Nordy here. You navigated the garden(s) wonderfully and avoided snake bites. Fun fact: the puzzle is *technically* solvable without the apples, but it’s quite brutal. The apples are there to *tempt* solvers to look in key places so they don’t get stuck :) I should have also mentioned that there are exactly 9 snakes-one for each circle. It was in an earlier version of the rules and must have missed the rewrite.
Thanks for clarifying that there are exactly 9 snakes. I just started the puzzle and have been stumped from the get-go, so I’m assuming that’s a crucial point to the ruleset.
In the common western history of art, the forbidden fruit has been often identified as being an apple, but the Bible actually never mentions the type of fruit. It is likely that the author meant a fig, which makes sense from the context of the story. But thanks to a word play in Latin (the Latin word Malum means Apple but also Evil), we have been putting up with apples for the last few centuries. Anyway: nice sudoku!
Fun puzzle and nice solve. One interesting observation: in the finished puzzle, all fruit are in garden squares. While that wasn’t a stated rule, it makes real-world sense that they’re only on garden spots and never inside the snakes!
I finished in 84:58 minutes. I really like it when puzzles commit to a theme for a puzzle. It worked well in this puzzle. It was fun trying to maneuver the snakes around potential gardens. I think my favorite part was the ending of coloring, especially seeing that r7c4 couldn't be garden as it would force the r7c1 and r8c6 snakes to both be 3. There were other parts that were fun just like that. Great Puzzle!
What an absolute treat! And so carefully set. I'm allways amazed at how spacios a sudoku grid really is. To fit those snakes and greens in there in such a way, my god, what a devine creator😉! 👏👏👏 It would be lovely if the "red dots" find their way into the standard ruleset. Such a brilliant idea. Since they are apples, the remind me of how Ovid described them in "Narciss and Echo", like two halfs, colour-coded, always separated, as only one side is exposed to the light and the other will remain in the shadows.
I just finished the puzzle. It took me quite literally five hours flat to solve it, however I am proud to say that I completed it without using the fruit's hint - and can indeed confirm that it is possible. Amazing work, and kudos to nordy for such brilliant design.
28:00 In Greek we have the expression "double-headed viper". It's basically onomatopoea, because οχιά (viper) starts like όχι (no), so οχιά διμούτσουνη (double-headed viper) is a standard reply to someone who annoys us by saying no.
18:21 why the remaining cells in box 1 are entirely enclosed by snakes, I mean r1c1 can be a small garden of size 1. Although simon is correct here but he has not given the explanation for why r1c1 has to be snake. In my solve I deduced it was a snake because if it was garden both snakes in r4c2 and r2c4 will become of length 4 and break the rules of uniqueness of snake lengths. Edit : Oops 😅, he noticed it.
This is an infallible way to select puzzles to be featured on CTC. If they are recommended by reliable solvers or testers, they are guaranteed to be extraordinary. I remember Simon said in the introduction of a video years ago that CTC only features _"extraordinary"_ puzzles. I think it should and it typically does. The *forbidden fruit* rule is fascinating and, together with Simon's introduction, it definitely arouses my curiosity.
I would love to see you do birthday announcements for your “little people” - it would be nice to memorialize those events for them on daddy’s channel. And would be nice to see if you really do give them cake with that insane icing ratio. Just a thought. I’m sure you would leave the loveliest and loving-est messages for them that viewers would enjoy and they would treasure.
18:18: “So this is entirely enclosed by snake.” Not necessarily, you could have a miniature garden in r1c1. (Which doesn't work, because then there would be 2 snakes of length 4, but still, it should be considered.) Edit: Never mind, Simon realized that a few minutes later.
@@henk-ottolimburg7947 surprisingly, if i didnt make a mistake in my brute forcing, im pretty sure you can deduce the entire garden+snake paths without that rule. (if you want to double check me on that haha) couldnt solve the digits without it tho
There is nothing in the rules that state a snake must have a snake-circle end. This caused me to get hung up for a while because there is not break-in without this assumption.
Nordy mentions in their comment that there are 9 snakes exactly, but that it got left out of the rules. So at least can confirm it’s correct, but I got hung up on the same thing until I saw the comment.
Trying not to get spoiled by looking at the comments, but one rules question: The rules do not explicitly state that the 9 marked snakes are the only snakes in the puzzle. Is that a fair assumption to make, or is the sudoko solvable when considering a possibility of unmarked extra snakes?
38:33 for me. should have been a lot faster, but only 30 minutes into the solve did i realise that the "cage" rule applies to the gardens too. It made the solve so much easier.
45:15 Another way of seeing that is this: if you would not have it that way then the garden on the bottom left would be 9 cells... and where would 5 go in that?! (nowhere)
RUclips was brutal last night: interrupted every 9 minutes with an ad, 45 seconds or more before it could be skipped. And it had the nerve to keep tellling me "fewer ads in this long video." I very nearly gave up on it. I wish there was a way for content creators to set up points at which ads can be inserted -- so the video doesn't get interrupted in mid-word. 😿
i want to make a sudoku that's also a crossword: like a 36*36 sudoku, digits 0-9 once each, all letters once each, every set of letters between numbers is a valid word formed by the clue on the side marked as the previous numbers. i don't want to set though im too lazy
The rules don't specify that snakes can't branch. Was that left out by mistake? I feel like some of the logic doesn't work unless you can make that assumption.
Snakes "move orthogonally through the grid"…in order to "branch" it would have to double back on itself. And since they aren't allowed to touch or cross themselves, that would be breaking the stated rules. Plus if it did double back onto itself in the path, it would tie itself in a knot and it would surely die. And this is a family friendly channel after all!
@@awebmate Hmm. Not sure I agree. It being a snake is what implies it doesn't branch. If snakes were typically born with two heads, then I wouldn't consider the point where the snake branched to be a point where the snake touched itself anymore than any other point inside the snakes body. To touch itself, in my view, that suggests two separate points on the surface of the snake coming into contact with one another.
77:05, spun my wheels a lot before rereading the rules and seeing digits couldn't repeat in non-snake regions, also. And then I deleted all my numbers because I kept breaking things, seems like I neglected to put a 9 pencil mark in r1c8.
It's an add-in that can be purchased in the main CtC app. There's an Android link in the video description to the main CtC app, if you scroll down far enough.
28:15 Simon says that the snake can only go to one of R2C7 and R3C6 - but could the snake not have doubled back on itself at that point and eventually joined the snake head in R5C8? Appreciate the puzzle solved differently but could the snake have gone R1C6, R2C6, R2C7, R3C7, R3C6 and then, for example along column 4 to the finish?
Fitting that in a biblical sudoku, 3 does not lose its religion, although I feel like 3’s still lost its religion too much to participate in this puzzle
18:20 - This is Simon being lucky, as usual. "This is entirely enclosed by snake" is no grounds for making the corner "snake" as well. That making it "garden" creates two length four snakes, is...
I really hate when puzzles have this wording "Orthogonally connected groups of non-snake cells..." - because it reads then that you can't have a garden size of 1 cell... But I know that's not often the case, that sometimes despite being plural, you can have groups of 1 - and then I never know if I should be reading that you can't have gardens of 1 and is that part of the solving mechanism of this... I wish it would say "Orthogonally connected groups of 1 or more non-snake cells"
I don’t get this ‘solving’ issue. Are people seriously complaining that you’re aiding the solving process while reading the rules? Ignore these people please for your own sake, Simon.
Nordy here. You navigated the garden(s) wonderfully and avoided snake bites. Fun fact: the puzzle is *technically* solvable without the apples, but it’s quite brutal. The apples are there to *tempt* solvers to look in key places so they don’t get stuck :) I should have also mentioned that there are exactly 9 snakes-one for each circle. It was in an earlier version of the rules and must have missed the rewrite.
Very fun to watch Simon solve this one, Nordy. I saw what you did there - the apples 'tempt' the solver to look in key places ... haha!
Loved this from you Nordy!!! Great concept!! Wonderful solving Simon
Thanks for clarifying that there are exactly 9 snakes. I just started the puzzle and have been stumped from the get-go, so I’m assuming that’s a crucial point to the ruleset.
Jeez, when I saw this I attempted it; was super hard but figured it out; amazed it was even possible
"Original Sin"! Loved the puzzle. And it was funny when Simon juxtaposed "a walk in the park" with "a slither in the garden".
simon is so great, 20.23 we can place the first digt... just above the first digit
In the common western history of art, the forbidden fruit has been often identified as being an apple, but the Bible actually never mentions the type of fruit. It is likely that the author meant a fig, which makes sense from the context of the story. But thanks to a word play in Latin (the Latin word Malum means Apple but also Evil), we have been putting up with apples for the last few centuries. Anyway: nice sudoku!
i love when simon plays an intro :)
It was very nice
19:47 whenever my mom calls me about a problem with her ipad
[Places second digit] “Our first digit is a 3.”
Fun puzzle and nice solve. One interesting observation: in the finished puzzle, all fruit are in garden squares. While that wasn’t a stated rule, it makes real-world sense that they’re only on garden spots and never inside the snakes!
I was curious about that.
The placement of the apples was indeed intended :) I also think it makes sense for them to only be in gardens!
I finished in 84:58 minutes. I really like it when puzzles commit to a theme for a puzzle. It worked well in this puzzle. It was fun trying to maneuver the snakes around potential gardens. I think my favorite part was the ending of coloring, especially seeing that r7c4 couldn't be garden as it would force the r7c1 and r8c6 snakes to both be 3. There were other parts that were fun just like that. Great Puzzle!
Very nice break-in. With all snakes filled in, it still kept up resistance for a good while as well.
Done in 45:05. Thoroughly enjoyed this one.
I loved this from start to finish, starting with the guitar intro, and then the puzzle was very interesting. Thank you for the video, Simon.
What an absolute treat! And so carefully set.
I'm allways amazed at how spacios a sudoku grid really is. To fit those snakes and greens in there in such a way, my god, what a devine creator😉! 👏👏👏
It would be lovely if the "red dots" find their way into the standard ruleset. Such a brilliant idea. Since they are apples, the remind me of how Ovid described them in "Narciss and Echo", like two halfs, colour-coded, always separated, as only one side is exposed to the light and the other will remain in the shadows.
I just finished the puzzle. It took me quite literally five hours flat to solve it, however I am proud to say that I completed it without using the fruit's hint - and can indeed confirm that it is possible. Amazing work, and kudos to nordy for such brilliant design.
57:41 - What a brilliant puzzle.
Such a banger of a puzzle! The instant I finished it I was hoping to see it on the channel some day.
Splendid guitar intro Simon!!! Treat for us when you play!! Great puzzle Nordy with exceptional theme and concept!!
I'm really excited that the disposition of the apples at the end lined up how I'd hoped.
Yaaaaay I picked those apples specifically for this reason :)
28:00 In Greek we have the expression "double-headed viper". It's basically onomatopoea, because οχιά (viper) starts like όχι (no), so οχιά διμούτσουνη (double-headed viper) is a standard reply to someone who annoys us by saying no.
Rules: 06:44
Let's Get Cracking: 10:01
Simon's time: 49m48s
Puzzle Solved: 59:49
What about this video's Top Tier Simarkisms?!
The Secret: 7x (11:24, 11:25, 11:56, 14:20, 28:23, 46:55, 57:21)
Bobbins: 3x (43:19, 49:37, 50:35)
Knowledge Bomb: 1x (18:14)
And how about this video's Simarkisms?!
Snake: 136x (06:52, 06:56, 06:58, 07:02, 07:07, 07:16, 07:22, 07:28, 07:30, 07:36, 07:44, 07:46, 07:52, 07:55, 08:11, 08:30, 08:41, 08:49, 09:07, 10:08, 10:16, 10:23, 10:34, 10:38, 10:44, 10:58, 11:01, 11:07, 11:18, 11:30, 11:33, 11:39, 11:43, 11:48, 12:35, 12:42, 12:46, 12:48, 12:51, 12:59, 13:34, 13:48, 13:57, 14:23, 14:40, 14:55, 14:59, 15:02, 15:19, 15:30, 16:43, 16:45, 16:53, 18:24, 20:53, 21:09, 22:11, 22:11, 22:13, 22:16, 22:16, 22:36, 22:43, 22:57, 23:42, 23:47, 24:05, 24:30, 24:48, 25:09, 25:27, 27:14, 27:24, 27:31, 27:34, 27:34, 27:37, 27:37, 27:51, 27:56, 28:02, 28:06, 28:20, 28:31, 28:34, 28:45, 28:48, 29:06, 29:09, 29:35, 29:37, 29:37, 29:46, 30:21, 30:48, 32:16, 32:46, 33:39, 33:43, 33:54, 34:05, 34:58, 35:24, 35:59, 36:09, 37:17, 37:49, 38:02, 38:28, 38:35, 38:49, 38:53, 38:59, 39:03, 39:22, 39:27, 39:38, 39:59, 40:01, 40:36, 41:02, 41:17, 41:31, 41:34, 41:38, 42:40, 42:42, 42:42, 42:58, 43:48, 49:20, 49:31, 49:53, 51:04, 51:07, 51:11)
Ah: 13x (13:53, 16:32, 20:49, 25:03, 27:29, 31:56, 34:43, 36:41, 42:12, 42:35, 50:52, 57:02, 58:03)
Hang On: 10x (13:44, 18:40, 19:16, 19:31, 20:42, 21:15, 25:03, 42:12, 43:50, 47:57)
Sorry: 7x (03:46, 21:31, 22:30, 37:13, 48:21, 53:18, 58:42)
Lovely: 7x (17:29, 20:49, 36:03, 45:03, 49:05, 59:45, 59:45)
Touch Itself: 6x (07:07, 07:13, 12:59, 13:04, 30:21, 44:44)
Brilliant: 6x (01:42, 02:29, 02:59, 04:20, 05:53, 05:53)
Obviously: 5x (13:24, 14:15, 14:19, 18:06, 51:50)
Triangular Number: 5x (17:13, 18:02, 38:41, 41:46, 41:48)
Cake!: 4x (04:26, 04:31, 04:58, 06:35)
Bother: 3x (53:18, 54:34, 56:53)
Naked Single: 2x (55:41, 58:54)
The Answer is: 2x (20:57, 52:49)
Clever: 2x (44:52, 44:52)
Beautiful: 2x (40:50, 41:29)
What Does This Mean?: 2x (20:08, 39:31)
Goodness: 1x (44:59)
Nonsense: 1x (01:57)
Naughty: 1x (59:57)
First Digit: 1x (20:30)
Going Mad: 1x (19:34)
Take a Bow: 1x (59:57)
By Sudoku: 1x (58:01)
Bizarre: 1x (09:56)
Surely: 1x (58:31)
Stunning: 1x (01:53)
Whoopsie: 1x (10:30)
Wow: 1x (23:26)
That's Huge: 1x (27:29)
Nature: 1x (41:10)
Most popular number(>9), digit and colour this video:
Thirty Four (10 mentions)
One (68 mentions)
Green (12 mentions)
Antithesis Battles:
High (7) - Low (6)
Odd (15) - Even (11)
Column (12) - Row (3)
FAQ:
Q1: You missed something!
A1: That could very well be the case! Human speech can be hard to understand for computers like me! Point out the ones that I missed and maybe I'll learn!
Q2: Can you do this for another channel?
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I love how Simon proves snake lengths by bishop's colours and not just by the number of cells available 😅
01:05:05 for me. I always like it when the last number I enter is the same as the last one for Simon. Great puzzle! Kind comment.
Brilliant and very exciting puzzle.
Live Forever - Kotomi & Ryan Elder (Oasis Cover) - "I don't really want to know how your garden grows", I just had to listen to it.
A Nordy puzzle. I watched the wrogn puzzle video today, it was brilliant.
23:30 for me. Fantastic puzzle!! Loved it!
You can't win with your colour choice today, since both gardens and snakes are green
Snakes can have lots of different colors depending on the species.
Light green, dark green
Not all snakes are green. Garden snakes usually are, but they are usually also inocuous.
Black mambas are grey. The black in the name refers to the inside of the mouth. The body of the black Mamba is grey.
Your garden may be green, but mine is definitely brown 😂
I get it--the reason for the rules of the apples is that they're the fruit of knowledge of *all things* good and evil.
I love the guitar intros
18:21 why the remaining cells in box 1 are entirely enclosed by snakes, I mean r1c1 can be a small garden of size 1. Although simon is correct here but he has not given the explanation for why r1c1 has to be snake. In my solve I deduced it was a snake because if it was garden both snakes in r4c2 and r2c4 will become of length 4 and break the rules of uniqueness of snake lengths.
Edit : Oops 😅, he noticed it.
must... resist... snake jokes... "can't touch themselves".... MUST.... RESIST!
This is an infallible way to select puzzles to be featured on CTC. If they are recommended by reliable solvers or testers, they are guaranteed to be extraordinary. I remember Simon said in the introduction of a video years ago that CTC only features _"extraordinary"_ puzzles. I think it should and it typically does.
The *forbidden fruit* rule is fascinating and, together with Simon's introduction, it definitely arouses my curiosity.
I would love to see you do birthday announcements for your “little people” - it would be nice to memorialize those events for them on daddy’s channel. And would be nice to see if you really do give them cake with that insane icing ratio. Just a thought. I’m sure you would leave the loveliest and loving-est messages for them that viewers would enjoy and they would treasure.
That was fun.
18:18: “So this is entirely enclosed by snake.” Not necessarily, you could have a miniature garden in r1c1. (Which doesn't work, because then there would be 2 snakes of length 4, but still, it should be considered.)
Edit: Never mind, Simon realized that a few minutes later.
1:00:50 (over 2 sessions) ... after an abbreviated 4-minute attempted, I broke through on my follow-up try
Incredible puzzle!
I tried solving the puzzle without the "digits cannot repeat in gardens" part and had a tremendously difficult time
Exactly the same here. Forgot that rule, got stuck near the end.
@@henk-ottolimburg7947 surprisingly, if i didnt make a mistake in my brute forcing, im pretty sure you can deduce the entire garden+snake paths without that rule. (if you want to double check me on that haha)
couldnt solve the digits without it tho
There is nothing in the rules that state a snake must have a snake-circle end. This caused me to get hung up for a while because there is not break-in without this assumption.
Nordy mentions in their comment that there are 9 snakes exactly, but that it got left out of the rules. So at least can confirm it’s correct, but I got hung up on the same thing until I saw the comment.
Dope intro my G! Superman is a handsome baller.
Solved in 37:37!
Trying not to get spoiled by looking at the comments, but one rules question:
The rules do not explicitly state that the 9 marked snakes are the only snakes in the puzzle. Is that a fair assumption to make, or is the sudoko solvable when considering a possibility of unmarked extra snakes?
I believe that's a fair assumption
I was unable to solve without watching the beginning of Simon's solve and seeing that he made that assumption.
38:33 for me. should have been a lot faster, but only 30 minutes into the solve did i realise that the "cage" rule applies to the gardens too. It made the solve so much easier.
At 18:20 Simon marked R1C1 as snake, but it could have been a garden cell, correct?
I was thinking the same thing! It could be a one cell garden and two snakes
Edit: He sees it at 22:28 😅
Awesome, thanks...now I can keep watching the video lol
32:17 for me. I like this puzzle.
45:15 Another way of seeing that is this: if you would not have it that way then the garden on the bottom left would be 9 cells... and where would 5 go in that?! (nowhere)
RUclips was brutal last night: interrupted every 9 minutes with an ad, 45 seconds or more before it could be skipped. And it had the nerve to keep tellling me "fewer ads in this long video." I very nearly gave up on it. I wish there was a way for content creators to set up points at which ads can be inserted -- so the video doesn't get interrupted in mid-word. 😿
i want to make a sudoku that's also a crossword: like a 36*36 sudoku, digits 0-9 once each, all letters once each, every set of letters between numbers is a valid word formed by the clue on the side marked as the previous numbers. i don't want to set though im too lazy
The rules don't specify that snakes can't branch. Was that left out by mistake? I feel like some of the logic doesn't work unless you can make that assumption.
Snakes "move orthogonally through the grid"…in order to "branch" it would have to double back on itself. And since they aren't allowed to touch or cross themselves, that would be breaking the stated rules. Plus if it did double back onto itself in the path, it would tie itself in a knot and it would surely die. And this is a family friendly channel after all!
In nature, you might get the odd mutant with two heads, but in general snakes don't branch.
"not touching itself orthogonally" implies no branching.
@@awebmate Hmm. Not sure I agree. It being a snake is what implies it doesn't branch. If snakes were typically born with two heads, then I wouldn't consider the point where the snake branched to be a point where the snake touched itself anymore than any other point inside the snakes body. To touch itself, in my view, that suggests two separate points on the surface of the snake coming into contact with one another.
Surely the Secret Garden would be the one with 9 squares…
77:05, spun my wheels a lot before rereading the rules and seeing digits couldn't repeat in non-snake regions, also. And then I deleted all my numbers because I kept breaking things, seems like I neglected to put a 9 pencil mark in r1c8.
Music intros yeahhhhhhh!!
The last season of Superman and Lois airs now.
55:11 for me - I got stuck on the 7 clue in box 3 and the 8 clue in box 8.
Where can we find a link to the Android Fog of war app? 😊🙏
It's an add-in that can be purchased in the main CtC app. There's an Android link in the video description to the main CtC app, if you scroll down far enough.
@@RichSmith77 ah, thanks a lot!
Just ask where 2 goes in row 3.
if would have expected in the garden of eden for intro, but i would never complain about superman
28:15 Simon says that the snake can only go to one of R2C7 and R3C6 - but could the snake not have doubled back on itself at that point and eventually joined the snake head in R5C8? Appreciate the puzzle solved differently but could the snake have gone R1C6, R2C6, R2C7, R3C7, R3C6 and then, for example along column 4 to the finish?
A snake cannot touch itself orthogonally. In your example, cells r2c6 and r3c6 would be the snake touching itself.
@@RichSmith77 Thank you - I misread the rules and it's clear now, much appreciated!
I see music intro. I click. Simple as that
The Allotment of Eden and the Onion of Good and Evil doesn’t quite have the same tone as the original.
31:38
slither in the garden...
Fitting that in a biblical sudoku, 3 does not lose its religion, although I feel like 3’s still lost its religion too much to participate in this puzzle
Surprised you didn't open the video with "In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida".
Who is bishop 😊
The android on the Nostromo 😁
99:33 sub 100 lesgooo!
❤
18:20 - This is Simon being lucky, as usual.
"This is entirely enclosed by snake" is no grounds for making the corner "snake" as well. That making it "garden" creates two length four snakes, is...
Well spotted. I have to admit I didn’t consider the corner either. (He addresses it now) 😅
maybe if youd watched more of the video instead of rushing to the comments, you wouldve seen that he corrects himself on that a few minutes later.
18:20 R1C1 could be a garden though... based on the reasoning... but then both snakes should be 4-s which is forbidden...
Ah, it is spotted later...
I really hate when puzzles have this wording "Orthogonally connected groups of non-snake cells..." - because it reads then that you can't have a garden size of 1 cell... But I know that's not often the case, that sometimes despite being plural, you can have groups of 1 - and then I never know if I should be reading that you can't have gardens of 1 and is that part of the solving mechanism of this...
I wish it would say "Orthogonally connected groups of 1 or more non-snake cells"
I don’t get this ‘solving’ issue. Are people seriously complaining that you’re aiding the solving process while reading the rules? Ignore these people please for your own sake, Simon.
😊
24:24 It wasn't unnecessary. You trained yourself to use the last sentence of the rules.
44:25 no it doesn’t. the garden would be 8, canceling the snake head 8
Seriously annoyed with Apple ...
They are too busy hanging around in the Garden of Eden to bother with something as clever as sudoku solving.