This was a recall item in pre-2011 engines, well documented online and how to preemptively fix it by replacing the tensioner for the chain or check to see if it was fixed. When I was shopping for a tiguan I came upon this issue and opted to get a 2018 model. If people aren't going to research their used cars, at least dont keep driving on a check engine light. 🤣 Also, plug fouling is probably from running regular in a premium preferred engine.
yes, and I believe I stated so in the video. I hope everyone avoids this problem by changing their Chain (and related parts) preemptively as you suggest. Thanks for watching and commenting on my video.
@@CoolAirVw no problem. It wasn't a criticism of you. I'm just amazed customers are still driving things a decade later with known issues. Save a buck today, spend three grand tomorrow.
Yeah I pulled ancient plugs out of our 2011 that had almost 100k on them and they were whitish and clean, not black and fouled like this, I only run shell 91 religiously because it’s the only fuel near me that has 0% ethanol and it’s the only gas that’s given me no trouble with my aftermarket tuned cars. I would bet it’s cheap gas too.
Thanks for the video. Unfortunately, my next door neighbor bought a 2011 Tiguan with 231k miles for their teenage daughter. After just 3 months of ownership she limped the car into the driveway after horrible engine misfire and vibration. We worked on it today and I think the timing slipped and the engine is toast.
Yeah I remember our 2010 limped in driveway, I scanned it for codes, got the cam shaft errors etc, I cranked it anyway to try and start it not knowing what I was about to do and smacked all the valves into the pistons with the starter, you could hear the metal on metal clanging. We replaced it with a 2011 with the same tensioner issue. The only difference is this time I’ve been the one changing the oil & more frequently, and the car has made it another 50k longer than the previous one, it’s also about 7 years older and was purchased used too. The 2010 we had from new and was only maintained at the dealer. Engine blew at 107k Kms. VW paid for a replacement engine but my brother wrote off the car a week later. When the engine grenaded itself it was about a week after the car had just had a turbo replaced. When I checked the oil level after the engine smacked valves there was no oil. I’m guessing the dealer did the turbo and maybe forgot to do the oil after. This wouldn’t be the first time the dealer screwed up. The last time the car had the intake replaced for the recall they left the high pressure fuel line loose and it was spraying fuel everywhere. Lucky the car didn’t catch fire.
Great video i just saw it to late my car is towed to the garage today and theyre gonna change the chain so i hope the engine is ok… theyre not gonna diagnose the engine..
what is the primary reason a newer 2.0 tsi engine cant be used in a 09-11 passat. my 09 passat has the chain and valve damage and would like to install a low mileage tiguan 2.0 tsi engine.
Do you know the letter code of your engine? Might be a BPY engine?? BPY will NOT interchange with later CCT from Tig. Radically different engines despite same displacement. Cheapest repair would be head repair after valve crash due to chain fail. Changing engine is labor intensive (expensive) and those engines run very high from salvage yards.
Where is ur shop located I’m in Jersey and have a CC 2009 2.0lt model and she needs a timing chain and the water pump install replacement?? Any chance ur close by ???
I have a 2002 jetta 1.8T AWP, sadly the timing belt failed and pretty sure it bent all 20 valves. Would i be better off putting in a low mile replacement engine in or just get the head rebuilt? The car currently has around 185,000 miles.
Mate, I’m about to buy Tiguan 2012 155tsi with original 62.000km on the clock. Can you please give me any advice and when should I replace the timing chain? Thanks
Motor swap time got one for 2200 put a new chain kit on it boreshung swap was done for 900. Car is good for another 100k beats doing all that extra work
Ok could you answer this question... I just took mine to my local shop they said the timing chain broke, what would be if any options at this point besides changing out the whole engine?
@@solodolo8791 If the timing chain broke, you could not drive the car, so did you tow? I did this job back in 2017 when my tensioner failed @120K I had to pull the head and get rid of the valves.
Tumdéaux I stopped at gas station grabbed something out the gas station tried to start it and wouldn’t start, it’s been two days and hasn’t started since then my local shop quoted me $5300 to replace the engine... plus I’m still making payments on the car 🤦🏽♂️
@@solodolo8791I'm not sure how mechanically inclined you are, do you have a cylinder pressure gauge? If they're is not any cylinder pressure then you knocked out the intake valves and need to replace them. That is what happened to me. $5300 is quite a lot of cash. The cylinder head in parts and tools (my own labor) cost me $1000. What model and year is your car?
I just had the same thing happen to my 2010 Tiguan. The mechanic says it needs a new engine but you replaced the head and I assume the timing components. What was the cost of this repair? An estimate would be fine if you cant remember. Thanks
@@CoolAirVw shoot just got a diagnose of this from the mechanic in town I have a 2015 VW tiguan, don't know whether to leave there for repair or haul it over to dealership?
@@deanaoconnor967 aftermarket shop will be cheaper but make sure machine shop that rebuilds the head does NOT replace the "ferrous" exhaust valve guides with "brass" like the intakes are! They will not last! See my other video. Either reuse them if they are good or contact me and I can get sell you some.
uh, its in the video. Chain jumped out of time and pistons smacked the valves making impossible for cylinders to compress the air fuel mixture making no start.
Ouch. Timing chain needs to be done every 100k or pistons smack valves. Waterpump is plastic so they crack and leak. Newest ones that we use are aluminum so that fixes the issue. Lets hope you don't have turbo problem or crank vent/rear main problem. See my other videos.
I’ve been looking for a video on this exact topic. My sister has a like new 2009 Tiguan, 80,000 miles. It’s been sitting in her garage since October 2016. She’s giving it to me. I hope it’s just the tensioner. Can anyone give an estimate for this complete job and one with just the tensioner replacement. Thx THE DIAGNOSIS FOUND CODES: P0011, P0300, P0301, P0302, P0303, P0304, P0506, P130A, P1297
If the car wont start its probably not just the tensioner. If it still runs and has those codes maybe. We used to offer simple tensioner replacement, but then a few that we tried ended up having so mush slop in the chain that the tensioner was all the way extended and the chain still had slop. The tensioner, chain and guides need replaced at 100k or the chain will fail and pistons could smack the valves.
CoolAirVw Rm Understood! She says she was driving, the car began loosing power at acted like it was going to shut off. She had it towed to the VW dealership. They changed the water pump, among other things, then she was back on the road. Three months later, the same thing happened. She had it towed in, the dealership techs pulled the codes I listed above, but said the needed $1,200 more for a diagnosis. She declined, had the car towed home, drove it into the garage and it has sat there to this day. What do you think?
This was a recall item in pre-2011 engines, well documented online and how to preemptively fix it by replacing the tensioner for the chain or check to see if it was fixed. When I was shopping for a tiguan I came upon this issue and opted to get a 2018 model. If people aren't going to research their used cars, at least dont keep driving on a check engine light. 🤣 Also, plug fouling is probably from running regular in a premium preferred engine.
yes, and I believe I stated so in the video. I hope everyone avoids this problem by changing their Chain (and related parts) preemptively as you suggest. Thanks for watching and commenting on my video.
@@CoolAirVw no problem. It wasn't a criticism of you. I'm just amazed customers are still driving things a decade later with known issues. Save a buck today, spend three grand tomorrow.
@@grevensher594 I didn't take it as criticism. I'll pin your comment so hopefyully more people will see it and change their chain!
Yeah I pulled ancient plugs out of our 2011 that had almost 100k on them and they were whitish and clean, not black and fouled like this, I only run shell 91 religiously because it’s the only fuel near me that has 0% ethanol and it’s the only gas that’s given me no trouble with my aftermarket tuned cars. I would bet it’s cheap gas too.
Great video on real mechanic work, not just chasing what codes spit out. This is becoming a lot art, actually real troubleshooting and diagnosis.
Thanks for the positive comment.
Great idea for coil removal tool!
TSI engines support the economy, by bending valves since 2009. =)
Older ones too! BPY engines the chain tensioner fails (cam to cam chain). Bunches of those.
@@CoolAirVw true.
No valve bending needed. Change the chain, tensioner and guides at 100k.
LMAO great comment, in Denmark it's the same. Over $2000 for new timing chain on my TSI
Thanks for the video. Unfortunately, my next door neighbor bought a 2011 Tiguan with 231k miles for their teenage daughter. After just 3 months of ownership she limped the car into the driveway after horrible engine misfire and vibration. We worked on it today and I think the timing slipped and the engine is toast.
If its still running I doubt the pistons smacked the valves. It can jump one teeth or so and still run although badly since the timing is off.
Yeah I remember our 2010 limped in driveway, I scanned it for codes, got the cam shaft errors etc, I cranked it anyway to try and start it not knowing what I was about to do and smacked all the valves into the pistons with the starter, you could hear the metal on metal clanging.
We replaced it with a 2011 with the same tensioner issue. The only difference is this time I’ve been the one changing the oil & more frequently, and the car has made it another 50k longer than the previous one, it’s also about 7 years older and was purchased used too. The 2010 we had from new and was only maintained at the dealer. Engine blew at 107k Kms. VW paid for a replacement engine but my brother wrote off the car a week later. When the engine grenaded itself it was about a week after the car had just had a turbo replaced. When I checked the oil level after the engine smacked valves there was no oil. I’m guessing the dealer did the turbo and maybe forgot to do the oil after. This wouldn’t be the first time the dealer screwed up. The last time the car had the intake replaced for the recall they left the high pressure fuel line loose and it was spraying fuel everywhere. Lucky the car didn’t catch fire.
Great video i just saw it to late my car is towed to the garage today and theyre gonna change the chain so i hope the engine is ok… theyre not gonna diagnose the engine..
what is the primary reason a newer 2.0 tsi engine cant be used in a 09-11 passat. my 09 passat has the chain and valve damage and would like to install a low mileage tiguan 2.0 tsi engine.
Do you know the letter code of your engine? Might be a BPY engine?? BPY will NOT interchange with later CCT from Tig. Radically different engines despite same displacement. Cheapest repair would be head repair after valve crash due to chain fail. Changing engine is labor intensive (expensive) and those engines run very high from salvage yards.
Thanks for the video, researching for a really cheap 09 GTI that has this issue, and possibly repairing myself.
thanks for watching. Be sure to watch other video. This vehicle came back with failure after we fixed it.
@@CoolAirVw what was the failure for it to return?
Where is ur shop located I’m in Jersey and have a CC 2009 2.0lt model and she needs a timing chain and the water pump install replacement?? Any chance ur close by ???
I'm in jersey! Just kidding. Nope too far to help with that.
I had water pump replacement on mine and some how the timing chain failed my question is how is this possible?
timing chains fail all the time. Probably no relation to the water pump work.
Yo that happened to me too. And at 51k miles only
I have a 2002 jetta 1.8T AWP, sadly the timing belt failed and pretty sure it bent all 20 valves. Would i be better off putting in a low mile replacement engine in or just get the head rebuilt? The car currently has around 185,000 miles.
If you fix it then you get a rebuilt head--better reliability. If cost is a concern then you'll have to price it both ways to know.,
my 2010 tiguan trys to start but it won't turn over. I change the battery, pcv valve the spark plugs n the variable timing solenoid n nothing
timing chain/tensioner fail causing out of time causing pistons to smack valves causing no compression? (similar to what happened in this video????)
Omg my 2012 VW Tiguan is doing the same exact things same sound and everything is new
Mate, I’m about to buy Tiguan 2012 155tsi with original 62.000km on the clock. Can you please give me any advice and when should I replace the timing chain? Thanks
I tell my customer to change chain system at 100k Miles.
Motor swap time got one for 2200 put a new chain kit on it boreshung swap was done for 900. Car is good for another 100k beats doing all that extra work
Be sure to watch the 2nd video on this vehicle.
How many cyclinders?
Question what did it cost to get it fix ?? I think i have the same problem I'm just trying to get ready for the expense
I dont do pricing on youtube.
So what platform do you do pricing on?
@@EBEEZY313 If you local to kansas city then email me. if your not then dont.
How much did you end up paying?
I own a 2003 Jetta VR6, at what point should I replace the chain on this engine. It is on the back, I thought a good time is when doing the clutch!
I've only saw a couple vr6's jump time. 120k or any time you have trans out.
How much does a chain replacement cost on average?
Sorry I will not post pricing on youtube. Plus there is no way my pricing would be same as pricing where you are.
Ok could you answer this question... I just took mine to my local shop they said the timing chain broke, what would be if any options at this point besides changing out the whole engine?
@@solodolo8791 If the timing chain broke, you could not drive the car, so did you tow?
I did this job back in 2017 when my tensioner failed @120K
I had to pull the head and get rid of the valves.
Tumdéaux I stopped at gas station grabbed something out the gas station tried to start it and wouldn’t start, it’s been two days and hasn’t started since then my local shop quoted me $5300 to replace the engine... plus I’m still making payments on the car 🤦🏽♂️
@@solodolo8791I'm not sure how mechanically inclined you are, do you have a cylinder pressure gauge? If they're is not any cylinder pressure then you knocked out the intake valves and need to replace them. That is what happened to me.
$5300 is quite a lot of cash. The cylinder head in parts and tools (my own labor) cost me $1000.
What model and year is your car?
any ideas what could it be
What are you located
The plastic chain guards fail after certain mileage. Should be changed around 90k
Thanks for the video really app
Your welcome.
2:39 Date on the display: 2034.14.21 Hahahaha! :D
tonight were gonna party like its 2034
Hey I’m near Kansas City. Where are you located?
Belton MO.
I just had the same thing happen to my 2010 Tiguan. The mechanic says it needs a new engine but you replaced the head and I assume the timing components. What was the cost of this repair? An estimate would be fine if you cant remember. Thanks
sorry I dont price when stuff isn't local nor do I price on youtube comments.
@@CoolAirVw shoot just got a diagnose of this from the mechanic in town I have a 2015 VW tiguan, don't know whether to leave there for repair or haul it over to dealership?
@@deanaoconnor967 aftermarket shop will be cheaper but make sure machine shop that rebuilds the head does NOT replace the "ferrous" exhaust valve guides with "brass" like the intakes are! They will not last! See my other video. Either reuse them if they are good or contact me and I can get sell you some.
Hey great video could I send you my tiguan?
If your local, SURE!
So, what was the problem?..
uh, its in the video. Chain jumped out of time and pistons smacked the valves making impossible for cylinders to compress the air fuel mixture making no start.
Where r you shop r located?
visit my website www.kansascitytdi.com
I have a 2011 Tiguan and after 1 month we placed the water pump and now the timing. Smh $6600 in total
Ouch. Timing chain needs to be done every 100k or pistons smack valves. Waterpump is plastic so they crack and leak. Newest ones that we use are aluminum so that fixes the issue. Lets hope you don't have turbo problem or crank vent/rear main problem. See my other videos.
Good old VW instrument cluster does not match scan.
Your watching close!
I’ve been looking for a video on this exact topic. My sister has a like new 2009 Tiguan, 80,000 miles. It’s been sitting in her garage since October 2016. She’s giving it to me. I hope it’s just the tensioner. Can anyone give an estimate for this complete job and one with just the tensioner replacement. Thx
THE DIAGNOSIS FOUND CODES:
P0011, P0300, P0301, P0302, P0303, P0304, P0506, P130A, P1297
If the car wont start its probably not just the tensioner. If it still runs and has those codes maybe. We used to offer simple tensioner replacement, but then a few that we tried ended up having so mush slop in the chain that the tensioner was all the way extended and the chain still had slop. The tensioner, chain and guides need replaced at 100k or the chain will fail and pistons could smack the valves.
CoolAirVw Rm Understood!
She says she was driving, the car began loosing power at acted like it was going to shut off. She had it towed to the VW dealership. They changed the water pump, among other things, then she was back on the road. Three months later, the same thing happened. She had it towed in, the dealership techs pulled the codes I listed above, but said the needed $1,200 more for a diagnosis.
She declined, had the car towed home, drove it into the garage and it has sat there to this day.
What do you think?
@@Thedarjon813 Cant know anything based on what your saying.
CoolAirVw Rm thx. I’ll email you
there is an inspection plug on the lower timing cover, you can see there is the tensioner is bad