Two of the finest guitarists ever to grace the face of the planet. Danny was every bit Peters equal and indeed many solos are attributed to Peter when it was in fact Danny. What is beyond dispute is that we have lost such huge talents over the decades and can only look back and marvel at what they achieved.
It’s a shame he ended his days in pubs wouldn’t ever mention his previous playing let alone his band, sadly died penniless as an alcoholic even before Peter!..
@@wingsofpegasusWhere's Jeremy Spencer in this clip? Unlike the other four, I don't see him 🤔 at all in this. On another note 📝, has anyone ever told you that you kinda resemble Jimmy McCulloch of Wings?
It's gotta be said though: This is Danny's song - a real showpiece for him. Peter sits on the neck pickup while Danny's on the bridge, and he hangs back a lot to give Danny the spotlight. And it's a key example of how totally unique Danny's vibrato was - and the pure physicality of it. Peter played from the soul and Danny played from the heart in a sense. Peter's playing is spiritual while Danny's is physical. His passion wracks his whole body. He was known to weep while he played. Absolute total commitment from an often-ignored giant of British blues guitar. It's also a testament to how Peter was more than happy to leave his ego at the door and just put air under someone else's wings.
..i luv the way danny works the whole guitar.. shakes it.. he got some attitude and the facial expression, the way he articulates the notes and the bends like their coming out of his mouth!
Danny added so much colour to Fleetwood Mac, that the band became something completely different to what is was before him joining, the Then play on album was a showcase for Danny and his great use of tension and feel are shown in tracks like Coming your way and Searching for Madge, and are truly great tracks. check them out.
Peter is really versatile though, and plays great, committed parts supporting him. Take for example, the well known ‘Oh Well’ TV clip. He doesn’t find any difficulty in expressing himself on the guitar on rhythm! And that’s a great rhythm section ☺️ Danny is great but it’s still an ensemble performance.
Danny was an amazing player indeed. Not to mention his songwriting as well. Peter picked him to join the band for as reason. They had such a chemistry.
From what I understand; Danny Kirwan over time unfortunately became more withdrawn and difficult for everyone to work with. At first he was a revelation with Green (because Spencer's songwriting didn't really click with Green's), but by the time Green has lost his marbles and was ready to leave; they'd lost their chemistry.
@@danieleyre8913They NEVER lost the chemistry, Peter left the band he started and Danny was a force the next few albums with Bob Welch...Bare Trees and Future games are my favorite albums BOTH with Danny....
That is ancient music Dude! I saw Peter Green Fleetwood Mac live in 1968 at Fillmore West SF! I went there sort of unwillingly. My belief then was that Peter Green was a Clapton clone because of "Hard Road" album. Man was I wrong! I was playing in a blues band at the time BB King was my guy. That nite changed changed my life! Went back early in 70 about a year later saw Greenie withDanny Kirwan. Heard "Green Manalishi" and "Albatross" live!
@@wingsofpegasus Unfortunately, LSD experiments have left many sequels in Peter Green's brain. Peter Green is my favorite guitarist and has perhaps the best guitar solo ever in this song ruclips.net/video/IxgY9eEFiYM/видео.html If possible you should do a video review of that song.
Yeah man Danny Kirwan is still my favourite muso out of all the past Fleetwood Mac members. Then Play On, Kiln House, Future Games and Bare Trees are absolutely stunning albums for me. So sad that we've lost him, taking away any small hope that maybe he could have had at least one more jam with Peter Green. Love your vids mate!! Please keep them coming.
I think that comparisons with Jimi Hendrix are akin to comparing Manfred Mann with the Beatles, it’s a pointless exercise. But ask me who’s my favourite guitar player of them all and I’ll say Peter Green every single time. Danny was incredible too. As was the hugely talented Jeremy Spencer.
Danny Kirwan is simply the best, his songwriting skills are also as good as his playing, especially his songs from Future Games & Bare Trees. Check out his song Dragonfly, incredible lost artist..
Nothing wrong with his work on Kiln House either...Station Man was a standard for a lot of cover bands in the '70s. Also Jewel Eyed Judy, Tell Me All the Things You Do. These played live here on utube are stellar rockers. I always thought they were better live anyway. RIP DANNY & PETER
Part of the problem, like I said above, is people not realising how generous Peter was in terms of giving Danny time to shine on some of the early Mac recordings like "Oh Well" and the "Madge" james on "Then Play On". A lot of that is NOT Peter you're hearing.
There are a couple of social media pages dedicated to Danny and early Fleetwood Mac. Danny def has his following, not just as a guitarist but as a composer and singer. I'm no musician and I see Kirwan's gift and how he and Peter inspired/pushed each other creatively.
James Wilson, I am not a guitar player. I am a listener and an admirer. I am representative of the other half of the movement because I go out and buy. Hey they need me lol. But even though I do not play I do appreciate and tune in the greats. I will never lose this signal that Danny and Peter created.
Danny has a beautiful voice ,wrote wonderful lyrics and interpreted two old poems to perfection, and his guitar expertise is legend . I return to Danny's dozens of awesome songs, with or without FM, and his shared works often . How to fit everyone wonderful in music into one lifetime is never easy . Loving Danny and remembering him is hopefully eternal. One comparison i like to make is Danny and Bernard Sumner , of New Order/Joy Division / Electronic / Bad Lieutenant .They never knew their fathers ,like so many British kids of post WW2 , and in their own ways made an impact on modern music incredibly personal to me, and likely millions more
If you're going to break a string, it's by far better to do it on a "hardtail" fixed bridge, like Danny's Tune O'Matic, as the rest of the strings will pretty much stay in tune. Try it on a full floating trem, and you're screwed. As far as the frequency of their vibrato, it seems to my ears, though I may be mistaken, is that if you tap your foot to the groove, the vibrato frequency for both of them sounds roughly like triplets, as in three bends per foot tap, although not like metronomic clockwork, but more like an organic and soulful flexing of the speed of the flow. It's a shame that Danny has always been kinda' overshadowed by Peter, as Peter was such an epic songwriter and soulful vocalist, in addition to being "The Green God" on guitar, who filled Clapton's shoes with ease and ovations, as Danny was such a truly great blues guitarist in his own right. It's also a shame that both of these legends' health deteriorated to the point that they couldn't continue to gift us with their art. We at least have what they did do for that too short period of time...
Yeah Danny was definitely a great guitarist in his own right, I really liked this 'version' of Fleetwood Mac. But things moved on and situations changes, but this was my kinda band!
You're welcome :D (STR this was my suggestion). Danny (RIP) was the hidden gem in that line up - much of the killer playing on "Oh Well" and the rest of the "Then Play On" sessions is Danny, not Peter. His vibrato is very distinctive....
Many years ago I was playing a gig in a small theatre in Lincolnshire. On the noticeboard I saw on the way out was a small poster advertising a forthcoming evening with Danny Kirwan on guitar. I thought it couldn’t possibly be THE Danny Kirwan, but blimey it was, so I booked tickets. The only word I can use to describe his performance is virtuoso.......he really was that good.......so gifted and such an accomplished player. Blew me away! Best wishes Fil, another insightful review!
Top band, top musicians at the top of their game. Quality blues that every guitarist should listen to and take note of the quality vibrato, tone and interaction between Green and Kirwan.
OMG so bizarre I am listening to kiln house in my car on like volume 25 today and it’s just so amazing Station man ,this is the rock tell me all the things you do come on man so simple so pure yet brilliant ! RIP Danny Kerwin Peter Green et all .
@@wingsofpegasus Its sad but Danny just didn't have the temperament for the Music business, it drove him over the edge. I hate to say this but he, as a person, might have been better off staying out of it. He was far too sensitive, obsessive and broody, but then that's part of why he was so great a musician, a bit of a double edged sword. Depressing in a way but he left us with some great music. Green was somewhat the same and schizophrenic. Then again another name for depression IS the blues. Sometimes adversity does breed genius! At least they had their moments I guess
This is a fantastic channel. Like and Subbed. 👍 Danny and Peter are unsung hero's, especially to us guitarists and music/artists. The two of them playing together is a true thing of magic.
Mick Fleetwood is an under-rated drummer, very much in the class of Ringo, Charlie Watts, and Levon Helm. Solid, not flashy, deep, deep pocket, plays just what the song requires.
They (the ones you mentioned) were all feel and supported the song they knew when not to play was just as important as playing. Mick and John were like a heartbeat together for years and thru many lineups of Fleetwood Mac, just a super solid rhythm section.
Thanks for the heads up on this and I have to say I had seen that video before and never noticed that string brake which says a lot about his ability to cover it. Saw this line-up in 1969 Free Trade Hall, Manchester, England. A large prime venue at the time approx 2,000 seats.
Danny composed my very favourite F. Mac tune....the instrumental "Jigsaw Puzzle Blues" which was the original 1968 B-side of the albatross around the neck of Peter Green, the A-side "Albatross"....all in all, a great 45 single. sad to hear Peter (yesterday) has gone too....he had such a beautiful mellow tone....
Denise S no problem check out peters i've got a mind to give up living from filmore its something to be hold he aboulte rips it in my the 5 solos of all time blows your mind
Having lived through that time and been to many of blues gigs it was what many bands did. They played for each other and even the drummer had one number in which they had a ten minute solo!!! We were a support band and I got to meet most of the guys. It was just heaven. Your frustration with the recording production is justifiable, but many of the programmes did the same, they would concentrate on the singer and you would see no other musician!!
Reminds me of playing guitar with my best partying friend back in 85 and we would jam and switch leads. Definitely an undeniable appreciation for music when it gels. A lot of tunes are written this way. FIL I defiantly know you get it about the mutual guitar exchange. Keep up the good work
ron valentini , Fil's consistency on finding great stuff is amazing. And his critique is always spot on, too(although I'll admit it's sometimes above my proverbial pay grade,lol)
So many truly heavy riffs they conjured up in their time together. Two of my favorites in my favourite band, and backed by an often overlooked slide player in Jeremy Spencer.
Thanks for the video ! Two very young masters at work ! I was playing a lot of blues guitar in those days , and both of these guys , along with Clapton , beck and B B King , were my influances !
FIL, THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO, AND YOUR GREAT COMMENTS, PETER IS GREAT, BUT I DID NOT REALIZE THAT DANNY HAD A HUGE IMPACT ON THE GUITAR WORK, JEREMY SPENCER PLAYED A GREAT PART IN THIS SOUND ALSO, ROCK ON cousin figel
Your observations are right on the mark. I'm a huge fan of the British Blues Rock sound of which Fleetwood Mac of course played a big role. This particular track as you mention really grooves with such a vital sense of excitement and chemistry between the two guitarists. I love how they really dig into the strings and really accentuate those tight vibratos. Brilliant seminal stuff.
Both are legendary British guitarists. One of my cousins was doing a job of test driving a vehicle for a magazine/newspaper that he worked for. He would write articles about vehicles. Once, we went to see my dad in a vehicle my cousin was test driving. For the long trip, I brought various CDs to play for the journey. The first one my cousin picked to play was Fleetwood Mac The Blues Years. This is a great video. Cheers Fil!
Sing it Danny...play it Danny. Peter was great but the hidden hero of FM was Danny Kirwan...his 4 lp run Then Play On, Kiln House, Future Games, and Bare Trees are some of the finest guitar playing and song writing in their history. R.I.P. Danny Kirwan & Peter Green Cameramen back in the '70s sucked real bad. They always tried to see how many fillings the singer had in his teeth.
I concur 100%. Those 4 albums for me virtually laid down a soundtrack for the entire seventies, I hear a little of a lot of up and coming acts that where to follow in Danny's/FM's wake in those albums, and then they fired him. It's no surprise Lindsey Buckingham is a huge fan of Danny and has stated that without him they'd have been dead in the water and consigned to history, and now they've fired him. Who knows maybe Peter jumped before he was pushed.
What a great call-and-response conversation…and, wow, McVie’s nonchalant walking bass ties it all together. Danny’s one of my favorite guitarists and his tenure with the band is my favorite FM period. Note at 1:50 he breaks a string and never misses a beat. 😊
When you have 2 guitarists communicating like that it is just great. You don’t see that much anymore. One guy plays his rehearsed solo and then the other guy plays his rehearsed solo. These guys trade off and even though Danny breaks a string it doesn’t seem to change a thing. Wonderful video.
Yeah and not for the better... Ok the songs were way better in the Buckingham/Nicks era but the heavy blues sound of early Mac was a whole lot better...or at least I like it a lot more!
Unfortunately, the heavy blues sound of the early Mac is a hidden gem that many don't even realize existed. I've tried to be a champion for them to anyone I know that is a blues guitar fan...
Another awesome video, nice work mate. I think Peter Green was one of the most underrated guitarists of the 60s. I saw him play live a few years ago, his touch is unmistakable. Eagles next? Interplay between Felder and Walsh on Hotel California is a masterclass in itself
When i was just starting out as you can imagine, I was broke and played with only five strings sometimes for weeks at a time. Then, many years later I learned that Eddie VH used "3 in 1" lubricant in the string slots and saddles. That changed everything. No more breaking strings, especially the high E. I also switched from 9's to 10's, a little lube, and haven't broken one since '94. Slotting the nut properly is also crucial, way overlooked but will make a world of difference. Thx 4 posting Fil, great as always mate. Peace.
Danny adapts like the boss he was. Greatest vibrato in the history of the form. RIP you monster of tone. Hey wait--didn't I recommend this a couple months ago??? : )
When I requested these guys I searched for a video that really focused on their playing. Not an easy task. It was either shots of people dancing or in this case focusing on their faces and wide shots. I'm guessing being early days, many cameramen were just starting to film bands and they weren't recognizing the individuals for their musicianship. Finding old Peter Green clips was almost impossible. I'm sure a lot of people will still be pleasantly surprised hearing early Fleetwood Mac for the first time. R.I.P. Danny Kirwan ❤️
I think he broke his high E, which is way easier to work around, rather than having to jump around a gap to try to play fluid lines. Still doesn't diminish the way he just rolls with it.
One of the most formidable gunslinger duo's ever. When Gibson Les Paul players talk about the classic 'burst tone, you don't have to look much further than right here.
I love the old bluesy stuff. My foot just can't stop tapping. These guys break a string, and just keep going. Kinda like when we were all young players....if I didn't have another string, I'd just make do. Or try using pliers to tie the string back together and wind it back up, hoping I could get it back in tune without breaking it again.
Tying the string back together??!! That’s a whole nother level of desperation... Now that I think about it, I’d be kinda screwed without Amazon to bring me guitar strings, since I can’t drive to the store. Benefits of new tech I guess!
more peter green and danny kirwan (and jeremy too..) please.. if ur out there fil@wings of pegasus.. :) ..i think the `nightmare` is more like the camerawork! it is so hard (impossible?) to find decent footage.. it is the music though of course and of that there is so much!
Peter was and still is for that matter a great band leader who never minded sharing the spotlight with other guitarists and Danny RIP was a great guitarist in his own right, he had a monster vibrato, both were huge influences on me when I was younger.
Glad you included Danny aswell he could play a bit no doubt. Peter and Danny were definitely in my favourite line up as far as Fleetwood Mac go.Nice one fil.
what makes me mad every time i watch these two, is that we had two of the very finest musicians in both peter green and danny kirwan, literally waste away in front of us...... possibly due to that stupid party they both went to and got zonked out, back in germany. these two, could have given the world with so much more .... they were trully very underated and very under utilised musicians. to say these two had rare talents between them, is a complete understatement. for me, peter green was the finest guitarist ..... no one played that haunting sound of his, like he. danny kirwan had three incredible albums after fleetwood mac and again in his own style .... a proven singer, songwriter in a word brilliant guitarist. both very much signature musicians indeed and both deserving the very highest appraisal.
Even more forgotten than Danny from this era of Fleetwood Mac is Jeremy Spencer. He's right up there with these two guys in what he could do on guitar. (He played keyboards, too.) They did have a 3 guitar attack at one time.
My absolute fave band of all time ! Thank you for highlighting 5 of the biggest Music Monsters ever !! Between our Greeny's tone & The Dragonfly's vibrato they just can't be beat ! ♥
Glad to see Peter Green getting some love! I mean, the guy did write Black Magic Woman that Carlos Santana turned into one of his own biggest hits! 🙂 Another suggestion of under appreciated guitarists to see here would be Terry Kath...he was a BEAST! 🤙🏻😎
Fil, been working through your catalogue here on RUclips today. Congratulations on your 100K achievement. Thanks for this analysis here. I missed this music as I was still a bit young in 1970 (16). Fil, I ask if you can sometime tells us about filming the Piccadilly Circus video ("That's Metal") You must have a hundred stories from that day. Thanks Fil.
One of the greatest white blues guitarists ever . He didn't play blues , already cried blues . There is too much emotion in his guitar . It is possible to touch that sound with fingers and see your eyes . He has my deep , deep , deep respect . It is a great honor to listen his music .
Their tone is so close on Like It This Way, I always wonder who is playing which part. This video sorts it out but, yes, more shots of Peter's fretwork during the trade-off leads would have been ideal. Oh Well...
you were right about not discerning the difference between 5 vs 6 strings. I do not play any instrument so really could not tell something has gone wrong there.
Had a few friends who often reccomended Peter,to the point of literally telling me almost avery day about him.Well despite the push job i do have to admit peter green is one hell of a guitarist.It certainly was a whole differant world for the Mac back then.Nice to see you doing a string break vid again i miss them.Danny recently passed unfortunatly,and also seemed very adept at putting on a great blues show.
Why didn't they film Peter? Well, my guess is that the camera moves to whoever is doing something interesting. And on this occasion, Danny was pulling faces (despite being the lesser player), Mick looked like a cartoon (as always), John looked "dreamy" and Peter.....well, he was hiding behind his beard. Danny died 5 weeks ago, sadly.
Danny was the guy in this song, Huge Kirwan fan .Bare Trees , future Games and Then play on my favorite Mac albums,all with Danny...Green and Kirwan were magic together.
Classic blues your right about that, great stuff.Fil,since your channel turned me on to the Randy Hanson band,you gotta check out him doing Are you Experienced,if you haven't already.Rock on☆
nice one Fil. back in the day when Fleetwood Mac were a real band haha. of course they went onto different things and appealed to a much wider commercially acceptable audience but these were when they made their best music. 2 Les Pauls trading licks with each other is always great to hear. no Floyd Rose systems, no roadies handing them a pre-tuned fresh guitar either, definitely encouraged guitar players to learn to play should the unfortunate breaking of a string take place halfway into a song. peace man
What a great analysis, Fil. After all the years these guys have insprired me as a player just wish i could have seen them. Played Winterland more than once but just a bit too young to go myself. Older 'bud, "Dude, there were 4 guitars! You would have loved it!!". My old pal Frank was probably counting John, too. Nice work, Fil!!
I am so glad you gave Danny Kirwan the credit he so deserves ....he was an equal to Peter Green ...even ...Peter said so !!
Omg yes!!!!!
100% to this. It's very sad that someone as good as Danny is seen as an afterthought when talking about 60's music
Danny had better tone and vibrato.
Two of the finest guitarists ever to grace the face of the planet. Danny was every bit Peters equal and indeed many solos are attributed to Peter when it was in fact Danny. What is beyond dispute is that we have lost such huge talents over the decades and can only look back and marvel at what they achieved.
Amen.
It’s a shame he ended his days in pubs wouldn’t ever mention his previous playing let alone his band, sadly died penniless as an alcoholic even before Peter!..
@@wingsofpegasusWhere's Jeremy Spencer in this clip? Unlike the other four, I don't see him 🤔 at all in this. On another note 📝, has anyone ever told you that you kinda resemble Jimmy McCulloch of Wings?
I think Danny was only about 19 here. Just an amazing guitarist, and totally self taught
It's gotta be said though: This is Danny's song - a real showpiece for him. Peter sits on the neck pickup while Danny's on the bridge, and he hangs back a lot to give Danny the spotlight. And it's a key example of how totally unique Danny's vibrato was - and the pure physicality of it. Peter played from the soul and Danny played from the heart in a sense. Peter's playing is spiritual while Danny's is physical. His passion wracks his whole body. He was known to weep while he played. Absolute total commitment from an often-ignored giant of British blues guitar.
It's also a testament to how Peter was more than happy to leave his ego at the door and just put air under someone else's wings.
Yeah!
Yes, that's how I understood it, that Peter didn't want the attention and allowed the others to take their share and his share of the glory.
Fabulous prose fella X
Truly respectful eloquence.
..i luv the way danny works the whole guitar.. shakes it.. he got some attitude and the facial expression, the way he articulates the notes and the bends like their coming out of his mouth!
Danny added so much colour to Fleetwood Mac, that the band became something completely different to what is was before him joining, the Then play on album was a showcase for Danny and his great use of tension and feel are shown in tracks like Coming your way and Searching for Madge, and are truly great tracks. check them out.
Danny had a more savage vibrato than Peter did. Danny has been my favorite lead guitarist for 45 years!
Peter is really versatile though, and plays great, committed parts supporting him.
Take for example, the well known ‘Oh Well’ TV clip. He doesn’t find any difficulty in expressing himself on the guitar on rhythm!
And that’s a great rhythm section ☺️
Danny is great but it’s still an ensemble performance.
Danny was an amazing player indeed. Not to mention his songwriting as well. Peter picked him to join the band for as reason. They had such a chemistry.
From what I understand; Danny Kirwan over time unfortunately became more withdrawn and difficult for everyone to work with. At first he was a revelation with Green (because Spencer's songwriting didn't really click with Green's), but by the time Green has lost his marbles and was ready to leave; they'd lost their chemistry.
@@danieleyre8913They NEVER lost the chemistry, Peter left the band he started and Danny was a force the next few albums with Bob Welch...Bare Trees and Future games are my favorite albums BOTH with Danny....
@@joebloggs8636 Ah I think you need to do some reading into Kirwan…
That is ancient music Dude! I saw Peter Green Fleetwood Mac live in 1968 at Fillmore West SF! I went there sort of unwillingly. My belief then was that Peter Green was a Clapton clone because of "Hard Road" album. Man was I wrong! I was playing in a blues band at the time BB King was my guy. That nite changed changed my life! Went back early in 70 about a year later saw Greenie withDanny Kirwan. Heard "Green Manalishi" and "Albatross" live!
Haha awesome!
Damn. You are truly blessed.
Blessed yes:)
@@wingsofpegasus Unfortunately, LSD experiments have left many sequels in Peter Green's brain. Peter Green is my favorite guitarist and has perhaps the best guitar solo ever in this song ruclips.net/video/IxgY9eEFiYM/видео.html If possible you should do a video review of that song.
Albatross is just beautiful. Bought English Rose album in 69? Listened over and over, trying to recover from a broken heart
Yeah man Danny Kirwan is still my favourite muso out of all the past Fleetwood Mac members. Then Play On, Kiln House, Future Games and Bare Trees are absolutely stunning albums for me. So sad that we've lost him, taking away any small hope that maybe he could have had at least one more jam with Peter Green. Love your vids mate!! Please keep them coming.
Yeah RIP Danny. Thanks, will do!
RIP Danny man. What a soulful player and such a distinct vibrato...don't even get me started on Greeny..great video man
Amen.
Danny's vibrato is unmatched. Took me 10 years to master, and I have at least another 45 years to go.
Peter green at his peak was just as special as Jimi Hendrix and Eric clapton in his prime! What do you think?
Yep!
I agree. Just as special but different. I'm glad you said special because it's criminal to compare any of the greats. This GOAT thing is ridiculous.
I think that comparisons with Jimi Hendrix are akin to comparing Manfred Mann with the Beatles, it’s a pointless exercise. But ask me who’s my favourite guitar player of them all and I’ll say Peter Green every single time. Danny was incredible too. As was the hugely talented Jeremy Spencer.
Shaun McGee agreed
steven grant yeah I phrased it carefully
danny kirwan is the star of this song,,R.I.P. danny!
Amen.
When two great players play off each other instead trying to out perform each other is great playing .
Amen. No egos here, just great players!
Typical of Peter Green's unselfish style in all things
@@timgelder4263 And part of why he conflicted so much with some others in the band, especially Mick Fleetwood
Thanks for your analysis. Whenever you do see a full band camera shot my eyes are always drawn to Danny. His energy is magic.
Great presentation of the interaction between Danny and Peter. Really enjoyed your relaxed but very obvious enthusiasm for these legends.
Thanks!
Danny Kirwan is simply the best, his songwriting skills are also as good as his playing, especially his songs from Future Games & Bare Trees.
Check out his song Dragonfly, incredible lost artist..
Amen!
1 year later I said the same. :-)
Nothing wrong with his work on Kiln House either...Station Man was a standard for a lot of cover bands in the '70s. Also Jewel Eyed Judy, Tell Me All the Things You Do. These played live here on utube are stellar rockers.
I always thought they were better live anyway. RIP DANNY & PETER
Great line up, great session. Loved these guys live and on record up until mid-70's.
The only people on the interwebs giving Danny Kirwin respect after his death are actual guitarists. I find that a little sad.
James Wilson
Many of us non -guitarists have the ultimate respect and love for Danny too. He is appreciated and not forgotten.
I think he just needs a spotlight and people can see how good he was.
Part of the problem, like I said above, is people not realising how generous Peter was in terms of giving Danny time to shine on some of the early Mac recordings like "Oh Well" and the "Madge" james on "Then Play On". A lot of that is NOT Peter you're hearing.
There are a couple of social media pages dedicated to Danny and early Fleetwood Mac. Danny def has his following, not just as a guitarist but as a composer and singer. I'm no musician and I see Kirwan's gift and how he and Peter inspired/pushed each other creatively.
James Wilson, I am not a guitar player. I am a listener and an admirer. I am representative of the other half of the movement because I go out and buy. Hey they need me lol.
But even though I do not play I do appreciate and tune in the greats. I will never lose this signal that Danny and Peter created.
Danny has a beautiful voice ,wrote wonderful lyrics and interpreted two old poems to perfection, and his guitar expertise is legend . I return to Danny's dozens of awesome songs, with or without FM, and his shared works often .
How to fit everyone wonderful in music into one lifetime is never easy . Loving Danny and remembering him is hopefully eternal. One comparison i like to make is Danny and Bernard Sumner , of New Order/Joy Division / Electronic / Bad Lieutenant .They never knew their fathers ,like so many British kids of post WW2 , and in their own ways made an impact on modern music incredibly personal to me, and likely millions more
If you're going to break a string, it's by far better to do it on a "hardtail" fixed bridge, like Danny's Tune O'Matic, as the rest of the strings will pretty much stay in tune. Try it on a full floating trem, and you're screwed.
As far as the frequency of their vibrato, it seems to my ears, though I may be mistaken, is that if you tap your foot to the groove, the vibrato frequency for both of them sounds roughly like triplets, as in three bends per foot tap, although not like metronomic clockwork, but more like an organic and soulful flexing of the speed of the flow.
It's a shame that Danny has always been kinda' overshadowed by Peter, as Peter was such an epic songwriter and soulful vocalist, in addition to being "The Green God" on guitar, who filled Clapton's shoes with ease and ovations, as Danny was such a truly great blues guitarist in his own right. It's also a shame that both of these legends' health deteriorated to the point that they couldn't continue to gift us with their art. We at least have what they did do for that too short period of time...
Yeah Danny was definitely a great guitarist in his own right, I really liked this 'version' of Fleetwood Mac. But things moved on and situations changes, but this was my kinda band!
You're welcome :D (STR this was my suggestion).
Danny (RIP) was the hidden gem in that line up - much of the killer playing on "Oh Well" and the rest of the "Then Play On" sessions is Danny, not Peter. His vibrato is very distinctive....
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Then Play On my favourite album
green kirwin spencer = magic trio. RIP Danny.
Amen.
Many years ago I was playing a gig in a small theatre in Lincolnshire. On the noticeboard I saw on the way out was a small poster advertising a forthcoming evening with Danny Kirwan on guitar. I thought it couldn’t possibly be THE Danny Kirwan, but blimey it was, so I booked tickets. The only word I can use to describe his performance is virtuoso.......he really was that good.......so gifted and such an accomplished player. Blew me away! Best wishes Fil, another insightful review!
Cool!
I swear if I ever get to meet that man upstairs...the first song I'm gonna ask him to play is Sunnyside of Heaven.
Do you remember the year?
Danny deserves an analysis of his own.
Watching this on the day Peter passed away. Both legends gone...RIP - hope you are riffing together up there on that great stage in the sky.
The tone of those two guitars brings me to tears. Damn ! I wish that I would have kept up with my guitar lessons back in 1970.
could watch these 2 brilliant players forever!!
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Top band, top musicians at the top of their game. Quality blues that every guitarist should listen to and take note of the quality vibrato, tone and interaction between Green and Kirwan.
OMG so bizarre I am listening to kiln house in my car on like volume 25 today and it’s just so amazing
Station man ,this is the rock tell me all the things you do come on man so simple so pure yet brilliant !
RIP Danny Kerwin Peter Green et all .
Back when Fleetwood Mac was really cool....... we lost Mr. Kirwan in June☹️
Yeah I know, it's very sad. Another legend gone. RIP.
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Its sad but Danny just didn't have the temperament for the Music business, it drove him over the edge. I hate to say this but he, as a person, might have been better off staying out of it. He was far too sensitive, obsessive and broody, but then that's part of why he was so great a musician, a bit of a double edged sword. Depressing in a way but he left us with some great music. Green was somewhat the same and schizophrenic. Then again another name for depression IS the blues. Sometimes adversity does breed genius! At least they had their moments I guess
This is a fantastic channel. Like and Subbed. 👍 Danny and Peter are unsung hero's, especially to us guitarists and music/artists. The two of them playing together is a true thing of magic.
Mick Fleetwood is an under-rated drummer, very much in the class of Ringo, Charlie Watts, and Levon Helm. Solid, not flashy, deep, deep pocket, plays just what the song requires.
They (the ones you mentioned) were all feel and supported the song they knew when not to play was just as important as playing. Mick and John were like a heartbeat together for years and thru many lineups of Fleetwood Mac, just a super solid rhythm section.
I'm 60 years old , and just now discovering this era of FM .
This was a really bluesy , sublime rock n roll period .
Thanks for the heads up on this and I have to say I had seen that video before and never noticed that string brake which says a lot about his ability to cover it. Saw this line-up in 1969 Free Trade Hall, Manchester, England. A large prime venue at the time approx 2,000 seats.
they were so tight and in tune back then all of them peter Greene Danny Kirwin mich john and jeramy all were so young and fresh
Yes..."Albatross" was done with two guitars expertly bending and vibtrato-ing at the same time. Many people thought it was peal steel.
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3 guitars..Jeremy Spencer was on Albatross..
Why did Fleet Mac need a change when they had Danny, Peter and Jeremy????
A group should be so lucky
Danny composed my very favourite F. Mac tune....the instrumental "Jigsaw Puzzle Blues" which was the original 1968 B-side of the albatross around the neck of Peter Green, the A-side "Albatross"....all in all, a great 45 single. sad to hear Peter (yesterday) has gone too....he had such a beautiful mellow tone....
Yes yes yes. Amazing players. The real MAC
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The next song that Peter does solo while Danny replaces his string is incredible
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Absolutely. I hope Mr. Wingsofpegasus listens to it. It’s a killer. Sadly I can’t think of the name of it.
Maybe I can do a follow up video in the future!
Denise S its called world keep on turning go's deep on it
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Thanks so much John. Peter takes your breath away on that one especially because he had to throw it in unplanned.
Denise S no problem check out peters i've got a mind to give up living from filmore its something to be hold he aboulte rips it in my the 5 solos of all time blows your mind
Having lived through that time and been to many of blues gigs it was what many bands did. They played for each other and even the drummer had one number in which they had a ten minute solo!!! We were a support band and I got to meet most of the guys. It was just heaven.
Your frustration with the recording production is justifiable, but many of the programmes did the same, they would concentrate on the singer and you would see no other musician!!
"He has the sweetest tone I ever heard; he was the only one who gave me the cold sweats." `BB King on Peter Green.
Nice!
The out of phase pickups in a 59 Les Paul helped him get that great tone
Reminds me of playing guitar with my best partying friend back in 85 and we would jam and switch leads. Definitely an undeniable appreciation for music when it gels. A lot of tunes are written this way. FIL I defiantly know you get it about the mutual guitar exchange. Keep up the good work
Thanks, will do!
Classic stuff. Got to hand it to you for airing/finding these old gems.. we are talking 50 years, the groove was on.
ron valentini , Fil's consistency on finding great stuff is amazing. And his critique is always spot on, too(although I'll admit it's sometimes above my proverbial pay grade,lol)
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He knows his shit.
I only found this site a few months ago and he is like a machine pumping out vlogs.
Thanks! Yeah this was a while back, but it's awesome to look at where things actually started and players that paved the way!
So many truly heavy riffs they conjured up in their time together. Two of my favorites in my favourite band, and backed by an often overlooked slide player in Jeremy Spencer.
Thanks for the video ! Two very young masters at work ! I was playing a lot of blues guitar in those days , and both of these guys , along with Clapton , beck and B B King , were my influances !
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FIL, THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO, AND YOUR GREAT COMMENTS, PETER IS GREAT, BUT I DID NOT REALIZE THAT DANNY HAD A HUGE IMPACT ON THE GUITAR WORK, JEREMY SPENCER PLAYED A GREAT PART IN THIS SOUND ALSO, ROCK ON cousin figel
Danny was great too. God, Peter's tone is the best I have ever heard....so juicy and smooth....gorgeous....and it seemed so effortless.
Your observations are right on the mark. I'm a huge fan of the British Blues Rock sound of which Fleetwood Mac of course played a big role. This particular track as you mention really grooves with such a vital sense of excitement and chemistry between the two guitarists. I love how they really dig into the strings and really accentuate those tight vibratos. Brilliant seminal stuff.
Yeah this is great!
Both are legendary British guitarists. One of my cousins was doing a job of test driving a vehicle for a magazine/newspaper that he worked for. He would write articles about vehicles. Once, we went to see my dad in a vehicle my cousin was test driving. For the long trip, I brought various CDs to play for the journey. The first one my cousin picked to play was Fleetwood Mac The Blues Years. This is a great video. Cheers Fil!
Haha awesome!
I bet Gary Moore was paying attention to Danny’s playing as he developed his own vibrato :)
Sing it Danny...play it Danny. Peter was great but the hidden hero of FM was Danny Kirwan...his 4 lp run Then Play On, Kiln House, Future Games, and Bare Trees are some of the finest guitar playing and song writing in their history. R.I.P. Danny Kirwan & Peter Green
Cameramen back in the '70s sucked real bad. They always tried to see how many fillings the singer had in his teeth.
I concur 100%. Those 4 albums for me virtually laid down a soundtrack for the entire seventies, I hear a little of a lot of up and coming acts that where to follow in Danny's/FM's wake in those albums, and then they fired him. It's no surprise Lindsey Buckingham is a huge fan of Danny and has stated that without him they'd have been dead in the water and consigned to history, and now they've fired him. Who knows maybe Peter jumped before he was pushed.
What a great call-and-response conversation…and, wow, McVie’s nonchalant walking bass ties it all together.
Danny’s one of my favorite guitarists and his tenure with the band is my favorite FM period.
Note at 1:50 he breaks a string and never misses a beat. 😊
Just stop to think about the fact that Danny is only 19 here. Such a talent, miss him massively.
Instathumbs-up! Greeny was the man and Kirwan wasn't too shabby in his own right. The certainly knew how to play togther-quite the pair.
Yeah they could solo all day and night!
Always loved this track..it hit's you..had the great pleasure of seeing them perform it live..
When you have 2 guitarists communicating like that it is just great. You don’t see that much anymore. One guy plays his rehearsed solo and then the other guy plays his rehearsed solo. These guys trade off and even though Danny breaks a string it doesn’t seem to change a thing. Wonderful video.
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What a tragedy that both of these prodigious talents lost their marbles. The music they could've made...
Well done, phil. I was late for work cause i coudn't wait to watch this.
Haha thanks! 😅
Damn Fleetwood Mac sure did change over the years!
Yeah they sure did! This set up was very cool!
No doubt!
Yeah and not for the better...
Ok the songs were way better in the Buckingham/Nicks era but the heavy blues sound of early Mac was a whole lot better...or at least I like it a lot more!
Unfortunately, the heavy blues sound of the early Mac is a hidden gem that many don't even realize existed. I've tried to be a champion for them to anyone I know that is a blues guitar fan...
for the worse!
This was the original and IMHO the best version of Fleetwood Mac.
Danny never played filler notes. 💚🎸🎼📻🎧
Another awesome video, nice work mate. I think Peter Green was one of the most underrated guitarists of the 60s. I saw him play live a few years ago, his touch is unmistakable. Eagles next? Interplay between Felder and Walsh on Hotel California is a masterclass in itself
If the copyrights allow it I'll do it soon!
When i was just starting out as you can imagine, I was broke and played with only five strings sometimes for weeks at a time. Then, many years later I learned that Eddie VH used "3 in 1" lubricant in the string slots and saddles. That changed everything. No more breaking strings, especially the high E. I also switched from 9's to 10's, a little lube, and haven't broken one since '94. Slotting the nut properly is also crucial, way overlooked but will make a world of difference. Thx 4 posting Fil, great as always mate. Peace.
Yeah I take a lot of care restringing, done carefully I think gives them an extra lifespan!
Danny adapts like the boss he was. Greatest vibrato in the history of the form. RIP you monster of tone. Hey wait--didn't I recommend this a couple months ago??? : )
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When I requested these guys I searched for a video that really focused on their playing. Not an easy task. It was either shots of people dancing or in this case focusing on their faces and wide shots. I'm guessing being early days, many cameramen were just starting to film bands and they weren't recognizing the individuals for their musicianship. Finding old Peter Green clips was almost impossible. I'm sure a lot of people will still be pleasantly surprised hearing early Fleetwood Mac for the first time. R.I.P. Danny Kirwan ❤️
I think he broke his high E, which is way easier to work around, rather than having to jump around a gap to try to play fluid lines. Still doesn't diminish the way he just rolls with it.
Yeah the high E is the one you'd want to go, if you had to!
Never was much of a Fleetwood Mac fan but am now inspired to go back and listen to their old stuff! 🤟
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dannys vibrato was second to none!
One of the most formidable gunslinger duo's ever. When Gibson Les Paul players talk about the classic 'burst tone, you don't have to look much further than right here.
I love the old bluesy stuff. My foot just can't stop tapping. These guys break a string, and just keep going. Kinda like when we were all young players....if I didn't have another string, I'd just make do. Or try using pliers to tie the string back together and wind it back up, hoping I could get it back in tune without breaking it again.
Sterling Price - haha yes man when it was mostly rust holding the string together to start with. peace man
Haha yeah the show must go on! Or the jam!
Tying the string back together??!! That’s a whole nother level of desperation...
Now that I think about it, I’d be kinda screwed without Amazon to bring me guitar strings, since I can’t drive to the store. Benefits of new tech I guess!
Henry Noel - nice work on Sour Cream . keep rocking man. peace
Stew Marshall thanks man!
Great number, great playing, great players, great energy = the original Fleetwood Mac..saw them live and it was 'the' best gig I've been to..
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more peter green and danny kirwan (and jeremy too..) please.. if ur out there fil@wings of pegasus.. :) ..i think the `nightmare` is more like the camerawork! it is so hard (impossible?) to find decent footage.. it is the music though of course and of that there is so much!
rattlesnake shake (live in boston) includes a guitar jam between these two you will never forget. pure magic.
Peter was and still is for that matter a great band leader who never minded sharing the spotlight with other guitarists and Danny RIP was a great guitarist in his own right, he had a monster vibrato, both were huge influences on me when I was younger.
Yeah you can't really go wrong having these two as influences!
Glad you included Danny aswell he could play a bit no doubt. Peter and Danny were definitely in my favourite line up as far as Fleetwood Mac go.Nice one fil.
what makes me mad every time i watch these two, is that we had two of the very finest musicians in both peter green and danny kirwan, literally waste away in front of us...... possibly due to that stupid party they both went to and got zonked out, back in germany.
these two, could have given the world with so much more .... they were trully very underated and very under utilised musicians.
to say these two had rare talents between them, is a complete understatement.
for me, peter green was the finest guitarist ..... no one played that haunting sound of his, like he.
danny kirwan had three incredible albums after fleetwood mac and again in his own style .... a proven singer, songwriter in a word brilliant guitarist.
both very much signature musicians indeed and both deserving the very highest appraisal.
Most seem to say Danny wasn't at the party .....but either way , he did lose it which is i guess all that it comes down to
Love Danny's playing on the great Fleetwood Mac album "Bare Trees".
Even more forgotten than Danny from this era of Fleetwood Mac is Jeremy Spencer. He's right up there with these two guys in what he could do on guitar. (He played keyboards, too.) They did have a 3 guitar attack at one time.
Thank You for pointing out the broken string. Boy Danny can sing
I'll take this kind of time warp anytime! Saw Fleetwood Mac a few times prior to '76...
My absolute fave band of all time ! Thank you for highlighting 5 of the biggest Music Monsters ever !! Between our Greeny's tone & The Dragonfly's vibrato they just can't be beat ! ♥
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This is guitar heaven. Thanks, Fil!
I now have new found respect 4 Danny Kirwan,
Thx 4 the enlightment. Love this video.
No problem!
Glad to see Peter Green getting some love! I mean, the guy did write Black Magic Woman that Carlos Santana turned into one of his own biggest hits! 🙂 Another suggestion of under appreciated guitarists to see here would be Terry Kath...he was a BEAST! 🤙🏻😎
Yeah Terry is on here already somewhere!
Craig Fussell never forget the first time ii heard the licks on 25 or 6 to 4.that was a kick in the gut.
Awesome! I’ll check it out!
listened to this so many times!
Love to see people enjoying great music. That's what it's all about. Thank you.
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Fil, been working through your catalogue here on RUclips today. Congratulations on your 100K achievement. Thanks for this analysis here. I missed this music as I was still a bit young in 1970 (16). Fil, I ask if you can sometime tells us about filming the Piccadilly Circus video ("That's Metal") You must have a hundred stories from that day. Thanks Fil.
Brilliant analysis Phil , thank you .
One of the greatest white blues guitarists ever . He didn't play blues , already cried blues . There is too much emotion in his guitar . It is possible to touch that sound with fingers and see your eyes . He has my deep , deep , deep respect . It is a great honor to listen his music .
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Call and response is what it is called.
Maybe Danny was featured in the video because it's his song. Check him out practicing "One Sunny Day" with Peter in an apt. Very cool. Go Danny. RIP.
Their tone is so close on Like It This Way, I always wonder who is playing which part. This video sorts it out but, yes, more shots of Peter's fretwork during the trade-off leads would have been ideal. Oh Well...
you were right about not discerning the difference between 5 vs 6 strings. I do not play any instrument so really could not tell something has gone wrong there.
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Had a few friends who often reccomended Peter,to the point of literally telling me almost avery day about him.Well despite the push job i do have to admit peter green is one hell of a guitarist.It certainly was a whole differant world for the Mac back then.Nice to see you doing a string break vid again i miss them.Danny recently passed unfortunatly,and also seemed very adept at putting on a great blues show.
Yeah this Mac line up was my kinda band! Yeah I heard that too, it's very sad. RIP.
Why didn't they film Peter? Well, my guess is that the camera moves to whoever is doing something interesting.
And on this occasion, Danny was pulling faces (despite being the lesser player), Mick looked like a cartoon (as always),
John looked "dreamy" and Peter.....well, he was hiding behind his beard.
Danny died 5 weeks ago, sadly.
Yeah another legend leaves us. RIP Kenny.
Danny was the guy in this song, Huge Kirwan fan .Bare Trees , future Games and Then play on my favorite Mac albums,all with Danny...Green and Kirwan were magic together.
Classic blues your right about that, great stuff.Fil,since your channel turned me on to the Randy Hanson band,you gotta check out him doing Are you Experienced,if you haven't already.Rock on☆
Thanks Lantz, yeah I've watched a lot of Randy's stuff! Went on a mini binge after I did his vid!
RIP Danny Kirwan 😕😔
Amen.
nice one Fil. back in the day when Fleetwood Mac were a real band haha. of course they went onto different things and appealed to a much wider commercially acceptable audience but these were when they made their best music. 2 Les Pauls trading licks with each other is always great to hear. no Floyd Rose systems, no roadies handing them a pre-tuned fresh guitar either, definitely encouraged guitar players to learn to play should the unfortunate breaking of a string take place halfway into a song. peace man
Yeah I have to agree this Fleetmac Mac is my kinda band!
Cool old video! They were good! Took skill to keep on with only 5 strings. You would have never known it just listening to the recording!👍😎🎸🎶
Yeah it still sounds faultless!
wingsofpegasus yep! Wish I was that good!😀
God, they were great!! Till so much Tragedy struck!!
What a great analysis, Fil. After all the years these guys have insprired me as a player just wish i could have seen them. Played Winterland more than once but just a bit too young to go myself. Older 'bud, "Dude, there were 4 guitars! You would have loved it!!". My old pal Frank was probably counting John, too. Nice work, Fil!!
Thanks!