Thanks for the solve! Life has indeed been pretty busy recently, but in a good way. Still, it's nice to find the time to make a puzzle when I can, and I was very pleased with how this one turned out. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Hi Simon! Cheers from the US. I’m a 27 year old engineer and i found your channel recently. I’ve been recommending you to everybody in my office and have gotten them into these fun sudokus as well. Thank you for your positive vibes and hours of entertainment! PS, I find it oddly satisfying when you say ‘every row, eeevery column, and every 3x3 box’
The quicker explanation of the arrows pointing at each other is that they need to be the same colour or each arrow cell will need to be greater than the other (since it sums it up), causing some form of loop/paradox.
Anither masterpiece from a masterbrain ❤ If we think about it from a beginner point of view, the rules must sound like a prank! "Look at these arrows, the digit in the cells indicates the sums of some other digits in the direction af rhe arrow. - Which digits? And where are they? - Ah, we don't know which cells, and we don't know any numbers at all, you must look at the colors. - Colors? I don't see any colors either." 🤯🤯🤯
it always fascinates me to see the sheer range of fans whose birthday it is, a 15 year old, the lead singer of a band, a german who moved quite a big distance
I'm always so impressed when solving a layered puzzle (yin yang and sudoku) when you can't solve one significantly earlier than the other. Both the yin yang and sudoku finishing up together is a great completion.
49:11 The 4579 pencil mark actually does do something if you consider it in light of the clue in r6c6-with only those digits available for both there's only one way to satisfy r6c6 = 3 + r6c9
aww I saw the thumbnail and was so sure we got the "example of a ying yang shading", which Simon does almost everytime when explaining ying yang rules, as the solution for shading in this puzzle (I may have skipped ahead to check, my excitement couldn't be contained)
Ooh, I love that album, especially Crying. I’ve seen Joe Satriani live a couple of times, amazing. Paused to write this, I’m now going to watch what the wonderful Jay Dyer has in store for us today.
Simon's ability to ignore the diagonal arrow in r8c7 for over half the video, and then not immediately see upon discovering it that it coloured r4c3 until after his maths, is simply astounding. This man's brain deserves to be studied, lovingly
The Extremist! My parents bought this album for me for Christmas when I was 18 years old. What an album! Now I need to go listen to it. For one, Sudoku will need to wait! 😅
I started to watch this, realized the stream was about to start, and then came back - thanks for this video and the enjoyment of watching you solve it, Simon!
A very beautiful puzzle indeed! I liked the break-in a lot; using letters it is easy to show that the edge digit is actual the sum of the two on the opposite side. This helped resolve the diagonal eventually as well. Solving this puzzle felt like witnessing an annealing process unfold, with several local phase transitions fixing bits and pieces along the way towards the global optimum. Truly enjoyed that, thank you Jay, thank you Simon. :-)
That was very diverting, thanks, full of lovely nuggets of logic. Annoyingly I broke it towards the end and had to rewind. I do like the check solution button at times like that, even if some might consider it cheating!
And then @39:50 or so - the interaction of clues and shading to give a puzzle which solves beautifully makes this one of Jay Dyer's best, in my opinion. It is not the hardest, but the logic is so clean.
O yes, Simon explained it so neatly. In my solve it took me quite a lot of bifurcations to find that result and I could have seen this in such an easy way! o my!
Even watching you do it and thinking alongside you has me absolutely stumped 95% of the time. Incredibly challenging puzzle this one. Quite the beauty though. Enjoyed every second of it!
59:34 puts in the options for r4c3, then immediately sees the 8 for row 2 AND fills out the remaining 79 pair but then loses track of what he was doing and ignores that his original idea with r4c3 now can only be a 7 which also resolved the 79 pair. I'm gonna start getting gray hair rather sooner than later if I keep watching Simon's deducting skills to figure out logic rules being a 10/10 but his implementations being a solid 2/10
You mentioned that you think some people would be happy if you didn't sing, and you hurried through the verse as well. I'm *assuming* that you're joking, but just in case, please know that you should never let random internet strangers impact your joy. If you enjoy the singing, go for it, no matter how others feel about it. You go have fun
I'm currently at the Royal Albert Hall seeing the Australian Pink Floyd Show (they're so good!!) I'll be watching this one later. Hopefully I'll be able to catch some of the live stream on the way home 😅
thanks to the sevens in this puzzle, I now know what it feels like to have a digit fully resolved on the board, just while watching along with the solve, ten minutes before Simon does
There are more Jay Dyer puzzles to be enjoyed - there was a beautiful one in Discord testing, and it was on the easier side for Jay's puzzles: name to be decided.
I finished in 182 minutes. This was one of the hardest puzzles I have done. At first, I didn't even see that is was a sudoku. I thought it was Saturday and a non-sudoku puzzle. It started out slow, but once I found the trick on the border, which was insanely cool to spot, then I started to make good progress. I slowly made more coloring and was doing well. I nearly colored everything, but I got majorly stuck. It took me so long, but I found one of the sickest deductions I have seen. I proved that r2c2 couldn't be the same shading as the one to the left of it. I had proven in that column that 1234 had to exist and 123 in that row had to exist. This meant that the minimum number for r2c2 if shaded same as to the left had to be 5. The maximum also had to be 5 thanks to the arrow clue in r6c6. However, this breaks the puzzle by forcing the cell in r2c8 to be a 4. Now 4 has to take two cells from the row to add up, but neither can be 1. This was all caused by r2c2 being the same shading as to the left. That is crazy. Shading that cell the other color completed row 2's arrow coloring. If that was intended, that has to be one of the most insane constructions I have seen. Absolutely incredible. My brain hurts now, but I loved this one. Jay Dyer is truly a genius. Great Puzzle!
I just started the video and Simon describes the praise for the puzzle on LMG as "eulogistic". So, I had to stop it and write this comment. What a great word! Simon, you are definitely one of the UK's national treasures. At least imho. Okay, now let's see if the puzzle lives up to the "eulogistic" praise.
At 10:10, I feel it's important to also point out that R6C3 cannot be the same color as the the two cells to the left since it would then sum to 0, and that's not allowed because this one doesn't go to 11 😉
For the arrows pointing at each other, there's an even simpler explanation for why they can't be different colours. Let's imagine for a moment that they are. And then lets look at only one of them (let's say the blue one, without loss of generality). Since the arrow it is looking at is the other colour, it needs to be that arrow's number PLUS any other digits it sums. Assuming there are no other digits it sums, both arrows are now identical in sum. But let's now look at the other arrow (the orange one in our example, again without loss of generality). Since the blue arrow only summed the orange arrow, that must mean that all digits in the row seen by the blue arrow are, themselves, blue. Which means you need to sum at least 7 digits (potentially 8) into one digit. Which is obviously impossible. Since the arrows would have to include each other in their sum if they have different colours, you would need to sum *at least* 2*(1+2+3+4+5+6+7) into just two single digit numbers. 28 is decidedly *not* a single-digit number. Conclusion: any two arrows pointing at each other within the same row or column need to have the same colour
22:59: "Now we're stuck again": Not really. r8c2 clearly needs to be orange to avoid a blue 2×2. Which means r8c3 needs to be blue to avoid an orange 2×2. Which means r8c4 needs to be orange to avoid a blue 2×2. Which means r7c4 needs to be orange to avoid a checkerboard. Which means r6c4 needs to be blue to avoid an orange 2×2. It's probably possible to keep this going further, but those are the ones I can immediately visualise just from the current state of the grid 😅
"If a cell contains multiple arrows, each arrow is summed separately" is worrying, and Simon got distracted and glossed over this bit entirely. Then later at 26:37 Simon does something patently wrong (I'd thought), ignoring the second leg of a two-arrow cell and making deductions as if it had only one arrow! This is bad wording -- each arrow "is summed separately" means *what* in the context of the arrow cell? Does each leg separately yield the same sum, or do the separate sums together make the sum in the arrow! That is maddening!
After all.. summed separately is the only way you sum things. Each *digit* on an arrow is summed "separately"! Just think how many separate ways you could write that rule better, if it truly is meant that each arrow (in a given cell) sums to the *same* total. "Separately" helps nothing! And passive voice of "arrow is summed" does little to clarify the _sameness_ of each arrow sum with each other separate sum.
Wasn't it "dint of seeing-ness"? (I admit, I groaned a little at that one.) Edit 1:05:20 I misremembered. It was by "dint of see-age-ness", I think, which is even worse 😂 Edit 2: Or was it "C-age-ness" because it was labelled with the letter C? Maybe.
I didn't quite understand the special rule case for cells with *TWO (2) arrows...* I mean... I *THOUGHT* I did understand it, but then when Simon started filling them in and they turned out CORRECT (with HIS way), that's when I knew I had gotten it all wrong !! :O Can anyone help to clarify, pls? :O .
"If a cell contains multiple arrows, each arrow is summed separately." It just means if the cell value is X, then X is the sum in each arrow direction individually. You don't add the multiple directions together.
102:17, wasted like 15 minutes due to a misread of the rules, then like 25 minutes before I looked at the video to see 9 could only be in one of cell of column 9. Just putting the logic into my head took a really long time.
Welcome to What Might Simon Miss, where I state a mid-puzzle deduction, then we see whether Simon finds a more convoluted way of solving the puzzle. Check my reply to see whether he uses it or not. Today, Simon might miss (spoilers, obvs): At 50:00, that the horizontal arrow in r6c6 restricts it to being exactly 3 (the one in r6c7) bigger than r6c9. This restricts this pair of cells to the values (7,4) (in that order).
This time it took Simon 3 minutes of video to find the deduction (at 54:00) that I did, so technically a loss. At least he got 2 digits before then. Maybe next time I'll find logic Simon doesn't
@@TimWalton0 Diagonal arrows are sometimes broken in the ruleset, as at least some are one digit additions. So you have to modify the ruleset to do the puzzle.
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Thanks for the solve! Life has indeed been pretty busy recently, but in a good way. Still, it's nice to find the time to make a puzzle when I can, and I was very pleased with how this one turned out. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Loved watching Simon enjoy this one - thanks, Jay!
Hi Simon! Cheers from the US. I’m a 27 year old engineer and i found your channel recently. I’ve been recommending you to everybody in my office and have gotten them into these fun sudokus as well. Thank you for your positive vibes and hours of entertainment! PS, I find it oddly satisfying when you say ‘every row, eeevery column, and every 3x3 box’
That 578 pencilmark at 57:12 going unnoticed for 10 minutes was driving me crazy!
The quicker explanation of the arrows pointing at each other is that they need to be the same colour or each arrow cell will need to be greater than the other (since it sums it up), causing some form of loop/paradox.
Ooh, that's a really clear way of expressing it. It feels obvious when you put it like that.
That’s were I went with it. It seemed the obvious issue.
"If you're watching this video at normal speed"
I love the recognition for us weirdos that watch pretty much every video at 2+ times speed haha
Anither masterpiece from a masterbrain ❤
If we think about it from a beginner point of view, the rules must sound like a prank! "Look at these arrows, the digit in the cells indicates the sums of some other digits in the direction af rhe arrow.
- Which digits? And where are they?
- Ah, we don't know which cells, and we don't know any numbers at all, you must look at the colors.
- Colors? I don't see any colors either." 🤯🤯🤯
- "Ah, we don't know the colors either. You have to look at the arrows."
- [explodes]
it always fascinates me to see the sheer range of fans whose birthday it is, a 15 year old, the lead singer of a band, a german who moved quite a big distance
I'm always so impressed when solving a layered puzzle (yin yang and sudoku) when you can't solve one significantly earlier than the other. Both the yin yang and sudoku finishing up together is a great completion.
Welcome back Jay Dyer. This puzzle is amazing.
36:31 for me. What a fantastic puzzle!! So happy to finally see a new one from Jay Dyer.
49:11 The 4579 pencil mark actually does do something if you consider it in light of the clue in r6c6-with only those digits available for both there's only one way to satisfy r6c6 = 3 + r6c9
Yeah he spends a few more minutes dancing around that square like he's not seeing the right arrow in r6c6 at all.
Yeah, saw that too.
aww I saw the thumbnail and was so sure we got the "example of a ying yang shading", which Simon does almost everytime when explaining ying yang rules, as the solution for shading in this puzzle (I may have skipped ahead to check, my excitement couldn't be contained)
I am waiting for the day when that’s actually the solution. I hope someone will construct a puzzle like this for Simon to solve on April 1st
It was the solution to a puzzle Mark did a while ago!
@@helgeb5906oh no, I missed that 🙈
@@helgeb5906oh no, I missed that.
They're pretty careful to never show the actual shading of any puzzle in the thumbnail.
Ooh, I love that album, especially Crying. I’ve seen Joe Satriani live a couple of times, amazing. Paused to write this, I’m now going to watch what the wonderful Jay Dyer has in store for us today.
Simon's ability to ignore the diagonal arrow in r8c7 for over half the video, and then not immediately see upon discovering it that it coloured r4c3 until after his maths, is simply astounding. This man's brain deserves to be studied, lovingly
We have truly been blessed with a streak of world class puzzles these last few days.
These last few months… years?
The Extremist! My parents bought this album for me for Christmas when I was 18 years old. What an album! Now I need to go listen to it. For one, Sudoku will need to wait! 😅
28:51 Quite right too because, as I'm sure Mark would tell you, it couldn't be 9, given the blue cell below it and the arrow at the top of the column.
This is such a good puzzle - very glad to see it featured
btw is there a hidden competition to set a puzzle with the fewest internal arrows?
Absolutely love the comment "so many clevernesses" - that's just how I felt about this one - to pack so much in is quite incredible.
I started to watch this, realized the stream was about to start, and then came back - thanks for this video and the enjoyment of watching you solve it, Simon!
A very beautiful puzzle indeed! I liked the break-in a lot; using letters it is easy to show that the edge digit is actual the sum of the two on the opposite side. This helped resolve the diagonal eventually as well. Solving this puzzle felt like witnessing an annealing process unfold, with several local phase transitions fixing bits and pieces along the way towards the global optimum. Truly enjoyed that, thank you Jay, thank you Simon. :-)
I am trying to watch all of the videos that I’ve missed 😅 i loooove cracking the cyriptic marathon!
Awesomely awesome‼ There will be an entire chapter dedicated to Jay Dyer in the next *CTC Cosmic Hits* book.
That was very diverting, thanks, full of lovely nuggets of logic. Annoyingly I broke it towards the end and had to rewind. I do like the check solution button at times like that, even if some might consider it cheating!
1:05:09 (over 2 sessions) ... I'm glad I persevered on this one
Incredible puzzle!
1:38:46 - Jay Dyer is a genius!!!
The deduction at 21+ minutes was one of the best things I found recently
And then @39:50 or so - the interaction of clues and shading to give a puzzle which solves beautifully makes this one of Jay Dyer's best, in my opinion. It is not the hardest, but the logic is so clean.
O yes, Simon explained it so neatly. In my solve it took me quite a lot of bifurcations to find that result and I could have seen this in such an easy way! o my!
Even watching you do it and thinking alongside you has me absolutely stumped 95% of the time. Incredibly challenging puzzle this one. Quite the beauty though. Enjoyed every second of it!
At the 33 minute mark, Simon miss the arrow in r8c7 pointing at r2c1 and that cell not being 8 or 9
4:50 - Thunder... thunder... Thundercats HO!
And a few seconds later, he says that himself. I can actually believe that. He's my generation.
There is a band called Thudermother, and one of the members is called Linnéa Vikström. Probably she who has birthday today! Happy birthday Linnéa 🎉
Happy birthday, Linnea!!I looked it up and Linnea Vikstrom’s birthday is November 26 and she is 32 today!!
The extremist is a cracking album! Pun completely intended
Great work Simon, that was wonderful.
Rules: 05:54
Let's Get Cracking: 09:14
Simon's time: 1h3m01s
Puzzle Solved: 1:12:15
What about this video's Top Tier Simarkisms?!
Bobbins: 4x (32:49, 32:49, 32:49, 41:32)
Three In the Corner: 4x (1:03:22, 1:09:52, 1:10:06, 1:10:17)
The Secret: 2x (11:02, 11:08)
Maverick: 1x (56:02)
And how about this video's Simarkisms?!
Ah: 18x (14:43, 16:47, 20:15, 24:16, 26:22, 28:07, 33:03, 33:06, 36:00, 36:04, 38:23, 39:34, 41:32, 48:29, 53:15, 56:37, 1:09:32, 1:10:59)
Checkerboard: 12x (11:14, 11:56, 12:44, 13:10, 19:43, 19:43, 22:35, 22:35, 23:53, 24:37, 38:02, 56:19)
Beautiful: 11x (20:19, 20:21, 24:16, 24:33, 27:14, 36:04, 45:59, 55:08, 1:04:14, 1:13:13, 1:13:13)
Sorry: 8x (04:53, 05:28, 31:15, 31:58, 42:45, 54:03, 57:49, 1:08:14)
By Sudoku: 6x (26:01, 42:07, 42:10, 52:29, 55:48, 57:05)
Clever: 5x (20:21, 36:43, 55:08, 1:04:11, 1:12:44)
Hang On: 5x (19:00, 53:15, 1:04:01, 1:04:01)
In Fact: 5x (01:39, 02:09, 12:02, 53:36, 55:39)
Pencil Mark/mark: 5x (41:44, 49:02, 57:08, 58:49, 59:38)
Gorgeous: 4x (24:43, 26:25, 48:21, 1:11:35)
I Have no Clue: 3x (31:58, 32:01, 1:08:56)
Stuck: 3x (22:54, 29:08, 42:25)
Brilliant: 3x (04:12, 1:12:09, 1:12:34)
Cake!: 3x (03:30, 04:14, 05:40)
Good Grief: 2x (45:59, 54:03)
Incredible: 2x (00:51, 02:03)
Obviously: 2x (13:52, 38:46)
What Does This Mean?: 2x (21:45, 22:47)
Triangular Number: 2x (15:59, 21:38)
Goodness: 1x (01:57)
Bother: 1x (1:00:33)
Naked Single: 1x (1:05:03)
The Answer is: 1x (12:36)
Nonsense: 1x (27:47)
In the Spotlight: 1x (1:10:20)
Lovely: 1x (27:11)
Extraordinary: 1x (02:47)
Deadly Pattern: 1x (1:10:36)
Come on Simon: 1x (50:45)
Shouting: 1x (03:09)
Spider-Sense: 1x (14:30)
Magnificent: 1x (00:59)
Puzzling: 1x (1:12:31)
Whoopsie: 1x (1:06:41)
Phone is Buzzing: 1x (10:50)
Progress: 1x (1:06:30)
Wow: 1x (43:20)
That's Huge: 1x (43:20)
Nature: 1x (1:11:10)
Weird: 1x (40:11)
Most popular number(>9), digit and colour this video:
Ten (5 mentions)
Two (107 mentions)
Blue (111 mentions)
Antithesis Battles:
High (2) - Low (0)
Even (6) - Odd (0)
Highest (2) - Lowest (0)
Row (20) - Column (20)
FAQ:
Q1: You missed something!
A1: That could very well be the case! Human speech can be hard to understand for computers like me! Point out the ones that I missed and maybe I'll learn!
Q2: Can you do this for another channel?
A2: I've been thinking about that and wrote some code to make that possible. Let me know which channel you think would be a good fit!
59:34 puts in the options for r4c3, then immediately sees the 8 for row 2 AND fills out the remaining 79 pair but then loses track of what he was doing and ignores that his original idea with r4c3 now can only be a 7 which also resolved the 79 pair.
I'm gonna start getting gray hair rather sooner than later if I keep watching Simon's deducting skills to figure out logic rules being a 10/10 but his implementations being a solid 2/10
You mentioned that you think some people would be happy if you didn't sing, and you hurried through the verse as well. I'm *assuming* that you're joking, but just in case, please know that you should never let random internet strangers impact your joy. If you enjoy the singing, go for it, no matter how others feel about it. You go have fun
I'm currently at the Royal Albert Hall seeing the Australian Pink Floyd Show (they're so good!!) I'll be watching this one later. Hopefully I'll be able to catch some of the live stream on the way home 😅
thanks to the sevens in this puzzle, I now know what it feels like to have a digit fully resolved on the board, just while watching along with the solve, ten minutes before Simon does
1:12:09 -- look at *HIS EYES LIGHT UP* upon receiving the confirmation !!
ahahahah what a kid !! :D
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There are more Jay Dyer puzzles to be enjoyed - there was a beautiful one in Discord testing, and it was on the easier side for Jay's puzzles: name to be decided.
Whenever you explain the perimeter secrets, I always think of Blockbusters with good ol' Bob.
I finished in 182 minutes. This was one of the hardest puzzles I have done. At first, I didn't even see that is was a sudoku. I thought it was Saturday and a non-sudoku puzzle. It started out slow, but once I found the trick on the border, which was insanely cool to spot, then I started to make good progress. I slowly made more coloring and was doing well. I nearly colored everything, but I got majorly stuck. It took me so long, but I found one of the sickest deductions I have seen. I proved that r2c2 couldn't be the same shading as the one to the left of it. I had proven in that column that 1234 had to exist and 123 in that row had to exist. This meant that the minimum number for r2c2 if shaded same as to the left had to be 5. The maximum also had to be 5 thanks to the arrow clue in r6c6. However, this breaks the puzzle by forcing the cell in r2c8 to be a 4. Now 4 has to take two cells from the row to add up, but neither can be 1. This was all caused by r2c2 being the same shading as to the left. That is crazy. Shading that cell the other color completed row 2's arrow coloring. If that was intended, that has to be one of the most insane constructions I have seen. Absolutely incredible. My brain hurts now, but I loved this one. Jay Dyer is truly a genius. Great Puzzle!
All these blue squares reminded me of Aquarium puzzles. I'd love to see a clever Sudoku/Aquarium hybrid puzzle on the channel sometime.
I just started the video and Simon describes the praise for the puzzle on LMG as "eulogistic". So, I had to stop it and write this comment. What a great word! Simon, you are definitely one of the UK's national treasures. At least imho.
Okay, now let's see if the puzzle lives up to the "eulogistic" praise.
52:12 no Simon, it IS at least a seven because it's counting at least a seven on the blue cells on the right hand side.
45:59 -- see him *JUMP in his chair* with excitement !! :D
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Three blue one brown made an appearance at 34:00
53:16 (r2c2) was a step I liked, just simple Sudoku reducing r2c2 to three digits, and only one of those is possible with the arrows and colouring.
Yes, row 6 was useful as well. I had that done before that.
At 10:10, I feel it's important to also point out that R6C3 cannot be the same color as the the two cells to the left since it would then sum to 0, and that's not allowed because this one doesn't go to 11 😉
For the arrows pointing at each other, there's an even simpler explanation for why they can't be different colours.
Let's imagine for a moment that they are. And then lets look at only one of them (let's say the blue one, without loss of generality). Since the arrow it is looking at is the other colour, it needs to be that arrow's number PLUS any other digits it sums. Assuming there are no other digits it sums, both arrows are now identical in sum. But let's now look at the other arrow (the orange one in our example, again without loss of generality). Since the blue arrow only summed the orange arrow, that must mean that all digits in the row seen by the blue arrow are, themselves, blue. Which means you need to sum at least 7 digits (potentially 8) into one digit. Which is obviously impossible. Since the arrows would have to include each other in their sum if they have different colours, you would need to sum *at least* 2*(1+2+3+4+5+6+7) into just two single digit numbers. 28 is decidedly *not* a single-digit number. Conclusion: any two arrows pointing at each other within the same row or column need to have the same colour
Great puzzle. I got the break in pretty quickly, and spend more time on suduko (how dare they making me do sudoku). Solved just under 1 hour.
Interesting. This video starts playing at 46 minutes in! Never seen that before.
22:59: "Now we're stuck again":
Not really. r8c2 clearly needs to be orange to avoid a blue 2×2. Which means r8c3 needs to be blue to avoid an orange 2×2. Which means r8c4 needs to be orange to avoid a blue 2×2. Which means r7c4 needs to be orange to avoid a checkerboard. Which means r6c4 needs to be blue to avoid an orange 2×2. It's probably possible to keep this going further, but those are the ones I can immediately visualise just from the current state of the grid 😅
OMG THE EXTREMIST!! Play Summer Song on your next video 🎸 🤘🏼
Was not expecting Simon to be a Satch fan
Joe Satriani is one of my influences, for sure. Completely with Simon on The Extremist. More like "the extremely good album" amirite?
camera went pixelly but the sudoka still as sharp at 45 mins or so
Fun! 107:57 for me after a misstep
"If a cell contains multiple arrows, each arrow is summed separately" is worrying, and Simon got distracted and glossed over this bit entirely. Then later at 26:37 Simon does something patently wrong (I'd thought), ignoring the second leg of a two-arrow cell and making deductions as if it had only one arrow! This is bad wording -- each arrow "is summed separately" means *what* in the context of the arrow cell? Does each leg separately yield the same sum, or do the separate sums together make the sum in the arrow! That is maddening!
After all.. summed separately is the only way you sum things. Each *digit* on an arrow is summed "separately"! Just think how many separate ways you could write that rule better, if it truly is meant that each arrow (in a given cell) sums to the *same* total. "Separately" helps nothing! And passive voice of "arrow is summed" does little to clarify the _sameness_ of each arrow sum with each other separate sum.
Joe Satriani is always worth a listen🎶🎸
You can add “dint of Cigness” to the CTC book of unusual phrases 😂
Wasn't it "dint of seeing-ness"?
(I admit, I groaned a little at that one.)
Edit 1:05:20 I misremembered. It was by "dint of see-age-ness", I think, which is even worse 😂
Edit 2: Or was it "C-age-ness" because it was labelled with the letter C? Maybe.
@@RichSmith77 lol I thought it was because he labeled it with C but idk…
I didn't quite understand the special rule case for cells with *TWO (2) arrows...*
I mean... I *THOUGHT* I did understand it, but then when Simon started filling them in and they turned out CORRECT (with HIS way), that's when I knew I had gotten it all wrong !! :O
Can anyone help to clarify, pls? :O
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"If a cell contains multiple arrows, each arrow is summed separately."
It just means if the cell value is X, then X is the sum in each arrow direction individually. You don't add the multiple directions together.
@@RichSmith77 aaah, right !! Gotcha now !! :)
Thanks!
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102:17, wasted like 15 minutes due to a misread of the rules, then like 25 minutes before I looked at the video to see 9 could only be in one of cell of column 9. Just putting the logic into my head took a really long time.
I wonder if anyone has done a puzzle where you have to derive the ruleset somehow. Would be a difficult task to make it a unique solution
I vaguely remember a video on ‘build your own sudoku’ along those lines. I can’t remember when it was though!
I found what I was thinking of. Video is called “I made this sudoku. Why did this other guy sign it” or something like that.
I feel like Simon has called me out personally as I almost always watch these solves at 1.5x speed... 8^)
r8c2 killed me
Welcome to What Might Simon Miss, where I state a mid-puzzle deduction, then we see whether Simon finds a more convoluted way of solving the puzzle. Check my reply to see whether he uses it or not. Today, Simon might miss (spoilers, obvs):
At 50:00, that the horizontal arrow in r6c6 restricts it to being exactly 3 (the one in r6c7) bigger than r6c9. This restricts this pair of cells to the values (7,4) (in that order).
This time it took Simon 3 minutes of video to find the deduction (at 54:00) that I did, so technically a loss. At least he got 2 digits before then. Maybe next time I'll find logic Simon doesn't
Am I the only who was screaming no they can't all be blue at 31:17 (ish)?
no, you were not alone. But as usually, Simon saw that just a little bit later.. You can't look at all the different ways at the same time.
56:57 for me. should have been better.
The puzzle (or ruleset) is broken, a sum is the addition of two or more numbers.
You want the total or summation, not sum.
I'm about to try this puzzle. Should I be counting the number of cells in the direction of the arrow? or adding up their values?
@@TimWalton0 Totaling their values.
@@iceberg54321thats finding the sum then
@@TimWalton0 Diagonal arrows are sometimes broken in the ruleset, as at least some are one digit additions. So you have to modify the ruleset to do the puzzle.