9:33 Angela starts getting sadder and more disoriented after James asks for a "little girl". It must have reminded her of something else. Damn, didn't notice that on my playthough.
I kinda like Angela in the remake more than the original. Not only does she look like an actual teenager, but also the voice actor does a really good job voicing her as a teenager. She really does sound childish, but with her history and how she grew up, shes still childish mentally at least a little. Like how she says 'mama'. Angela is very different in the remake, but i like it better honestly.
I do like the letter of Mary and the scene in the long hallway better in the original (just a little bit). But I really love Angela in the remake. She acts much more like women I know with similar story. Never thought they could make me feel more sad for her than they already did in the original. I also love how she looks like. Not perfect but still very pretty.
@@KE-yq2eg I didn't actually know that, and looked it up. And while I do see the point and actually like it, I also still like that idea that Angela looks like a teenager better in the remake. It feels better, and less awkward in a way. I know realistically that she would look old, due to the things she went through, but to me it also seemed better in the remake as she was. Angela in the remake seems depressed and somber looking when you find her looking the mirror. She's tired mentally and emotionally, and probably physically but that I don't know. It's clear to her that things are just horrible and not getting easier or finding her answers. She looks haggard while still looking like a teenager, but not looking like a full adult either. I think that's what the remake is going for. A haggard teenager, that is looking very clearly tired and exhausted every which way. Looking lost and just also seeming to have moments where it shows her mental state is a bit regressed to a childish state. I think both versions of Angela is perfect, with their respective flaws in portrayal, but I like the remake Angela more as I resonates with that version more. To me it is a version of Angela I can resonate more into her story as the writing and style made it easier for my brain to immerse in her story.
I agree. She does come across as an actual awkward teenager in the remake who has no one else to rely on. In contrast, in the OG, she come across as closer to Jame's age thus feeling less at the end of road.
Fun Fact: According to Masahiro Ito, early on in development of Silent Hill 2, there were supposed to be 2-3 protagonists with their own but connected journey. The idea was scrapped because it was too complicated at the time of its production and it culminated with James as the main protagonist and Eddie with Angela as supporting characters, each still with their own separate journey, but meeting with James at some points.
@@behl557 noooo 😭 It's so much better when left up to the imagination. Seeing the fire in the stairway scene is so effective because it's the one time you get a glimpse of how Angela sees things.
6:15 this hit me way harder than in the original. Hearing people think its ridiculous breaks my heart as someone whos been through abuse and has known abuse victims. Its not supposed to look incredible and be this amazing looking moment
I have had a hard time placing the emotion on Angela's face around 3:30 and it finally dawned on me. She's reveling in the idea, even for just a moment, that a man is scared of *her* for a change. UGH my heart.
Angela is an interesting character. After realizing she's basically covering herself up to prevent people sexualizing her and the comments flaming the devs for not is funny. It's also amazing how her facial expressions work with her voice so realistic.
I really don't get all the hate her character model got before launch. The OG, although a great character design at the time, didn't even remotely look like a late teenager. That and the general apathetic acting kinda downplayed the whole trauma aspect of her story. The remake's Angela, though, hit me super hard. Congratulations to her voice actress, she really did a stellar job.
@@LOEKASHbut not all victims are the same. in the remake they explored and expanded more ranges of how trauma can change your perception of things and your behaviour. they were very limited in the og bc the resources weren't the same. angela has mood swings, she is apathetic at times (when james finds her with the knife) and she can be nice or scared at others. (when james tries to comfort her)
@@onlinegirliee But that's my point. Neither game explored these theme's "wrongly", they were just slightly different. I find it stupid that he immediately goes to bashing the original as if that makes the remake better on its own. It doesn't.
13:40 I just love that reaction from James. It's like he's trying not to remember what he did to Mary, but also angry at Angela for even suggesting he did it so he could be with someone else. The voice acting in this game is absolutely top notch.
Angela was born and grew up in a poor and toxic family. Because of her violent, abusive and traumatic childhood, Angela was convinced that she would never truly find happiness in life, after being forced to lose her innocence as a child and grow up too fast. Her father, Thomas Orosco, an aggressive alcoholic lumberjack, sexually and physically abused her while inebriated throughout her life. This caused her to harbor much contempt towards men. In addition, Angela's brother would also abuse her incestuously, only adding to her trauma. Meanwhile Angela's mother frequently reminded her that she deserved her abuse and as a result, Angela endured it as she grew up. Although Angela's mother knew what was happening, she never intervened. It seems that Angela never told anyone outside her family about her sexual and physical abuse, possibly out of fear that her father will retaliate against her, embarrassment, and her not knowing anybody she can talk to.
I like both for different reasons. The original feels more apathetic as if the years of trauma have truly broken any emotional response. The new one feels more on edge that she's losing her innocence. It's good to see the same trauma depicted slightly differently as other people would experience it.
@@takezokimura2571 no it's not about stress! I look exactly same as my 19 years old now i'm 30 haha. People think by 30, you ll become wrinkled and old haha go see famous actresses photo of 19 years old and 30 years old they did not change at all.
Given that everything in this town is the manifestation of all the characters, and different person see different things. Angela must be confused as hell everytime James mention monsters, like when Laura, the little kid, ask James what monster? No wonder she keep thinking James want her or you only want "one thing".
Im convinced anyone who complains about her design in the remake have never once seen a woman in their life, let alone have the capacity to reallze that she looks 19 now in the remake rather then like 30 something in the original.
Holy shit, you're telling me a cherrypicked photo where the most unflattering angle was deliberately chosen isn't a completely accurate representation of the character?
Angela broke my heart. Her facial expressions, voice acting, movement, everything... those who know what it feels like can empathize. I can't get all the hate she received - maybe because it didn't meet some perverted waifu expectations? How ironic.
The “No you shouldnt be here” at the park isnt directed at James, instead she was starting to see Abstract daddy approaching, James cant see Abstract daddy until he goes into Angela’s otherworld.
i hate how people talked about her design. It reflects her character and what she's been through very well. Very different from how she was in the original game.
Nah breh she won't get touched looking like that if anything it's less indicative of what she went through. Ik what I'm saying is insensitive too but there's a point to be and this wasn't done for the character. They hired a consulting agency and this is exactly what they do bc they think women are ugly and not allowed to be pretty. If not this atleast what their actions say.
@@Wysterical that's the point. You guys are so high on your own farts he's really saying the way she looks leans more into her story when it leans the opposite. She designed the way she was in the og to suit that. This is a different direction and it's an ugly one
It REALLY doesn't reflect her character. Her looking youthful and healthy doesn't work at all and if anything is detrimental to her arch. I don't know what this other ignorant fool is on about her being attractive, in the OG she was far from it, and her voice literally sounds like someone with autism or something similar... there was much that was stripped away from her character and it's sad that this is now the new rendition that will be celebrated for years to come.
@@Ograwsif you find her dull, you’re supposed to. She’s depressed, even on the edge of taking her life in the mirror scene. Especially in the mirror scene her tone was so convincing, she sounded completely dissociated and dejected. Her and James’ voice acting I think is beyond what I would ever expect from voice acting, they’re exceptional to me.
@@Ograws lol have you heard the OG voice acting? it's terrible, this one feels more grounded, in the OG everything felt off, like Angela was perhaps another manifestation of James, and the way they talked to each other was odd. In this case, it feels like she was another person dragged by the town the same as James and Eddie, she feels depressed, and there is a feeling of struggle. Combine that with the fantastic minor changes of the OST. This is GOTY.
@@alanwashstuff216 The actress who plays Angela in the remake isn't bad per say. I just don't feel her performance was quite as strong as everybody else in the remake. You have to keep in mind that back in 2001, voice acting in video games still wasn't quite there just yet then in AAA titles. I think if the voice actress for Angela in the original tried to sound a little less cartoony she would have been perfect. Maria in the original I think is the only voice actress that did a better job than the remake. I even feel Laura in the remake was a bit of a letdown. While she didn't give a bad performance, the voice actress in the remake just sounded a little too grown up considering she is supposed to be a little kid.
I liked the remake Angela better. I don't mean to compare, but Her voice acting was great and brought back the same feeling I had when I first played Silent Hill 2.
@@alexarzamendi9475 Well she was sexually abused her entire childhood by her father and brother, and eventually she killed them to escape. Her home was a literal hell, so of course she's going to look rough.
The end is sad because we can see Angela has resigned herself to her fate, her trauma and everything she lived through having finally broken any resolve she had for closure or healing 😢
The unnatural sounding dialogue in the original was part of its brilliance and what made the characters so otherworldly. Sounds like you missed the point of the original.
@@JeremyJenner It has never been confirmed whether this is was intentional or not. Could just have been a lucky coincidence caused by bad translation.
@@JeremyJennerthey still sounding unnatural here like look at new angela? Sounds like some cheap soap drama's lousy actress. I don't know people prefer fake cry baby-ish way of acting that new angela doin? I thought this new angela trying too hard to act in some shakespear's play during some high school talent show.
they replaced the words "saved me" with "helping me back there" and "my knife" to "the knife" those changes change the weight of the whole encounter imo and impact It really downplays the significance of the actions and the personal stakes involved. "Saved me" carries a sense of life-changing gratitude, while "helping me" feels more casual and less urgent. The same goes for "my knife" it implies a personal connection or reliance, which is lost when it becomes just "the knife." Those little changes really shift how we feel about the moment. not trying to be an elitist but i'm genuinely sticking to the original.
@@Nachito96The scene made it pretty clear what was happening though, they changed the wording in favour of subtlety. I actually really appreciate that. Makes her struggles feel more personal, James isn’t obligated to know what she was planning in that moment. We’re able to infer. They put a bit more faith in the player to understand the context Also, notice that the wording makes it seem like she’s dissociating from that moment. We see Angela’s character dissociating a lot so I find it fitting that she’s not in touch with what she was thinking.
@@Nachito96 I see Angela saying 'thank you for helping me' instead of 'thank you for saving me' the same way I see Maria no longer screaming in terror when Pyramid Head is about to kill her; or Mary not apologizing to James (in her letter) for what she put him through/not being able to provide for him as much as he had for her. Seeing as they had one of those annoying DEI consultants helping with the game's development (and these morons are always about promoting strong women), the aforementioned moments were probably changed out of fear that leaving them as they were, all three women would look weak for being dependent on James in one form or another.
My favorite moment is when James, in the burning room, tells Angela that she was right, that what they were looking for no longer exists and she shakes her head and nods at the same time. Very sad.
Нравится этот персонаж и в оригинале, и в ремейке. Но нельзя не отметить, что они очень разные. В оригинальной игре я воспринимала Анжелу как взрослую женщину, но её временами детское поведение и привычка внезапно кричать хорошо передают застревание в травмированном детстве, неспособность вести себя на свой возраст и страх мужчин. Хорошо помню, какой диссонанс испытывала от несоответствия внешности и поведения
Wow Angela in the remake was really well down. I felt genuinely sad for her and the VA delivered her lines so well, the stair case scene broke me 😭14:49
I hope there will be expansion dlc extending her story, I wan to know what exactly happened to her after crossing the flames, and I hope there is a route that she can be saved.
Nah. Angela’s tragedy is intense not only due to it being, well, horrible, but also because of its ambiguity. Adding more details would lessen the impact.
James is the player/ Mary is Love. The embodiment of Love. Maria is Lust/ She would do everything, even die to get us. Angela is a guilty conscience. She is burning in its personal hell for what we've done. Laura is a soul. When Laura learns that we killed Mary she runs away.
The Remake's improved voice acting and character models made the characters seem more human, and I really felt for poor Angela! 💔 PS) People who whine about the looks of a traumatized victim of child abuse in a psychological horror game, are not mature enough to play Silent Hill 2.
Think this is the one time, especially at 8:16 where all she needed was a hug. James being the absolutely ignorant man that he is just didn't see it. Honestly left wishing there was an Angela ending. Just press X to hug and go with her instead. But he lacked commitment. So many people crave affection that never comes. All she wanted was for someone to genuinely care about her and you can tell between those moments when James denies her that she shatters.
I think I respectfully disagree. Angela already suffers from @buse, so I think physical contact, even an innocent hug, would scare her, like it has whenever he would take even just two steps towards her. She does deserve appreciation I agree , which leads me to think he shouldn’t have said ‘alive’, because to me she had a deflated response to that.
James isn't ignorant, he's just dealing with his own demons and isn't in the right mental state to care for others. Hugging Angela is a terrible idea when she has a severe phobia of men due to her SA, which you can see every time how violent she reacts whenever James tries to get closer to her, either to grab the knife or to comfort her after killing Abstract Daddy. Besides, Angela put it best in the flaming staircase: anything James would've done would've been out of meaningless pity in her eyes.
Pretty sure she ventured into our otherworld and pieced together what happened to Mary, same as us understanding she's a rape victims when our otherworlds overlaps
they replaced the words "saved me" with "helping me back there" and "my knife" to "the knife" those changes change the weight of the whole encounter imo and impact It really downplays the significance of the actions and the personal stakes involved. "Saved me" carries a sense of life-changing gratitude, while "helping me" feels more casual and less urgent. The same goes for "my knife" it implies a personal connection or reliance, which is lost when it becomes just "the knife." Those little changes really shift how we feel about the moment. not trying to be an elitist but i'm genuinely sticking to the original.
I feel like in the grand scheme this is a really miniscule nit-pick. I have plenty of criticisms about the remake, but the direction, facial animation, and line delivery on the cutscenes really vastly outweigh any negatives you may perceive with a few lines being adjusted. Even with that, these cutscenes are so much more visceral and compelling than the original. They were more eerie for sure, but these properly convey the despair of Angela's plot. I mean, there is no "life-changing gratitude" she succumbs to her own despair in the end. I think it perfectly encapsulates how detached she is from everything.
why should there be "life-changing gratitude"? she literally said immediately after that that she wished he hadn't, and then walked into the fire to presumably burn lmao
what is with these people fussing over small line changes. if you’re gonna dislike it, at least dislike it over something more than “she said ‘the knife’ instead of ‘my knife’!!!”
Couldn’t agree more with you. And that’s the game on the whole. Every criticism I see given is hand waved away by saying it’s a nit pick. The last scene of Angela on the stairs has lost almost all of its atmosphere and weight.
How is Angela supposed to be 19? Is that actually canon? I always got the impression that she was in her mid to late 30s like James and had come back to SH after being gone for a number of years. This Angela is way more childish, the original character seemed pretty good at keeping a lid on her emotions most of the time except under extreme duress. This Angela is flying off the handle any chance she gets it becomes like a caricature after awhile. I also don’t like how James just leaves at the end you used to be able to follow Angela pretty far up that staircase before the fire blocks you and you watch her disappear
I always interpreted it as her carrying the weight of all the years she was abused. Was that the intention? Probably not. It could've just been a mistake, but I think that interpretation nonetheless added to it. Silent Hill is difficult to criticize from an unbiased perspective.
The original is also 19 They made her intentionally look and sound older as an indicator of what she went through and even the VA Donna Burke was in her mid 30s when she voiced Angela in the OG
@@PaulaNaBussa-x1n She is 19 years old, everybody in this city is messed up, so because she was SA she doesn't deserve to live a better life? It would be better for James to start a new life than search for a dead woman that himself have killed, James looks older in the remake but he is actually just 29 years old
man when i first heard about angela it was about how they changed her all because of some dei team and i admit i was skeptical after hearing about it as i just seen bad experiences with dei teams and the harm they can do to a product and i just feel they don't truly feel they dont know how to do diverse characters right and usually they make the characters fit some sort of agenda or and make the characters worst as a result and just really come across tone deaf and unlikeable so i wasnt sure about on playing this game but seeing it now it doesnt look too bad and actually the portrayal and design looks like it tells me something deep about her. she makes me think of a teen who has been through her own personal hell and my guess is it sounds like she struggled with selfending thoughts, maybe some bullying or abuse and maybe some disabilities by maybe the sounds of how she talks and acts but yesh the the way they kinda made adjustments to these characters is interesting. and want to make it clear that diverse characters are not bad or always a sign that a game has a malicious agenda or motive. there are media that tackle these subjects without out having some agenda behind it. but there of course is the media, i'm looking at you dustborne and velma that tackles diverse subjects like this in a laughable manner that just makes me groan or not want to take the game or show seriously. this game i dont think is going to be one of those. and also didnt play the original silent hill so please tell me if missed something or why the character design is better or worst in comparison to the original.
you know what else is interesting? the characters sound so awkward but i don't think in a bad voice acting way but almost like the characters are uncomfortable and don't really trust one another. it's interesting.
@@pedroventura2180 oh okay. i mean i didnt think she looked ugly before, she looked alright but i guess small changes can make a world of a difference you know?
“You see it too? For me, it’s always like this.”
A single line changes the entire context of the game and subsequent playthroughs
9:33 Angela starts getting sadder and more disoriented after James asks for a "little girl". It must have reminded her of something else. Damn, didn't notice that on my playthough.
Seems to be what caused whatever threatening thing she saw to appear as well.
When he says have you seen a little girl and she repeats it .......I'm assuming her DAD appears ...
I kinda like Angela in the remake more than the original. Not only does she look like an actual teenager, but also the voice actor does a really good job voicing her as a teenager.
She really does sound childish, but with her history and how she grew up, shes still childish mentally at least a little. Like how she says 'mama'. Angela is very different in the remake, but i like it better honestly.
I do like the letter of Mary and the scene in the long hallway better in the original (just a little bit). But I really love Angela in the remake. She acts much more like women I know with similar story. Never thought they could make me feel more sad for her than they already did in the original. I also love how she looks like. Not perfect but still very pretty.
You do know it was on purpose that she wasn't supposed to look or sound like a teenager, right?
@@KE-yq2eg I didn't actually know that, and looked it up. And while I do see the point and actually like it, I also still like that idea that Angela looks like a teenager better in the remake. It feels better, and less awkward in a way. I know realistically that she would look old, due to the things she went through, but to me it also seemed better in the remake as she was.
Angela in the remake seems depressed and somber looking when you find her looking the mirror. She's tired mentally and emotionally, and probably physically but that I don't know. It's clear to her that things are just horrible and not getting easier or finding her answers. She looks haggard while still looking like a teenager, but not looking like a full adult either. I think that's what the remake is going for. A haggard teenager, that is looking very clearly tired and exhausted every which way. Looking lost and just also seeming to have moments where it shows her mental state is a bit regressed to a childish state.
I think both versions of Angela is perfect, with their respective flaws in portrayal, but I like the remake Angela more as I resonates with that version more. To me it is a version of Angela I can resonate more into her story as the writing and style made it easier for my brain to immerse in her story.
I agree. She does come across as an actual awkward teenager in the remake who has no one else to rely on. In contrast, in the OG, she come across as closer to Jame's age thus feeling less at the end of road.
Yeah as if you played the original
Fun Fact: According to Masahiro Ito, early on in development of Silent Hill 2, there were supposed to be 2-3 protagonists with their own but connected journey. The idea was scrapped because it was too complicated at the time of its production and it culminated with James as the main protagonist and Eddie with Angela as supporting characters, each still with their own separate journey, but meeting with James at some points.
I guess they can make dlc out of that
@@behl557 noooo 😭 It's so much better when left up to the imagination. Seeing the fire in the stairway scene is so effective because it's the one time you get a glimpse of how Angela sees things.
oh man. that would've been really cool actually
uff, muy ambicioso para su epoca, incluso para ahora :/
that’s a cool concept, maybe for a future game ?
6:15 this hit me way harder than in the original. Hearing people think its ridiculous breaks my heart as someone whos been through abuse and has known abuse victims. Its not supposed to look incredible and be this amazing looking moment
I had a friend like Angela. Her character is very accurate. God bless victims of abuse.
да, я тоже очень удивлен. меня поразил этот момент особенно сильно. никогда не забуду ощущения от этой сцены в ремейке.
8:42 look at my girls reaction. This is probably the first time in her life someone said they are happy to see her. 😢
Only to sadly be put back down, James just.. deep down doesn't really care. Not in a hateful way but just hasn't a connection that Angela seeks.
I love all these cutscenes with her. The voice actress did amazing. She made me believe she’s real, confused, and suffering.
voice acting's great but i cant take it seriously with the fat face she's rocking.
10:03 honestly that reaction was heartbreaking. James didn’t understand at first
I have had a hard time placing the emotion on Angela's face around 3:30 and it finally dawned on me. She's reveling in the idea, even for just a moment, that a man is scared of *her* for a change.
UGH my heart.
That poor girl went through so much :( her ending is the saddest in the game
Does she really... not make it in the end? Never knew, but it looks like.
@@jeanzinc739she dies once she reaches the top of the stairway
@@amaramyself By what?
@@jeanzinc739 fire?
@@jeanzinc739 she dies, it’s implied by the end of the labyrinth section that Eddie, James and Angela are all destined to die
Angela is an interesting character. After realizing she's basically covering herself up to prevent people sexualizing her and the comments flaming the devs for not is funny. It's also amazing how her facial expressions work with her voice so realistic.
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That new scene in the park is great. I hope thats a sign of writing to expect in future titles. The music in that scene is beautiful also.
I really don't get all the hate her character model got before launch. The OG, although a great character design at the time, didn't even remotely look like a late teenager. That and the general apathetic acting kinda downplayed the whole trauma aspect of her story. The remake's Angela, though, hit me super hard. Congratulations to her voice actress, she really did a stellar job.
Isn't apathy a very common response to trauma? In fact, isn't that how James suppresses what he did?
@@LOEKASHbut not all victims are the same. in the remake they explored and expanded more ranges of how trauma can change your perception of things and your behaviour. they were very limited in the og bc the resources weren't the same. angela has mood swings, she is apathetic at times (when james finds her with the knife) and she can be nice or scared at others. (when james tries to comfort her)
@@onlinegirliee But that's my point. Neither game explored these theme's "wrongly", they were just slightly different. I find it stupid that he immediately goes to bashing the original as if that makes the remake better on its own. It doesn't.
Think people are bothered she looks less sexy. Except shes supposed to be a teenager.
They wanted to make her look older- they stated it was an intentional choice- just explaining because it shouldn’t be a complaint
13:40 I just love that reaction from James. It's like he's trying not to remember what he did to Mary, but also angry at Angela for even suggesting he did it so he could be with someone else. The voice acting in this game is absolutely top notch.
Angela was born and grew up in a poor and toxic family. Because of her violent, abusive and traumatic childhood, Angela was convinced that she would never truly find happiness in life, after being forced to lose her innocence as a child and grow up too fast.
Her father, Thomas Orosco, an aggressive alcoholic lumberjack, sexually and physically abused her while inebriated throughout her life. This caused her to harbor much contempt towards men. In addition, Angela's brother would also abuse her incestuously, only adding to her trauma. Meanwhile Angela's mother frequently reminded her that she deserved her abuse and as a result, Angela endured it as she grew up. Although Angela's mother knew what was happening, she never intervened. It seems that Angela never told anyone outside her family about her sexual and physical abuse, possibly out of fear that her father will retaliate against her, embarrassment, and her not knowing anybody she can talk to.
And according to the newspaper article, she murders her dad and her brother
Angela is 19yo and looks now more her age than in the original game...my opinion
I mean, heavy stress will make you age faster, although OG Angela still look a bit too old.
I like both for different reasons. The original feels more apathetic as if the years of trauma have truly broken any emotional response. The new one feels more on edge that she's losing her innocence. It's good to see the same trauma depicted slightly differently as other people would experience it.
plus she is heavely traumatised and stress , she look young and old because of her trauma. This is well executed.
@@takezokimura2571 no it's not about stress! I look exactly same as my 19 years old now i'm 30 haha. People think by 30, you ll become wrinkled and old haha go see famous actresses photo of 19 years old and 30 years old they did not change at all.
And yet still looks worse
Given that everything in this town is the manifestation of all the characters, and different person see different things. Angela must be confused as hell everytime James mention monsters, like when Laura, the little kid, ask James what monster? No wonder she keep thinking James want her or you only want "one thing".
What that one thing means?
@@shandilesmanahidayat7131sex I guess
@@shandilesmanahidayat7131 Angela was abused, so she thinks James wants sex from her. But it's not outright stated.
Didn’t she mention the town was dangerous at the start? Also she does enter an otherworld which aren’t very happy places either.
@@shandilesmanahidayat7131 She says that he's only after "one thing" because she thinks that he wants to sleep with her, when that's not true.
she looks like a teenager that's been through some trauma imo. her va is stellar. i look forward to revisiting Silent Hill!!!
Im convinced anyone who complains about her design in the remake have never once seen a woman in their life, let alone have the capacity to reallze that she looks 19 now in the remake rather then like 30 something in the original.
Its because they are forced to realize that the average teenager/young adult doesn't look like a well curved woman in her mid 30s
These people are abuser themselves. I'm sure of it. F'n manchilds
I'm glad seeing a comment like this from a person, who has still a brain :)
Nah they just understand that she looks older in the original because the trauma and stress she goes through made her look a lot older.
@@totallynotinsane3327 It's not soo common to look older. Traumatized or not :)
17:42 this shot is beautiful
agree!
Poor Angela, that was probably the first time someone said they were happy to see her
When I first saw her model in the trailers I thought she looked weird. Her new look has kind of grown on me.
Same here, Jame's model also grew on me too. He actually looks a broken man in his thirties.
Yeah, thank God they listened to the fans, her face looked so weird at first
Holy shit, you're telling me a cherrypicked photo where the most unflattering angle was deliberately chosen isn't a completely accurate representation of the character?
At least she looks the age she's supposed to
I find her cute to be true.
Angela broke my heart. Her facial expressions, voice acting, movement, everything... those who know what it feels like can empathize. I can't get all the hate she received - maybe because it didn't meet some perverted waifu expectations? How ironic.
The “No you shouldnt be here” at the park isnt directed at James, instead she was starting to see Abstract daddy approaching, James cant see Abstract daddy until he goes into Angela’s otherworld.
Always gets me teary eyed.
Angela might be one of the saddest and most pitiful characters in video game history.
She's such a sad character and one of deepest in this game.
Man, this game reminded me again why it is the best game in its genre. The atmosphere, dialogues, everything is perfect,, PERFECT!
i love angela so much she is so important to me
i hate how people talked about her design.
It reflects her character and what she's been through very well.
Very different from how she was in the original game.
Nah breh she won't get touched looking like that if anything it's less indicative of what she went through. Ik what I'm saying is insensitive too but there's a point to be and this wasn't done for the character. They hired a consulting agency and this is exactly what they do bc they think women are ugly and not allowed to be pretty. If not this atleast what their actions say.
@@liquidtruth7954dude thats super fucked up what you just said holy shit.
@@liquidtruth7954dude thats super fked up what you just said. Holy shiet.
@@Wysterical that's the point. You guys are so high on your own farts he's really saying the way she looks leans more into her story when it leans the opposite. She designed the way she was in the og to suit that. This is a different direction and it's an ugly one
It REALLY doesn't reflect her character. Her looking youthful and healthy doesn't work at all and if anything is detrimental to her arch.
I don't know what this other ignorant fool is on about her being attractive, in the OG she was far from it, and her voice literally sounds like someone with autism or something similar... there was much that was stripped away from her character and it's sad that this is now the new rendition that will be celebrated for years to come.
Average gamer here is like: "Wow they made her so ugly, I've never seen a woman"
It’s more like “Wow they made her so ugly, I bet they’ve never seen a real woman like (insert fictional character here)”
Angela is one of the best characters written in fiction.
this is perfect, the actress is a good choice!
Nah I think she's the weakest actress in the remake
@@Ograwsif you find her dull, you’re supposed to. She’s depressed, even on the edge of taking her life in the mirror scene. Especially in the mirror scene her tone was so convincing, she sounded completely dissociated and dejected. Her and James’ voice acting I think is beyond what I would ever expect from voice acting, they’re exceptional to me.
@@Ograws lol have you heard the OG voice acting? it's terrible, this one feels more grounded, in the OG everything felt off, like Angela was perhaps another manifestation of James, and the way they talked to each other was odd. In this case, it feels like she was another person dragged by the town the same as James and Eddie, she feels depressed, and there is a feeling of struggle. Combine that with the fantastic minor changes of the OST. This is GOTY.
@@alanwashstuff216 The actress who plays Angela in the remake isn't bad per say. I just don't feel her performance was quite as strong as everybody else in the remake. You have to keep in mind that back in 2001, voice acting in video games still wasn't quite there just yet then in AAA titles. I think if the voice actress for Angela in the original tried to sound a little less cartoony she would have been perfect. Maria in the original I think is the only voice actress that did a better job than the remake. I even feel Laura in the remake was a bit of a letdown. While she didn't give a bad performance, the voice actress in the remake just sounded a little too grown up considering she is supposed to be a little kid.
@@Ograws
I dont think a traumatized person is supposed to sound melodramatic. Thats why I think Angela’s remake voice sounds more accurate
Second cut scene is just wooooooow!!!! Brutal original soundtrack!!!!
I think she’s pretty cute in the remake personally. But damn what happened to her breaks my heart. In her own mind, she was too far gone.
She sounded bipolar & hysterical in the original, in this version she's way more muted and depressed.
I liked the remake Angela better. I don't mean to compare, but Her voice acting was great and brought back the same feeling I had when I first played Silent Hill 2.
The soundtrack of this game is mesmerising
“I don’t wanna make a joke about this one!l-Doobus Goobus
I don't get the people who were complaining about remake Angela's look. She looks fine...
She's ugly, and fat.
@@thefuckerwithnamealiks What are you? Anorexic?
Porn and anime broke a lot of people's brains
@@brucesnow7125really rough looking 19 y/o tbh 😅
@@alexarzamendi9475 Well she was sexually abused her entire childhood by her father and brother, and eventually she killed them to escape. Her home was a literal hell, so of course she's going to look rough.
She is my favourite character in this game.
Am I crazy or are these 5 cutscenes all representations of the 5 stages of grief
The end is sad because we can see Angela has resigned herself to her fate, her trauma and everything she lived through having finally broken any resolve she had for closure or healing 😢
The dialogue is so much better now, it actually sounds like real people talking lol
Half of it is exactly the same lol
Dialogue and voice acting is clearly worse
The unnatural sounding dialogue in the original was part of its brilliance and what made the characters so otherworldly. Sounds like you missed the point of the original.
@@JeremyJenner It has never been confirmed whether this is was intentional or not. Could just have been a lucky coincidence caused by bad translation.
@@JeremyJennerthey still sounding unnatural here like look at new angela? Sounds like some cheap soap drama's lousy actress. I don't know people prefer fake cry baby-ish way of acting that new angela doin? I thought this new angela trying too hard to act in some shakespear's play during some high school talent show.
They remove the dialog "I would never killed myself" interesting...
*I would never
they replaced the words "saved me" with "helping me back there" and "my knife" to "the knife" those changes change the weight of the whole encounter imo and impact It really downplays the significance of the actions and the personal stakes involved. "Saved me" carries a sense of life-changing gratitude, while "helping me" feels more casual and less urgent. The same goes for "my knife" it implies a personal connection or reliance, which is lost when it becomes just "the knife." Those little changes really shift how we feel about the moment.
not trying to be an elitist but i'm genuinely sticking to the original.
@@Nachito96The scene made it pretty clear what was happening though, they changed the wording in favour of subtlety. I actually really appreciate that. Makes her struggles feel more personal, James isn’t obligated to know what she was planning in that moment. We’re able to infer. They put a bit more faith in the player to understand the context
Also, notice that the wording makes it seem like she’s dissociating from that moment. We see Angela’s character dissociating a lot so I find it fitting that she’s not in touch with what she was thinking.
@@Nachito96 I see Angela saying 'thank you for helping me' instead of 'thank you for saving me' the same way I see Maria no longer screaming in terror when Pyramid Head is about to kill her; or Mary not apologizing to James (in her letter) for what she put him through/not being able to provide for him as much as he had for her.
Seeing as they had one of those annoying DEI consultants helping with the game's development (and these morons are always about promoting strong women), the aforementioned moments were probably changed out of fear that leaving them as they were, all three women would look weak for being dependent on James in one form or another.
@@madamefluffy4788You are annoying.
7:07 how is that this music both in this and Piglet’s Big Game?
I couldnt even begin to imagine what angela's versukn of silent hill looks like. This game really is just pure heart wrenching grief and sadness
My favorite moment is when James, in the burning room, tells Angela that she was right, that what they were looking for no longer exists and she shakes her head and nods at the same time. Very sad.
The Flaming Staircase scene is one of the saddest cutscenes I've ever seen in a video game. Truly heartbreaking
Нравится этот персонаж и в оригинале, и в ремейке. Но нельзя не отметить, что они очень разные. В оригинальной игре я воспринимала Анжелу как взрослую женщину, но её временами детское поведение и привычка внезапно кричать хорошо передают застревание в травмированном детстве, неспособность вести себя на свой возраст и страх мужчин. Хорошо помню, какой диссонанс испытывала от несоответствия внешности и поведения
Wow Angela in the remake was really well down. I felt genuinely sad for her and the VA delivered her lines so well, the stair case scene broke me 😭14:49
I hope there will be expansion dlc extending her story, I wan to know what exactly happened to her after crossing the flames, and I hope there is a route that she can be saved.
The original and remake basically the final she Is dead
In Silent Hill being killed is not the worst outcome. Worse is getting trapped in a cycle, or becoming a ghost/manifestation.
Nah. Angela’s tragedy is intense not only due to it being, well, horrible, but also because of its ambiguity. Adding more details would lessen the impact.
I don’t know why people hated he design. I this is looks cute
Angela's acting in this one is awesome!
The knife scene with angela, with the music behind it, never felt that emotional over a video game.
7:17 Was this soundtrack removed in the updates? because in some gameplays that I see, Angela's scene is without music.
I think so. It was definitely in the launch version. I am also desperately looking for the track ID.
@@rainbowrambo7093 “Chthonic Symphony”
@@mr.hashundredsofprivatepla3711 thank u ive been looking for this one
In the beginning you rlly couldn’t tell she was mentally unwell but during the knife scene very noticable
The scene of the Abstract daddy really touched me. 🥺 Poor Angela. 💔💔
ANGELA: "I'm looking for my MAMA! It's been so long since I've SEEN HER!"
JAMES: (Run away) AHHHHHHHHH!
ANGELA: "Was it something I said?"
omg! i had completely forgotten about that video ! haha
the people complaining about her look here in a way, are only really here for "one thing"
They’re proving her point
She is so... broken.
I can fix her
I love her ao much ❤❤❤😢 poor girl
James is the player/
Mary is Love. The embodiment of Love.
Maria is Lust/ She would do everything, even die to get us.
Angela is a guilty conscience. She is burning in its personal hell for what we've done.
Laura is a soul. When Laura learns that we killed Mary she runs away.
Such a beautiful yet tragic story
She didn't deserve to end up in Silent Hill imo, she was desperate for the abuse to stop and saw killing her father as the only way out
from this scene, the new angela does a good job, the new james feels flat
I've always thought that Angela was looking for her mom to actually kill her as she did with her dad and brother
Does anyone know why they decided to remove the track that plays in the background during the park scene?
Really missing the "Looooooooost?"
The acting in this game is phenomenal.
The Remake's improved voice acting and character models made the characters seem more human, and I really felt for poor Angela! 💔 PS) People who whine about the looks of a traumatized victim of child abuse in a psychological horror game, are not mature enough to play Silent Hill 2.
breaks my heart everytime she is on screen. hits too close
I find it funny that all these people have never seen a woman with a wide face.. like? Woman have wide faced or round faces too.
Think this is the one time, especially at 8:16 where all she needed was a hug. James being the absolutely ignorant man that he is just didn't see it. Honestly left wishing there was an Angela ending. Just press X to hug and go with her instead. But he lacked commitment. So many people crave affection that never comes. All she wanted was for someone to genuinely care about her and you can tell between those moments when James denies her that she shatters.
I think I respectfully disagree. Angela already suffers from @buse, so I think physical contact, even an innocent hug, would scare her, like it has whenever he would take even just two steps towards her. She does deserve appreciation I agree , which leads me to think he shouldn’t have said ‘alive’, because to me she had a deflated response to that.
James isn't ignorant, he's just dealing with his own demons and isn't in the right mental state to care for others. Hugging Angela is a terrible idea when she has a severe phobia of men due to her SA, which you can see every time how violent she reacts whenever James tries to get closer to her, either to grab the knife or to comfort her after killing Abstract Daddy.
Besides, Angela put it best in the flaming staircase: anything James would've done would've been out of meaningless pity in her eyes.
07:06 se parece al OST Foreboding 1 de Piglet Big Game
Does anyone know the track name that starts playing during 7:12 ?
cthonic symphony
i can relate with angela on my childhood
angel(a)
13:30 name OST?
Did u find it!?
Null moon i think
7:09 Piglet game
what's the song at 7:10?
Cthonic symphony - silent hill 2 original soundtrack 2024 by Akira Yamaoka
I have to give her mocap and her VA 12/12 tho,cuz she sounds like an actual teen compare the og one
just give her a hug dammit!
I dont think she would want that after all of that😬
What's the name of music at the start 13.05 ? I can't find in the soundtrack
After Daddy
@mr.hashundredsofprivatepla3711 thank you. When i was write this comment i cant find it even with shazam. But yesterday shazam was find finally.
It's emotional and I felt sorry...how sad
Music in 7:24?
Cthonic symphony - silent hill 2 original soundtrack 2024 by Akira Yamaoka
2:52 ost name plss
Promise (Reprise)
Why Angela talk about Mary in such annoying way? (After killing her "daddy")
Thats the town not Angela.
@@alaminmdtanvir3361 town? Really?
It’s the Silent Hill town that is punishing her
Pretty sure she ventured into our otherworld and pieced together what happened to Mary, same as us understanding she's a rape victims when our otherworlds overlaps
they replaced the words "saved me" with "helping me back there" and "my knife" to "the knife" those changes change the weight of the whole encounter imo and impact It really downplays the significance of the actions and the personal stakes involved. "Saved me" carries a sense of life-changing gratitude, while "helping me" feels more casual and less urgent. The same goes for "my knife" it implies a personal connection or reliance, which is lost when it becomes just "the knife." Those little changes really shift how we feel about the moment.
not trying to be an elitist but i'm genuinely sticking to the original.
I feel like in the grand scheme this is a really miniscule nit-pick. I have plenty of criticisms about the remake, but the direction, facial animation, and line delivery on the cutscenes really vastly outweigh any negatives you may perceive with a few lines being adjusted. Even with that, these cutscenes are so much more visceral and compelling than the original. They were more eerie for sure, but these properly convey the despair of Angela's plot. I mean, there is no "life-changing gratitude" she succumbs to her own despair in the end. I think it perfectly encapsulates how detached she is from everything.
What a Nitpicky Guy you are
why should there be "life-changing gratitude"? she literally said immediately after that that she wished he hadn't, and then walked into the fire to presumably burn lmao
what is with these people fussing over small line changes. if you’re gonna dislike it, at least dislike it over something more than “she said ‘the knife’ instead of ‘my knife’!!!”
Couldn’t agree more with you. And that’s the game on the whole. Every criticism I see given is hand waved away by saying it’s a nit pick.
The last scene of Angela on the stairs has lost almost all of its atmosphere and weight.
if i were james when angela said go ahead say it......
Fine i hate to admit it.....I'M BATMAN and walks away into darkest corner
How is Angela supposed to be 19? Is that actually canon? I always got the impression that she was in her mid to late 30s like James and had come back to SH after being gone for a number of years. This Angela is way more childish, the original character seemed pretty good at keeping a lid on her emotions most of the time except under extreme duress. This Angela is flying off the handle any chance she gets it becomes like a caricature after awhile. I also don’t like how James just leaves at the end you used to be able to follow Angela pretty far up that staircase before the fire blocks you and you watch her disappear
I always interpreted it as her carrying the weight of all the years she was abused. Was that the intention? Probably not. It could've just been a mistake, but I think that interpretation nonetheless added to it. Silent Hill is difficult to criticize from an unbiased perspective.
@@LOEKASH she always came off to me as an old soul, like I said especially the way she tried hard to keep a lid on her emotions most of the time
The original is also 19
They made her intentionally look and sound older as an indicator of what she went through and even the VA Donna Burke was in her mid 30s when she voiced Angela in the OG
Team silent wanted her to be 16-17 with an older design- officially from their own mouth
She looks like a mii character
The face of Angela looks kinda bloated to me.
thats kindof the point
Nah, she's just 19yrs. old and still has some baby fat in the face.
Why does that matter?
If i were James i would try to start a new life with Angela
Bro 💀
Angela is a Teenager who was SA'D
@@PaulaNaBussa-x1n She is 19 years old, everybody in this city is messed up, so because she was SA she doesn't deserve to live a better life? It would be better for James to start a new life than search for a dead woman that himself have killed, James looks older in the remake but he is actually just 29 years old
@@PaulaNaBussa-x1n Você é brasileira? kkkkkkkk
It'd be good maybe, if Angela wasn't shattered beyond repair and salvation.
and they will be what, the troubled couple?
I don't care about her look I just wanna fight Pyramid Head .
Then why are you here? 😂
@@LOEKASHthe fact that people are talking shit about her look .
@@joshuasparks3535 Then you do care.
@@LOEKASH like I said I just wanna fight Pyramid Head .
@@joshuasparks3535 Then go play the game instead of commenting on videos that have nothing to do with Pyramid Head
Everything is off
man when i first heard about angela it was about how they changed her all because of some dei team and i admit i was skeptical after hearing about it as i just seen bad experiences with dei teams and the harm they can do to a product and i just feel they don't truly feel they dont know how to do diverse characters right and usually they make the characters fit some sort of agenda or and make the characters worst as a result and just really come across tone deaf and unlikeable so i wasnt sure about on playing this game but seeing it now it doesnt look too bad and actually the portrayal and design looks like it tells me something deep about her. she makes me think of a teen who has been through her own personal hell and my guess is it sounds like she struggled with selfending thoughts, maybe some bullying or abuse and maybe some disabilities by maybe the sounds of how she talks and acts but yesh the the way they kinda made adjustments to these characters is interesting. and want to make it clear that diverse characters are not bad or always a sign that a game has a malicious agenda or motive. there are media that tackle these subjects without out having some agenda behind it. but there of course is the media, i'm looking at you dustborne and velma that tackles diverse subjects like this in a laughable manner that just makes me groan or not want to take the game or show seriously. this game i dont think is going to be one of those. and also didnt play the original silent hill so please tell me if missed something or why the character design is better or worst in comparison to the original.
angela: dont hurt me like everyone else does!
james: girl! i'm married!
you know what else is interesting? the characters sound so awkward but i don't think in a bad voice acting way but almost like the characters are uncomfortable and don't really trust one another. it's interesting.
It's because they changed the first design, the face was more chubby and with larger eyebrows
Stream of consciousness
@@pedroventura2180 oh okay. i mean i didnt think she looked ugly before, she looked alright but i guess small changes can make a world of a difference you know?
That was terrible! The face animations, the emotions feeling forced not flowing naturally.
Ill stick to the original version.
Why did they make Angela look so goofy in the remake? She was much prettier in the original
womp womp
Why does that matter?
I don't think she looks bad at all, but it's not angela. James already looks different but with angela it's like they didn't care
Angela is supposed to be a Teenager
@@PaulaNaBussa-x1nso all teenage girls look like men
They made a change. It was a good change. The old was ehh, new ones better.
Feels so soulless.
They've butchered Promise reprise
How?
They've deviated too much from the original soundtrack. It sounds fan made, over complicated.
@@fdshybgv46twgs5ssrjufhfg-pf7lf
No it doesnt. It still sounds like Promise reprise