Shaykh Suliman Gani | Moon Wars: Following Saudi vs Local Sighting | BB #63
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- In this timely episode of the Blood Brothers Podcast, Dilly Hussain speaks with Shaykh Suliman Gani from Purley Mosque and the New Crescent Society. #BloodBrothersPodcast #ShaykhSulimanGani #MoonWars
Topics of discussion include:
- When is Eid al-Adha?
- Should we follow local, regional or global sighting?
- How reliable is Saudi Arabia’s Umm al-Qura calendar?
- Is the Hajj of the pilgrims accepted if the Islamic calendar date is wrong?
- Can UK mosques unite on local moon-sighting?
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Two sufi ashari muqalidoon lol one an effeminate fasiq according to the hanafi madhab and the other a hypocrite deobandi lol
We all need to start our own moon sighting organisation in the UK, why do we need Saudi or morroco, let's stay fully local and have everyone sighting, this is possible! Keep the uk unity
ideally yh but if we did that we will be way behind others as we barely see the cresent. wifaqul follow UK and if not seen here then established sighting committee from morroco and south africa who are in same time zone
Totally agree…
See what mufti had said and sheikh Assim.
Is this not what Wifaqul Ulama do? A group of almost 100 scholars. Maybe I’m wrong
Can you please define what is local sightings? If England sight the new moon does it mean Scotland can't base themselves on the sightings of England?
Or if the Muslims in the UK sight the moon, then does it mean that the Muslims in France should not accept the sightings in the UK?
This local sightings is dividing the Ummah.....
Only if we are unified under 1 Imam, 1 Sultan that the Ruler will resolve our differences....
@@saheb3027
U.K. sighting means all of England.
Local sighting is the way forward and has not even really started, slowly people are realising.
So local sighting is not causing the issue.
We’re causing the issue by following what is told not to be followed by the Saudis and here we are today in this position.
I believe dilly was asking q's that were emotionally weighted. Sheikh handled it beautifully. Extremely technical subject, may Allah unite us on haq.
The irony in all of this is that the SAUDI scholars themselves have said that we MUST NOT follow their moon sightings. If you don't believe me then here is a link were a SAUDI scholar sitting in Masjid Al Haram explaining to the audience that you must follow your own local moon sighting and NOT follow Saudi Arabia if you live elsewhere (fb.watch/v/5hJhgyC3x/ ) please check out this link if you don’t believe me. But again people will still blindly follow Saudi Arabia and celebrate Eid on the wrong day as they have too much pride and arrogance to admit their mistakes. I mean how will they explain to their friends and family that they have incorrectly been following Saudi Arabia for the last 34 years. Take this podcast as a prime example, Dilly was given plenty of clear proofs that Eid cannot be on Tuesday and it must be on Wednesday but Dilly was just dismissive and still wanted to celebrate Eid on Tuesday.
That's part of his job. He is the interviewer and has to play devil's advocate a lot of the time. He does that with most of the people he interviews. Ameen
What u find astonishing is the sheikh has given so much proofs that eid is on Wednesday but dilly still saying he will do eid on Tuesday. Amazing
It’s mind boggling isn’t it. This is a prime example of blindly following Saudi Arabia. If Saudi Arabia announced Eid on Monday then they would blindly follow it without challenging it.
Not really. I live in a community with only one mosque. What am I suppose to do? Do I do eid on separate day from the rest of my whole town and family? Until the Ulemah in the UK organise as a collective body and stipulate a day for us, we as individual are pretty much buggered
@@wackypeace1135 show the mosque Committee this video and ask them why they are not following the proper procedure of moon sighting rather than blind following Saudi Arabia
@@mohammedkhan1531 you can try and show this video to the committee but you will only get a dismissive response (Dilly's reaction being a prime example). The reason why they wont stop blindly following saudi arabia is because they will then have to answer for the past 34 years and their pride and arrogance will not allow them to accept they have made a mistake by blindly following saudi arabia.
@@wackypeace1135 its not the fault of the general lay muslim and in shaa Allah your eid will be accepted even if you celebrated it on tuesday, HOWEVER if you watched this video and STILL celebrated eid on tuesday then that individual only has himself/herself to blame as the evidences provided by the shiekh in this podcast is plain and clear for all to understand.
May Allah Accept your works, and make it a means of acceptance and Guidance for the Ummah!
ameen
The sheikh is spot on, I changed my view after evaluating everything.
stop watching anime if you do :)
Stay away from anime as much as you can. Lots of hidden satanism, unislamic values, girls dressed immodestly, zina and haram relationships, promotion of shirk. I was addicted, stopped alhamdoulillah and I don't feel empty anymore and my heart is more soft to the remembrance of Allah and more open to His guidance alhamdoulillah!
@@sisterfleur7523 jazakallah khair
@@sisterfleur7523 Thanks for your advice, but I haven't watched anime for quite some time.
Asc dilly and Aki all of you introducing all the mashaiq and ullamaa and other people. I really love it this podcast because it’s very informative and education. I am watching all the way Minnesota. God bless all.
Alhamdullilah, he's my local imam 😊
Wifaqul ulema have a very transparent moonsighting system in place.
Volunteers are situated around the UK with the correct equipment to sight the moon.
Please search their lectures on this subject.
Trivializing a simple instruction of The Beloved Prophet Sallalahu Alahyi Wasalam is a fascinating trait of the very highly educated 21st century muslims.
I for one is very impressed!
Salaam everyone, for those wondering what to do when their Masjid's locally refuse to use local sighting, you only need 2 (or 3 in some madhabs) to make a congregation. If your wife and kids, or your siblings agree with you that eid is on a different day to what your local Masjid says, lead eid prayers at home. Being doing this for several years now myself as rarely a Masjid in driving distance doing it by local sightings.
Amazing my brother. Following the Haq is extremely important even when those around you are not
Great episode would love to also hear the other side of the argument too
You can hear the other side of the argument on this link fb.watch/v/5hJhgyC3x/
The irony in all of this is that the SAUDI scholars themselves have said that we MUST NOT follow their moon sightings. If you don't believe me then here is a link were a SAUDI scholar sitting in Masjid Al Haram (in makka) explaining to the audience that you must follow your own local moon sighting and NOT follow Saudi Arabia if you live elsewhere (fb.watch/v/5hJhgyC3x/ ) please check out this link if you don’t believe me. But again people will still blindly follow Saudi Arabia and celebrate Eid on the wrong day as they have too much pride and arrogance to admit their mistakes. I mean how will they explain to their friends and family that they have incorrectly been following Saudi Arabia for the last 34 years. Take this podcast as a prime example, Dilly was given plenty of clear proofs that Eid cannot be on Tuesday and it must be on Wednesday but Dilly was just dismissive and still wanted to celebrate Eid on Tuesday.
here is the other side of the argument broadcasted on Islam Channel ruclips.net/video/abGMp9Fv2SY/видео.html . you can now make an informed decision on whether you will follow Saudi Arabia or Local Moon sightings. Hope this helps. Sallams
What surprises me the most is that people will blindly follow Saudi Arabia and then claim that it is only the Pakistani’s and Barewi’s that do Eid on a different day which could not be further from the truth. Here is a SAUDI scholar sitting in Masjid Ul Haram explaining that you must follow your own local moon sighting and NOT follow Saudi Arabia if you live elsewhere (fb.watch/v/5hJhgyC3x/ )please check out this link if you don’t believe me. However you will still get people claiming Pakistani and barewi’s are causing disunity when the SAUDI scholars themselves tell the people to not follow the Saudi moon sighting reports. But again people will still blindly follow Saudi Arabia and celebrate Eid on the wrong day as they have too much pride and arrogance to admit their mistakes. May Allah guide us all and remain steadfast on the Haq even when those around us are not. Ameen
Eid Mubarak to all my brothers and sisters
Asalamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatu
Wifaqul ulema uk which is a branch of deoband school are also following local moon sighting.
Sulaiman Ghani is a divisive figure intent on Saudi Bashing and not taking sightings other than his own Mehmon community in the UK and South Africa.........
Saudi Arabia has never stated that we must all fast with them.
Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked about those who call for the ummah to be united in fasting and for the moon sighting to be based on its sighting in Makkah. He said:
This is impossible from an astronomical point of view, because the sighting of the new moon, as Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said, differs, according to the scientists who are well-versed in this field. Because it differs, then each country should have its own ruling, according to the reports and according to science.
The evidence from reports is the verse in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“So whoever of you sights (the crescent on the first night of) the month (of Ramadan i.e. is present at his home), he must observe Sawm (fasts) that month”
[al-Baqarah 2:185]
Islamqa.
This is the problem and brother dilly acts out the problem brilliantly in this video. People want to do what they feel is right based on no evidence but just on what feels good and on the other side the shaykh is explaining what IS ACTUALLY RIGHT AND THE RIGHT WAY TO DO THINGS
Nicely Summarised at the End Dilly! Well done bro and keep up the good work.
Good work? After so many proofs given by the sheikh yes he still wants to blind follow Saudi. People like you will never change even if you have given 1000s of proofs of what's right or wrong
Good work??? Is this post a hoax? He consistently refused to accept the evidence provided by the sheikh and then had the audacity to accuse the sheikh that he will be fasting on Eid 41:30 This is now beyond a joke and needs to be called out for what it is... but unfortunately you will always have people who will blindly follow Saudi Arabia as they do not have the courage to finally admit their previous mistakes in following the incorrect Um Al Qura calendar and to save face they will just laugh and make a joke out of it.
Mohammed Khan
What surprises me the most is that people will blindly follow Saudi Arabia and then claim that it is only the Pakistani’s and Barewi’s that do Eid on a different day which could not be further from the truth. Here is a SAUDI scholar sitting in Masjid Ul Haram explaining that you must follow your own local moon sighting and NOT follow Saudi Arabia if you live elsewhere (fb.watch/v/5hJhgyC3x/) please check out this link if you don’t believe me. However you will still get people claiming Pakistani and barewi’s are causing disunity when the SAUDI scholars themselves tell the people to not follow the Saudi moon sighting reports. But again people will still blindly follow Saudi Arabia and celebrate Eid on the wrong day as they have too much pride and arrogance to admit their mistakes. May Allah guide us all and remain steadfast on the Haq even when those around us are not. Ameen
Eid Mubarak to all my brothers and sisters
@@shabirhussain6437 may allah keep us on the haq. Proud to be a breilvy. Alhumdulilah
@@mohammedkhan1531 Yes of course great work. Dilly asked some very good questions which the sheikh answered.
I follow local sightings myself and I also acknowledge the hard work Dilly is putting into these podcasts.
Not sure what's up in the UK but in Australia masjids who are generally affiliated with tabligh or deoband strictly follow local moonsighting lol.
Thank Allah! in the UK we have too many wahabis or people who just want to get eid over with as quickly as possible.
Most deobandi mosques here follow Saudi blindly.
A K What surprises me the most is that people will blindly follow Saudi Arabia and then claim that it is only the Pakistani’s and Barewi’s that do Eid on a different day which could not be further from the truth. Here is a SAUDI scholar sitting in Masjid Ul Haram explaining that you must follow your own local moon sighting and NOT follow Saudi Arabia if you live elsewhere (fb.watch/v/5hJhgyC3x/) please check out this link if you don’t believe me. However you will still get people claiming Pakistani and barewi’s are causing disunity when the SAUDI scholars themselves tell the people to not follow the Saudi moon sighting reports. But again people will still blindly follow Saudi Arabia and celebrate Eid on the wrong day as they have too much pride and arrogance to admit their mistakes. May Allah guide us all and remain steadfast on the Haq even when those around us are not. Ameen
Eid Mubarak to all my brothers and sisters
@@shabirhussain6437 exactly! Racism has also sneaked into out religion now
Mao Dijong
racism? Is this Mao?
If there was a blackout in the whole world then who do we follow ????
Local is the right way to follow.
Asalam aleikum my country has the same time zone as saud Arabia though it is in Africa so should I also follow my local sighting ?
@@Nat-ot5qo if there was a blackout out what would you do ? Follow who ??
@@Nat-ot5qo stick to your own local sighting which i assume will be which Masjid you go to
Long overdue topic brother
What about the use of calendar predictions used by Saudi Arabia is that not a bidah
Unfortunately alot of the masajids are effectively "old men's club"; people who are refuse to go against a tradition they've been following for years. The tide is shifting amongst the younger generations but it is slow change. We need more people in positions of authority and leadership to come forward and make the issue clear. For a lot of lay people they will follow their local maasajids. Very tricky issue as if u onoy havr a small portion making this change its as if they are going against the jaama'at
What surprises me the most is that people will blindly follow Saudi Arabia and then claim that it is only the Pakistani’s and Barewi’s that do Eid on a different day which could not be further from the truth. Here is a SAUDI scholar sitting in Masjid Ul Haram explaining that you must follow your own local moon sighting and NOT follow Saudi Arabia if you live elsewhere (fb.watch/v/5hJhgyC3x/ )please check out this link if you don’t believe me. However you will still get people claiming Pakistani and barewi’s are causing disunity when the SAUDI scholars themselves tell the people to not follow the Saudi moon sighting reports. But again people will still blindly follow Saudi Arabia and celebrate Eid on the wrong day as they have too much pride and arrogance to admit their mistakes. May Allah guide us all and remain steadfast on the Haq even when those around us are not. Ameen
Eid Mubarak to all my brothers and sisters
The ones who go on about bidah all the time are doing bidah Akbar in this regard, the irony. By following the text and authentic sunnah, you would follow your own country, simple as that. What people don’t understand is that if we wait for North America to announce the moon we have to delay our Eid/ start of Ramadan announcement and can go into wrong doing by doing so if the announcement doesn’t come and we miss Eid prayer/ taraweeh. Who in the time of the prophet followed neighbouring countries? No one. The sahabah who dispersed into different were given a specific instruction, this is clear, this is sunnah. People who think they are doing right by following Saudi ‘because it’s the centre of Islam’ are in la la land. The whole universe belongs to Allah, Islam doesn't belong to Saudi Arabia. Even Saudi Arabia have said in the past 'Follow your own country in this regard, not our country' yet it's still being done, why? They have even got in wrong in the past where they had to pay the whole country's Kaffarah, fact - do your research! This is not a question of science, this is not a question of logic, it’s a question of what we are advised to do according to Hadith. Those following Hadith to the letter are doing the right thing, the safe thing and can’t be questioned as the intention is to follow the SUNNAH. Subhan’Allah. I hope the best for the crescent society and I will contribute on my part moving forward. #moonwars #Islam #eidannouncement #UK
‘Abdullāh bin ‘Umar (radiyallāhu ‘anhu) stated: I heard Allah’s Messenger (salallāhu ‘alaihi wasallam) saying: “Fast when you see the moon, and cease fasting when you see it but if it is cloudy for you then count the month [as thirty days].”[1]
In a narration, he (salallāhu ‘alaihi wasallam) said: “If it is cloudy for you, count out thirty days.”[2]
In another narration, he said: “Complete the number of days as thirty.”[3]
Jazakallahu Khayran Ahsanul Jaza
Good effort and podcast by Dilly. Whilst well intended, Dilly and most of us are laymen, and are delving into matters that are well beyond us. I mean we can only go so far into the discussion and then for us laymen to agree or disagree becomes completely irrelevant. Most of the scholars of Sheikh Ghani's calibre have studied for years and are masters of hadith, Arabic, logic and deduction so when we as laymen who just about know how to pray, try discussing these matters it goes over our heads and our limitations shaping such dialogue is very erroneous and will lead to more confusion.
Brother dilly, you keep telling sheikh that his doing a bid'ah by using astronomy and rejecting testimony from a fellow believer. Isnt the um al qura calendar itself a bid'ah aswell? Where in the sunnah did a month start based on predictions and calculations?
From my perspective, Sheikh is using ilm to reject falsehood. Not using astornomy as a bid'ah as you are trying to portray. But who am i ? Just a layman commenting on RUclips and Allahu Alam. Keep up the good work!
Hmmm there is a Hadith where the sunnah was to count the days of the month of shaban to calculate the first day of Ramadan right ?
Is there any proof in Islam to calculate prayer time ?
I did not know that thank you and may bless you.
Dilly always into his t-shirts
Elhamdulillah
Impossible for moon to be born Tues in Mecca 🌙Wednesday was Eid just don't forget that.
Alhamdulillah
Even though the sheikh gave many proofs that Eid cannot be on Tuesday but again and again Dilly was unwilling to change his stance. This is a prime example of blindly following Saudi Arabia. If Saudi Arabia announced Eid on Monday they would blindly follow it without ever challenging it. If Saudi Arabia announced that everyone should do a starjump on Eid then those that blindly follow Saudi Arabia would probably do a starjump (ridiculous I know).
Lol lets just blindly follow pakistan instead. explain why you do Eid on the same day as pakistan? 🤔
@@ahk3394 What surprises me the most is that people will blindly follow Saudi Arabia and then claim that it is only the Pakistani’s and Barewi’s that do Eid on a different day which could not be further from the truth. Here is a SAUDI scholar sitting in Masjid Ul Haram explaining that you must follow your own local moon sighting and NOT follow Saudi Arabia if you live elsewhere (fb.watch/v/5hJhgyC3x/ )please check out this link if you don’t believe me. However you will still get people claiming Pakistani and barewi’s are causing disunity when the SAUDI scholars themselves tell the people to not follow the Saudi moon sighting reports. But again people will still blindly follow Saudi Arabia and celebrate Eid on the wrong day as they have too much pride and arrogance to admit their mistakes. May Allah guide us all and remain steadfast on the Haq even when those around us are not. Ameen
Eid Mubarak to all my brothers and sisters
Jazakallah hukayran🤲🏼
This whole conversation Is the reason why the Islamic community is so divided on this matter.
Indo pak scholars are causing the problems
@Hassan Ahmed yh they always want to do it on a different day because of vahbees
@@hiddenwobbler9890 you do realise it is impossible for the whole world to do Eid on the same day, it seems like you guys have failed school 🤣🤣🤣
@@basetnourestani1583 its impossible? have you studied astronomy?
@@hiddenwobbler9890 Yes it’s impossible.
Imagine its the year 1900, one Muslim living in France and the other in Mekkah (Saudi Arabia didnt exist), both Muslims dont know eachother but happen to sight the new moon of Ramadan on the same date. Towards the end of the Ramadan the Muslim in Mekkah completes 29 days of fasting and sights the new moon and does Eid the next day.
But the French Muslim doesnt see a new moon so what does he do? He has no telephone communication or satellite image of whats happening in Arabia, and is unaware that they are doing Eid the next day. So the French Muslim has to complete 30 days, and even if he doesn't see the new moon on the 30th day he will have to do Eid because the Islamic months are either 29 or 30 days.
So Eid celebration is always based on the local moon cycle, not Saudi Arabia.
You can’t use logic like this because you will be called a innovator
@@shabirhussain6437 what i wrote is fact, no one can deny it, there is no other way, the months are all based on moon sighting NOT following Saudis, they have been around approx 100 years whereas islam has been around over 1400 years. This is the Sunnah, and there is no evidence you can give to prove it wrong cos its not a theory, its fact!!
Tik Tok I agree
@22:30
I always thought that the moon is a vessel that gets filled with light
Why didnt sheikh just explain the islamic ruling on following the moon?
He did but it still was not enough to convince certain people. I guess some people will blindly follow Saudi Arabia no matter how much evidence is shown to them
Dilly doesnt understand that you cannot trust a person who claims to see the new moon if its not scientifically possible to see the new moon
Science saids alot of things like miracles can't scientifically occur, but you still believe it don't you
A H K come on A H K! If it is scientifically impossible to see the moon then how can you possibly accept a testimony from a Muslim that he saw the moon. I mean if we go by your logic that science has said a lot but then miracles have occurred I mean what’s next. If someone states that they saw a pig flying in the sky would you believe his testimony?
@@shaba555 And if we go by your logic, Isra wal miraj must of been a made up story like pigs in the sky? I wonder what the scientists say about that? 🤔
A H K Isra wal miraj is not a made up story as it is in the quran brother but nowhere does it state in the Quran and Sunnah that you must follow Saudi Arabia for moon sighting, in fact the sunnah is sighting the moon in your local area with the naked eye. However, some people would rather blindly follow Saudi Arabia and then have the audacity to accuse others of bid’ah and shirk.
@@shaba555 The sad thing is nearly all of Dilly"s community follow Saudi in moon sighting
Humdulilah listend to the podcast, very interesting, it is only just that you bring on the podcast someone from the other side to give their arguments as to why they do what they do.
Dilly's account of the Hadith is completely wrong btw, he said it was accepted but it wasn't.
Kurayb repoted: I came to Syria and tended to my needs. The crescent of Ramadan appeared over me while I was in Syria and I saw it on Friday, then I came to Medina at the end of the month. Abdullah ibn Abbas, may Allah be pleased with him, asked me about it and I mentioned the crescent. Ibn Abbas said, “When did you see it?” I said, “We saw it on Friday night.” Ibn Abbas said, “You saw it?” I said, “Yes, people saw it and they fasted, as did Mu’awiyah.” Ibn Abbas said, “But we saw it on Saturday night, so we will continue fasting until we complete thirty days or we see it.” I said, “Is it not enough that Mu’awiyah saw it and he fasted?” Ibn Abbas said, “No, such was the command of the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1087
How about this hadith???
A desert Arab came to the Holy Prophet and said, “I have seen the new moon i.e. the new moon of Ramadan.” He asked, “do you testify that there is no god but Allah?” he said: yes. He then asked: do you testify that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah?” He said, “Yes.” So, the Messenger of Allah said, “O Bilal, announce to the people that they must fast tomorrow.” [Sunan Abi Dawud, Vol. 1, Page 320 and Tirmidhi, Vol. 1, Page 148]
@@TA-vu9se the Hadith makes no mention of the distance between the moon sighting and the Prophet, so you can't use it to prove global sightings.
@@NK-vd8xi Then in what situation is the hadith applied to? Are you also saying that the day of Arafah for the pilgrims which was on Monday should have been on Tuesday for other muslims ??? Or are they both right?
@@TA-vu9se this isn't a contentious topic, scholars from all over the world have said the day of Arafah is always on the 9th of Dhul-Hijjah for each location, and need not to sync with the day the pilgrims are doing it. Please provide an opinion from a scholar stating otherwise.
@@TA-vu9se according to the actual moonsighting, the day of Arafah for the pilgrims should also have been Tuesday, it would have only been on Monday for those in the far West. Saudi went to look for the moon a day too early because their calendar isn't a purely Islamic calendar, they do not do sightings for every month. The pilgrims are without blame as they follow the authority.
The presenter of this podcast plays the Bid’ah card by stating that using astronomy and rejecting the testimony of a fellow Muslim but Its okay for him to follow the Saudi Arabian Um Al Qura calendar which itself is based on astronomy... This is double standards of the highest degree and The presenter of this podcast needs to consider his position for the future but I highly doubt he will ever stop blindly following Saudi Arabia.
Its called playing devils advocate to get every perspective lol. So that all questions which are posed by different muslims with different views are answered.
I wonder if Mohsen had a fit when Shiekh Suliman Gani mentioned the name of shiekh Haitham 😨. I can just picture how he must have been reacting when he was editing this video 😆. Bless Mohsen. Evidently his love for the Shiekh is great. May Allah resurrect Mohsen with those that he loves. Ameen 😇
@gibreya I love Shaikh Haitham as well. Very much in fact. But I love our prophet Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasallam the MOST. Who do you love?
Whabbis are here to ruin our beautyful deen our master Sayidina Muhammad SAWS was sent to teach all mankind. ☝️❤
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The Stars in the Noble Quran: In Surah 6: 97: It is He Who maketh the Stars (as beacons) for you, that ye may guide yourselves, with their help, through the dark spaces of land and sea: We detail Our Signs for people who know.
How are we introducing a bida to determine the day of eid when the study of astronomy isn't even a bid'a.
Why follow Saudi especially when they've repeatedly made mistakes when it comes to the sighting they're not exactly a trustworthy source and why exempt yourself from gaining the reward of trying to sight the moon yourself .
Let's get together and start going by sighting the moon in the UK. For the sake of certainty when it comes to fasting, the day of ararfah and qurbani and for the sake of unity!
shaykh doesn’t know the right way to tie an amama. Anyways he is right on this issue
Q1: At a time, there will always be more than one calendar day on earth, then how can we unite Eid in a single day all over the world?
A: Yes, there will be more than one calendar day at a time on earth since the earth is not flat. But that does not contradict the idea of "a given Day for a date". Just like Jumua Day and Jumua prayer. When some people do Jumua on Friday, some people will be sleeping on Thursday night. But they also perform Juma prayer whenever Jumua Day comes to them.
Q2: To unite Eid, the earth should be flat, do you believe in the flat earth theory?
A: To unite the TIME the earth should be flat, we are NOT demanding to unite the time but to unite the day. A calendar day is not reaching all people together, there is an order to reach the day as the earth rotates, so Eid will come along with the day, not at the same TIME as in the flat earth theory.
Q3: The Gregorian civil day starts at Midnight but Islamic day starts at Magrib, then how can we unite?
A: There may be multiple calendars in the world starting at noon, 9 PM, midnight, 3 AM, etc all will contradict the Islamic calendar. But we are not considering any of the calendars, they don't have any dependency or impact on the Islamic calendar. So just forget them all. Only concentrate on the Islamic calendar which starts at the first prayer of an Islamic civil day. The Islamic civil date and day start along with the prayer time.
Q4: Why don't we use an International lunar date line?
A: The conjunction point on earth will change every month every year. So, we cannot fix it, and it may run through a state, city, or even on a Masjid. To start a month, the purpose of the Hilal is to determine the Day, NOT to find the starting position of a Day. The first day of the month will start on earth as normal as the rest of the days of the month start on earth.
Q5: If we cannot see the Hilal all over the world in a single day, then how can we unite Eid?
A: The Hilal may not be visible all over a state or all over a county. Only reports of the Hilal are enough to start the month. See appendix E for more details.
Q6: If you are trying to unite Eid day, then why don't you unite prayer time?
A: We are not uniting Eid prayer time but uniting Eid day. Time is based on the sun’s position. Eid prayer time will be different from location to location.
Funny seeing a Hanafi scholar arguing for local sighting. The official position of Imam Abu Hanifa and the school is global sighting because of the command صوموا being general and binding on everyone.
جزاك الله خيرًا
Can you explain this? I don't understand
Ye but as the sheikh mentioned Umm all qura commenced dhul qaidah on the day of an eclipse which is impossible as the hilal cant be sighted. This meant that they asked for ppl to look for the hilal on the 28th (29th on their calendar) which obviously wouldn't be sighted to they complete 30 days. Sometimes umm all qura adjust their calendar for the month they didn't sight but they didn't. Global sighting may be a valid opinion but how can you take Saudi moonsighting as an authority with the obvious blunders and errors
They're making ppl do hajj on the wrong day lol they're doing it wrong in their own country why should we take their sighting in our own countries
@@hamzahh8787 If you really believe in the absolute invalidity of the Saudi sighting, then you should also go against them when you are there in Hajj. You can't have it both ways. Either there sighting is categorically incorrect and theres no scope of following them or it's acceptable even if you doubt their methods. In which case global sighting comes into play. Besides my reply was with regards to the way the Sheikh was arguing against global sighting, not the Saudi issue per say. The Sheikh should have made it clear to his Hanafi followers that his position is against the mutamad of the madhab. Thats all.
if ur living in UK id does not matter what Saudi or Iran says just sight the moon ur self
The irony in all of this is that the SAUDI scholars themselves have said that we MUST NOT follow their moon sightings. If you don't believe me then here is a link were a SAUDI scholar sitting in Masjid Al Haram explaining to the audience that you must follow your own local moon sighting and NOT follow Saudi Arabia if you live elsewhere (fb.watch/v/5hJhgyC3x/ ) please check out this link if you don’t believe me. But again people will still blindly follow Saudi Arabia and celebrate Eid on the wrong day as they have too much pride and arrogance to admit their mistakes. I mean how will they explain to their friends and family that they have incorrectly been following Saudi Arabia for the last 34 years. Take this podcast as a prime example, Dilly was given plenty of clear proofs that Eid cannot be on Tuesday and it must be on Wednesday but Dilly was just dismissive and still wanted to celebrate Eid on Tuesday.
Presenter fails to understand.
He doesn't fail to understand, he doesn't want to understand. (blind follower)
Or guest repeats same rubbish answer to every question. but the astronomical data... Even science isnt 100% correct all the time but the shaykh is 100% sure of moon visibility 😂
A H K “same rubbish answer” you also sound like a blind follower
Dilly totally distorts the hadith of Kurayb at 6:00. It demonstrates the exact opposite of what he is asserting. First, it was during the rule of Mu’awiya, not the lifetime of the Prophet (peace be upon him). Kurayb was in Syria for some personal business when Ramadan arrived, then returned to Medina. Which catching up with him, Ibn ‘Abbas asked about the moon. Kurayb said she saw it on the eve of Friday, so Mu’awiya and the people of Syria fasted on Saturday. Ibn ‘Abbas said they saw it in Medina on Saturday, and that they would therefore fast until either seeing the next crescent or completing thirty days. When Kurayb as why he would not suffice with the sighting accepted my Mu’awiya-that is, retroactively counting Saturday as the first of Ramadan-Ibn ‘Abbas said, “No. This is how the Messenger ordered us.” So Ibn ‘Abbas did not impose the Syrian sighting on the people of Medina.
This is basic literacy that ulema have. Dilly shouldn’t be spouting off and distorting hadith to substantiate his point.
The more I watch this podcast the worst it gets for Dilly. He was given clear proof at 1:05:00 were it was impossible to see the moon due to the solar eclipse meaning the Um Al Qura Callander is wrong and Eid cannot be on Tuesday but he would still not change his stance and instead laughed and made a joke of it. Dilly keeps mentioning unity and suggests we should all do Eid on Tuesday but he fails to understand that you cannot unite on falsehood.1:25:00
I think what dilly was doing was
trying to ask questions what the general public are confused on.
@@billplant2020 What surprises me the most is that people will blindly follow Saudi Arabia and then claim that it is only the Pakistani’s and Barewi’s that do Eid on a different day which could not be further from the truth. Here is a SAUDI scholar sitting in Masjid Ul Haram explaining that you must follow your own local moon sighting and NOT follow Saudi Arabia if you live elsewhere (fb.watch/v/5hJhgyC3x/ )please check out this link if you don’t believe me. However you will still get people claiming Pakistani and barewi’s are causing disunity when the SAUDI scholars themselves tell the people to not follow the Saudi moon sighting reports. But again people will still blindly follow Saudi Arabia and celebrate Eid on the wrong day as they have too much pride and arrogance to admit their mistakes. May Allah guide us all and remain steadfast on the Haq even when those around us are not. Ameen
Eid Mubarak to all my brothers and sisters
Really disappointed with the majority of mosques around where I live. I was limited to a few Brehlwi ones to go to for Eid.
What surprises me the most is that people will blindly follow Saudi Arabia and then claim that it is only the Pakistani’s and Barewi’s that do Eid on a different day which could not be further from the truth. Here is a SAUDI scholar sitting in Masjid Ul Haram explaining that you must follow your own local moon sighting and NOT follow Saudi Arabia if you live elsewhere (fb.watch/v/5hJhgyC3x/) please check out this link if you don’t believe me. However you will still get people claiming Pakistani and barewi’s are causing disunity when the SAUDI scholars themselves tell the people to not follow the Saudi moon sighting reports. But again people will still blindly follow Saudi Arabia and celebrate Eid on the wrong day as they have too much pride and arrogance to admit their mistakes. May Allah guide us all and remain steadfast on the Haq even when those around us are not. Ameen
Eid Mubarak to all my brothers and sisters
If a large asteroid were to fly past the moon and earth it WILL affect the system and would render any proceeding calculations wrong. That's why it's done by naked eye, there and then at the time. The solar system is complex and like Dilly mentioned these are calculations based on premises made by men
If you already have the calculations and the so called astronomical data. why do you need to go and sight the moon? Because its the sunnah of the prophet sallalahu alayhi wasalaam? Yes the same way your astronomical data isn't.
But it’s okay for you to blindly follow Saudi Arabia who also use astronomical data. Your double standard are clear for everyone to see. It’s bidd’ah when someone else uses astronomy but when your beloved Saudi Arabia use astronomy then that’s ok. This is a prime example of blindly following Saudi Arabia.
@@shabirhussain6437 Do you go and see the moon or do you follow the testimony of someone from nearest muslim country say morroco? So your a blind follower too? Explain why do you do eid on the same day as Pakistan even though they are half way around the world... 🤔
A H K the sunnah is go out to see the moon on the 29th if you don’t see the moon then complete 30 days. It’s very simple when you follow the Quran and sunnah
@@shabirhussain6437 Yes thank you genius. I think we all know what the sunnah is. But the question is do you go and physically see the moon? no you don't you blind follower
@@ahk3394 The irony in all of this is that the SAUDI scholars themselves have said that we MUST NOT follow their moon sightings. If you don't believe me then here is a link were a SAUDI scholar sitting in Masjid Al Haram explaining to the audience that you must follow your own local moon sighting and NOT follow Saudi Arabia if you live elsewhere (fb.watch/v/5hJhgyC3x/ ) please check out this link if you don’t believe me. But again people will still blindly follow Saudi Arabia and celebrate Eid on the wrong day as they have too much pride and arrogance to admit their mistakes. I mean how will they explain to their friends and family that they have incorrectly been following Saudi Arabia for the last 34 years. Take this podcast as a prime example, Dilly was given plenty of clear proofs that Eid cannot be on Tuesday and it must be on Wednesday but Dilly was just dismissive and still wanted to celebrate Eid on Tuesday
Just follow ur local masjid. Both sides are from valid views. Saying one is incorrect thats wrong. This is an academic issue.
Sheikh Imran Hosein has also spoken on this topic
Sheik !? Are you joking
@@rameezahamed No I am.not I am quite serious
Sheikh Imran Hosein is my favourite
I usually don't speak out unless there is a need. Regarding Imran Hossain , he is a clear lier. For further proof, check out videos that are in RUclips, especially that of Abu Mussab Wajdi Akkari (I don't completely agree with him either.., but he has genuine point to make at your favourite Sheik..) With open mindedness , please watch it.
@@rameezahamed You listen to Abu Layth and you tell me not to listen to Sheikh Imran Hosein
@@SalmaiChicken Abu layth 😂 is also your favourite ?
So those that rant biddah and shirk liners and say “it doesn’t say to do this and that in Quran and sunnah”…. Where’s your flipping daleels now on following saudi even after they themselves are telling you to stick to local moonsighting !
Straight after eid is over.. they will go all 2pac again with shaven heads and combat clothing gear.
“The ignorant are ignorant of their ignorance”.
(Bark with replies now.. my silence will be saying lakh lanti to you behind the scenes”.
These people are just ignorant plain and simple
I have to post again, I rewatched this in bits and Dilly just comes across even worse upon second viewing....comments below make him look worse haha Dilly be starting his Ramadan by going back 8 hours in time to North America
The sheikh repeating the same point for 100 minutes lol Dilly man you listening ?
@@maodijong3661 What surprises me the most is that people will blindly follow Saudi Arabia and then claim that it is only the Pakistani’s and Barewi’s that do Eid on a different day which could not be further from the truth. Here is a SAUDI scholar sitting in Masjid Ul Haram explaining that you must follow your own local moon sighting and NOT follow Saudi Arabia if you live elsewhere (fb.watch/v/5hJhgyC3x/ )please check out this link if you don’t believe me. However you will still get people claiming Pakistani and barewi’s are causing disunity when the SAUDI scholars themselves tell the people to not follow the Saudi moon sighting reports. But again people will still blindly follow Saudi Arabia and celebrate Eid on the wrong day as they have too much pride and arrogance to admit their mistakes. May Allah guide us all and remain steadfast on the Haq even when those around us are not. Ameen
Eid Mubarak to all my brothers and sisters
Saudi, their incompetence knows no limits..
Bro, the Saud say not to follow their sighting but to follow our own local sightings.
@@DawahDigital, Salam Brother, I get that..
But as they control the hajj timings its a big deal if they get hajj on the wrong dates..
Test Data my dear brother. Saudi Arabia control the hajj timings but this should be no reason to follow them if you are living in the UK. The Eid has no connection to Hajj as explained by the sheikh during the podcast. But again, even if clear evidences are shown some people will still blindly follow Saudi Arabia which is sad.
Can someone please give me a simple answer as to why Muslims in the UK follow Saudi Arabia in terms of Eid. Why are Muslims in the UK not following the moon sighting in there own country. Can someone please answer this because when ever I ask someone they give me a lousy answer or they just dodge the subject.
Many mosques in the UK are Saudi funded, so they follow Saudi, the people who follow those mosques don't really care when the true eid is as it is usually earlier than the correct eid so they get to finish Ramadan quickly for example. It's down to ignorance and selfishness.
As stated above brother and also another answer would be DEEP POCKETS
umer shaikh £££££
@@TheQuestionIsInTheAnswer
Do most of the mosques get funds from Saudi?
Sahih Muslim 1087
Kuraib reported that Umm Fadl, daughter of Harith, sent him (Fadl, i.e. her son) to Mu'awiya in Syria. I (Fadl) arrived in Syria, and did the needful for her. It was there in Syria that the month of Ramadan commenced. I saw the new moon (of Ramadan) on Friday. I then came back to Medina at the end of the month. Abdullah b. 'Abbas (Allah be pleased with him) asked me (about the new moon of Ramadan) and said:
When did you see it? I said: We saw it on the night of Friday. He said: (Did) you see it yourself? I said: Yes, and the people also saw it and they fasted and Mu'awiya also fasted, whereupon he said: But we saw it on Saturday night. So we will continue to fast till we complete thirty (fasts) or we see it (the new moon of Shawwal). I said: Is the sighting of the moon by Mu'awiya not valid for you? He said: No; this is how the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) has commanded us. Yahya b. Yahya was in doubt (whether the word used in the narration by Kuraib) was Naktafi or Taktafi.
حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ يَحْيَى، وَيَحْيَى بْنُ أَيُّوبَ، وَقُتَيْبَةُ، وَابْنُ، حُجْرٍ قَالَ يَحْيَى بْنُ يَحْيَى أَخْبَرَنَا وَقَالَ الآخَرُونَ، حَدَّثَنَا إِسْمَاعِيلُ، - وَهُوَ ابْنُ جَعْفَرٍ - عَنْ مُحَمَّدٍ، - وَهُوَ ابْنُ أَبِي حَرْمَلَةَ - عَنْ كُرَيْبٍ، أَنَّ أُمَّ الْفَضْلِ بِنْتَ الْحَارِثِ، بَعَثَتْهُ إِلَى مُعَاوِيَةَ بِالشَّامِ قَالَ فَقَدِمْتُ الشَّامَ فَقَضَيْتُ حَاجَتَهَا وَاسْتُهِلَّ عَلَىَّ رَمَضَانُ وَأَنَا بِالشَّامِ فَرَأَيْتُ الْهِلاَلَ لَيْلَةَ الْجُمُعَةِ ثُمَّ قَدِمْتُ الْمَدِينَةَ فِي آخِرِ الشَّهْرِ فَسَأَلَنِي عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ عَبَّاسٍ - رضى الله عنهما - ثُمَّ ذَكَرَ الْهِلاَلَ فَقَالَ مَتَى رَأَيْتُمُ الْهِلاَلَ فَقُلْتُ رَأَيْنَاهُ لَيْلَةَ الْجُمُعَةِ . فَقَالَ أَنْتَ رَأَيْتَهُ فَقُلْتُ نَعَمْ وَرَآهُ النَّاسُ وَصَامُوا وَصَامَ مُعَاوِيَةُ . فَقَالَ لَكِنَّا رَأَيْنَاهُ لَيْلَةَ السَّبْتِ فَلاَ نَزَالُ نَصُومُ حَتَّى نُكْمِلَ ثَلاَثِينَ أَوْ نَرَاهُ . فَقُلْتُ أَوَلاَ تَكْتَفِي بِرُؤْيَةِ مُعَاوِيَةَ وَصِيَامِهِ فَقَالَ لاَ هَكَذَا أَمَرَنَا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم . وَشَكَّ يَحْيَى بْنُ يَحْيَى فِي نَكْتَفِي أَوْ تَكْتَفِي .
Copied from sunnah.com/muslim:1087
Bro, please explain...I am confused
Sheikh Imran Hosein from Trinidad has explained the importance of moon sighting and Quran reading.
That sodomite is a kafir and is irrelevant to islam and muslim
Wait hold my telescope! Shaykh Gani is 100% sure of moons visibility. no need to sight moon anymore 😂
What are you on about? He said it was impossible to sight the moon during the solar eclipse but wait your Saudi Arabia managed to see the moon before it was even born. You seem like you will blindly follow Saudi Arabia no matter what.
What surprises me the most is that people will blindly follow Saudi Arabia and then claim that it is only the Pakistani’s and Barewi’s that do Eid on a different day which could not be further from the truth. Here is a SAUDI scholar sitting in Masjid Ul Haram explaining that you must follow your own local moon sighting and NOT follow Saudi Arabia if you live elsewhere (fb.watch/v/5hJhgyC3x/ )please check out this link if you don’t believe me. However you will still get people claiming Pakistani and barewi’s are causing disunity when the SAUDI scholars themselves tell the people to not follow the Saudi moon sighting reports. But again people will still blindly follow Saudi Arabia and celebrate Eid on the wrong day as they have too much pride and arrogance to admit their mistakes. May Allah guide us all and remain steadfast on the Haq even when those around us are not. Ameen
Eid Mubarak to all my brothers and sisters
Ghani did the same in South Africa before he reached the shores of Uk. Fit a created for the Ummah after decree resolution
Dilly, brother, how did it take you half an hour to just discuss the basic....what can you not understand that the western nations are 6-8 hours behind the UK, are you going to wait till fajr to know if that day is eid or not? That itself would be haram because the Islamic day starts at sunset, not sunrise so you go to sleep thinking its Ramadan, wake up and it becomes Eid ul Fitr. And yet you have the audacity to speak about biddah lol
Just a side question... Can people in the UK or Africa rely on Saudi when Saudi is an hour to three hours ahead? Can they have Eid on the same day? How about the day of Arafah? Should each country observe Arafah based on their sighting or rely on those doing hajj and fast the same day with them?
@@TA-vu9se What surprises me the most is that people will blindly follow Saudi Arabia and then claim that it is only the Pakistani’s and Barewi’s that do Eid on a different day which could not be further from the truth. Here is a SAUDI scholar sitting in Masjid Ul Haram explaining that you must follow your own local moon sighting and NOT follow Saudi Arabia if you live elsewhere (fb.watch/v/5hJhgyC3x/) please check out this link if you don’t believe me. However you will still get people claiming Pakistani and barewi’s are causing disunity when the SAUDI scholars themselves tell the people to not follow the Saudi moon sighting reports. But again people will still blindly follow Saudi Arabia and celebrate Eid on the wrong day as they have too much pride and arrogance to admit their mistakes. May Allah guide us all and remain steadfast on the Haq even when those around us are not. Ameen
Eid Mubarak to all my brothers and sisters
@@mohammedshabir6719 I am against those who blind follow Saudi. I am just asking if it's okay to begin Eid or fasting with Saudi if Saudi is 3 hours ahead of you while you have attempted to sight the moon locally and it's not visible in your area? Is it permissible to rely on trusted info from another country like Saudi in this case or should you only stick to your own country and fast your own arafah different from the day it's performed by pilgrims??? Please answer.....
@@TA-vu9se great question. The brother above has replied already with the video of the Saudi scholar, which is also the opinion of scholars not part of a particular group who influence mosques in the UK. To sum up, Ramadan, eid, arafah, it doesn't matter what else, it must be done with your local sightings. Simple as that. In terms of my comment on Dilly, it's very specific to his lack of wanting to understand the basics of what the sheikh is saying.
@@maodijong3661 Okay. So are you saying that pilgrims who fasted Arafah on Monday should not have been followed? Should we have fasted Arafah on Tuesday ?? Were the pilgrims right or wrong...??
Saudi vs Morocco is a more suitable title since no one follows a UK sighting.
What are you on about? Morroco was hardly mentioned in this podcast. It’s about local moon sightings rather than blindly following Saudi Arabia
@@shabirhussain6437 I'm on about the reality of the situation in the UK. You would know this unless you either don't live here or are ignorant.
Crazy
Eid ul ahda shouldn’t it be done day after Hujj
Dilly, do you not understand that your suggestion to just follow a global sighting "for the sake of unity" is far more of a bid3ah than using our knowledge of astronomy to verify if the moon could have been seen or not?
A bid3ah in the sense that: what gives you the right to decide that the 'unity of the ummah' for this issue is more important than the established Sunnah?
Uniting upon a literal falsehood (which the Saudi moonsightings literally are) is not something we have been instructed to do.
So are you saying that all moon sighting in Saudi is false??? So those who went for Hajj performed it on the wrong day?
@@TA-vu9se yes, they are usually wrong. The pilgrims are not sinful for doing it on the wrong day, but the authorities that make the false claims are sinful.
@@NK-vd8xi So you mean with all the best scholars Saudi has, they have been wrong on the days they perform Eid? Are you an authoritative scholar to give such fatwa? What's your qualification? Bro, fear Allah...
@@TA-vu9se other ulema have said the same thing, that the authority who wrongly declare the date are sinful but the pilgrims are not.
Most of Dilly's community follow the Saudi moon sighting
@@entername_ I know Shayk Ghani comes on Iqra tv i remember once Iqra TV Urdu/English had a dispute on the moon sighting issue as IQRA TV Bangla refused to follow them on moon sighting and chose Saudi Arabia causing disunity in their own organisation
@Chilli Sam oh right... this now explains why he will not change his stance even when clear proof is given to him. My message to Dilly is to follow the Haq (truth) even when those around you are not. Furthermore your explanation of the hadith that you mentioned at 5:45 was incorrect. It was in fact the opposite of what you stated as the hadith stated:
Kurayb repoted: I came to Syria and tended to my needs. The crescent of Ramadan appeared over me while I was in Syria and I saw it on Friday, then I came to Medina at the end of the month. Abdullah ibn Abbas, may Allah be pleased with him, asked me about it and I mentioned the crescent. Ibn Abbas said, “When did you see it?” I said, “We saw it on Friday night.” Ibn Abbas said, “You saw it?” I said, “Yes, people saw it and they fasted, as did Mu’awiyah.” Ibn Abbas said, “But we saw it on Saturday night, so we will continue fasting until we complete thirty days or we see it.” I said, “Is it not enough that Mu’awiyah saw it and he fasted?” Ibn Abbas said, “No, such was the command of the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1087
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim
Al-Tirmidhi said, “The people of knowledge act upon this tradition, that the people of every land have their own moon sighting.”
Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 693
@@mohammedshabir6719 Thanks for quoting to me that hadith you have just told me something about Dilly
With all due respect brother Dilly but what kind of beard are you keeping? What’s the Hadith instruction because it seems to be your doing the opposite. People can attack me all you want, the prophet spoke the truth. To keep a beard is an identity of a muslim man and there's a a specific instruction on how it's done. If you have a platform, your should really be representing in the best way. It's not sunnah to grow a beard, it's a fard upon muslim men who ARE able to. If I saw you on the street and you were not known then would we be able to tell your are a muslim? This is the point, this is another virtue of keeping a beard THE WAY we have been instructed. Not because you think it looks cool or if your wife likes it.
Ibn Umar, may Allah be pleased with him and his father, the Prophet (pbuh) said:
"Trim your mustaches and leave your beards grow abundantly. Differentiate yourself and polytheists. " Hadith narrated by Bukhari and Muslim.
Muslim reported by Abu Hurayrah, may Allah be pleased with him, that the Prophet(pbuh) said:
"Trim your mustaches and let your beards grow, Differentiate and Zoroastrians." Hadith Narrated by Muslim.
Moreover, Al-Nasa'i reported in his Sunan an authentic Hadith Zayd ibn Arqam according, may Allah be pleased that the Prophet (pbuh) said:
"He who does not size the mustache is not ours. » Hadith Narrated by Tirmidhi and At-Al-Nasa'i.
The great scholar and renowned Hafiz Abu Muhammad ibn Hazm said: "The scholars are unanimous on the fact that it is mandatory to trim the mustache and grow a beard. »
The Hadith and opinions of the scholars concerning the fact of cutting the mustache, letting the beard grow abundantly and leave whole, are very numerous.
It is not possible we also quote much on this occasion. But from the above Hadith and Ibn Hazm about who narrated unanimously scholars, we deduce the answer to three questions.
In short, letting the beard grow abundantly is an obligation that must not be ignored, because the Prophet, prayer and salvation be upon him, ordered it. An order from the Prophet(pbuh) means the requirement for Allah the Almighty said:
(59/7)... And whatever the Messenger HAS given you - take; He Has forbidden and what you - from chorus. And fear Allah; Indeed, Allah is severe in penalty.
It is the same size mustaches. It is mandatory, but it is best to cut them short. It is therefore not possible to let them grow mustaches to roll, as this is contrary to the order of the Prophet(pbuh):
"Trim your mustaches"
"Cut up the short mustache"
"Mow whiskers"
"He who does not size the mustache is not one of us. »
These four formulas are reported in the authentic Hadith from the Prophet(pbuh), and the last of these four contains a hard warning and setting strict guard. This requires a Muslim to be on guard against what Allah and His Prophet have forbidden, and hasten to apply what they have ordered.
From the foregoing, we conclude that to grow a mustache is a sin and disobedience, as does shave or trim beards.
This is a sin that weakens and reduces the faith and who may have done to incur the wrath of Allah. Previous Hadith also tells us that these acts are a resemblance to the polytheists and Zoroastrians. But the fact of imitating the wrongdoing is prohibited because the Prophet (pbuh) said:
"He who seeks to emulate a people is one of them. »Hadith narrated by Imam Ahmad.
I hope this answer is sufficient and compelling.
It is Allah Who grants success. Prayer and salvation of Allah be upon our Prophet Muhammad and upon his family and companions.
That dilly don’t know what he’s on about.. looks like a chef from a local Indian restraunt but the Shaikh answers with wisdom and knowledge dilly go and study astronomy
What surprises me the most is that people will blindly follow Saudi Arabia and then claim that it is only the Pakistani’s and Barewi’s that do Eid on a different day which could not be further from the truth. Here is a SAUDI scholar sitting in Masjid Ul Haram explaining that you must follow your own local moon sighting and NOT follow Saudi Arabia if you live elsewhere (fb.watch/v/5hJhgyC3x/ )please check out this link if you don’t believe me. However you will still get people claiming Pakistani and barewi’s are causing disunity when the SAUDI scholars themselves tell the people to not follow the Saudi moon sighting reports. But again people will still blindly follow Saudi Arabia and celebrate Eid on the wrong day as they have too much pride and arrogance to admit their mistakes. May Allah guide us all and remain steadfast on the Haq even when those around us are not. Ameen
Eid Mubarak to all my brothers and sisters
@@shaba555 salty
The absurdity to ask about global moon sighting is as asking why we shouldn’t have global sun sighting lol
With all due respect this shaykh repeats the same thing over and over again without answering anything. No ones 100% sure of anything in life but he's 100% sure of the moons visibility. 😂
“No ones 100% sure of anything in life” are you being serious? You really sound like someone who will blindly follow Saudi Arabia no matter what
Same as the hadith they was all, set by men 200 hundred years after the prophets death and nearly 2000 miles Way from where the prophet lived so wake up people just follow the quran which was sent by Allah swt don't follow hadiths which was written by men
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Shedding blood on wrong day.
How can dilly start the podcast as ignorant as can be by desecrating the Hadith, it was so cringy, brother at least try to quote it correctly in English if you can’t in Arabic 🤦♂️
We don't pray zuhr when it's zuhr in Saudi
Q6: If you are trying to unite Eid day, then why don't you unite prayer time?
A: We are not uniting Eid prayer time but uniting Eid day. Time is based on the sun’s position. Eid prayer time will be different from location to location.
@@shihabudheenk7046 Salam. It simply doesnt make sense.
Different locations prayers is also different based on the movement of the sun
And Eid based on the lunar calendar the movement of the moon and timing based on the sun
Because the Sahabah didn either
And that wouldn achieve anythin
You should be United with the believers hearts and the community you are with.
Not fight each other over the day when the scholars are to be followed
@@Life-bt9yo You are mixing time and day
Q1: At a time, there will always be more than one calendar day on earth, then how can we unite Eid in a single day all over the world?
A: Yes, there will be more than one calendar day at a time on earth since the earth is not flat. But that does not contradict the idea of "a given Day for a date". Just like Jumua Day and Jumua prayer. When some people do Jummah on Friday, some people will be sleeping on Thursday night. But they also perform Jummah prayer whenever Jumua Day comes to them.
Q2: To unite Eid, the earth should be flat, do you believe in the flat earth theory?
A: To unite the TIME the earth should be flat, we are NOT demanding to unite the time but to unite the day. A calendar day is not reaching all people together, there is an order to reach the day as the earth rotates, so Eid will come along with the day, not at the same TIME as in the flat earth theory. Even time is becoming local within a day, without day we cannot refer to the time.
Q3: The Gregorian civil day starts at Midnight but Islamic day starts at Maghrib, then how can we unite?
A: There may be multiple calendars in the world starting at noon, 9 PM, midnight, 3 AM, etc all will contradict the Islamic calendar. But we are not considering any of the calendars, they don't have any dependency or impact on the Islamic calendar. So just forget them all. Only concentrate on the Islamic calendar which starts at the first prayer of an Islamic civil day. The Islamic civil date and day start along with the prayer time.
Q4: Why don't we use an International lunar date line?
A: The conjunction point on earth will change every month every year. So, we cannot fix it, and it may run through a state, city, or even on a Masjid. If we consider the visibility curve, the lunar line will be parabolic, we may need to divide the earth on both longitude and latitude and sometimes diagonal, that line also splits the people of a city. To start a month, the purpose of the Hilal is to determine the Day, NOT to find the starting position of a Day. The first day of the month will start on earth as normal as the rest of the days of the month start on earth.
Q5: If we cannot see the Hilal all over the world in a single day, then how can we unite Eid?
A: The Hilal may not be visible all over a state or all over a county. Only reports of the Hilal are enough to start the month.
I’m playing it safe
My Eid on Tuesday
But my Qurbani will take place on Wednesday in Pakistan……
Eh safe u praying namaz, behind TV lol 😂
@@NicheXclusive lol
Showing us participate trophies/certificates doesn't prove anything. They are as useless as your madrassa certificates.
You cant even understand the simple difference between solar and lunar dates lol
Arabia is the blessed land,... While Saudis Arabia is Cursed.
One sided perspective, only if the deobandi and barelwi expressed the same interest to rectify the affairs of aqeedah and maybe there would be unity. The foundation of the sunnah is aqeedah and Tawheed. Fact
Implying Deobandi's don't have the aqeedah of tawheed. What a clueless muppet.
@@sbasha7 what a clown. They will use any excuse to carry on blindly following Saudi Arabia
You need to learn the basics if the religion before speaking on matters your clearly ignorant on
Kurayb repoted: I came to Syria and tended to my needs. The crescent of Ramadan appeared over me while I was in Syria and I saw it on Friday, then I came to Medina at the end of the month. Abdullah ibn Abbas, may Allah be pleased with him, asked me about it and I mentioned the crescent. Ibn Abbas said, “When did you see it?” I said, “We saw it on Friday night.” Ibn Abbas said, “You saw it?” I said, “Yes, people saw it and they fasted, as did Mu’awiyah.” Ibn Abbas said, “But we saw it on Saturday night, so we will continue fasting until we complete thirty days or we see it.” I said, “Is it not enough that Mu’awiyah saw it and he fasted?” Ibn Abbas said, “No, such was the command of the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1087
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim
Al-Tirmidhi said, “The people of knowledge act upon this tradition, that the people of every land have their own moon sighting.”
Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 693
عَنْ كُرَيْبٍ قَالَ فَقَدِمْتُ الشَّامَ فَقَضَيْتُ حَاجَتَهَا وَاسْتُهِلَّ عَلَيَّ رَمَضَانُ وَأَنَا بِالشَّامِ فَرَأَيْتُ الْهِلَالَ لَيْلَةَ الْجُمُعَةِ ثُمَّ قَدِمْتُ الْمَدِينَةَ فِي آخِرِ الشَّهْرِ فَسَأَلَنِي عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ عَبَّاسٍ رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمَا ثُمَّ ذَكَرَ الْهِلَالَ فَقَالَ مَتَى رَأَيْتُمْ الْهِلَالَ فَقُلْتُ رَأَيْنَاهُ لَيْلَةَ الْجُمُعَةِ فَقَالَ أَنْتَ رَأَيْتَهُ فَقُلْتُ نَعَمْ وَرَآهُ النَّاسُ وَصَامُوا وَصَامَ مُعَاوِيَةُ فَقَالَ لَكِنَّا رَأَيْنَاهُ لَيْلَةَ السَّبْتِ فَلَا نَزَالُ نَصُومُ حَتَّى نُكْمِلَ ثَلَاثِينَ أَوْ نَرَاهُ فَقُلْتُ أَوَ لَا تَكْتَفِي بِرُؤْيَةِ مُعَاوِيَةَ وَصِيَامِهِ فَقَالَ لَا هَكَذَا أَمَرَنَا رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ
1087 صحيح مسلم كتاب الصيام باب بيان أن لكل بلد رؤيتهم وأنهم إذا رأوا الهلال ببلد لا يثبت حكمه لما بعد عنهم
وقال الترمذي وَالْعَمَلُ عَلَى هَذَا الْحَدِيثِ عِنْدَ أَهْلِ الْعِلْمِ أَنَّ لِكُلِّ أَهْلِ بَلَدٍ رُؤْيَتَهُمْ
693 سنن الترمذي كتاب الصوم باب ما جاء لكل أهل بلد رؤيتهم
Too many emotional people in the comments. You can't blame the people it's the dodgy committees and mosques who don't want to unite upon a sighting, as people tend to just follow their local mosques/communities. The issue with the UK is we don't rely on our own moon sighting, if we all agreed to this then this would resolve the issue and we would also be following the Sunnah of local moon sighting. Since we don't follow our own, our committees are split between following a global sighting (first sighting) as in Saudi Arabia and Morocco (closest Muslim country). None of them are incorrect technically as the principle is the same, we are relying on a foreign sighting one way or the other. The issue is that we are not united upon one. Both are acceptable and have their evidences, if we follow Saudi sighting that means the moon has already passed over us since Saudi is to our east and thus we can follow it according to this principle. By the way most of Europe, the Middle East and even Russia did Eid same day as Saudi so that's another point to consider. As for following Morocco, well its our closest Muslim country so this is also a valid stance. People need to understand that both have their validity so don't be an emotional wreck and hurl insults at those who follow one or the other and don't come up with conspiracies and slander Muslims as if you have knowledge of the unseen. The problem is our leaders in the UK need to sit down and agree on something in finality as the people of one land should not differ on their moon following, this is embarassing. So don't blame each other and don't criticise each view because it just highlights your ignorance. Rather put pressure on your leaders and committees to agree on something once and for all.
May allah give Hidayat to Suleman Ghani n clonies
Most of the local mosque like east london mosque do open kufr hence these jokers are not worth relying on for any Islamic help
@@abdullahassaffah a masjid doing open kufr? Brother do you even realise what you are saying...
Still don’t understand. All these years why has it only been the Pakistani/Barelwi ones here that have acknowledged Saudi’s errors. Almost as if saying Muslims from other backgrounds, have been oblivious or not educated enough about Saudi. Why had it been specifically them?
Most people have no idea. Their mosques take the sighting of Saudi (which has no Islamic basis), and the congregation follows it without questioning.
@@NK-vd8xi Yes but I’m talking about scholars, why have only Barelvi scholars stood up for this?
@@ihtishaamiqbal3245 you're mistaken, Suliman Gani isn't a Barelwi at all, nor are all the Saudi scholars who literally tell us not to follow their moon.
@@NK-vd8xi so why do many masjid in UK STILL follow Saudi?
@@ihtishaamiqbal3245 funds to stay aligned to Saudi (at least for ELM and LCM) who make a "unified calendar" based on that, and other mosques simply adopt that calendar.
Others make claims that we can't see the moon from the UK (which isn't true).
Why the sheik youtube is talking about this on the internet?? bring this up with the Saudi scholars. maybe they know something he does not now or maybe there is hikma behind their decision? And please take care of your backyard first wherever country you are from before pointing alleged faults of others.
What surprises me the most is that people will blindly follow Saudi Arabia and then claim that it is only the Pakistani’s and Barewi’s that do Eid on a different day which could not be further from the truth. Here is a SAUDI scholar sitting in Masjid Ul Haram explaining that you must follow your own local moon sighting and NOT follow Saudi Arabia if you live elsewhere (fb.watch/v/5hJhgyC3x/ )please check out this link if you don’t believe me. However you will still get people claiming Pakistani and barewi’s are causing disunity when the SAUDI scholars themselves tell the people to not follow the Saudi moon sighting reports. But again people will still blindly follow Saudi Arabia and celebrate Eid on the wrong day as they have too much pride and arrogance to admit their mistakes. May Allah guide us all and remain steadfast on the Haq even when those around us are not. Ameen
Eid Mubarak to all my brothers and sisters
@redsox789 The Saudi scholars themselves say DO NOT follow us but for some reason there are a lot of people that want to blindly follow Saudi Arabia. Please check this link if you don’t believe me fb.watch/v/5hJhgyC3x/
Now after watching this link why do you still follow Saudi Arabia when it comes to Eid? The sheikh must be very frustrated that even though the Saudi Arabian scholars themselves state DO NOT follow our moon sighting and then they also say follow your own local sighting but still people want to blindly follow Saudi Arabia. Why?
N/b the Saudi Mufti repetitively said don't follow Us
Dilly is being sponsored an funded by Saudi an his channel, so no way can he go against his masters
oh right... this now explains why he will not change his stance even when clear proof is given to him. My message to Dilly is to follow the Haq (truth) even when those around you are not. Furthermore your explanation of the hadith that you mentioned at 5:45 was incorrect. It was in fact the opposite of what you stated as the hadith stated:
Kurayb repoted: I came to Syria and tended to my needs. The crescent of Ramadan appeared over me while I was in Syria and I saw it on Friday, then I came to Medina at the end of the month. Abdullah ibn Abbas, may Allah be pleased with him, asked me about it and I mentioned the crescent. Ibn Abbas said, “When did you see it?” I said, “We saw it on Friday night.” Ibn Abbas said, “You saw it?” I said, “Yes, people saw it and they fasted, as did Mu’awiyah.” Ibn Abbas said, “But we saw it on Saturday night, so we will continue fasting until we complete thirty days or we see it.” I said, “Is it not enough that Mu’awiyah saw it and he fasted?” Ibn Abbas said, “No, such was the command of the Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him.”
Source: Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 1087
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Muslim
Al-Tirmidhi said, “The people of knowledge act upon this tradition, that the people of every land have their own moon sighting.”
Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 693
Another message for Dilly and Co: here is a SAUDI scholar sitting in Masjid Al Haram explaining that you must follow your own local moon sighting and NOT follow Saudi Arabia if you live elsewhere (fb.watch/v/5hJhgyC3x/ ) please check out this link if you don’t believe me. However you will still get people claiming Pakistani, barewi’s or deobandi are causing disunity when the SAUDI scholars themselves tell the people to not follow the Saudi moon sighting reports. But again people will still blindly follow Saudi Arabia and celebrate Eid on the wrong day as they have too much pride and arrogance to admit their mistakes.
5 mins into the video, I am already questioning the responses and logics given by the sheikh. For some reason his Rational regarding global sighting is so flawed and wrong.
To me it's a simple subject, people and sheikh making it complex and difficult.
Dilly is a Saudi fanatic, sheikh u cant reason with these people. How hypocritical this guy is! When he is using modern communication thats not bidah. But Implementing known clear sharia ruling, complimenting it with observable science is bidah to him! Lol
Although I agree with the shaykh but he needs to be tolerant towards the second view and to totally negate the view and make them doubt their fast and animal sacrifice is wrong.
Dilly, $top embarrassing yourself even more
The shake doesn't even know the hadeeth? LoL
The host doesn't articulate the questions very well.
This is a joke seeing your own moon it’s one bloody moon. If that’s the case on what day will people fast for hajj if you follow your own moon? So will it be a case of fasting on Saudi hajj day having a break and a Kit Kat and then doing Eid. If that is not an innovation then I don’t know what is.
That’s why the 9 days of fasting is recommended.So one does not miss Arafat.
You fast on Tuesday which is the day of arafat in the UK it's simple, just imagine you had no internet or phone, you would look to find the moon and decide on that basis end off not difficult to comprehend.
The Sheikh showed clear evidence Saudi did it wrong how can they look for the moon on the night of the solar eclipse it is impossible to find. It's simple adjust and correct their calender that way majority of the months will be in unity with the uk and Saudi!
@@ahmedhanif911 so according to you. Your saying the sheik hajj is wrong. Why don’t the shiek say it like this all the Hajji your hajj is wrong. Then we see how honest you are. Bottom line is hajj eid. Not hajj have a kitkat and then do Eid. Clear innovation.
@@babysham318 if you watched the video he said the hajj dates are wrong, he said he has been many times and had to do hajj wrong but the people are not to blame the authorities are. The bottom line is their is clear proof they got the moon sighting wrong as it was a solar eclipse and you still
Want to follow, your choice...
@@ahmedhanif911 why is he the only shiek that is saying that. Where are the rest of the Muslim world leaders. If the authorities are to be blamed then so be it. Not my problem so don’t disunite ummah.
We don’t need these “scholars” to determine moon sightings in a world with such technologies available
Ok Slime Ball
Go do your thing then if you don't want to follow these 'scholars" 🥱
Lol you really are a slime ball
@@4getaboutit my thing? Lol keep following these problem makers
@@1slamExplained ok content stealer