Naw people know him and Will was an embarrassment ritual before the slap his tickets were cheap wasn’t even in stadiums after the slap tickets went up 1000 % went to stadiums then got with Chappelle on tour. He sold out either way he chose money over his respect and dignity
@@rollastudent if you not a n word don’t use the word. He’s basically saying n words are not human just like white people did. Some black people are still stuck in ignorance. We are all not at the same place in life. Some black people were still in slavery in the 1960s. Of course they will be more ignorant. Help them or leave them alone.
That’s the bit she was referring to. I took it as a he is blaming Chris rock for the people who misinterpreted and weaponized the joke. Which is unfair.
imagine going to see a famous Black comedian, only to find him on stage standing front of a white audience shitting on Black people so much where it make you feel so unconformable that you had to leave, imagine that
If you want to turn someone into a villain, you don't need a lot of brains. You just need an AUDIENCE . (it doesn't matter if you're telling the truth or not) BEST COMEDIAN CHRIS ROCK
Exactly. We have too many sheep with no critical thinking skills and they have a low view of themselves so they're always looking for a celebrity or a Savior to live through vicariously.
@Vladmir. The last time Chris Rock was funny was the 90's. His latest standup Tambourine was awful!!! Most of it he spends complaining about divorcing.
Eboni Williams went from Trump loving Fox News host to Malcomette X and she’s talking about pandering? Her beliefs are contingent upon who whose payroll she’s on.
No one ever talks about toxic femininity she is a liberal progressive black boulee she will remain single and childless because she bought into the women's lib and loss herself
@@tadah21 A. She is a barred lawyer and therefore likely not moved by the opinion of men who write at first grade level. B. She is an opportunist. Whatever political party pays her at the time
@@donmacmilly Because it’s fake and self serving. You can’t back the guy who wanted innocent black men locked up for a crime they didn’t commit and a year lighter become this aspiring black civil rights leader
Chris Rock got heat for sitting in that room with Louis CK and Seinfeld and having that N-word conversation. Seinfeld was like I'm not comfortable with none of this and Chris was just laughing the whole time.
He doesn't tell raunchy sex jokes, grimey hood stuff or real, ghetto Black stuff like having kids with multiple women and getting abortions He talks like a White guy sometimes
He’s been saying I’m black but a not a (beep) for decades now.. HTF she gonna say she’s a “lifelong Chris Rock fan” and not know that’s an old school CR joke.
As a white person, Chris Rock has spit more truth than most white comics. Now I realize that my endorsement of the man may not sway any black people's opinions, but when I think of someone who softened their comedy for white people, I think Will Smith, Bill Cosby, and Wayne Brady. All three of those comedians had a measure of mainstream appeal but they seemed "safe" compared to Patrice, Prior, early Eddie Murphy, or Katt Williams. There is a reason that Chris keeps getting asked to host the Oscars or the Grammys or whatever. He is authentic while being funny enough to make everyone laugh.
Okay Will Smith is not a comedian but his shows/movies may have comedy in them. Bill Cosby is a story teller and should not be labelled as soft just because he didn't use profanity. Bill wanted to expose black excellence to the masses. Chris been throwing jabs a black people from the beginning of his career. If you pay attention to content. He most definitely switched up when the opportunity came
@@calebdavis381 Do you have a problem with people throwing jabs at black culture? Or do you feel there is nothing that's funny or crazy about it and it's untouchable?
@@excaliber8713 He said the N word. He didnt call someone the N word. If those things r the same to you than I can’t convince you of anything. Ive had black friends understand me using it. But im sure you’ll call them a cuck or not black enough…
The thing i have noticed about Black American is that once you start pandering to people outside your community or race, you’re immediately considered a sellout. Especially in the music industry. I’m shocked to see it play out in the comedy space too.
Michael Jackson is the biggest black entertainer ever and black people never saw him as a traitor. There's a reason why some black people side eye Chris Rock.
@@aquarius-woman5364 who says? Even Tupac thought Michael was a traitor. Some Blacks never believed for one day that he had vitiligo, they always thought he wanted to be white. Come up with a better example, NEXT
@@TosereOjeme MJ was always pro black and was supported by everyone until his death even today. There's a reason for that he never left his people. He would by masters of black artist and give it back to them.
@@aquarius-woman5364 i never said he wasn’t pro black. I am not speaking about the artists, I am speaking about black Americans views on black Artists. Their views on black artists who pander outside their community. It’s either they use the words “sellout” or “He sold his soul”
It really just comes down to black people wanting black comedians to just be stereotypes and caricatures. Where not allowed to have opinions or thoughts that go against he grain.
No lies you told. They want comic view chitlin circuit Tyler Perry black folks who make the corniest low hanging fruit jokes ever. Heaven forbid you make comedy EVERYONE can enjoy. And god forbid you criticize people they don’t want you criticizing. Then you’re a sell out.
I have never really been on the red pill blue pill thing but this is an example of where Kevin Samuels has a point about black women not having the black man's back. And how her opinion starts a conversation that is pointless and potentially tears down a man who is minding his own business. They are not doing it to us we are doing it for them.
Why didnt CTG have that same energy on TBC when Eboni K actually spewed that foolishness out of her mouth while speaking out of the other side of her mouth about how she hates black people tearing each other down in public?
To me Ive always viewed Chris rock as a very under appreciated comedian, when folks bring up topics about all time great comedians no one I mean no one ever brings him up.
Why are they defending Rock by citing the old material that Eboni already said she was a fan of? Her point was that something changed with the new stuff. I know they can't give away his bits but I was hoping they would address if they saw any of this in his CURRENT act or not. Guess I'll wait for the Netflix special to see if she has a point or not
He’s been doing that. 🙄 Chris told Kevin Hart that yes he’s is famous but he’s not “ White Ppl Famous” like he is. Trying to say that Kevin has not reached stardom like himself.
Every time a black artist gets super successful where EVERYBODY is a fan, there are those black people who'll call them sell outs. Even though they've doing essentially the same thing they've always done. They said it about Whitney, they say it about Lizzo, Beyonce and even Eddie Murphy. None of these artist ever catered to or occupied an exclusively black space. They put their talent out there for a general population. Eboni William's needs to stop wearing that fake non African straight hair before she can call out someone for not seeming black enough. And Jason Lee????? Not worth mentioning.
Nobody ever called MJ that and he was larger than life. There's a reason why many black people don't like people like Chris Rock and Kevin Hart and it's not because of their success.
Not funny in my opinion. His comedy may not be pandering to white people however it definitely doesn’t appeal to the black people I know. The ones I know who are 35 and under, we’re not looking for Chris Rock. It just seems he tries too hard to act black and it’s not authentic 🤷🏽♂️ maybe it’s just his delivery, but it doesn’t hit
Chris Rock let a few of his less wealthy white peers call him the N word on camera and the only one with sense was the jewish man ( i dont see the humor in the word and I dont care to look for the humor in the word). thats all I need to know about him.
I think they say it cause of his circle which consist of that late 80s early 90s SNL cast. Sandler, Farley, Schneider, Spade, and Norm. Plus he’s mad cool with Louis CK who co-wrote Pootie Tang, Down To Earth, and A Writer at the Chris Rock Show. Also cool with Stern who him and CK have been known to saying the N-Word. Not so much cause of his comedy. And Ebony Williams hella sensitive being offended for that.
I wonder if Eboni attended his recent shows. I saw him in Seattle with Chappelle. The thing with Seattle is we claim to be a very culturally diverse city, but it’s predominately filled with white people. So my opinion as a white dude could be skewed from that. His content in my show could’ve been different from others, but I didn’t think he pandered to white people. The joke I could see maybe upsetting people is him talking about living in a rich white neighborhood now, but I’ve heard the same premise for years now. Wish she could give an example of him pandering to white, but maybe she knows she’s bullshit lol
His movies since he got with Adam Sandler have pandered. Chris Rock been riding around with Rick Rubin in Porsche's for years coming up with material that degrades & embarrasses our people for a dollar, no different then Charlemagne does in every forum he has to line his pockets.
They're saying he's anti black because he made jokes that could be perceived to make Jada Pinkett look bad.. they want to paint the criticism if Jada Pinkett as "misogynoir" and to do that it helps if Chris Rock can be framed as anti-black
Chris is definitely the white man's boy. They tolerate him nipping at their heels from time to time but he would never ever bite them. He's a good boy.
Why? Chris is comedian and the comedian’s loyalty is to the funny. Not to your sensitive feelings because you get triggered at a white man saying that word in jest. I bet you don’t say shit when rappers say that word at nauseam or when a black comedian says cracker. Fuckin hypocrites.
@@MrKrytikol Exactly what I thought. You have no argument proving my point that you’re just an emotional hypocrite who thinks you’re right because of your skin tone. You didn’t address any of my points because you’re an emotional hypocrite who’s not mature enough to have a conversation about comedy. Chris did nothing wrong. Take your sensitive ass outta here.
@@viperrecords3288 you had zero legitimate points. You had the ranting of a child. Why would i address you with any seriousness? Also, I'm allowed to feel however I want and don't have to justify to randoms online. So continue crying about how unfair it is that I can use a word that you shouldn't. No one said you can't use it. Just be prepared for the consequences of using it. Good bye.
Nah, I get it! It's not just his stand up, his movies too. It's been more later n his career. Mad people still tight he let Louis CK drop the N bomb unchecked!
Smh dats not his job pple in Hollywood dnt got swing on sum1 for sayin a racist word this ain't the streets Lol chris been reppin black pple since bring the pain some pple to young to know
@@7thswordsmenofthemist unchecked doesn't mean violence. As many others have stated, even Seinfeld was uncomfortable n spoke against it. Chris said nothing. "Reppin for black people"?? WTF does that mean?? U mean he made jokes to appease the black culture? U talking like he championed or pioneered some black movement! Meanwhile, da nigga was in scientology 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Eeh...the "Talk with Comedians" thing was wrong no matter what context. Point blank. Buuut you go ahead and say that shit behind closed doors my guy if it makes you feel artistically funny or whatever🤔
Why has no one asked her what specific joke he said that made her think that? I saw him twice last year and aside from the Megan markle joke I don’t see where this take could come from…
I never felt that he did that up to Tambourine and I don't know much since then. If I'm honest his movies to me always seemed off after cb4/new jack city, there was to me a disconnect between his roll choices and his comedic choices/themes. I don't want to say sellout but like that type of feeling. I always just put it up to he wasn't a good actor. But I never have felt he was trying to OJ it.
@@7thswordsmenofthemisttop 5 is on my list but I haven't seen it but can see that being up there and I know little about good hair. But tbf on the movies I have seen they didn't make me excited to see others. If you know what I mean, did he have a new special, I'm excited, new movie apathetic... I will at good hair to my list thought thanks. Head of State just popped into my mind as a on the line movie but I think Bernie stole the show on that one again IMO. Comedians in my experience that are good in movies are real character comedians like Eddie Murphy, Steve Martin, Kevin Hart, Martin Lawrence, Bernie Mac, Robin Williams, Jamie Fox etc. Rock feels like he's in same class as Jon Stewart, Louis CK, Bill Burr, Patrice O'Neil, Comedic murderer's, mid actors.
This is what happens when you’re not a real fan and you’re just going because it’s trendy because the joke Eboni was referring to is a callback from an iconic Chris Rock joke smh … stand up comedy ain’t for everybody especially women who are super literal and serious like her
This is why you don't ever trust what a feminist says they're just lonely sad and want to complain about something because you didn't compliment their nails get the hell out of here hating on Chris Rock
It’s not lost on me that char’s defense of rock is all old material. Speak on the video with Seinfield , Louis CK rock, and one more that I can’t remember. Seinfield was the only one who took issue with Louis using the n word. Rock was very much ok with this.
@@viperrecords3288 I'm not though, I think comedy is too censored now. I'm not cool with Chris allowing his white friends to say the n word. Also, that wasn't a comedy setting they were sitting around talking. The only one who had common sense was Seinfeld who openly said he didn't agree with CK and Ricky saying it.
@@Niabutterfly27 You’re definitely sensitive and hypocritical if you feel that way. Let’s have a real discussion about this topic. First the show was called “Talking Funny”. Which means they were having an open dialogue about comedy. Did you watch the whole thing or just bits and pieces?
It began with Blacks vs Nwords and got progressively worse. Sometimes success can make you afraid of losing it and prompt you to try and relate better to those holding the purse strings. He dissed black women all through "Good Hair" - I mean All Through It Going so far as to tell Asian women to run if they so much as see a black woman. Hosting the Oscars also led to more pasteurization including more us vs them but the us was now rich folk, not black folk. Even his take on black marginalization at the oscars seemed elitist - if not dismissive. You know who seems never see pandering? The panderers and those being pondered to. They deny it just like privilege.
U clearly didn't understand good hair if u think it wus dissing black women ...Nia long and them were in the movie cus it wusnt doin that at all wus about subject most pple wnt talk about shit wus fire
@@7thswordsmenofthemist Some parts where good, maybe even uplifting, that's true - but some of the participants weren't aware of the overall tone of the project when they contributed. And I, like many others, found that tone to be negative
@@bigbrothablu7810 This is a serious question and It would be very decent if you answer it honestly....rate A to D on what would be the most important and beneficial for African Americans today(write the letters in order the most important to least important)... A- talking about how much privilege white people have? B-white supremacy C-how white people are all out to get black people D- crime and murder rate in innercities
Courtney's(black karens) gettin offended over nothing...."I'm black but I'm not a nigga". Yea I fully agree with that....I am not ignorant by no means so don't call me that please
She wasn't saying that he's ALWAYS catered to White people, she's saying that NOW he's catering to White people. I haven't seen his new stuff, but his old stuff explained the Black experience for everyone, and we Black people understood it.
Most black comedians have to in order to gain a wider audience. All the popular comedians and entertainers have to do it no matter what race to gain appeal to different races and classes of people. Its called “selling out” or selling of the soul to get a wider reach in entertainment 😅
It’s been going on for awhile. Most notably that jerry Seinfeld interview with Louis cj. Where they were saying the n word, and Chris said nothing. Or his documentary on black hair. I don’t agree with that take but I understand why people are saying that.
The talking funny clip with Louie isn’t offensive unless you’re offended by everything. Context matters. Every hater of Rock and Louie that praise Jerry in that clip, conveniently forget that he dated a 17 year old in his 30s.
It's because white people with a sense of humor like Rock. Apparently being universally appreciated makes you a sale out. The joke she is offended by was in one his first specials..."life long fan", I think not.
It's crazy how er1 love Chappelle if u go back and watch Chris specials r wayy more geared toward black pple than Dave's are...shit he had 2 turn down mills n go 2 africa cus of how white comedy central and Neil were Lmaoo if u dnt know u dnt know
This isn’t new. He said he called the Bigger and Blacker special that in order to answer that same criticism (back in the late 90s). Of course Charlemagne don’t get it
Listen, I remember when Chris “arrived” and then the tone of his comedy changed. When EKW made that comment I knew where she was coming from. And unfortunately Chris has that whole video floating around where he gave his comedian friends permission to say the Nword (Seinfeld declined because he ain’t stupid 😆). I like Chris and I like his comedy for the most part, but he has pandered to White folks at times during his comedy career. Its not the end of the world, especially since we can never be Black enough for some folks.
She calls herself a big Chris rock watcher but doesn’t know the whole “im black but not a Nword” bit is decades old XD
Yeah its different now that's old his comedy ain't the same you have to see what she is talking about
That shit offensive
Let white people call him nigga
Different world.
He was cooning back then too tho lol y’all just peeping this
Eboni can't talk if she didn't stay for the whole show because one thing Chris Rock is notorious for is bringing things full circle in his shows
He got really successful and now ppl trying to pull him down. It happens all the time.
Yup its about that time
Naw people know him and Will was an embarrassment ritual before the slap his tickets were cheap wasn’t even in stadiums after the slap tickets went up 1000 % went to stadiums then got with Chappelle on tour. He sold out either way he chose money over his respect and dignity
@@travionjohnson3975 the tickets went up because the Oscar slap gave him promotion
@@superdupeninja8149 That’s what I’m saying. I’m not defending Will I’m saying Chris chose money over his pride and respect
@@travionjohnson3975 No Chris chose to be a comedian and not pander to sensitive black folks.
She's clearly not a lifelong chris rock fan. He literally has a famous bit about "black people not liking blanks"
Based on 1:10, I think that’s the part she took issue with. I guess we know what side she claims
@@rollastudent if you not a n word don’t use the word. He’s basically saying n words are not human just like white people did. Some black people are still stuck in ignorance. We are all not at the same place in life. Some black people were still in slavery in the 1960s. Of course they will be more ignorant. Help them or leave them alone.
That’s the bit she was referring to. I took it as a he is blaming Chris rock for the people who misinterpreted and weaponized the joke. Which is unfair.
What tf is a blank? You mean niggas?
"... attending the Chris Rock show BY MYSELF" is all I needed to hear.
Word Lol she went in ther to hate
She's A BOZO
😂 And hate she did!
Eboni K.Williams-“I attended the Chris Rock Show..”By myself”
Why do I feel like she’s if mixed race & her Momma’s white?
imagine wishing violence on a man cuz u don't agree with his perspective... insanity
Women ........
imagine going to see a famous Black comedian, only to find him on stage standing front of a white audience shitting on Black people so much where it make you feel so unconformable that you had to leave, imagine that
Women
The disrespect Chris Rock is getting nowadays is crazy to me. No matter what, one of the comedy greats. They can't take that from him.
He a Kuhn
Damn right. He's a legend who's earned his position. Nothing was given to him.
@@MentalStillness he kuhn clowning for white folks
@@robstark9274you gone die a broke hater 🤡
Omg Thank you.
If you want to turn someone into a villain, you don't need a lot of brains. You just need an AUDIENCE . (it doesn't matter if you're telling the truth or not) BEST COMEDIAN CHRIS ROCK
You saying he’s the best made your whole precious statement meaningless
Exactly. We have too many sheep with no critical thinking skills and they have a low view of themselves so they're always looking for a celebrity or a Savior to live through vicariously.
Katt > Chris Rock
@Vladmir. The last time Chris Rock was funny was the 90's. His latest standup Tambourine was awful!!! Most of it he spends complaining about divorcing.
@@jenisejackson5408 Forgive Vladimir, he is from east Europe they're behind, thinking Chris Rock is the best. He wasn't even best in the 90s.
Eboni Williams went from Trump loving Fox News host to Malcomette X and she’s talking about pandering? Her beliefs are contingent upon who whose payroll she’s on.
and? i agree with points of trump while also Malcolm X.
she was engaged to a white guy too.
No one ever talks about toxic femininity she is a liberal progressive black boulee she will remain single and childless because she bought into the women's lib and loss herself
@@tadah21 A. She is a barred lawyer and therefore likely not moved by the opinion of men who write at first grade level. B. She is an opportunist. Whatever political party pays her at the time
@@donmacmilly Because it’s fake and self serving. You can’t back the guy who wanted innocent black men locked up for a crime they didn’t commit and a year lighter become this aspiring black civil rights leader
Chris Rock got heat for sitting in that room with Louis CK and Seinfeld and having that N-word conversation. Seinfeld was like I'm not comfortable with none of this and Chris was just laughing the whole time.
That is hella weird though
That's what turned a lot of people off
It made seinfield uncomfortable 😂
Well if as a comedian you use derogatory words in your set, you cant be mad when other comedians do it too
He doesn't tell raunchy sex jokes, grimey hood stuff or real, ghetto Black stuff like having kids with multiple women and getting abortions
He talks like a White guy sometimes
She clearly said that to get her name in the headlines and it working smh💀😂😂
She really said “and they were laughing their ass off”… oh the audacity of people laughing at a comedy show
A comedian made white people laugh? Smack him
He’s been saying I’m black but a not a (beep) for decades now..
HTF she gonna say she’s a “lifelong Chris Rock fan” and not know that’s an old school CR joke.
As a white person, Chris Rock has spit more truth than most white comics. Now I realize that my endorsement of the man may not sway any black people's opinions, but when I think of someone who softened their comedy for white people, I think Will Smith, Bill Cosby, and Wayne Brady. All three of those comedians had a measure of mainstream appeal but they seemed "safe" compared to Patrice, Prior, early Eddie Murphy, or Katt Williams. There is a reason that Chris keeps getting asked to host the Oscars or the Grammys or whatever. He is authentic while being funny enough to make everyone laugh.
Okay Will Smith is not a comedian but his shows/movies may have comedy in them. Bill Cosby is a story teller and should not be labelled as soft just because he didn't use profanity. Bill wanted to expose black excellence to the masses. Chris been throwing jabs a black people from the beginning of his career. If you pay attention to content. He most definitely switched up when the opportunity came
@@calebdavis381 Do you have a problem with people throwing jabs at black culture? Or do you feel there is nothing that's funny or crazy about it and it's untouchable?
Eboni Williams really still out here lmao talk about an irrelevant topic 😂😂😂😂
Also funny how CTG didn’t bring that smoke to her when she was on his show 🤔
Chris unfortunately doesn’t get the respect he deserves. Its a shame.
He is white people's favorite Black person...
@@Jay-jb2vr What does that even mean? Millions of different white people have different favorite black people. Thats some silly ass basic shit to say.
He does pander. He let you're ck say the n word
@@excaliber8713 He said the N word. He didnt call someone the N word. If those things r the same to you than I can’t convince you of anything. Ive had black friends understand me using it. But im sure you’ll call them a cuck or not black enough…
@@excaliber8713 he did in front of Patrice O’Neal. He’s one of the most respected comedians.
Louis Ck says the n word in his act.
“When I go to the ATM tonight I’m not looking over my shoulder for the media…”
Isn’t Rock famous for saying “I love black ppl, I hate Niggaz.”?
Yep
Yup
I guess she didn't know that...
Isn’t that the same thing white people say?
The thing i have noticed about Black American is that once you start pandering to people outside your community or race, you’re immediately considered a sellout. Especially in the music industry. I’m shocked to see it play out in the comedy space too.
As long as he's funny I could care less. ✌️
Michael Jackson is the biggest black entertainer ever and black people never saw him as a traitor.
There's a reason why some black people side eye Chris Rock.
@@aquarius-woman5364 who says? Even Tupac thought Michael was a traitor. Some Blacks never believed for one day that he had vitiligo, they always thought he wanted to be white. Come up with a better example, NEXT
@@TosereOjeme MJ was always pro black and was supported by everyone until his death even today. There's a reason for that he never left his people. He would by masters of black artist and give it back to them.
@@aquarius-woman5364 i never said he wasn’t pro black. I am not speaking about the artists, I am speaking about black Americans views on black Artists. Their views on black artists who pander outside their community. It’s either they use the words “sellout” or “He sold his soul”
It really just comes down to black people wanting black comedians to just be stereotypes and caricatures. Where not allowed to have opinions or thoughts that go against he grain.
No lies you told. They want comic view chitlin circuit Tyler Perry black folks who make the corniest low hanging fruit jokes ever. Heaven forbid you make comedy EVERYONE can enjoy. And god forbid you criticize people they don’t want you criticizing. Then you’re a sell out.
I have never really been on the red pill blue pill thing but this is an example of where Kevin Samuels has a point about black women not having the black man's back. And how her opinion starts a conversation that is pointless and potentially tears down a man who is minding his own business. They are not doing it to us we are doing it for them.
Great point
Charlamagne tha God panders also... especially for not calling out Andrew Shultz for his black exploits....
Rock and Chapple expand perceptions without sounding judgemental or preachy.
Char need to bring Eboni back the the breakfast club and question her about this
Chris Rock did nothing wrong
Might need to go watch Chris Rock hang out with Louis CK and Ricky Gervais... Chris did not stand up for black folks there
Why didnt CTG have that same energy on TBC when Eboni K actually spewed that foolishness out of her mouth while speaking out of the other side of her mouth about how she hates black people tearing each other down in public?
He’s been doing that bit for a long time 😂😂😂😂
To me Ive always viewed Chris rock as a very under appreciated comedian, when folks bring up topics about all time great comedians no one I mean no one ever brings him up.
can't blame him after the slap, and many folks in the community defending the perp
So hate a whole race because of a few ?
EXACTLY!!!
Why are they defending Rock by citing the old material that Eboni already said she was a fan of? Her point was that something changed with the new stuff. I know they can't give away his bits but I was hoping they would address if they saw any of this in his CURRENT act or not. Guess I'll wait for the Netflix special to see if she has a point or not
Where Im from black folks never liked Chris Rock.. NEVER
Facts.. Nigga so corny n not funny at all
He’s been doing that. 🙄
Chris told Kevin Hart that yes he’s is famous but he’s not “ White Ppl Famous” like he is.
Trying to say that Kevin has not reached stardom like himself.
That's funny ...Chris always had intellectual humor tho goes over some pple heads unfortunately
Every time a black artist gets super successful where EVERYBODY is a fan, there are those black people who'll call them sell outs. Even though they've doing essentially the same thing they've always done. They said it about Whitney, they say it about Lizzo, Beyonce and even Eddie Murphy. None of these artist ever catered to or occupied an exclusively black space. They put their talent out there for a general population. Eboni William's needs to stop wearing that fake non African straight hair before she can call out someone for not seeming black enough. And Jason Lee????? Not worth mentioning.
Lizzo is not in the same category as them.
Nobody ever called MJ that and he was larger than life.
There's a reason why many black people don't like people like Chris Rock and Kevin Hart and it's not because of their success.
Not funny in my opinion. His comedy may not be pandering to white people however it definitely doesn’t appeal to the black people I know. The ones I know who are 35 and under, we’re not looking for Chris Rock. It just seems he tries too hard to act black and it’s not authentic 🤷🏽♂️ maybe it’s just his delivery, but it doesn’t hit
Chris Rock let a few of his less wealthy white peers call him the N word on camera and the only one with sense was the jewish man ( i dont see the humor in the word and I dont care to look for the humor in the word). thats all I need to know about him.
I think they say it cause of his circle which consist of that late 80s early 90s SNL cast. Sandler, Farley, Schneider, Spade, and Norm. Plus he’s mad cool with Louis CK who co-wrote Pootie Tang, Down To Earth, and A Writer at the Chris Rock Show. Also cool with Stern who him and CK have been known to saying the N-Word. Not so much cause of his comedy. And Ebony Williams hella sensitive being offended for that.
she not Chris has had cringe moments in the black community.
@@donmacmilly This comment was cringe.
I wonder if Eboni attended his recent shows. I saw him in Seattle with Chappelle. The thing with Seattle is we claim to be a very culturally diverse city, but it’s predominately filled with white people. So my opinion as a white dude could be skewed from that. His content in my show could’ve been different from others, but I didn’t think he pandered to white people. The joke I could see maybe upsetting people is him talking about living in a rich white neighborhood now, but I’ve heard the same premise for years now. Wish she could give an example of him pandering to white, but maybe she knows she’s bullshit lol
How would you if you're white?
@@aquarius-woman5364 wdym?
His movies since he got with Adam Sandler have pandered. Chris Rock been riding around with Rick Rubin in Porsche's for years coming up with material that degrades & embarrasses our people for a dollar, no different then Charlemagne does in every forum he has to line his pockets.
A pandera can't see another person pandering
A sensitive hypocrite can’t see another sensitive hypocrite.
Some people want segregation for some reason.
I’ve been saying this.. I’m black and I recently realized some black people don’t hate segregation they just want it on their terms.
She was right
They're saying he's anti black because he made jokes that could be perceived to make Jada Pinkett look bad.. they want to paint the criticism if Jada Pinkett as "misogynoir" and to do that it helps if Chris Rock can be framed as anti-black
She said that for attention which you gave her...lol
CR hands out with Chappelle, Kevin Heart they did a tour together in2022 - I’m so confused
Chris is definitely the white man's boy. They tolerate him nipping at their heels from time to time but he would never ever bite them. He's a good boy.
Funny how Shultz counts The slave movie as Wills “black movie” and not ALI smh
I gotta admit. His clip allowing Louis CK to use the N word made me look at him differently
Damn how is Chris gunna take this news ? 🤡
Why? Chris is comedian and the comedian’s loyalty is to the funny. Not to your sensitive feelings because you get triggered at a white man saying that word in jest. I bet you don’t say shit when rappers say that word at nauseam or when a black comedian says cracker. Fuckin hypocrites.
@@viperrecords3288 this is the most brain dead response I've ever seen. You can stfu about your feelings especially if you aren't black.
@@MrKrytikol Exactly what I thought. You have no argument proving my point that you’re just an emotional hypocrite who thinks you’re right because of your skin tone. You didn’t address any of my points because you’re an emotional hypocrite who’s not mature enough to have a conversation about comedy. Chris did nothing wrong. Take your sensitive ass outta here.
@@viperrecords3288 you had zero legitimate points. You had the ranting of a child. Why would i address you with any seriousness? Also, I'm allowed to feel however I want and don't have to justify to randoms online. So continue crying about how unfair it is that I can use a word that you shouldn't. No one said you can't use it. Just be prepared for the consequences of using it. Good bye.
Damn everybody hates chris
100% this is willsmith fans.
Yup
ctg loves to play oblivious when it involves someone he likes
FACTS!
Constantly
Never attack a true comedian about pandering.. Shultz GET EM!
Nah, I get it! It's not just his stand up, his movies too. It's been more later n his career. Mad people still tight he let Louis CK drop the N bomb unchecked!
Smh dats not his job pple in Hollywood dnt got swing on sum1 for sayin a racist word this ain't the streets Lol chris been reppin black pple since bring the pain some pple to young to know
@@7thswordsmenofthemist unchecked doesn't mean violence. As many others have stated, even Seinfeld was uncomfortable n spoke against it. Chris said nothing. "Reppin for black people"?? WTF does that mean?? U mean he made jokes to appease the black culture? U talking like he championed or pioneered some black movement! Meanwhile, da nigga was in scientology 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
@@KidFromQueens wow!!! jus looked at ya pic and ur using that word?!! ..ima slide outa this convo have a blessed day
@@7thswordsmenofthemist My Picture? 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤡
Tbh I never found him funny..but ik that's not the argument
Eeh...the "Talk with Comedians" thing was wrong no matter what context. Point blank. Buuut you go ahead and say that shit behind closed doors my guy if it makes you feel artistically funny or whatever🤔
Chris is on another higher level. Eboni is just hating because she doesn't know how to communicate outside her small bubble..lol
He does pander
No one knows who she is
@@excaliber8713 No he doesn’t
Ali and Williams father were black experience roles
Why has no one asked her what specific joke he said that made her think that? I saw him twice last year and aside from the Megan markle joke I don’t see where this take could come from…
She has it wrong.
Y'all wonder why Kevin samuels is so popular. There's nothing successful BM can do to gain respect from their women. Notice Eboni won't get canceled
Successful?
Like successfully ending up in jail all the time.
Chris on the low been pandering if you pay attention.
Naw it’s just y’all are sensitive.
Chris definitely panders. He purposely targeted jada, he let Louie CK and Ricky gervais say the N word
I never felt that he did that up to Tambourine and I don't know much since then.
If I'm honest his movies to me always seemed off after cb4/new jack city, there was to me a disconnect between his roll choices and his comedic choices/themes. I don't want to say sellout but like that type of feeling. I always just put it up to he wasn't a good actor. But I never have felt he was trying to OJ it.
Guess pple ain't see top 5 or good hair
@@7thswordsmenofthemisttop 5 is on my list but I haven't seen it but can see that being up there and I know little about good hair. But tbf on the movies I have seen they didn't make me excited to see others. If you know what I mean, did he have a new special, I'm excited, new movie apathetic...
I will at good hair to my list thought thanks.
Head of State just popped into my mind as a on the line movie but I think Bernie stole the show on that one again IMO.
Comedians in my experience that are good in movies are real character comedians like Eddie Murphy, Steve Martin, Kevin Hart, Martin Lawrence, Bernie Mac, Robin Williams, Jamie Fox etc.
Rock feels like he's in same class as Jon Stewart, Louis CK, Bill Burr, Patrice O'Neil,
Comedic murderer's, mid actors.
This is what happens when you’re not a real fan and you’re just going because it’s trendy because the joke Eboni was referring to is a callback from an iconic Chris Rock joke smh … stand up comedy ain’t for everybody especially women who are super literal and serious like her
This is why you don't ever trust what a feminist says they're just lonely sad and want to complain about something because you didn't compliment their nails get the hell out of here hating on Chris Rock
Rock has been doing that "Im not one of the N-words" bit for a long time. I don't fully disagree with Eboni on that point
She has never heard him speak. Chris Rock is all about black people.
She is grifting. There's a market for she's selling these days.
It’s not lost on me that char’s defense of rock is all old material. Speak on the video with Seinfield , Louis CK rock, and one more that I can’t remember. Seinfield was the only one who took issue with Louis using the n word. Rock was very much ok with this.
That's damn near 10 years old
That’s what I was thinking cause that’s the video that started the whole Chris Rock panders.
@@Niabutterfly27 And if you got offended then your too sensitive to have a conversation about comedy.
@@viperrecords3288 I'm not though, I think comedy is too censored now. I'm not cool with Chris allowing his white friends to say the n word. Also, that wasn't a comedy setting they were sitting around talking. The only one who had common sense was Seinfeld who openly said he didn't agree with CK and Ricky saying it.
@@Niabutterfly27 You’re definitely sensitive and hypocritical if you feel that way. Let’s have a real discussion about this topic. First the show was called “Talking Funny”. Which means they were having an open dialogue about comedy. Did you watch the whole thing or just bits and pieces?
The only thing people nit pick Schulz on is the fact he just at his ripe ol' age still can't find pants that fit him.
It began with Blacks vs Nwords and got progressively worse.
Sometimes success can make you afraid of losing it and prompt you to try and relate better to those holding the purse strings.
He dissed black women all through "Good Hair" - I mean
All
Through
It
Going so far as to tell Asian women to run if they so much as see a black woman.
Hosting the Oscars also led to more pasteurization including more us vs them but the us was now rich folk,
not black folk.
Even his take on black marginalization at the oscars seemed elitist -
if not dismissive.
You know who seems never see pandering?
The panderers and those being pondered to.
They deny it just like privilege.
U clearly didn't understand good hair if u think it wus dissing black women ...Nia long and them were in the movie cus it wusnt doin that at all wus about subject most pple wnt talk about shit wus fire
Big brother just another uneducated Caucasian hater
@@travispowell7835 and just like that,
*poof*
the denial begins.
smh
@@7thswordsmenofthemist Some parts where good, maybe even uplifting, that's true -
but some of the participants weren't aware of the overall tone of the project when they contributed.
And I, like many others, found that tone to be negative
@@bigbrothablu7810 This is a serious question and It would be very decent if you answer it honestly....rate A to D on what would be the most important and beneficial for African Americans today(write the letters in order the most important to least important)... A- talking about how much privilege white people have? B-white supremacy C-how white people are all out to get black people D- crime and murder rate in innercities
The Chris Rock i know from back in day NEVER pandered but maybe the fire and edginess has gone and that's what people are reacting to.
Courtney's(black karens) gettin offended over nothing...."I'm black but I'm not a nigga". Yea I fully agree with that....I am not ignorant by no means so don't call me that please
i been thought that
She wasn't saying that he's ALWAYS catered to White people, she's saying that NOW he's catering to White people. I haven't seen his new stuff, but his old stuff explained the Black experience for everyone, and we Black people understood it.
She is reaching heavy
I get that but, I don't see how he's pandering to white people now.
So nice to see truth stand over lies! Good job guys standing up for Chris.
Why he does pander
Most black comedians have to in order to gain a wider audience. All the popular comedians and entertainers have to do it no matter what race to gain appeal to different races and classes of people. Its called “selling out” or selling of the soul to get a wider reach in entertainment 😅
Yea selling out to *white people*
So just playing a role of the trash of the community isn't.
He kinda does and has been for a long time 🤷🏾♂️
It’s been going on for awhile. Most notably that jerry Seinfeld interview with Louis cj. Where they were saying the n word, and Chris said nothing. Or his documentary on black hair. I don’t agree with that take but I understand why people are saying that.
This the same chick that was on O Reily Factor 😂The grift is strong with this one.
George Lopez is a perfect example fake it till you make it.
Change lifelong fan to lifelong friend and just imagine how much it takes for that lady to turn on you
The talking funny clip with Louie isn’t offensive unless you’re offended by everything. Context matters. Every hater of Rock and Louie that praise Jerry in that clip, conveniently forget that he dated a 17 year old in his 30s.
Exactly
It's because white people with a sense of humor like Rock. Apparently being universally appreciated makes you a sale out. The joke she is offended by was in one his first specials..."life long fan", I think not.
Before Chappelle show ppl said the same about Chappelle
Thank you
She’s not wrong at all
CTG can't see it because he does it too
It's crazy how er1 love Chappelle if u go back and watch Chris specials r wayy more geared toward black pple than Dave's are...shit he had 2 turn down mills n go 2 africa cus of how white comedy central and Neil were Lmaoo if u dnt know u dnt know
@@7thswordsmenofthemist what does this have to do with my statement?
This isn’t new. He said he called the Bigger and Blacker special that in order to answer that same criticism (back in the late 90s). Of course Charlemagne don’t get it
Chris got slapped for disrespect. Y’all just shocked that Will Smith checked him on sight. Something y’all don’t have the heart to do
He got slander for for talking about jada. Ppl think Jada is the spokesman for black ppl
Jada is a spokesman for herself and Augus alsina that's it
Jada has never been the leader if balcks
Yes...Chris DOES pander to Whites with his humor.
At least 50% of Black comics
do.
As does 60% of hip-hop.
Facts.
Didn’t he have a whole bit about the difference between black people and the n word people.
Personal, she hates him
Maybe not pandering but he has seemed to move his career a bit towards them
?!
Dnt see how sum1 cud watch tambourine n come to that conclusion Lol
Chris used to incessantly make jokes about poor whites idk where this narrative came from
woman made his point, if that was indeed his point
But CTG does the exact same... so I understand
I loved his special!❤❤ good job Chris!
Listen, I remember when Chris “arrived” and then the tone of his comedy changed. When EKW made that comment I knew where she was coming from. And unfortunately Chris has that whole video floating around where he gave his comedian friends permission to say the Nword (Seinfeld declined because he ain’t stupid 😆).
I like Chris and I like his comedy for the most part, but he has pandered to White folks at times during his comedy career. Its not the end of the world, especially since we can never be Black enough for some folks.
at 2:56 Charlamagne seems to be looking in disbelief and amazement after hearing the Dentist joke