How the Troubles became a bloody war
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- Опубликовано: 25 апр 2023
- 1972 was the bloodiest year of the Troubles. But as the violence reached the new heights, all sides in the conflict were beginning to change. By the mid-1980s the British Government would try to step away, the Provisional IRA would enter politics and Loyalist paramilitaries would begin to rise.
In our last episode we explored the origins of the conflict. Now, we explore the deadliest decade of the Troubles and the events that would change the conflict entirely.
Watch the rest of our Troubles series:
Episode 1 - Origins: • Why the Troubles start...
Episode 2 - Escalation: • How the Troubles becam...
Episode 3 - Division: • Living through the Tro...
Episode 4 - Peace: • How do you end a 30-ye...
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Watch the rest of our Troubles series:
Episode 1 - Origins: ruclips.net/video/IHLYeBtGvOg/видео.html
Episode 3 - Division: ruclips.net/video/NNmcRoNMC5E/видео.html
Episode 4 - Peace: ruclips.net/video/F5RlWxirYYM/видео.html
Behind the scenes of our exhibition - ruclips.net/video/l5szVTilBEo/видео.html
As someone who grew up on the Falls road during the Troubles I like this documentary, it doesn't take any sides, it just states the facts. No Angels or Heroes on any side, just bloodshed, death and total misery for many families. Even with it all there are no more friendly people than the ordinary non sectarian people of N. Ireland. And these people are the Majority despite what you hear on the News.
Same, but I grew up on the other side of the West Link. Near the new balls.
People seem shocked at how friendly we are but that’s prob partially due to our aggressive accents and a misunderstanding of what we mean by loving the craic
"Paul M "As someone who grew up on the Falls road during the Troubles I...@ In the late '80s, in my job back then in Australia, I ran into 2 couples, immigrants from Northern Ireland, who were not only best of friends but lived next door to each other, one Catholic, t'other Protestant. They told me that they had to disclaim knowledge of each other when communicating with their respective families back in Belfast. "Yes, we know that Paddy and Colleen have emigrated to Australia but we haven't run into them"
The one thing that binds Catholics and Protestants together is poverty.
@1916jamesconnolly It’s hard not to take sides, but at the end of the day all conflicts are brothers killing brothers. I pray nothing happens in Ireland again, and I pray that Russia and Ukraine come come to terms soon.
It's almost impossible to give an objective overview of The Troubles but this is probably one of the better efforts I've seen.
The only reason people see the troubles as a grey conflict is because of British propaganda, it’s as black and white as it gets
Why not? We the British should never have been in any part of Ireland, we were an invading force. The fact we are still in Northern Ireland is unacceptable.
@@antonclark Thank you
@@antonclark you are proof that people can be logical
@@antonclark Well you see thats the problem. You've simplified a conflict with no simple solution to "well it shouldn't have happened" Yes it shouldn't have but Now that the Scotish, Welsh and English settlers from the 1500s have been on in the north of Ireland for such a long time its hard to say they don't deserve a right to self determination. They are Irish in the same way a child of aftican or indian immigrant is english because they've been born here. So this is an example of past evils causing modern problems. if they don't want to go, who are we to say they have any less claim to their own homes? Yes they shouldn't have been colonised. It was wrong but to forcibly remove them or to deny them a voice in their own country wouldn't fix that.
Don't forget that the troubles was started by extremists in both Protistant Loyalists and Republican Cathlics. To ignore the wishes of one group or another would insight more problems just like the troubles. It created a no win scenario. Thats what made the troubles so difficult. There was no solution. Britian couldn't leave because it would ignore the wants of the protistants as well as their fears of being mistreated by the Cathlics, Britian couldn't simply stay because the Cathlics feared they were being mistreated by the protistants and by the local police as well as wanting to rejoin the rest of ireland. The differences between these groups were so big the only thing that ended it was that people were sick of it.
And the saddest part was that all the bloodshed and violence and absolutely horrific things that happened were all for nothing and could have absolutely been avoided. And its sad how people can justify doing such horrible things to their own countrymen. its disgusting.
This is a pretty accurate telling of the events that took place during that time. I know, because I was there. I had just turned sixteen and was serving my first-year apprenticeship in Mechanical Engineering when the Ulster Workers Council strike brought Northern Ireland to a standstill. Parents were talking about sending the young children over to Scotland for safety because many thought all out civil war was coming and it was going to be a blood bath.
He failed to mention collusion between Loyalists, the RUC and the British Army
my father was part of the picket lines during the strikes told me some crazy stories about how it went down
I was ten I lossed my parents for 3 weeks the Brits had dad and my mother ran to Dublin thinking I was with relatives.
I am glad that the troubles are over. Peace in Northern Ireland.
It would have been another Balkans-type mess. Tea is redolent of civilisation, and tea it was that was brought out to the British troops in 1969.
I stayed in Dublin for two weeks last November and got quite a bit of education about history of Irish Independence movement, Sinn Fein, and Irish Republicanism in all the museums there, but the part about the Troubles and the Irish Republic's attitude towards the NI situation is a bit vague and hasty for me. Glad to see IWM publish this series at the 25th anniversary of the Good Friday Agreement, will definitely continue watching
Members of Jack Lynch’s cabinet proposed to invade Northern Ireland in 1969 to force the hand of the British government and the international community but as we know invading countries on the basis of protecting your people there never ends well. They appealed to the UN to intervene and send the blue helmets in this went nowhere.
Because it’s not settled history. Museums don’t tend to make too much reference to current affairs or recent history because it can be accused of interference.
In Ireland it’s still in living memory. I was honestly completely surprised to see that there is an entire floor dedicated to it at the Imperial War Museum honestly it’s excellent. I know there is a small museum in Derry The free Derry museum but I haven’t been there But I hear it’s excellent.
Dublin wasn’t hugely impacted by the troubles with the exception of the Dublin-Monaghan bombings so it wouldn’t really be part of the remit of museums there to tell the story of another area. Like you don’t hear about events in Cork or Galway etc in Dublin just as you wouldn’t hear about Belfast or Derry there either.
Often the events are in a broader context but tied to specific events relating to the city
@@beaglaoich4418 The thing is, the context of the Troubles doesn't sit neatly with the Republic of Ireland's national story, which is a more simplified story of the IRA and their supporters kicking out the British Imperialists. The Troubles throws a spanner in the works of simplified national story telling (which all nations have and rely on to form their national identities). Ultimately, to many in the Republic of Ireland who don't live within the context of communal sectarianism, the Troubles is as alien as it is to many in England. Historically, it has been easier to not think about the fact there is a load of Irish people living in the North who don't buy into the Republic of Ireland's story.
1st two videos in this series have been incredible, Can't wait for part 3
I traveled from California to London just to visit the Imperial War Museum. It's amazing.
I traveled to Vietnam to see the war museum was amazing too ...very different outlook on imperialists
Great explanation of a complex issue. Thank you!
I watched another video about this (also made by yous - I THINK!!) & I just wanted to say that in all of my school years, and the many history classes that I attended, I was told of maybe (honestly) 2% about any of this. I went on to take further clases in history, & human geography, & other such things. It wasin't untill my 2nd yr I ever heard of "The Troubles", & even then, maybe 5-6% of what this video presents. This is incredible information, & I wanted to say thank you for putting this together SO WELL!! I learned more than a couple new things TODAY - & that's ALWAYS a good thing. Peace!!
Thanks so much for putting a lot of energy into this video and the others you've made. Really good job!
Next time take a day or two to go to Belfast and take the Black Cab tour. I highly recommend it, and Belfast is a great city.
Greetings from Ireland, great documentary from a great museum, thanks
Doing a great job with these videos lads, the best intro vids to the conflict that I've seen. An-mhaith ar fád says this Tague ;)
Really interesting. I am looking forward to learning more as i was a child living in London in the 70's and witnessed a bombing. What i think is hard to understand is that there appears to be such a simple solution which in reality is not so straight forward. Thanks for uploading.
Giving the people of NI the right to vote on reunification would be a good start. They gave it to Scotland, the Falkands, and Gibraltar but not Ireland.
@@TheAnthraxBiologyit's the North of Ireland not northern Ireland, northern Ireland only exists on paper.
@@TheAnthraxBiologyLast time North Ireland got a vote they voted to be part of the UK
@TheAnthraxBiology You know why, really. The english would most definitely have to pay some sort of economic reparation to the north of our country. Rightly so... they neglected the important economic recovery post the closing of major industries there. I've read recently of a number of new companies setting up there. I mean, you've got sea access via Belfast port & an international airport. I see huge benefits if the people of the North vote for reunification.
Éire go deo gan na Sasanaigh! 🎉
Wow that was actually very objective. A nice touch with having both Derry and Londonderry for the same place. Skeptical but very informative and even handed.
A really powerful documentary film - thank you for all the work you do, bringing the history of conflict back in to focus for future generations.
I find it strang how people dont talk of this as a war, they call it the troubles. It was a war and ever one killed a lot of people and the reason it so well animated is because no one actually won or lost.
It was never called a war because the IRA knew that if they declared war they’d be goosed.
@@ProfileP246 the Brits were the ones who coined the term the troubles ...how could it not have been a war? Population of only 1.5 million and every day bombs and bullets going off with military bases all around...the IRA always maintained it was a war for 30 years
@@ProfileP246How? The IRA was not an actual army. It was a group of individuals who decided their wishes were more important then the vast majority of the population
Great to see such an objective series regarding Northern Irish history, really enjoying this series and is a refreshing take compared to what I was taught growing up in NI.
What were you taught?
what is NI?
I wish all the people of the North and South a better future peace ✌️
I haven't even watched the video yet but already, judging from the comments, I can tell it'll be good. Thank you for the content
Love your work 👍
Excellent. From the outside, this seems as balanced and accessible as such a short presentation can be. Keep up the good work.
Look forward to watching this. Positive comments saying it’s not biased. Hard to do that these days
Great content. Thank you!
I was born in 1995, my parents were both from the republican newlodge road, my girlfriends were from Divis flats.
The stories they tell about their childhoods, not just the war, but the abject poverty, i find it genuinely unbelievable that anyone of that generation are functioning human beings.
My generation would do a lot to listen to their parents and grandparents stories, we are the most privileged to ever have walked the island of Ireland.
30.000 soldiers in Op. Motorman is the same numbers as dispatched to the South Atlantic to retake the Falklands.
I thought it was 8,000 that took it back?
@@Bullet-Tooth-Tony- 8000 might be only those who went ashore. UK sent almost 100 ships down there. 30 of the warships. The Royal Navy is not capable to send such a force alone today.
Far more than were sent to Helmand to conduct COIN ops too...
British troops “policing “ “British subjects “🤔. Won’t be countenanced on the “mainland “. Until now. Empire’s coming home.
@@hantykje3005 That would be 8,000 soliders, plus 22,000 sailors, pilots, engineers and all the other logisitical support necessary to sustain a force of 8,000 soliders.
Simply great history in 15 minutes! Nice to see that IWM can produce old-fashioned facts-based history in 21st century on such a harsh subject.
ruclips.net/video/baNt9SEgeMA/видео.html&pp=ygUPRkFMU0sgRVZJQ1RJT04g
Fact-based history is hardly old-fashioned.
Amazing series
Indeed(:-))
Hello from Ireland, my dad and grandfather were at the protest in Dublin outside the British embassy when it was burned down .. both of them told me the garda stood back and watched .. did nothing to stop it .. the idea going is that the then Irish government wanted to send a message to the then British government.
Your dad and grandad are right, I was there and also remember the guards stood well back while money was collected for petrol bombs. I watched it burn bottom to top as the fire burnt floor to floor. Also a couple of lads had to hack the windows out of the ground floor, bulletproof, to get the petrol bombs in.
More that the Irish Government didn't want to sacrifice their own police force's lives in trying to hold back a dangerously baying crowd, all in order to protect the British Embassy, whose Army had just massacred unarmed peaceful Irish protestors (many of them children)...in the circumstances, an understandable call.
Ignoring their duties to uphold the Law of the land was a trait demonstrated by the Irish security forces throughout the troubles.
@@bigbird6039 The Brits in the north were far worse in this regard.
While the British security forces were teaching militants on both sides how to make bigger bombs. Many of the biggest attacks from both sides were directly funded and pushed by the British security forces, the biggest terrorists of the entire saga.
I really appreciate that it does seem to take impartial reporting of the events. keep it up
Had no clue it was so complex. In the US in school back when I was young, they basically cut it down to "Ireland vs. Britain end of story" and leave out the history and just how many different groups were involved and different reasons this all happened. Most informative documentary ive seen on this subject.
I had remembered hearing about tension between Great Britain and Ireland that seemed to last for generations. Thank you for having this video as I do want to know more about it. Can you suggest some please that are at the same time frame?
The Irish have been fighting the English Oppression/Colonizationfor 800 years.
Tiocfaidh a'r la'!!!!-Solidarity WorldWide!
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I was only in Junior school when the good Friday agreement was signed and can remember being evacuated a few times from shopping centres and the cinema because of bomb threats. My biggest hope is my son never has to be evacuated or have his life affected due to domestic terrorism.
One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fightet
"Domestic Terrorism"
The Troubles term was appropriated by the British press from the original real The Troubles in the 1920s - 30s Irish War of Independence
Plus the fact Britain didn't want to acknowledge that a sectarian civil war was happening right on their door step
There was more killed in the north during the conflict than the Irish war of independence
I notice at 14:12 in the second row and second from right, Harry Breen , his TV interview after the Loughgall killings meant he would be having his very own day to be carried along in a box very very soon afterward .
💯he signed his death warrant with that interview showing the gun
Ever wondered why there's no litter bins in underground stations? That's a hangover from this time.
I never knew this - thanks for that information.
You guys do a great job teaching moments of lesser known British history. I love learning through your videos!
Irish and British history
@@gaeilgeanois9314 Northern Ireland is Britain, it's British history
The English public has always turned a blind eye to the miseries caused by their government.
@MrcabooseVG it might be part of the UK but it never was, isn't, and never will be Britain. No matter who's in power.
@@rymic72 No we have not , to generalise the whole of the British Public is indiscriminate. On V.E day 🇪🇺 in the 90,s , we had to be picked up by the Recovery driver RAC, from Newtonards/Ards to be taken to the Ferry as it meant passing the Stormont . But some had already gathered outside the Stormont and came charging at us in our Recovery Truck. I said to the recovery driver “That was hairy , don’t they realise that Catholics fought in WW2 also”. He replied aye they forget that. I would have been prepared to go to Ireland 🇮🇪 to accompany the children to school where it was hyper Sectarian. A lot of Catholic and Protestants Christians want Peace . It’s the minority groups that inflame it. Ireland has an Ancient History . Older than Celtic Welsh Arthurian History. My paternal Gran was Irish ☘️ though she died before I was born in Glasgow. Sunderland University at one time had the largest Irish Group in the UK!
They're also as of today announced they are attending the Kings coronation in May. Seems times have changed and they are playing a new type of politics. I gather the loyalist culture isn't best pleased about it. Sad to see really, they're leaving themselves in the past.
“Leaving themselves in the past” is also why Brexit happened. The past is, for a lot of people, the reason for almost everything. And for the others it’s something that was much better than today…
@@pjotrtje0NL mate, Brexit never even started, the people voting for it never saw a single change from it, not from the private individual to business to how we import or export, nevermind the fact that we still operate off EU laws.
@@Karelwolfpup Except all the bad things that people predicted would happen, that were actually backed up by evidence and facts, rather than the lies of the Leave campaign. Brexit has happened, it is a disaster, get over it.
The people who voted for it were all gullible fools.
@Pi Ta So because the UK took a DEMOCRATIC decision to leave a free trade area that morphed into a political union that's a bad thing
@@Karelwolfpup Brexit absolutely started. My company used to buy a lot of indexable cutting tools, clamping tools, etc from Brittain, import duties now mean that stopped, it's cheaper to buy from Germany, or even from Taiwan or China. My friends also stopped buying from the UK because the often import tarrifs.
Ulsterization could be partially attributed to the Warrenpoint ambush where the provisional IRA killed 18 paratroopers and Lord Louis Mountbatten on August 27th 1979, I'm surprised the video didn't mention this since it was a significant incident during the period.
My Father was in Dublin in 74 when the loyalist bombs went off, he was 50 yards away, he tended to the victims. I was living in Blackley, Manchester in 96, when the republican bomb went off, I heard the blast from 4 miles away and the glass in my bedroom window shook for about 5 seconds. Peace🔥
And no-one killed Damn the Irish can make a statement with out inflicting much death, I personally hate bombs there so indiscriminate. Eire Nua.
"Loyalist bombs", you mean British Security Services bombs?
@@dowdallerno1 loyalists, with the help of elements of the British military and RUC.
I was there too. My sister and I were supposed to meet a friend to walk home together. We would have been walking by the bombs but we missed our friend and were pissed off so we went to a film. We came out to a world of shattered glass.
@@patkearney9320 Without inflicting much death? The PIRA alone killed more people than the loyalist terror groups and the RUC/Army combined during the troubles.
😮 Interesting
Dirty protest was because anytime they left the cells they were beaten and tortured by the guards... This documentary leaves out a lot of key details
Source?
They also tried to get rid of their waste by putting it out the window but the guards kept throwing it back in.
Sam Millar
The videos of prisoners have them screaming as wannabe political prisoners. Crime is crime.
Trust me bro!
A very interesting video.
No Mountbatten assassination coverage from ‘79? A fairly egregious omission.
A few noticeable omissions
Narrow Water!!!!
Why not talk about the murders by Paisley's crew in 1966. That was the trigger for the beginning of the troubles.
Your right. Gusty spence killed a innocent catholic man
@@DylanRobb-rh6vl the IRA had been killing policemen all through the 1950's. How far do you want to go back.
Amazing to think that one side would launch attacks in an attempt to provoke the other when a peace that they didn't like threatened.
The Unionists had a long-held and not unjustified fear of retaliation and ethnic cleansing if they came under the jurisdiction of Irish Catholics, as was seen after 1641, 1798, 1922, and basically any other moment the Catholic population had the upper hand militarily. To avoid what they saw as the withdraw of the only thing keeping them alive they would go to great lengths. You can see echoes of that in the politics even today, with fears of the "border down the Irish Sea" post-Brexit. Sinn Fein's dreams of a united Irish ethno-state have surely not been forgotten, and Ulster Protestants' fear of the same and the manner through which it would be achieved simmer below the surface. History is never over.
There was no peace agreement in 1974. The IRA were still murdering people and had no intention of stopping because they still thought they would win a military victory.
It's hardly surprising then that the unionists were against any such concessions when there was nothing in it for them. It was seen simply as rewarding the nationalists for IRA violence.
My grandfather was a para and impossibly survived the aldershot parachute regiment HQ IRA bombing, despite being inside the building, only a few meters from the blast centre!
What gun is that on the thumbnail?
Great video but I have to comment that the thumbnail looks like the IRA was launching 'hunger' missiles at England lmao
the IRA blew up a coach of Soldiers on the way to Catterick garrison which isn't all that far from where I live. Even a rural place like this was not immune to the fighting on the far side of the Irish Sea, depressing that the troubles don't seem to have finalized, rather they are simply on pause.
The recent local elections show that people's political views are getting more polarised. Some of the moderate parties lost votes and the hardline republican and loyalist parties have gained more votes. This is not a good sign.
@@davidgalea6113 the answer is simple: the godless occupiers need to leave. In an age where the empire has been dismantled, what could possibly be the excuse to illegitametly hold on to NI?
@@theregent3397 Because its not Republican Irish anymore, why is it such a hard concept for passionate people like you to understand, the people of NI are now a different culture, religion, politics, and national identity, if the Republican Irish forced their rule on the northern part of the island they would be the Imperialist Conquerors no better then Russia in Ukraine claiming "I owned this land long ago and the citizens share ethnicity with me" the only difference is Ireland is viewed as an impudent child biting in retaliation for past (legitimately awful) crimes since its small and weak while Russia is large and (supposed to be) powerful. Northern Ireland wants no part of Ireland, they benefit from the larger UK economy, they aren't discriminated for being protestant or catholic anymore (cant say the same for the south) and they are repeatedly given the option of joining Ireland via referendum and they refuse every time by wide margins. NI doesn't want to be in the Irish Republic and the Republicans are assholes who cant accept that decision
This 1000%
I believe it's done. I live on the border there is no appetite for it her. We live in the fairest version there has been in 200s of years.
Hard not to get emotional..
Slainte.
We always talk about the last five minutes of the Match.
Who does this suit??
This Scottish guy has a very cool approach 😊
Museum of Free Derry is well worth a visit if you're ever in the city.
Love Your Enemies. God Bless Our Motherland Éireann. ☘️✝️🇮🇪🕊️
I was at IWM London today and saw Craig Murray from these Troubles videos guiding some guests around. I recognised him but couldn’t quite place him and it’s only after he walked by that I realised. I’d have said well done for these videos.
This all started around the time I was just getting to my teens, and it was baffling to me, because I hadn't learned much about Irish history yet--practically nothing. Oddly enough, my finding an Irish Rovers greatest hits album in a garage sale was what started me paying attention to what was going on, especially the song The Orange and the Green. I've always tended to side with the underdog, and that's what I saw the Irish Catholics in Northern Ireland as. Now, I have mixed feelings about the whole thing. I think I understand the POV of the PIRA, but I also see the violence as counterproductive. But I love rebel songs. Bobby Sands wrote Back Home in Derry, and Christy Moore put it to the tune of Gordon Lightfoot's Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald. Oddly, the only copy I have of the song is the Tim Malloys' recording. I need Christy Moore's version, and there's another that I can't think of. Black 47 did a song called Bobby Sands MP...well worth a listen.
I think that, if the protestants had treated the Catholics right in the first place, they wouldn't have feared being in the minority, so they would have been able to be part of Ireland and leave the UK...and the Troubles would have never been. But I'm no expert, and I'm sure some of my sources have spun things to suit their interests. As an atheist, people getting violent over religious differences disgusts me, but this wasn't just about religion, was it?
No not really, not by the later point anyway - it did start as long standing contempt for each other on religious grounds, but it turned into a fight for whether ulster would be a part of the republic or the UK, and then things got very difficult as you still have a British majority and significant Irish minority both effectively trying to wipe each other out and to the British being part of Ireland meant their own homes would no longer be in their own country and the Irish wanted to bring the north into the republic. The IRA was putting up one hell of a fight and the loyalists have made it clear that if the UK relinquishes its sovereignty over the north, there would be full war until either they re-join Britain or declare their own British state in Ireland. So it really did become a mess with no possibility of a resolution that would satisfy both, the UK government wasn't about to betray it's own citizens who were fighting to stay British nor take things too far against the IRA. In the end, thank god everyone basically got tired of the violence and finally stopped it in favour of the status quo except with some representation for the catholic Irish.
It was/is about British colonialism
A conflict In Northern Ireland was inevitable. If Michael Collins was not assassinated, then it is probable that he would have pushed for a United Ireland in the mid 1920’s. Given the relationship between Collins and Churchill following the Treaty negotiations, this could have helped for a (relatively) peaceful transition. Churchill even commented in WM in 1948 that he hoped that one day there would be a United Ireland.
People often think that the turmoil in Northern Ireland was because of religious differences. This is only partly correct. Throughout Irish history, some of Ireland’s greatest republican leaders were Protestants who fought the British Empire for Irish independence.
Those who lived in nationalist areas in Northern Ireland were treated as second class citizens, but many poor and working class Protestants were not treated much better. That it is why the Civil Rights movement had people from both religions. Unionists and loyalists opposed the Civil Rights movement as they argued that this was just a sham used by the IRA to destabilise the region. Again, this was only partly true. The IRA were definitely involved in forming the movement, but at that time they were pursuing a non-violent agenda, hence the reason for the split in the IRA and the formation of the Provisionals in December’69.
@@JamesHall-hj5hc Not Ulster, Northern Ireland. Ulster is one of four Irish Provinces. Ulster is not Northern Ireland and Northern Ireland is not Ulster. Three of the counties of Ulster are in Ireland, the other six were partitioned in 1921.
Partition was the cause of the conflict. The Unionists had demanded Partition and threatened the British Government with all out civil war if their demands were not met. Given that the Unionists/Loyalists had received a shipment of arms from Germany in the weeks just before WW1, the British Government took this threat seriously.
The discrimination against the Nationalist communities led to the formation of the NICRA in the late 1960’s. This followed the UVF declaring war on republicans in 1966 and their killings of two Catholics and one Protestant woman. In ‘69 the UVF began a false flag bombing campaign on both sides of the border. In ‘69, RUC officers entered the home of Samuel Devenney and viciously beat him and his two teenage daughters- he suffered a heart attack and later died. RUC officers beat another Catholic civilian, Frank McCloskey and he also died from his injuries. Patrick Rooney, aged just 9, was also killed in his home in 1969 by the RUC.
Following the split in the IRA in 1969, the main purpose of the Provisionals when they emerged in December’69 was to protect nationalist areas from RUC and loyalist attacks, but they did also commence an offensive campaign and their main goal was to achieve a United Ireland - a goal that 30 years of violence could not achieve.
If Protestants had treated Catholics right in the first place. ? What does that even mean.? Poor Protestants and poor Catholics lived side by side until The Troubles erupted, which were instigated by the sectarian PIRA.
Why are you showing the Provisional IRA moving across the border from the south in your graphics? The PIRA was not an invading force from the Irish Republic. It was very much a Northern Irish organisation with most of it’s leading members and active members also being Northern Irish.
To be fair the loyalists are coming from the sea and I don't think they were a paramilitary group of sea creatures.
The PIRA used cross-border safe havens in the Republic of Ireland to train, hide, store weapons, plan and escape throughout the Troubles.
That graphics shows the identity icon move into the centre when being referred to, displacing the others. I don’t think the designer intended ( or knew) the location to be pertinent. The UVF hover over Donegal 🤔
They literally used to flee over the border so soldiers couldn't get them.
@@diskopartizan0850 You're obviously not familiar with the Silurians, a paramilitary group of sea creatures.
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Aye, cos that has a history of helping lol
Peace was never an option
I expect exactly ZERO controversy and infighting in the comments section.
Well I disagree entirely with your comment.... 🙁
Lots of British people who never learned any Irish history whatsoever explaining everything was the IRA’s fault and their boys could’ve ended it in days if they were allowed to while lots of armchair republicans give their own one eyed account where they rationalise some sh1tty bombing or other. While unionists tell it through their own prism of complete ignorance and adopted victimhood. The usual then.
Wow cool amazing story man! No mention of Genocide - Context -
Fun Fact: The Northern-most part of Ireland is NOT actually in "Northern" Ireland at all. The most Northern part of Ireland is County Donegal, which is part of the Republic of Ireland, sometimes called "the South" by the geographically challenged.
It seems pretty northen to me lol
Fabulous explanation
The streets of Ireland , are Irish streets , they aren’t British streets .
The colonizers are British , but the streets are Irish .
💯💯💯
True It should be Irish Territory, but no violence Should be have If It Was trying to integrate into Ireland.
Pretty sure Brits built those streets
By the way, Irish people played a big role in spreading the empire across the world :)
The only way there could of been a united Ireland back then if the UK government/ military decided not to get involve like they didn't in Rhodesia in Africa.
The violence would have been Civil War then
@@RobertK1993 A civil war wouldn't have lasted 30 years Robbie.
I did my masters IN international human rights law in QUB brutal year tough and strong but nietzsche famously said what doesn't kill you makes you stronger
I got Remington 742 6mm that on wiki says served in this war
Warren point in 1979 was a major revenge for bloody Sunday.
I grew up very close to the Narrow Water Bombing, I remember it well..The groun shking, dust and
rious items slowly falling from the sky.
Bloody Friday..
@@MrBagpipeshorrible times
My neighbor and a very good friend of mine's grandfather was a member of the IRA, and eventually refused a task due to his morals, and was than banned from Ireland, shipped to Canada, and was never allowed back. He later passed in Canada, and his family went back to spread his ashes.
That's pretty harsh. Reminds me of something that happened a few years ago in N. Ireland. A young man who sold some weed was told to stop selling and leave, so he moved to another town...apparently still selling weed, so they went there and murdered him. This struck me as absolutely horrible, especially since, as I understand it, both the IRA and the loyalists were selling drugs to fund their activities. Seems more than a little hypocritical, and certainly an huge overreaction, considering how harmless weed is.
MIght've been worse. Nationalists were murdered by the IRA for less.
@@TheEudaemonicPlague its not hypocrisy, its business. Drug gangs won't tolerate rivals selling drugs on their patch.
A Scotsman watching from Ireland
I went to grad school at UCD, studying early and Mediaeval Irish history.
The saddest part of the troubles is that unlike other wars no matter how much blood was shed it was all meaningless because it would never have been won in blood. It was only ever going to be won in peace.
The IRA benefited from the deaths of innocent catholics and the Unionists benefited from the deaths of protestants as it recruited families to the wasteful bloodshed promoted by both radical groups causing right shit for the majority which were innocent irishmen (along with the innocent english people killed in my own country and town) who just wanted to mind their own business and lives.
Peaceful means had already been tried.
I don't think the PIRA was was ever truly gonna beat the British army. Especially since you had alot of different splinter groups with different interests. So they weren't united.
This is pretty good on the story of the UK military response to the violence in NI. Missing, though, is the root cause, context of the period, international events, and the growing assertiveness of Catholics in NI. Guerilla movements cannot survive in urban environments without tacit support from many in the population. NI had been governed explicitly to favor Protestants sin e its creation in 1921. This was true in the local government, jobs, and the police. Catholics, on the receiving end of this discrimination, were increasingly unwilling to be 2nd class citizens. The arrival of TV, seeing civil rights demonstrations in the US in the 60s growing educational levels, all led to peaceful civil rights marches. The demonstrations were unarmed and peaceful and focused on discrimination in public housing. This was the spark. The time was 1969. The local government controlled by Protestants felt threatened. They responded by banning the demonstrations. Marching continued, and the armed local police ( B Specials) violently suppressed peaceful protesters. The brutal behavior of the NI police enraged the Nationalists/Catholic population. The London government responded by sending in the British army. The great irony of the time was that Catholics initially welcomed the British troops' arrival, believing that the UK military would protect them from the brutal and discriminatory NI police. It became clear in a few months that the military were not there to protect the Nationalists/Catholics. Bloody Sunday in Derry/Londonderry where British troops shot 13 protesters, unarmed, was a seminal moment. The escalation from that point onwards is well described in the video. Quite remarkable is how little of this de facto civil war in the UK, is not taught in schools.
This is the second video in the series
You should watch the first part of the series which goes into at least some of that. Not comprehensively of course, because that requires a hell of a lot longer than 15 minutes. You are absolutely spot on about how this is not taught in British schools however. In my school in Liverpool we did Irish history when I was a teenager, but i reckon that might be the exception rather than the rule.
As a black man I have come to understand how the fight fire with fire mentality will always result in the side fighting AGAINST the bully or ( aggressor, oppressor, etc.) Will be viewed as the one in the wrong.
@@Azog150 Liverpool is probably the most Irish city in all of England by it's heritage and history with the diaspora, so it's certainly understandable
A one-sided take. By the time the UK government sent in the army, the IRA had already murdered literally hundreds of civilians.
@imperial war museum. what ever happened the the VZ50 assault rifle that was an active exhibit from the Ormeau road bookies murders . As the RUC back then said it was destroyed but ended up as an exhibit in your museum but has since disappeared..
Good question.
Mountbatten?
Narrow Water?
Baltic Exchange?
Jack, the Japan Alps Brit
Remember Bloody Sunday.
Some Americans with less Irish DNA than a box of lucky charms will be along shortly to tell you why you are all wrong.
Hey! You weren't so smart when Ireland beat the Black and Tans 36 to nothing!
J. Biden
Lucky charms….😂 seriously I’m from the US and have ancestry from Dublin or so I’m told. Honesty, I can’t say one way or another who is right or wrong. I was fortunate enough to grow up without bombs and violence. I can’t even imagine the horrors that everyone went through. ❤
@@patrickmchenry2217 one side was invaded and occupied by a foreign entity the other side had enough of the second class citizens status in their own country. It’s easy to see who was right and wrong.
@@seaghdhking9122 There are some people from the First Nations here who would like a word...
@@seaghdhking9122 Occupied? When? Not when the independent Irish parliament voted to join the union surely?
I've been living in East Belfast my entire life, it's sorta creepy seeing the run down UVF/UDA murals, it's like a dark reminder of the past, same applies down in the short strand with IRA Murals.
What's the story with migrants? Has northern ireland been invaded like the Republic or Britain?
@@davidgalea6113 makes a change from the west invading there countries 😂
@@IrishRebel23 why are they in our country then? Did we have a colonial Empire? 170k expected for 2023 on a population of 5 million. It's not just lunacy, it's outright treason.
Its amazing the IWM has the remants of an unexloded bomb left in the IWM by the RA.
Ulstersation sounds like the South Vietnamisation of the Americans
"a 14th man will day weeks later"
It was a boy they killed and not the only child they killed that day
( 8:00 ~ Rowan Atkinson certainly led an interesting life. )
Operation Motorman is the biggest omission by the British establishment that Northern Ireland was never an integral part of the UK. The biggest deployment since the Suez. Apply this to Manchester or London " Unthinkable "
66 days without food. Incredible determination
No one ever talks about how it even got to this point.
For 1000 years the English have been trying to oppress the Irish. Even when the vikings ruled England.
So, by your own statement it wasn’t the “English” invading Ireland it was either Scandinavian Vikings or Normans. Unfortunately, the Irish national psyche is built upon hatred of the English. A simple search will tell you the first “English” invasion of Ireland was actually called the “Norman Invasion”. The Normans had conquered, massacred and oppressed the English and within 100 years had continued to invade Wales and Ireland. So, in reality, the English have been oppressed by Norman rulers for far longer than Ireland seeing how we never managed to drive the Normans out and many politicians/lords are direct descendants of Norman invaders with generational wealth. The poor Englishman in the fields, down the mines or chained to his machine in the factory get the full blame when history is quite clear it was a Norman invasion that utilised conquered Englishman as cannon fodder for centuries.
@@ScouserLegend So when the Normans and Vikings legs or assimilated into England....why didn't England just give back what they stole?
@@stiofain88 Because there is a difference between the British Establishment and the English people. The English people want to live our lives peacefully just like any other, the British Establishment is focused on power. The English people stole nothing, and yet we get unjustly blamed for the crimes of a regime who view us with as much disdain as they do any other people they have dominated.
If you know anything about history which I'm guessing you don't it wasn't the English. The English got conquered...
@@ScouserLegend Most English are also descended from Normans. The two peoples have intermixed over the near thousand years since the Norman invasion and there are no ethnic distinctions between Normans and Saxons, just English.
Ive understood the IRA wqs supported by Gadhaffi with weapons and explosives ?
Winston Churchill said the weaver street bombing was one of the worst things that's ever happened but then England forgot about it completely.
England forgot their white as well look at big cities like london, birmingham, etc its like spot the anglo saxons.
Great video, I’m from Derry
So am I.
Londonderry?
Love from Liverpool 🇮🇪
@@gazzy5303 londonistanDerry?
Bobby Sands & the other hunger-strikers earned a lot of respect for the Republicans, internationally.
The word "martyr" is tossed around a lot these days, but these guys were the real-deal.
Sands and the hunger strikers were hypocrites. They cared so much about their own human rights but never gave a toss about the human rights of their victims.
Sorry, but tanks were never used in NI. So your comment at 3.20 is incorrect.
I remember watching this as a child. Something for everyone to lookup regarding this: google how did the Irish die when they grew so much food. That’ll tell you what is happening here as well
The troubles caused by the UK as per history, still going.
Those streets aren’t British.
Built and maintained with British taxes.
Irish streets now belong to Brussels
Their not for Catholic Terrorists either 😂
Im American and lived for a year in Ireland, and visited Belfast several times. I'm obviously not an expert, but to me what the Troubles really boiled down to was poverty. 🤷♀️
Looked like a sterling made AR18 to me. Good vid.
You are probably correct. From all accounts I've read, most to all of the AR-18's discovered were British made. I'd love to know the back story on how the IRA for their hands on them. A whole bunch of USD would be my guess.
Weren’t Adam’s and co fully compromised and working for MI5, Adam’s was confronted on this and went into meltdown before scurrying away in terror.
Maybe it's just me, but I feel as though Northern Ireland/UK did everything they could to keep escalating the conflict.
It's almost as if they didn't want it to end.
That's coming from an outsider, but I do side with Ireland on this one. It's their land, the Brits have no business there.
The Irish government classifies the IRA as terrorists as well.
Interesting video. Just a lot of information. All good though.
You cannot take the Irish Catholic out of your soul ☘️♥️