I love stuff like this! It's been so long I have forgotten nearly everything, but I do remember the instructor saying "DON'T remove cuttings with your bare hands, always use a rag", that's about it. Of course we don't have much use for toolmakers & machinists in America when all our industry is being outsourced...
Getting a Myford ML7 a week on Monday - looks to be in decent condition, so videos like this are great. Thanks for taking the time & trouble to put it on RUclips !
That was a great Video and good practices for working on a Lathe. Back in 1973, my first job was in a Machine Shop. The firs thing I learned was, Don't turn the Lathe on with the Chuck still in the Jaws!:O In the 80's I was a Tool Maker in an Air Craft Plant (General Dynamics). We had a Turret Lathe and a Bridgeport Mill. Brings back memories and reminds me of some things that I didn't even know that I forgot;) My Calipers are just plain old Dial Calipers. Now I see the "need";) Don
Put a long bar in the chuck and see if you can detect any movement when pushed at the end. If you have had a good finish though it suggests this is OK. Is the tool still sharp? Maybe recheck the gibs in case they have "settled down"
First a sharp tool. You can see i use Sumutomo indexable tips but a HS tool correctly sharpened is good. Are the lathe gibs strips adjusted properly, Cutting oil will improve the finish too.
I just bought my first lathe today a Myford Ml 10. This is the first video I've watched on using a Ml10 and I just subscribed. Cheers and thanks I've learned a lot already.
Excellent, simple video that shows a lot to a beginner without over complications. Will be putting this series on my phone as a reference for when my new lathe arrives. Think I'll slip the crocks though. Thanks to myfordboy for helping newbies.
This is really useful, thanks very much! It's almost like magic watching the metal disappear! I am restoring an old wartime motorcycle and nuts and bolts are really hard to find so I thought learning to use a lathe might be the answer. Your videos make it a lot less intimidating! Thank you :D
@viol999 You could do it that way if you chose. Its important though not to take the work out of the chuck and hold it by the larger dia. you have just turned as you would loose the concentic properties of the work.
Great videos, Thank you, Just bought an ML10 & these are fantastic for learning before trying myself. Keep up the good work & thanks for sharing your knowledge & techniques. Deep respect from a total beginner.
@ani4al I was taught at school the imperial system, I am older than you ! Metric came after leaving school. The main reason I use this though is all my machine tools are imperial and I can think imperial better than metric. A lot of model engineering is imperial as a lot of designs are pretty old.
Great video.Just what I need.I got a little Emco SL lathe,and haven't done much with it yet. Each new trick I learn,I wonder how I manged without it after a while.
@doobydooby223 I know what you mean with the Rocol. The smoke makes the chuck rust. The red stuff is an unbranded one I picked up at a Model Engineering exhibitionit was very cheap and works well. Not as corrosive as the Rocol. I have an extractor fan above the lathe and switch it on when it smokes.
I show a bit of parting off in the video building the Essex Hot air engine part 10. I think the biggest mistake is to be too gentle. Use plenty of cutting oil for steel and keep a steady feed. Lock the saddle. Grind parting tool with clearance on the top.
It does look like its angled. It should be at right angles to the work. I expect the tool was not straight in the tool holder and I angled the toolpost to compensate.
@chuffernuts I am taking a cut about 0.030"roughing and .010" when I get close to size. Final was .0015 as shown. Red cutting oil is an unbranded one I picked up at a show. Rocol is good but expensive.
It could be several things. eg, Tool not sharp Tool not on center Topslide and/or carage gibs need adjusting Worn headstock. Check the above and see how you get on.
Yes, the measuring tips were new to me. Set the calipers to the nominal measurement, zero the calipers, and work to null any difference as the part is machined. (I'm new to metal working on a lathe.) Roy Lewis Buffalo, NY USA
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great work. it looks like it has a really nice finish, as well. im working on an idler shaft in class, and i could really use a digital micrometer to make things easier, because it looked easier when you used on to measure your piece.
I find also its important to match your feed rate with spindle speed. chips that come out in nice curls or strands is a good indicator on proper feed speeds.
so sad that myford went bankrupt... :( they made great lathes and machinery... i guess nothing can be made anywhere these days other than in taiwan/china... :\ you own a piece of history, keep that machine in shape, and thanks a ton for the great tutorial! :]
Whenever I watch RUclips turning I pick up a new tip. You might like to watch my playlist for my Boxford lathe, which is very similar to the Myford and South Bend lathes.
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Could the red lube be Marvel Mystery Oil ? It's sold here in the States ! Works great as an additive to fuel and to crankcase oil to breakdown sludge !
How does one check the headstock for wear? I have gotten an excellent finish on black pipe a single time, and cannot replicate it. This was immediately after I took apart the entire cross slide / compound slide, cleaned it, re-oiled it, and adjusted the gibs to what I thought was tight enough, but with the cleaned assembly saw I could wiggle the whole tool post 2-3 thousands. It took tighter gibs than I thought to remove all of this play, but once I did, I got a great finish, that one time.
I bought it at a model engineering show. It was unbranded in a plain bottle. I have seen the same trader since and they don't have anymore, which is a shame as it was cheap! Rocol RTD is similar but more expensive but that is what I have to use when this runs out which is pretty soon.
i have a question ... i know your from the UK so, why are you using the imperial system. I am an engineer myself, but only being 19 and too from the UK, i have always used the metric system. i have a friend at work who is older and he says that he has grown up using both! is this the same situation with you or .... i really enjoy your videos :D
Only a small boxford lathe or similar, coolant fed not needed as only small components made, but a small amount of oil keeps the tool in good cutting order. Lubricants are used solely to cool the tool being used and not to be confused with the quality and finish of the product.
Kenneth I suggested exactly the same quite some time a go,,, the chap obviously has a lot of skills that could easily be passed on using something I think they call words,,, Yes the spoken word,,,, its supposed to be very good for communicating,, Im no engineer and im not that well spoken but in my videos I at least try to pass on some information. but this chap thinks its best to leave the viewer wanting information so they have to ask. hes happy with the feed back and its a free Country
You do great work, how about a little narrative while you work. The occasional signs do provide some information, but the added verbal input would be great. Thanks.... Ken
How do you set up the other side of the work in the chuck without marring it ? All my instructor told me was they used to used copper(?) wedges between the work and the jaws. lol
Hi, I`ve been watching this `couse I`ve got the German lathe. It is a model Wilhelm Grupp 1980 model,and I have no idea hoe to use it. It is quite big with many thinks on it.
I'm not very experienced yet with the lathe but I've only done work on my dad's machine with his supervision since I'm just now learning how to work and cut with the cutters and end stop piece. Did you learn how to use it or did you go to school for machining my dad did.
Excellent video. Clean video without a lot of the annoying "extras" people add trying to be "professional" and doing little more than wasting time. Keep up the good work.
Just set my ML10 up on a bench and to allow room for the bolt heads underneath I have raised it on battens but the motor mount flexes badly. Any ideas on what to check first?
Sounds like the belt tension is not tight. The large hex section on the belt tensioning linkage can be adjusted to correct this. Metal raising blocks would be better than battens.
explaine why you use cutting oil, why you use the rpm you are using and how to get the rpm you need. Also explain you want to turn the wheel constant for a nice smooth finish if there is no automatic turner. And what tools you are using with the angles and stuff. Also side note: oil isn't required for a part of this small. There almost wont be any heat. Also explain that when you use a 3 claw you cannot take the object out and put it back in.
There are charts that give surface speed to cutting depth but I usualy do most things with the top speed which is 840 on my lathe. This is possible using insert tools that are designed for higher speeds.
This looks like a lot of fun. Been thinking about getting a mini lathe to do some small projects. Learned a ton just by watching. Thanks.
I love stuff like this!
It's been so long I have forgotten nearly everything, but I do remember the instructor saying "DON'T remove cuttings with your bare hands, always use a rag", that's about it.
Of course we don't have much use for toolmakers & machinists in America when all our industry is being outsourced...
Getting a Myford ML7 a week on Monday - looks to be in decent condition, so videos like this are great. Thanks for taking the time & trouble to put it on RUclips !
That was a great Video and good practices for working on a Lathe. Back in 1973, my first job was in a Machine Shop. The firs thing I learned was, Don't turn the Lathe on with the Chuck still in the Jaws!:O In the 80's I was a Tool Maker in an Air Craft Plant (General Dynamics). We had a Turret Lathe and a Bridgeport Mill. Brings back memories and reminds me of some things that I didn't even know that I forgot;) My Calipers are just plain old Dial Calipers. Now I see the "need";)
Don
Put a long bar in the chuck and see if you can detect any movement when pushed at the end.
If you have had a good finish though it suggests this is OK. Is the tool still sharp? Maybe recheck the gibs in case they have "settled down"
I have seen many of your videos and I appreciate your ingenuity and resourcefulness and you sharing it with us. Thank you :)
First a sharp tool. You can see i use Sumutomo indexable tips but a HS tool correctly sharpened is good. Are the lathe gibs strips adjusted properly, Cutting oil will improve the finish too.
I just bought my first lathe today a Myford Ml 10. This is the first video I've watched on using a Ml10 and I just subscribed. Cheers and thanks I've learned a lot already.
All my machining video feature the ML10, great lathe.
Excellent, simple video that shows a lot to a beginner without over complications. Will be putting this series on my phone as a reference for when my new lathe arrives. Think I'll slip the crocks though. Thanks to myfordboy for helping newbies.
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I never thought of using the Digital Calipers like that. It will make turning SO much easier for me :D Thank you so much!
This is really interesting to watch. I'm studying Mech Engineering in Surrey at the moment and I think it's incredible
well it took me a about 6 months to learn what you just showed me...thanks. I'm a slow learner but once i get it I got it.
I like the roof cam.
You seem to be able to get to the right size a lot easier than I can. :)
This is really useful, thanks very much! It's almost like magic watching the metal disappear! I am restoring an old wartime motorcycle and nuts and bolts are really hard to find so I thought learning to use a lathe might be the answer. Your videos make it a lot less intimidating! Thank you :D
@viol999 You could do it that way if you chose. Its important though not to take the work out of the chuck and hold it by the larger dia. you have just turned as you would loose the concentic properties of the work.
Great videos, Thank you, Just bought an ML10 & these are fantastic for learning before trying myself. Keep up the good work & thanks for sharing your knowledge & techniques. Deep respect from a total beginner.
@ani4al I was taught at school the imperial system, I am older than you ! Metric came after leaving school. The main reason I use this though is all my machine tools are imperial and I can think imperial better than metric.
A lot of model engineering is imperial as a lot of designs are pretty old.
Great video!
I learn something every time I watch one of your vids. I hope you continue to make many more. Your efforts are greatly appreciated.
Great video.Just what I need.I got a little Emco SL lathe,and haven't done much with it yet. Each new trick I learn,I wonder how I manged without it after a while.
@doobydooby223 I know what you mean with the Rocol. The smoke makes the chuck rust. The red stuff is an unbranded one I picked up at a Model Engineering exhibitionit was very cheap and works well. Not as corrosive as the Rocol. I have an extractor fan above the lathe and switch it on when it smokes.
I show a bit of parting off in the video building the Essex Hot air engine part 10.
I think the biggest mistake is to be too gentle. Use plenty of cutting oil for steel and keep a steady feed. Lock the saddle. Grind parting tool with clearance on the top.
Nice and simple--to the point. I learned a few things here.
Ultimate video on turning. Very clear and focused video.
It does look like its angled. It should be at right angles to the work. I expect the tool was not straight in the tool holder and I angled the toolpost to compensate.
Thanks for a VERY informative video - I learned several new techniques, that I plan
to implement on my ancient Dwight Slate lathe.
@johandelport Yes they are Sumitomo tips.
@chuffernuts I am taking a cut about 0.030"roughing and .010" when I get close to size. Final was .0015 as shown. Red cutting oil is an unbranded one I picked up at a show. Rocol is good but expensive.
It's a 4 way tool post. Holds 4 tools and can be indexed around.
one of the best lathe how to on here for beginners in my opionion
The parting tool is in a home made holder but the turning tool is just held in the tool post.
awesome video cheers myfordboy. i'm looking for a lathe myself. just the kind of thing i needed to watch.
Nice video. Turing is first lathe operation I learned.
You disconnect the feed on auto or stop turning the leadscrew on manual.
Some great work boots you got there mate
excellent, no-nonsense video. Thank you for making these.
It could be several things. eg,
Tool not sharp
Tool not on center
Topslide and/or carage gibs need adjusting
Worn headstock.
Check the above and see how you get on.
Yes, the measuring tips were new to me. Set the calipers to the nominal measurement, zero the calipers, and work to null any difference as the part is machined. (I'm new to metal working on a lathe.)
Roy Lewis Buffalo, NY USA
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@TheSuperFungus On my lathe you need to disconnect the auto feed manualy.
Same here, just have to figure things out for myself. Cleaning up my new lathe today.
This helped me alot, thanks ! The centre lathe i use in college is like twice the size of this machine also.
You can tell just by the way this man moves beside the lathe he’s a boss.
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great work. it looks like it has a really nice finish, as well. im working on an idler shaft in class, and i could really use a digital micrometer to make things easier, because it looked easier when you used on to measure your piece.
Thanks for uploading, love the simplicity
Finished part next to diagram. Superb work.
I find also its important to match your feed rate with spindle speed.
chips that come out in nice curls or strands is a good indicator on proper feed speeds.
so sad that myford went bankrupt... :( they made great lathes and machinery... i guess nothing can be made anywhere these days other than in taiwan/china... :\ you own a piece of history, keep that machine in shape, and thanks a ton for the great tutorial! :]
Get through it?
They were made from around 1968, not sure when production finished on this model.
@Smorz33 No State, I live in the UK
Great videos ... great man (teacher) ... thank you for all the videos you change with us ...
Thank you so much. This was just what I needed, no faffing about.
Thanks, I just started class and your vid cleared up a lot
@sojournearth Its some unbranded stuff I picked up at a show.
It would make me nervous running the cutter that close to the chuck...lol.
Whenever I watch RUclips turning I pick up a new tip. You might like to watch my playlist for my Boxford lathe, which is very similar to the Myford and South Bend lathes.
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You can turn wood on a metalworking lathe but a proper wood lathe is better as you need a higher speed for wood.
Could the red lube be Marvel Mystery Oil ?
It's sold here in the States ! Works great as an additive to fuel and to crankcase oil to breakdown sludge !
@serchmarc I have made them for model engines. One of my videos shows this.
I use a neat cutting oil.
How does one check the headstock for wear? I have gotten an excellent finish on black pipe a single time, and cannot replicate it. This was immediately after I took apart the entire cross slide / compound slide, cleaned it, re-oiled it, and adjusted the gibs to what I thought was tight enough, but with the cleaned assembly saw I could wiggle the whole tool post 2-3 thousands. It took tighter gibs than I thought to remove all of this play, but once I did, I got a great finish, that one time.
II was just demontrating how a typical part is made. It is not for anything particular.
So what stops the tools smashing into the chuck jaws on autofeed or manual.
Not used the idea of zeroing the scale before. Great idea. My concern is my verniers are not as good as yours and sometimes have a mind of there own !
Zeroing is the best function of electronic measuring tools, takes all the maths out..
Its a great idea and i will be using it tomorrow. thanks
use metric system and you'll be happy :)
great work.I am a machinist from Nigeria. I like to do some teaching like this, how can i get through it?
Wow that is a really nice lathe.
Great measuring tips. Keep them coming pls. Are you using indexed cutters?
You don't use any cutting milk? Or some liquid to cool of the metal?
Seriously, thanks for putting these up.
Beginners question...why not turn down to larger o.d. first and then the smaller?
Good evening Myfordboy. I am a fan of your very instructive videos. What is the pink cutting fluid you're using and where can it be obtained?
I bought it at a model engineering show. It was unbranded in a plain bottle. I have seen the same trader since and they don't have anymore, which is a shame as it was cheap! Rocol RTD is similar but more expensive but that is what I have to use when this runs out which is pretty soon.
Love your lathe what make is it?
Excellent tutorial, I learnt a lot, thanks.
i have a question ...
i know your from the UK so, why are you using the imperial system. I am an engineer myself, but only being 19 and too from the UK, i have always used the metric system. i have a friend at work who is older and he says that he has grown up using both! is this the same situation with you or .... i really enjoy your videos :D
Gotta love the sound of a lathe...
Only a small boxford lathe or similar, coolant fed not needed as only small components made, but a small amount of oil keeps the tool in good cutting order. Lubricants are used solely to cool the tool being used and not to be confused with the quality and finish of the product.
u went to a machine show THATS SOO COOL my i ask what the part does?? if nothing its still cool =3-
Kenneth I suggested exactly the same quite some time a go,,, the chap obviously has a lot of skills that could easily be passed on using something I think they call words,,, Yes the spoken word,,,, its supposed to be very good for communicating,, Im no engineer and im not that well spoken but in my videos I at least try to pass on some information. but this chap thinks its best to leave the viewer wanting information so they have to ask. hes happy with the feed back and its a free Country
Seeing this makes me miss my old resistant materials class in secondary school
You do great work, how about a little narrative while you work. The occasional signs do provide some information, but the added verbal input would be great.
Thanks....
Ken
Gorgeous! What a little beauty!
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what's that weird adapter on the tool post ? is it because the tool was too big ?
sure , but one of the tools at the beginnings is in a special adapter, and so does the parting tool at the end
@jpheisz I thought someone would pick up on that!
How do you set up the other side of the work in the chuck without marring it ? All my instructor told me was they used to used copper(?) wedges between the work and the jaws. lol
You could wrap a small piece of drinks can around the work to protect it.
@@myfordboy ahhhhh, just some aluminum then. thanks!
The clue is in my user name, It's a Myford, model ML10
Hi, I`ve been watching this `couse I`ve got the German lathe. It is a model Wilhelm Grupp 1980 model,and I have no idea hoe to use it. It is quite big with many thinks on it.
this thing is just for metals? can u make stuff with wood?
I'm not very experienced yet with the lathe but I've only done work on my dad's machine with his supervision since I'm just now learning how to work and cut with the cutters and end stop piece.
Did you learn how to use it or did you go to school for machining my dad did.
Self taught from books. No youtube videos to watch 30 years ago.
myfordboy I made my first piece last night but I'm only slowly getting better at it
read the damn description
Excellent video. Clean video without a lot of the annoying "extras" people add trying to be "professional" and doing little more than wasting time. Keep up the good work.
Damn you must be amazing at your actual trade!
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It's a Myford.
Great job, until the work cools down. Do you use coolant?
Just set my ML10 up on a bench and to allow room for the bolt heads underneath I have raised it on battens but the motor mount flexes badly. Any ideas on what to check first?
Sounds like the belt tension is not tight. The large hex section on the belt tensioning linkage can be adjusted to correct this. Metal raising blocks would be better than battens.
Never would I ever step near ond of those wearing long sleeves.
Is that task too small too add a cooling factor?
I add a cutting fluid.
explaine why you use cutting oil, why you use the rpm you are using and how to get the rpm you need. Also explain you want to turn the wheel constant for a nice smooth finish if there is no automatic turner.
And what tools you are using with the angles and stuff.
Also side note: oil isn't required for a part of this small. There almost wont be any heat. Also explain that when you use a 3 claw you cannot take the object out and put it back in.
He already told us he is not an engineer by trade!
Marc DontNeed c
How is spindle speed determined for any given job ?
There are charts that give surface speed to cutting depth but I usualy do most things with the top speed which is 840 on my lathe. This is possible using insert tools that are designed for higher speeds.
Love your videos bro< helps alot!
Simple and straight forward. Thanks!