs up - if not I would just switch off but that's me personally. Also... To be honest when it comes to bots, I have wondered this before as I have seen dislikes disappear - on one video my dislikes went down after a few days and I thought this was very strange
Amazing content
Absolutely AWESOME!!!
Dude, bro, seriously this video is super awesome!
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I've found out a way to properly hack the Mavic Mini controller so that it always runs in FCC mode!
It's complicated somewhat, but it involves logging on to the controller via Ethernet cable and IP address, then via q console you change a parameter in a configuration file!
I'll make sure to first get this USB 2.0 to Ethernet adapter cable and I'll be able to try it!
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Thanks Ivan, I literally don't think I can explain any of these better than what I have in this video, FYI incase I sounded odd I am actually quite unwell at the moment so I actually struggled - I have some super amazing videos coming up but I am just staying in the house at the moment so I thought this would be ideal to make. Thanks for watching as always mate! Enjoyed the flight over the football pitch earlier!
Hi Ivan . Would love to hear your solution mate. Remember me, I'm from Cape Town 😉
Hope you get well Gavin. Love your videos and always follow. Chins up!
@@apkossowski it's not actually my solution, I just just found out about it today. I really really wanna try it, but have to gets me that cable firsty..
Watch this: ruclips.net/video/imTMj2QtIYw/видео.html
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Thank you ! I appreciate that ☺️ hopefully be a bit late vibrant in the next video haha
Gavin, hello from Texas. I just bought a DJI Mini SE, does all this apply the same as the Mavic mini, so all i would need is your super yagi and nothing else ? Also is there something i can do to increase my video range as well, i would like to be able to FPV as far as the drone can go. Thanks, Roost
Hi there! Yes all the information is applicable for the mini SE HOWEVER range extenders such as will not have the same effect, you see in the US you get the higher levels of FCC power and a much more powerful 5.8ghz output, basically meaning that I would advise at this stage a simple set of parabolic reflectors for about $10 at this stage and see how you get on as those should be more than enough for you, fix it on a 5.8 channel and you should get a very good signal
@@GAVINHR thanks man, I noticed amazon has these combo deals that come w both. 10 bucks just seems too cheap to me, does anybody make some really quality ones. So you wouldn't recommend your super yagi
@@Hugeroost So my superyagi is tuned to the 2.4ghz frequency only and will not work on 5.8 - because you in the US have a much stronger 5.8ghz output you need to take advantage of that, the cheap parabolics WILL work just fine but if you want to spend more money and get the mirror / yagi combo then you need to get a set for the 5.8ghz (basically the rods are shorter) hope that helps!
hi gav i got my mini2 for xmas i havent switched it on yet,i wonder who do you insure with? refresh doesnt seem that great to me whats your view please bud
Hi Barry, there will be a channel announcement coming soon but coverdrone is about the best insurer out there! Both on policy and what they cover a s reputation!
@@GAVINHR hi gav just got a quote from coverdrone,,£51 74p probably go with them cheers bud,keep doing the good vids
Yep that's about the average policy price! They are very highly recommended ! Thank you very much
I want a parayogi for my mini2 se
Hey have you tried mixing 2.4Ghz and 5.8ghz on one yagi?
Hi I need some help as ive only had my drone for over 2 weeks first thing is when I fly my mini 2 does the frequency need be on Duel or 2.8ghz or 5.ghz in a built up area as I live in a village as some times the signal drops to orange some times and wanted to know do these lagi boosters help too and all so wich is best frequency to get out a bit further flying I would appreciate your advice thanks as ive watched your videos plus I'm in uk
Built up areas use 5.8 and rural areas use 2.4 :)
@GAVINHR will using this make any difference as here in uk I was flying my drone in a built up housing estate I noticed a signal drop to orange not all the time thanks
@gc68jypsyladexsplora61 it should do yes. Let me know how you get on
@GAVINHR thanks for your help plus some one said leave it duel so I will give this a try plus it did say when I got my dji mini 2 se says range 10km wich is 6 miles I won't do it tbh but if I wanted to go further 5.8ghz be OK thanks for your help
Are these for mini 2
Hi, in this video I am covering mini 1 only as I still have many people who view the channel for the mini 1! Will have a cool led strobe video on the mini 2 in s couple of days 😊
Never struggled for range with mini 1
Wipes the floor with every similar sized drone
It's much better now to be fair, when I first got it I could not even manage 700m 😊 that's how this all started by trying range extenders
@@GAVINHR I never fly more than 1000 it’s plenty for what I want if I needed more I’d go for a long range set up , after all this is just a mini drone
You're completely right, but it seems plenty of people are flying in more urban areas and losing signal after 100m so hopefully this helps those out 😊 already had a few comments regarding people it realising the bars indicate interference and not signal strength so it's done it's job
Does the superyagi work with 2.4 and 5.8 or is there 2 separate
Hi there - the superyagi is 2.4ghz specific
@@GAVINHR ok im gonna get the normal yagi 2.4 so I will have parayagi but I might get them when I need more
Sure :) there are some links on my Amazon page to some 🙂
@@GAVINHR yeah I ordered some for 5.8 as I’m mainly in the urban areas but I’ll get the superyagi for 2.4 as the place I fly is in the middle of no where and I can fly for ages
Maybe one side of the antenna should be 2.4ghz antenna length and the other side 5.8ghz antenna length, so you can use occusync the most effectively, instead of only 2.4ghz or 5.8ghz.
Love your Chanel, Iv recently just got a mini mavic to test out for abit of fun, I can see your range is great but I’m struggling to get any range Iv tried startrc yogi 2.4 and I’m only getting 753 meters what would you recommend do you think your SUPERYAGI would be better (wish I see your Chanel before I ordered the once I have from eBay) any advice would be great thanks
Hi Oliver, which did you order ? On the right channel and any extender should get you further than 753m :)
@@GAVINHRI have put it in manual and put on the lowest green bar no 4 , I have tried again and got 927meters at 73m high. Would you say your superyagi copper would be better if so I would give them a go
The superyagi are better yes but you should be getting more than that with the current set up, are you flying in an urban or rural area?
Yes an urban area but went across farmers fields I live in essex
How do I go about getting the superyagi
Hi Gavin can I ask are the superyagis multi frequency 2.4 and 5.8 or are they set to frequency , thanks
Hi John, they are set to 2.4 only in this design. What I will say but offer no guarantees is in my testing with both the superyagi and parayagi even though they are designed for non urban environments they actually perform well in a city due to the signal being so strong.
What frequency does the Superyagi cover ?
Nice video Gavin, Is there any solution for mini 2 altitude restriction.....the country frm where I belong, there is a altitude restriction for 15 meteres.....so any solution
Good day, sadly not! I wish I had good news for you however are you in India? I have heard about the 15m rule in that country unfortunately it is set within the DJI software , whether you could do some sort of hack regarding a fake GPS location you could make the drone think you are in a county with no restrictions?
@@GAVINHR thank u Gavin for the reply....ys its in India, I saw some other videos where fake gps is not helping the users
Hi mate, post it all you like my friend ! My channel is all about helping others, I assume you mean the modded FCC hacked app? I have no problem sharing information so please do ,🙂
I was absolutely amazed that your Mavic Mini picked up Auto Transmission 2.4ghz channel when they are all red and full of interference!
I say this because my Mavic Mini has never done this, it has never ever chosen 2.4ghz in Auto! Even in the mountains, when I was visiting my parents for Christmas and new year it still Auto chose 5.8ghz as it always does for me.. But I've also never flown it in an open area without any interference..
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@Ivan Jdrakov Lower frequency radio waves are less attenuated, less prone to dead-spots from destructive interference from reflections, and skip over obstacles better. So you can get a workable signal in the face of more interference and at greater distance with a low frequency, but a higher frequency can carry more data. Radio always involves some trade-off of factors affecting workability, so the selection can seem counterintuitive.
@@lindsayheyes925 yes you are absolutely correct...
The thing is that 2.4ghz is very very proune to interference in the City where I live. When I set my Mavic Mini to 2.4ghz I get about 50m to 100m maximum distance flying from my balcony! If I use 5.8ghz I'm able to get to 250m even 300m!
That's why I use the FCC Hack and my homemade parabolic reflectors and that gives me over 1.1km distance with 5.8ghz..
2.4ghz can't be FCC Hacked, but 2.4ghz with parabolic reflectors gives me not much better results than 2.4ghz without reflectors..
So I've found the best for flying over a city is certainly the FCC Hack and some other antenna mod, like Yagis or parabolic reflectors..
These days I fly my Mavic Mini without the FCC Hack as I use the latest Fly App, but with 5.8ghz and my homemade parabolic reflectors I get over 700m, but I only usually fly to less than 300m these days because of bad weather...
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@@ivanjdrakov1957 I see what you mean. Flying from a balcony in a city, you probably have thousands of Wi-Fi emitters within your operating range, including above and below you.
The ones giving you a problem are likely to be very close to your balcony, signal decay being non-linear. Many of them will be at fixed locations, or habitually used in one place. That gives you an opportunity to find a dead-spot where interference from a transmitter is cancelled out by reflection or diffraction, or where it is attenuated by structural metal. Dead-spots can be very small, but worth seeking out.
If that fails try and find a time of day when the interference is less. My home Wi-Fi changes from ultrafast to unworkable at predictable times as the band-width is taken up by other users, so they must be lighting up the ether. There are Wi-Fi analyser apps which can help identify the strength of signals near you.
I hope this helps and I'm not telling my grandmother how to suck eggs.
@@lindsayheyes925 hahahaha, lol that's funny, grandma how to suck eggs.. Lol
Anyway, yeah I just happen to already know everything you just mentioned here.
And yes it's exactly like that, I mean you can check my channel and you'll see where I live and how many thousands of 2.4ghz wi-fi emitters there are around me..
My videos shows that I usually choose a flight path which I've already tested several times.. But yes it also depends on if anyone at any of these locations along my path is emitting some powerful wifi signals..
I like to have very good, at leat good video connection at all times, else I kinda freak out a bit! So that's why the furthest I've flown from my balcony is just over 1100m..
Without the FCC Hack and my homemade parabolic reflectors I was only getting 250m maximum distance before..
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Keep well and be safe bro.... Wait, you're a girl!!! Wow..
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No definitely not a girl!
I suspected that you knew a bit about it, but guessed that even if you already knew it all, others might not.
Stay safe!
Thanks. I’ve used both types, yagi and
Parabolic and haven’t noticed any real noticeable improvement on either my Mini or my Air 2. If they are such an improvement I would think DJI would build them in or at least market them. Both of them are Pie in the Sky or a marketers sales pitch, agin to Snake Oil. You see what you want to see. Not buying it.
Seems you are unfortunate sadly, feel free to check out my previous videos where I test them all against each other. They don't really work on ocusync such as the air 2 so no you won't see a difference on that one
@@GAVINHR Thanks Gavin for your quick response. Maybe I’m just having bad luck. Appears to have worked for you but no such luck for me. I’ve retired my mini and using my Air2. If they work why not with Occusync ? As always enjoy your coverage and value your opinions.
I think you should test the 5.8 GHz Super-Yagis, as you call them, in the same area as the area you tested the 2.4 GHz copper yagis, to compare the same initial range of 1450m against the Super-Yagis range if you can. It is not a fair test if you already get about 400m more range by changing location in the last two tests.
Sadly nick that's not possible, the extra range came from DJI improvements and firmware updates not the location difference, only some of the ranges are in videos I have done, the 4300m was the max I reached on multiple tests not just the one occasion and in at least 3 locations. DJI have updated the mini a lot and when I came to do the parayagi / superyagi test the mini in stock form gave 1910m which is the furthest it ever had.
@@GAVINHR True but still the test is still unfair since you get the 400m advantage from the improvements and updates you don't have in the first two tests. I am not interested about the range so much, but about the signal quality and the ability for a strong signal.
Oh no absolutely it's a fair comment, it puts me in a difficult position as all these tests were done previously when flying with spotters was possible whereas now if I try do range tests and publish them I will likely get nothing but grief for it. Next time I am filming in that location I will see what I can do to check it. However also with my experience whilst the max range was 4300m. There was signal breakup well before that point however with the more expensive of the two had the best signal strength, of course if you are flying closer the standard copper yagis will be just fine
No one can visually see the mavic mini beyond 609 m or 2,000 ft.
Under most lighting conditions I can barely see mine at 300 m or 1000 feet.
You should do an in the City range test, but like London central or something..
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That would be quite the trip from my location Ivan haha
@@GAVINHR OK but isn't there another big city near you that you can do a range test over or in? 😁🇧🇬
Does anybody sell range extenders for single 2.4ghz 8 inch long single antennas??
Are you supposed to turn off your own wifi ,mobile data and Bluetooth on your mobile before flying ?
Hi there! No, turning off WiFi or Bluetooth will have no effect on the signal you can leave it on, if you wish to turn it off to avoid notifications then that’s up to yourself but it’s not needed :)
@@GAVINHR cheers for the reply, just picked up a used Mavic mini for my 1st drone , I was looking at the Chinese f22s pro drones but seen this had 4000m on specs but I was reading the FCC version unaware that they make 2 versions lol , it'll connect to all my family members phones like pixel , Samsung , iPhone but not my Huawei do you know of any problems between DJI app and Huawei phones ?
No there should be no issues but if they do come back to me as I have a video that may help :)
@@GAVINHR a video to help with getting the connection to work with Huawei ? Copy link in
Just if you have any issues installing, it it installs fine you will be ok
I think most of my signal problems stem from being surrounded by trees all the time.
You managed 4000 plus metres with the Yagis yet stated at the beginning that you should remember VLOS.
You must have seriously good eyesight to see a Mini at 4km! Have you been ODing on carrots?
That aside I learnt stuff about the use of frequencies.
Back then the RP didn't need to have visual eyes on the drone, you could use spotters that didn't have to be by the side of the operator. Those rules changed on 1st December 2021 all of this was recorded prior 😊
@@GAVINHR Ah.
I can’t see a BMW Mini at 4km let alone a DJI Mini😳
can you ship to IRELAND
These have been shipped all over the world this is not a problem 😊
@@GAVINHR thanks
I pm'd you on FB
Hi mate I've not had anything?
@@GAVINHR hi, sorry. Will email you probably best
Sure thing! I checked filtered messages on Facebook but didn't find anything !
Where are u buddy
Most of all, climb to a high point…
Most people just need to turn off their cellphone's WiFi!
Tried and tested - makes no difference