i'm enjoying your videos. I'm refitting a much smaller sailboat, a 1987 Sirius 28, it's a good little boat that will be easy to sail by myself. I've put 150 hours into it, and I'm probab;ly about 75% done now, Your project is much larger and I have tremendous respect for your calm, methodical approach, no cutting corners. Keep the videos coming, I'll keep watching. Good luck!
This restoration is turning out to be amazing! Because you are doing it correctly, I believe you are going to end up with a much stronger boat than when it came from the factory. It would cost a fortune to buy a new boat with that level of quality. Maybe something to remember as the work gets hard. Nice job and looking forward to seeing more!
Keep up the good work ! . The way you are doing it is the only way to do repairs properly. You are so lucky to have the possibility to work in a inside environment.
I commented on your bravery sailing that 'Thing' across the Baltic Sea back when...but to quote Princess Leia "You came in THAT, you're braver than I thought !"Lol We really love your dry sense of humour & dubious optimism about your project & eagerly await each episode, (even though there is a decided lack of sanding & grinding 😏), really glad to see you back you Drama Queen. 😁
Good decision to remove bulkhead. I did same job to my OE36 and scarf joint inside of boat. Mine was laminated better, but same rotten problem in the bottom.
Your idea to shorten the cockpit in order to get more room above the chart table (and kitchen) looks great ! You have to face a full refit of your boat, so make it at your size. She's going to be gorgeous. Amitiés de France
Thanks again for sharing your progress. I can relate to your situation. I’m restoring a 24-ft cabin cruiser. I remember the weekend when I came to the realization that I had to completely gut the hull and replace all the internal framing. Good luck with your project. I’m sure you’re much further along now. Regards.
You're going to beat that boat. I know it. for the main bulkhead maybe 6 pieces of 10mm, with joints staggered. You would end up with a double thickness of 10mm plywood bonded with epoxy. I admire your calm determination.
Thank God, OE 36 has been my dream boat for ages, I even went to see one to get it, it was sold when I phoned the owner back, thank God again. It is surprising to see here how sloppy work the swedes did with boats at that time, I thought the opposite, or is this boat just built by the owner from the hull, with more will than skill, it is ok, it was his boat. This is very educating and very scary video, the best so far if you really want to know how your boat is built, very few want to, if they knew, threre would hardly anybody out there sailing.
The boat is in all probability built as a semi-finished product, you see quite a few mistakes in the composition. But you seem to have a clear idea of what needs to be done to get the shape of the boat so it will probably be good in the end. I would suggest regarding the keel pocket to remove those plates around the bolts and also the transverse bulkheads. Instead, make longitudinal beams approx. 100mm wide at the sides of the keel pocket. It is fine to cast in a form made of molded plywood. Lay every other chop and biaxial mat for ten layers, do the same when you laminate them to the hull, and the whole side down to the keel.
You're right, the OE36 hulls and decks were built in the boatyard (but by the owners, under yard's supervision), the rest was finished (unfinished) by the owners. The idea to replace these bulkheads (floor frames?) in the keel pocket with longitudinal beams is interesting. Can you shed some more light what's behind the idea?
@@sailingsmalldreamingbig9022 Yes, it might sound a bit fuzzy and it's hard to describe in words, unfortunately I don't have any pictures which would have been better. But you have the greatest movement in the keel pocket in the turn where the keel meets the bottom, you better stiffen the keel up with a longitudinal beam on both sides right in the turn. You can also make an addition with two to three beams across between the leeward ones, but these do not have to go all the way down to the keel sole. I usually make molds into which I cast these parts, which I then saw to fit. As a rule, you get a crimp that causes the sides to creep in so they become a little narrower down towards the hull, which gives room for laminate when you laminate them firmly against the hull. These beams also serve as a base for the colanders.
I think that is a good idea to move the bulkhead to the cockpit a little bit backwards and get some more space inside on both sides of the boat. I am sure you have messured when you say 20 cm but as this is a big change be sure that you can`t get a little bit more. It seems to me that there will be enough place in the cockpit even after you have moved the bulkhead. You are doing a very well rebuilding and I understand that you want it to be perfect. Well done so far. Always looking forward for your next video. 👍
I wrote a comment yesterday but perhaps made some mistake, I can not see it! Having restored/redesigned an OE 36 myself I know all the job.. You are doing it the proper way. Make sure all is sound and build up from that. If at all interested aearch for the blog OE36 Matchless , some posts and pictures from all years of the work. I hope you know of OE yacht club where many members have a lot of knowledge about the boats. If you look under OE 36 on the club´s homepage you can see some pictures of the result of my redesign. Keep the good work up! Kristian
Hello Kristian! I've read your blog (more than once), saved some photos, etc. And yes, I know the Swedish OE club. I purchased the book about OE36 and received some good info when I bought her. Thank you for watching and commenting!
Great, Your idea of getting some more space by the nav station and sacrificing a little in an already huge cockpit is really a very good idea. Must admit that I never thought about that. Having the design I did with a quarter berth on both port and sby side did really improve the volume and airiness below and the kitchen turned out to be working quite well. I would install an opening portlight into the cockpit from the quarter berths since this gives nice air and light. If you think about changing the windows in the saloon remember that these must align with the coachroof and not the deck, a lot of people has made a mistake there when installing the windows and it will never look right. About cored balsa, it is a mess and I did develop a system drying it out with microwaves that worked fantastically, do not remember if that is mentioned in the blog.. Your boat will be fantastic and she sails really old fashioned great!
I feel like you have a kindred spirit. I too restored a 1968 S&S 38. My boat before was S/V Victoria! A Mirage 275 similar again. I also spotted a DR 650! Same! Lol. No disrespect, and you need to make your own evaluation, but from experience the project is going to get very expensive to finish. Not to mention the labour! Sorry to say but I would be evaluating my choice of boat looking at all the problems you are finding? Are you as well?
Thank you for your comment. So many coincidences ;) The bike you spotted is actually a DR800 Big, a bigger cousin of DR650. About the boat and evaluation. Well, I pretty much knew that I bought myself a many years worth of work. I'm not new to boats nor sailing. And once you've started it's not easy to quit any more :) So I carry on
@@sailingsmalldreamingbig9022 These classics are worthy and will once again be great sailing boats. My S&S is truly a special boat to sail. Good luck with the project.
You seem to have got an OE36, with the interior of of a OE36 Crown interior joinery. The Bulkhead is likely to hav been inserted after the deck was assembled, meaning - it was NEVER in one piece!!!!
Hello ! There is a lot of work ahead of you, but you surely know it. Watching your films from the renovation of the OE36, I can see that the build quality is poor, a lot of the wrongly placed glass fiber. Good luck with the renovation and look forward to the next episodes of bigger brother Shipman.
I think you should tell us the name of the original builder (not the designer) so we will all be sure not ever to buy one of their boats. Name and shame!.
It's nice to see you restoring and old boat. So many people just abandon them. 👍
i'm enjoying your videos. I'm refitting a much smaller sailboat, a 1987 Sirius 28, it's a good little boat that will be easy to sail by myself. I've put 150 hours into it, and I'm probab;ly about 75% done now, Your project is much larger and I have tremendous respect for your calm, methodical approach, no cutting corners. Keep the videos coming, I'll keep watching. Good luck!
Thank you for watching and commenting! I stopped counting the hours long ago :)
This restoration is turning out to be amazing! Because you are doing it correctly, I believe you are going to end up with a much stronger boat than when it came from the factory. It would cost a fortune to buy a new boat with that level of quality. Maybe something to remember as the work gets hard. Nice job and looking forward to seeing more!
Thank you for keeping me on the right track!
I'm exhausted watching you work so hard. I'm sure it's thirsty work, it is for me. Can't wait for the rebuild to start.
I know the feeling :) Thank you for watching and don't forget your drinks ;)
Keep up the good work ! . The way you are doing it is the only way to do repairs properly. You are so lucky to have the possibility to work in a inside environment.
Thanks! I am lucky to have the shelter to build the boat, indeed!
Again i watched all of your videos, i admire your calm steady work. You are an amazing repairman
At least I try to be ;)
I commented on your bravery sailing that 'Thing' across the Baltic Sea back when...but to quote Princess Leia "You came in THAT, you're braver than I thought !"Lol We really love your dry sense of humour & dubious optimism about your project & eagerly await each episode, (even though there is a decided lack of sanding & grinding 😏), really glad to see you back you Drama Queen. 😁
Thanks a lot for watching and commenting. I had to google the quote of Leia, but I know now what you meant :D
Thanks for video.
Its huge job.
Yes, there's a lot to do!
Good decision to remove bulkhead. I did same job to my OE36 and scarf joint inside of boat. Mine was laminated better, but same rotten problem in the bottom.
That's really encouraging! Thank you for commenting!
Your idea to shorten the cockpit in order to get more room above the chart table (and kitchen) looks great ! You have to face a full refit of your boat, so make it at your size. She's going to be gorgeous. Amitiés de France
That's exactly what I thought, thank you for your comment. Greetings to France!
Make a traditional bulkhead out of crisscrossed planks. Your determination and spirit is most refreshing.
That's one possibility. Often there are more than one solution to the problem. Thanks!
Thanks again for sharing your progress. I can relate to your situation. I’m restoring a 24-ft cabin cruiser. I remember the weekend when I came to the realization that I had to completely gut the hull and replace all the internal framing. Good luck with your project. I’m sure you’re much further along now. Regards.
Thank you for the comment! Yes, the project is moving forward and there is a lot of video material to go through
Extending the cabin aftwards like you planned makes it look very good I think!
This idea is haunting me. On one hand I could live without doing it, on another hand it would be nice upgrade to the interior
You're going to beat that boat. I know it. for the main bulkhead maybe 6 pieces of 10mm, with joints staggered. You would end up with a double thickness of 10mm plywood bonded with epoxy. I admire your calm determination.
Thank you for watching and thinking along!
Thank God, OE 36 has been my dream boat for ages, I even went to see one to get it, it was sold when I phoned the owner back, thank God again. It is surprising to see here how sloppy work the swedes did with boats at that time, I thought the opposite, or is this boat just built by the owner from the hull, with more will than skill, it is ok, it was his boat.
This is very educating and very scary video, the best so far if you really want to know how your boat is built, very few want to, if they knew, threre would hardly anybody out there sailing.
The hull and deck of the OE36 are very good. Sloppy work was done afterwards by several owners during many modifications.
Damn, I'd really like to have a project like that. Then on the other hand, I really would not like to have a project like that.
Much easier to watch the others struggle :D
Ha ha.. Drama Queen. :-) Anyway.. I am totally impressed about your determination.. Hope you soon will be able to enjoy the fruits of your work...
The boat is in all probability built as a semi-finished product, you see quite a few mistakes in the composition. But you seem to have a clear idea of what needs to be done to get the shape of the boat so it will probably be good in the end. I would suggest regarding the keel pocket to remove those plates around the bolts and also the transverse bulkheads. Instead, make longitudinal beams approx. 100mm wide at the sides of the keel pocket. It is fine to cast in a form made of molded plywood. Lay every other chop and biaxial mat for ten layers, do the same when you laminate them to the hull, and the whole side down to the keel.
You're right, the OE36 hulls and decks were built in the boatyard (but by the owners, under yard's supervision), the rest was finished (unfinished) by the owners. The idea to replace these bulkheads (floor frames?) in the keel pocket with longitudinal beams is interesting. Can you shed some more light what's behind the idea?
@@sailingsmalldreamingbig9022
Yes, it might sound a bit fuzzy and it's hard to describe in words, unfortunately I don't have any pictures which would have been better. But you have the greatest movement in the keel pocket in the turn where the keel meets the bottom, you better stiffen the keel up with a longitudinal beam on both sides right in the turn. You can also make an addition with two to three beams across between the leeward ones, but these do not have to go all the way down to the keel sole. I usually make molds into which I cast these parts, which I then saw to fit. As a rule, you get a crimp that causes the sides to creep in so they become a little narrower down towards the hull, which gives room for laminate when you laminate them firmly against the hull. These beams also serve as a base for the colanders.
@@kjell-ovekarlsson8965 Besides something for straining pasta or other foods, what's a colander in terms of boat-building?
I think that is a good idea to move the bulkhead to the cockpit a little bit backwards and get some more space inside on both sides of the boat. I am sure you have messured when you say 20 cm but as this is a big change be sure that you can`t get a little bit more. It seems to me that there will be enough place in the cockpit even after you have moved the bulkhead.
You are doing a very well rebuilding and I understand that you want it to be perfect. Well done so far. Always looking forward for your next video. 👍
Thank you! Ideas and suggestions are always welcome!
Very big job, but you can do! Blessings! 🙂👍🙏
Thank you :)
I wrote a comment yesterday but perhaps made some mistake, I can not see it! Having restored/redesigned an OE 36 myself I know all the job..
You are doing it the proper way. Make sure all is sound and build up from that. If at all interested aearch for the blog OE36 Matchless , some posts and pictures from all years of the work. I hope you know of OE yacht club where many members have a lot of knowledge about the boats. If you look under OE 36 on the club´s homepage you can see some pictures of the result of my redesign.
Keep the good work up!
Kristian
Hello Kristian! I've read your blog (more than once), saved some photos, etc. And yes, I know the Swedish OE club. I purchased the book about OE36 and received some good info when I bought her. Thank you for watching and commenting!
Great, Your idea of getting some more space by the nav station and sacrificing a little in an already huge cockpit is really a very good idea. Must admit that I never thought about that. Having the design I did with a quarter berth on both port and sby side did really improve the volume and airiness below and the kitchen turned out to be working quite well. I would install an opening portlight into the cockpit from the quarter berths since this gives nice air and light.
If you think about changing the windows in the saloon remember that these must align with the coachroof and not the deck, a lot of people has made a mistake there when installing the windows and it will never look right.
About cored balsa, it is a mess and I did develop a system drying it out with microwaves that worked fantastically, do not remember if that is mentioned in the blog..
Your boat will be fantastic and she sails really old fashioned great!
I feel like you have a kindred spirit. I too restored a 1968 S&S 38. My boat before was S/V Victoria! A Mirage 275 similar again. I also spotted a DR 650! Same! Lol.
No disrespect, and you need to make your own evaluation, but from experience the project is going to get very expensive to finish. Not to mention the labour! Sorry to say but I would be evaluating my choice of boat looking at all the problems you are finding? Are you as well?
Thank you for your comment. So many coincidences ;) The bike you spotted is actually a DR800 Big, a bigger cousin of DR650. About the boat and evaluation. Well, I pretty much knew that I bought myself a many years worth of work. I'm not new to boats nor sailing. And once you've started it's not easy to quit any more :) So I carry on
@@sailingsmalldreamingbig9022 These classics are worthy and will once again be great sailing boats. My S&S is truly a special boat to sail. Good luck with the project.
You seem to have got an OE36, with the interior of of a OE36 Crown interior joinery. The Bulkhead is likely to hav been inserted after the deck was assembled, meaning - it was NEVER in one piece!!!!
I would build a composite buldhead in the boat, in one piece, then put venear on it, if you want wooden feeling.
The original bulkhead was made in 3 pieces, connected with rabbet joints. I made it differently but this will be revealed in the future episodes
Hello ! There is a lot of work ahead of you, but you surely know it. Watching your films from the renovation of the OE36, I can see that the build quality is poor, a lot of the wrongly placed glass fiber. Good luck with the renovation and look forward to the next episodes of bigger brother Shipman.
Thank you! There's a lot of work but it's somewhat satisfying mostly
I think you should tell us the name of the original builder (not the designer) so we will all be sure not ever to buy one of their boats. Name and shame!.