I can't believe most reviewers missed to mention the simple function of when the camera is switched on/off, the receiver turns on/off automatically. Thats a subtle workflow-efficiency feature. Cheers!
Ive been using them for about 2 months now and am in love with them! shooting those loud corporate events has been a gamechanger with these! Great video man! have a great xmas!
Looking back at 2023, this was the best purchase I made overall. I was recording interviews on the floor of a trade show and running (sometimes literally) back and forth from one side of the convention center to the other to set up audio on different talent. Connected lavs over 20 different times and had one interview get saved entirely by the 32-bit float capability. The audio peaked in camera as the guy SHOUTED randomly several times. I was able to export the audio and eliminate all distortion. He also came in for a big hug and the sound of their clothes and two mics getting slammed up against was also recovered. Not a CHANCE I could have shot those clips again. But the charging case kept them powered up all day, the communication to the iPhone via USB-C allowed me to make changes to them in real time. They’re just such a great product.
Looking forward to using 32 bit float, I ordered mine, waiting for it to be shipped. GainAssist does not apply to on-board recordings. Which means you can get your 32-bit float recordings untouched by gain assist internally and the receiver will be spared the clipping at 24 bits with gain assist. Going to be testing this out myself.
@JasonMorrisphotocinema Really want to get into shooting more videos this really helped me! Merry Xmas Jason!! edit: Love this review helps me to find what recorder and/ or mic to find. From Aus too... Read More
I get the feeling that 32 bit float is now the basic standard for audio gear - and it doesn't have to be expensive. I've recently bought a Zoom M2 stereo / mic recorder that I'd previously turned my nose up at, but when I saw it was on sale for about the usual price of the humble but popular Zoom H1N I brushed the moths off my wallet and bought one (thanks for the bargain, Videoguys - Micro SD card included!). Anyway, although the form factor isn't as videocentric as the M3, its feature set is pretty impressive. It only records in 32 bit float. But it can export internally to 24 or 16 bits (creating a copy on the card) and can even normalise internally too. It can apply normalisation on playback without creating another copy, and it can output 32 bit float via USB-C for the rare devices (so far) as can accept that. And its headphone output will accept incoming playback audio from a connected USB-C device, eg the Pocket 3. Anyway, my point is, you get all that for next to nothing. 32 bit float is the new norm! And very good too.
Can you record stereo from one transmitter which is connected to a stereo mic via the 3.5 output ? I want to connect my Azden smx -30 which is pro shotgun mono OR can be put in stereo mode for amazing wildlife sound.
Jason, thanks for the great review. Regarding the Rode Wireless pro, would the sound be clearly better if I use Sanken Cos 11 lavs instead of the lavs that comes with the Rode?
Regarding the safeguard at 5:31. Let me state for the record in owning the previous DJI Wireless Mic Kit - we were doing shoots overseas and three different times if you touched the receiver wrong the screen would say "format complete." So I called DJI with this new one and asked, "Is there an easy way for me to delete the files in the field?" They said no, you have to plug it in, then connect to our app, then a pop up message will come up that asks if you are sure you want to delete." I said "I'LL TAKE IT!" So we bought it for this reason. People complain that you need the app. I hated the Rode Wireless Go 2 because the transfers would fail constantly. So far these seem to be quite solid and I'm happy with the safeguard as we cannot afford to go through this again.
Just checked that my Sony ZV-1 only saves audio in 16 bit. So the Rode Wireless Pro which I just took delivery of and went out for a street test came back horrible on the ZV-1 footage. It sounded very raspy and I was only talking in a normal volume voice and even in areas with no traffic. Basically, from what I understand as I'm learning, my Rode Wireless Pro transmitter saves the audio in 32-bit float on the device, then transmits the signal and the receiver has it at a limit of 24-bit but when it feeds it into the Sonly ZV-1 via the mini jack, the Sony camera saves it at 16-bit on the video file. I was already planning to use the audio file from the transmitter. I'll probably just leave the transmitter out of the equation but leave the camera's onboard mic on as a redundancy back up. Not sure what the advantage of having a receiver is apart from to save the time of syncing the audio with the video. But the first thing I do in the simple Shotcut editor I use is to sperate off the audio from the video file. I think Rode could get a lot more customers if they just offered one transmitter for sale alone as they do with the earlier models. I would gone for that option and paid £120 rather than the £370 I ended up paying for the whole kit.
Yes correct. I mentioned in the video this exact process. It would be nice if they did sell just the transmitter as is. Most of the time the 16bit or 24bit audio is enough if captured correctly but certainly does not have as much flexibility as a 32bit float file
Yeah the reason I went to check my camera's bit capacity was that you talked about some cameras not taking 24 bit. I'm just learning to use them now so I saved your video and will watch a few times more. If I'm a noob and want to learn to edit the audio file and adjust things in post is Audacity the best way or will simple video editors such as Shotcut let me do it? @@JasonMorrisphotocinema
Practical questions: Can I plug a Videomic NTG that has its own amplifier and gain control instead of those lav mics to have a portable solution that I can record on? Also you talked about the timecode: I have two cameras, xt4 and xpro3, can I record with the videomic ntg like I ask in the first question AND in the same time have the timecode on the audio recording and baked on the two cameras via the audio jack? I've been waiting since April for the Deity pr2 with timecode that was supposed to be released in November (coupled with tc1 units) but no news from deity.
I know I could search this, however, I'm here now. Can the LED's be turned off during use so as not to be distracting? Thanks Jason, great stuff as always 👍.
Great system overall my only complaint was the brass screw on the mics is VERY EASY TO LOSE...i sent email to customer support to order one and they sent me 6 NO CHARGE... deity have fixed this the screw on their mics WILL NOT COME OFF...
While I'm pretty good at my own audio, I would like to upgrade to 32-bit at some point. I'm essentially a talking head channel so I don't have to worry about being far away from my camera (iPhone 15 Pro Max) and needing a wireless connection to do sync from far away. My plan is to get the Neewer 32-bit lav. At some point I'll have at least 3 to use for my interviews. But the audio is impressive with the Rode.
awesom video jason! (i may have missed it) but does this mic have the option to record into the footage of the camera 'and' simultaneously record internal (32 float) into the transmitter? Or is it only 1 or the other?
Just found your channel and subbed. I was watching the FeiYu Mini 2 gimbal video and left a couple of questions. I would be super helpful if you could a look and give me your thoughts. lol, this video went live about 30 minutes before my Rode Wireless Pro order arrived at my door here in Northern England. I'm just charging the transmitters and reciever up before going out to do a test so about to watch this while I wait :)
Yeah both this and the DJI mic is my top choice but only issue is the internal battery which as of every other battery operated device its battery will deteriorate after awhile thus not sure if able to replace it thereafter.
This is not the early 2000s anymore. Batteries don't die like that anymore. Modern batteries will last you a lifetime and you won't even be able to notice the minuscule degradation.
I can't believe most reviewers missed to mention the simple function of when the camera is switched on/off, the receiver turns on/off automatically. Thats a subtle workflow-efficiency feature. Cheers!
thank you for watching. Merry Xmas
Ive been using them for about 2 months now and am in love with them! shooting those loud corporate events has been a gamechanger with these! Great video man! have a great xmas!
thank you for watching. Merry Xmas
Looking back at 2023, this was the best purchase I made overall. I was recording interviews on the floor of a trade show and running (sometimes literally) back and forth from one side of the convention center to the other to set up audio on different talent. Connected lavs over 20 different times and had one interview get saved entirely by the 32-bit float capability. The audio peaked in camera as the guy SHOUTED randomly several times. I was able to export the audio and eliminate all distortion. He also came in for a big hug and the sound of their clothes and two mics getting slammed up against was also recovered. Not a CHANCE I could have shot those clips again. But the charging case kept them powered up all day, the communication to the iPhone via USB-C allowed me to make changes to them in real time. They’re just such a great product.
As usual, my friend, I never expected anything less than this outstanding and consistently exceptional performance from you.
thank you very much
Looking forward to using 32 bit float, I ordered mine, waiting for it to be shipped. GainAssist does not apply to on-board recordings. Which means you can get your 32-bit float recordings untouched by gain assist internally and the receiver will be spared the clipping at 24 bits with gain assist. Going to be testing this out myself.
I've had mine as soon as it became available here in the USA. It works very well and the audio quality is excellent.
absolutely worth it!
Brilliant!! Fantastic work Jason!
Epic video as always keep going!!
also 2nd comment
thnak you very much
@JasonMorrisphotocinema Really want to get into shooting more videos this really helped me! Merry Xmas Jason!!
edit: Love this review helps me to find what recorder and/ or mic to find. From Aus too...
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I get the feeling that 32 bit float is now the basic standard for audio gear - and it doesn't have to be expensive. I've recently bought a Zoom M2 stereo / mic recorder that I'd previously turned my nose up at, but when I saw it was on sale for about the usual price of the humble but popular Zoom H1N I brushed the moths off my wallet and bought one (thanks for the bargain, Videoguys - Micro SD card included!). Anyway, although the form factor isn't as videocentric as the M3, its feature set is pretty impressive. It only records in 32 bit float. But it can export internally to 24 or 16 bits (creating a copy on the card) and can even normalise internally too. It can apply normalisation on playback without creating another copy, and it can output 32 bit float via USB-C for the rare devices (so far) as can accept that. And its headphone output will accept incoming playback audio from a connected USB-C device, eg the Pocket 3. Anyway, my point is, you get all that for next to nothing. 32 bit float is the new norm! And very good too.
thank you. Yes I agree. 32bit float should be the new norm for sure!
Having the wireless pro set to internal auto record whenever it’s turned on has already saved me multiple times!
I could imagine. Your line of work It makes sense to have wireless recording!
Great info Jason. Your are a audio god!
can you give me a budget solution for my sony a6000 ?
Can you record stereo from one transmitter which is connected to a stereo mic via the 3.5 output ? I want to connect my Azden smx -30 which is pro shotgun mono OR can be put in stereo mode for amazing wildlife sound.
Jason, thanks for the great review. Regarding the Rode Wireless pro, would the sound be clearly better if I use Sanken Cos 11 lavs instead of the lavs that comes with the Rode?
Does it need a TRRS cable like the videomic NTG to turn on automatically when connected to the camera? I guess so.
Regarding the safeguard at 5:31. Let me state for the record in owning the previous DJI Wireless Mic Kit - we were doing shoots overseas and three different times if you touched the receiver wrong the screen would say "format complete." So I called DJI with this new one and asked, "Is there an easy way for me to delete the files in the field?" They said no, you have to plug it in, then connect to our app, then a pop up message will come up that asks if you are sure you want to delete." I said "I'LL TAKE IT!" So we bought it for this reason. People complain that you need the app. I hated the Rode Wireless Go 2 because the transfers would fail constantly. So far these seem to be quite solid and I'm happy with the safeguard as we cannot afford to go through this again.
lets go!!!
nice video like always
Appreciate it! thank you
What template is this rectamgle on left?
Just checked that my Sony ZV-1 only saves audio in 16 bit.
So the Rode Wireless Pro which I just took delivery of and went out for a street test came back horrible on the ZV-1 footage. It sounded very raspy and I was only talking in a normal volume voice and even in areas with no traffic.
Basically, from what I understand as I'm learning, my Rode Wireless Pro transmitter saves the audio in 32-bit float on the device, then transmits the signal and the receiver has it at a limit of 24-bit but when it feeds it into the Sonly ZV-1 via the mini jack, the Sony camera saves it at 16-bit on the video file.
I was already planning to use the audio file from the transmitter. I'll probably just leave the transmitter out of the equation but leave the camera's onboard mic on as a redundancy back up.
Not sure what the advantage of having a receiver is apart from to save the time of syncing the audio with the video. But the first thing I do in the simple Shotcut editor I use is to sperate off the audio from the video file.
I think Rode could get a lot more customers if they just offered one transmitter for sale alone as they do with the earlier models. I would gone for that option and paid £120 rather than the £370 I ended up paying for the whole kit.
Yes correct. I mentioned in the video this exact process. It would be nice if they did sell just the transmitter as is. Most of the time the 16bit or 24bit audio is enough if captured correctly but certainly does not have as much flexibility as a 32bit float file
Yeah the reason I went to check my camera's bit capacity was that you talked about some cameras not taking 24 bit.
I'm just learning to use them now so I saved your video and will watch a few times more.
If I'm a noob and want to learn to edit the audio file and adjust things in post is Audacity the best way or will simple video editors such as Shotcut let me do it?
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema
How would you compare this with the Deity Theos wireless system? Would be a good comparison. Great overall roundup of the features.
Practical questions:
Can I plug a Videomic NTG that has its own amplifier and gain control instead of those lav mics to have a portable solution that I can record on?
Also you talked about the timecode: I have two cameras, xt4 and xpro3, can I record with the videomic ntg like I ask in the first question AND in the same time have the timecode on the audio recording and baked on the two cameras via the audio jack?
I've been waiting since April for the Deity pr2 with timecode that was supposed to be released in November (coupled with tc1 units) but no news from deity.
I know I could search this, however, I'm here now. Can the LED's be turned off during use so as not to be distracting? Thanks Jason, great stuff as always 👍.
I believe it can yes
Go for the rode or wait for DJI mic 2 pack?
Ufff that burn calling out other RUclipsrs 😂 great review I can’t wait to try my wireless pro.
constructive criticism haha. to be fair they are not filmmaking channels
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema are you a red? If so ynwa
@@Michelleana you know it! LFC through and through
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Maybe they like that effect 😂 3:44
hahaha
Great system overall my only complaint was the brass screw on the mics is VERY EASY TO LOSE...i sent email to customer support to order one and they sent me 6 NO CHARGE... deity have fixed this the screw on their mics WILL NOT COME OFF...
Great Review Jason, I have the original wireless go & now with 32bit float, I think it’s time to upgrade. Thanks for the info - Nutty Nashy🤪😜😝
hahaha thanks for stopping by again. Yeah 32bit float is pretty insane in such a small device
Great video! How do you typically process your audio?
very basic not going to lie. I'm not an audio processing guru and just make the audio sound better for my voice
While I'm pretty good at my own audio, I would like to upgrade to 32-bit at some point. I'm essentially a talking head channel so I don't have to worry about being far away from my camera (iPhone 15 Pro Max) and needing a wireless connection to do sync from far away. My plan is to get the Neewer 32-bit lav. At some point I'll have at least 3 to use for my interviews. But the audio is impressive with the Rode.
awesom video jason! (i may have missed it) but does this mic have the option to record into the footage of the camera 'and' simultaneously record internal (32 float) into the transmitter? Or is it only 1 or the other?
nvm, i rewatched your video and i seem to have answered my own question :) but regardless, awesome review!
Just found your channel and subbed.
I was watching the FeiYu Mini 2 gimbal video and left a couple of questions. I would be super helpful if you could a look and give me your thoughts.
lol, this video went live about 30 minutes before my Rode Wireless Pro order arrived at my door here in Northern England.
I'm just charging the transmitters and reciever up before going out to do a test so about to watch this while I wait :)
thanks for the sub. Apologies. A lot of questions come through.
Yeah both this and the DJI mic is my top choice but only issue is the internal battery which as of every other battery operated device its battery will deteriorate after awhile thus not sure if able to replace it thereafter.
This is not the early 2000s anymore. Batteries don't die like that anymore. Modern batteries will last you a lifetime and you won't even be able to notice the minuscule degradation.
Yeah, the Northrups are basically a walking commercial for buying better sound equipment and diffusion filters.
hahaha/ It seems like they own the Rode but must incorrectly balance the audio in post
The Rhode without the Lav clearly sounds better to me..
Probably because he had the lav to the right of his neck. Likely would’ve picked it up a lot better if it were down on his shirt
Mark goldbridge hahahah beat channel in the biz but worst audio😂