Ike & Tina Turner Documentary
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- Опубликовано: 17 июн 2020
- Documentary on Ike Turner, bandleader of the Ike & Tina Turner Revue. His autobiography "Takin' Back My Name: The Confessions of Ike Turner" is available to purchase on Amazon. www.amazon.com/dp/151758616X/...
After watching this I researched Ike's career. His work as a producer and songwriter is very impressive, his influence is understated. His early life would make a fascinating movie or series. A young black man in the 1950s working as a producer at Sun Records and searching for talent in the segregated South while leading his own band. He records "Rocket 88" which is considered the first Rock n roll song, then he moves to St. Louis and transforms the city with a new sound. Imagine the characters: Sam Phillips, Elvis Presley, B.B. King, Howlin' Wolf, Bobby "Blue" Bland, Pinetop Perkins, Sonny Boy Williamson, Otis Rush.
Because of his abusive status, I wouldn’t watch it
@@icandesire What abusive status? Ike was never charged with abuse but I'm sure you've watched movies by plenty of actors and directors, and listened to music by music by musicians who were abusive. Most have been forgiven for their transgressions and their contributions are prioritized over their personal life. Tina has a large platform to tell stories about their relationship from her perspective but that doesn't make it all truthful. Whatever you think about Ike, he was a pioneer and his musical contributions are important.
@@tonicarter1322 No one’s doubting that he was a pioneer. He was just a pioneer that was abusive and doesn’t deserve my accolades. The same goes to artists who are abusive. I’m sure if this was your mother you wouldn’t have the same stance. That’s my last reply. Don’t bother.
@@icandesire ... Oh, really? Then why are you here? You're here.... Commenting on a a video..... You say you won't watch. ....... Is it just me?
@@icandesire Ike was never charged for abuse like many artists who are accused of abuse. There are no legal records to support Tina's claims. She wasn't an innocent victim. According to some people, Tina was violent herself. Ike admitted they had fights but it wasn't one-sided. Tina chose to stay with him all those years and benefited from their relationship as much as he did. Ike's accolades are for his career not his personal life. He did his time for the drug charges. His accolades were hard-earned and he contributed to the development of blues and rock & roll. What are your accolades?
No matter how traumatised he was from his early childhood or how talented he was....there is NO excuse whatsoever for abusing anyone else and causing them equal trauma and pain!!!
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They are acting like Tina lied she didn’t and he never said she lied. No excuse for abusing women
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You're so right!
Verdade nada justifica o que ele fez a ela se mostrou bonzinho e carinhoso e depois que casou mostrou a sua verdadeira face e as atitudes violentas contra ela,mas nada em vuda tirou o sonho e o sorriso dela continuar e ser a melhor cantora até o dia da sua morte
Homens deveriam ser menos covarde
There is no excuse for domestic violence.. no matter who you are!!
or how talented
Man shut up! You mean to tell me that his ex wife just stood there and took the beatings without fighting back?
Nor from either hand. Men and women (Tina)
I don’t care how good of a musical genius he was… you don’t put your hands on your woman, or any
Agreed
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My Thoughts !!!.... "EXACTLY" !!!!
Yeah I'm surprised Tina stayed with him as long as she did even knowing that he was violent before they dated. She's not a very smart woman. Great singer but not bright at all. 🤡
@@chriskroll4166before u pop off like that,read her book! So much more to the story than you know
Rip Tina The Queen Of Rock & Roll🙏🏾🕊️
The queen of everything, not just 4 rock n roll❤❤❤❤
@@Giselle_Glam594 You Right 💯
@@Giselle_Glam594 what you mean the queen of everything
The biggest karaoke singer ever.
@@jonathansimmons6452smh
People in this doc “he was abused and had a lot of trauma. Sure he had major character and moral flaws but he could really put a show together.” It really bothers me that people will excuse or overlook bad behavior because someone has talent.
it’s not really “excusing “ it they are pointing out the obvious . that man was talented ! but a shitty person to many .
AHEM Johnny depp
@@yeetnama9094 you mean Amber Heard
Amen Amen 🙏
EXACTLY
it’s horrific the abuse he endured, but it’ll never excuse him forcing Tina to endure the same level of fear, terror, humiliation, physical pain, and trauma. and it’s disgusting they’re acting like she didn’t matter, too
you don't know if he 100 percent did.
@@MWah747 clearly u haven’t watch what’s love got to do with it and the documentary Tina
@@raellmoreland4863 actually, I have and it's been stated by Tina and people close to her the rape scene was false but, it had to be put in there for "Hollywood " not to mention others have spoke out on other details. I don't expect the "believe all women" crowd or anyone else who wants to believe every abuse story to understand that though.
@@MWah747 well maybe but back then it wasn’t relevant 4 women to say they were in domestic abuse
@@raellmoreland4863 tf is wasn't...That can be debunked
We may not be responsible for our trauma, but we are responsible for our healing!!
And fully responsible for our actions
This .
you nailed the point
Amen sister!!!
Today we lost Tina 😢. Rest peacefully to them both
I do not care about Tina, she is nobody special in my eyes, just another flawed human being.
Lawrence Fishburn did such a great job portraying Ike that when ppl think of Ike today they think about Fishburn's character instead of the real Ike Turner
Except he was a foot taller than the real Ike 😂
Great acting Great movie
Exactly
So that was Ike Turmer 🤔💭 *jokes🤣
I agree, Lawrence did a creepily amazing job.
Childhood trauma does not justify being abusive towards other people.
RIP my lovely TINA❤your simply the best 👍
RIP IKE
May both Tina and Ike rest in eternal peace 🙏🙏
Not together.
@@annanutherthing4373How do you know?
No excuses. No matter the childhood. I've seen people that had childhoods that you couldn't imagine and they have become amazing people, parents, husbands/wives and they don't abuse the ones they love.
I agree!!!Absolutely!!!
U couldn't have walked a mile in his shoes not saying what he did was right bit u couldn't i couldn't either that's a HARD life
@@tyallison6910 Shit. I had a hard life. No dad. Mom barely there. Two suicides, drug and alcohol addiction all around me but I don't let those things deter me from what I strive for and I don't let those things define me or slow me down. It is a choice and everyone has one.
@@Roostars everybody’s different. Everybody got different mental strength. I wish he could’ve gotten the right help though.
@Roostars Mini-Homestead big ups sir. You must be one of the strongest people in this world. Keep it up.
Tina Turner will always be the queen of lace fronts and wigs
I can’t 😂🤣😭💀
HAHAHA HAHAHA ,VERY HILARIOUS COMMENT 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Mmmm kayyuy
And High heels 👠
Shes the devil in flesh
That Tina Turner had a powerful voice, may she rest in peace. ❤️👸🏾💐🙏🏽
Tina was gorgeous I mean she was so beautiful i feel like her beauty was so underrated I’m so intrigued by how stunning she was && she had very nice skin teeth nice smile amazing facial structure
I Agree She Was Beautiful, Even In Her 80's She Had Beautiful Skin!!
Damn do you like women ? lol
Naw she was doe
"In the beginning Ike was very good to me. "-tina turner. That's what happens when you try to save and change a broken person. Then one day you realise your not the answer and will never make him happy.a lot of women are trapped in this vicious cycle.
Turns out, she was the most broken one between the 2 of them. She’s a liar. Shame on her.
Happened to me before. They always treat u great in the beginning but then that switch happens….
So very True
Once found myself, it took me a long time to get out I cannot even let myself down again with falling deeply inlove
@@lovelee6017 yup…that’s why relationships suck.
Ladies please pay attention to how a man treated his ex because 9/10 he WILL treat you the same way!
When you see those red flags please leave. You can't change a man!
(When a female bragged about taking my ex from me I laughed because all she took away was a problem which was a blessing in my eyes!)
I call BS, because you still talking about it.
@@tyronejackson7334 right...
Tina saw all the red flags early on still didnt leave.
@@kiara198923 we are entitled to look back on situations that caused us pain and made us grow, it doesn't mean we still have an attachment. That man in the comments is a clown. Good on you for moving on.
Tyrone you look like a deadbeat lolol
He got a raw deal? Wow I would have to say Tina made him more famous and she took so much abuse and other terrible things he did to her that I am surprised she made it through without major depression and many suicide attempts! She adopted his children and took them on without any doubt Tina is the hero of this story of triumph!!!
She left everything what they mean raw deal
She is.
All of this!!! 👏
I call bullshit. Tina was a pimping on the side everything. She’s a boldface liar.
@@cdnicole30No she didn't
Thank God Tina ran away. I was abused and left too. I can relate. She was so strong. Im glad she found happiness
Ike was talented indeed, but had he not had a TINA to execute his vision, all his talents would’ve gone slightly unnoticed.
She helped make his a name, but he made her a singer and standout. Remember, he was the choreographer, composer and musician. Not Ms. Mae... That's balance.
Umm, he's literally in history books, as his Rocket 88 is considered the first rock n roll song.
True water needed fire to push out the unknown
And with out Ike nobody would ever know who Tina was
He got all that by HIMSELF. His vision HIS Work. She was a single parent. Stop with the disrespect. 🤦🏾♂️
Being good in business does not mean he was good in life. Joe Jackson was another example. They hurt many people in the process of professional contributions to the music industry. Does not excuse what they did.
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It’s not excuse; its an explanation
She knew exactly what she was getting, Tina just said that, not me.
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Exactly
I'm so happy Tina Turner found true love and happiness RIP queen ❤
RIP queen Tina Turner ❤️🙏
That young Tina Turner was an absolute FOX !!!
She's still beautiful...
Literally ... I never knew what that person look like, but that was here frfr
😂😂😂 i literally just said damn she was bad back then lol
Beautiful
Yes TINA was baaaad‼️‼️‼️
He didn't get a raw deal. Like many men , he led with ego. That was his downfall. Unfortunately, hurt people can hurt people. I hope his soul is at rest.
Well said 💯💯💯
You are correct...there was a cycle of hurt from Ike.
I always felt some sort of trauma had occurred in his life.
RIP Ike Turner!
Dam that was very well said. Not ride simply true.
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THANK You. That man did everything to break her and failed. Legendary or not.
Tina is and always was so wonderful. Such a voice, a presence, a spirit. Love you always, beautiful Tina!!
R.i.p. the true queen of rock and roll!!! My heart is in pieces
Since understanding how much childhood trauma shapes your adult life - hearing that Ike Turner was sexually abused from the age of 6 by 3 grown woman shows me he was angry at all woman from that young age. He made sure all woman suffered because in his little 6 year old mind, all woman were predators and out to get him. He had a “get them before they get me” mentality. This is why it is SO important to protect and love your children at all costs. Their future depends on it
Being sexually abused so young twisted his perception on sex. When Ike talks about being preyed on by grown women in his book, he said he wasn't traumatized. "That's probably why every relationship I was in was surrounded by sex. Sex was power to me," he said. I don't think he had the mentality to make all women suffer. A majority of his defenders are women he helped. He hired a lot of women and most say they never witnessed any violence from him. However, he was self admittedly selfish when it came to his needs in a relationship and he expressed remorse later in his life.
Agreed
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Bs. I believe none of he was abused.
Hurt people hurt people you gunna be the domino that gets hit and keeps the cycle turnin or you gna be the domino that stannup tall 🤷🏽♀️? 🛑
Super talented but his abusive ways def outshined his talent.
You put it “absolutely perfectly!!”♥️
@@karenstrycharz1499 thanks doll. I appreciate your comment!
He wasn't abusive to females. That was a lie.
@@kiara198923 ♥️I have read so many descriptions of Ike but honestly, “@GourgeouslyReal T.V.”, I just have to saythat I have never read a better description of Ike, as the one you texted ( wrote) above! Great job!
😁Your honest, to the point, objective & concise description of Ike was the best description of him, that I have ever read/seen! It was also sooooooo very, very true! Have a great summer !!!🌴
@@jwil2414 😂🤣😂 Yeah ok. Neither was my father. For. N I definitely loved my dad.
May Ike AND Tina rest in Natural Great Peace.
I was 15 years old, when I saw Ike and Tina Turner at Skatland in the San Fernando Valley. It was a awesome act. Tina carried the hole show. Ike was a common drummer, nothing exceptional. Tina could perform with anyone and always carrie the show. She shined all by herself. It was no surprise when she decided to go solo. That was pretty much expected from anyone with unique talent. Ike was never in her league.
It's wonderful to witness exceptional talent succeed. Yey! For Tina 👏
Ike played guitar. Tina was a great performer. Ike built the show around her. She was the show but Ike put it all together down to creating her stage name. He wrote, produced and arranged most of their songs and he was the bandleader. Tina wanted to be in his band for a reason.
Yea Donna! You Witnessed An Legend 👏🏼
Let's be clear there would have not been a tina without a ike you don't know what you're talking about your getting all emotionally involved as if it was your situation or if u was actually there So jut stop it don't do that Ike put the show together he said XYZ and that's how it went and they were successful doing it So let's not discredit the men okay u doing very much for no reason
But he made her tho
What weak spirits ⬆️⬇️ we have here??…
Tina was the Beyonce of her time, she didnt need to lie on Ike. She didnt even tell the story for years after their breakup. Now maybe Hollywood put a spin on the movie but he was definitely laying hands on her. Most all abusers abuse behind closed doors.
Our actions have consequences!!!
His dad shouldn't have been beaten that bad, but adultery is a sin...
True but he said one here of cocaine made him addicted that's crazy
Period...
Tina Turner has a unique voice
R.I.P. Tina Turner & Ike Turner music would not be the same without you two 🕊🖤🕊
Tina's smile😍❤
So beautiful ❤❤
“Anyone who said they ain’t try cocaine with Ike Turner , is a damn lie ... it was always free!” Lol 😅 no chill .
Ahhh... the 70s.
FR FR 🤣🤣
He was so wack for that sht. 😆😆😆😆
Exactly
Lmfao
The Voice-over commentator is absolutely exquisitely voiced🏆
This video proves. No matter how much money and fame u have. Drugs can destroy it all.
They both were GOATS, BUT TINA REINVENTED HERSELF!!!
Redd Foxx was open about his cocaine addiction and Elvis Presley reportedly used liquid cocaine. Ike and Tina had a residency at the International Hotel with Redd Foxx and Elvis in 1969. It's possible that's when they introduced Ike to cocaine. When Elvis was still a truck driver, her used to sneak into black clubs in West Memphis to watch Ike play piano. Ike said many years later Elvis approached him at the International Hotel and asked if he remembered him. That's when he realized he was the white boy who used to watch him play.
I appreciate this documentary and I respect Ike’s genius. The documentary was mostly focused on Ike’s talent and his own personal trauma and downfalls. Definitely necessary to hear about his life and pursuit of happiness. I believe he severely abused Tina. Even if Hollywood embellished certain aspects, we know he was a brutal husband and drug addict. People who try to blame Tina for the abuse she suffered are sick in the head. No human is completely evil or good, and in that way neither was Ike. But they say you know them by the fruit they bear. Look at how both their lives ended and it tells you all you need to know.
You ain't lying
Well said 👏
Damaged people who are mysoginists always blame the woman especially if they're pretty or strong.
Always more than one side of the story...
@@jessethepersiankitty2377 Drug addiction also makes the problem worse.
All problems in this world root in some form of child abuse. The sick world we face is rooted in this. The lack of love. A sad story of a talented man. And I love Tina. R.I.P. both of you...
Tina is a Legend
Yeah she was a Super Star Performer...
He opened the door for her
Tina Turner was & “is” a legend! I so agree with you!
not as a musician that's for sure
Hmmmm, Tina was ok, i think she got more love for the sympathy for the abuse she experience from Ike than her actual talent
This is the the world we live in. Abusers are excused for their abuse, because they are talented. 💯
Right or bc they helped the poor woman down the road.
You mean MEN. They always gang up.
Yeah, it's sickening.
Say it again!
Ike wasn't ish but a uneducated street hustla that wanted 2 get his name out there in the music biz, BY ANY MEANS...unfortunately Tina was manipulated/tortured /beaten by him and he did it all 4 NOTHING, he was SICK
It's disgusting
I’m so flabbergasted by people in these comments saying “we don’t know for sure that Ike physically abused Tina”, the man himself admitted to laying hands on her. I’m sure every villain has an origin story, like this documentary presented about Ike but it doesn’t absolve him from what he did.
@user-xz4vg2tk1qShe Finally Got Courage And Left Him, He Had No Right To Ever Put His Hands On Tina, Yes I Agree Ike Was Very Talented, But No Excuse To Put His Hands On Any Woman!!
R.I.P. Ike Turner & Tina Turner!
Obsessed with The Life of Ike & Tina
I was married to person with mental issues and a drink prob. I tried so hard. He was so sweet and a hard work when sober. But I will nvr forget being squished into my oven door just wishin he would go to sleep. I let it happen for 6 months. The 1st time you get hit by someone you're in love with...you don't and can't say how you'll react. Ike can b smart. Musically inclined. But don't hurt ppl you supposedly love... No matter your past. It hurts so bad.
I loved the outfits they wore. So ahead of their time.
Strong and beautiful woman. RIP. 🙏❤
RIP IKE strong & handsome man
What a powerful duo these two were incredible! The music gives me chills.
2 bad he was EVIL
Ike and Tina were amazing!!!!
I thought this was an Ike and Tina documentary, but this was really an Ike Turner documentary.
Because he deserves it!
@@Dzanarika1 yes he does
“Ike was a violent man when I met him - with his ladies” . . . Ummm ok that means you shoulda ran for the fuccn hills Anna Mae!!!!!
Really she signed up for it.
Eat the cake Anna Mae😂.
Should have just kept it professional referring to her relationship with Ike.
Y'all never heard about something called love right?
It was the some way her dad treated woman so she was trained to see it as normal. She did run for the hills eventually when it became too much
Tina,,wow ....the best female voice ever....you'll live for ever.
RIP Tina Turner 🙏🏽
Her life is a mega metaphor! Tina is timeless. The whole world can learn from her story.
The Ikettes and the Pips are the BEST dancing and singing backup groups EVER...
Yes! Totally agree
Ikettes!❤ Such a cute name!
this doc has changed my perspective of him. He was a genius, talented musician
Kinda like r Kelly. Twisted but very talented
Rip Tina she lived along time after all she been through 😢
RIP IKE.
The back up dancer Ms. Butler still looks damn GOOD! You go girl!
Awww look at Ms. Robbie in the background!
R.I.P Andre
Both are legends Ike and Tina turner
Ike was a patient at the Dr office I worked at in Carlsbad California.. when Rick James drove him one time.. I was Star Struck
No one is perfect Ike and Tina thank you both 😌
Ike & Tina The Legends!!
Its about time someone gives Ike a decent documentary!
Who else is here after Tina's passing? RIP Queen❤️We loved Tina so much that we automatically believed everything bad about Ike in the movie.
Ike was such a hard worker that his work ethic could look like abuse at times...but yes I do believe that Ike abused Tina but not to the extent that we saw. I'm sure Tina antagonized him as well.
@@thediaz07wow antagonized seriously? Thats pretty shitty thing to say. Not an excuse to abuse others.
I believe that coke story. I remember Red Fox saying he was close friends with Elvis.
Ike and Tina complimented each other on stage!
All an act .
I don't like what ike did to Tina but the fact that he helped people like that meant he still had a soul somewhere deep inside.
Ike was an outstanding Musician, R.I.P. Ike Turner ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
When telling A story, book or movie, Tell the truth , dont leave out your ugly side, none is perfect!
Precisely
Exactly. Tina tells an revisionist version of her story. She doesn't even acknowledge that her birth name is actually Martha Nell Bullock. Ike revealed that decades ago. Her recent documentary leaves out that she is estranged from her own children. Tina has great-grandchildren that she has never met. Tina doesn't talk about her bad-temper or the fights she instigated. She always berates Ike and blames him for things that went wrong while not taking accountability for her own decisions. Tina chose to stay with Ike and his mistress lived with them. Tina is bitter that she didn't get the money and property she asked for during their divorce. When she revamped her image she created a new narrative and decided to live her European dream. Tina doesn't associate with the black community but when it's convenient she is marketed as a champion for black women.
Right! Shame on her for lying on this man.
I always tell people Ike Turner started Rock&Roll. Born and raised in Mississippi just 10 minutes from his hometown Clarksdale we had to take Mississippi studies in school and do black history reports on black people from Mississippi and I did mine on him. He might've not been the best husband but he definitely left his mark on the industry
Sister Rosetta Tharpe started rock and roll in the 1940s way before Ike
Actually Jimmy Hendricks did
They were never married. Ike was married to several women. Was still married when Tina was pregnant by him.
Fabulous, I am privileged to appreciate his and Tina's talents. What extraordinary lives and cocreation.
I love Ike and Tina
Okay but can we talk music.. how his music literally broke racial barriers at the time. That’s crazy..
I loved hearing that part 👍👍
Ike was nothing short of a phenom. Among musicians he's always been revered as one of the greatest. He was a pioneer, but unfortunately that's been lost on the public.
Amen. I been trying stay positive here lately
Thanks for posting this. Rest in peace to both Ike and Tina Turner.
RIP Tina Turner you was a Legend
RIP IKE
He messed his own reputation up when he hit Tina don’t try to throw sugar over it and call it sweet now his music I get that but what he did messed him up
So it again for the ppl in the back
Yesss I hate this documentary bc it’s only showing everyone’s view around him but he’s not the one telling the story
Her dancers were workin
This man was a early pioneer of rock n roll who influence many artist and never got his deserved credit . People just bring up the negative there is a time and place for that it don't need to be brought up every time along with his name
Wow that's an amazing story rest in peace Ike and Tina Turner and God bless you both.
RIP Mr. TURNER and thank you for the MUSIC.
Men hurt too, but he was good in others ways , glad they should him in a different light.
Interesting to watch, especially after the recent death of Tina 😔
AT THE END HE TOOK RESPONSIBILITY OF WHAT HE DONE TO HIMSELF AND OTHERS...THATS ALL ONE CAN DO...MAY HE REST IN 🕊PEACE🕊🙏
Amen
Totally agree
I loved Tina and Ike together!!! She promised Ike she would never leave him. But that last fight in the car, in Texas, she had enough. She done what she had to do. Both Tina and Ike are very talented.
That fight never happened it was a lie, it’s been out that movie was majority lies to make him look bad
@@Wgz945 it was not a lie, and you commenting support for ike under quite a few comments doesn't change history. you just believe him over tina.
@@camian58 no tina literally said the movie didn't show how it actually went.
@@itdoe4234 She said the abuse was worse that what they showed.
I really love ike and tina turner
I totally enjoyed this piece! I got to see who Ike Turner really was. I wished that he had known how "gifted" he was. RIP Ike & Tina. Both of you changed the landscape for music. Keep on singing!
No one can take away his gift of music or talents. Phenomenal talent! Rip
I enjoyed this documentary so much. It did change my heart towards him.
Yeah how so? You think he’s awful past excuses his abusive tendencies?
I never liked Tina, simply because something has always been way off about her character. I strongly do not like the person.
@@blueyeshadow2738 absolutely not. No excuses
@@blueyeshadow2738he's dead get over it and Tina was no angel in this he owned up to what he did and paid the price
I was treated badly by parents who should have known better. My grandmother drank; she was also abusive to us. My father left after my folks bitterly divorced. I did not become a criminal. I turned my anger inward, drinking and not taking care of myself, for years. But I managed to turn it around. I am 74, and look back with sadness on things I missed out on. But I have a happy marriage, and a full, rich life. I am no victim. Only, of my own past stupidity, I guess. I blame no one. Only me, for not making changes.
Huge applause 👏 for you !!! That's amazing!
Man the part about his dad 😥😔
I understand both the trauma they went through, i believe Ike felt a huge boost of ego when he saw Tina with the talent he felt it was his rise to reach the top of course he must have loved her, but then realized, Tina came from nothing and he worked hard for his position that when Tina started to get noticed and he start disappearing from view, it unlocked a hatred and insecurity that he was not good enough. So the hate started piling when he noticed she was a “fool in love” for him. Then he takes the advantage of hitting, anger, and his own dark world instead of trying to build better he wanted to be the one loved. I feel for his trauma, but it also does not excuse him to putting and building his own trauma on a woman who thought the world of him already.
As i read this i thought heavily of blueface and chrisean wow
True legend rest in peace 💔Tina Turner 💔
May Ike Turner's soul rest in peace. Never touch drugs and always break generational patterns, cycles and negative behaviors. God is good so there is good in each and every soul. The goal is to stay on the righteous, keep learning, keep growing, keep elevating and keep going God's way. Prayers and Blessings.
AMEN
Amen
He played the hell out that Guitar
Ike was a genius his writing tina was that gift god gavel him they were blessed to succeed
If only i had this many people in my corner making excuses for my bad behavior and I never abused anyone😐