I just want to point out that Cloudian-Eye of the Typhoon is a Wind/Aqua monster. Every other cloudian is Water/Fairy, so it doesn’t even synergize with the generic support you would be playing in cloudians like sanctuary in the sky or Kristya
I for one support the presence of WIND Cloudians solely because it makes me a little sad that Cloudians are incompatible with Loud Cloud the Storm Serpent, and I like the idea of playing the cloud dwelling snake with the cloud monsters, but I also fully acknowledge this is not a strong reason for splitting the attributes.
Fel runs it in a fun/"RP" deck alongside charmers, including the continuous spell card. Because it just automatically gives the full effect of the card and gives bigger ATK stats
I had some cases where Elysium saved me a game or 2. Great card, a but slow though because the summoning materials, otherwise, the effect is pretty nuts.
I was playing it during the neo shaddoll format. In the mirror super poly clears a winds mechaba and I dropped it on a dino player and literally ended the game by banishing everything
I'm waiting for the Paradox Brothers to get a complete retrain + archetype for their stuff. I know the day is coming EDIT: yeah I know it’s out now LMFAO
@@DeepCDiva expectation:Requirement: 2 level 7 monster Summoning gate guardian from deck ignoring it's summoning condition, gate guardian unaffected by all card effect. Reality: 2 effect monster, add one monster that cannot be special summoned from your deck to your hand, immediately after this (quick effect) tribute this card, special summon the added monster, ignoring it's summoning condition.
Oh come on, we haven't even finished milking Yugi and Kaiba's monsters for DM nostalgia yet. Phantom Beasts still haven't gotten support. The 20th wave of Toons hasn't crashed upon our shores. Red-Eyes hasn't gotten another nonsensical wave of gimmicky cards. We'll see the Gate Guardian retrain in 2041 at the earliest
WattHydra is also extra bad because Watts (especially at the time of printing) absolutely LOVE Messenger of Peace, since almost nothing can beat over Chimera while it's up. You could unironically remove 50 attack from Hydra and it'd be a better card for it.
For the HERO archetype: Elemental HERO Divine Neos It takes "5" materials to summon: needs to have at least 1 Neos, Neo-Spacian, HERO, and/or Neo Space monster(s) in order to summon. Effect, banish 1 Neos, Neo-Spacian, HERO, and/or Neo Space monster in GY; this card gains 500 ATK until the end of the turn and the banished monster's effect. This is a 12 star, light, warrior monster, with 2500 ATK & DEF. This is sad because the anime effect is to gain all the monster effects that were used to summon this card.
@@ab2aasd Sort of... There's a lot of cards that came out to help summon the Neos Fusions easier but, Divine Neos is just a bad card period. No good effect, poor stats, and costs way too much to summon.
Sadly as an avid Dinowrestler player, I can confirm that Giga Spinosavate is the ONLY extra deck Dinowrestler that is even worth playing, and even then you barely make it because you almost always use Coelasilat to go into generic synchros like Savage or Baronne instead.
Agree. And what's more ironic is that Go Onizuka also have a Gouki deck that very good at link climbing and just better at every aspect than Dinowrestler can be.
@@wisnuamrihidayat3674 When my buddy told me the guy that plays gouki uses dino wrestlers now I was baffled and wondered if they wanted to nerf the character or something
@@slayerrazaro8174 And the funny part is, he did that after he lost to Playmaker, after gaining his "I am galaxy brain because I think faster than you" brain implant, and his "we're playing regular Yu-Gi-Oh now, no anime bullshit" Anti-Skill. He was supposed to be smarter and better now, and immediately flopped like undercooked bacon. To a much lesser extent, they did the same thing to Aoi, changing her Deck from Trickstar to Marincess.
@@elijahpadilla5083 wait so because he took a L he went from a consistent hyper link spam deck to a not even close to consistent beatdown deck that can barely summon its bosses? Thats like how zane went from Goats level cyber dragons to cyberdarks
So surprised no one brought up Ultimate Flagship Ursatron. It’s a fusion monster that branches archetypes between the synchro archetype Ursarctics and the ritual archetype Drytron. The only thing these archetypes have in common is that they tribute monsters from the hand to active their effects. What does Ultimate Flagship Ursatron do? Searches drytron or ursarctic monsters if an effect monster is special summoned, and it can grab a banished monster and add it to hand. If this was a continuous spell, it might be worth playing, but as it stands it’s just a clunky monster that you don’t play in either ursarctics or drytron, truly the epitome of modern pointless boss monsters.
@@TheRoseReaper they can’t because ursarctics have an actual draw 7 card, and if the archetype gets any amount of good support then the archetype will become extremely strong
I do disagree for the sole reason that adding an Ursarctic to your hand is like the best thing this deck can do. Plus the fusion spell being a replacement for a tribute is honestly worth it on its own. Sure, the monster itself is incredibly meh but it does something useful to the archetype, something a lot of these can't say.
whats funny is that in ursarctic you can play foolish burial goods to mill the fusion spell because its cost replacement effect can be used the turn its sent to the gy so it could be good... but ice barrier exists and entirely outclasses it for that. which is just showing how bad ursarctic is.
Worst bossmonster? Enter Fabled Leviathan. A Level 10 Synchro monster with semi specific materials that has just 3000 Attack and floats when it is destroyed and only when it is destroyed. It doesnt even float on the field, it gives you 3 Fableds back to your hand, which is ok in this archetype, but doesnt save you from your opponent attacking.
Interesting enough Dark flattop can bring out Ancient gear reactor dragon or reactor slime. Gate guardian has a single use which is being an equip-able garnet for Zubaba general.
I maintain that Cyber Eternity Dragon was never meant to be playable as an actual fusion and is only supposed to be thrown from the extra deck by a Cyberdark to get its in graveyard effect.
I think the actual reason was because Cyber dragons were in a Duelist pack, and they felt obligated to include a new boss monster. But Duelist packs exist to support the cards and playstyles the duelist used; and Zane's boss is unquestionable Cyber End Dragon, which they don't want to usurp but it was a bit to hard to build on. Solution: make a fusion that is literally it's exact opposite and hope that helps. In retrospect, I wonder if Eternity's reception was why they dropped the "obligatory boss" thing by the time we got to Mai's Harpies? I wonder what that deck would've gotten if they hadn't?
@@MsMiDC It's too big for regular eldlich to get over, the only out is to use eldlich effect from grave, don't special summon and use eldlich hand effect. That costs two spell/traps
@@JarvidO Which you probably get back anyway, i'd rather be dealing with eldlich with Evenly Matched or any other thing that banishes eldlich or try to wipe the backrow and otk. If your opponent has 2 eldlich out super poly is a lot of the time not going to be enough.
Funnily enough, the Cloudian monsters in the anime didn’t feature any of the Cloudian that used the Cloudian Counters, so Eye of the Typhoon wasn’t really anti synergy. Just the game and anime going different routes for Cloudian.
Six Samurai actually played the XYZ Shien during 2012 when it came out, specifically for the fact that it is another monster named Six Samurai for Gateway, United, and other archtype synergies. The deck that won YCS Indy in 2012 ran it. The card by itself though is pretty bad.
I still believe that gate guardian was an early as hell idea for xyz summoning and a retrain as an xyz that gets bonus effects for each piece used in its summon and gets to use their effects while equipped.
If I may share a conspiracy theory: I actually think they made that. But Konami designers have to think about things the RUclips Comment section rarely does; like "does this actually support anything or sell any reprints", or "is there room to build on this in the future" and of course "would this be more worthwhile as a new deck". So they present is to their bosses as "Hey, I've got this new deck idea about Xyz monsters that combine into a bigger Xyz monster. I originally made them as retrains of Gate Guardian & co. but realized they didn't really serve a purpose that way; so I was thinking we could instead make it a Super Sentai Megazord." And thus a would've-been Gate Guardian retrain instead became Super Quantal Mech King Great Magnus.
@@GiftOfKnowledge-np9vg I still think there's nostalgia money in duel monsters you just have to shift the focus on the weirder stuff like the gate guardians, pain's demonic cards and protect the castle plan and maybe even the not kaiba and have corrupted / phantom monsters
@@jerryjezzaberry5009 True, but there's a catch with anime nostalgia; people want not just to play nostalgia decks, but nostalgia cards. Heck; to Konami, anime decks usually are their anime cards, especially if it's a deck or themed named after the card. All that to say; I think it's a bit unthinkable to Konami to support Gate Guardian with the retrain route because people want to play the legendary Gate Guardian. I mean I'd prefer that. With Great Magnus already proving the gameplay experience, all any Gate Guardian support could offer is letting me play Gate Guardian. But the full retrain route is always the easiest way to feel like you're supporting anything (that's why it tends to appeal to guys on the internet like us when we wonder what support something should get); so anything better requires a bit more creativity, and so I imagine it gets put on the backburner as they work on easier to support stuff. PaniK, if he ever got support, would probably be treated at least a little similarly, though I'd compare it more to Ishizu in that they'd pick something he played and say "okay, you've got to play this. We'll replace everything else with new effects to replicate the strategy, but this one thing you've still got to play because it'll be named in all the effects. It's the one nostalgia card you're playing and the one reprint we're selling." With PaniK playing nothing good like Ishizu's Exchange of Spirit, it'll probably be the at least semi-iconic Castle of Dark Illusions. And Ghost Kaiba I don't think would ever get his own deck because there's nothing to his existing deck but stolen Normals, and they can't just make a new deck from scratch and say it's Ghost Kaiba's deck despite playing 0 of his cards. Best you could hope for there is a Phatom Blue-Eyes introduced as new Blue-Eyes support as a nod to the guy.
"What does Cyber Dragon Do? OTKs, that's it." It's also good at the grind game, but people forget that because the big beaters are far more memorable. Cyber Dragon Infinity is basically a better C101, Nova allows you to loop Cyber Dragons while acting as a footstool to Infinity, and the smaller support cards let you easily recycle your monsters as needed.
Actually, Mad Golden Lord is kinda playable in a Zombie World variant of Eldlich, because you can use the respawning Balerdroch as ammo for its Snatch Steal effect.
I've never understood why nobody seems to like Mad Golden Lord. If anything its main "flaw" is just that normal Eldlich is already strong/consistent enough that its presence probably won't make much difference either way. I guess you could argue that's space you could've used for something else, but outside of that it plays fine in my experience.
That modafaqa ensures that if we ever get a meta Insect zenolocked archetype in the future that would put up a full board of "supposed Insect boss monsters" on the field, you would just need to put him in the ED and a Super Poly to whoop all their insect asses into the garbage can. He is more of a Insect counter than an actual Insect support! Still, requires 4 materials is too much even as a Super Poly target tho, so i guess you have to run him in an Insect deck also, to maybe take 3 from opponent and 1 Insect from you as materials? And that supposed "meta" insect deck must have to dominate so much that you would constantly playing mirror matches for it to be used as a Super Poly target in the first place.
The Magnet Warrior boss is actually summonable off of a 2 card combo that opens up synchro plays with adamancipator cards too. Notice that I said "summonable" but not "good". It is fun when you end on Imperion + borrelload savage and beat your opponent with magnets once in a while.
On the note of useless boss monsters, two words: MELFFY. MOMMY. As a Melffy player Mommy is unplayably bad. Imagine wasting 2 materials on a 1000 atk vanilla that if you manage to stack 5 materials total on it becomes... a worse Yubel. With no effect protection. When you could have just made Utopic Draco Future or Zeus using your other Melffy Xyz instead. I'm still mad.
Disagree. Nothing’s funnier than slapping down a card with “Mommy” in the name and watching the life slowly drain out of my friends’ eyes as their life points tick down turn by turn
Melffy Mommy is good against really high attack, hard-to-remove dudes like Blue Eyes Chaos MAX... Until you realise that Ronin Raccoon Sandayu just does that betterm and then you remove mommy from your deck
You can pump melffy mommy full of materials, reprodocus her to a cyberse, rank up into Alembertian and search any spell/trap in your deck...CRAZY!!! NOT CLIQUEBAIT
Melffy Mommy is a horrible card but it still works in theory with the archetype itself. Its supposed to have synergy with the trap but the trap is bad too (also the is the possible synergy with joyous melffy)
Absolute Hercules still pisses me off to this day. It’s not like Beetroopers were hurting for a big bungus monster anyway considering they already had a decent one with Invincible Atlas
Doesn't Atlas' ATK boost effect make it bigger than Hercules anyway? Not that you'd want to use it over the summon effect unless you're trying to flex, but that goes to show just how much of a slap in the face Hercules is.
@@Gigacorn the Inzektor player at my locals regularly uses the atk boost to 5K against me because my deck involves a bigger bungus(Nephtys let's Gooo), so it's not completely BM material
@@Gigacorn the Inzektor player at my locals regularly uses the atk boost to 5K against me because my deck involves a bigger bungus(Nephtys let's Gooo), so it's not completely BM material
Hey wanna know what's funny? The fact that Infernities actually HAVE a boss monster. A googly eyed brain exposed dragon that pops a monster if you have no cards in hand, but it can't attack when it uses that effect. This is what you worked for, apparently.
I mean it works with the decks gimmick, was decent at the time and big. Doom Dragon isn’t good nowadays and even then was usually just worse Dark End Dragon, but the deck could summon it reliably and it had uses for its time. So I don’t think it really counts
@@frankwest5388 See, THAT'S where the funny part shows up. They have 3 of 'em, and both do MILES better than Doom Dragon. Hundred eye essentially is a big combo extender, as you can banish something like Necromancer to bring back Archfiend and keep going from there, and Void Ogre Dragon is basically a negate. Doom Dragon essentially is the weaker link between the 3 and thanks to certain cards having protection or floating, One singular pop effect ain't doing much nowadays.
In the defense of Ultra Beetrooper Absolute Hercules: The way it is supposed to work is by summoning back Beetrooper Light Flapper, which gives you back to your hand another 2 Beetroopers from your GY or banished cards, which makes Hercules "just" a -1 on the first attack, but more and more efficient every subsequent battle phase. And yes, Beetrooper can not only easily pull that off, but the whole engine can loop itself to be usable forever. Unfortunately that doesn't remove the fact that Hercules can in fact be destroyed by battle, making it way too vulnerable for the initial investment it demands.
Not to mention you can send resonator insect, gokipole, the link-2 that can banish 3 to comeback (giving neptune the ability to summon himself from hand) and any amount of tokens. The fusion isnt bad at all, infact beetroopers can consistently end board with Absolute Hercules, Mighty Neptune, Invincible Atlas and a cicada king. And being immune to everything is really nice since Neptune can boost it by 1000 each end phase
@@shiggydiggyjones9953 True, except for the boosting thing as Hercules is unaffected by your own effects as well and you should try to "reset" him once he becomes affectable if you can.
Cant believe we didn't see Crimson Nova Trinity the Dark Cubic Lord. While it has good effects, it requires exactly 3 copies of its smaller version, Crimson Nova, which often wins you the game on its own.
And for some reason the archetypical fusion card is a trap, and its effect is a vanilla fusion effect. Doesn't do anything extra to make the summoning easier.
so... are we just going to ignore that comment at the end there about Branded Synchros, and the fact that Cyberstorm access brings Synchro for 2 different branded decks (being Despian Luluwalilith, and Bystial Dis Pater)
The prize of modern terrible bosses have to be for dual avatar,their engine is insane(if boring and one note) just held back by not having one single good boss,likely by design but still
5:15 Oh man, Cloudians were my absolute favorite deck to play back in the GX era so this one took me back lol. But there's another thing you didn't mention that makes Eye of the Typhoon an even worse boss monster, and that's that it was the ONLY Cloudian to be Wind/Aqua while all the others (or at least all of the important ones) were Water/Fairy. This excluded it from almost all of the important generic support, particularly things like Sanctuary in the Sky and Salvage, that was run with Cloudians at the time. So not only did its effect not synergize with the archetype, you couldn't even support it with any other cards used to actually help the archetype.
Most Gusto cards:Shuffle monsters from your graveyard back into the deck to get benefits. Daigusto Eguls, the level 7 "Boss" : Banish a Gusto from your graveyard to destroy one facedown card your opponent controls...
Naturia Leodrake's have a nanobot sleeping in them. When the 4th supertype is realeased in like 10 years, the nanobots will wake up and errata every Leodrake to negate that 4th card type.
3:00 Cyber Eternity Dragon does actually have a useful niche...in cyberdarks, to get sent by realm on turn 2 to protect your powerbonded seigerboosted cydra boss of choice as it goes in for the otk.
As a Lyrilusc fan I would like to nominate Independent Nightingale, a fusion monster that requires their better payoff card of Assembled Nightingale as one of its materials. The whole archetype is about rank one XYZ and has absolutely no way to search Poly.
Yeeeeah... Its best use is other cards copying its name and effect. It was an anime reference over playability. The fact that Melodious and Lunalight did not get a "Parasite Fusioner" Fusion is probably because them being Fusion decks already means it would be at least on brand.
@@luminous3558 It's a problem that flows both ways to be fair, those effect copier's will eventually find another target to break with (such as how starving venom copied Electrumite), even if this thing in of itself was not made or banned, and this card will always serve as a stupidly good target for any monster that can copy it's effect with even a remotely high level should it remain. It was the best option to copy, but it doesn't mean those monsters weren't gonna be stupid eventually in their own right. If anything, effect copying should come with some notable downsides, such as preventing damage for the turn or locking other aspects like special summoning, but in most cases, there were none (in starving venom's case, it actually gave the benefit of full piercing for all your monsters), and that was just ridiculous for the ability to copy potentially limited or powerful effects where the downside was the original monster they were attached too or a OPT condition.
Another one not mentioned is another boss monster that got revealed recently, which is the rank 8 Magikey Xyz monster. The worst part about it is that it doesn’t have any rank-up summoning condition, so you can’t stack it over a Magikey you already have in your field. Meaning you have to summon two 8 monster, which in Magikey would be your other boss monsters that have much better disruption effects to summon this card, for has a jank burn effect, and who’s only disruption is banishing a monster during your opponent turns specifically. They didn’t need this at all
Can we talk about how weirdly Overdrive is worded? "Must be Special Summoned (from your Extra Deck) during a Duel you Special Summoned an "Ultimate Crystal" monster, by banishing the above cards from your field and/or GY." It and Armed Dragon Catapult Canon are the only cards that have "during a duel" in their text.
@@runningoncylinders3829 Yeah, I just find it weird that the game somehow remembers what you did x number of turns ago. It could be a stall Timelord deck and be 1000 turns after and it would still remember.
@@Shugunou Has anyone ever gotten a draw through an unendable game state? Not an infinite loop like Pole Position which has preventable rulings in place, but a stall so efficient that still allows player interaction to lead to a thousand turn game?
@@runningoncylinders3829 I don't know. The person might have one card in their deck to get through it or at least set up the conditions for Overdrive out of 40 cards and not be lucky enough to draw it since the cards keep getting recycled.
Gotta say, I love the editing of the card arts in with all the descriptions even if its for a short time when necessary dire, it helps the video a lot.
the feeling when generic boss monsters that every deck can make are stronger than the boss monsters locked into an arctype. its one of the reasons why literally every duelist ends in THE SAME EXACT ENDBOARD I wish there was more variety
To be honest I'd say the true boss monster for Naturia would be Naturia Exterio, a Fusion monster (Insert Metal Gear exclamation mark sound effect) which requires exactly Naturia Beast and Naturia Barkion, no substitutes allowed, and it allows you to negate a spell/trap by banishing one card from your graveyard and then milling one from your deck. While it's not bad, it requires you to play Polymerization in a synchro focused deck and also if you have both Beast and Barkion on the field you've probably already won the duel anyway.
As someone who played a lot of Six Samurai decks... Shadow of the Six Samurai was meant to be used to power up Kageki to a 3500 beater for a turn. Granted, not exactly a good gimmick, but that saved my ass a few times.
With how much Konami loves to pander to DM nostalgia, I'm genuinely surprised that Gate Guardian itself has not recieved a retrain or something similar. The pieces being better than the boss monster since forever is pretty funny tbh, but the boi deserves a glow up.
I'm sad that you didn't even mention Rainbow Dragon's boost eff can only send Crystal Beast monsters in your monster zone and not the ones in your S/T zone, which is you know, the entire fucking point of Crystal Beast
Didn't make it into the video, sadge, but the one I suggested was Exodia Necross Exodia Necross is even worse than I suggested because I forgot that Contract with Exodia only summons from the hand. So not only do you need to get all the pieces into the graveyard you also have to find this one spell and have the card already in your hand. Masterful design 10/10
Technically for the dark flattop ruling is that specifically is that if it wants to be able to ignore summoning conditions it has to be from the hand (which is why “a wild monster appears” works) but because by game mechanics a monster that needs to be summoned from the graveyard has to be first properly summoned first in order for those types of effects to work.
Crystal Beast first way of winning was wiping the opponant's board at the cost of resources and then going for game via summoning your CBs back, which Overdrive does. All the other Rainbow Dragon connected bosses including the original wipe the field at the cost of resources. And in the anime the field clear effect was a last minute counter. Rainbow Dragon's issue is less it did not make sense for the Deck and more it literally did nothing because it’s clear effect was not a quick effect and they gave it summoning sickness. It's an example of a card they gave an effect they were too terrified of.
Eldlich the Mad Golden Lord is pretty good. I find it's main purpose is to give Eldlich floodgate decks an out against opponent floodgate decks, including other Eldlich decks. If my phantasm deck is outpacing regular ole' Eldlich, and their skill drain can't cut it against a token normal monster, just slap his fusion boss on the field and he'll clean things right up.
Absolute hercules is one of those fusion monsters the Vrains side characters pull to show how much they have grown, only to be run over by the bad guy on his way to duel playmaker
I just want to point out that while yes Shien doesn't really affect a whole ton with its effect it can set a Kageki to 3500 and much less powerfully, a Kizan to 2400. It also was played essentially to have another monster on board at the end of a long chain for extra counters on Gateway and to recycle a Kizan at the end so you do have a follow up play if your board gets cracked. So while it doesn't seem to do a whole lot on paper, Shien was actually quite good for the archetype and was summoned nearly every game in that era.
The magnet warriors fusion is something I do use. You can block dragon the material and then nemesis keystone the valkerion back to deck. Magnet delta can also pop it out
Late to the party, but Fabled Leviathan is literally not needed in Fabled Decks. It’s a level 10 synchro in a deck with low-level monsters, so it should be the end goal of combo plays right? Well, it’s only effect triggers on destruction (and needs to be sent to the graveyard at that), is to return up to three Fabled monsters from the graveyard to the hand. This effect can also miss timing. Card is literally just a 3000 Atk beat stick with a decent floating effect.
Orcustrion was actually really good when it was released. The ATK/DEF drop and negation is permanent, and it affects all of your opponent's linked monsters, not just ones Orcustrion points to. You also have to remember this card came out more than a year and a half before AccessCode Talker did. It was a really good card that stole games. I played it as a one of in addition to Topologic Bomber Dragon. As for Shadow of the Six Sam, They still played that damn thing. it put counters on gateway and It turned Kageki into a 3500 beatstick for OTKs. With Dark Flattop, that's sort of not accurate. In Yugioh, when a card effect doesn't align with game mechanics, you follow what the card effect says. So in theory, that was what Konami was going for with Dark Flattop. I honestly am unsure why Konami officially decided to rule that you couldn't summon a Skyfire that wasn't summoned properly first with Dark Flattop.
To this day I'm still playing Orcust, so yeah, I'm used to hard coping, and I actually cut Borrelsword from my list to go back to playing Orcustrion. I'm playing the Machina variant and Ruinforce can be a little rough on your graveyard, so Orcustrion being able to put basically any 3 monsters back into the deck is quite valuable, and Ruinforce keeps fueling him. Also dropping Orcustrion on an established board and getting to negate 2 or more dudes is not that bad at all. Also not that bad to have a 3k beatstick that can crash into other 3k beatsticks and survive.
To your Flattop comment: Although you're right that card text overwrites mechanics, the text in Dark Flattop doesn't aim at the right mechanic. It basically overwrites Sky Fire's effect, yes, but it's not at all concerned with the topic of "properly" summoned. That's why Konami just fucked up, or didn't want to make the card good in the first place
@@Akkuseru yup. It's a shame it lost some of it's power with the Master Rule 4.5 update. Makes him a bit less powerful against synchro, fusion and xyz decks now that they don't require links.
For some more recent examples Frightfur Chimera:A Hyper offensive deck getting a boss that probably means you already have game when you summon it requiring 3 mats for a medicore Goyo Guardian effect Judgement, Dragon of heaven:Micheal the other synchro is a decent removal option and Judgement dragon was powerful for the time. This monster is a medicore field nuke that requires addtional set up and locks you intl dragons Nearly all of the high leveld maindeck D/D/Ds:The Archetype is fucking huge but minus Raganorock and if you reach Leonidus and Apocaplyse thr level 5+ main deck monsters are laughable bad Dogmatika rituals: taking 1-2 cards from your opponent's ED is only useful in a scrnario in which the entire deck revolves around resolving that single monster and don't provide much protection Darkfluid Dragon:Just use Accesscode
True about the six sam xyz but in all fairness you can make the six sam link and six sam kageki pretty big thanks to him. But yeah we usally summon him for gate counters xD
Orcustrion isnt actually that bad, there are just better options. In 2019 pend with mermaid, you played orcustrion because it was pretty much necessary in breaking a thunder dragon board by negating everything. After aswell you could just slap on ding
Whenever I think of a good card that doesn't synergize with the archetype it belongs to (and technically doesn't even belong to it) I think of Vennominon and Vennominaga, who aren't even Venom monsters and are just so absurdly good compared to any monster of their (true) archetype. Yeah they work with reptiles but at that point you could throw them in an Alien or Worm deck and they'd honestly be better off.
Quick mention to Frightfur Chimera and Dangerous Frightfur Nightmary: Chimera is a Goyo Guardian and Armades put in one card and yet this doesn´t see play because you rather destroy everything with Tiger/Whale and go for game with Wolf. Nightmary its even worse, she has a base atk of 2000 and gains 300 atk for every fairy and fiend in your gy but only during YOUR turn, then if it destroys a monster by battle you can send frightfur, fluffal and/or edge imp monsters from your deck to gy equal to the LEVEL of said monster, so no pluses if it destroys an XYZ or a Link monster, and finally she has a negate wich only protects herself from target and you have to BANISH a frightfur from the extradeck as cost, doesn´t even destroy the card it negates.
My go-to example for this is Time Lords, because they have 2 bosses that suck; Sephylon, who can only be summoned if there are 10 fairies in grave, is almost always dead because every other timelord shuffles themselves back into deck during the end phase, and vorpgate, a level 10 synchro in an archetype of level 10 monsters with no tuner
Technically, the Earthbound Immortal Boss Monster is Earthbound Immortal Wiraqocha Rasca, a 100/100 with the same effects as the others, and it’s own effects witch read: If this card is Normal Summoned: Target 1 to 3 cards you control, but not more than your opponent has in their hand; shuffle them into the Deck, then discard the same number of random cards from your opponent's hand (or as many as possible), and if you do, this card gains 1000 ATK for each card discarded by this effect. Witch is ok, and could leave it with the most attack out of all the earthbound immortals, but this is in exchange for opponent Spell/Trap immunity, the ability to drop the opponent’s LP to 1 in exchange for the battle phase and most importantly, 99 Attack and Defence.
I can't believe that the ultimate branded monster(s) is/are synchros (Luluwalilith and Dis Pater) I can't believe that this man that prediction a year ago. It is wild.
Shouts out to those people who got to use Orcustrion during the N/R festival. Its pretty good when you ban every other link 4 monster with spot removal and very bad otherwise. Try it on your next N/R festival play through if the event comes around again for that once in a lifetime opportunity lol.
My input on this is Daigusto Eguls. A level 7 synchro monster, exclusive to an archetype that really only goes into level 6 and lower synchros, that on YOUR end phase lets you banish a wind monster from your graveyard to banish one face down card your opponent controls... that effect is ABYSMAL on any archetype but add on to the fact that Gustos thrive on being low attack using the effect of Diagusto Sphreez and this thing has 2600 attack. Which isnt even good enough to be a beater but also doesnt work with the effect of Spreez all too well. To a lesser extent Daigusto Phoenix and Daigusto Emeral are bad GUSTO cards but not bad cards (well at least Emeral isnt bad). Daigusto Phoenix requires 2 level two monsters, Gusto level 2 monsters include: a flip monster, a "when" condition monster that notoriously misses timing in any normal gusto combo, a good card to keep in your hand to discard for a better gusto effect, a monster that summons "a level 5 or higher gusto monster when destroyed" which includes two bad monsters people wouldnt use in a gusto deck, and Windas much much weaker original form. And Phoenix doesnt even have an overly strong effect for gustos specifically. Emeral is an absolute beast of a card in and deck other than gusto, gusto does good at getting out level 3 cards, not level 4 and the only good level 4 gustos have? IS ALREADY A BETTER ARCHYTYPE LOCKED EMERAL! WITHOUT THE NEED TO PULL OUT ANOTHER LEVEL 4 TO XYZ. At least Sphreez and laplampillica are good...
Oh, Joseph also knows the word "baleen." I wonder if he, too, learned it from reading "Whales on Stilts!". Also please, please, PLEASE let there be a new archetype where its effects are making you various meals.
Scrap Dragon, generic, level 8. Pop one on your field, one on your opponent's field. Scrap Twin Dragon, requires a Scrap Tuner, level 9. Pop one on your field, bounce two on opponent's field. Atomic Scrap Dragon, requires a Scrap Tuner and two non-tuners, level 1. Pop one on your field, return three opponent's card to deck... From their GY. The most clear-cut recent example IMO would be S-Force Justify. What does S-Force want to do? Fill all your columns so they can add together a variety of [bad] stun effects. What does Justify do? Require you to EMPTY two of your columns of S-Force monsters so that you can get one monster negate and POTENTIALLY banish up to three monsters when Justify attacks (note: Lapcewell can destroy all opponent's monsters in S-Force columns). Justify probably wouldn't be that bad if S-Force swarmed better, or if he came with his own useful stun effect, but he's a glorified Imperm at the best of times. Damn shame, because I quite like S-Force but they're just not good.
9:29 bro actually called it… 7 months later and Despian Luluwalilith is a fucking Synchro
But at least there’s Quem
also there's big Dis Pater
@@MushyYGO buddy
That was meant for dragon link, if anything else
@@idosarts_and_krafts my frendo it's for them branded and chaos
@@idosarts_and_kraftsNah you make him in Branded too lol
I just want to point out that Cloudian-Eye of the Typhoon is a Wind/Aqua monster.
Every other cloudian is Water/Fairy, so it doesn’t even synergize with the generic support you would be playing in cloudians like sanctuary in the sky or Kristya
And doesn't help with generic water support like moray of greed
actually two of the cloudians are water/fiend.
I for one support the presence of WIND Cloudians solely because it makes me a little sad that Cloudians are incompatible with Loud Cloud the Storm Serpent, and I like the idea of playing the cloud dwelling snake with the cloud monsters, but I also fully acknowledge this is not a strong reason for splitting the attributes.
Why does this fact make it even funnier
So I guess we found out why he's making that face then
Shoutout to my boy Invoked Elysium, who would be a good boss monster if anyone ran Invoked pure and mechaba wasn't just better then it anyways.
I run it as a dogmatika punishment target in my invoke dogmaitka shaddoll deck
At least it's a good super poly target
Fel runs it in a fun/"RP" deck alongside charmers, including the continuous spell card. Because it just automatically gives the full effect of the card and gives bigger ATK stats
I had some cases where Elysium saved me a game or 2. Great card, a but slow though because the summoning materials, otherwise, the effect is pretty nuts.
I was playing it during the neo shaddoll format. In the mirror super poly clears a winds mechaba and I dropped it on a dino player and literally ended the game by banishing everything
I'm waiting for the Paradox Brothers to get a complete retrain + archetype for their stuff. I know the day is coming
EDIT: yeah I know it’s out now LMFAO
Labyrinth Wall Link Monster that facilitates Gate Guardian and somehow breaks the game let's gooooo
Maybe they could do it along side some spin off duel style that facilitates the duel against them from the anime.
@@DeepCDiva expectation:Requirement: 2 level 7 monster Summoning gate guardian from deck ignoring it's summoning condition, gate guardian unaffected by all card effect.
Reality: 2 effect monster, add one monster that cannot be special summoned from your deck to your hand, immediately after this (quick effect) tribute this card, special summon the added monster, ignoring it's summoning condition.
@@DeepCDiva labyrinth wall that can be used as a field spell.
Oh come on, we haven't even finished milking Yugi and Kaiba's monsters for DM nostalgia yet. Phantom Beasts still haven't gotten support. The 20th wave of Toons hasn't crashed upon our shores. Red-Eyes hasn't gotten another nonsensical wave of gimmicky cards. We'll see the Gate Guardian retrain in 2041 at the earliest
Other cards to shoutout in this category:
The Timelord synchro that cannot be made with Timelords
The Salamangreat ritual monster
Salamangreat level 4 monster with an xyz material related effect and no salamangreat rank 4 xyz
@@rafaelromo9736 there is 1
In the OCG sooo good luck getting it
See I mentioned the Salad ritual monster in the damn thread lmfao
@@idkjustputagoodname6120 Blaze Dragon? That just came out in the TCG in GFTP2
@@AstralPhnx oh
Good
Also gotta love how RUclips notifies me about the comment after I replied
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To be fair to the Rainbow Dragons, Crystal Beasts only have 2 cards that aren't basically vanillas
The deck was already janky when it was released
We’ve been urgently needing the advanced Crystal Beast retrains for years.
All the more reason the cards that require playing all 7 shouldn't be so bad.
2 *monsters* that aren't vanillas, they actually have a lot of good backrow that supports the archetype's gameplan
@@armedweiss5531 Yeah, too bad the monster lineup has like...3 good monsters, one of which requires a Garnet
WattHydra is also extra bad because Watts (especially at the time of printing) absolutely LOVE Messenger of Peace, since almost nothing can beat over Chimera while it's up. You could unironically remove 50 attack from Hydra and it'd be a better card for it.
For the HERO archetype: Elemental HERO Divine Neos
It takes "5" materials to summon: needs to have at least 1 Neos, Neo-Spacian, HERO, and/or Neo Space monster(s) in order to summon. Effect, banish 1 Neos, Neo-Spacian, HERO, and/or Neo Space monster in GY; this card gains 500 ATK until the end of the turn and the banished monster's effect. This is a 12 star, light, warrior monster, with 2500 ATK & DEF.
This is sad because the anime effect is to gain all the monster effects that were used to summon this card.
Almost every Neos card qualifies for the list tbh
Divine Neos was brought up in the thread proper, but didn't make it into the video 😔
@@ab2aasd Sort of... There's a lot of cards that came out to help summon the Neos Fusions easier but, Divine Neos is just a bad card period. No good effect, poor stats, and costs way too much to summon.
@@Gigacorn Most likely MBT wouldn't allow any slander to the HERO archetype.
imagine how much worse is would be if it was a contact fusion like the other neos fusions
Jurrac Meteor?
It's not awful, and flavour-wise it's really cool. But it's a boss monster that never actually... Exists.
also takes far too much effort to bring out, at that point just black rose and be done
Only for a few seconds…
XD
Sadly as an avid Dinowrestler player, I can confirm that Giga Spinosavate is the ONLY extra deck Dinowrestler that is even worth playing, and even then you barely make it because you almost always use Coelasilat to go into generic synchros like Savage or Baronne instead.
Agree. And what's more ironic is that Go Onizuka also have a Gouki deck that very good at link climbing and just better at every aspect than Dinowrestler can be.
@@wisnuamrihidayat3674 When my buddy told me the guy that plays gouki uses dino wrestlers now I was baffled and wondered if they wanted to nerf the character or something
@@slayerrazaro8174 And the funny part is, he did that after he lost to Playmaker, after gaining his "I am galaxy brain because I think faster than you" brain implant, and his "we're playing regular Yu-Gi-Oh now, no anime bullshit" Anti-Skill.
He was supposed to be smarter and better now, and immediately flopped like undercooked bacon.
To a much lesser extent, they did the same thing to Aoi, changing her Deck from Trickstar to Marincess.
@@elijahpadilla5083 Aoi made more plot sense with it being a cyberse deck
@@elijahpadilla5083 wait so because he took a L he went from a consistent hyper link spam deck to a not even close to consistent beatdown deck that can barely summon its bosses? Thats like how zane went from Goats level cyber dragons to cyberdarks
So surprised no one brought up Ultimate Flagship Ursatron. It’s a fusion monster that branches archetypes between the synchro archetype Ursarctics and the ritual archetype Drytron. The only thing these archetypes have in common is that they tribute monsters from the hand to active their effects. What does Ultimate Flagship Ursatron do? Searches drytron or ursarctic monsters if an effect monster is special summoned, and it can grab a banished monster and add it to hand. If this was a continuous spell, it might be worth playing, but as it stands it’s just a clunky monster that you don’t play in either ursarctics or drytron, truly the epitome of modern pointless boss monsters.
Maybe there will be more cards that support bridging the two together copium
@@TheRoseReaper they can’t because ursarctics have an actual draw 7 card, and if the archetype gets any amount of good support then the archetype will become extremely strong
I do disagree for the sole reason that adding an Ursarctic to your hand is like the best thing this deck can do. Plus the fusion spell being a replacement for a tribute is honestly worth it on its own. Sure, the monster itself is incredibly meh but it does something useful to the archetype, something a lot of these can't say.
@@jcprofit hense the copium. Ancient Guardians was such a cool set. Shame we won't get support for the cards until 6 years down the line
whats funny is that in ursarctic you can play foolish burial goods to mill the fusion spell because its cost replacement effect can be used the turn its sent to the gy so it could be good... but ice barrier exists and entirely outclasses it for that. which is just showing how bad ursarctic is.
Worst bossmonster?
Enter Fabled Leviathan. A Level 10 Synchro monster with semi specific materials that has just 3000 Attack and floats when it is destroyed and only when it is destroyed. It doesnt even float on the field, it gives you 3 Fableds back to your hand, which is ok in this archetype, but doesnt save you from your opponent attacking.
Interesting enough Dark flattop can bring out Ancient gear reactor dragon or reactor slime. Gate guardian has a single use which is being an equip-able garnet for Zubaba general.
Valkyrion is still one of your Dark Gaia bunguses.
Gate Guardian has another use: It's the strongest Main Deckable Warrior monster to make UFOroid Fighter with.
@@mystikx2205 and it's searchable... by an awful card.
I maintain that Cyber Eternity Dragon was never meant to be playable as an actual fusion and is only supposed to be thrown from the extra deck by a Cyberdark to get its in graveyard effect.
How? The field spell already does what it does.
It would be okay if defense points mattered ever, but the 4k booty doesn't justify the cost.
@@bijuutamer729 What field spell gives protection during your turn?
I think the actual reason was because Cyber dragons were in a Duelist pack, and they felt obligated to include a new boss monster. But Duelist packs exist to support the cards and playstyles the duelist used; and Zane's boss is unquestionable Cyber End Dragon, which they don't want to usurp but it was a bit to hard to build on. Solution: make a fusion that is literally it's exact opposite and hope that helps.
In retrospect, I wonder if Eternity's reception was why they dropped the "obligatory boss" thing by the time we got to Mai's Harpies? I wonder what that deck would've gotten if they hadn't?
@@GiftOfKnowledge-np9vg Harpie's Eternal Pet Dragon?
The eldlich fusion is a side deck consideration for the mirror match, you can super poly your opponents eldlich away
I used to fuse it in my Eldlich deck but yeah it’s good to play against me
then you super poly IT into a dragostapelia
Okay sure, but what are you accomplishing at that point? They can just get them back anyway unless you OTK right then and there.
@@MsMiDC It's too big for regular eldlich to get over, the only out is to use eldlich effect from grave, don't special summon and use eldlich hand effect. That costs two spell/traps
@@JarvidO Which you probably get back anyway, i'd rather be dealing with eldlich with Evenly Matched or any other thing that banishes eldlich or try to wipe the backrow and otk. If your opponent has 2 eldlich out super poly is a lot of the time not going to be enough.
Funnily enough, the Cloudian monsters in the anime didn’t feature any of the Cloudian that used the Cloudian Counters, so Eye of the Typhoon wasn’t really anti synergy. Just the game and anime going different routes for Cloudian.
Six Samurai actually played the XYZ Shien during 2012 when it came out, specifically for the fact that it is another monster named Six Samurai for Gateway, United, and other archtype synergies. The deck that won YCS Indy in 2012 ran it. The card by itself though is pretty bad.
The modern FTK plays it because you can turn 2 Kizan into it to get an additional name for Saryuja
@@marcmardini6873 The asshole is literally a body double both in lore and in actual viability.
I still believe that gate guardian was an early as hell idea for xyz summoning and a retrain as an xyz that gets bonus effects for each piece used in its summon and gets to use their effects while equipped.
If I may share a conspiracy theory: I actually think they made that. But Konami designers have to think about things the RUclips Comment section rarely does; like "does this actually support anything or sell any reprints", or "is there room to build on this in the future" and of course "would this be more worthwhile as a new deck". So they present is to their bosses as "Hey, I've got this new deck idea about Xyz monsters that combine into a bigger Xyz monster. I originally made them as retrains of Gate Guardian & co. but realized they didn't really serve a purpose that way; so I was thinking we could instead make it a Super Sentai Megazord."
And thus a would've-been Gate Guardian retrain instead became Super Quantal Mech King Great Magnus.
@@GiftOfKnowledge-np9vg I still think there's nostalgia money in duel monsters you just have to shift the focus on the weirder stuff like the gate guardians, pain's demonic cards and protect the castle plan and maybe even the not kaiba and have corrupted / phantom monsters
@@jerryjezzaberry5009 True, but there's a catch with anime nostalgia; people want not just to play nostalgia decks, but nostalgia cards. Heck; to Konami, anime decks usually are their anime cards, especially if it's a deck or themed named after the card.
All that to say; I think it's a bit unthinkable to Konami to support Gate Guardian with the retrain route because people want to play the legendary Gate Guardian. I mean I'd prefer that. With Great Magnus already proving the gameplay experience, all any Gate Guardian support could offer is letting me play Gate Guardian.
But the full retrain route is always the easiest way to feel like you're supporting anything (that's why it tends to appeal to guys on the internet like us when we wonder what support something should get); so anything better requires a bit more creativity, and so I imagine it gets put on the backburner as they work on easier to support stuff.
PaniK, if he ever got support, would probably be treated at least a little similarly, though I'd compare it more to Ishizu in that they'd pick something he played and say "okay, you've got to play this. We'll replace everything else with new effects to replicate the strategy, but this one thing you've still got to play because it'll be named in all the effects. It's the one nostalgia card you're playing and the one reprint we're selling." With PaniK playing nothing good like Ishizu's Exchange of Spirit, it'll probably be the at least semi-iconic Castle of Dark Illusions.
And Ghost Kaiba I don't think would ever get his own deck because there's nothing to his existing deck but stolen Normals, and they can't just make a new deck from scratch and say it's Ghost Kaiba's deck despite playing 0 of his cards. Best you could hope for there is a Phatom Blue-Eyes introduced as new Blue-Eyes support as a nod to the guy.
"What does Cyber Dragon Do? OTKs, that's it."
It's also good at the grind game, but people forget that because the big beaters are far more memorable. Cyber Dragon Infinity is basically a better C101, Nova allows you to loop Cyber Dragons while acting as a footstool to Infinity, and the smaller support cards let you easily recycle your monsters as needed.
Actually, Mad Golden Lord is kinda playable in a Zombie World variant of Eldlich, because you can use the respawning Balerdroch as ammo for its Snatch Steal effect.
I've never understood why nobody seems to like Mad Golden Lord. If anything its main "flaw" is just that normal Eldlich is already strong/consistent enough that its presence probably won't make much difference either way. I guess you could argue that's space you could've used for something else, but outside of that it plays fine in my experience.
Most of the time the extra deck in eldlich is used for pot of extravaganze fodder so it doesn’t really matter
@@ventu7907 True. Although less so in the Zombie World variant, because Zombie World actually likes having an extra deck a lot of the time.
@@desreploid3353 you are right I should have specified I was talking about the trap heavy variation of eldlich
It requires you to play the fusion spell which isn't actually all that good and is really only used to summon Mad Lord.
The beetrooper one is so comically bad that it's better used against it as a super poly target
That modafaqa ensures that if we ever get a meta Insect zenolocked archetype in the future that would put up a full board of "supposed Insect boss monsters" on the field, you would just need to put him in the ED and a Super Poly to whoop all their insect asses into the garbage can. He is more of a Insect counter than an actual Insect support!
Still, requires 4 materials is too much even as a Super Poly target tho, so i guess you have to run him in an Insect deck also, to maybe take 3 from opponent and 1 Insect from you as materials? And that supposed "meta" insect deck must have to dominate so much that you would constantly playing mirror matches for it to be used as a Super Poly target in the first place.
@@sekaihunter9378 thank you for this, I laughed too hard at this 😂
The intent was for you to use the beetrooper tokens to fuse for it, not most of your actual monsters, But I can see why people dont enjoy it.
Ah the Chimeratech Fortress Dragon curse
If verte could send necro fusion it'd be lit
The Magnet Warrior boss is actually summonable off of a 2 card combo that opens up synchro plays with adamancipator cards too. Notice that I said "summonable" but not "good". It is fun when you end on Imperion + borrelload savage and beat your opponent with magnets once in a while.
On the note of useless boss monsters, two words: MELFFY. MOMMY.
As a Melffy player Mommy is unplayably bad. Imagine wasting 2 materials on a 1000 atk vanilla that if you manage to stack 5 materials total on it becomes... a worse Yubel. With no effect protection. When you could have just made Utopic Draco Future or Zeus using your other Melffy Xyz instead.
I'm still mad.
Disagree. Nothing’s funnier than slapping down a card with “Mommy” in the name and watching the life slowly drain out of my friends’ eyes as their life points tick down turn by turn
Melffy Mommy is good against really high attack, hard-to-remove dudes like Blue Eyes Chaos MAX... Until you realise that Ronin Raccoon Sandayu just does that betterm and then you remove mommy from your deck
You can pump melffy mommy full of materials, reprodocus her to a cyberse, rank up into Alembertian and search any spell/trap in your deck...CRAZY!!! NOT CLIQUEBAIT
I can’t not include the mommy card.
Melffy Mommy is a horrible card but it still works in theory with the archetype itself. Its supposed to have synergy with the trap but the trap is bad too (also the is the possible synergy with joyous melffy)
MBT is a madlad. Both Despia and Bystial have synchros.
Man is psychic
Absolute Hercules still pisses me off to this day. It’s not like Beetroopers were hurting for a big bungus monster anyway considering they already had a decent one with Invincible Atlas
Doesn't Atlas' ATK boost effect make it bigger than Hercules anyway? Not that you'd want to use it over the summon effect unless you're trying to flex, but that goes to show just how much of a slap in the face Hercules is.
@@Gigacorn Yeah. Atlas gets 5000 atk with its effect, beating Hercules. What an shitshow of a card lmao
@@Gigacorn the Inzektor player at my locals regularly uses the atk boost to 5K against me because my deck involves a bigger bungus(Nephtys let's Gooo), so it's not completely BM material
@@Gigacorn the Inzektor player at my locals regularly uses the atk boost to 5K against me because my deck involves a bigger bungus(Nephtys let's Gooo), so it's not completely BM material
Im way more pissed at Beetrooper Landing than Hercules. Literally just a searchable poly that goes back to hand at a steep cost.
Hey wanna know what's funny?
The fact that Infernities actually HAVE a boss monster.
A googly eyed brain exposed dragon that pops a monster if you have no cards in hand, but it can't attack when it uses that effect.
This is what you worked for, apparently.
I mean it works with the decks gimmick, was decent at the time and big.
Doom Dragon isn’t good nowadays and even then was usually just worse Dark End Dragon, but the deck could summon it reliably and it had uses for its time.
So I don’t think it really counts
@@frankwest5388 See, THAT'S where the funny part shows up.
They have 3 of 'em, and both do MILES better than Doom Dragon.
Hundred eye essentially is a big combo extender, as you can banish something like Necromancer to bring back Archfiend and keep going from there, and Void Ogre Dragon is basically a negate.
Doom Dragon essentially is the weaker link between the 3 and thanks to certain cards having protection or floating, One singular pop effect ain't doing much nowadays.
The funniest part is between Infernity and Blackwing is the former uses Onimaru as a boss monster while Blackwings now use Lyriluscs as boss monsters.
Even in DL Infernity still uses Onimaru cause we have Coral Dragon.
In the defense of Ultra Beetrooper Absolute Hercules: The way it is supposed to work is by summoning back Beetrooper Light Flapper, which gives you back to your hand another 2 Beetroopers from your GY or banished cards, which makes Hercules "just" a -1 on the first attack, but more and more efficient every subsequent battle phase. And yes, Beetrooper can not only easily pull that off, but the whole engine can loop itself to be usable forever. Unfortunately that doesn't remove the fact that Hercules can in fact be destroyed by battle, making it way too vulnerable for the initial investment it demands.
Not to mention you can send resonator insect, gokipole, the link-2 that can banish 3 to comeback (giving neptune the ability to summon himself from hand) and any amount of tokens. The fusion isnt bad at all, infact beetroopers can consistently end board with Absolute Hercules, Mighty Neptune, Invincible Atlas and a cicada king. And being immune to everything is really nice since Neptune can boost it by 1000 each end phase
@@shiggydiggyjones9953 True, except for the boosting thing as Hercules is unaffected by your own effects as well and you should try to "reset" him once he becomes affectable if you can.
Cant believe we didn't see Crimson Nova Trinity the Dark Cubic Lord. While it has good effects, it requires exactly 3 copies of its smaller version, Crimson Nova, which often wins you the game on its own.
And for some reason the archetypical fusion card is a trap, and its effect is a vanilla fusion effect. Doesn't do anything extra to make the summoning easier.
@@Kerim9991 And even worse, Unification is played for its graveyard effect
The branded sunchro commet aged fantastic
I will not stand for this orcustrion slander, it was insane for like 2 weeks for a specific otk against danger thunder before hieratic seal
So the Branded synchro comment aged poorly
so... are we just going to ignore that comment at the end there about Branded Synchros, and the fact that Cyberstorm access brings Synchro for 2 different branded decks (being Despian Luluwalilith, and Bystial Dis Pater)
The prize of modern terrible bosses have to be for dual avatar,their engine is insane(if boring and one note) just held back by not having one single good boss,likely by design but still
Make a level 11 dual Avatar that combines both the fist and feet together like they were meant to Konami
5:15 Oh man, Cloudians were my absolute favorite deck to play back in the GX era so this one took me back lol. But there's another thing you didn't mention that makes Eye of the Typhoon an even worse boss monster, and that's that it was the ONLY Cloudian to be Wind/Aqua while all the others (or at least all of the important ones) were Water/Fairy. This excluded it from almost all of the important generic support, particularly things like Sanctuary in the Sky and Salvage, that was run with Cloudians at the time. So not only did its effect not synergize with the archetype, you couldn't even support it with any other cards used to actually help the archetype.
Can’t wait for the branded synchro boss monster with the effect to make it a link monster
Link monsters as overlay units was a wacky one
Orcust :p
they made a branded synchro lmfao
Most Gusto cards:Shuffle monsters from your graveyard back into the deck to get benefits.
Daigusto Eguls, the level 7 "Boss" : Banish a Gusto from your graveyard to destroy one facedown card your opponent controls...
I’m glad they went back and made Blackwing support that actually synergized with Black Winged Dragon
Funnily enough, between Incredible Ecclesia and Golden Swordsoul, you could TECHNICALLY make synchros using Branded/Albaz
9:35 So, uhhhh about that one, huh.
He did specifically say Branded. Luluwalilith is a Despia monster.
Naturia Leodrake's have a nanobot sleeping in them. When the 4th supertype is realeased in like 10 years, the nanobots will wake up and errata every Leodrake to negate that 4th card type.
3:00 Cyber Eternity Dragon does actually have a useful niche...in cyberdarks, to get sent by realm on turn 2 to protect your powerbonded seigerboosted cydra boss of choice as it goes in for the otk.
Black-winged dragon actually does do something, it's effect is: "negate prank-kids lampsies"
How do you feel that the branded archetype did go into synchro in the end?
His branded dreams came true. Only difference is it can be summoned with the new support.
Tfw branded got a synchro
Lmao "that's why I'm lobbying for the ultimate Branded monster to be a synchro!" Damn Apollo with that dodgeball
As a Lyrilusc fan I would like to nominate Independent Nightingale, a fusion monster that requires their better payoff card of Assembled Nightingale as one of its materials. The whole archetype is about rank one XYZ and has absolutely no way to search Poly.
Yeeeeah... Its best use is other cards copying its name and effect. It was an anime reference over playability. The fact that Melodious and Lunalight did not get a "Parasite Fusioner" Fusion is probably because them being Fusion decks already means it would be at least on brand.
It also broke Tyrant Neptune and Supreme King Starving Venom. Lyri fusion was a mistake.
... and yet somehow people would rather ban all the effect copier cards than 1 monster whose sole purpose is to be abused by effect copiers.
@@luminous3558 its less about not banning independent and more about not restricting future card design
@@luminous3558 It's a problem that flows both ways to be fair, those effect copier's will eventually find another target to break with (such as how starving venom copied Electrumite), even if this thing in of itself was not made or banned, and this card will always serve as a stupidly good target for any monster that can copy it's effect with even a remotely high level should it remain. It was the best option to copy, but it doesn't mean those monsters weren't gonna be stupid eventually in their own right.
If anything, effect copying should come with some notable downsides, such as preventing damage for the turn or locking other aspects like special summoning, but in most cases, there were none (in starving venom's case, it actually gave the benefit of full piercing for all your monsters), and that was just ridiculous for the ability to copy potentially limited or powerful effects where the downside was the original monster they were attached too or a OPT condition.
Another one not mentioned is another boss monster that got revealed recently, which is the rank 8 Magikey Xyz monster. The worst part about it is that it doesn’t have any rank-up summoning condition, so you can’t stack it over a Magikey you already have in your field. Meaning you have to summon two 8 monster, which in Magikey would be your other boss monsters that have much better disruption effects to summon this card, for has a jank burn effect, and who’s only disruption is banishing a monster during your opponent turns specifically. They didn’t need this at all
9:36
I find it hilarious that the in universe boss monster (Dis Pater) of the Branded/Despia archetype is in fact a Synchro monster.
Well we did it. The final Branded monster was a Synchro. Good job.
Shoutouts to MBT for actually calling the existence of Despian Luluwalith
Shien is actually pretty good for extending your combo to get more counters/link mats on the field.
the best part about leodrake is naturia has the leodrake's leaf that turns any naturia into a 3000atk monster, negating its effects.
7:47
That is such a jank as Hell ruling
Can we talk about how weirdly Overdrive is worded? "Must be Special Summoned (from your Extra Deck) during a Duel you Special Summoned an "Ultimate Crystal" monster, by banishing the above cards from your field and/or GY." It and Armed Dragon Catapult Canon are the only cards that have "during a duel" in their text.
We have had “once per duel” so it’s not weird for the game to know what a duel is. Just an odd specific condition.
@@runningoncylinders3829 Yeah, I just find it weird that the game somehow remembers what you did x number of turns ago. It could be a stall Timelord deck and be 1000 turns after and it would still remember.
@@Shugunou Has anyone ever gotten a draw through an unendable game state? Not an infinite loop like Pole Position which has preventable rulings in place, but a stall so efficient that still allows player interaction to lead to a thousand turn game?
@@runningoncylinders3829 I don't know. The person might have one card in their deck to get through it or at least set up the conditions for Overdrive out of 40 cards and not be lucky enough to draw it since the cards keep getting recycled.
Ok but MBT was kinda right about the ultimate branded monster being a synchro
Gotta say, I love the editing of the card arts in with all the descriptions even if its for a short time when necessary dire, it helps the video a lot.
the feeling when generic boss monsters that every deck can make are stronger than the boss monsters locked into an arctype. its one of the reasons why literally every duelist ends in THE SAME EXACT ENDBOARD I wish there was more variety
Look no further than Branded
To be honest I'd say the true boss monster for Naturia would be Naturia Exterio, a Fusion monster (Insert Metal Gear exclamation mark sound effect) which requires exactly Naturia Beast and Naturia Barkion, no substitutes allowed, and it allows you to negate a spell/trap by banishing one card from your graveyard and then milling one from your deck. While it's not bad, it requires you to play Polymerization in a synchro focused deck and also if you have both Beast and Barkion on the field you've probably already won the duel anyway.
As someone who played a lot of Six Samurai decks... Shadow of the Six Samurai was meant to be used to power up Kageki to a 3500 beater for a turn. Granted, not exactly a good gimmick, but that saved my ass a few times.
I have a soft spot for Nekroz of Sophia cause it was the first ulti rare I ever pulled, don't get me wrong I'd never play it but still.
It’s a handtrap floodgate, you’d think that’d be enough, but it just isn’t
The fusion Golden Lord was useful, it gave the opportunity to Eldlich to be in the fusion festival xdd
With how much Konami loves to pander to DM nostalgia, I'm genuinely surprised that Gate Guardian itself has not recieved a retrain or something similar. The pieces being better than the boss monster since forever is pretty funny tbh, but the boi deserves a glow up.
Good news . . .
We really need a Gate Guardian retrain.
Nah. We need an archetype for Winged Dragon, Guardian of the Fortress #1.
Good news!
We now have our second tuner directly supporting albaz. A Branded Synchro is looking more and more possible
I'm sad that you didn't even mention Rainbow Dragon's boost eff can only send Crystal Beast monsters in your monster zone and not the ones in your S/T zone, which is you know, the entire fucking point of Crystal Beast
Didn't make it into the video, sadge, but the one I suggested was Exodia Necross
Exodia Necross is even worse than I suggested because I forgot that Contract with Exodia only summons from the hand. So not only do you need to get all the pieces into the graveyard you also have to find this one spell and have the card already in your hand.
Masterful design 10/10
Technically for the dark flattop ruling is that specifically is that if it wants to be able to ignore summoning conditions it has to be from the hand (which is why “a wild monster appears” works) but because by game mechanics a monster that needs to be summoned from the graveyard has to be first properly summoned first in order for those types of effects to work.
This is why Malefic Paradigm Dragon is worded the way it is
Crystal Beast first way of winning was wiping the opponant's board at the cost of resources and then going for game via summoning your CBs back, which Overdrive does. All the other Rainbow Dragon connected bosses including the original wipe the field at the cost of resources. And in the anime the field clear effect was a last minute counter. Rainbow Dragon's issue is less it did not make sense for the Deck and more it literally did nothing because it’s clear effect was not a quick effect and they gave it summoning sickness. It's an example of a card they gave an effect they were too terrified of.
Eldlich the Mad Golden Lord is pretty good. I find it's main purpose is to give Eldlich floodgate decks an out against opponent floodgate decks, including other Eldlich decks. If my phantasm deck is outpacing regular ole' Eldlich, and their skill drain can't cut it against a token normal monster, just slap his fusion boss on the field and he'll clean things right up.
Absolute hercules is one of those fusion monsters the Vrains side characters pull to show how much they have grown, only to be run over by the bad guy on his way to duel playmaker
I just want to point out that while yes Shien doesn't really affect a whole ton with its effect it can set a Kageki to 3500 and much less powerfully, a Kizan to 2400. It also was played essentially to have another monster on board at the end of a long chain for extra counters on Gateway and to recycle a Kizan at the end so you do have a follow up play if your board gets cracked. So while it doesn't seem to do a whole lot on paper, Shien was actually quite good for the archetype and was summoned nearly every game in that era.
For a bit Cyber Eternity Dragon was very playable in the deck. But only as a send if your opponent made you send something off of Maximus or the like.
low key branded synchro boss monster actually became a thing with dis pater
The magnet warriors fusion is something I do use. You can block dragon the material and then nemesis keystone the valkerion back to deck. Magnet delta can also pop it out
Late to the party, but Fabled Leviathan is literally not needed in Fabled Decks.
It’s a level 10 synchro in a deck with low-level monsters, so it should be the end goal of combo plays right? Well, it’s only effect triggers on destruction (and needs to be sent to the graveyard at that), is to return up to three Fabled monsters from the graveyard to the hand. This effect can also miss timing.
Card is literally just a 3000 Atk beat stick with a decent floating effect.
Orcustrion was actually really good when it was released. The ATK/DEF drop and negation is permanent, and it affects all of your opponent's linked monsters, not just ones Orcustrion points to. You also have to remember this card came out more than a year and a half before AccessCode Talker did. It was a really good card that stole games.
I played it as a one of in addition to Topologic Bomber Dragon.
As for Shadow of the Six Sam, They still played that damn thing. it put counters on gateway and It turned Kageki into a 3500 beatstick for OTKs.
With Dark Flattop, that's sort of not accurate. In Yugioh, when a card effect doesn't align with game mechanics, you follow what the card effect says. So in theory, that was what Konami was going for with Dark Flattop. I honestly am unsure why Konami officially decided to rule that you couldn't summon a Skyfire that wasn't summoned properly first with Dark Flattop.
To this day I'm still playing Orcust, so yeah, I'm used to hard coping, and I actually cut Borrelsword from my list to go back to playing Orcustrion.
I'm playing the Machina variant and Ruinforce can be a little rough on your graveyard, so Orcustrion being able to put basically any 3 monsters back into the deck is quite valuable, and Ruinforce keeps fueling him.
Also dropping Orcustrion on an established board and getting to negate 2 or more dudes is not that bad at all. Also not that bad to have a 3k beatstick that can crash into other 3k beatsticks and survive.
To your Flattop comment:
Although you're right that card text overwrites mechanics, the text in Dark Flattop doesn't aim at the right mechanic. It basically overwrites Sky Fire's effect, yes, but it's not at all concerned with the topic of "properly" summoned. That's why Konami just fucked up, or didn't want to make the card good in the first place
@@philippmeier3363 pretty much. like I said, the intention was there but they failed.
@@Akkuseru yup. It's a shame it lost some of it's power with the Master Rule 4.5 update. Makes him a bit less powerful against synchro, fusion and xyz decks now that they don't require links.
Also not to mention if Orcust has their field spell up, the negation becomes a quick effect
For some more recent examples
Frightfur Chimera:A Hyper offensive deck getting a boss that probably means you already have game when you summon it requiring 3 mats for a medicore Goyo Guardian effect
Judgement, Dragon of heaven:Micheal the other synchro is a decent removal option and Judgement dragon was powerful for the time. This monster is a medicore field nuke that requires addtional set up and locks you intl dragons
Nearly all of the high leveld maindeck D/D/Ds:The Archetype is fucking huge but minus Raganorock and if you reach Leonidus and Apocaplyse thr level 5+ main deck monsters are laughable bad
Dogmatika rituals: taking 1-2 cards from your opponent's ED is only useful in a scrnario in which the entire deck revolves around resolving that single monster and don't provide much protection
Darkfluid Dragon:Just use Accesscode
True about the six sam xyz but in all fairness you can make the six sam link and six sam kageki pretty big thanks to him. But yeah we usally summon him for gate counters xD
Orcustrion isnt actually that bad, there are just better options. In 2019 pend with mermaid, you played orcustrion because it was pretty much necessary in breaking a thunder dragon board by negating everything. After aswell you could just slap on ding
the new Blackwing Support actually makes Black-Winged dragon kind of relevant now lol
Whenever I think of a good card that doesn't synergize with the archetype it belongs to (and technically doesn't even belong to it) I think of Vennominon and Vennominaga, who aren't even Venom monsters and are just so absurdly good compared to any monster of their (true) archetype. Yeah they work with reptiles but at that point you could throw them in an Alien or Worm deck and they'd honestly be better off.
I'll be honest, after decades since it was made, the fact that never made a new Gate Guardian is just surprising to me.
Quick mention to Frightfur Chimera and Dangerous Frightfur Nightmary:
Chimera is a Goyo Guardian and Armades put in one card and yet this doesn´t see play because you rather destroy everything with Tiger/Whale and go for game with Wolf.
Nightmary its even worse, she has a base atk of 2000 and gains 300 atk for every fairy and fiend in your gy but only during YOUR turn, then if it destroys a monster by battle you can send frightfur, fluffal and/or edge imp monsters from your deck to gy equal to the LEVEL of said monster, so no pluses if it destroys an XYZ or a Link monster, and finally she has a negate wich only protects herself from target and you have to BANISH a frightfur from the extradeck as cost, doesn´t even destroy the card it negates.
Honestly the Six Sam Xyz could be a vanilla and it would still be playable because its a name that generates Bushido Counters on summon.
My go-to example for this is Time Lords, because they have 2 bosses that suck; Sephylon, who can only be summoned if there are 10 fairies in grave, is almost always dead because every other timelord shuffles themselves back into deck during the end phase, and vorpgate, a level 10 synchro in an archetype of level 10 monsters with no tuner
Ironically, Vorpgate may be a Timelord, but was not used by anyone that played Timelords because it was an ARC V manga card
Back after the new Branded Despia boss is indeed a Synchro
I would argue that Shien isnt the boss, Shi En is, and Shien is required for certain extensions as far as building up Bushido counters
Technically, the Earthbound Immortal Boss Monster is Earthbound Immortal Wiraqocha Rasca, a 100/100 with the same effects as the others, and it’s own effects witch read:
If this card is Normal Summoned: Target 1 to 3 cards you control, but not more than your opponent has in their hand; shuffle them into the Deck, then discard the same number of random cards from your opponent's hand (or as many as possible), and if you do, this card gains 1000 ATK for each card discarded by this effect.
Witch is ok, and could leave it with the most attack out of all the earthbound immortals, but this is in exchange for opponent Spell/Trap immunity, the ability to drop the opponent’s LP to 1 in exchange for the battle phase and most importantly, 99 Attack and Defence.
Once per turn, you lose the duel is a good effect with that link monster that switch monster with opponent monster
Shadow of Six Sam is a big piece of the Six Sam FTK because it's an XYZ that you can summon with 2 Kizan,and that gives you counters on summon
Hieratics also have Sutekh which is just a DAD that loses the material it needs to banish cards.
I can't believe that the ultimate branded monster(s) is/are synchros (Luluwalilith and Dis Pater) I can't believe that this man that prediction a year ago. It is wild.
Shouts out to those people who got to use Orcustrion during the N/R festival. Its pretty good when you ban every other link 4 monster with spot removal and very bad otherwise. Try it on your next N/R festival play through if the event comes around again for that once in a lifetime opportunity lol.
Here in Serbia, we would say "makes you lunch" to illustrate things that do so much for you. For example, Infernoble Knight Renaud makes you lunch. :3
My input on this is Daigusto Eguls. A level 7 synchro monster, exclusive to an archetype that really only goes into level 6 and lower synchros, that on YOUR end phase lets you banish a wind monster from your graveyard to banish one face down card your opponent controls... that effect is ABYSMAL on any archetype but add on to the fact that Gustos thrive on being low attack using the effect of Diagusto Sphreez and this thing has 2600 attack. Which isnt even good enough to be a beater but also doesnt work with the effect of Spreez all too well.
To a lesser extent Daigusto Phoenix and Daigusto Emeral are bad GUSTO cards but not bad cards (well at least Emeral isnt bad).
Daigusto Phoenix requires 2 level two monsters, Gusto level 2 monsters include: a flip monster, a "when" condition monster that notoriously misses timing in any normal gusto combo, a good card to keep in your hand to discard for a better gusto effect, a monster that summons "a level 5 or higher gusto monster when destroyed" which includes two bad monsters people wouldnt use in a gusto deck, and Windas much much weaker original form. And Phoenix doesnt even have an overly strong effect for gustos specifically.
Emeral is an absolute beast of a card in and deck other than gusto, gusto does good at getting out level 3 cards, not level 4 and the only good level 4 gustos have? IS ALREADY A BETTER ARCHYTYPE LOCKED EMERAL! WITHOUT THE NEED TO PULL OUT ANOTHER LEVEL 4 TO XYZ.
At least Sphreez and laplampillica are good...
Oh, Joseph also knows the word "baleen." I wonder if he, too, learned it from reading "Whales on Stilts!".
Also please, please, PLEASE let there be a new archetype where its effects are making you various meals.
Hey, so, random thought: what happened to the Yugituber Awards? Are those still happening?
Scrap Dragon, generic, level 8. Pop one on your field, one on your opponent's field.
Scrap Twin Dragon, requires a Scrap Tuner, level 9. Pop one on your field, bounce two on opponent's field.
Atomic Scrap Dragon, requires a Scrap Tuner and two non-tuners, level 1. Pop one on your field, return three opponent's card to deck... From their GY.
The most clear-cut recent example IMO would be S-Force Justify. What does S-Force want to do? Fill all your columns so they can add together a variety of [bad] stun effects. What does Justify do? Require you to EMPTY two of your columns of S-Force monsters so that you can get one monster negate and POTENTIALLY banish up to three monsters when Justify attacks (note: Lapcewell can destroy all opponent's monsters in S-Force columns). Justify probably wouldn't be that bad if S-Force swarmed better, or if he came with his own useful stun effect, but he's a glorified Imperm at the best of times. Damn shame, because I quite like S-Force but they're just not good.