ANOTHER Monster Hunter Cheater Exposed | juzzi React

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  • Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024

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  • @purrodie
    @purrodie  7 месяцев назад +7

    I edited this at 8am on no sleep, forgive me for missing a censor ;-;

  • @hikariblue4544
    @hikariblue4544 7 месяцев назад +39

    "Cheaters don't cheat to get a faster time, cheaters cheat to get a time faster."
    -Karl Jobst

    • @nai3346
      @nai3346 7 месяцев назад +3

      This is the difference between legit speedrunners and filthy cheaters, the cheaters don't want to put in the effort, while the real speedrunners will carefully analyze everything, even going through the game's code if they have to. The last kind of person you want to try to pull one over on. But a common theme for cheaters seems to be "you guys don't understand, I just played a lot". Which firstly I kind of doubt, because they really do seem to be lazy. Also it's like that guy Todd Rogers, who lied about his time in Dragster, before people analyzed the game's code and found his claimed time was literally impossible.

  • @aarons6935
    @aarons6935 7 месяцев назад +38

    It's ok!! His physician mod/friend will confirm it as legit!

    • @MrRusty103
      @MrRusty103 7 месяцев назад +2

      The monsters are just exhibiting a stress response.

    • @maxnum1sgameclub263
      @maxnum1sgameclub263 7 месяцев назад

      Ooh you mean his physician is called clara?

  • @maus6199
    @maus6199 7 месяцев назад +4

    you can almost see the hammer bonking montage in Purrie's brain while Juzzi is explaining the ai moves, the blank stare says it all

    • @purrodie
      @purrodie  7 месяцев назад +2

      my poor unga bunga brain

  • @dell4u148
    @dell4u148 7 месяцев назад +7

    I am so happy that someone says something about Deva. I was trying my heart out to copy his damage and to get to at least half of his time just to end up squizing my brains out trying to understand why i can`t see his numbers in my gameplay regardless the fact that i identically coppied his build. Not to mention the fact that he never takes tamage at zero HP left arguing with us that it is moxi and after moxie he simply never takes damage because somehow he is too pro unlike all of us. I have over 2000 hours of gameplay and i don`t consider myself as beein a noob , not a pro but still .....The sad part out of this is that cheaters make real players feel bad about trhemeselves maybe even quit the game in thinking that they will never be good enought. Thank you for bringing this out to light!

  • @pera3855
    @pera3855 7 месяцев назад +9

    Basically, Alatreon has a combo of 1-2-3
    > The combo couldn't finish unless it uses the 3rd atk // got interrupted.
    > Lightning rain could only occur in either 1st or 2nd atk, not both.
    So 2 consecutive rains would only occur in 2nd and 3rd move [ _ - rain - rain ] or a chain of combo [ _ - _ - rain ] - [ rain - _ - _ ]
    > However, lightning rain couldn't occur in the 3rd atk, so this is literally impossible.
    > Another way Alatreon could cast lightning rain is with conditioned atk.
    > In this case, if a hunter grapple on it, it could have a chance to cast lightning rain, which could follow the combo to create 2 consecutive rains.
    [ grapple - rain ] - [ rain - _- _ ]
    The catch is that he didn't grapple to satisfy the condition in the vid. Therefore, it must have been modded.
    A RNG manipulation is increasing the chance of sth that is possible to occur in game. This, on the other hand, could NEVER happen in the game. To call it RNG manipulation and then gaslight other runners is, unironically, manipulative.

  • @brotherelf
    @brotherelf 7 месяцев назад +3

    Juzzi "the coefficient of the sign is divided by the tangent of the radius"
    Me "unga Bunga hammer go bonk"

  • @procow2274
    @procow2274 7 месяцев назад +7

    I was surprised how unhinged the guy is.
    I always suspected that crit and proc rng and ai mods existed but didn't have prove until now

  • @kamarulbahari152
    @kamarulbahari152 7 месяцев назад +1

    @15:51 This is the face that says "Yep, I understand what I'm reading, but I can't tell what they're saying."

  • @breakthecode4634
    @breakthecode4634 7 месяцев назад +4

    I knew this dude back in a discord forever ago and he used to talk shit about TDS all the time. Stole my cluster shield build that became a staple. (I spent forever on the build to find what other people couldnt for a skill to fit in) and then got me banned from that discord for saying i made that build. I didnt know it went this deep.

    • @purrodie
      @purrodie  7 месяцев назад

      What a diiiiiick

  • @WeaselKing_Obie
    @WeaselKing_Obie 7 месяцев назад +9

    Alatreon deserves better than this. Homie was minding his business to the fullest.

  • @eddieweekley2798
    @eddieweekley2798 7 месяцев назад +3

    Not sure if this was mentioned anywhere, but the fix spawn mod that pretty much everyone uses for runs fixes the spawn to A, B, or C (60% / 30% / 10%) spawn points. Within those individual spawns monsters have various starting points that they can start at and have separate paths they can walk once the quest starts. He wanted to commission a mod that would not only lock the initial spawn point, but also control the sub spawn and pathing of the monster. That would be a huge advantage just for the amount of attempts you can get. I've done runs int he past where within the first 12 seconds I would know if I had to abandon the quest just because at a certain point the run is so optimized you have to have a specific sub spawn.
    As good as this kind of mod would be it's nothing compared to modding movesets which is basically what was done on Alatreon.

  • @brigmh6860
    @brigmh6860 7 месяцев назад +2

    Fun fact, modifying the monster AI would still be considered cheating even if he labeled it as a tool assisted run. If you're modifying how the game functions, you're playing a different game than everyone else.

  • @kitchengun1175
    @kitchengun1175 7 месяцев назад +7

    I already knew deva was cheating (it's pretty goddamn obvious when you watch any of his vidos) so the only reason i really ever interacted with his channel is to see funny bugs like Hollow Purple Meowcano
    didnt know he was that much of a depraved pc master race psychopath
    that is a lot of crazy stuff in those screenshots 😭

  • @OldRedGrizzly
    @OldRedGrizzly 7 месяцев назад +4

    So yeah, no, it is not RNG manipulation. RNG manipulation is working within the confines of the game to affect its code in real-time. For example, doing certain actions to create a memory dump or some cause-and-effect that affects, say, how something else loads to get a consistent result out of it. Altering files of the game is *NOT* RNG manipulation, that's just straight up tampering with the game.
    Let's take Pokemon as an example. RNG manipulation would be like "if you give certain pokemon these specific moves, arrange them in this specific way in your party, use these specific items, and do some specific actions, it creates a memory overload that is then carried over into random encounter code and can be used to consistently spawn this specific wild pokemon that you need further into the run." That is what RNG manipulation actually is. It's a careful setup of utilizing the way the game works internally to manipulation into a favorable outcome.
    Also, another point, "tool assisted speedruns" are *NOT* considered as legitimate speedruns. They are used as a proof of concept; special programs that can control elements of the game, such as button presses, to create a hypothetical instance of a speedrun. Nor are they mods, they are not. They are not mods. And modding a game is considered cheating. TASs are really used to either simulate a run or something specific in a run, or are used to help better understand how a game works.
    For example, in Super Mario Bros, the fastest created TAS speedrun is 4: 54. 032. This isn't a record, nor is it considered a legitimate speedrun. The point of it is "this is the theoretical limit, the game can be played no faster." It is a proof of concept of the perfect run; every button press played to the maximum precision, every movement perfect. Btw, the actual world record is 4: 54. 631, held by Niftski (EDIT: RUclips thought they were timestamps, oops). Another use for a TAS is to determine the possibility of certain moves. In one of the Mario Karts, a TAS was used to discover a "super shortcut" on Rainbow Road which involved sliding in this tiny, tiny strip of road outside of the railing. It was thought to be "TAS only," or in other words, humanly impossible due to the sheer precision in both movement and timing. They were wrong, someone actually did manage to accomplish it.
    This is what TAS are used for, they are not for actual runs, but merely to show something may be possible (or impossible) in an actual run. It would be cheating if there was any tool assistance during an actual run. And again, in most cases, modding of any kind is also considered cheating. In many cases, for console games, even using emulators isn't allowed due to how a PC could affect how an emulator runs, so runs are only accepted if done on original hardware.
    Last thing, I love your model, it's so cute! ❤

  • @JoyUwU
    @JoyUwU 7 месяцев назад +10

    Another one bites the dust 😂 when will these people learn that if they cheat or fake things, they will be caught lmao edit: don’t cheat with hammers, listen to Purr haha

  • @insanity3530
    @insanity3530 7 месяцев назад +8

    At this point.... I feel bad for Alatreon!!
    And physicians!!

  • @bloomleaf8310
    @bloomleaf8310 7 месяцев назад +1

    42:07 I agree with the sentiment, but pretty much any game that has random elements is fixed in some way, either in game ai manipulation or mods, speed running sort of lives or dies on consistency.

  • @TheLeviathan1293
    @TheLeviathan1293 7 месяцев назад +2

    I love that black and white model!

  • @WhiteVaporeon
    @WhiteVaporeon 7 месяцев назад +1

    Okay I'll be honest here. If this video wasn't reacted to by Purr, I wouldn't have been able to sit through it myself. Thank you Purr for the awesome react video! Looking forward to watching more. 💖

  • @winterrrmute
    @winterrrmute 7 месяцев назад +4

    «another one» - dj juzzi

  • @Synfuls
    @Synfuls 7 месяцев назад +5

    Another one -DJ Khaled

  • @procow2274
    @procow2274 7 месяцев назад +2

    Oh it wasn't censored when i saw it

    • @purrodie
      @purrodie  7 месяцев назад +1

      It isn't in the original! But I wasn't comfortable uploading it uncensored haha

  • @OutlawViIe
    @OutlawViIe 7 месяцев назад

    Editing the behavior of the monsters and their HP / spawn location to me is like a Mario Speed runner modding/editing the map so the end is 1 block from the start and then bragging about a world record.
    It's silly and dumb

  • @MelchaiaV
    @MelchaiaV 6 месяцев назад

    The whole 300 runs claim is just a wierd flex. It's like saying that he's supposed to be so good at something but afaik, 300 runs is super low.

  • @tankulator5042
    @tankulator5042 7 месяцев назад +2

    Deva: You might as well check all of the runs and not just witchhunt me
    Also Deva: There are lots of other cheaters but I won't call them out
    Sounds like bogus tbh. He's just saying that to make himself look not so bad. There are a few cheaters, sure. But a lot? Probably not. Would love to see his video about 99% runners being tool assisted.
    Also gotta love how all these cheaters jump on the "bUt It WaSnT cOmPeTiTiVe!1" excuse. Queencheatsalot said roughly the same thing when she was clearly fishing for attention lol

  • @Nakata2021
    @Nakata2021 7 месяцев назад +2

    "Cheating just happens"

  • @Mitsoxfan
    @Mitsoxfan 7 месяцев назад

    Someone needs to blindfold speedrun these walls of discord text.

  • @Warpded
    @Warpded 7 месяцев назад

    Another one? Fucking why? This is just Groundhog Hunter at this point. Break the loop

  • @Tu-Li-Oh
    @Tu-Li-Oh 7 месяцев назад +1

    I respectfully disagree about the harassment.
    Some people earn it, and go the extra mile. If he gets harrased due to this, it's totally expected.
    I'm personally sad, since I liked the cat theme of his videos, but oh well, another cheater bites the dust, so that's a good thing.

  • @habit585
    @habit585 7 месяцев назад

    you missed blurring a f word on the discord (top left, second line) if you were trying to blur them all out.

  • @Ushiwakamaru_BAU_BAU
    @Ushiwakamaru_BAU_BAU 7 месяцев назад +1

    For real? This will be a fun watch

  • @ibysdagon4659
    @ibysdagon4659 7 месяцев назад +1

    Normally, all this stuff is in categories. Like any% 100% tas ect.
    Also, I guess he's not wrong if you're using the direct definition of rng manip, but usually it's a in game mechanic you'reexploiting. Like final fantasy used step counters to determine some rng in games so you can avoid encounters by stepping right. Modding the code of the game with out of game methods is just cheating. Might as well use a Game Genie. It's fine if it's a tas run but don't put that as a any percent or something.
    But rng can be an issue. I can imagine grinding for hours to get a good run only for it to die in the last 5 minutes because you need a 1/4 rng chance to work and not kill the run.

    • @Delicioushashbrowns
      @Delicioushashbrowns 7 месяцев назад

      I was thinking they could add a category for set movelist, would that make sense in MH? Sort of like set seed in Minecraft where the idea is to complete a run in that seed where you know where everything is ahead of time and trying to optimize that. But IDK if DPS is a huge thing in this game and optimizing that with move optimization.
      Outside of that, though, this is hella cheating and should be called out.

  • @Kyle81290
    @Kyle81290 7 месяцев назад +1

    Speedrunning is full of cheating and bug abuse anyways, that's why I never cared about any speedrun channel

  • @TheLeviathan1293
    @TheLeviathan1293 7 месяцев назад

    4:38 You missed an f word, second line first word. Omg this dude is unhinged.

  • @disturbedpyro4511
    @disturbedpyro4511 7 месяцев назад

    Dude can’t even form a single proper sentence and he’s insulting people’s intelligence!?😂😂😂

  • @randomperson-up5vt
    @randomperson-up5vt 7 месяцев назад +1

    How dare your head cover the second video, unacceptable...okay I just wanted to complain about something. Have a great day now

  • @HeeroAOD
    @HeeroAOD 7 месяцев назад +2

    oh no. you missed blacking out one F word on the top left in the first part of the video

  • @maus6199
    @maus6199 7 месяцев назад

    i hv 301 runs I can confirm the cheating just randomly happens

  • @inkquisitor_YT
    @inkquisitor_YT 7 месяцев назад

    Ah shit, here we go again.

  • @bluezenith51
    @bluezenith51 7 месяцев назад +1

    I watch a fking.lot of iDevaste's videos. TBH, I don't know how speed running in MHW works but all his contents is most of the time all about manipulation. Even some of them mentioned "TAS". So I just assumed that he mainly makes that kind of run just for entertaining. Never thought that his run should be categorized as like "Official speedrun". Maybe people have the same idea and maked them ignore his run. Maybe not now😅.
    Sorry, I want to write more things but gonna leave it there to get only some main idea.

    • @eddieweekley2798
      @eddieweekley2798 7 месяцев назад +2

      Deva has 69 records on the Iceborne leaderboard and even though that board is close it shows that he wasn't doing runs purely for entertainment. If they were labeled as TAS then it wouldn't really be a big deal (though the impossible move combo would still be an issue for a TAS).

  • @TheBasedDonHoly
    @TheBasedDonHoly 7 месяцев назад

    Why is it always Alatreon?

    • @hirotakasugi4891
      @hirotakasugi4891 7 месяцев назад +1

      Easiest to cheese.

    • @kurisupipatata3486
      @kurisupipatata3486 7 месяцев назад

      Fatalis is way easier to cheese than Alatreon. Alatreon is being manipulated a hell lots because it is one of the most complex mechanics in the game. AT Velkhana and Fatalis only hits hard.

    • @TerraRuns
      @TerraRuns 2 месяца назад

      Alatreon has a wide range of different attacks. Some of them are so beneficial for you’re dps that you’re able to have 95% damage uptime or some so bad that it becomes literally the opposite. Also his flying mechanic is important, especially for ice alatreon.

  • @techead23
    @techead23 7 месяцев назад

    If you're modding, then its not an actual speed run

  • @ndr2q
    @ndr2q 7 месяцев назад +1

    Ear wiggles ❤

  • @jotarokujo3603
    @jotarokujo3603 7 месяцев назад

    I can't wait to see Juzzi's video exposing Purrodie.

  • @jimmicrackhead12
    @jimmicrackhead12 7 месяцев назад

    Too soon 😔

  • @danielnorton9803
    @danielnorton9803 7 месяцев назад

    I really like the design of your avatar

  • @LunaBlanche7328
    @LunaBlanche7328 7 месяцев назад

    MY GOSH you are so cute when you laugh at degenerate people XD

  • @serenity3157
    @serenity3157 7 месяцев назад

    I watch this guy like once didn't know he is a cheater lol

  • @lawrencelopez9839
    @lawrencelopez9839 2 месяца назад

    idevaste recently released a video addressing their cheating. Eh. Nobody cares enough about him to watch it from the view count.

  • @severren1095
    @severren1095 7 месяцев назад

    If your gonna cheat/mod Do it Solo or at the very least make it clear HEY THIS IS MODDED
    Like me making Custom quests in 4u because I find that funny. Like beating up a shah dalamadur for like an hour and a half.
    But I have a rule. If I do that I play solo. If I record I turn that off or make sure its off.
    I dont get people who just submit speedruns using that.

  • @moisesramirez5242
    @moisesramirez5242 7 месяцев назад +1

    Damn and I actually subbed to deva and watch his vids🤦‍♂️god damn it

    • @daorasama
      @daorasama 7 месяцев назад +1

      Ya even tho without the mods , most of us casuals cant do what he does...but thats not the point...point is hes not very transparent to his viewers...n hes kind of a D to others too apparently😅

    • @moisesramirez5242
      @moisesramirez5242 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@daorasamayea like I tried to follow his builds and shit. Build or not If you control how the monster moves it doesn’t matter but whatever, bro about to lose subs for sure after being exposed

  • @marzblood
    @marzblood 7 месяцев назад

    If you are not using what is official in the game and the actual game it sell you are cheating. Emulators are a very no go.

  • @hirotakasugi4891
    @hirotakasugi4891 7 месяцев назад

    Speed Run should only be considered on a base unmodded game. Same thing with glitchless. Glitches shouldn't be considered for any "speed" completion.

    • @maxnum1sgameclub263
      @maxnum1sgameclub263 7 месяцев назад

      You have categories for that tbf, like the 100% runs and the any % runs. Most mario speedruns are based around exploiting the game and fall into the any % speedrun type. For monster hunter you can debate it tbf, do you allow ui mods wich only help you with seeing the info ui more clearly. Or do you allow no mods. Like some mmo’s players have a different UI per person, should we never allow them to speedrun. Or people use other input devices then a keyboard. I use a keypad for medical reason and a naga mouse so i have all buttons much faster available the a regular keyboard player. Would that count as cheating? There is a lot of modding that can be done outside the game. So where do we draw a line.

    • @hirotakasugi4891
      @hirotakasugi4891 7 месяцев назад

      @@maxnum1sgameclub263 I’m saying that should be the only category because that’s the only thing that need skill, a pure unaltered game.
      Glitching is a form of skipping mechanics, hence cheating.

    • @maxnum1sgameclub263
      @maxnum1sgameclub263 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@hirotakasugi4891 thats why you have the any % category, its based on skillfully doing the hardest glitches in videogames like mario 64 and newer titles like alien isolation. Pulling off hard glitches to shave of a millisecond is more demanding then the real game ^^.

    • @hirotakasugi4891
      @hirotakasugi4891 7 месяцев назад

      @@maxnum1sgameclub263 no it’s not. Achieving the fastest possible time without glitching is harder. I dare you to try it.
      Doom Eternal, Ultra Nightmare, no glitch. Beat it faster than 1hr 35min on restricted ruleset.
      Glitches are timed and practiced over and over for the same result. That’s muscle memory. Running the game as is increases variability and therefore involves more skill and decision making, hence making it more difficult.
      Lmao you guys like making excuses instead of actually speed running the games legitimately.
      That’s like using gameshark and saying you beat the game superfast.

  • @adognamedsally
    @adognamedsally 7 месяцев назад

    Once you get really good at a game and can put in the perfect inputs, the only thing left that can change your outcome is RNG, so it's natural for people to want to control that, since they feel that they deserve a perfect run after putting in the work.
    It's just like what Dream did in Minecraft. Yes, it's technically possible to get that level of luck, but so unlikely that it will never realistically happen.
    But when you change the Ai of the monster, that's no longer possible within the game's rules. You've essentially made a new ruleset; it's unfair.

  • @rewriteanime
    @rewriteanime 7 месяцев назад +1

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