Living through the Troubles in Northern Ireland
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- Опубликовано: 2 май 2023
- For thirty years, the citizens of Northern Ireland lived through the Troubles. Many were born into the conflict, and never knew anything else. By the 1980s, the situation was getting worse not better, and violence was escalating. With devastating attacks such as the Remembrance Sunday bombing in 1987 and killings at two funerals in 1988, public weariness of the conflict drove forward peace talks. Gerry Adams and John Hume began to meet in secret and by the early 1990s, it appeared that peace might be within reach. In the third episode of our series on the Troubles, we look at what was it like to live through this conflict, and - just as the situation seemed impossible - how the two sides finally came together for negotiations.
Watch the rest of our Troubles series:
Episode 1 - Origins: • Why the Troubles start...
Episode 2 - Escalation: • How the Troubles becam...
Episode 3 - Division: • Living through the Tro...
Episode 4 - Peace: • How do you end a 30-ye...
Behind the scenes of our exhibition - • Designing the Troubles...
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Gerry Adams and John Hume via Belfast Telegraph
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Gerry Adams, Albert Reynolds and John Hume via Independent.ie
Ireland Unfree Mural via Guinnog
From Conflict to Peace Mural via ManfredHugh
Londonderry Mural via Ktoma
No Surrender Mural via Fribbler
Thanks for watching! Please remember to be polite in the comments. Any comments that we consider to be offensive or aggressive will be removed.
Watch the rest of our Troubles series:
Episode 1 - Origins: ruclips.net/video/IHLYeBtGvOg/видео.html
Episode 2 - Escalation: ruclips.net/video/fGo17SIvMRM/видео.html
Episode 4 - Peace: ruclips.net/video/F5RlWxirYYM/видео.html
Behind the scenes of our exhibition - ruclips.net/video/l5szVTilBEo/видео.html
Why did you rename the title?
There was nothing "self imposed" about it. What revisionist nonsense. "Northern Ireland" was literally founded to be an apartheid statelet.
the trouble with the Troubles is that they werent troubles ..did you know that rome and london and worse still dublin held that native born irish people were subhuman slaves untill 1990 .. you can remove this if you want but it is also an absolute fact that the Hooded men trial in the european court of human rights was demmed acceptable behaviour ..fair dues to the crown court in london during lockdown they found it was dehumanising animalistic behaviour . Dublin Government are fighting bravely for hate speech at the moment so they can be Gods of their magick they learnt in scottish freemason ppig training clubs .. i have absolute evidence of a supergrass trial in Galway during lockdown so I dont care what you thinkk .. Brexit prooves all british victorian acts of parliaments are null and void ina court of davids harp in "eirie" 9correct spellng erin but actually if ya want the raabid rabbi version haran .. laters and thanks for the archive stuff ..
This series is fantastic. I'm old enough to be vaguely aware of the violence in the 90s, my parents talked about it, but overall I had no idea what the Troubles were about.
Lack of intergration and same aphreid educated schools, never do they mix with other kids whole childhood.
It's very pro-british, none of their videos mention what the British Army did
The show Derry girls is great but the opening scene where the parents are annoyed because a bomb threat was called in at the bridge the kids need to cross to go to school shows just how normalized the situation was
Derry Girls is fantastic lol, Uncle Colm is my spirit animal! 🤣
@@wofutokerati lol, so true
It's a comedy show, not a historical documentary
That was life back then in certain areas of NI.
‘The troubles’ were a terrible time. So thankful it’s over.
Love your work 👍
Dream on, it is not over! Tell that to the Ukrainians while Russia defiles their country!
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You could say they're pretty troubling.
i work with a guy who was a soldier between 76 and 86 and he was stationed in northern Ireland in 1979 . some of the stories hes told me are amazing !!
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Another great production. I am truly learning a lot from your hard work. Thank you.
Thanks so much for this series, I never knew too much about the troubles or how significant the good friday agreement was/is. I have learnt a lot over the past few weeks due to these videos.
As an American I always knew the troubles was a complex period of Irish history but I never realized how multifaceted it truly was and that in reality it was happening not that long ago is shocking.
That's why it was ridiculous for Americans to go round collecting money for the IRA (a terrorist organisation) and smuggle weapons to Northern Ireland, when they didn't understand the whole issue.
Not many americans are willing to admit this so props to you. should be proud you are trying to educate yourself on a horrific subject matter that so many irish-americans try talk about without realising the complexity, pain and only somewhat conclusion (though this has never really happened). americans try butt in, twisting it into a simple up-yours story of an underdog ireland against britain without knowing anything of the subject matter, which i find sickening.
Its STILL happening now...maybe not to the same level but as long as the british govt and crown lay claim to Nothern IRELAND it will NEVER end...the Provisional I.R.A may be quiet at the moment but it has NOT gone away nor has it been "defeated"....also there are splinter groups such as the "Real" I.R.A. and the "Continuity" I.R.A.
The British were the real terrorists. Shooting protesters and bringing in internment.
@@DaChaGee let me guess your British ?
And it’s ok for Britain to sell its arms & create mass genocide,
Is this your rationale ?
The Troubles started when I was a child and continued into my young adulthood. As a child then living in England, I grew up with the impression that the big problem was the IRA, and only as an adult did I realise that the situation was far more complex and nuanced. Was this the media? Was it politicians? Or was it just that the Unionist terrorists never attacked Britain?
I eventually travelled to NI in 2019 for a holiday and gained new perspectives and understanding. The most memorable, thought-provoking and moving visit was a walk along the Derry Walls with the Antony Gormley sculpture and an information board about an ugly military watchtower, now thankfully demolished.
In the different communities that I visited, the people were mostly very friendly, but I felt a degree of uneasiness in some areas where kerbstones, lamp posts etc. were painted red, white and blue - they were “my” colours, but I felt that they were being used in a passive aggressive way at odds with my own feelings. Against my expectations, I felt rather safer in the more Republican areas.
If you're community had been terrorized since the Gaelic Invasion and murdered,ethnic cleansed areas of your country and your people for hundreds and hundreds of years. Would you not want to protect your community? I'm not saying it's right to mark territory or to have intimidating signs within the community. But you can understand people in our community was sick of being slaughtered and felt that marking territory was a way to keep the community safe.
It would have been a very different story had you be around during the troubles those lampposts would have looked like heavens gates to you in comparison 😂
I’m a bit younger than you so for me the troubles are mostly a part of history rather than something I was aware of as being current. I was over in Derry for work a couple of years ago and had a quick walk around the city wall in the evening- I had a very similar experience/realisation at the watchtower.
@@loyalistculture9495 What or when was the Gaelic Invasion? That's a term I haven't heard before so I'm intrigued.
@@shiteguides you won't get an answer because it didn't happen
I am so glad that peace came to the people of northern Ireland and what was a very complex issue to untangle was finally made at least, most part of the way resolved. I have spent a lot of time in northern Ireland, mostly in Belfast as my missus was from there. I first started going over in the early 80s and I can honestly say that today, the place has changed beyond all recognition and for the better thank God.
there is no real and genuine peace, more peace walls have gone up since the GFA, paramilitaries still exist on both sides, sectarianism is ingrained in our society with an attempt at ethnic cleansing happening in lurgan there a few days ago where 2 loyalists attempted to boot down a 21 year old single mums door because they’re nationalist, our schools are still divided and widespread violence is constantly being threatened, people love to talk about how “progressive” and “peaceful” the north is but i live here and can say with confidence there is so much more that needs done, that being said it is an incredible achievement at the fact that widespread and daily terrorism is a thing of the past but please realise this is place is far from truly peaceful.
Peace hasn't come to N.I.
Lol there's nothing complex about it. The british came in and annexed their land. It's no different than what russia did to Crimea yet when someone else does it then it's a problem
I grew up through the troubles and people there in NI are enjoying a life style that i would have never thought possible in 1972. A great place to visit and not as expensive as the South but hey ho...no border ... and motorways now. Ireland is a friendly place perhaps because we have got very little of anything else !
Enjoyed this thanks for sharing
It is shocking that schools are still segregated and the barriers still in place between communities. My boss is from Belfast, I asked him about all this and he said he hated it and wanted no part of it but the only way to do that was what he did ie move to England.
Then he lied because most of us live like normal people anywhere else with little to no division but that doesn’t make a good news sorry does it?
Schools are not actually "segregated" although this is a common misconception.
There are state run schools, schools run by the Catholic church and "integrated" schools.
Yes the majority of students in state schools are not from the Catholic community and the majority of students in the Catholic schools are indeed Catholic but the schools and the education system are not segrated and never have been, it's up to parents which school they chose to send their kids to.
@@johnnyralib4008 for God's sakes man, You go back to school and brush up on your spelling..
Very informative.
Our Government in Ireland wouldn’t even let us listen to Gerry Adams. Twas against the Law for our Media to interview him.
Brilliant video.
I was born 1982 in England and it was normal to hear on the news
(a police officer or soldier found a bomb under his car today)
In fairness the English press would be right to hang their heads in shame at the slanted and yellow (so called) journalism it has always engaged in as regards anything/everything to do with Ireland. And that's a shameful thing for the press and government to have done to the good people of England.☘️
I was lucky enough to visit Northern Ireland. I went in with my my presumptions. Going to Falls Road and Shankhill I was astonished how friendly and accommodating each side was. I hope to get back there again.
I still remember the words of my dad's Irish friend when talking to his mom;
Mom: You named your second son Brandon?! Thats a catholic name! You're unbelievable!
George: Mom it doesn't matter here in Canada, its different! Im not in Ireland anymore!
This broke my little 12-year-old heart and mind, realizing how good we have it here.
The walk that man described going from the Markets over the Queens or Albert Bridge road then along the Lower Newtownards Road and into East Belfast... for me as a Protestant in 1972 -76 was a "thunder run" , I did that same route nights when there were no busses .. would not have done it if I was a Catholic ... love conquers all... PEACE
A balanced documentary ,yes there was a huge amount of violence to say the least .Fortunately there were some very brave men who also had forethought and wisdom and who struggled to bring a sort of peace to the land . I do hope that in the near future it's only gets better for future generations ,as each and everyone of them deserves it .
Hume was middle man
Gerry and cohorts after 800-ice age residence shouts lets get the brits out when all were Irish brits until 1922
@@joprocter4573 my ancestors were never “brits”. And all the people on this Ireland , unionists included, described themselves as Irish until the Troubles. It’s no credit to SF and the IRA that their actions led to unionists and loyalists denying the geographical reality of where they live. The renaissance of the Irish language and Gaelic sports in east Belfast is heartening. Slán go fóill.
"a sort of peace" A generous way of putting it
@@owenlindkvist5355 More like actual peace, considering IRA bombings and attacks have virtually ceased since the Good Friday Agreement.
Not balanced at all and the peace is set to fail with power sharing
I grew up in NI as a teenager during the worst of the troubles. I left to go to Wales when I was 17.Witbin 6 months all the prejudice I had was gone. The issues with NI, even in 2024 the old are passing on the hatred. It'll never end until this stops.
Again very interesting, but where did the Loyalist weaponry come from? It says the IRA's weapons came from the US and Libya but only says "from abroad" for the Loyalists.
The British Army were the main source of Loyalist weapons until the 80s.
They had older but limited stockpiles dating back to WW2. Then it was a combination of theft from UDR barracks, fabrication of weapons and ultimately the intelligence corps giving them weapons that had been seized from Republican groups. They will have certainly made straw purchases in the US just like PIRA did. These days they just buy them on the black market where every other criminal does which is mostly eastern Europe and the Balkans.
and also Lebanon.
MI5, the RUC, apartheid south africa and “israel” to name a few
The UVF had to buy guns from the black market, steal them an make them.
It was only later in 87 that they got a major arms shipment.
You should do a video documenting how the weapon (apparently destroyed) used to murder 5 innocent people from my area ended up in the london museum. Really interested to watch that
Thank you for the education into a complex history
It’s a wee bit “one sided” tbh
@@senanshortt5521 how so
@@2229JMAN just look at the thumbnail "a self imposed aparthid" it doesnt adress the extent of the british opression and makes them seem like a passive force rather than the active opressors they where.
@@2229JMAN no talk about mi5 buying South African aks and setting up the first uda death squadron to hunt nationalists.
No talk about sas safe houses that we find in the republic used to torture civilians and change barrels to deny shooting civilians we found another last year close to the border
@@2229JMANsome of the previous videos haven't been fully transparent with the truth. This one wasn't so bad.
The civil rights marches which were the genesis of Sinn Fein and the IRA where a last gasp cry for equal rights and the end to apartheid against Catholics. It was extremely difficult to get a house or decent job if you were catholic. Also you required twice the number of people to vote for you in a catholic area to get an elected representative. It was completely gamed against any member of the minority religion. It is sold as a religious conflict but it was more about equal rights. Which is an issue Perfidious Albion did not want to deal with. After all they had an issue with Rhodesia, South Africa and the Caribbean. Also left over issues from the empire. So the Apartheid was much older than the troubles. Just to clarify.
Failed to mention that Protestants and Catholics got along so well in most parts of the country. On the falls road and the shankhill the housing situation was the same. Hence why Protestants/Unionist/Loyalists got so mad when they seen these "civil rights" marches because they were living no different to them.
True. It wasn’t just catholic against protestant. That’s how the media sold it. They got a few things wrong in this show like the loyalist arms coming from Libya and all public housing being segregated. Yeah, in Belfast but where I grew up in Lisburn we were neighbors. Some town though we’re on side or the other. The unionist politicians wanted to hold onto power and used the Protestant working class to do their dirty work and bred fear by telling them the Catholics wanted to take away their culture etc. thank god for loyalist leaders like Ervine, Spence, McMichael
@@loyalistculture9495 but that wasn’t really the case tho, the troubles started when a Catholic family was denied a house over a single young Protestant women, not exactly “living no different” now is it, to me that’s a case of inequality
@@loyalistculture9495 just not true though is it? Well documented that catholics were second class citizens and treated differently to Protestants.
What is it with loyalism and completely ignoring well known facts?
Nonsense. We live in a democracy. Everyone has equal rights. If you felt and discrimination you take disputes through the normal legal process. You irish are not educated it seems.
That finished the provisionals just about it shocked even hardliners.
7:45 - contrary to popular belief, the soldiers did not enter the funeral area out of spite, or malice but to get a viewing as one of the soldiers was new to N.Ireland. The fact of the matter is, a number of supposed IRA, or high ranking Nationalist stopped their motor and approached them and gave them complete and fair warnings to leave the area - the IRA knew what would happen with such a crowd, especially after why the funerals had to take place. This does NOT excuse the blatant murder of two innocent men, but there was warnings well in advance, directly from Nationalist/Republicans in attendance.
The reasons why they continued, is unknown but likely out of intrigue. Brandishing their firearm was the straw that broke the camels back. Regardless, no one (from either side) should have been murdered on that day, or the days prior. RIP to all involved and all those who lost their lives during this horrible period of OUR shared history.
-From a person of a protestant community, who lost a 14 year old relative to an IRA bomb - I have grown up, its 2023, not 1973. Peace and prosperity is what we require.
They were from the Special Reconnaissance Unit, also known as the 14 Field Security and Intelligence Company (aka "The Det") . As usual, these Units thought they knew better than the locals and everyone else paid the price for it.
Another video from the Imperial War Museum on the period of the troubles and still no mention of the VZ58 rifle which ended up in one of its displays. The source of the rifle linking back to a series of attacks on catholic/republicans. In one case where a second weapon was was given to the loyalist paramilitaries by a British soldier at an army barracks.
There is very little highlighting of the British state collusion with loyalist paramilitaries
The Czech weapons came from Libya. Originally supplied to PIRA. They were not above killing each other in power struggles and they murdered a lot of other Catholics as well. Or it was one of the many weapons seized from PIRA that were then placed in one of the caches of illicit arms kept by the Int Corps and used for targeted murder. Being forensically linked to both sides you will never know who pulled the trigger. Which is the whole point. Recycling the weapons made PIRA members turn on each other and mistrust each other.
@@zoiders divide and conquer. The usual imperial strategy.
@@Oluinneachain And yet strangely they never had to be encouraged to inform on each other for money like Judas.
That last sentence is spot on, look up the attack on Sean Graham’s bookmakers, five people were killed there with weapons that were given to the UDA/UFF by the police.
@@zoidersThe VZ 58 assault rifles were imported by loyalist terroristis "Protestant Action Force" = UVF.
British agents were informed or even active in the shipments.
Where did the VZ50 go that was part of the Northern troubles display in your museum. As has since disappeared but was once said to have been destroyed by the the RUC but was part of the murder investigation into the Ormeau road bookies murders.. I guess like many other things no answer..
I gotta LOVE the old British FAL, the L1A1. Fine looking thing, that rifle.
It is funny and sad at the same time that both sides are ready to talk, and it only takes one man, one lorry and one bomb to f it all up...
That was definitively the point. They were trying to give northern Ireland to the English and he tried to stop it.
It’s like the near peace between Israel and Palestine in the 90’s
@@jtgd That just scratching the surface of that completely separate situation.
@@achair7265 The civil war was born out of the civil rights movement not religion. Press back to translating Nationalists = Catholics
It was usally British government ingorance that f'd it all up.
Thank you for sharing
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I was a child during these times, hard times, lots of exlosions
I never understood how a third option for a fully independent Northern Ireland never emerged. Not part of Ireland, not part of the UK, an independent nation guiding its own future without having to take order from neither London nor Dublin.
Genuinely do appreciate the levels of education these videos bring, but I'd ask that you do address the concerns arouns state collusion and crown forces involvement in loyalist or unionist paramilitary organisations. Both Britain and Ireland have questions to answer over their (at best) tacit support of paramilitaries during the troubles
What tacit support did the Irish government/state ever show/give to the republican paramilitaries?
@@Oluinneachain Would you like a list? Let's start with setting up field hospitals just the other side of the border prior to PIRA campaigns. Their tactics were a hybrid. Unrest and rioting would be instigated and that would be coupled with direct targeted attacks by active service units. The field hospitals operated by the IDF mysteriously sprang up when these offensives were in the planning stage. That is collusion.
You speak to any loyalist paramilitary who was around during the troubles and say the British govt gave them support and they’d laugh in your face! Thousands of loyalists were imprisoned during the troubles.
Was there individual soldiers and policemen who were loyalists? Absolutely. Was it “state policy” to side with loyalist? Absolutely not. Loyalists were reduced to making their own weaponry. Was London sending literal boat loads of munitions to loyalists? Like Libya did with the PIRA? No they weren’t.
You should perhaps read about how the IRA were able to arm themselves with weapons for the border campaign during the 50s/60s. The exact same way loyalists were able to steal weapons from the British Army. They had sympathisers within the Army. How do you think the PIRA latterly got their intelligence on where policemen and soldiers and other civil servants lived to murder them? Through collusion with individuals within the civil service.
The only organisation armed and funded by any state. Was the Provisional IRA. Funded and armed by the Libyan and Irish governments.
@@Oluinneachain 😂 their refusal to extradite wanted republican terrorists. The arms trials of the early 70s. Garda collusion with PIRA terrorists.
Collusion? The sort of collusion that seen the British state convict more Loyalist Paramilitary members than Republican?
What about all the attempts of Loyalists trying to steal weaponry and UDR/RUC/British Army intercepting them and most often capturing back all the weaponry stole
Thank god i never lived through the troubles. Herd a lot about it from my parents and how all those people lived through each day i dont know
"How will peace be reached?"
Same as it ever was...through justice.
No justice, no peace.
Cogadh fada.
I imagine the Palestinians and Israelis would disagree with your stance.
We have had long and bloody ear - 800 years of burying the best of us and we know from hard experience that the efforts toward cooperation and understanding are worth the work they entail.
No long war.No short war. No more war.✌🏼🌍
Nothing says division like a nice, thick wall. (Taps the wall)
Wheres the vz58 that was an active murder exhibit from the ormeau road bookies murders. Ruc said it was destroyed but ended up in yiur museum..
I think a lot of Americans of Irish descent like myself tend to have a romantic view of the IRA. I think the reality is much different. This video is very informative. Thank you!
Nothing romantic about murdering innocent men, women and children. Nothing romantic about strapping a man inside a car full of explosives and forcing him to drive into a BA checkpoint.
Im English born of Irish RCs and it was veryhard for me growing up i had republican sympathies but was proud to be British.
Amazing it took 9/11 for the USA to waken up to terrorism. 🇬🇧 as a 70 year the pain of terrorism never leaves you.
All of the videos on this channel about the troubles are pro-british, they don't mention collusion between the British Army and Loyalist paramilitaries or the children shot dead by the British Army. Or Bloody Sunday, Ballymurphy and Springhill that caused support for the IRA to soar. The Remembrance Day bomb was intented for British soldiers and the IRA apologised and disbanded the unit who did it
@caroline8785 where were you raised budd.
I grew up during this and remember these events well. I remember at our high school during an assembly they said to us about the ceasefire and what it could mean. Army and police check points where a common site.
For context I work in Belfast, and I park my car in a certain street. If I was to do that 30 plus years ago I would more than likely end up being shot going to and from my work.
You can't start a documentary programme of Ireland without starting at Start, it's like watching the last five minutes of a Cup Final, and trying to debate the full Game.
Britain has no place in Ireland.
These are the facts of the matter.
How is Ireland now today?
Does anything like the past there still go on like everywhere else can be?
Nothing like the past anymore
Sounds like Jamaica from the mid 70's to mid 80's. However, in Jamaica there were alot more guns than bombs.
Very sad saga, all of it.
4:20 although the bomb making materials were found in a car in Spain?
I looked it up. Wtf is going on. Is this crucial to the story or is Spain a part of this? I'm confused
Very crucial as this few weeks brought about near civil war
Ira suspects shot in Spain, allegedly on way to bomb Gibraltar. Caused a big stink. British govt executing Irish nationals in Spain.
@@johnnydonaghy6096 I always thought it was a near total irrelevance but then I'm from England. What war did it nearly bring about? England v Spain (seems unlikely) or what?
Remember it well! ..
😢 Troubleshooting
The Enniskillen bombing is for me poignant in a tangential, personal way. My grandmother was from there. She was raised Catholic, but her dad was a Protestant Englishman from Hampshire who died at the Somme. Brought up in Canada, she didn't have a big stake in the Troubles (she married a Protestant Scots immigrant herself), and the dad she lost as a little girl haunted her all her life. It's not hard for me to imagine her at that Remembrance Day ceremony in Enniskillen, if she hadn't been safely in Montreal instead.
Wow I can’t believe these “people” planted a bobm at a remembrance day service. ???
I didn’t know that.
You should watch the footage of the Corporal Killings. It shows clearly the type of "people" they are.
Amazing documentary! I started to study conflicts in world. Northern Ireland is one of the main topics on the book I'm reading (it's a high school Brazilian geography book)
I've never heard about those violent acts. Maybe media didn't expose it as much as when it's made by Islams groups.
I lived through it
Hello how are you and things over there?
Did the IRA have control over splitter groups ie PIRA groups. on the loyalists side who had control of their paramilitaries? it seemed to deescalate after 20 years when the politicians discussed and introduced realistic and workable strategy to start a peace agreement. Ridiculous suffering and terrible loss of humanity over several decades. In 1972 peace talks could have gone a much further if both parties worker harder at the negotiations I have been told.
Most of these videos refer to the troubles as a one off. But they were an explosion of frustration against the discrimination suffered by the nationalist community. The British government in London did nothing about this. They effectively collaborated in the discrimination against the nationalist community
Very little mention of violence committed by British state forces and collaboration between state forces and loyalist paramilitaries. Also all violence is not equal. Loyalists paramilitaries would go out of their way to kill civilians and the PIRA would at least to some extent target RUC, British army, etc.
Good man Kevin !
PIRA had no qualms about dishing out violence to Catholics. The involvement of the security services has been mentioned in other videos and I am sure there will be more to come but please don't regurgitate propaganda that has been proven to be false.
The british have been responsible for many atrocities around the world with 0 accountability.
The PIRA machine gunned Protestants in Churches. Blew bus loads of Protestant workers to pieces. Murder Protestant pensioners by the half dozen at a time.
What tripe are you talking about? They were responsible for the sectarian slaughter of hundreds of Protestant civilians.
And yet, the PIRA were responsible for the murder of over 700 civilians. So either their aim was awful or they deliberately murdered innocents.
I am an American but 50% percent Irish. I believe that Ireland is one country and that the violence is a sad result of the so-called politicians supposedly working for the "people and that is false. For me Ireland is one country and should always be such. My father-in-law was born and raised in Kinawley in Swadlinbar. He had friends who were Protestants and they were fine but again for me 26+6 =1 country. Sorry...I just feel that way. Peace and love to all. ☘
Thank you for this documentary. I didn’t know much about the bigger picture. Interestingly, having lived in Boston, USA, Whitey Bulger and his support for the IRA seemed to come to an end as a new generation law enforcement and the end of the Cold War came.
Yeah the end of the cold war is v important there was and still is a significant comunist presence in the IRA and part of the reason the Brits worked so hard to stamp them out was a fear of them starting a comunist uprising
@@iandonnelly6684 That is not true. Sinn Fein certainly had links with far left wing groups in Europe but the PIRA them self were almost entirely Catholic Nationalists that could be described as Falangist. Don't get your information on The Troubles from the fiction written by Tom Clancy.
@@zoiders Gerry Adams claimed Sinn Fein/IRA were Socialist on live tv during a friendly interview on the Late Late Show in Dublin. So I got my information from the primary source.
The British certainly have a lot to answer for. Not only in Ireland but worldwide
When talking about modern Ireland, one thing that needs to be mentioned was how a Protestant Irish Parliament successfully gained independence for Ireland between 1782 and 1800, during which time Catholics got most of their rights back, with most Irish people of different faiths uniting under the ideologies of either constitutionalism or Republicanism, with both in favour of varying degrees of Irish sovereignty/autonomy and increased personal rights.
This independence ended when a failed Republican Revolution in 1798 led British prime minister William Pitt to intimidate and bribe the Irish Parliament into merging the Kingdom Ireland into the UK after an initial Union vote failed. Ireland’s Parliament was forced to merge with The British one (though the courts and civil service of Ireland remained separate, but nominally subject to Westminster from now on).
People on both sides seem to have completely forgotten this chapter in Irish history, because Protestants and Catholics fighting together for an independent Irish Kingdom doesn’t fit anyone’s narrative, and yet it had a major impact on the island. Unionism, Republicanism and Constitutionalism all originate from the original Irish volunteers that used the opportunity of the American Revolution distracting Britain to revolt in 1782. This heralded the independence and has shaped all aspects of Irish politics ever since.
I wouldn't call the Irish Parliament "independence for Ireland". The vast majority of the population were Catholic and they were placed under penal laws, no Catholic could run for office and the very same Anglo Irish oversaw the "Protestant Ascendancy".
Plus Irish Republicans never forgot the Protestant Irishmen that started United Irishmen, who led Home Rule and founders of the Irish Republic. The colour Orange is in a flag as a tribute to them.
@@icemanire5467The penal laws were imposed on catholics by Cromwell as retribution for the attempted genocide of English and Scottish settlers during the 1641 rebellion where over 200,000 were murdered.
Strangely it was the protestants who actually repealed these laws against the catholics.
I understand the troubles I paid attention while it was going on and read quit about it in recent years.
I realize that the British super power decided to impose its will on the Irish, a people who I consider Holy!
The Irish kindly put the super power back in its place. Go on home and don't come back!
I understand Bal athaclath and the hard border problems, and they finally got rid of that. So the oppression somewhat existe but it's liveable apparently or I believe we would hear about it.
I am proud to know the Irish a people who's principles mean something to them. A people who will not lay down and put up with tyranny. How can anyone not respect this?
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Born on lower shanked road, I don’t remember much, but have seen enough to know mind my business, nothing to do with me,
Why does man got to pick up sticks against another man, instead of using them sticks to prop a man up?
Tugg Speedman
Second class citizenship in a single party sectarian state, what could possibly go wrong?!
The loyalist arms were not smuggled in from Lebanon. They were smuggled in from South Africa. The percentage of public housing being segregated was exaggerated . That was just in Belfast and Derry. Most towns were mixed to a certain degree
They actually did come in from Lebannon. The deal was done with the South Africans, who outsourced it to an American arms dealer in Switzerland who subcontracted it to a Lebanese contact who sourced weapons that had been used during the Lebanese civil war. These were shipped from Lebanon.
@@craigs4647 I stand corrected
I thought the same thing about South Africa with the IRA.
I think this is very interesting, although it does not quite explain the whole story and is one sided towards the loyalist community.
No sound?
even with these peace walls collusion allowed sponsored killers through to do their dirty work and get home safely
How about speaking voices? Let's say you and I were born and raised in Belfast by families who were also Belfast natives, and we grew up only three or four blocks away from each other but on opposite sides of the barriers that separate Catholic from Protestant neighborhoods. In this event, would you and I have different accents that could be readily identified by others?
As someone born and raised in Belfast during the troubles, no it wasn't an accent. There may have been a way of speaking and inflec ion of certain letters that could be taken as an identifier. But there was nothing concrete. If in the 'wrong' area you would be approached for not being known. You would need a good cover story to get out without at least a beating.
Not how it worked. It was all about faces. Much like gangs in housing projects in the US cities the paramilitaries in Belfast used kids as sentries and watchers known as "Dickers" and if your face does not fit you will be pointed out to the local hard men and questions will be asked. A lot of Americans think of the Republican paramilitaries as being like the French Resistance when in reality they were/are far more like the type of organised criminals depicted in The Sopranos or The Wire. They operate the same way and they regularly murder each other over money, power and personal grudges stemming from paranioa. The Loyalists are exactly the same.
@@boraeananaren8752 a favourite 'tactic' if questioning an unknown person in a particular area, would be to talk about football and what team you supported. Kind of tell me you're a Protestant/Catholic without telling me you're a Protestant/Catholic....
It was mostly your first name that gave it away. Usually if you could put a Saint in front of your name you were Catholic. ie Michael, Peter, John, Patrick etc. Names like Derek, Ian, William nearly always Protestant. No difference in accents but maybe different slang words in different areas. Catholics called Protestants "Huns" and Protestants called Catholics "Taigs". I grew up on the Falls during Troubles and never had an ounce of hatred for anyone. Religion should be a private thing between yourself and God. Full stop.
The letter H was said differently 😂
monotheism. zealotry. the nation-state. greed.
individually dangerous.
in combination, deadly.
4:20 If you find a bomb, run sloppily. Don’t warn anyone! Distract nearby people by not getting to the point
🇮🇪🇺🇸. A very sad history with a beautiful country and people and a very sensitive topic. One acquaintance I knew grew up in East Belfast. He knew of someone he kept saying was fifteen that passed in one of these horrific tragedies. I hope the island truly becomes United one day and everyone can live peacefully.
Only a yank would make such a ridiculous statement.
A “united” Ireland has never existed. If it were indeed to occur. The island would be far from peaceful.
Aye sure disregard want one side of the conflict want that’s worked out so well in our history before 😂
I know people that say they will rise from their graves to join the struggle if Ireland is ever united. The demographics are headed that way but it's likely to cause major problems if it ever happens.
Then you've missed the point completely if you're saying that. Half the country wanted and still does want to remain part of the UK. So a United Ireland wouldn't have brought peace. (I have because there is relative peace now. Dublin and Liverpool and Birmingham and so on are probably more dangerous now just with the gangs). All that would happen with a unified Ireland is the prods kicking off instead. Not to mention the Republic of Ireland generally tend not to like NI on average.
To simplify the issue to "unity" is a gross misunderstanding of what went on.
The UDA & UVF where receiving weapons with the help of the British forces and agencies
"The troubles" the nice term for civil war because the truth is uncomfortable. Peace walls are still locked every night. Its a beautiful country full of beautiful people. We have moved on from the butchers. It began over civil rights not religion. But I do understand the need to try to whitewash history
Interesting how they didnt list the country that armed loyalist paramilitaries like they with the ira. They got theirs from South Africa. ..... as for the soliders killed at funnel, it pretty clear they were miliary intelligence.
Would you expect anything else? When have the brits ever taken any accountability
No they didn’t 😂 The particular weapons shipment named came from the Middle East. Almost all of it was uncovered by the same forces who apparently were in collision with loyalists.
@getouttadatgarden 😂😂😂 were you not there when David Cameron apologized to Bloody Sunday to the cheers of the Nationalist crowd? Meanwhile you have good old Gerry Adams who claims he was never in the IRA. Nice accountability there Gerry.
The Israelis also supplied loyalist terrorists, some Unionist politicians were even photographed training on Israeli firing ranges. The next biggest supplier of weapons to the loyalist terrorists was the British forces themselves.
What anyone on this platform have to state their opinions is ok however the absolute fact without a doubt is that the British government with support from Scotland and Wales have were totally onboard with the English policy, now that chicken has come home to roost,i hope you people are happy now
Oppression alone cant explain why the Catholic community resorted to armed terrorism and certainly doesn't explain why protestants took up arms. Lots of countries at the time had civil rights movements and quassi-aparthied situations like for instance America, but there wasn't 20,000 bombings in Alabama. However in north Ireland both communities have an intense cultural glorification of violence, anyone who visits Belfast can see for themselves as evidence by the murals to armed groups.
There has been a history of political violence in ireland, before the United States existed. What other countries have had similar situations?
The difference being that the African American community 100% had right on their side. The unwavering moral authority of the civil rights movement in the 1960s meant that they did not have to resort to bombing. You might note though that their opponents and oppressor did use terror on a daily basis. Lynching. Murder. Fire bombs. Extra judicial killings by the police. They sent the National Guard into Detroit and they fired on civillian homes with heavy machine guns. Just because its the state doing it it doesn't mean its not terrorism.
@@dowdallerno1 Israel and Palestine or simply the holy land. The Balkans. Definitely large sums of Africa.
There mightve been had Alabama has a friendly country next door, and a wealthy, politically powerful expat population .. to fund it.
@@achair7265 the Israeli state has only come into existence in the last 80 years. The war in the Balkans happened in the 90s. There has been on and off violence and genocide in Ireland for the last 800 years. Every conflict is different and unique.
"The Troubles" would never have occurred if the Brits had not invaded, colonised and ethnically cleansed the country.....
No mention of the atrocities commited by the British army
They were covered in the earlier videos.
Religion: humanity's handbrake for the last 10,000 years.
Amazes me that people who slaughtered children and mostly innocent people, talk about 'rights'.
Page 1 lesson 1 it was not about religion
It's interesting to plot the yearly death rate during the troubles against economic indicators like inflation rate.
I think general economic hardship had a lot to do with creating the situation where violence should spread.
The only problem with that is, the entire UK was suffering, but they didn't turn to terrorism.
While there was not terrorism there was most certainly unrest in a many deprived areas. Read up on the Toxteth riots for instance. The rioting both in NI and in Britain concerned Thatcher more than the actual terrorism. Its easy to demonise a terror group, its much harder to tell tell an entire community they are wrong. At the height of The Troubles Thatcher was merrily going about dismantling British industry and smashing the unions, she was destroying whole communities. The tactics she used in NI were then used against workers in Britain.
And the other problem is we're all suffering economically now. Will NI return to violence?
They didn't have 800 years of sectarian repression either.
There was no apartheid in N.I.
Ok, but are we also going to talk about the many loyalist bombings?
2 soldiers pulled from the car were from the Forces Research Unit aka FRU based at Aldergrove Airport. They were on an observation mission and didn't just accidently wander on to the scene of a well advertised republican funeral.
dont blame the governer
“A self imposed apartheid”
...what? England’s politics literally started the whole thing centuries ago.
I'm a quarter Irish American yet I'm a protestant and my wife's a catholic. My dad was a practicing jew who became a protestant. Yet our families get along spectacularly😊
You know that claiming to be a part Irish is incredibly irritating to us right?
No such thing as an Irish American
It was a war not troubles.
Not really. A war was in Bosnia.
It was ....did you grow up there? I did
No different to the Palestinians of Gaza, if you treat humans beings like this they will inevitably fight back. Then again the english have a track records of this, they have done this to indigenous peoples all over the world. I support anyone who is oppressed and stands up for their Human Rights. 🏴🇪🇺🇮🇪
This isn't anything to do with "the English", the unionists in Northern Ireland are not amd do not consider themselves English
@@jackholloway1 really , you having a joke……have you seen all those Union flags.
Yes, the British flag. Not just "English". The Scots & Welsh also played their part in the British Empire@@sandrider1406
Ireland.
The first colony.
Resistance?
Surprise?
Happened anywhere in the world?
Just leave people living in areas alone, withdraw and take your planters with you.
Northern Ireland is a part of the UK, a place governed, ostensibly, by Westminster. It was Westminster that allowed this apartheid to happen. It was Westminster that allowed the colonisers in Ireland to treat the native Irish people like dirt. The Trouble was and is that Westminster is incapable of governing Ireland. There are no Troubles in the Republic, it has a functioning economy in a partnership of equals while NI has stagnated and stultified in a union where its voice on key issues is ignored, same as Wales and Scotland. NI can't even govern itself it is so damaged by British rule. A united Ireland is the solution.
For context, I'm Irish of Scottish protestant descent.
Isaiah 2:4
King James Version
4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
In what world was the the discrimination face in northern Ireland self imposed. The Catholics face discrimination in housing and jobs which is even amited by the British government. The British government has repeatedly apologize for attacks on republican peaceful protest. When your government (weather you wanted it to be your government) has to apologize for shooting and killing people marching for your civil rights. How you you now imply that the Catholics chosed to be discriminated against
You didn't really understand this film at all did you?
@@zoidersBecause it was embarrassing old fashioned and hilarious brit propaganda
The Irish communities were deliberately targeted and oppressed.
Sadly innocent people suffered on all sides.
I hope for the North of Ireland to be free of Westminster rule but also be an equal society for protestants, catholics and any other beliefs within their borders.
When it happens it needs to happen only by way of the vote.
All could have been avoided if the British left and stopped colonising
The English where sick of the North of Ireland people on the mainland don't care about it, people in the North of Ireland wanted peace and an end to the fear.
The Northern Irish are the future in Northern Ireland, not unification. That is their history, an independent Ulster.
Both Irish Republicans and those identifying as British have been gas-lighted into opposing corners. By London originally, now very actively by Dublin, for too long. There is not one single benefit for any Northern Irish citizen supporting unification, catholic Protestant, none, Jew, Hindu or other.
If those that did support unification got their way, their children and grandchildren, or those that are left in Northern Ireland after the future demographic collapse in a united Ireland, would regret it. Within two generations. Just like the 25% of the population that are left in the Ulster counties Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan after they were acquired in this unification nightmare.
Those that have been gas lighted into inaccurately obsessing about being British, are doing the enemies of Ulster a massive favour, this allows the enemies of Northern Ireland to associate them, “the Brits” with all the injustices of the past for their international supporters, when they have no responsibility for any of it.
Northern Ireland has a prosperous future because of its geological position and people, if only we can get honest politicians that act purely in the interests of the Northern Irish people and stop navel gazing about the past.
If you are born in Ulster, you are Northern Irish, and have always been Northern Irish, as that is your heritage. Just like a citizen of the English Pale around Dublin is Southern Irish, just like his neighbours.
Interesting. In same time West schooled NDR, Rhodesia,JAR etc about walls and segregation..
One part of the west isn’t the west