I think I can speak for the masses in saying that when I search for a certain product that I have an interest in that I want to learn about, I get a shot of serotonin and dopamine when I find the Loopop thumbnail that covered it for me 😍 Similar to a child's Christmas morning. You are the ultimate dictionary, thesaurus, owner's manual, and user guide in human format and I wish I could rent you. Bless you Loopop.
Those 5 pound plastic cases are just terrible. They feel like recycled Happy Meal toys. They definitely need to build a professional instrument like Moog, ASM, Sequential, etc.
@Kurt Faasse I work a normal, full time day job, run a record label by myself, release my own music, and get paid to tour. If you want something, work for it.
Those new Korg units are both stunningly mesmerizing and scary to me at the same time, haha. SOOO many options and features. All for very little money. That's crazy imho, especially when you look at the very fair pricetag. And to be honest, you don't really need more than one or two of these and can start exploring endless sonic territory, honing your sound design skills. A great time to be alive... Solid and accessible gear for everyone.
Thte UX of these new devices is the best its ever been - but the sound quality is the worst its ever been. Miniaturization and cost-cutting for the Beats/Airpods generation has really brought it down. I recently restored a Yamaha TG77 and the sound quality is lightyears from this toy.
@@xfloodcasual8124 Interesting! We may have lost the sense for great sound due to the lack of machines like the TG77. I mean, when I testdrove the Minilogue XD, I did not compare it to something else and quite frankly liked it, hehe. But I DO own classic drum machines (909, 808) and can clearly sense the difference there when compared to let's say an RD-8 or a TR-09.
Full Ack. I started my synthesizer addiction about 30 years ago, and when I think about how expensive it was back then.... I spent incredible amounts of money together with a friend. For a tiny fraction of that you can get the Modwave today, and that alone opens up a universe of possibilities.
@@xfloodcasual8124 The point is: how do you define "sound quality"? Some synthesizers from the 80s have terrible sound quality (from a sound engineer's point of view, with aliasing, frequency response and all that) - yet they have tremendous character. Like the DX7 or the D-50. "Sound quality" is a completely useless criterium for synthesizers.
Honestly that's probably my biggest reservation too. Sometimes too much choice can be paralyzing, I might end up spending an hour just deciding which filter to use on a patch lol, at least while still getting accustomed to all the choices.
All 3 Korg new digitals are must have and endless fun. Compared to some other manufacturers that do retro replicas, Korg took 3 different synthesis technologies from the 80s and brought them to the new updated level suitable for 2020+. Imagine if they made keyboard detachable so you can easily make table top modules such as Minilogue XD module. Cheers! S
Nobody does this like u bro. There are some wicked channels out there. But sometimes can baffle you. You break it down and Explain the Synth,Drum machine, Sampler etc, so well. It's just another level 👏🙏🔥👊👊💪🔥🔥🔥
I am loving my new sequencer and wish it was a bit larger...it controls a 2600 clone, 500 clone, two moogs, and a matrixbrute and sends data to a force via USB, probably going to buy another. Solid build and speaks fluent MIDI, USB midi, CV and more. I use several sequencers sometimes and this is a keeper. I hope the new model gives us more lights and soft led switchs...the CV units share data as well so the MIDI and CV together is a wet dream.
@Korg: Please, please make Desktop versions of your lovely new digital Synth's. I really do not need more Keys (and especially no bad quality keys ...). I believe that I am far from alone with this wish. I would buy them all!
I have the wavestate which as people already know is very heavy especially in it's ability to create wave synthesis and sounds from scratch. This is here is quite intriguing.
Korg has some interesting sounds which I like. I don’t have any Korgs, and I’m hoping they might release this or the wavestate in a desktop form factor.
Korg making great synths as usual, i was in two minds if to get the wavestate or the modwave and i think this will be in my studio as soon as its out, thanks for the great demo and tutorial.
I own modwave for a few weeks now and still try to tame this beast. In this task, your video is the reference I keep coming back to. So cool, thank you!
I, in a state of weakness that lasted over a week, bought the Modwave and Wavestate from Guitar Center for a really good deal. Thank you Loopop, you are amonst many things the greatest synth salesman on earth.
@loopop: I’m an iPad guy without a laptop so I can’t get the editor for this but this video made me think that indeed I could manage without the computer. What a sound !
Ahh so this is why I got my Wavestate a couple months ago for such a deep discount. It's a win-win for me as I'd rather have the Wavestate than this but this looks amazing too!
Excellent Demonstration as always. All I can add is that "I am sooooooooo glad I just got myself a Wavestate". For me it was just the correct choice. This might be perfect for another Musician. As with all Synth users, the sky is the limit and perhaps this might be a nice companion for the Wavestate. I believe that I would go the Analog route on any future Synth additions.Just my 2 cents.Peace-
@@jaydekaytv the wavestate is with the latest update 2.0 (librarian/editor/user samples) an incredible machine. and the modwave continues these awesome possibilities with wavetable besides wavesequencing. these are not really mainsysnths with 37 keys, but very useful and versatile helpers for analog companions like pro-/mini-/monologue, ph'ty, sub, gr'ma, matr'ch etc. unfortunately, the 80s fm synthesis is not quite my case, so I will certainly buy the opsix at a later date for his functionality beyond fm. i would prefer this formfactor for real korg analog duo-/paraphonic monster besides my logues, something modern between monopoly, odyssey and minimoog, moog subsequent, and instead another copy of multiengine more focus on multitimbral, osc/lfos.
I got my Modwave a few hours ago, found it for 320eur if you can believe. My jaw keeps dropping since I've turned it on, this synth is a whole world of sounds. Similar to Serum in many ways but even more powerful, this is pure love at first sound
About the OSC SAMPLES mode...this is something I figured out just last night which is not obvious at first, so I'd like to share this for any new Modwave users. When you use the drum/perc samples, you'll surely want to repitch them and you absolutely can. On the right side of FILTER section press the PITCH button and in the Osc Pitch you can change Octave, Tune and Transpose to repitch. Hope this helps anyone who scratched their heads over it as I did for weeks, cheers! 🙂
Thanks for another fantastic review. I’ve had mine on preorder since January. I can see it’s totally worth the wait and yes I look forward to designing patches with it.
Love love love the Wavestate. It's a future classic. I'll never get rid of mine. Like the Opsix as well, but not as much. Not feeling excited about the Modwave. The editor is cool for those that want it. I'd love one on the Wavestate. Excellent video as always.
Supposedly an official wavestate editor is very close to release! I couldn’t be more excited. The wavestate is such an inspiring instrument and reminds me a lot of playing with a modular synth.
@@noahtotten Hooray! Wavestate is a lovely and special synth with so much modulation flexibility. It is a bit overwhelming at times, once you get deeply in to the mod matrix... will be nice to have an editor.
I too am not very impressed with how this thing sounds as compared to my WS. The thing I am really jealous of: the pitch lane on Modwave can quantize to a musical scale. I wish they added that to WS because once you start filling in other values than obvious intervals like +7,+12 on the pitch lane, I find it becomes very hard to play freely on the keys and still have good sounding results.
That's an interesting post! I do not own a Wavestate, but I do find the concept of Wavesequencing interesting. That being said, and I only watched the first 8 minutes of this video here; my thoughts were more like "I liked the Wavestate, but this seems even more fun" - So that's contrary to your statement. But YOU own the Wavestate, so I would really like to read WHY you like that better than the Modwave. For real, please elaborate :-)
Hoping for an SE version soon. It's not that I object to the key count it's just that I need to retire my non-velocity sensitive DX27 as my main full-size keyboarded synth so a 61-key Modwave would meet that need.
@@JGW-im3nf The Drumlogue is going to be different tech to the Modwave and Wavestate. It will be a mix of analog, Multi Engine, and samples. It is like a drum machine in the same tech family as the Minilogue XD and Prologue.
Wow! This looks like something I might actually want. The Wavestate wasn't quite in my comfort zone, but this one has entered through a side door... Oh, and that Kaoss Physics feature is almost *exactly* the same as something I was planning to code for VCV Rack. It's like they were reading my notes over my shoulder :) Really pleased to see someone doing that stuff! Well done, Korg.
@@loopop I should probably mention that it's not a short-term project! I've designed it but not coded it, and I've not coded for VCV before. However, it's on my list :)
@@Jason75913 that's interesting, as if i remember correctly, the OpSix prototype pics that originally did the rounds over a year ago were of a 61 keys unit.
This adds interesting sounds to an already crowded palette of wonderful sounds or us it as a decent starting place! Get one as it is a very useful audio design tool.
Same. I really want one of these but hate having attached keyboards. IDK if I want to wait for something that potentially might not happen either though
They have said numerous times, they never will do modules again for any smaller platform. They simply don't sell and they got burned by the mini-series. Which massively undersold. Thats unacceptable post pandemic as a risk. People will be lucky if they manage to get the SE editions out.
I also wish uli's gang released the poly D as a module. I really hate this small keyboard trend. I get why they do it as a compromise but for someone with an already good controller it's just redundant and takes up space.
In sample mode, it would be nice to be able to use the position (e.g. sample start), blend (e.g. loop start), morph (e.g. loop end) and morph type (e.g. loop type) knobs for *something*. There may already be plans for other functions, I am just trying to get more out of the ModWave, because I LOVE IT!
I have to agree that Korg has been on fire. From Gadget 2 to Minilogue XD to this Modwave, Korg is battling 1000! I must add that you, my friend are battling a very close 900.98! Every one of my last 5 or 6 synth buys have been a decision made after one of your video reviews. Did I say that’s been since last December? Let’s see: Behringer Pro One, Behringer Model D, Korg Minilogue XD, Behringer TD-3, Arturia Keystep Pro, Arturia Microfreak, Novation Circuit Tracks, Novation Circuit Rhythm, Korg NTS-1, Korg Modwave, and UNO Synth Pro. Not to mention how many tricks I’ve stashed in my “trick-bag” thanks to your “ever expanding book”. I have an attraction to Korg since my first synth in 1984 was a Korg Poly 800. Just saying thanks for the education and putting the pro level presentation on your work. Very well done. Keep up the great work, I appreciate you. My friends call me JC. Oh, and I ordered Plinky, but as you well know, I’ll be waiting for that one for a while.
Hi you are perfectly in the right as far as synths are concerned. On another hand the workstation machines mine does not appear very coherent on a marketing point of view. Kronos Kross Nautilus Krome I do not see the same vision strength
Did I hear correctly, 32 voice poly + bi-timbral? Great video as always, something about knowing what to expect from a loopop presentation, always consistent and will do the justice needed to understand a synth.
Incredible.. if i got a lot of money then i would buy Waldorf synths, i dont, so this seems to do all the work and maybe more than all the other expencieve synths …again a superb rewiev from loopop :) Thanks :)
I pay a Q alongside the Korg units wavestate and modwave, all three say a lot , even with a half dozen analogs ..IF you do a few house keeping tasks. The problem is fitting in the beats, vocals, and making something you may be proud of in 20 years...check out Tangerine Dream's numbers compared to many others. It is self expression that counts. It took me years to get my gear and reviews warned me away from the bad stuff. I love a good review!
The 2GB of samples really takes this to the next level for me. I love layering musically harsh wavetables with acoustic instruments like drum hits and vocal snippets.
Literally returned the opsix within a week just for that reason. It’s hard to feel compelled by an instrument that feels like a kids toy that will break in half. Super cheap build 🙃
Absolutely! These are the cheapest, worst, most plasticy keyboards I've ever seen on any synth. No reviewer seems to mention it. Wouldn't stop me buying one, though... 😱
Love this sentence:"The chaos physics pad is a unique physics-based element, meaning that as opposed to a regular 2D XY-pad you can curve the 2D surface in a 3rd dimension as well as control other elements of the surface and then throw the xy-spot around that surface as if it was a ball which will in turn interact with that 3d surface as if it was rolling on top of it." ruclips.net/video/fHnkl6dSmgs/видео.html
I used analog synths, digital and VST in a few decades. VST are amazing now and hold an interest for many. But, I have to say I love a hefty knob or two instead of of a mouse. Just my way of doing things now. I use a computer as a work sheet or sample/patch editor, maybe online. Computers can do the job , but they are not intuitive for some.
great demo, as usual. korg really needs to make modules out of all these. i have a wavestate and that keybed is meh. i'm not buying any more of this form factor. i got a kromeEX workstation so i can run all my modules from one place. maybe ask korg to let us import our own samples via these softwares. i REALLY want to load my own wavestate samples and i hope the upcoming software enables this.
They announced a 61 key keyboard version of Wavestate with aftertouch....but no word on when it will be available or if they will do the same for the OpSix and Modwave. Sadly I don’t think we will see desktop versions of any of them
Note that it will only retrigger if no voices are sounding. If anything is sounding, the LFO continues - regardless of whether or not a key is actually being held down. Let me know the use case for which this is insufficient, and I can add a feature request!
one thing I love to do with wavetables, is take the two wavetable positions to static spots, in order to make the resulting sound close to an acoustic instrument. I played around with this a lot on my micromonsta synth. I'm sure the modwave will have so many possibilities both with that, and with custom wavetables, which really interests me the most about it so far. I have already played on my wavestate a ton, and discover new things on it often.
close to an acoustic sound? why? And you have a Wavestate that does that better than any wavetable synth ever. Integra-7, MODX, Juno-DS, or Krome EX also all kill all wavetables at this, from among hardware synths.
@@Jason75913 i like doing that just for the experimental aspect, i.e. how much i can push the static position of single cycles. of course i do all kinds of wave sequences and moving stuff thats of course quite fun. For some reason after doing a few of those acoustic sound things, i thought, how many more of those can I do? haha, and it became this almost fascination. Recently Ive played with filters on analog waveforms to end up with bell like tones. Thats pretty neat too. I dont need to do it, but yea, its a neat side thing I do to see what i can get out of the different synth engines [filters, static waveforms/oscs]
Looks like an amazing creative tool/instrument. The WaveState and PCM patches has zero interest with me....but this Modwave with full sized keys and oscillator sound design is everything I had hoped for in the WaveState. Korg is sure making some fantastic synths today.
Did you get the modwave (I'm still debating on the Hydra/ModV/Argon8) Thing is the wavestate was never meant to be what everyone wishes it was...a wavetable synth... it's a vector synth same as Yamaha's sy35 or kawai's K4 or of course korg's wavestation...why people mistake it for a wavetable synth is beyond me. With that said I feel a powerful trio would be the WaveS/Op6/(insert any of the afformentioned wavetable synths)🤷🏻♂️
@@BendApparatus I'm way behind in my synth technology and purchasing; just bought a new Korg Minilogue a few months ago. I bought a sampler a year ago and need analog synths to sample into it, and then create new instruments from editing and layering multi samples to play on the sampler. I have been watching all synths carefully and still looking for a synth with lots of modulation options and polyphony. But since Roland introduced a version of the JD800 in Boutique, that will be my next synth, and also the the new JX-08 will probably follow. Digital synths with all the physical control analog synths enjoy have been rare throughout the digital decades and can't pass these up. Next I will be upgrading my old digital piano with new technology. Hoping the Mod/Wav/Opsix prices will drop in the mean time.
@@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene the minilogue was a great purchase. I'm stuck in a weird place... I have plenty of fully analog mono synths... And a few poly digital synths... So technically I need a analog poly... But instead I'm looking at another digital poly...🤦🏻♂️ Oddly enough I also have a monophonic digital as well as a monophonic wavetable synth! I'm all over the place...😅
They obviously want you to use that Kaoss Pad - but it looks like its working pretty well. I like the consistency - is KaossPad functionality set in every preset
I never thought about this but a pad seems way more comfortable to me than a joystick. I hate the minilogue XD joystick for the number of times I've tried to use it on one axis and ended up bending the pitch on accident. The pad seems more easily controlled.
Hah. Ironic surname considering Dan Phillips who designed and built it, had hydra in mind when he put this out to beat it. Which it does on specs without effort ofcourse.
@@WyattLite-n-inn yes and no. It doesn’t have MPE and you cannot reorganize wavetables. Hydrasynth played with an MPE surface is an amazing instrument. I can actually imagine Modwave and Hydrasynth together.
Hi I am hesitating, so... had you have the opportunity to compare Hydrasynth and Modwave ? Of course, the choice has to be made soundwise only because I am supposing the polyAT keyboard and ribbon features are great on the HS
Leaves the Iridium in the dust, easily. The price tag is an absolute no-brainer - I think they even paid R2R to release the CPU-hungry VSTi soon, so people would buy the hardware :)
When I got my first hardware synth, it was a Microkorg XL... but that turned out to be kind of a dead end due to its severe lack of physical patch editing controls. So I didn't learn much from it, and it ended up gathering dust once I got sick of the presets. I would have been much better off with something like the Modwave. It seems almost bottomless, and yet is still relatively straightforward to build new sounds and soundscapes on. I don't need one now though. I needed one 12 years ago. D'oh. But I'm glad people today will have nicer instruments than I started with.
@@unclemick-synths When I was a noob, I didn't know how important knobs are... so I went for something with a more powerful engine instead of something with a good UI. :(
@@unclemick-synths I probably would have been better off even with something as simple as a Reface CS. Or a Bass Station 2. Or a Minibrute 2. None of those existed at the time though, so perhaps an Ultranova. Now though, I'm mostly using a Pro 3. It's fantastic. Am planning on using it for a long, long time.
@@ToyKeeper I love my Reface CS. So quick to dial-in great sounds even if just a temporary sound to let me keep working that will be replaced by a sound from a synth that's slower to program.
I think I can speak for the masses in saying that when I search for a certain product that I have an interest in that I want to learn about, I get a shot of serotonin and dopamine when I find the Loopop thumbnail that covered it for me 😍 Similar to a child's Christmas morning. You are the ultimate dictionary, thesaurus, owner's manual, and user guide in human format and I wish I could rent you. Bless you Loopop.
Agreed :D
korg has been on a 5 year run of greatness now.
Those 5 pound plastic cases are just terrible. They feel like recycled Happy Meal toys. They definitely need to build a professional instrument like Moog, ASM, Sequential, etc.
@Kurt Faasse I work a normal, full time day job, run a record label by myself, release my own music, and get paid to tour. If you want something, work for it.
@@VincentPresley I don't get why people say that. Every synth and other thing I own I worked for over the past decade in my career.
@@ncapone87 It was a reply to someone making claims that I was some rich snob. I was just pointing out what I do in order to have these things.
@@VincentPresley oh I figured. I get that too sometimes when I talk about my gear. I'm hardly rich
Those new Korg units are both stunningly mesmerizing and scary to me at the same time, haha. SOOO many options and features. All for very little money. That's crazy imho, especially when you look at the very fair pricetag. And to be honest, you don't really need more than one or two of these and can start exploring endless sonic territory, honing your sound design skills. A great time to be alive... Solid and accessible gear for everyone.
Thte UX of these new devices is the best its ever been - but the sound quality is the worst its ever been. Miniaturization and cost-cutting for the Beats/Airpods generation has really brought it down. I recently restored a Yamaha TG77 and the sound quality is lightyears from this toy.
@@xfloodcasual8124 Interesting! We may have lost the sense for great sound due to the lack of machines like the TG77. I mean, when I testdrove the Minilogue XD, I did not compare it to something else and quite frankly liked it, hehe. But I DO own classic drum machines (909, 808) and can clearly sense the difference there when compared to let's say an RD-8 or a TR-09.
Real talk. All three are vast in their own way
Full Ack. I started my synthesizer addiction about 30 years ago, and when I think about how expensive it was back then.... I spent incredible amounts of money together with a friend. For a tiny fraction of that you can get the Modwave today, and that alone opens up a universe of possibilities.
@@xfloodcasual8124 The point is: how do you define "sound quality"? Some synthesizers from the 80s have terrible sound quality (from a sound engineer's point of view, with aliasing, frequency response and all that) - yet they have tremendous character. Like the DX7 or the D-50. "Sound quality" is a completely useless criterium for synthesizers.
The reality is that I watch your videos just to listen what you make
@@BeastlyAnteater you must be fun at parties
"Mousing around, looking for a knob" - Finbarr Saunders would be proud of you, sir.
Doubt he knows who Finbarr Saunders is tbh 😂
Fnup!
Fnar fnar.
Very nice. Another compelling and original modern synth from Korg! Love it! Thanks Ziv!
I'm overwhelmed by all the features. It looks and sounds amazing but I think I'd go bonkers trying to find the sound I want.
Honestly that's probably my biggest reservation too. Sometimes too much choice can be paralyzing, I might end up spending an hour just deciding which filter to use on a patch lol, at least while still getting accustomed to all the choices.
@@ianmorton1799 I have bought this some great sounds but totally baffling ...
All 3 Korg new digitals are must have and endless fun. Compared to some other manufacturers that do retro replicas, Korg took 3 different synthesis technologies from the 80s and brought them to the new updated level suitable for 2020+. Imagine if they made keyboard detachable so you can easily make table top modules such as Minilogue XD module. Cheers! S
I have the Modwave. The sounds you can get are amazing. Great value for money.
I am totally sold on Korg and love my Wavestate and this I really want also and will buy. Korg please stop producing more great gear ha ha
Nobody does this like u bro. There are some wicked channels out there. But sometimes can baffle you. You break it down and Explain the Synth,Drum machine, Sampler etc, so well. It's just another level 👏🙏🔥👊👊💪🔥🔥🔥
Korg never ceases to amaze me.
korg has passed a few weak units off but they have something for everyone. Some are lost gems!
A fascinating instrument with what seems an endless amount to explore. Very impressive.
I'm just starting this but I'm already happy and shocked to see Korg finally gave us a 64 step sequencer
I am loving my new sequencer and wish it was a bit larger...it controls a 2600 clone, 500 clone, two moogs, and a matrixbrute and sends data to a force via USB, probably going to buy another. Solid build and speaks fluent MIDI, USB midi, CV and more. I use several sequencers sometimes and this is a keeper. I hope the new model gives us more lights and soft led switchs...the CV units share data as well so the MIDI and CV together is a wet dream.
@Korg: Please, please make Desktop versions of your lovely new digital Synth's. I really do not need more Keys (and especially no bad quality keys ...).
I believe that I am far from alone with this wish. I would buy them all!
They're going to be available in May!
I like your way of presenting waveforms with your scope!
I have the wavestate which as people already know is very heavy especially in it's ability to create wave synthesis and sounds from scratch. This is here is quite intriguing.
Love the variety in each of the presets; astounded by the overall depth of possibility. Certainly a unique instrument.
Korg has some interesting sounds which I like. I don’t have any Korgs, and I’m hoping they might release this or the wavestate in a desktop form factor.
It's only a matter of time.
Desktop version for all three would be awesome
Knowing Korg they will make a desktop version that is not rack mounted.
Why ?
Terrible marketing.
I've never really been turned on by Korgs, but some of the sounds this is capable of making are incredible.
Novation and Sequentials new baby gonna be a monster we heard!
@@TheSynthZone I hope so, I have a space on my rack above the Summit for whatever they come up with
Korg making great synths as usual, i was in two minds if to get the wavestate or the modwave and i think this will be in my studio as soon as its out, thanks for the great demo and tutorial.
Thing I noticed most is this is one of the few synthesizers that's gotten a 1/2 hour play after the review. Very interesting synth for live play.
It's the spiritual successor to one of my favorite synths of all time, the Korg DW-8000. I'm buying it.
The DW8000 is also one of my favourite synths of all time and I'm hoping that Korg actually release a plug in version of it one day.
@@madness8556 that would be cool! Nothing like the real thing though :)
I love the immediate connection to its editor software, that puts it high on my wishlist.
One year later I actually own the Modwave and rewatch your video. Thanks again Sir.
Thank you for a quick intro showcasing some of what it can do. Very appreciated
I own modwave for a few weeks now and still try to tame this beast. In this task, your video is the reference I keep coming back to. So cool, thank you!
Thanks and that's great to hear!
I, in a state of weakness that lasted over a week, bought the Modwave and Wavestate from Guitar Center for a really good deal. Thank you Loopop, you are amonst many things the greatest synth salesman on earth.
ummm thanks, I think? I really try and describe what these things do in the calmest and non-sales-voice tone I can
@@loopop That's exactly why. Also your talent cannot be overstated. I really enjoy your channel. 👍🖖🤙
@loopop: I’m an iPad guy without a laptop so I can’t get the editor for this but this video made me think that indeed I could manage without the computer. What a sound !
This thing can generate some seriously ominous to downright goose-bump inducing evil sounds. I'm impressed.
I personally dont care for some of the sounds modwave can make, but the beauty is inside there besides the grungy beast! That defines flexible for me.
Own it, love it - literally my only beef is I want to see the active wavetables within the editor. Maybe with a future update.
The best demos , second to none in my opinion.
Just letting Korg know this video made me put in an order for the modwave. Great review - great channel.
I have been looking for this video! Thank you!
Ahh so this is why I got my Wavestate a couple months ago for such a deep discount. It's a win-win for me as I'd rather have the Wavestate than this but this looks amazing too!
I already have a Wavestate and OpSix but still fancy one of these too...
They're like Pokémon. Gotta catch em all..
Excellent Demonstration as always. All I can add is that "I am sooooooooo glad I just got myself a Wavestate". For me it was just the correct choice. This might be perfect for another Musician. As with all Synth users, the sky is the limit and perhaps this might be a nice companion for the Wavestate. I believe that I would go the Analog route on any future Synth additions.Just my 2 cents.Peace-
What is it that you favor about the Wavestate?
@@jaydekaytv Gary Oldman screams - "eeeeevrythiiiing"
@@jaydekaytv the wavestate is with the latest update 2.0 (librarian/editor/user samples) an incredible machine. and the modwave continues these awesome possibilities with wavetable besides wavesequencing. these are not really mainsysnths with 37 keys, but very useful and versatile helpers for analog companions like pro-/mini-/monologue, ph'ty, sub, gr'ma, matr'ch etc.
unfortunately, the 80s fm synthesis is not quite my case, so I will certainly buy the opsix at a later date for his functionality beyond fm. i would prefer this formfactor for real korg analog duo-/paraphonic monster besides my logues, something modern between monopoly, odyssey and minimoog, moog subsequent, and instead another copy of multiengine more focus on multitimbral, osc/lfos.
@@iosyn5896 well said, minilogue xd is a keeper for sure
I have both and love what they can do together
Love the new gain options with the filter. Hope they add that to the Wavestate.
Another great video review/tutorial/demo, best channel on the interweb! 🎹🔊
I got my Modwave a few hours ago, found it for 320eur if you can believe. My jaw keeps dropping since I've turned it on, this synth is a whole world of sounds. Similar to Serum in many ways but even more powerful, this is pure love at first sound
Late to the party with this one. Impeccable, unbiased review as always. This is what RUclips is made for
And cat videos.
About the OSC SAMPLES mode...this is something I figured out just last night which is not obvious at first, so I'd like to share this for any new Modwave users. When you use the drum/perc samples, you'll surely want to repitch them and you absolutely can. On the right side of FILTER section press the PITCH button and in the Osc Pitch you can change Octave, Tune and Transpose to repitch. Hope this helps anyone who scratched their heads over it as I did for weeks, cheers! 🙂
Thanks for another fantastic review. I’ve had mine on preorder since January. I can see it’s totally worth the wait and yes I look forward to designing patches with it.
These new Korg synths are so deep
I love my Mnilogue XD, I want one of these now.
At last. I've been waiting for this video for a long time.
Love love love the Wavestate. It's a future classic. I'll never get rid of mine. Like the Opsix as well, but not as much.
Not feeling excited about the Modwave. The editor is cool for those that want it. I'd love one on the Wavestate.
Excellent video as always.
Oh yes please, an editor for the Wavestate would be absolutely heaven!
Supposedly an official wavestate editor is very close to release! I couldn’t be more excited. The wavestate is such an inspiring instrument and reminds me a lot of playing with a modular synth.
@@noahtotten Hooray! Wavestate is a lovely and special synth with so much modulation flexibility. It is a bit overwhelming at times, once you get deeply in to the mod matrix... will be nice to have an editor.
I too am not very impressed with how this thing sounds as compared to my WS. The thing I am really jealous of: the pitch lane on Modwave can quantize to a musical scale. I wish they added that to WS because once you start filling in other values than obvious intervals like +7,+12 on the pitch lane, I find it becomes very hard to play freely on the keys and still have good sounding results.
That's an interesting post! I do not own a Wavestate, but I do find the concept of Wavesequencing interesting. That being said, and I only watched the first 8 minutes of this video here; my thoughts were more like "I liked the Wavestate, but this seems even more fun" - So that's contrary to your statement. But YOU own the Wavestate, so I would really like to read WHY you like that better than the Modwave. For real, please elaborate :-)
Hoping for an SE version soon. It's not that I object to the key count it's just that I need to retire my non-velocity sensitive DX27 as my main full-size keyboarded synth so a 61-key Modwave would meet that need.
Hope the Drumlogue video isn’t too far behind!
Who's got one of those??
that’s the one I’m waiting on too! so much exciting/fun stuff coming out just now!
this plus that equals great
The only way I’m buying that if they have wavestate and Modwave sounds built in
@@JGW-im3nf The Drumlogue is going to be different tech to the Modwave and Wavestate. It will be a mix of analog, Multi Engine, and samples. It is like a drum machine in the same tech family as the Minilogue XD and Prologue.
Wow! This looks like something I might actually want. The Wavestate wasn't quite in my comfort zone, but this one has entered through a side door... Oh, and that Kaoss Physics feature is almost *exactly* the same as something I was planning to code for VCV Rack. It's like they were reading my notes over my shoulder :) Really pleased to see someone doing that stuff! Well done, Korg.
Would love to see that in VCV!
@@loopop I should probably mention that it's not a short-term project! I've designed it but not coded it, and I've not coded for VCV before. However, it's on my list :)
Superb stuff. As with the upcoming Wavestate SE, I'll await the full size 61 keys version, with velocity & aftertouch.
if the Modwave sells enough first, and I think it might
Opsix is the one that may not get a higher-build-quality SE version 👍
@@Jason75913 that's interesting, as if i remember correctly, the OpSix prototype pics that originally did the rounds over a year ago were of a 61 keys unit.
That is a heck lot of synth! Thank you again for another amazing review.
Omg ..want this one !!!
bought a wavestate last year because of you.
my bank manager would like a word. :-)
This adds interesting sounds to an already crowded palette of wonderful sounds or us it as a decent starting place!
Get one as it is a very useful audio design tool.
Korg is killing it, as are you good sir @loopop
I really hope this series comes out in desktop form eventually....
Same. I really want one of these but hate having attached keyboards. IDK if I want to wait for something that potentially might not happen either though
Bump
They have said numerous times, they never will do modules again for any smaller platform. They simply don't sell and they got burned by the mini-series. Which massively undersold. Thats unacceptable post pandemic as a risk. People will be lucky if they manage to get the SE editions out.
You can probably take a screw driver and a hacksaw to it and 'table top' it... Assuming the sound boards don't go too far below the keyboard.
I also wish uli's gang released the poly D as a module. I really hate this small keyboard trend. I get why they do it as a compromise but for someone with an already good controller it's just redundant and takes up space.
In sample mode, it would be nice to be able to use the position (e.g. sample start), blend (e.g. loop start), morph (e.g. loop end) and morph type (e.g. loop type) knobs for *something*. There may already be plans for other functions, I am just trying to get more out of the ModWave, because I LOVE IT!
Good suggestion. Drop it to Korg.
I have to agree that Korg has been on fire. From Gadget 2 to Minilogue XD to this Modwave, Korg is battling 1000! I must add that you, my friend are battling a very close 900.98!
Every one of my last 5 or 6 synth buys have been a decision made after one of your video reviews. Did I say that’s been since last December? Let’s see: Behringer Pro One, Behringer Model D, Korg Minilogue XD, Behringer TD-3, Arturia Keystep Pro, Arturia Microfreak, Novation Circuit Tracks, Novation Circuit Rhythm, Korg NTS-1, Korg Modwave, and UNO Synth Pro. Not to mention how many tricks I’ve stashed in my “trick-bag” thanks to your “ever expanding book”. I have an attraction to Korg since my first synth in 1984 was a Korg Poly 800.
Just saying thanks for the education and putting the pro level presentation on your work. Very well done. Keep up the great work, I appreciate you.
My friends call me JC.
Oh, and I ordered Plinky, but as you well know, I’ll be waiting for that one for a while.
Thanks very much for your support and for taking the time to write!
Hi you are perfectly in the right as far as synths are concerned. On another hand the workstation machines mine does not appear very coherent on a marketing point of view. Kronos Kross Nautilus Krome I do not see the same vision strength
Did I hear correctly, 32 voice poly + bi-timbral? Great video as always, something about knowing what to expect from a loopop presentation, always consistent and will do the justice needed to understand a synth.
Thanks! And yes 32 voice bi timbral
Pretty sure this is my next synth.
Incredible.. if i got a lot of money then i would buy Waldorf synths, i dont, so this seems to do all the work and maybe more than all the other expencieve synths …again a superb rewiev from loopop :) Thanks :)
I pay a Q alongside the Korg units wavestate and modwave, all three say a lot , even with a half dozen analogs ..IF you do a few house keeping tasks. The problem is fitting in the beats, vocals, and making something you may be proud of in 20 years...check out Tangerine Dream's numbers compared to many others. It is self expression that counts. It took me years to get my gear and reviews warned me away from the bad stuff. I love a good review!
The Korg Modwave sounds great!
Let the Hydrasynth refunds begin lol.
What a good video!! ❤❤😊 I absolutely love the sound of this device!!😊❤ The boops are jus amazing 🤖🤣🤣🤣🤣😜
Haha! Whoops 😅 I didn’t mean to misspell just!, 😂
Fantastic demo, and thank you for uploading it! Love the sounds I'm hearing so far.
Great video. I would dig see a video showing examples of the generative aspects of the Modwave.
Wonderful review! As always. Just ordered this beast after watching the complete review. Thanx!
Yep, it sounds as good as I was hoping it would. Wish they were on the market a bit sooner!
The 2GB of samples really takes this to the next level for me. I love layering musically harsh wavetables with acoustic instruments like drum hits and vocal snippets.
I wish you could load your own samples.
@@aceofdub The large keyboard version of Wavestate has set precedent, not unthinkable
Kind of like the D50 did in the 80s?
@@danpreston564 Yep! One of my favorite synths!
@@milk_bath I have one here. It’s behind a sofa gathering dust, but I still have it!
Very complete test as always ! thank you !
sounds awesome, I wish they'd stop putting bad keybeds in these synths they've been churning out in this format
Literally returned the opsix within a week just for that reason. It’s hard to feel compelled by an instrument that feels like a kids toy that will break in half. Super cheap build 🙃
@@kylew706 I did the same but with a Wavestate with noisy output. And poor build as well. They cut too many corners for the asking price.
Absolutely! These are the cheapest, worst, most plasticy keyboards I've ever seen on any synth. No reviewer seems to mention it. Wouldn't stop me buying one, though... 😱
@@IanWaugh - Just maybe this is an advantage for cheap folks like me who will be hunting for the cheap damaged ones to bastardize into modules?
@@SteveMeiers Would love to see THAT video 😊
Love this sentence:"The chaos physics pad is a unique physics-based element, meaning that as opposed to a regular 2D XY-pad you can curve the 2D surface in a 3rd dimension as well as control other elements of the surface and then throw the xy-spot around that surface as if it was a ball which will in turn interact with that 3d surface as if it was rolling on top of it." ruclips.net/video/fHnkl6dSmgs/видео.html
The software looks fantastic - better than a lot of VSTs
I used analog synths, digital and VST in a few decades. VST are amazing now and hold an interest for many. But, I have to say I love a hefty knob or two instead of of a mouse. Just my way of doing things now. I use a computer as a work sheet or sample/patch editor, maybe online. Computers can do the job , but they are not intuitive for some.
When is Korg going to introduce module versions of Wavestate and Modwave? I don't want and can't fit 3 octave synths into my studio.
Please god
Or a vst
@@BeastlyAnteater Maybe I don't need your gratuitous advice.
Not to mention, the keys are pretty crappy.
I'm a hack that can barely play, and I noticed on the Opsix how weak they felt.
@@strangersun7721 lol no
some serious depth there! 22:11 that timing feature (per step editable) is excellent
Blimey, Korg is on a roll... :-O Always love your comprehensive reviews!
Thanks for the shout out at 25:22! 😃
where? when? what did I miss :) subliminal?
Wow, 55:24 really caught my attention. I didn't know the Modwave could be so harsh and grungy.
Use to have a DW8000 wishing I had more hands on adjusting. I need this
Just subscribed my dude, best Modwave demo I've seen. Thank you.
great demo, as usual. korg really needs to make modules out of all these. i have a wavestate and that keybed is meh. i'm not buying any more of this form factor. i got a kromeEX workstation so i can run all my modules from one place. maybe ask korg to let us import our own samples via these softwares. i REALLY want to load my own wavestate samples and i hope the upcoming software enables this.
They announced a 61 key keyboard version of Wavestate with aftertouch....but no word on when it will be available or if they will do the same for the OpSix and Modwave. Sadly I don’t think we will see desktop versions of any of them
Thanks for the review! Too bad Korg missed the global lfo again. With "Sync Notes" the LFO retriggers every time a key is pressed after a pause.
Great point Martin. Triggered LFOs are great for rhythmic stuff, not so much for legato/ambient.
Note that it will only retrigger if no voices are sounding. If anything is sounding, the LFO continues - regardless of whether or not a key is actually being held down. Let me know the use case for which this is insufficient, and I can add a feature request!
You deserve way more likes, especially from 10,000 views. Thanks for your vids loopop!
yes please
Fantastic demo. I can’t wait for mine to show up
as a plastic toy, it sounds great. As a professional audio device, why the hell is the body made of cheap plastic on an $80 synth?
unfortunate, I wish the body was better built as well
Korg still in the game strong , with alternatives to synthesis covering old and new .
Thank you for such an awesome review!
one thing I love to do with wavetables, is take the two wavetable positions to static spots, in order to make the resulting sound close to an acoustic instrument. I played around with this a lot on my micromonsta synth. I'm sure the modwave will have so many possibilities both with that, and with custom wavetables, which really interests me the most about it so far. I have already played on my wavestate a ton, and discover new things on it often.
close to an acoustic sound? why? And you have a Wavestate that does that better than any wavetable synth ever. Integra-7, MODX, Juno-DS, or Krome EX also all kill all wavetables at this, from among hardware synths.
@@Jason75913 i like doing that just for the experimental aspect, i.e. how much i can push the static position of single cycles. of course i do all kinds of wave sequences and moving stuff thats of course quite fun.
For some reason after doing a few of those acoustic sound things, i thought, how many more of those can I do? haha, and it became this almost fascination.
Recently Ive played with filters on analog waveforms to end up with bell like tones. Thats pretty neat too.
I dont need to do it, but yea, its a neat side thing I do to see what i can get out of the different synth engines [filters, static waveforms/oscs]
modwave shows exciting possibilities during all reviews. /sold. i love this analog flair 49:23 49:32 52:48 59:35 1:00:24
Looks like an amazing creative tool/instrument. The WaveState and PCM patches has zero interest with me....but this Modwave with full sized keys and oscillator sound design is everything I had hoped for in the WaveState. Korg is sure making some fantastic synths today.
Did you get the modwave (I'm still debating on the Hydra/ModV/Argon8)
Thing is the wavestate was never meant to be what everyone wishes it was...a wavetable synth... it's a vector synth same as Yamaha's sy35 or kawai's K4 or of course korg's wavestation...why people mistake it for a wavetable synth is beyond me.
With that said I feel a powerful trio would be the WaveS/Op6/(insert any of the afformentioned wavetable synths)🤷🏻♂️
@@BendApparatus I'm way behind in my synth technology and purchasing; just bought a new Korg Minilogue a few months ago. I bought a sampler a year ago and need analog synths to sample into it, and then create new instruments from editing and layering multi samples to play on the sampler. I have been watching all synths carefully and still looking for a synth with lots of modulation options and polyphony. But since Roland introduced a version of the JD800 in Boutique, that will be my next synth, and also the the new JX-08 will probably follow. Digital synths with all the physical control analog synths enjoy have been rare throughout the digital decades and can't pass these up. Next I will be upgrading my old digital piano with new technology. Hoping the Mod/Wav/Opsix prices will drop in the mean time.
@@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene the minilogue was a great purchase.
I'm stuck in a weird place...
I have plenty of fully analog mono synths...
And a few poly digital synths...
So technically I need a analog poly...
But instead I'm looking at another digital poly...🤦🏻♂️
Oddly enough I also have a monophonic digital as well as a monophonic wavetable synth!
I'm all over the place...😅
Editor: Roland could learn a lot from Korg regarding the editor🙀
Performance from John Malletkovich through Juicy Drive Lead from 56:56 is just too funny. Thank you. 🤣
They obviously want you to use that Kaoss Pad - but it looks like its working pretty well. I like the consistency - is KaossPad functionality set in every preset
I love a joystick and a chaos pad feels like home.
I never thought about this but a pad seems way more comfortable to me than a joystick. I hate the minilogue XD joystick for the number of times I've tried to use it on one axis and ended up bending the pitch on accident. The pad seems more easily controlled.
Great review loopop, thumb up!
"this is a wavetableee"
Great video! I learned a lot of tips 😊
I have a HydraSynth, so I wasn't expecting to be impressed by this, but wow! The sample playback, bi-timbre, and sequencing have my interest piqued!
Hah. Ironic surname considering Dan Phillips who designed and built it, had hydra in mind when he put this out to beat it. Which it does on specs without effort ofcourse.
It really does surpass hydra
@@WyattLite-n-inn yes and no. It doesn’t have MPE and you cannot reorganize wavetables. Hydrasynth played with an MPE surface is an amazing instrument. I can actually imagine Modwave and Hydrasynth together.
Hi I am hesitating, so... had you have the opportunity to compare Hydrasynth and Modwave ? Of course, the choice has to be made soundwise only because I am supposing the polyAT keyboard and ribbon features are great on the HS
stick it in a mix with wavestate, hydra and moog and stuff begins to develop. Get more sequencers I say.
Very cool so deep review. As usual. Thank you.
This looks good !!
I waited so long for this... Sob
Leaves the Iridium in the dust, easily. The price tag is an absolute no-brainer - I think they even paid R2R to release the CPU-hungry VSTi soon, so people would buy the hardware :)
I'm getting it
When I got my first hardware synth, it was a Microkorg XL... but that turned out to be kind of a dead end due to its severe lack of physical patch editing controls. So I didn't learn much from it, and it ended up gathering dust once I got sick of the presets. I would have been much better off with something like the Modwave. It seems almost bottomless, and yet is still relatively straightforward to build new sounds and soundscapes on.
I don't need one now though. I needed one 12 years ago. D'oh. But I'm glad people today will have nicer instruments than I started with.
I never understood the XL, always seemed a major downgrade of the regular MicroKORG.
@@unclemick-synths When I was a noob, I didn't know how important knobs are... so I went for something with a more powerful engine instead of something with a good UI. :(
@@ToyKeeper understandable. My mistake was overlooking synths like the Juno because they were less sophisticated than synths like the Jupiter.
@@unclemick-synths I probably would have been better off even with something as simple as a Reface CS. Or a Bass Station 2. Or a Minibrute 2. None of those existed at the time though, so perhaps an Ultranova.
Now though, I'm mostly using a Pro 3. It's fantastic. Am planning on using it for a long, long time.
@@ToyKeeper I love my Reface CS. So quick to dial-in great sounds even if just a temporary sound to let me keep working that will be replaced by a sound from a synth that's slower to program.