Now THIS was a great video on wavetable synths! Thank you so much! I got my Modwave last year and have neglected it. Getting back into it now - I've been concentrating on my Elektron Digitone and Syntakt for the last eight months - I want to combine my Modwave with them eventually - to make music.
I think the video is really good. The background is well explained and many will understand this cryptic synthesis technique better now. Perfect. Also you seem to be the first one (!), who mapped the wavetable position to an LFO, where all the fun starts with a wavetable synthesizer. I'm not sure, if the LFO's intensity marks the distance from the defined starting position to the farest scanning position. Only do you can find the coolest sweetspots, which often are found between transitions of two waveforms. Unfortunately the Envelopes do not allow looping. It's a shame, Korg didn't build in a dedicated LFO for that task. Enjoy the synth!
Nice to come across your channel for the first time, you have been hidden from me until now. Great recording quality for us to listen to this fantastic synth. Great to know, you know, what you are doing! subbed.
Yes and no. DW8000 had no "drift" through a "wavetable" at all. It had just 16 digital waves. No "morphing" through them at all. They were single cycle waves called DWGS. However, they might have been "multisampled" across the octaves, so every octave has a slight different single cycle to omit nasty overtones as may happen with normal samples. I'm not aware, if on velocity there might have been another "layer" on any "wavetable". But there was definitely no LFO applicable to sift through a lot of layers on a "wavetable" as demonstrated here. DW8000 did not use samples as the M1 did mostly, but single cycle waves, one of which was actually a SAW wave, hence it could be operated like a conventional analog synth of the time. M1's arguably best programs standing the test of time and being most flexible are the ones that use the few DWGS snippets in the array of M1 memory as base for sounds, not the longer samples that made up the Piano16. Now, this MoDWave is mixing the whole bag up. Quite nicely though. To morph through wavetables from different angles is "quite/very" different from a DW8000.
Great video and sounds! For someone like me who is in love with the sounds of vector synthesis and the glorious Korg Wavestation, is I well understood the wavetable synthesis is based on the creation of waveforms starting from cycles which, placed in an evolutionary sequence with morphing, create complex waves which evolve even though they last for a limited period of time. Correct? But can the cycles of the waveforms to be mixed (the frames) also be created starting from samples? Can we therefore start from the concept that basically wavetable synthesis can be used to create waveforms which in turn can be placed in sequence in vector/wave-sequence synthesis? I'm this case I would have the "evolution" ... of the "evolution" 🙂 If it is possible sincerely as a neophyte I find wavetable and vector/wave-sequence synthesis with its own sampling much more stimulating and potentially able to create new sounds compared to analog subtractive or virtual analog synthesis.
thank you for your video ! is it possible to control a soft synth like omnisphere with the knobs of the new KORG wavestate or MODwave, for me the wavestate’s knobs and vector joystick all send MIDI data so you can use them to control your soft synths. You can turn ‘local control’ off to stop the keys and controls from triggering wavestate’s internal sounds. some people says yes it's possible other no impossible : so, i'm lost !
As long as it outputs MIDI CC's which I'm sure it does for sequencing purposes you would be able to use them to control a softsynth using a 'learn' function or just by mapping it.
Great work on the video! I think the physics controller is probably more interesting in concept than in use. Also, I think the $800 price for a plastic synth is a bit high. Argon8 appears very capable, better build quality and $100 less. I recently picked up a Hydrasynth desktop, which I think is an incredible value for the same price.
Sales pitch to me - Best mini synth of the the year. What I heard in this demo - The exact sound my electric shaver makes when I shave my balls every morning with a little bit of chorus and reverb added. Wtf...
You researched it yes? It's a combined sample table of a multitude of different waves. (Very very short ones) the whole concept is that you can scan through the position of the sample as it plays. Think of rapidly (or slowly)scanning through different stations with the tune knob on an old FM radio. You can keep doing so or stop/start at any point in the scan. *Edit By the way the waves are not tied together from starting/end points. They are layered like pages in a book.
I liked the idea of this Synth but in reality the resolution of the table scanning is way to low resulting in a very harsh sound. A real deal breaker for me🥲
If any of Korg's recent offerings deserves a module version, this is it.
Great suggestion!
This is the third synth in the series Op6 FM, WaveState and ModWave. I don't think a module is coming.
It is.@@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene
@@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene Modules for all 3 were announced not long ago
Now THIS was a great video on wavetable synths! Thank you so much! I got my Modwave last year and have neglected it. Getting back into it now - I've been concentrating on my Elektron Digitone and Syntakt for the last eight months - I want to combine my Modwave with them eventually - to make music.
Very professional! You clearly did your homework before posting.
We'd like to think so! Thanks :)
The explanation is so clear
We'd like to think so!
I think the video is really good. The background is well explained and many will understand this cryptic synthesis technique better now. Perfect. Also you seem to be the first one (!), who mapped the wavetable position to an LFO, where all the fun starts with a wavetable synthesizer. I'm not sure, if the LFO's intensity marks the distance from the defined starting position to the farest scanning position. Only do you can find the coolest sweetspots, which often are found between transitions of two waveforms. Unfortunately the Envelopes do not allow looping.
It's a shame, Korg didn't build in a dedicated LFO for that task.
Enjoy the synth!
that was a very clearly explained video, thank you for this one man!
Thanks so much Luciano!
yes, very clear and well explained! Even someone as dumb as me understood!
In this day and age with soooooo many bedroom producers, these small korg synths should come in module versions as standard.
You never know, there might be one down the line!
@@JunoStudio 🤞
I was just listening to Atoms for Peace when I found this video. I will take it as a sign that I need this synth :)
That is the perfect sign to get this synth!
Very nice machine. Enjoyed the video!
Thanks so much!
Very nice jam!
Very informative! Thanks
I understood the concept of this synth better now.
We're so glad to hear!
Nice to come across your channel for the first time, you have been hidden from me until now. Great recording quality for us to listen to this fantastic synth. Great to know, you know, what you are doing! subbed.
Thanks so much friend!
You deserve a medal for this video! Great content man! The drums, is it all 808?
Yes and no. DW8000 had no "drift" through a "wavetable" at all. It had just 16 digital waves. No "morphing" through them at all.
They were single cycle waves called DWGS.
However, they might have been "multisampled" across the octaves, so every octave has a slight different single cycle to omit nasty overtones as may happen with normal samples.
I'm not aware, if on velocity there might have been another "layer" on any "wavetable".
But there was definitely no LFO applicable to sift through a lot of layers on a "wavetable" as demonstrated here.
DW8000 did not use samples as the M1 did mostly, but single cycle waves, one of which was actually a SAW wave, hence it could be operated like a conventional analog synth of the time.
M1's arguably best programs standing the test of time and being most flexible are the ones that use the few DWGS snippets in the array of M1 memory as base for sounds, not the longer samples that made up the Piano16.
Now, this MoDWave is mixing the whole bag up. Quite nicely though.
To morph through wavetables from different angles is "quite/very" different from a DW8000.
Cool example at start! Drums are made from Ableton?)
Yes drums are in Ableton!
Great video and sounds!
For someone like me who is in love with the sounds of vector synthesis and the glorious Korg Wavestation, is I well understood the wavetable synthesis is based on the creation of waveforms starting from cycles which, placed in an evolutionary sequence with morphing, create complex waves which evolve even though they last for a limited period of time. Correct?
But can the cycles of the waveforms to be mixed (the frames) also be created starting from samples?
Can we therefore start from the concept that basically wavetable synthesis can be used to create waveforms which in turn can be placed in sequence in vector/wave-sequence synthesis? I'm this case I would have the "evolution" ... of the "evolution" 🙂
If it is possible sincerely as a neophyte I find wavetable and vector/wave-sequence synthesis with its own sampling much more stimulating and potentially able to create new sounds compared to analog subtractive or virtual analog synthesis.
Stuff for nerds. Just get a DW8000 or the free one from Buckit. Should be on your buckit list.
will this do anything the mini freak won't?
Can you please do a jam session with the modwave in the wavestate please 🙃
Very interested to buy Modwave to start make music in such styles or breaks as you did. Where from goings beats in start of your video. Thank you.
thank you for your video ! is it possible to control a soft synth like omnisphere with the knobs of the new KORG wavestate or MODwave, for me the wavestate’s knobs and vector joystick all send MIDI data so you can use them to control your soft synths. You can turn ‘local control’ off to stop the keys and controls from triggering wavestate’s internal sounds.
some people says yes it's possible other no impossible : so, i'm lost !
Hi Yvan - we're not sure, we didn't get a chance to test Modwave with MIDI data when it was in the studio - perhaps drop a post on the Korg forums!
@@JunoStudio ok thank you !
As long as it outputs MIDI CC's which I'm sure it does for sequencing purposes you would be able to use them to control a softsynth using a 'learn' function or just by mapping it.
@@_P_M_ thank you for your reply !
Great work on the video! I think the physics controller is probably more interesting in concept than in use. Also, I think the $800 price for a plastic synth is a bit high. Argon8 appears very capable, better build quality and $100 less. I recently picked up a Hydrasynth desktop, which I think is an incredible value for the same price.
Interesting thoughts, much to mull over...
Hey are the drums coming from modwave as well?
Drums are done externally in Ableton!
Why not a Waldorf q instead?
I definitely think I made the right choice. But any snth needs, or can always use a good effects pedal.
Anyone know which pedal would match up well.
We've recommend the Erica Synths & Ninja Tune Zen Delay to push this into some new saturated territory...
zoom ms70cdr or empress zoia
Is a polyphony of 32 enough?
It should be we think! But depends on the application too...
You will be able to take a 4 note chord and 4 oscillators dual layer sound and a long release envelope and blend that chord seemlessly into another.
Sales pitch to me - Best mini synth of the the year.
What I heard in this demo - The exact sound my electric shaver makes when I shave my balls every morning with a little bit of chorus and reverb added. Wtf...
Noise maker
Sounds like a set of hair clippers 😂
This or Wavestate.....the agony of decision.
Maybe the solution is both
OK, but what's a wavetable?
You researched it yes?
It's a combined sample table of a multitude of different waves. (Very very short ones) the whole concept is that you can scan through the position of the sample as it plays. Think of rapidly (or slowly)scanning through different stations with the tune knob on an old FM radio.
You can keep doing so or stop/start at any point in the scan.
*Edit
By the way the waves are not tied together from starting/end points.
They are layered like pages in a book.
This video could be a lot better if it had its narration done with a different voice..
I liked the idea of this Synth but in reality the resolution of the table scanning is way to low resulting in a very harsh sound.
A real deal breaker for me🥲