When my sister was playing through FFVIII I would be watching her play and add my own commentary throughout, so after she got Odin, anytime he showed up I would create random dialogue for him that she would respond to. So by the time she reached this fight, we had this full personality for Odin and she had gotten really attached to him, which made it really fun to watch her reaction to his getting killed.
You know what most people miss about this moment in the game? The fact that Gilgamesh is crippled, tattered, and missing 3 of his arms. Astute fans will remember that in Final fantasy 5(his last appearance) he is catastrophically injured and broken in his final battle to save the heros. Makes one wonder.
In the Japanese version of Gilgamesh's dialogue here, he basically says "Is that you, Ba..." and it has the first character of Bartz's name. That along with his design and mention of a dimensional interval - a direct allusion to 5 - and it's basically hinting that this is the same Gilgamesh from 5.
most ironic part is my luck really sucked in this game. From the moment I got Odin to the point I fought Seifer he literally NEVER showed, not even ones. So I nearly forgot about him, then he finally showed during the battle with Seifer (me not knowing this was a scripted summon) I went like "Finally! make yourself useful!" and then he got cut in half...
Actually based on the original lines... This Gilgamesh is the one we all loved from FFV as he almost said Bartz's name till it was cut short... And if you noticed that he lost all his arms on the left side which makes sense when you considered that he sacrificed himself to protect Bartz...
I'd forgotten just how badass Gilgamesh's moment here was. The way he just walks off in particular after owning Seifer was just dripping with awesomeness. This guy needs his own fucking game already.
The even funnier thing is that Gilgamesh is a joke character in V and even in this version of him, he's missing arms from the fight in V. Still has an amazing theme though
I remember the first time I got to this battle and seeing "Zantetsuken" appear, thinking: "Sweet. That's lucky. C ya later Seifer !", only for Seifer to cut Odin in half. My jaw dropped to the floor and my thought changed to: "Oh shiiiiiiiit".
@@j3bus141 Quite a bit of Gilgamesh dialogue was muddled up in localization. He was suppose to mistaken you for Bartz from FF5 and the "dimensional interval" was suppose to be "the rift" or "the dimensional rift" from FF5, the place of the final confrontation and also where Gilgamesh was banished to, and got horribly lost in.
Alright Seifer...sassing your peers on a regular basis is one thing. Deliberately disobeying orders because you want to fight is one thing. Abusing a dog because it's just there is one thing. Using your best friends as your personal pawns is one thing. Stabbing the good guys in the back is one thing. Triggering the worst boss in the game is one thing. Trying to kill your ex-girlfriend is one thing. Trying to kill, torture, and break the protagonist for no real reason is one thing. Being a total buttocks about everything you do is one thing. But when you brutally kill not only a GF, but a beloved classic summon, AND HIS HORSE, and then gloat about it?! Oooh, NOW IT'S PERSONAL. I'm glad Gilgs blasted you away a-la Team Rocket.
@@Aster_Iris dunno if you've played the game, but in the ending scenes, he's with fujin and raijin either at Balamb or Fishermen's Horizon...well fishing with them and shoving Raijin into the water for being better at it, so no he ain't in jail, even though he should be for all the stuff he caused, all for just trying to play at being a knight.
This is great having recently played FFV for the first time and shortly after returning to complete FFVIII 16 years after I last played. Gilgamesh in FFV references being banished into an interdimensional plane outside of time before crossing paths with your party once again. I love that this meant he travelled around time and space, stopping to fight Seifer in FFVIII (and other later games I believe) before eventually returning to FFV. He's got next to no role in this game but he had a nice low key character arc as a recurring boss in V.
Gotta love how Gilgamesh makes his bad ass entrance, blows Seifer away, and then just.... forgets how to leave. "Where is the Dimensional Interval?!" *shuffles around looking* "Oh, here we go." *leaves*
Gilgamesh's first debut was in ff5, he was a sub boss in ff5. In that game he was defeated by player for several stages，the last boss-Exdeath felt angry and send him into the dimension interval
This is a reference to FF5. Your last encounter with him, he finds the Excalipoor -- not the Excalibur. But anyway. He's sent to the interdimensional rift (Dimensional Interval). The person he's asking about is Bartz, whom Gilgamesh likes. He's trying to find his way back to the Rift. When FF8 was released, FF5 still had not been. so this was translated in a way that it wouldnt really need knowledge of FF5. It makes more sense in Japanese, as he actually uses the words "Butz" ("bartz")
+Lois.P I think Odin's japanese means Zantetsuken and Seifer's means Reverse Zantetsuken. Just something I've believed all these years, I don't actually know for sure.
+sirfullofhimself Yes, the text that appears on 0:30 means "Reverse Zantetsuken". The first word is "Zantetsuken" (斬鉄剣) and the second word is the noun "kaeshi" (返し), which means "reversal". "Zan-Tetsu-Ken" comes from the Kanji characters for "decapitation/murder" (斬), "iron" (鉄) and "sword" (剣). You can also see the Kanji for "sword" in Squall's "Renzokuken" (連続剣). In this case, 連続 ("renzoku") means "consecutive", so "Renzokuken" pretty much means "consecutive swords", or "continuous sword strikes".
Norse god charging on horseback, who's a samurai now, with the most beautiful scene a PS1 can possibly render. VS Some edgy teenager holding out in front of him a sword with a pistol grip, and doing nothing else.
I remember when this first happened to me, screaming like a little school girl when Oden popped up, " Oh F@#K YEAH! this is gonna be quick!" ............ Well fuck. (Tears begin to roll.)
+Link Technically, every time you use the trigger on your attacks he shoots his gun and slices his enemy at the same time :P Whether or not that's the intended purpose is something to be debated.
To be honest, he was copying his style from a person who had barely any idea how to wield it as well, Seifer copied his style from his childhood hero, who was actually Laguna who had gotten roped into helping with a movie where he had to use a Gunblade he had barely any knowledge on how to wield. So yeah, Seifer is a master of the wrong way to use a Gunblade.
+vc180191 in martial arts using a self made style doesn't mean is wrong, many people became legends in japanese history by mastering unusual ways of using swords , some poeple used to say one can't wield 2 swords at once effectivly then came Musashi .
I think that's the only time in the series that a deity is defeated. It's a shame, though, that at the English version he does not ask for Bartz after the battle.
+Jay Nova But he's not a deity, but an ancient construct. And he's technically not destroyed directly because he has been summoned (it is more like you were breaking its link with this dimension or his summoner). Both Odin and Gilgamesh appear without being summoned, so it's arguable you could truly kill them in battle.
s1vh The mechanical fortress you usually see is indeed a construct that was made to house and control Alexander himself (if you follow the pieced-up canon of Alexander). FF4, he was akin to that of a God. FF6, he was an Esper. FF7, a summon (so not necessarily a god), FF8 a summon again, FF9 eidolon (practically gods), F11 celestial of light (quite literally a god), FF12 airship (lol), FF13 l'cie (practically a God) So you're both right and wrong.
You are getting to the point. Alexander is both the construct and the spirit/deity within. But as the construct gets crushed we can't deduce the "deity" is truly facing death, more than being "unsummoned".
Holy shit! I played this game back when it was new, I know that this fight makes you lose Odin and get Gilgamesh. But since this was my first Final Fantasy I didn't know about the other games. I just found in some random article that this Gilgamesh is the very same Gilgamesh that was cast into the void in Final Fantasy V and now he's back as a pseudo-Guardian force. Mind: BLOWN!
If you have Odin when you fight Seifer, he insta summons and gets wrecked. Odins sword opens the rift/void/n zone/x zone. Gilgamesh comes out of it catches his sword and proceeds to wreck Seifer.
This was absolutely fucking insane. One of the coolest moments on the PS1, but I'm actually glad people DON'T talk about it and seemingly most people who've played 8 don't even know about it, I haven't seen it brought up anywhere despite me giving up on trying to avoid spoilers ever since Lunatic Pandora appeared. It's not JUST the subversion of expectations showing you Seifer's strength, it's the fanservice of fucking Gilgamesh showing up out of nowhere to obliterate his ass.
You know what annoyed me more than anything here? The fact that Gilgamesh ends this battle in a scripted timer, when Seifer is the ONLY enemy in the entire game that has the Aura spell in his inventory. Any other way to get that spell is finding rare draw points in only a few areas of the game (that barely replenish), or transmute items/cards.
i remember when i first saw zantetsuken at the start of the battle, i was just like "oh well too bad seifer, would have loved to stay and chat..." BAM seifer is so badass
I don't know if it's ever stated, but it is my headcanon that the reason Odin doesn't show up in boss fights is because you have to beat the boss yourself. He'll help you during weaker, random encounters so you won't waste your time and energy on them, but you still have to beat the bigger challenges by yourself. So this means (according to my headcanon) Odin views Seifer as a normal enemy. Tl;dr: It's 12:39 where I am and I'm tired.
Actually FF8 and FF5 take place in two different universes. Gilgamesh just travels between the FF universes. Infact, each FF seems to take place in it's own universes. The only expection to this is FF7 and FFX which are believed to take place in the same universe since a character in FFX-2 that goes by the name Shinra mentions that the energy of the planet might be harvestable but would take generations to reach that technology. So often it is speclated that FFX takes place before FF7. But other than that, pretty much every other FF game is its own universe
One of the top reasons I always loved playing as Zell in this game was to stare at his super fine ass shake back and forth in his battle stance. Nice!!
As a child, I was in denial when Odin was killed. Also I didn't like Gilgamesh that much. his outfit reminds me of the circus I went that traumatized me for some reason.
@jeremymuccllar I'm not entirely sure what he means since it isn't really confirmed as far as I know, but that Gilgamesh may be referring tot he Interdimensional Rift in which he was banished to in FFV I think? That's what I read...
These PS1 1 games are still cool even today This Square Soft game was amazing And this game is 15 years old now. So the PS4 is out now and what can i say. The games are to pricey and rubbish they seem to be running out of idea to me. They need to remake this game. Like people are saying there need a remake of FF 7.
Gilgamesh is the same a crossed all the games, actually. It's the same guy from FFV. Even though his design is quite different from what it would be in FFV and FFXIII-2 and Dissidia 12
Enzeru Kagai No he isnt, thats ignorant ,hes much more cooler here than anywhere else, lawl in FF5 and FF12 hes a laughing stock, a punching bag. He might be the same character, but he´s much more badass here. Hes personified as a demi god here.
+BlueBerry14 It's the same "Gilgamesh appears as a pseudo-Guardian Force only obtainable if the party acquired Odin before entering the Lunatic Pandora and fighting Seifer at the end of disc 3 (if Odin is obtained after the fight, acquiring Gilgamesh will not be possible). Odin will attack at the beginning of the battle, but Seifer will use "Zantetsuken Reverse" and slice Odin in half instead. Odin's Zantetsuken creates a rift in space/time, from which Gilgamesh appears and picks it up. Later in the fight, if it has lasted for more than 12 rounds, Gilgamesh will appear and defeat Seifer. Afterwards, he will appear at random during battles just like Odin to attack enemies with one of four random swords, but unlike Odin, Gilgamesh can appear even during boss battles and any time during battle, not necessarily at the battle's start."
+BlueBerry14 "The dialogue he exchanges with Seifer hints that he is indeed the same Gilgamesh as the one from Final Fantasy V: Gilgamesh "You gave me the 4th one..." "Huh? Was it you...?" "Then dodge my sword!" "Eat this!!!" Seifer "Ergwahhhh!!!" Gilgamesh Where is the dimensional interval...? In the Japanese version, Gilgamesh's line "Huh? Was it you...?" was "「ん？ オマエなのか・・・・？ バ・・・・？」" ("Huh? Was it you...? Ba...?"). The "Ba...?" in the end could mean he was talking about Bartz (バッツ, Batsu?). Also, the "dimensional interval" may be the Interdimensional Rift. "
+Fabricio Canllo yeah gilgamesh is confirmed to be same person from ffv in all the games he appears in. he just travels to different world to aquire swords after h was banished to the rift. I like the way he appears in this game via odins demise and his sword tearing a whole in the rift for gilgamesh to appear. badass!
now i bit understand why its always raining when Odins come... just to make this scene where the sword cut the clouds. you see, it wont be dramatic in the nice weather when no "Cloud" around.
This is pandamonium and shows why Gilgamesh is one of the all time great heroes , When the sword splits into the sky and you see Gil's hand grab it, thats the image of the Ace of Swords from the Tarot deck, and he is likely the King of Swords!
first time seeing this i was like no freaking way you killed Odin. if remember correctly i got Odin shortly before getting into a fight with seifer,which made me go crazy after all the work of getting him.
In my second playthrough, I skipped getting odin until after this part because I didn't like Gilgamesh random attacks, especially the one with 1 damage.
Gilgamesh is awesome. I fought Ultimecia for fun back in the day and he used to drop in the beginning. Even used Zantetsuken on her. Too bad it didn't help lol.
Ugh, why does nobody realise Seifer is the best source of Aura in the entire game? Seriously I just draw like a madman in this fight untill Gilgamesh destroys him.
Y'know what pissed me off most about this. I don't mind Gilgamesh being here in fact he is literally the only one that can one hit bosses. But BUUUUUUUUUUUUT!!!! You had Odin die here when in ff4 Odin got an upgrade. It would've been awesome if he came back and Raiden showed up with Shin Zantetsuken. Allowing two different entities come out to deal with random mobs. And Raiden just looks at Seifer and goes, " that was a test , the true battle begins now." That or go totally megamind on him " My death...was GREATLY exaggerated."
Odin sucks in FFVIII. He would never come out when I needed him. But he would always come out when a “big bite” would appear. Hey Odin, I can kill that bug in one hit. I don’t need you to waste all my time with your into just to kill a bug. Then he gets sliced in half by Seifer. There was never really any point for Odin to be in this game
Odin is a fixed appearance. You can avoid his death by getting Odin only after you have done this battle. I'm not sure who is stronger lore-wise, but gameplay-wise, Odin is better.
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When my sister was playing through FFVIII I would be watching her play and add my own commentary throughout, so after she got Odin, anytime he showed up I would create random dialogue for him that she would respond to. So by the time she reached this fight, we had this full personality for Odin and she had gotten really attached to him, which made it really fun to watch her reaction to his getting killed.
Odin! You...forgot...to...DODGE!!!!!
lol whats it like to be stuck in basic math?
Are you a fiction writer?
That is very deep.... really...
That's so cute.
Id like to kick your ass.
You know what most people miss about this moment in the game? The fact that Gilgamesh is crippled, tattered, and missing 3 of his arms. Astute fans will remember that in Final fantasy 5(his last appearance) he is catastrophically injured and broken in his final battle to save the heros. Makes one wonder.
In the Japanese version of Gilgamesh's dialogue here, he basically says "Is that you, Ba..." and it has the first character of Bartz's name. That along with his design and mention of a dimensional interval - a direct allusion to 5 - and it's basically hinting that this is the same Gilgamesh from 5.
Thx for this info lads...I played this as a kid but never understood what reallt happened here
Gilgamesh always be the same person if im not mistaken beside ff9 but that quest from ff9 give you Excalibur
Gilgamesh is the same one in all the FF games confirmed in DFFOO
@@vex08 Yep. He doesn't appears chronologically, but he's the same guy in every FF.
most ironic part is my luck really sucked in this game.
From the moment I got Odin to the point I fought Seifer he literally NEVER showed, not even ones.
So I nearly forgot about him, then he finally showed during the battle with Seifer (me not knowing this was a scripted summon)
I went like "Finally! make yourself useful!"
and then he got cut in half...
lmao rip in ripperoni
LOL
Oof.
Don't use 'ironic'. You don't know what it means.
@@Barbe "It's like raaaaaaiaaaaaaaaaiiiiin on your wedding daaaaay!"
Actually based on the original lines... This Gilgamesh is the one we all loved from FFV as he almost said Bartz's name till it was cut short... And if you noticed that he lost all his arms on the left side which makes sense when you considered that he sacrificed himself to protect Bartz...
Gilgamesh is meant to be the same entity throughout the FF multiverse
Yeah, he is sorta like Deadpool.
It always same guy and he can break fourth wall.
Gilgamesh is an interdimensional being, he can travel through every FF universe, it makes Dissidia more appealing if you ask me.
@@ismailtopa3671 except for FFIX, FFXI, FF Type-0 and, FFXV those ones are their own entities only sharing their names.
@@austinhall6002actually wrong, dissidia opera omnia +duodecim confirmed this : the FF 9,type 0 one are the same gilgamesh from 8 and 5.
I'd forgotten just how badass Gilgamesh's moment here was. The way he just walks off in particular after owning Seifer was just dripping with awesomeness. This guy needs his own fucking game already.
The epic of Gilgamesh!
The even funnier thing is that Gilgamesh is a joke character in V and even in this version of him, he's missing arms from the fight in V.
Still has an amazing theme though
Like Tower of Druaga?Gilgamesh Sorcerian?FATE series?
Gil can't have a break.
I remember the first time I got to this battle and seeing "Zantetsuken" appear, thinking: "Sweet. That's lucky. C ya later Seifer !", only for Seifer to cut Odin in half. My jaw dropped to the floor and my thought changed to: "Oh shiiiiiiiit".
+tizmond you jaw dropped only . i was about to cry :D
I reloaded....
"How the fuck bitchboy has bested Odin?" Literally me.
Gilgamesh fixed for me though.
+Hayro3500 me too, man. Me too.
It is'nt so lucky when "zantetsuken" appears in the boss battle.
Actually, in the japanese version, he asks "Bartz...Is that you?"
In the Japanese version, he would've said "Butz, is that you" as Bartz is the western name.
HAH, GOTCHA, FUCKER!!?
But this ain't the Japanese version now is it.
You did a great job localizing this game, homeless man they hired at a bus stop.
Uhh what
@@j3bus141 Quite a bit of Gilgamesh dialogue was muddled up in localization. He was suppose to mistaken you for Bartz from FF5 and the "dimensional interval" was suppose to be "the rift" or "the dimensional rift" from FF5, the place of the final confrontation and also where Gilgamesh was banished to, and got horribly lost in.
That is why he is in almost all of the Final Fantasy universe
@@kalythai to be fair, ff5 wasn't released in the west at the time, so the reference wouldn't have made much sense.
I believe this is the first time in Final Fantasy where a summon is flat out killed during its attack. AND WITH HIS OWN NO LESS!
maiden ff9 have a kind of that
well alex wasn't killed during its attack mostly because..
eh...
he defended
Alright Seifer...sassing your peers on a regular basis is one thing.
Deliberately disobeying orders because you want to fight is one thing.
Abusing a dog because it's just there is one thing.
Using your best friends as your personal pawns is one thing.
Stabbing the good guys in the back is one thing.
Triggering the worst boss in the game is one thing.
Trying to kill your ex-girlfriend is one thing.
Trying to kill, torture, and break the protagonist for no real reason is one thing.
Being a total buttocks about everything you do is one thing.
But when you brutally kill not only a GF, but a beloved classic summon, AND HIS HORSE, and then gloat about it?! Oooh, NOW IT'S PERSONAL. I'm glad Gilgs blasted you away a-la Team Rocket.
Then why wasnt seifer sent to jail for his crimes at the end of ff8?
@@tsitracommunications2884 Just 'cause we didn't see him get arrested at the end doesn't mean it didn't happen. XD
@@Aster_Iris Bull. If I were Squall I'd deliver Seifer's sorry hide to the Esthar police
@@Aster_Iris dunno if you've played the game, but in the ending scenes, he's with fujin and raijin either at Balamb or Fishermen's Horizon...well fishing with them and shoving Raijin into the water for being better at it, so no he ain't in jail, even though he should be for all the stuff he caused, all for just trying to play at being a knight.
2:29 - If this game ever gets a rerelease, they need to reprogram this moment to have Clash on the Big Bridge play.
This is great having recently played FFV for the first time and shortly after returning to complete FFVIII 16 years after I last played. Gilgamesh in FFV references being banished into an interdimensional plane outside of time before crossing paths with your party once again. I love that this meant he travelled around time and space, stopping to fight Seifer in FFVIII (and other later games I believe) before eventually returning to FFV.
He's got next to no role in this game but he had a nice low key character arc as a recurring boss in V.
Gotta love how Gilgamesh makes his bad ass entrance, blows Seifer away, and then just.... forgets how to leave. "Where is the Dimensional Interval?!" *shuffles around looking* "Oh, here we go." *leaves*
Gilgamesh's first debut was in ff5, he was a sub boss in ff5. In that game he was defeated by player for several stages，the last boss-Exdeath felt angry and send him into the dimension interval
This is a reference to FF5. Your last encounter with him, he finds the Excalipoor -- not the Excalibur. But anyway. He's sent to the interdimensional rift (Dimensional Interval). The person he's asking about is Bartz, whom Gilgamesh likes. He's trying to find his way back to the Rift.
When FF8 was released, FF5 still had not been. so this was translated in a way that it wouldnt really need knowledge of FF5. It makes more sense in Japanese, as he actually uses the words "Butz" ("bartz")
I just wanna say that I love Seifer's battle stance
My jaw dropped because I thought I was going to one shot Seifer, and it dropped even further when Seifer cut him in half
0:30 ; does it mean Thug Life in Japanese? =p
+Lois.P I think Odin's japanese means Zantetsuken and Seifer's means Reverse Zantetsuken. Just something I've believed all these years, I don't actually know for sure.
+sirfullofhimself
Yes, the text that appears on 0:30 means "Reverse Zantetsuken".
The first word is "Zantetsuken" (斬鉄剣) and the second word is the noun "kaeshi" (返し), which means "reversal".
"Zan-Tetsu-Ken" comes from the Kanji characters for "decapitation/murder" (斬), "iron" (鉄) and "sword" (剣).
You can also see the Kanji for "sword" in Squall's "Renzokuken" (連続剣).
In this case, 連続 ("renzoku") means "consecutive", so "Renzokuken" pretty much means "consecutive swords", or "continuous sword strikes".
+Laurelindo That's so cool! Thanks for sharing. :D
+Laurelindo thanks a lot !
+Laurelindo what an informative comment! Great stuff
Norse god charging on horseback, who's a samurai now, with the most beautiful scene a PS1 can possibly render.
VS
Some edgy teenager holding out in front of him a sword with a pistol grip, and doing nothing else.
I remember when this first happened to me, screaming like a little school girl when Oden popped up, " Oh F@#K YEAH! this is gonna be quick!" ............ Well fuck. (Tears begin to roll.)
DarkRevolver G.B. Me too...I was excited that it was going to be a quick and easy fight. I felt this was just wrong.
For someone who uses a gunblade... Seifer doesn't really know how to use a gunblade.
+Andrew Whittaker Techinally neither does Squall.
Lightning is the first person to use a gunblade that is actually a GUN as well lol.
+Link Technically, every time you use the trigger on your attacks he shoots his gun and slices his enemy at the same time :P Whether or not that's the intended purpose is something to be debated.
To be honest, he was copying his style from a person who had barely any idea how to wield it as well, Seifer copied his style from his childhood hero, who was actually Laguna who had gotten roped into helping with a movie where he had to use a Gunblade he had barely any knowledge on how to wield. So yeah, Seifer is a master of the wrong way to use a Gunblade.
+vc180191 in martial arts using a self made style doesn't mean is wrong, many people became legends in japanese history by mastering unusual ways of using swords , some poeple used to say one can't wield 2 swords at once effectivly then came Musashi .
vc180191 That's how Seifer started dreaming to be Sorceress' Knight
Lose Odin and his creepy horse grandchild, gain a different franchise staple. Fair enough to me.
This Gilgamesh may actually be the exact same Gilgamesh from FF5.
They actually hint that in the japanese version.
+Robert Defoe It is. Thus the dimensional rift reference. There is another reference in the original Japanese as well.
+Robert Defoe It is. Gilgamesh is inter-dimensional since ff5.
+Robert Defoe I think it's the same Gilgamesh across every single appearance.
+Robert Defoe gilgamesh is probablly the same in all FF games where he appears, considering exdeath sent him to the riftor something.
Battle at the Big "Bridge"
I think that's the only time in the series that a deity is defeated. It's a shame, though, that at the English version he does not ask for Bartz after the battle.
+s1vh Alexander was killed by Garland in FFIX.
+Jay Nova But he's not a deity, but an ancient construct. And he's technically not destroyed directly because he has been summoned (it is more like you were breaking its link with this dimension or his summoner). Both Odin and Gilgamesh appear without being summoned, so it's arguable you could truly kill them in battle.
s1vh The mechanical fortress you usually see is indeed a construct that was made to house and control Alexander himself (if you follow the pieced-up canon of Alexander). FF4, he was akin to that of a God. FF6, he was an Esper. FF7, a summon (so not necessarily a god), FF8 a summon again, FF9 eidolon (practically gods), F11 celestial of light (quite literally a god), FF12 airship (lol), FF13 l'cie (practically a God) So you're both right and wrong.
You are getting to the point. Alexander is both the construct and the spirit/deity within. But as the construct gets crushed we can't deduce the "deity" is truly facing death, more than being "unsummoned".
s1vh Ahh, good point then. Perhaps he has just been freed. Either way, FF9's character reactions insinuate that Alexander died (one way or another).
This is still my fave final fantasy. Just bought it off playstation store and am bashing through it again. The best
After 11 years, is it still your favorite? Mine would have to be 9.
Mine is 8 too. For the OST and the personalities of the characters and cool, useful summons, and the story too. IX is more lighthearted.
8 for all of its imperfections is still the best ff game ever.
Holy shit! I played this game back when it was new, I know that this fight makes you lose Odin and get Gilgamesh. But since this was my first Final Fantasy I didn't know about the other games. I just found in some random article that this Gilgamesh is the very same Gilgamesh that was cast into the void in Final Fantasy V and now he's back as a pseudo-Guardian force. Mind: BLOWN!
This is the same Gilgamesh from all the FF games, not only FF5.
What an amazing reference to those who played ff5. Too bad I didn't when I got to play this one. Epic scene
If you have Odin when you fight Seifer, he insta summons and gets wrecked. Odins sword opens the rift/void/n zone/x zone. Gilgamesh comes out of it catches his sword and proceeds to wreck Seifer.
I like to think that Gilgamesh can visit all the worlds of all Final Fantasy games, crossing dimensional gaps.
seifer can kill odin but does just 300 dmg per hit wtf is this
He only killed him because he reversed his attack on him.
someone in this vid comment say it was " reverse zantetsuken "
Oh my lol 😂😂😂
This is literally gilgamesh from ffv
Hes been searching for the way home
2019 and RUclips brought this back from the dead.
Thanks
Alot of people forget or don't know Seifer tapped Rinoa ass so Squall getting sloppy seconds
This was absolutely fucking insane. One of the coolest moments on the PS1, but I'm actually glad people DON'T talk about it and seemingly most people who've played 8 don't even know about it, I haven't seen it brought up anywhere despite me giving up on trying to avoid spoilers ever since Lunatic Pandora appeared.
It's not JUST the subversion of expectations showing you Seifer's strength, it's the fanservice of fucking Gilgamesh showing up out of nowhere to obliterate his ass.
I guess the japa text states: Rekt
zan-tetsu-ken and the last badass word is gaeshi
3 yrs later... it says reverse zantestuken.
When Odin showed up for this fight, I was like "hah! What good timing! Seifer you're finished!" Boy was my face red 20 seconds later.
You know what annoyed me more than anything here?
The fact that Gilgamesh ends this battle in a scripted timer, when Seifer is the ONLY enemy in the entire game that has the Aura spell in his inventory. Any other way to get that spell is finding rare draw points in only a few areas of the game (that barely replenish), or transmute items/cards.
I couldn't believe this when it happened. What kind of human being can kill a god?
Oh and the japanese letters means "reverse zantetsuken".
i remember when i first saw zantetsuken at the start of the battle, i was just like "oh well too bad seifer, would have loved to stay and chat..."
BAM
seifer is so badass
Lol. I remember I was getting my ass kicked and then Odin came out. "FUCK YES! TAKE THAT SEIFER!!!"
*slash.
"OH MY GOOOOOOOOOOOD NOOOOOOOOOO!
I don't know if it's ever stated, but it is my headcanon that the reason Odin doesn't show up in boss fights is because you have to beat the boss yourself. He'll help you during weaker, random encounters so you won't waste your time and energy on them, but you still have to beat the bigger challenges by yourself. So this means (according to my headcanon) Odin views Seifer as a normal enemy.
Tl;dr: It's 12:39 where I am and I'm tired.
I love this callback to FFV
To this day I'm still kicking myself for not getting into this game like as immersed as I was in FF VII...
I don't blame you, I never really got into 7, started it and never kept playing after leaving Midgar, then again I played 8 first like 5 times lol
It’s not too late. Even with extremely outdated graphics and sound, the game holds up very well.
Since this is the same gilgamesh, that means we have a TIMELINE BOYS!!!!
This must take place after the events of final fantasy 5.
Actually FF8 and FF5 take place in two different universes. Gilgamesh just travels between the FF universes. Infact, each FF seems to take place in it's own universes. The only expection to this is FF7 and FFX which are believed to take place in the same universe since a character in FFX-2 that goes by the name Shinra mentions that the energy of the planet might be harvestable but would take generations to reach that technology. So often it is speclated that FFX takes place before FF7. But other than that, pretty much every other FF game is its own universe
@@benjaminf Square confirmed that FFX and X-2 are "prequels" to FFVII because of the Shinra speculation.
2:40
“Fool! You're facing the mightiest swordsman in all Ivalice! You face ME! GILGAMESH!!“
Whoops, wrong game, sorry...
That's FF12 right? That's my favorite rendition of Gilgmesh ever
Same Gilgamesh, though, according to FF lore.
I always thought the text translation was a bit weird in this part of the game. the bit with gilgamesh.. just didn't seem to flow right.
"Where's my cool exit? Ah! Here it is!"
One of the top reasons I always loved playing as Zell in this game was to stare at his super fine ass shake back and forth in his battle stance. Nice!!
im slightly concerned
And his obsession with weiners!
Same :)
Squall Zell Irvine were my final party always xD
The Japanese translation of Gilgamesh's dialogue will make more sense. It's a reference to FFV.
As a child, I was in denial when Odin was killed.
Also I didn't like Gilgamesh that much. his outfit reminds me of the circus I went that traumatized me for some reason.
Omg I totally forgot how Gilgamesh freezes up the game
seifer : Let me add another scar to ya
proceeds to attack selphie instead
Hahahaha you are dead Seifer..... huh wait what, what the hell is going on here. That is my reaction the first time i play this game 17 years ago
0:26
Barney's worst nightmare, ladies and gentlemen
Lol, for a moment i misread, like Gilgamesh said "eat shit" before blowing the guy away 😂
@jeremymuccllar I'm not entirely sure what he means since it isn't really confirmed as far as I know, but that Gilgamesh may be referring tot he Interdimensional Rift in which he was banished to in FFV I think? That's what I read...
These PS1 1 games are still cool even today This Square Soft game was amazing And this game is 15 years old now. So the PS4 is out now and what can i say. The games are to pricey and rubbish they seem to be running out of idea to me. They need to remake this game. Like people are saying there need a remake of FF 7.
BadAss Video Gamer I also want remakes of 1 2 5 and 6 in 3D
Badass Video Gamer it's definitely not the same. Today you'd have to pay another 60$ bucks for gf dlc
Squaresoft: Final Fantasy from I to X.
Square Enix: Final Fantasy fron X-2 to XV
Is not hard to see what went wrong.
@@rotciv1492 Say what you will but XI XII and XIV are Amazing games
most badass gilgamesh in the ff series
Gilgamesh is the same a crossed all the games, actually. It's the same guy from FFV. Even though his design is quite different from what it would be in FFV and FFXIII-2 and Dissidia 12
Enzeru Kagai No he isnt, thats ignorant ,hes much more cooler here than anywhere else, lawl in FF5 and FF12 hes a laughing stock, a punching bag. He might be the same character, but he´s much more badass here. Hes personified as a demi god here.
+BlueBerry14 It's the same
"Gilgamesh appears as a pseudo-Guardian Force only obtainable if the party acquired Odin before entering the Lunatic Pandora and fighting Seifer
at the end of disc 3 (if Odin is obtained after the fight, acquiring
Gilgamesh will not be possible). Odin will attack at the beginning of
the battle, but Seifer will use "Zantetsuken Reverse" and slice Odin in half instead.
Odin's Zantetsuken
creates a rift in space/time, from which Gilgamesh appears and picks it
up. Later in the fight, if it has lasted for more than 12 rounds,
Gilgamesh will appear and defeat Seifer. Afterwards, he will appear at
random during battles just like Odin to attack enemies with one of four
random swords, but unlike Odin, Gilgamesh can appear even during boss
battles and any time during battle, not necessarily at the battle's
start."
+BlueBerry14 "The dialogue he exchanges with Seifer hints that he is indeed the same Gilgamesh as the one from Final Fantasy V:
Gilgamesh
"You gave me the 4th one..."
"Huh? Was it you...?"
"Then dodge my sword!"
"Eat this!!!"
Seifer
"Ergwahhhh!!!"
Gilgamesh
Where is the dimensional interval...?
In the Japanese version, Gilgamesh's line "Huh? Was it you...?" was
"「ん？ オマエなのか・・・・？ バ・・・・？」" ("Huh? Was it you...? Ba...?"). The "Ba...?"
in the end could mean he was talking about Bartz (バッツ, Batsu?). Also, the "dimensional interval" may be the Interdimensional Rift.
"
+Fabricio Canllo yeah gilgamesh is confirmed to be same person from ffv in all the games he appears in. he just travels to different world to aquire swords after h was banished to the rift. I like the way he appears in this game via odins demise and his sword tearing a whole in the rift for gilgamesh to appear. badass!
Classic fight I'll never forget seeing this happen to Odin lol.
now i bit understand why its always raining when Odins come... just to make this scene where the sword cut the clouds. you see, it wont be dramatic in the nice weather when no "Cloud" around.
This is my favorite design of Gilgamesh.
This battle should be Squall alone vs Seifer
How the hell did that wuss kill Odin just by standing the fuck still?
Meanwhile I have everyone use physicals and he's down in 3 turns max.
+OperationDEEZ Illusion
Those Japanese symbols on the screen translate to "reverse zanzuken"
This is pandamonium and shows why Gilgamesh is one of the all time great heroes , When the sword splits into the sky and you see Gil's hand grab it, thats the image of the Ace of Swords from the Tarot deck, and he is likely the King of Swords!
first time seeing this i was like no freaking way you killed Odin. if remember correctly i got Odin shortly before getting into a fight with seifer,which made me go crazy after all the work of getting him.
Gilgamesh in the FF series is usually a collector of swords. so he meant Odins sword.
The final FF will be Gilgamesh's story as he travels dimensions, considering he is the only canon FF has.
Anybody else thought gilgamesh was a total badass after this?? And this was my first experience with him.😅
In my second playthrough, I skipped getting odin until after this part because I didn't like Gilgamesh random attacks, especially the one with 1 damage.
God speed you beautiful bastard
that entrance made me wanna say seifer ' YOUR SCREWED DUDE'
The Void of FFV, technically in FF8 is Gilgamesh second appearence and the dialogue is about Bartz of FFV
The video quality is stunning. Seriously, it looks amazing.
Seifer Destroys Odin
Destroys Seifer immediately afterwards
the best sfx editor ever
Seifer Mad Dog killing Odin who dies by Fenrir[wolf] in Ragnarok.
Kino
What’s the deal with some of the frames freezing? Is this a reference to FFV? As a kid I thought there was something wrong with my disc 😆
Gilgamesh is awesome. I fought Ultimecia for fun back in the day and he used to drop in the beginning. Even used Zantetsuken on her. Too bad it didn't help lol.
If you've seen my other videos, you'd see that I didn't have Gilgamesh, but Odin. :)
In this part the best you can do is steal aura magic from seifer
Ugh, why does nobody realise Seifer is the best source of Aura in the entire game? Seriously I just draw like a madman in this fight untill Gilgamesh destroys him.
Because you can draw it from the island closest to heaven and hell. I always have 100 copies before I go past the point of no return.
So. Seeing as how he popped out of a dimensional portal...Does this mean, this is the same Gilgamesh from FF5?
Yep, same Gilgamesh
Y'know what pissed me off most about this. I don't mind Gilgamesh being here in fact he is literally the only one that can one hit bosses. But BUUUUUUUUUUUUT!!!! You had Odin die here when in ff4 Odin got an upgrade. It would've been awesome if he came back and Raiden showed up with Shin Zantetsuken. Allowing two different entities come out to deal with random mobs. And Raiden just looks at Seifer and goes, " that was a test , the true battle begins now."
That or go totally megamind on him " My death...was GREATLY exaggerated."
I wanna get this gilgamesh as a tattoo. like he's one of my summons lol
missed you too big guy........
Gilgamesh sucks even worse than Odin. I'd prefer to just fight Odin without him joining me. Only reason I ever go there anyway is to draw Triples.
Gilgamesh: "Fuhahaha! Rejoice, I came to your aid, mongrel!"
Oh wait, wrong Gilgamesh
Seifer was a total badass beating Odin like that~
when I saw this happen first time , I nearly shit my pants though it worked on bosses.. im like he is gone.NOPE got wrecked
@ronki23 If you watched my other videos, you'll find that I indeed didn't have Gilgamesh at game end.
Gilgamesh is 100 times cooler than Odin. He's a far better FF icon than Odin.
Odin sucks in FFVIII. He would never come out when I needed him. But he would always come out when a “big bite” would appear. Hey Odin, I can kill that bug in one hit. I don’t need you to waste all my time with your into just to kill a bug. Then he gets sliced in half by Seifer. There was never really any point for Odin to be in this game
Seifer's a badass to pull that off. Dang, but I love that dude. Wish they made that sequel with him playable in it.
Final Fantasy 8-2, anyone?
Seifer being able to kill Odin is a big deal...
Big deal to make gilgamesh angry
THESE SWORDS ARE NO COUNTERFEIT!
my arm.. goosebump
I assume the 4th blade? Zantetzuken?
Seifer defeats odin all you hear is one hit ko. Gilgamesh defeats Seifer all you hear is final blow.
I want to know since i didn't reach this part yet, does squell automatically calls odin or can i avoid odin's death, who is stronger odin or gilgamesh
Odin is a fixed appearance.
You can avoid his death by getting Odin only after you have done this battle.
I'm not sure who is stronger lore-wise, but gameplay-wise, Odin is better.
@@Vampyreq Thanks for the info
it's an event. he just defended till gilgamesh appeared.