This is at the top of all lists and you cannot afford a new one or even a used one is because of the $$$$$$ and many riders will look somewhere else for another make where they save from 1/2 to almost 3/4 on a purchase.
It will happen similar situation with the Tatra car when the Volkswagen Beetle is a knock off of a Tatra Model 97, but yet the CF-Moto V-Rod knockoff will be loved by Harley haters.
Yeah, you betcha. I can feel your juxtaposition in the love in your comment. Maybe you’re seeing through your HonYamKawSu glasses, or maybe you’re looking real hard to find a reason to do your own hatin’.
@@MrDoyle07I have a good reason to hate harleys The bikes are mechanical junk And the riders are conceited Assholes I started riding on two wheels 56 years ago Average hd rider rides 300-350 miles a year Pathetic I’ve ridden twice that in one day Every ride with a harley in the pack, we made sure to have a support truck Every time it was the harley that got dragged home broken!
I started riding on a 1942 "45" flat head when I was 14, back in 1955. I rode an 84 Iron head Sportster for 23 years. My current ride, is a 99 Softail Custom. At 83 years old, it is as comfy as my Lazy boy recliner with the pillow seat, buckhorn bars, and forward controls. The EVO engine is simplicity itself. Who needs a lot of power when you are riding the back roads listening to the drag pipes, and watching the sun reflect off the head light. It puts a smile on my face. The cadence of the 2 cylinder radial engine as it starts up a hill is magic. Maybe its just me.
I just bought a 42 WLA last year, rode it a bit and getting ready to go through it completely this winter just to be "bulletproof". You're about sixteen years older than I, grew up in the shadow of guys like you, and doing the same for another generation.
No bike is worth hating. Never owned a Harley, mostly because I could buy literally any style of any other bike, ride it for a couple years, insurance, and full riding gear, buy accessories I want and still have money left over over the cost of a Harley today.
Rice burners, maybe, but probably not one of the European brands. :-) I'm just joking about 'rice burners'; I don't hate Japanese bikes. Being a Harley owner/rider, I do agree that Harleys have gotten crazy expensive. Harley execs say that they want to bring younger riders into the Harley family, yet they insist on Harleys (bikes, parts, gear) being boutique items (with boutique prices). You can't have both.
I agree. I’ve been riding 30 years. Bought my first Harley 2 years ago after lots of sports and sport touring bikes. All these Harley guys talking shit can’t even make a u turn on their bikes or come to a stop without waddling like a duck.
@@Ronald-RUclips Well I could imagine that, to say Harley-Davidson is facing trouble right now with China, CF-Moto is working with Daimler with a knockoff of a V-Rod.
I am proud of my 77 XLH Sportster and my 75 Electa Glide, both AMF machines which I bought new back then. Other than the normal routine servicing and adjustments I've never had to put a spanner near the engines and no oil leaks. Proud to have helped HD survive in my small way. Keep the videos coming. I like all bikes, just some better than others.
How about not see the point or appreciate them? The New Sportster S is more like the "SON OF V-Rod" than Sportster from the EVO era. Not very versatile... yet. More Sports Bike than from the Sportster Family. People love them. The LiveWire... Electric anything is a turnoff to me. Very limiting. Some people love them. The new bike that I thought was SPOT ON was the PAN AMERICA. It hit BMW right where it hurt. So those coming off the Africa Twin or a Tiger and want to upgrade now have two choices and one of those choices is SUPERIOR.
Been on Harleys since 76, first was a 74 Sportster, last one was a 42 WLA, I've got three in my garage, one I built new in 95, 88 inch shovelhead, 883 05 sportster and the WLA, along with a 78 Triumph Bonnie. I've got four in my shop being rebuilt, 62, 66 and a 72 Triumph, two T100's and a T140. My favorite of all the years was a 37 WLA I had about five years late seventies, early eighties. The best part is simply riding. I've had about thirty in the last fifty years, I hope I'm still riding on my last day. I spent a couple months this past summer with my young niece, riding the Bonnie, and I'm currently building the 62 T100 for her to ride together to Sturgis next summer. It's great to introduce new riders to the sport and see them carry on the freedom of two wheels on the highway. Last month I went on a couple hundred mile ride with my grandson's church group and I was the oldest of the four of us, my grandson the youngest. Ride to live!
That would make me like it more. Decent bike I thought. Sort of dyna sized. I seem to recall the fork being raked out a little too much. I’d get one if it came up for cheap.
Harley guys hate the v rod because it's smooth, modern, liquid cooled, runs good, is reliable, handles well and has power. None of those are Harley things.
Your story allot like mine. I rode allot back in my teens and twenties didn't ride for a long time while my kids were growing up. Bought an 03 883 to get back into riding with the intentions of hammer 1275 kit after a year, which I've done. Love the hammer kit. I have 3 built sportsters in my garage now and a v-rod. Only thing that's kept me from adding a Buell is parts availability. The xb12 is different enough from sportster to cause issues in getting parts. Thank you for your content
Bro, get over yourself. Harleys, Hondas, Yamaha, BMW's or whatever are just TWO WHEELS with an Engine. Motorcycles are meant for fun. Enjoy it. Ride what you can AFFORD and don't worry about what other people ride!!
I rode Japanese bikes my whole life. Owning a Harley-Davidson was way unattainable for me. And there are, ALOT of Harley deuschbags out there. I have a old harley now, first one, but I hate being considered an elitist because of what I now drive. I refuse to buy shit from the dealership, do almost all my own work on my bike, don't buy and wear Harley-Davidson everything. Shit I also have and ride a 1981yamaha xs650, and a kawasaki vulcan. Anyways your right though, ride what you can afford, enjoy it, and just respect the next man fir being out there playing frogger with car traffic.
Vtx 1800 twice as fun as any Harley at around 3000 to 5000. Fast fun. And can cruse anywhere and way more reliable I own one cause Harley’s are way to expensive!
I ride an Iron 883. Modded it out a little bit but for me, it’s the perfect bike. Not going for killer speed and numbers, im going for reliability and fun. I get both in spades
My first Harley was 85 Sportster 1200kitted...GREAT BIKE..NOW riding a DYNA SUPERGLIDE 1450...EVEN GREATER BIKE.. about to pass it on to my Son...and stepping down to a Royal Enfield gt 650...as im getting older and looking for something LIGHTER and LESS powerful...been riding now for nearly 50years and EVERY BIKE has its JOY....SO.. Enjoy the ride as life is far too short...😊
I hear ya about getting older and getting a lighter bike. I sold my Road King and stepped up to a 883. I considered the RE but they are new and I couldn't afford a new bike. Bought the 2004 883, my 3rd Sporty
I've owned hondas , Suzuki, both dirt and street bikes .... The conclusion of this topic in my heart is ..... Be content with what you have and enjoy the ride ! But I do wish everyone could own a Harley, because of that iconic sound ,look and feel . That said - get on whatever you have and RIDE ✅👍👌
@@greggarrot8132 Yeah but I'd also never recommend anything Harley currently has as a beginner bike either. They kind of abandoned the starters. The dealership here sells Royal Enfield probably to fill that gap of cheap starter.
I love my Sportster 883 for 25 years. I have never felt the need to have anything bigger and the only bike I have that weighs 800 lb is my Euro sidecar tourist outfit.
I loved my 2000 ,883. Got a good price on it. Like new , 1150 miles. Rode it to over 50 k. Had 2 crashes and a blast. Easy to customize. Best bike I ever had.
I have had all kinds of motorcycles in my life. I own a yamaha road star and a harley road king right now. I loved them all and had lots of enjoyment from them all. Thinking about picking up a duel sport next. Would like to do a little adventure riding before I get to old. Been awhile since I have rode off road. Ride what makes you happy people. Peace✌️
I also ride a roadstar 03 and love it 21 years old and still runs as good as the day I bought it off the show room floor. Did some customization to it.
Great Video. I totally agree about the bags. When I bought my Fat Boy, back in 2007, the first thing I did was put a set of Harley's Leather Bags on! Man, I used to stuff those babies, and then some! Gotta have bags!
Interesting video! I own a Road King and a BMW K1200rs. I like most bikes. I rode Kawasakis and Yamahas last century. First HD I bought was a 2006 Nightrod with mid controls. I loved it, but I ground the pegs constantly. More aspiring newbies wanting HDs should consider an 883 since it doesn't weigh 800 lbs. Keep riding, keep videoing. 👊
Uncle was a dispatch rider in WW2, drove all kinds,never a HD. Rode till he was 88 when he passed, always said HD riders thought they were some much better. He thought he did more to save our freedom.
I'm surprised Buell wasn't mentioned! As a Buell XB12SCG owner, I get hate all the time with people saying I couldn't afford a Harley badge so bought a renamed Harley everywhere I take it
Buell's Engineering was Superior to Harley. Going to a Rotax Engine was the final straw for HD. Dealers tended to place Buells in the back corner next to the restrooms thus they did not sell. Can you imagine Harley with the M8 and Revolution Engines with Buell innovations today? HD was very dirty when they sacked Eric.
@@scottbowles9574 Buell started out as making kits for Sportsters then expanding into making a bike using the Sportster as a base in the Mid 80's. 1. Underslung exhausts Erik Buell pondered on why riders should put up with side-mounted exhausts that were non-aerodynamic, spoiled the line of the bike and made the rider hot. His answer: an exhaust mounted centrally under the bike. 2. Fuel in frame Erik’s passion for racing made him question why a race bike had to handle like a pig when the fuel level dropped. Using a bike’s aluminum beam frame as the fuel tank means the weight of the fuel remains low, so the bike handles well no matter how much fuel is onboard. 3. Mass Centralization Years before Honda spouted mass centralization as MotoGP magic, Erik Buell was building it into his bikes. It was part of a three-pronged attack to achieve handling nirvana: moving components nearer to the centre of mass, achieving the lowest unsprung weight possible and making a frame torsionally rigid. 4. Zero Torsional Load (ZTL) Braking A huge single rim-mounted disc and reverse mounted caliper that performed as good as a normal two-disc set up but with less unsprung weight. Arguments still rage on the increased gyroscopic effect. 5. Engine Oil in Swingarm Similar to fuel-in-frame concept and it increases cooling action too.
The Revolution engine in the V-Rod was awesome! The big problem with it was that it needed to rev too high to put it into a bagger - plus the Harley Geezer Glide riders would never have accepted a liquid-cooled engine. The bars could have been replaced with better ones, but it never found its sweet spot. I came close to buying a beautiful orange one back in 2014 at a bike show in FL. The Sportster 883 was always considered a 'kiddy" bike or a lady's bike, and even the Sportster 1200 was by many in the Geezer Glide crowd (not me tho). I am a Geezer Glide rider BTW... I ride a 2012 FLHXSE3 CVO SG that I bought new in Aug 2011 when it first came out. My bike was the first "Hot Citrus/Antique Gunstock" FLHXSE3 to be delivered in my state, for what that's worth. The Sturgis came out in 1980, and it had a Shovelhead engine, not an Evolution. The Evo engine didn't come out until 1984, and the Sturgis was only produced from 1980 to 1982. It was the first Harley fitted with a belt drive, which made it quieter and smoother than a chain drive. It was a truly revolutionary Harley in its day, and I really wanted one but never bought one. The AMF Harley era produced some of the WORST Harleys ever, and it nearly killed the MoCo. Only the employee buyout and the Evolution engine saved Harley. Baggers are what they are. They've always been my favorite Harleys. They are very comfortable on long rides, and have all the amenities you could ever want. I have ridden Softails, but the riding position isn't for me... even with a backrest, my lower back just can't take that laid-back riding position for very long. I think the Heritage Softail Classic is arguably the best-looking Harley, along with the Road King. There's just something about a big windshield up front instead of a fairing that speaks "motorcycle" to me.
I run an ‘ 03 Shadow Spirit 750. Chopped and hardtailed. It’s my first bike and I built it from stock. My wife is always at me to buy a Harley. As she says “a real bike” lol. My shadow puts a smile on my face every time I throw my leg over the seat. Currently looking into buying a second bike. Wife will be disappointed as I’ve got my heart set on a brand new KLR 650. Adventure riding is calling.
Fact. Nobody has ever said they hate Harley’s except for Harley riders. Nobody has said sportster are girls bikes Except for Harley riders. Seems that a lot of Harley riders are very insecure.
Cycle World Magazine 1968.."The 883 Sportster will grow hair on your chest, then it'll part it down the middle" Nothing has changed except they just got better
Was working at Fletcher's H-D when the Sturgis came out. Owner wouldn't let me buy a WG. I asked him why,"Because if anyone can break one you can." Loved the rear belt, didn't care much for the front belt. Shucked two until I figured out to vent the primary cover. The MOCO never did figure it out.
Good video to watch at 4am, with mild insomnia. I have a 03 wide glide, with the twin cam 88,@ 1450cc. Not the newest or fastest, but for me it's all that. My speed days are over,I just like to ride the back roads, look like a troublemaker, warrented lol, and not get killed on the road. Newer engines= more horsepower &speed. Still not in my budget. I paid $3800, for mine, and that was a good entry level price that made it a reality to own a bike I thought I'd never afford. Anyways, good video,nice gun collection, your probably a good American. So am I. Have a good day bro.
I ride a Harley… but I’m about sick of the company. My dad rode Harleys too. But that soon might change. They turned their backs on the blue collar customers ( actual bikers) …who actually supported them. They started catering to white collar yuppies. Did they really have to get a Hollywood star to push their brand? Why not actual people who keep this country going? They also are “woke” now. I’m also sick of the higher prices for less of a bike. You can buy another brand for less money and get more. They are living off of their name and screwing over customers. Definitely looking into other brands now. It’s kind of sad that some people let HD screw them over and treat them like crap… but these people support HD no matter what. Pretty pathetic.
As seen in my picture this was my favorite Harley a 2005 V Rod with Road Glide Faring and Bags. Rode it from Florida to Sturgis and back in 2010. It was a great trip. My last motorcycle was a 2004 Honda VTX 1300C with a sidecar. Loved it too but my age got the best of me.
I think you're off base on the VRod. Harley haters actually like the bike. It's everything that Harley has never been, up to that point. Fast, high tech, great handling, high revving and liquid cooled. The ones that hated the VRod the most, were the Harley purists.
@@caseymckeeborrego Yeah, the Max was a rocket ship...but to be fair, it did it with twice the cylinders and another 550cc (Gen2)...and didn't take the curves nearly as well. The VRod rocked for a V-Twin.
Ride a Harley,but have had and enjoyed number of machines and makes.99 Zrx 1100 my favorite.The "Look at Me" heir alot of Harley riders have is at times over the Top. Kinda like the Rich kid in School with the Jordans poking fun at your Pro Keds. Just Ride and enjoy,and stay safe while doing it.
I have a 2009 V Rod which I fixed up with fairing and some other full dress mods and a lot of chrome. It has a feel out on the highway and it’s very comfortable and not a dimes worth of problems. I like it. Harley purists didn’t like water cooled bikes, but they don’t try anything new.
I ride an 09 Buell XB12XP and am a Harley hater because of what they did to Buell. I see the value in thier machines but i just can't get over thier business model.
25:03 As someone who’s been riding motorcycles for over four decades, I’m 53 years old. It’s not about going fast. Although I currently ride a 2023 Yamaha MT 10 which is a hyper naked machine is still not about going fast. It’s about what you like and just enjoying the performance of a particular machine. I’ve never owned but I have ridden many Harley Davidson‘s And one of my favorites is another hated by the Harley loyalists. The fat boy and the fat boy-lo are two of my favorite Harleys to ride. I absolutely love riding those machines. Also riding my friends heritage softail that has been built to be a total rocket. It’s just a different feeling all together. There’s nothing like the torque of a big ass Harley and that’s why I like riding Harleys. At the same time I love my high revving Crossplain crank in-line four that makes 170 hp. It’s all fun and that’s what I love and have always loved about riding motorcycles. When I get on my 170 hp Yamaha I ride that machine for a certain vibe if you will and when I get on the fat boy low, I’m looking for a certain vibe. They both do their intended purpose very well and are both very different. That’s what I love about riding motorcycles. By the way, I’m 5 foot 7 and only weigh 150 pounds so riding these big powerful machines no matter what they are, has always been a hell of a thrill for me.
A Sportster is a Sportster is a Sportster... (Chinese voice - ALL LOOK SAME!) Unless it is a Roadster then you have a totally different animal. (Just kidding. Love my Roadster.)
Hi Hegshot Rides, another great episode 🔥Hope you had a great July 4th, lots of Harley Haters yesterday, when I was cruising on my RoadGlide..mostly cars…3 lanes and they decided to tailgate me, oh well. Lastly, I can also say from a rider that started riding in 1988 on a Yamaha YSR 50, to a 92 CBR, 02 Gixxer,98 R1, 07 Hayabusa, 2012 Sportster, 2016 Street Glide and now my 2020 RoadGlide, the best and only motorcycle I will saddle up❤sadly most riders will never know, the way a Harley Davidson RoadGlide makes you feel..Ride Hard💪🏼, Be Blessed 🙏🏽, Aloha, Kenneth 🤙🏽
My first Harley was an Ironhead Sportster. I have a 1400 Suzuki Intruder, I picked up an Ultra Classic on the way, then picked up a "72" 1200 Sportster in 2016. A Friend had a 2010 883 Iron he wanted to get rid of. To me, it is kind of like the V-Rod seating position. Just to hop around town, the 883 is my favorite right now except for the fatter front tire.
I couldn’t agree more on the iron 883. This bike is awesome for new riders even I wasn’t a new writer and I bought this bike and rode it across the country. I wasn’t super comfortable but didn’t have a single problem on the way out or on the way back. There’s definitely something to be said for that and also an entry into the Harley world.
When I first started riding 35 years ago, I started with an HD. I rode for about 5 years thinking only wimps rode other brands. Then a buddy let me ride his BMW. Wow! Years later, I’ve switched exclusively to BMW, Ducati, Triumph. However, anything anybody rides with 2wheels is awesome including HDs
When I went to get my first Harley, back in mid 2012, I was looking at the 883 Iron. Ended up buying the last 2011 Nightster they had in the showroom. Got it for the same price as the 2012 883 Iron. I still love the Evo Sportster. Now I am chopping a 1991 Sportster 883 Deluxe that was already punched out to 1200. I also have a 1997 Yamaha Vmax.
My first harley was a v-rod muscle & I love this bike, great setup love the forward controls. People say you can't turn this bike....I can, no problems plus I have a 260 rear. I've ridden a lot of harleys & I can say it's the only harley I'll ever ride.
The Night Rod Special is one of the most gorgeous muscle bikes ever designed. Don't care if it couldn't turn for crap. Beautiful engine, tons of power, and aesthetically like no other bike on the market at the time.
I considered Indian motorcycles, but after the 5 Harley-Davidsons that I’ve had, my most recent the 2022 Street Bob 114. I have to admit, coming off of a 2013 ElectraGlide it was a drastic change in comfort, but made up for In agility and power. I haven’t owned a four wheeler in quite a while, sometimes wishing to have a heater in the cooler months, or an air conditioner in these Texas summers, but given the choice to ride my scooter or a four wheeler,,, I will always lean towards the scooter. Going on 73 years old, this 5th Harley is just keeping me busy until I can come up with the funds to return to a touring scooter, # 6 !!!!
AMF and private equity have everything in common. Planned obsolescence is what it's all about.. Looks rock! Reliability beyond the warranty isn't a consideration.
All bikes have something. Maybe you like it maybe not, but for someone, it’s everything. Like music or food, not my taste but I can’t argue that some love it.
...I've got a 1946 Knucklehead, a beater but 93" S&S Sidewinder inside. It always gets plenty of attention everywhere I go. Many people haven't ever seen a Knucklehead...except in pictures or videos My 'other' Harley is an old 1972 sporty with complete SPUTHE 80 cubic inch XR type engine, all aluminum, bike weighs 395 pounds, and as the late Alan Sputhe said...at least 100 horsepower.... The 'Sporty' is pretty much exact copy of the cover bike on august 1980 cycle world....so yeah, it's kind of old, but really gets with it when you open the throttle....by the time you get the throttle open, it's time to shift... I've never raced the 'sporty' on a track....but easily pegs the speedo at 140 MPH....60+ in first gear....
I've owned many different brands and types of bikes over the years. All used and bargain basement priced. My first big twin harley was a 1978 flh shriner. The only original parts are the tanks, frame, engine, and transmission. It's been through many mods over the years. ( and I will keep it until my last breath of life) My other two bikes are Harley-Davidsons, 1991 Springer Softtail, and a 1992 Electra Glide Ultra Classic. I like bikes that can be maintained with basic hand tools 🔧 and you don't need a computer degree to figure out what is wrong with it. The EVOS are extremely reliable, and even my AMF shovelhead is very reliable. I'm not into big hp and going fast anymore, I just enjoy getting out and enjoying back country roads and enjoying life. (61 years old) Like a good woman, take care of them and respect them, and they won't let you down. Ignore them and don't give them the attention they need, and you'll learn the meaning of (hell hath no fury like a woman scorned) hahaha Seriously though, I have an appreciation for most of my motorcycles, especially classic and antique bikes from every part of the world.
4:16 one of my brothers first bike was a 2019 iron 883, he paid about 8400 or 8500 for it came with a passenger pillion and back rest, his wife hated getting on the back of that bike she didnt feel safe and he did look big on it but he got it to learn to ride and get more comfortable after he got his endorsement. After 6 months he traded in the 19 iron for a 23 Street Glide about 2 weeks after I traded in my 09 softail for a 24 Street Glide. I think the main reason that many Harley riders call the iron 883 a girls bike is because of its small size, I test rode my brothers iron that i mentioned above and found it to be small and uncomfortable I'm 6'3 the bike had mid controls and the seating position was more aggressive than i was used to. My wife had sat on one in the showroom a few weeks ago because shes deciding whether she wants to ride or stay on the back of my bike and it was perfect size for her being 5'8 she felt comfortable on the bike plus its light weight and easily maneuverable, she also looked at a street 500 and a Sportster S. Hell even my softail is sometimes called a girls bike for the same reason as the iron, its small size. 11:25 I can definitely attest to that, I get so much flack for liking and buying the 24 Street Glide by people that have an 06-14 Street Glide mainly.
I liked the show where owners bet their bikes at the drag strip. Brand new V Rod awarded to a guy with a 1981 Suzuki GS1100. A standard do it all motorcycle introduced in 1980 as i recall but quicker and faster than a V Rod and with normal ergonomics.
When I was young I liked the little rice rockets and we made fun of Harley's but as I got older I moved to the cruiser style I want to enjoy the ride and fast is ok at times but going slow and taking it easy is where I enjoy myself the most
I've had plenty of people talk shit about Harley, but no one ever said that they hate Harleys. I don't hate any bikes. However, I do get a chuckle when I see someone on a metric with straight pipes.
I don't like their crankshafts come pressed together in 3 pieces. The connecting rod bearings are actual needle bearings . Harley does a nice job on their chrome and paint.. I have a 2020 Fury, with cobra exhaust.
For years Harleys came from the factory with what were essentially straight pipes. Yes they had something on the pipes that looked like mufflers, but they clearly weren't anywhere near functional. Those guys who put straight pipes on metric cruisers just wanted bikes that both looked like and sounded like Harleys.
As a non harley owner I found this video helpful as regards knowing what I'm looking at. It's funny how the harley I have always liked the look of is the one some other harley riders call a girls bike 😆. I guess it depends a lot on what kind of journeys you go on and how important comfort is. Personally I'd love to own a harley iron 883 they look like such a fantastic lump of a machine, but I will just have to make do with my nippy little royal enfield for the time being. Happy riding folks.
Harley's about to move production to Thailand for American bikes. Side note the sportster is one of my favorite Harley's because of what you can do to them. Plus I love the evolution motor. I've had them all Harley, Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, and now an Indian. They have all been fun. I think the basic-ness of my 1200 sportster I enjoyed the most. And miss it the most, now they got rid of it in their current line up so may buy a used one to keep in the line up.
I worked at a Harley dealership. The most hated Harley Davidson was the 1977 XLCR. I hated it too. To be honest, I hate all the newer Harleys since 1987. After that, they all blow.
The pre-AMF Harley Davidson’s actually had the quality control problem. As an example dealers would get brand new motorcycles that were lacking things like…pistons. AMF ensured quality control, but used cheaper parts, such as the carburetor, etc. I had a 79 XLS sportster and the sucker was bulletproof. So you’re right, AMF did save Harley, but it was Harley that had the quality control problem.
I enjoy all motorcycles and am glad that there are many choices and options. As far as Harley’s go, I have owned six, and currently own a near classic Electra Glide which I have owned since 2002 and will never sell. I am also rebuilding a 2005 Road King. In addition, I own and mostly ride a Honda Goldwing GL-1800. I will say that no manufacturer can match the quality and color choices of Harley paints. However, it sadly seems like Harley is pricing themselves out of the market and I can’t justify buying a new one ever again.
Willie G designed the FX in 71. In 1980 the FXB Sturgis was out to the market, it was just an FX with a belt primary and belt fianl drive. It's a sought-after bike, but really, what saved HD was the buyback in 81. The FXR was introduced in 82. The R indicated the rubbermount motor. The Sturgis only ran a few years and was replaced by the FXSB in 1983.
It’s interesting that bikes that people like overseas and you often see them customised and appreciated like the V-Rod and street models weren’t popular in North America but massively popular in Australia, Europe, Asia and even the Middle East where baggers aren’t as popular because people choose different types of bikes for long distance riding
I got a 2008 Harley sportster 883 low edition for 4,200 total, it had 14k miles, has the classic Harley logo on the tank, I’ve put over 2k miles on it in 3-4 months, I ride when I want, not when the weather permits. This is my 7th bike, 4 different brands, thousands of miles, all bike is a bike, it’s what you make it that matters to you, nobody else
Would have a V rod but the tank range is the reason I didn't keep a sportster 883. Chain drive, 4 speed, solid motor mount was not that small 40 years ago.
Started on a benali mini bike,in 68. 5th gradebuddys dad was a flat trac racer,honda, cushman guzzi hodaka Harley the wind feels the same,it how yet ass feel end of 8 hrs
I love my Harley and many other bikes, I keep my comments to my self about bikes that don't suit me. But it's not uncommon to hear non harley riders making comments about harley prices, low hp, slow, grampa bike, harley tax, weight, etc. I just tell them to move on. I choose not to point out their excessive plastic.
I enjoy riding motorcycles and have ridden just about everything you can imagine including all the Japanese bikes, Harley's, Triumphs, BMW's, Ducati's, KTM's, sport bikes, cruisers, touring bikes, dirt bikes, adventure bikes, even scooters. And I've owned many different brands and types of motorcycles over the decades. Yet I have never bought a piece of clothing with the brand name of the motorcycle I rode. I ride because it's fun and could care less what anyone thinks about what I ride.
I'm not a hater of any particular bike. No brand loyalty or disloyalty for me!! I wave at all two-wheelers and most three-wheelers, too! I also admire the engineering and styling of nearly every model out there. Motorcycles are fascinating pieces of mechanical tech!!! And their riders who personalize them make them even more interesting! Harley just hasn't made a bike that does what I want right out of the box. I'm more of a sporting-oriented-almost-touring rider these days. For me, the best niche has been the sport-touring genre of motorcycles - Honda ST1300, Yamaha FJR1300, and the like. They handle great, have great performance, rideability and reliability, look good, are moderately comfortable, and I can drone 250 miles in a sitting without too much discomfort and still have fun in the twisties 😎😎 Sure!! You can customize the CRAP out of a Harley! The aftermarket and dealer support for post-purchase stuff is phenomenal!! And customizing is half the fun of owning one! But I'm not into spending $30,000+ for a motorcycle that I'm not satisfied with the performance of, on which I'd then want to spend another $5,000 to make it handle decently, another $5k to get it to run the way I want it to, and then another $5K in ergonomics and 'farkles', then another $5k in 'beauty accessories'. Personally, I'm at the point of moving to a touring rig. But HD, as good as they have become, is still behind the curve. My personal requirements are water-cooling, strong frame and suspension, outstanding brakes, and excellent ergonomics. The bike must perform solidly in a straight-line or when the road curves. The tech is also important to me - Apple CarPlay or Android Auto is a must. I also want hard bags that are both beautiful and functional, and a trunk (I've gotten spoiled having one on my ST!!). I'm thinking my next bike is either an Indian Pursuit or Honda GoldWing. I'm leaning very heavily toward the Indian, though!! That's one BEAUTIFUL bike!! At the end of the day, we all choose what we ride based on our own particular desires. I don't care if you ride a BMW, Honda, Harley, Ural, Moto Guzzi, or, whatever!! We are all family when on the road!! What I DO care about is being a decent human being. There are riders of ALL makes and models that are great people!! And there are also those who are complete a-holes. I personally prefer the great people that are out there enjoying life and all the world has to offer - ON MOTORCYCLES!
Hate the most about Harleys is the price.
This is at the top of all lists and you cannot afford a new one or even a used one is because of the $$$$$$ and many riders will look somewhere else for another make where they save from 1/2 to almost 3/4 on a purchase.
And the fact that Harleys are SLLLLOOOWWWWW, loud, heavy, ugly AF and you pretty much look like a tool riding them.
It will happen similar situation with the Tatra car when the Volkswagen Beetle is a knock off of a Tatra Model 97, but yet the CF-Moto V-Rod knockoff will be loved by Harley haters.
Parts prices in the UK. The parts are made everywhere from Japan for the discs to Taiwan for the chrome plating that is not very good.
@@theodavies8754 Even for parts that are made in China.
Been riding since 1974. As a die-hard biker, i really don't give a shit what you ride. You do you. Ride safe, y'all!
Damn good point, well stated. Peace, and safe riding to you always.
That's the most un Harley statement ! 😊
We'll said
There is no wrong bike, just the wrong one for you. Ride what puts a smile on your face 😊
True biker
I don’t hate any bike. I love them all.
Don’t think folks hate the bikes. It’s the culture/attitude of the owners/followers that rubs people the wrong way.
It's like Rick & Morty: I love the show but the fans... they're the worst.
Bingo
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Yeah, you betcha. I can feel your juxtaposition in the love in your comment. Maybe you’re seeing through your HonYamKawSu glasses, or maybe you’re looking real hard to find a reason to do your own hatin’.
@@MrDoyle07I have a good reason to hate harleys
The bikes are mechanical junk
And the riders are conceited Assholes
I started riding on two wheels 56 years ago
Average hd rider rides 300-350 miles a year
Pathetic
I’ve ridden twice that in one day
Every ride with a harley in the pack, we made sure to have a support truck
Every time it was the harley that got dragged home broken!
I started riding on a 1942 "45" flat head when I was 14, back in 1955. I rode an 84 Iron head Sportster for 23 years. My current ride, is a 99 Softail Custom. At 83 years old, it is as comfy as my Lazy boy recliner with the pillow seat, buckhorn bars, and forward controls. The EVO engine is simplicity itself. Who needs a lot of power when you are riding the back roads listening to the drag pipes, and watching the sun reflect off the head light. It puts a smile on my face. The cadence of the 2 cylinder radial engine as it starts up a hill is magic. Maybe its just me.
I just bought a 42 WLA last year, rode it a bit and getting ready to go through it completely this winter just to be "bulletproof". You're about sixteen years older than I, grew up in the shadow of guys like you, and doing the same for another generation.
@@JohnMcClain-p9t That is great John. I wish I had kept mine. They are really great machines.
No bike is worth hating. Never owned a Harley, mostly because I could buy literally any style of any other bike, ride it for a couple years, insurance, and full riding gear, buy accessories I want and still have money left over over the cost of a Harley today.
what about the ruccus lol?
Rice burners, maybe, but probably not one of the European brands. :-) I'm just joking about 'rice burners'; I don't hate Japanese bikes. Being a Harley owner/rider, I do agree that Harleys have gotten crazy expensive. Harley execs say that they want to bring younger riders into the Harley family, yet they insist on Harleys (bikes, parts, gear) being boutique items (with boutique prices). You can't have both.
@@velikijoxotnik And ride like a hay rack ..
Fully agree I been riding since the 80s ride what you want. I will always respect you no matter what you ride just ride and ride safe.
I ride a Harley and even I can't stand the snobby Harley attitude that a lot of owners have.
I agree. I’ve been riding 30 years. Bought my first Harley 2 years ago after lots of sports and sport touring bikes. All these Harley guys talking shit can’t even make a u turn on their bikes or come to a stop without waddling like a duck.
Understood. Completely.
Amen to that bro!
We had a saying, "harley riders are so stuck up they won't even wave at each other."
Absolutely
Two wheels and a motor, I don’t care what it is. Vespa, Honda, Husky, Zundap, Harley, Guzzi.
Don’t matter get on it and ride!
Would you ride a Chinese knockoff of a Harley-Davidson?
@@Embargoman wish I could show you a picture of my Chinese copy of Honda 100cc -Pagsta- Captain America Chopper.
@@Ronald-RUclips Well I could imagine that, to say Harley-Davidson is facing trouble right now with China, CF-Moto is working with Daimler with a knockoff of a V-Rod.
@@williamforbes5826 plus I used to have a Jawa CZ 250.
@@williamforbes5826 sounds good to me.
I am proud of my 77 XLH Sportster and my 75 Electa Glide, both AMF machines which I bought new back then. Other than the normal routine servicing and adjustments I've never had to put a spanner near the engines and no oil leaks. Proud to have helped HD survive in my small way. Keep the videos coming. I like all bikes, just some better than others.
Who the hell has enough time on energy to hate an inanimate object?..
Unfortunately Chief it’s real and definitely ridiculous.
Same with a lot of truckers, I am a tanker driver and see and hear all day people belittling others because the truck they drive.
@@frankcastle1183 if you have gratitude for what you have, belittling others seems a bit petty, IMHO?
@@frankcastle1183If that tanker isn't HazMat, I look down on you.😂
How about not see the point or appreciate them? The New Sportster S is more like the "SON OF V-Rod" than Sportster from the EVO era. Not very versatile... yet. More Sports Bike than from the Sportster Family. People love them. The LiveWire... Electric anything is a turnoff to me. Very limiting. Some people love them. The new bike that I thought was SPOT ON was the PAN AMERICA. It hit BMW right where it hurt. So those coming off the Africa Twin or a Tiger and want to upgrade now have two choices and one of those choices is SUPERIOR.
Been on Harleys since 76, first was a 74 Sportster, last one was a 42 WLA, I've got three in my garage, one I built new in 95, 88 inch shovelhead, 883 05 sportster and the WLA, along with a 78 Triumph Bonnie. I've got four in my shop being rebuilt, 62, 66 and a 72 Triumph, two T100's and a T140. My favorite of all the years was a 37 WLA I had about five years late seventies, early eighties. The best part is simply riding. I've had about thirty in the last fifty years, I hope I'm still riding on my last day. I spent a couple months this past summer with my young niece, riding the Bonnie, and I'm currently building the 62 T100 for her to ride together to Sturgis next summer. It's great to introduce new riders to the sport and see them carry on the freedom of two wheels on the highway. Last month I went on a couple hundred mile ride with my grandson's church group and I was the oldest of the four of us, my grandson the youngest. Ride to live!
It's all to complicated now, it was easy when you had a Sporster, a Superglide and an Electra Glide, those were the days !
V-Rod was one of their greatest motorcycles and yep Harley Riders never accepted it as part of their family
That would make me like it more. Decent bike I thought. Sort of dyna sized. I seem to recall the fork being raked out a little too much. I’d get one if it came up for cheap.
I rode my father in laws V-Rod. Very good feel. One of the most balanced bikes I have ridden.
Harley guys hate the v rod because it's smooth, modern, liquid cooled, runs good, is reliable, handles well and has power. None of those are Harley things.
Only old guys like vrods liken it to the XR1000 10 horsepower more than a standard Sportster😊
True.
Your story allot like mine. I rode allot back in my teens and twenties didn't ride for a long time while my kids were growing up. Bought an 03 883 to get back into riding with the intentions of hammer 1275 kit after a year, which I've done. Love the hammer kit. I have 3 built sportsters in my garage now and a v-rod. Only thing that's kept me from adding a Buell is parts availability. The xb12 is different enough from sportster to cause issues in getting parts. Thank you for your content
Bro, get over yourself. Harleys, Hondas, Yamaha, BMW's or whatever are just TWO WHEELS with an Engine. Motorcycles are meant for fun. Enjoy it. Ride what you can AFFORD and don't worry about what other people ride!!
He didn't hate on anything.
There are real harley snobs out there that die on these hills.
Last year he was dead set on getting the Indian Elite. He is a fan boi.
What's more important, what I ride, or what YOU ride? That question will shut up a few of the morons.
I rode Japanese bikes my whole life. Owning a Harley-Davidson was way unattainable for me. And there are, ALOT of Harley deuschbags out there. I have a old harley now, first one, but I hate being considered an elitist because of what I now drive. I refuse to buy shit from the dealership, do almost all my own work on my bike, don't buy and wear Harley-Davidson everything. Shit I also have and ride a 1981yamaha xs650, and a kawasaki vulcan. Anyways your right though, ride what you can afford, enjoy it, and just respect the next man fir being out there playing frogger with car traffic.
Vtx 1800 twice as fun as any Harley at around 3000 to 5000. Fast fun. And can cruse anywhere and way more reliable I own one cause Harley’s are way to expensive!
I love riding my 2005 Honda Shadow Spirit 750. It's a great bike
My lawn mower is also from Honda
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@@peterposto8984 Yes I have a nice Honda lawn mower also but at least my bike didn't go woke
@@peterposto8984 In the past Harley made 2 strokes .
I ride an Iron 883. Modded it out a little bit but for me, it’s the perfect bike. Not going for killer speed and numbers, im going for reliability and fun. I get both in spades
I bought a 883 as well and put a 1250 kit on it and loved the way it rode after that .
My first Harley was 85 Sportster 1200kitted...GREAT BIKE..NOW riding a DYNA SUPERGLIDE 1450...EVEN GREATER BIKE.. about to pass it on to my Son...and stepping down to a Royal Enfield gt 650...as im getting older and looking for something LIGHTER and LESS powerful...been riding now for nearly 50years and EVERY BIKE has its JOY....SO.. Enjoy the ride as life is far too short...😊
I hear ya about getting older and getting a lighter bike. I sold my Road King and stepped up to a 883. I considered the RE but they are new and I couldn't afford a new bike. Bought the 2004 883, my 3rd Sporty
I've owned hondas , Suzuki, both dirt and street bikes .... The conclusion of this topic in my heart is ..... Be content with what you have and enjoy the ride ! But I do wish everyone could own a Harley, because of that iconic sound ,look and feel . That said - get on whatever you have and RIDE ✅👍👌
I do not ride to please others nor make others happy I ride because I enjoy riding, could care less what you think/feel about my choice.
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So what do you ride?
@@thollingsworth4910 1300 VTX, 1600 Roadstar silverado, had an American Ironhorse a year ago.
Right on!
I always think of Randy Savage. Hey Brother! And of course South Park just nailed it😂🤣
Never understood the hate on the 883. It's pretty much the springboard to Harley entry. A truly iconic bike that is infinitely moddable.
To be honest the 883 is what you buy your girlfriend or wife that wants to ride her own bike
@@greggarrot8132 Yeah but I'd also never recommend anything Harley currently has as a beginner bike either. They kind of abandoned the starters. The dealership here sells Royal Enfield probably to fill that gap of cheap starter.
I love my Sportster 883 for 25 years. I have never felt the need to have anything bigger and the only bike I have that weighs 800 lb is my Euro sidecar tourist outfit.
@@greggarrot8132 Why? I would never put anybody I loved on a 550lb bike to learn on. Maybe as a second bike.
I loved my 2000 ,883. Got a good price on it. Like new , 1150 miles. Rode it to over 50 k. Had 2 crashes and a blast. Easy to customize. Best bike I ever had.
I have had all kinds of motorcycles in my life. I own a yamaha road star and a harley road king right now. I loved them all and had lots of enjoyment from them all. Thinking about picking up a duel sport next. Would like to do a little adventure riding before I get to old. Been awhile since I have rode off road. Ride what makes you happy people. Peace✌️
I also ride a roadstar 03 and love it 21 years old and still runs as good as the day I bought it off the show room floor. Did some customization to it.
I have a roadstar Yamaha 2007 ❤
Great Video. I totally agree about the bags. When I bought my Fat Boy, back in 2007, the first thing I did was put a set of Harley's Leather Bags on! Man, I used to stuff those babies, and then some! Gotta have bags!
Interesting video! I own a Road King and a BMW K1200rs. I like most bikes. I rode Kawasakis and Yamahas last century. First HD I bought was a 2006 Nightrod with mid controls. I loved it, but I ground the pegs constantly. More aspiring newbies wanting HDs should consider an 883 since it doesn't weigh 800 lbs. Keep riding, keep videoing. 👊
Thanks brother
Uncle was a dispatch rider in WW2, drove all kinds,never a HD. Rode till he was 88 when he passed, always said HD riders thought they were some much better. He thought he did more to save our freedom.
I'm surprised Buell wasn't mentioned! As a Buell XB12SCG owner, I get hate all the time with people saying I couldn't afford a Harley badge so bought a renamed Harley everywhere I take it
Buell's Engineering was Superior to Harley. Going to a Rotax Engine was the final straw for HD. Dealers tended to place Buells in the back corner next to the restrooms thus they did not sell. Can you imagine Harley with the M8 and Revolution Engines with Buell innovations today? HD was very dirty when they sacked Eric.
@@exexpat11that your opinion
Never heard that before.
@@scottbowles9574 Buell started out as making kits for Sportsters then expanding into making a bike using the Sportster as a base in the Mid 80's.
1. Underslung exhausts
Erik Buell pondered on why riders should put up with side-mounted exhausts that were non-aerodynamic, spoiled the line of the bike and made the rider hot. His answer: an exhaust mounted centrally under the bike.
2. Fuel in frame
Erik’s passion for racing made him question why a race bike had to handle like a pig when the fuel level dropped. Using a bike’s aluminum beam frame as the fuel tank means the weight of the fuel remains low, so the bike handles well no matter how much fuel is onboard.
3. Mass Centralization
Years before Honda spouted mass centralization as MotoGP magic, Erik Buell was building it into his bikes. It was part of a three-pronged attack to achieve handling nirvana: moving components nearer to the centre of mass, achieving the lowest unsprung weight possible and making a frame torsionally rigid.
4. Zero Torsional Load (ZTL) Braking
A huge single rim-mounted disc and reverse mounted caliper that performed as good as a normal two-disc set up but with less unsprung weight. Arguments still rage on the increased gyroscopic effect.
5. Engine Oil in Swingarm
Similar to fuel-in-frame concept and it increases cooling action too.
100% correct
I owners two Vrods and they rocked absolutely loved it! Haha Owned a 883 Iron it was cool, the same time I owned the VRods😎
The Revolution engine in the V-Rod was awesome! The big problem with it was that it needed to rev too high to put it into a bagger - plus the Harley Geezer Glide riders would never have accepted a liquid-cooled engine. The bars could have been replaced with better ones, but it never found its sweet spot. I came close to buying a beautiful orange one back in 2014 at a bike show in FL.
The Sportster 883 was always considered a 'kiddy" bike or a lady's bike, and even the Sportster 1200 was by many in the Geezer Glide crowd (not me tho). I am a Geezer Glide rider BTW... I ride a 2012 FLHXSE3 CVO SG that I bought new in Aug 2011 when it first came out. My bike was the first "Hot Citrus/Antique Gunstock" FLHXSE3 to be delivered in my state, for what that's worth.
The Sturgis came out in 1980, and it had a Shovelhead engine, not an Evolution. The Evo engine didn't come out until 1984, and the Sturgis was only produced from 1980 to 1982. It was the first Harley fitted with a belt drive, which made it quieter and smoother than a chain drive. It was a truly revolutionary Harley in its day, and I really wanted one but never bought one.
The AMF Harley era produced some of the WORST Harleys ever, and it nearly killed the MoCo. Only the employee buyout and the Evolution engine saved Harley.
Baggers are what they are. They've always been my favorite Harleys. They are very comfortable on long rides, and have all the amenities you could ever want. I have ridden Softails, but the riding position isn't for me... even with a backrest, my lower back just can't take that laid-back riding position for very long. I think the Heritage Softail Classic is arguably the best-looking Harley, along with the Road King. There's just something about a big windshield up front instead of a fairing that speaks "motorcycle" to me.
I run an ‘ 03 Shadow Spirit 750. Chopped and hardtailed. It’s my first bike and I built it from stock. My wife is always at me to buy a Harley. As she says “a real bike” lol. My shadow puts a smile on my face every time I throw my leg over the seat. Currently looking into buying a second bike. Wife will be disappointed as I’ve got my heart set on a brand new KLR 650. Adventure riding is calling.
Fact.
Nobody has ever said they hate Harley’s except for Harley riders. Nobody has said sportster are girls bikes Except for Harley riders. Seems that a lot of Harley riders are very insecure.
Yeah its like firebird owners- they eat each other for lunch. Fukkit sticking to Triumph Bonnies
Good point
Cycle World Magazine 1968.."The 883 Sportster will grow hair on your chest, then it'll part it down the middle" Nothing has changed except they just got better
The Sturgis first came out with an 80 cubic inch Shovelhead. I bought one brand new in CA and rode it to MD.
Was working at Fletcher's H-D when the Sturgis came out. Owner wouldn't let me buy a WG.
I asked him why,"Because if anyone can break one you can."
Loved the rear belt, didn't care much for the front belt. Shucked two until I figured out to vent the primary cover. The MOCO never did figure it out.
I was wondering if anyone else caught that
Good video to watch at 4am, with mild insomnia. I have a 03 wide glide, with the twin cam 88,@ 1450cc. Not the newest or fastest, but for me it's all that. My speed days are over,I just like to ride the back roads, look like a troublemaker, warrented lol, and not get killed on the road. Newer engines= more horsepower &speed. Still not in my budget. I paid $3800, for mine, and that was a good entry level price that made it a reality to own a bike I thought I'd never afford. Anyways, good video,nice gun collection, your probably a good American. So am I. Have a good day bro.
Thanks man
I ride a Harley… but I’m about sick of the company. My dad rode Harleys too. But that soon might change. They turned their backs on the blue collar customers ( actual bikers) …who actually supported them. They started catering to white collar yuppies. Did they really have to get a Hollywood star to push their brand? Why not actual people who keep this country going? They also are “woke” now. I’m also sick of the higher prices for less of a bike. You can buy another brand for less money and get more. They are living off of their name and screwing over customers. Definitely looking into other brands now. It’s kind of sad that some people let HD screw them over and treat them like crap… but these people support HD no matter what. Pretty pathetic.
I owned a Night Rod Special, it was my first Harley. I loved it. The new sportster has the same engine just updated.
I will stick to my 93 ultra classic 🇨🇦
As seen in my picture this was my favorite Harley a 2005 V Rod with Road Glide Faring and Bags. Rode it from Florida to Sturgis and back in 2010. It was a great trip. My last motorcycle was a 2004 Honda VTX 1300C with a sidecar. Loved it too but my age got the best of me.
I think you're off base on the VRod. Harley haters actually like the bike. It's everything that Harley has never been, up to that point. Fast, high tech, great handling, high revving and liquid cooled. The ones that hated the VRod the most, were the Harley purists.
Tend to agree, the one harley I would add to the stable.
The bike was meant for younger riders but they're all broke
Yup. I think they’re an awesome ride. However, my riding stile is touring. The VRod isn’t a great long distance, multi day rider.
Just wait till vrod fans find out about the yamaha Vmax.
@@caseymckeeborrego Yeah, the Max was a rocket ship...but to be fair, it did it with twice the cylinders and another 550cc (Gen2)...and didn't take the curves nearly as well. The VRod rocked for a V-Twin.
Ride a Harley,but have had and enjoyed number of machines and makes.99 Zrx 1100 my favorite.The "Look at Me" heir alot of Harley riders have is at times over the Top. Kinda like the Rich kid in School with the Jordans poking fun at your Pro Keds. Just Ride and enjoy,and stay safe while doing it.
I have a 2009 V Rod which I fixed up with fairing and some other full dress mods and a lot of chrome. It has a feel out on the highway and it’s very comfortable and not a dimes worth of problems. I like it. Harley purists didn’t like water cooled bikes, but they don’t try anything new.
I ride an 09 Buell XB12XP and am a Harley hater because of what they did to Buell. I see the value in thier machines but i just can't get over thier business model.
The new Buell super cruiser is really cool
BINGO!
25:03 As someone who’s been riding motorcycles for over four decades, I’m 53 years old. It’s not about going fast. Although I currently ride a 2023 Yamaha MT 10 which is a hyper naked machine is still not about going fast. It’s about what you like and just enjoying the performance of a particular machine.
I’ve never owned but I have ridden many Harley Davidson‘s And one of my favorites is another hated by the Harley loyalists. The fat boy and the fat boy-lo are two of my favorite Harleys to ride. I absolutely love riding those machines. Also riding my friends heritage softail that has been built to be a total rocket. It’s just a different feeling all together. There’s nothing like the torque of a big ass Harley and that’s why I like riding Harleys. At the same time I love my high revving Crossplain crank in-line four that makes 170 hp. It’s all fun and that’s what I love and have always loved about riding motorcycles.
When I get on my 170 hp Yamaha I ride that machine for a certain vibe if you will and when I get on the fat boy low, I’m looking for a certain vibe. They both do their intended purpose very well and are both very different. That’s what I love about riding motorcycles.
By the way, I’m 5 foot 7 and only weigh 150 pounds so riding these big powerful machines no matter what they are, has always been a hell of a thrill for me.
I love the looks of the Iron 883.
A Sportster is a Sportster is a Sportster... (Chinese voice - ALL LOOK SAME!) Unless it is a Roadster then you have a totally different animal. (Just kidding. Love my Roadster.)
Hi Hegshot Rides, another great episode 🔥Hope you had a great July 4th, lots of Harley Haters yesterday, when I was cruising on my RoadGlide..mostly cars…3 lanes and they decided to tailgate me, oh well. Lastly, I can also say from a rider that started riding in 1988 on a Yamaha YSR 50, to a 92 CBR, 02 Gixxer,98 R1, 07 Hayabusa, 2012 Sportster, 2016 Street Glide and now my 2020 RoadGlide, the best and only motorcycle I will saddle up❤sadly most riders will never know, the way a Harley Davidson RoadGlide makes you feel..Ride Hard💪🏼, Be Blessed 🙏🏽, Aloha, Kenneth 🤙🏽
Thanks man
I love all makes and models of bikes...
My first Harley was an Ironhead Sportster. I have a 1400 Suzuki Intruder, I picked up an Ultra Classic on the way, then picked up a "72" 1200 Sportster in 2016. A Friend had a 2010 883 Iron he wanted to get rid of. To me, it is kind of like the V-Rod seating position. Just to hop around town, the 883 is my favorite right now except for the fatter front tire.
I couldn’t agree more on the iron 883. This bike is awesome for new riders even I wasn’t a new writer and I bought this bike and rode it across the country. I wasn’t super comfortable but didn’t have a single problem on the way out or on the way back. There’s definitely something to be said for that and also an entry into the Harley world.
When I first started riding 35 years ago, I started with an HD. I rode for about 5 years thinking only wimps rode other brands. Then a buddy let me ride his BMW. Wow! Years later, I’ve switched exclusively to BMW, Ducati, Triumph. However, anything anybody rides with 2wheels is awesome including HDs
My older brother had a 1973 AMF Sprint. A great Harley 350
I think they should make thes small 350s again
When I went to get my first Harley, back in mid 2012, I was looking at the 883 Iron. Ended up buying the last 2011 Nightster they had in the showroom. Got it for the same price as the 2012 883 Iron. I still love the Evo Sportster. Now I am chopping a 1991 Sportster 883 Deluxe that was already punched out to 1200. I also have a 1997 Yamaha Vmax.
I hate that harley riders dont say wasup on the road, gimme a break
I ride Harley’s and all give the wave to every biker 2 and 3 wheels
@@budredden818 😊
@@budredden818 hey man, so why is it that most dont? Asking for a friend
I greet everyone on two wheels, especially the justeat uber moped delivery nobs, it confuses them and I get a kick out of it.
@@budredden818 Depends on your location.
That's very common throughout "flyover country" but much lesser so in bigger cities along the coasts.
The Live Wire hands down …. MC blew a billion dollars on that POS
Yep, and it's garbage compared to other offerings in the catagory, if I'm going electric give me a energica.
I'm having too much fun on my Triumph Speed Twin 1200 to care what anyone else rides. You do you , have fun and enjoy your ride.
My first harley was a v-rod muscle & I love this bike, great setup love the forward controls. People say you can't turn this bike....I can, no problems plus I have a 260 rear. I've ridden a lot of harleys & I can say it's the only harley I'll ever ride.
The Night Rod Special is one of the most gorgeous muscle bikes ever designed. Don't care if it couldn't turn for crap. Beautiful engine, tons of power, and aesthetically like no other bike on the market at the time.
You summed it up quite well. Personally love the Harley and have had one for over 20 years.
I considered Indian motorcycles, but after the 5 Harley-Davidsons that I’ve had, my most recent the 2022 Street Bob 114. I have to admit, coming off of a 2013 ElectraGlide it was a drastic change in comfort, but made up for In agility and power. I haven’t owned a four wheeler in quite a while, sometimes wishing to have a heater in the cooler months, or an air conditioner in these Texas summers, but given the choice to ride my scooter or a four wheeler,,, I will always lean towards the scooter. Going on 73 years old, this 5th Harley is just keeping me busy until I can come up with the funds to return to a touring scooter, # 6 !!!!
AMF and private equity have everything in common. Planned obsolescence is what it's all about.. Looks rock! Reliability beyond the warranty isn't a consideration.
The first three years of the v-rod was the best, it had a narrow back wheel and was bomb in the mountains.
All bikes have something. Maybe you like it maybe not, but for someone, it’s everything. Like music or food, not my taste but I can’t argue that some love it.
...I've got a 1946 Knucklehead, a beater but 93" S&S Sidewinder inside. It always gets plenty of attention everywhere I go. Many people haven't ever seen a Knucklehead...except in pictures or videos
My 'other' Harley is an old 1972 sporty with complete SPUTHE 80 cubic inch XR type engine, all aluminum, bike weighs 395 pounds, and as the late Alan Sputhe said...at least 100 horsepower....
The 'Sporty' is pretty much exact copy of the cover bike on august 1980 cycle world....so yeah, it's kind of old, but really gets with it when you open the throttle....by the time you get the throttle open, it's time to shift...
I've never raced the 'sporty' on a track....but easily pegs the speedo at 140 MPH....60+ in first gear....
I've owned many different brands and types of bikes over the years.
All used and bargain basement priced.
My first big twin harley was a 1978 flh shriner.
The only original parts are the tanks, frame, engine, and transmission.
It's been through many mods over the years. ( and I will keep it until my last breath of life)
My other two bikes are Harley-Davidsons, 1991 Springer Softtail, and a 1992 Electra Glide Ultra Classic.
I like bikes that can be maintained with basic hand tools 🔧 and you don't need a computer degree to figure out what is wrong with it.
The EVOS are extremely reliable, and even my AMF shovelhead is very reliable.
I'm not into big hp and going fast anymore, I just enjoy getting out and enjoying back country roads and enjoying life. (61 years old)
Like a good woman, take care of them and respect them, and they won't let you down.
Ignore them and don't give them the attention they need, and you'll learn the meaning of (hell hath no fury like a woman scorned) hahaha
Seriously though, I have an appreciation for most of my motorcycles, especially classic and antique bikes from every part of the world.
I don't hate HDs. I looked at their bikes and spoke with some HD owners. While I was looking, the only bike that spoke to me was the Ducati XDiavel.
I want to k ow what that bike said because it doesn't appeal to me at all. But if you like it that's fine with me.
@@josephmetiva3575 figure of speech... I just like the aesthetics better than the HDs.
4:16 one of my brothers first bike was a 2019 iron 883, he paid about 8400 or 8500 for it came with a passenger pillion and back rest, his wife hated getting on the back of that bike she didnt feel safe and he did look big on it but he got it to learn to ride and get more comfortable after he got his endorsement. After 6 months he traded in the 19 iron for a 23 Street Glide about 2 weeks after I traded in my 09 softail for a 24 Street Glide.
I think the main reason that many Harley riders call the iron 883 a girls bike is because of its small size, I test rode my brothers iron that i mentioned above and found it to be small and uncomfortable I'm 6'3 the bike had mid controls and the seating position was more aggressive than i was used to. My wife had sat on one in the showroom a few weeks ago because shes deciding whether she wants to ride or stay on the back of my bike and it was perfect size for her being 5'8 she felt comfortable on the bike plus its light weight and easily maneuverable, she also looked at a street 500 and a Sportster S. Hell even my softail is sometimes called a girls bike for the same reason as the iron, its small size.
11:25 I can definitely attest to that, I get so much flack for liking and buying the 24 Street Glide by people that have an 06-14 Street Glide mainly.
The 883 sporster was a great way to get into riding. Once you get good on that 883 you buy the 1200 kit and wow, PLUS you know how to handle it
I liked the show where owners bet their bikes at the drag strip. Brand new V Rod awarded to a guy with a 1981 Suzuki GS1100. A standard do it all motorcycle introduced in 1980 as i recall but quicker and faster than a V Rod and with normal ergonomics.
A Electra glide with the King of the road package in the 1970s weighed 732 lb with a half a tank of gas now they weigh 900 plus pounds
When I was young I liked the little rice rockets and we made fun of Harley's but as I got older I moved to the cruiser style I want to enjoy the ride and fast is ok at times but going slow and taking it easy is where I enjoy myself the most
I've had plenty of people talk shit about Harley, but no one ever said that they hate Harleys. I don't hate any bikes. However, I do get a chuckle when I see someone on a metric with straight pipes.
I don't like their crankshafts come pressed together in 3 pieces. The connecting rod bearings are actual needle bearings . Harley does a nice job on their chrome and paint.. I have a 2020 Fury, with cobra exhaust.
For years Harleys came from the factory with what were essentially straight pipes. Yes they had something on the pipes that looked like mufflers, but they clearly weren't anywhere near functional. Those guys who put straight pipes on metric cruisers just wanted bikes that both looked like and sounded like Harleys.
As a non harley owner I found this video helpful as regards knowing what I'm looking at. It's funny how the harley I have always liked the look of is the one some other harley riders call a girls bike 😆. I guess it depends a lot on what kind of journeys you go on and how important comfort is. Personally I'd love to own a harley iron 883 they look like such a fantastic lump of a machine, but I will just have to make do with my nippy little royal enfield for the time being. Happy riding folks.
Harley's about to move production to Thailand for American bikes. Side note the sportster is one of my favorite Harley's because of what you can do to them. Plus I love the evolution motor. I've had them all Harley, Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, and now an Indian. They have all been fun. I think the basic-ness of my 1200 sportster I enjoyed the most. And miss it the most, now they got rid of it in their current line up so may buy a used one to keep in the line up.
I don't know what VROD you rode mate but my 2007 Night Rod handled like it was on rails and others I've ridden were the same.
I worked at a Harley dealership. The most hated Harley Davidson was the 1977 XLCR. I hated it too. To be honest, I hate all the newer Harleys since 1987. After that, they all blow.
Funny, I’ve always wanted one
What's not to hate? The Stealerships ruined it all when they became boutiques imo
Harley-Davidson has helped Chinese competitors sell more knockoffs of their products and also Harley-Davidson helped sell more Indians.
I've been riding since the late 60's. As long as they ride and not doing anything stupid around me I don't care what they ride. To each his own.
Do sorry to hear about the passings in your family. Take care of yrself and ur famoly first. We'll all be here when you get back❤
Happy trails, Cowpoke
The pre-AMF Harley Davidson’s actually had the quality control problem. As an example dealers would get brand new motorcycles that were lacking things like…pistons. AMF ensured quality control, but used cheaper parts, such as the carburetor, etc. I had a 79 XLS sportster and the sucker was bulletproof. So you’re right, AMF did save Harley, but it was Harley that had the quality control problem.
The RUB-GLIDE 💰 not into a love seat on tires.
Been there done that, arm chair comfort with twin tub touring seat on a 75/74 FLH but what a flogged out money pit.
I enjoy all motorcycles and am glad that there are many choices and options. As far as Harley’s go, I have owned six, and currently own a near classic Electra Glide which I have owned since 2002 and will never sell. I am also rebuilding a 2005 Road King. In addition, I own and mostly ride a Honda Goldwing GL-1800. I will say that no manufacturer can match the quality and color choices of Harley paints. However, it sadly seems like Harley is pricing themselves out of the market and I can’t justify buying a new one ever again.
My preference has always been dirt bikes. I totally loved my Yamaha IT125. I'd love seeing HD come out with dirt bikes.
Willie G designed the FX in 71. In 1980 the FXB Sturgis was out to the market, it was just an FX with a belt primary and belt fianl drive. It's a sought-after bike, but really, what saved HD was the buyback in 81. The FXR was introduced in 82. The R indicated the rubbermount motor. The Sturgis only ran a few years and was replaced by the FXSB in 1983.
It’s interesting that bikes that people like overseas and you often see them customised and appreciated like the V-Rod and street models weren’t popular in North America but massively popular in Australia, Europe, Asia and even the Middle East where baggers aren’t as popular because people choose different types of bikes for long distance riding
I got a 2008 Harley sportster 883 low edition for 4,200 total, it had 14k miles, has the classic Harley logo on the tank, I’ve put over 2k miles on it in 3-4 months, I ride when I want, not when the weather permits. This is my 7th bike, 4 different brands, thousands of miles, all bike is a bike, it’s what you make it that matters to you, nobody else
Would have a V rod but the tank range is the reason I didn't keep a sportster 883.
Chain drive, 4 speed, solid motor mount was not that small 40 years ago.
I ride a 2019 street bob blackout special,,,love it.
I love my HD Softail 105 anniversary, I am a short guy 5-8, so it fits me perfect
Started on a benali mini bike,in 68. 5th gradebuddys dad was a flat trac racer,honda, cushman guzzi hodaka Harley the wind feels the same,it how yet ass feel end of 8 hrs
2018 anniversary edition Street Glide Special has the BEST eagle graphic ever!!
I love my Yamaha 650 v-star and my Harley V-rod.
I love my Harley and many other bikes, I keep my comments to my self about bikes that don't suit me. But it's not uncommon to hear non harley riders making comments about harley prices, low hp, slow, grampa bike, harley tax, weight, etc. I just tell them to move on. I choose not to point out their excessive plastic.
I enjoy riding motorcycles and have ridden just about everything you can imagine including all the Japanese bikes, Harley's, Triumphs, BMW's, Ducati's, KTM's, sport bikes, cruisers, touring bikes, dirt bikes, adventure bikes, even scooters. And I've owned many different brands and types of motorcycles over the decades. Yet I have never bought a piece of clothing with the brand name of the motorcycle I rode. I ride because it's fun and could care less what anyone thinks about what I ride.
I'm not a hater of any particular bike. No brand loyalty or disloyalty for me!! I wave at all two-wheelers and most three-wheelers, too! I also admire the engineering and styling of nearly every model out there. Motorcycles are fascinating pieces of mechanical tech!!! And their riders who personalize them make them even more interesting!
Harley just hasn't made a bike that does what I want right out of the box. I'm more of a sporting-oriented-almost-touring rider these days. For me, the best niche has been the sport-touring genre of motorcycles - Honda ST1300, Yamaha FJR1300, and the like. They handle great, have great performance, rideability and reliability, look good, are moderately comfortable, and I can drone 250 miles in a sitting without too much discomfort and still have fun in the twisties 😎😎
Sure!! You can customize the CRAP out of a Harley! The aftermarket and dealer support for post-purchase stuff is phenomenal!! And customizing is half the fun of owning one! But I'm not into spending $30,000+ for a motorcycle that I'm not satisfied with the performance of, on which I'd then want to spend another $5,000 to make it handle decently, another $5k to get it to run the way I want it to, and then another $5K in ergonomics and 'farkles', then another $5k in 'beauty accessories'.
Personally, I'm at the point of moving to a touring rig. But HD, as good as they have become, is still behind the curve. My personal requirements are water-cooling, strong frame and suspension, outstanding brakes, and excellent ergonomics. The bike must perform solidly in a straight-line or when the road curves. The tech is also important to me - Apple CarPlay or Android Auto is a must. I also want hard bags that are both beautiful and functional, and a trunk (I've gotten spoiled having one on my ST!!). I'm thinking my next bike is either an Indian Pursuit or Honda GoldWing. I'm leaning very heavily toward the Indian, though!! That's one BEAUTIFUL bike!!
At the end of the day, we all choose what we ride based on our own particular desires. I don't care if you ride a BMW, Honda, Harley, Ural, Moto Guzzi, or, whatever!! We are all family when on the road!!
What I DO care about is being a decent human being. There are riders of ALL makes and models that are great people!! And there are also those who are complete a-holes.
I personally prefer the great people that are out there enjoying life and all the world has to offer - ON MOTORCYCLES!
I have a 89 fxlr original owner 35,000 Mi showroom condition very very modified
If its got two wheels its good with me. Had a used 100k vrod and it never failed me for the next 37k. Think was bullet proof.
The V-Rod was just plain weird. 😢
The Porsche Harley Davidson. Big, tube frame, finless engine. It was as if HR Giger designed a Cruiser.
It may have been weird but it was a great motorcycle!
It was for the tide pod generation but they're too broke to afford it.
My wife is interested in riding. I’m thinking of getting her an Iron 883 for her first bike.