Setlist: 00:57: Blue Monday 08:41: Age Of Consent 13:45: Lonesome Tonight 19:46: Your Silent Face 27:40: Leave Me Alone 32:23: 5 8 6 39:35: Denial 45:02: Confusion 51:06: Temptation 59:23: Thieves Like Us 1:19:36: Everything's Gone Green
I'm loving every bit about this! Starting with the fact that I'm watching a now legendary band in their early days playing a concert after midnight in some club in England roughly two weeks before my first birthday. Still can't believe such a good quality recording even exists. Thanks for uploading this! As for the performance, it's raw and unpolished but full of passion, pretty much exactly opposite to nowaday's standard. And it absolutely works! It also gives me comfort that you don't have to be a virtuoso to write great songs. And man, did they write great songs!
I couldn't agree with you more there, Bob...it just sucks for me that I was only 16y/o until the end of 1990 & thus much of my fandom of both bands had to be performed retrospectively, as well as as promptly as possible, a number of years prior to the internet too!! 'Technique' was/is my all-time favourite N/O album, whereas I detested just about everything about 'Republic', from the cover 'artwork' to all of the singles, apart from 'World [the Price of Love]' & also 'Liar' as a non-single track from the album... And while I still refer to New Order as my favourite band, I always add the "pre-Hooky-departure" disclaimer, because even the introduction of not one but eventually two new band members - obviously Phil & a few years later, Tom - couldn't come close to Hooky's importance to the band, as a genuine personality, an immensely unique & awesome bassist & even for his stage presence alone...& while their musical output was always notoriously (not to mention frustratingly, for fans of the band) mollusc-esque in its near-painful lethargy, I always felt that Barney needed the antagonism that his schoolmate, Hooky could be assured or providing him, while the über-sedate married pair of Steve & Gillian simply went with the flow &/or seemed content enough to do as they were told, or what was required of them...& whereas Hooky's a straight-up man's man & a great guy (I was fortunate to have communicated with him upon Twitter for a few months a few years ago now), it's no secret that Barney's a VERY complex individual, dating back to his very early childhood years & his truly bizarre family dynamic...& as a fellow fan, I've no doubt that you're already aware to what I'm referring re: the origins of Mr Bernard Albrecht/Dicken/Sumner...anyway, that's more than sufficient verbosity from me, especially after yours was such a succinct post! Cheers & best wishes to you from 'Down Under', Bob...take good care out there...Matt.
The ultimate power couple Gillian and Stephen The Other Two. Stephen is a beast on the drums, battering those skins like Bill Ward used to, and Gillan who was able to come into the band learn an instrument from scratch eventually to a pretty decent standard whilst managing to look ethereal and majestic.
They were like a garage band back then. Very unrefined - even raw. Real fans can appreciate this and recognize how then grew and developed as a band in the coming years. Others will look at this and unknowingly throw away as garbage. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Timeless band. Thanks New Order...
Absolutely, Kev'...have you seen them playing 'Thieves Like Us' upon the German 'Music Convoy' video (available to watch on here, together with Depeche Mode playing/miming 'People Are People') in 1984, perchance? It was as though they actually regressed before their legendary progression over the subsequent years when you watch that! And of course, as the acoustics at The Haçienda were notoriously atrocious for live bands, I'm actually surprised that they sounded as good as they do/did in this fantastic 'time capsule' of some 40-plus years...I was extremely fortunate to see them play live at Reading back in '98 (esp' when I'd previously purchased tickets to the Phoenix Festival in order to see New Order & Garbage play, only for it to be cancelled due to insufficient ticket sales - but thankfully, Reading snapped them up promptly & thus I was able to watch them both play), little more than a week before my return flight to Oz had already been booked! And both bands were amazing but New Order was my primary reason for being there & what's more, my Aussie roommate during 3 of my 6 months spent in London in '98 became a fan of New Order that night, after having only attended the festival initially to see Garbage play - but he was absolutely astounded by just how much 'control' (please pardon the weak pun there, fellow fan!) they held over their fans, especially as they'd not played together for some 5 years before this show...ah, thank God for Rob Gretton (RIP), eh?! Cheers & best wishes from (no longer so sunny) 'Down Under', mate...Matt.
Its actually really beautiful to see. The raw, unpolished, thing. On the one hand, it makes you appreciate the hand that studio production played (obviously a MAJOR part of their commercial success) but also illustrates how much the purity and unrefined beauty informed the authenticity of who they were. Without THAT, the end product, however refined, would not have had the same resonance. However polished a product, it will never CONNECT in the same way, unless it has SOUL.
Holy shit! And here was I in a previous reply, thanking God that I was fortunate to have seen them play the once at Reading back in '98, after the Phoenix Festival, to which I'd purchased my ticket, had fallen through & my return flight home to Oz (& my G/F of 8 years) was already booked for early September, after having spent 6 months in the UK (primarily to see my beloved Gunners play at Highbury & I did that 3 times - plus we won the 'Double' that season - & to watch a day of the Test match at Lords with my reciprocal MCC m'ship & I ticked that one off as well & most of all, hoping to see New Order play for their first time in 5 years but if not for the lads at Reading, it would all have come to nowt in the end) but it all came to fruition, as though I'd been able to programme it myself with some kind of bizarre higher power!! And what a set list & their performance was FAR tighter than I'd dared to hope for, especially after such a long (five-year) sabbatical as the band...well, now I've rewritten that previous über-verbose rendition once again...please accept my sincere apologies for that, mate! Hey, I'm assuming here that you've seen New Order play live both with & without Hooky...so, may I please enquire re: your thoughts of the band in both incarnations? I must be honest, as a massive fan of Hooky - both as a person & as a musician, not to mention an integral part of both New Order & Joy Division - I've had absolutely no interest in post-Hooky New Order & I'll go even further by saying that there's just something about Phil, in particular, that rubs me the wrong way...plus I'm absolutely disgusted by how Barney screwed over a virtually lifelong mate with whom he had gone through so much, while Steve & Gillian were their typically timid, go-with-the-flow selves & thus they also screwed him over...but Barney seems to love having his young fellas kissing his arse, all while he gains an ever-increasing paunch & dances like more & more of a douche as each year passes by! Yeah, pretty harsh, I know but fuck it, I love Hooky & don't love anything about New Order without him, sadly...OK, rant officially OVER & OUT!!
@@lavielemond seen New Order about 35 times, seen New Odour 3 times and just felt its wrong without hookster, but i did like their album, seen ookie s lot 5 times and they are the best of the bunch, and i agree with everything you state, but enoughs enough...looking for new stuff now.....
Oh to be a teenager again, this music was so important to me and still stands the test of time now. What a performance, raw energy abounds..... excellent.
New Order back in the day were always an utter shambles live... it was almost as if they'd never practiced half of this stuff... but regardless of their technical deficiencies (Stephen Morris excepted) - there was still something charmingly disarming about the way they managed to fumble their way through a live set.
@@combfilter3654 I'm a fan of The Stone Roses, but I'm also a fan of New Order, The Smiths, Happy Mondays, Joy Division, The Fall and Frank Sidebottom... I don't see the relevance of your comment
I would have almost fought to see New Order hone their craft in the early 80s. There can not possibly be any complaints about seeing this live in its incubation in the day.
I dont care how imperfect they sounded, but somehow they just made even their screwups on stage sound so good! I cant explain it! So ahead of their time OMG!
I really love this imperfection and awkwardness of Barney and his performance 💔 There is always a vulnerability in this. He’s the soul of New Order. Turned bug into a feature!!🔥
I've been a New Order fan since the early 90s. But I've never liked their live material until much later. It's not that they are bad live, it's just that it's a difference experience. I love the complex electronic beats and the sound of their studio material. I love the remixes and the stuff they can do in the studio that they can't recreate live. So I rarely listened to their live shows. But with the advent of RUclips I can watch their live stuff and it has given me a new appreciation for what they did. I always have to remind myself of the timeframe that it was being performed. This was 1983 and technology was very different then. Today these electronic bands can just push a button and play a show. A lot of this stuff was performed live and each show has it's own character. The mistakes they make give it a reference for how hard it actually was playing this music live. I just regret that I never had the chance to see them do it live myself.
people forget how hard the tech was to run back then, and it took Bernard a while to learn to sing, but they sounded huge when i saw them at finsbury park in 87
@thecassetteconverter if I remember rightly we caught the last train home to Manchester. I was only 19 and couldn’t afford to stay over. B&b’s were proper dives weren’t they lol.
This completely blew my mind here in late 2023. I remember this band from like 1988 and had no idea about this in 1983. And holy crap do they sound amazing and terrible at the very same time.
Can't stand new order now actually for me think the light show has completely taken over the power of the songs. Wish new order would go back to just the basis of playing live and just them.
soo much emotions during the last song Ian Curtis wrote.. In a Lonely Place .. Wow , I never seen this show , wonderful quality and setlist! Pure talent, love you all
Was there but hard to remember it but great!, danced all night! Yes imperfect but it’ genuine charm of the times!. Prefer then to now. Seen them in Dublin recently 40yrs later and prefer this ensemble including hooky. Miss the bastard,. lol
Loving this. Surely New Order at their absolute peak? I tell you, that DMX must've been looking at Steve Morris and thinking that guy'll put us drum machines out of business! Fabulous band, while it lasted.
This is from a time when there were no metronomes in the ears of the musicians, where the rustic sounded more authentic, less perfect, more human, wonderful
Around 19:30 we can hear the guitar riff of Sister Ray from The Velvet Underground What a fookin awesome setlist! Except for not including Ceremony....
Me too. I even transferred it to digital so that I wouldn’t lose it. It actually sounds better than this. I think it’s because this video hasn’t been mixed and is rather dry. This was the video shot for the Play at home documentary. This and more rarities are included on a dvd included in the Power corruption and lies boxset from a few years ago.
@@factoryfactory7142 Hiya. I have it on cd and I ripped a copy so it’s on a file on a hard drive somewhere. Dunno how I’d get it to you? No charge other than postage.
I tried to get into this gig at 15 but got knocked back. I watched them premier Thieves Like Us and Lonesone Tonight, in the soundcheck on multiple screens in the TV lorry outside. They dressed all in white and were deeply tanned which was deeply uncool at the time. Today I find that the intro music was Kita Kita by Gasper Lawal, a Yoruba musican much loved by my late father (Yoruba man). THEY WERE CALLING ME but I had no chance with those bouncers.
The ultimate Acid trip New Order a nightclub and far too many lights add too many drinks and a bunch of bodies sweating all around you gyrating to the music it was the best of times and will always be one of my favourite times in my life than x New Odour for the great sound trak 😊❤😢🎉 4:21
Billy Barty’s Roller Fantasy to be exact. I was there. “Listen if you like this you must like Ronald Reagan. If you like this, you’ll like fookin’ anything.” - Bernard, Fullerton
Wow! ive been looking for the whole concert for years having only ever seen Lonesome Tonight, Temptaion and Thieves like Us which were shown on the Play at Home program on Ch4 you my friend are a genius! i salute you!!
This is taken from the Power corruption and lies boxset that was released a few years back. It came with cds and dvds with all manner of rarities. Mainly from Stephen’s video archives.
My first tour seeing them of 3 consecutive tours. Felt Forum, in Manhattan, adjacent to Madison Square Garden. I greeted them before the show as they were in a cab coming to the gig! Got all their autographs. I was dumbstruck. a certain ratio supported them. They goaded the crowd before they left. My memory's thin, but New Order may have played this as their sole encore effort before leaving their instruments on and walking off. All the lights were on, and I guess they had a bar to find. Great, great memories as this was their last great hurrah, albums wise. In. My. Opinion. 😊
The sound like friends of mine and me when we were just jamming as young chaps. But NO become much better I saw them live around 2005 on a festival and they were great, with later stuff but also with Joy Division "analog" songs.
I don't think it was shambolic. I think it was so complicated and advanced that to pull it off love 100% faultless was almost impossible. I saw them so many times between 1983 and 1986, couldn't get it enough. Still have rhe stubs was even at Gmex 10 year anniversary. 1986
This concert is crazy. Sounds awesome!!!! The 15 minute version of Thieves like Us is the best I've ever heard. The beginning with Blue Monday with space sounds is anthological. Blessed are those who were there, at La Hacienda.
I remember back in the day different type of music but they always had it in for U2 . Bono fancied been lead singer with them . New order were always my favourite band But God i bet Bono is glad he stayed with U2 . They went absolute massive and New Order to be honest never got any better .Still my all time favourite band though . God he was a crap live singer but one of my teenage heroes all the same !!
Wow, what a journey back in time .. You can feel their very own incredible energies and their last two songs "In A Lonely Place" & "Everything's Gone Green" - what a perfect conclusion, opposite and yet so similar in their own way .. In their relatively young years, the boys have already had a lot behind them, some incredible experiences, and have continued on the path. This cannot be emphasized enough, respect for it and I would like to dedicate a moment of my thoughts to Ian Curtis 🖤 Great band, my respect for their life's work and my thanks for allowing me to watch this concert 🎼✨️🖤🍷
Loved seeing New Order in 83, 85 and 87 in New York...live ...Bernard was the weakest link but accepted it...was still happy to see them...fav show was at the Felt Forum in NY, Low Life tour but if I recall didn't play much than 60 min or so. Would love yo get the audio for this show - sounds soooo good!! THANK YOU FOR UPLOADING! GREAT NOSTALGIC SET FOR ME!!
What made them special was that you just never knew what they would be like at each gig. Here at Hacienda they were awesome, as they were at Music for Miners at the Royal Festival Hall a year later when they trialled The Perfect Kiss as I’ve Got a Cock like the M1 and then encored with Decades. But they could be truly awful as they were at Brixton Academy in Dec 83. Some of the best gigs though, Guildhall, Hull in August 84, Lancaster University, March 85 and the awesome but quite violent Macclesfield Leisure Centre double-header with Happy Mondays in April 85. They were pretty darn good at The Festival of the 10th Summer finale at G-MEX in July 86. I thought they blew The Smiths off the stage but Mark E Smith and The Fall starting their set with Cruisers Creek will stay with me to the grave. Very happy memories.
Saw them a year before at Futurama 4, they were still working out what they were about, and a year later from the Hacienda gig had a much better idea - great concert. Saw them three years later in Oxford when they must have been in a grump and played 40 minutes not coming back again. Again in 87 at Glastonbury, very polished but prefer the rawness of the early 80s. Finally as a group of old men at Brixton Academy around 07, when the band were still together. It felt 25 years too late.
Doubt you'd have anything good to say if you saw them now. Saw them 4 times in the last 15 years here in Australia. Karaoke at best. Last decent gig I saw them was in Glasgow in either 2000 or 2001. Barney and Hooky obviously had a tiff that night as Barney was slagging Hooky off. Love him but he's a proper moody fckr.
Sounds about right. Last time I saw them live was in 2001 (or was it 2002?) Big Day Out - Auckland. It was pretty good, but from what I can see in the past decade, it's all become a bit mid-morning singalong at the Sunnyvale Retirement Home @@paulmca9731
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Setlist:
00:57: Blue Monday
08:41: Age Of Consent
13:45: Lonesome Tonight
19:46: Your Silent Face
27:40: Leave Me Alone
32:23: 5 8 6
39:35: Denial
45:02: Confusion
51:06: Temptation
59:23: Thieves Like Us
1:19:36: Everything's Gone Green
Muchas gracias Mr Kamikaze!!!!! Cheers!
In A Lonely Place is 1:14:16
00:01 Kita Kita by Gasper Lawal
Fantástico. Adoro New Order! ❤
ありがとう😊
I'm loving every bit about this! Starting with the fact that I'm watching a now legendary band in their early days playing a concert after midnight in some club in England roughly two weeks before my first birthday. Still can't believe such a good quality recording even exists. Thanks for uploading this! As for the performance, it's raw and unpolished but full of passion, pretty much exactly opposite to nowaday's standard. And it absolutely works! It also gives me comfort that you don't have to be a virtuoso to write great songs. And man, did they write great songs!
Well said! Classic New Order!
It's the HACIENDA MANCHESTER. Biggest night club. Owned by Factory Records and Tony Wilson and New Order
This was recorded as part of a Factory Records documentary, fortunately AI has improved the sound and data quality
they owned this club!
The hacienda was no underground club
Joy Division and New Order between 1978 and 1990 were utterly brilliant. Two of the best bands, if not the best, of that era
I couldn't agree with you more there, Bob...it just sucks for me that I was only 16y/o until the end of 1990 & thus much of my fandom of both bands had to be performed retrospectively, as well as as promptly as possible, a number of years prior to the internet too!! 'Technique' was/is my all-time favourite N/O album, whereas I detested just about everything about 'Republic', from the cover 'artwork' to all of the singles, apart from 'World [the Price of Love]' & also 'Liar' as a non-single track from the album...
And while I still refer to New Order as my favourite band, I always add the "pre-Hooky-departure" disclaimer, because even the introduction of not one but eventually two new band members - obviously Phil & a few years later, Tom - couldn't come close to Hooky's importance to the band, as a genuine personality, an immensely unique & awesome bassist & even for his stage presence alone...& while their musical output was always notoriously (not to mention frustratingly, for fans of the band) mollusc-esque in its near-painful lethargy, I always felt that Barney needed the antagonism that his schoolmate, Hooky could be assured or providing him, while the über-sedate married pair of Steve & Gillian simply went with the flow &/or seemed content enough to do as they were told, or what was required of them...& whereas Hooky's a straight-up man's man & a great guy (I was fortunate to have communicated with him upon Twitter for a few months a few years ago now), it's no secret that Barney's a VERY complex individual, dating back to his very early childhood years & his truly bizarre family dynamic...& as a fellow fan, I've no doubt that you're already aware to what I'm referring re: the origins of Mr Bernard Albrecht/Dicken/Sumner...anyway, that's more than sufficient verbosity from me, especially after yours was such a succinct post!
Cheers & best wishes to you from 'Down Under', Bob...take good care out there...Matt.
They are the same band. Don't know why people feel the need to make a distinction.
@@TheBionicRectum eh?
@@TheBionicRectum Did New Order exist in 1978?
Stephen Morris is a fucking machine! Must be running on adrenaline the whole 1 hour 30 mins most underrated drummer ever!
Fit as a fiddle! His book is well funny!
While I saw him at the concert sweating and setting the band's rhythm I thought exactly the same thing.
@@thecassetteconverterextremely underrated as a musician and a lovely person to be around...Gillian is one lucky gal
The ultimate power couple Gillian and Stephen The Other Two. Stephen is a beast on the drums, battering those skins like Bill Ward used to, and Gillan who was able to come into the band learn an instrument from scratch eventually to a pretty decent standard whilst managing to look ethereal and majestic.
Old school drummer ❤🥁
i was there right in front of Hooky. have some great foto's of the gig! prints available!
I'm interested, mate...would you post 'Down Under', perchance? Cheers for now...Matt.
Very cool, I wasn’t even born for bother 2 years
They were like a garage band back then. Very unrefined - even raw. Real fans can appreciate this and recognize how then grew and developed as a band in the coming years. Others will look at this and unknowingly throw away as garbage. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Timeless band. Thanks New Order...
Drums and bass was tight, even in these early days. Bernard on Guitar and especially vocals was pretty shaky here.
Absolutely, Kev'...have you seen them playing 'Thieves Like Us' upon the German 'Music Convoy' video (available to watch on here, together with Depeche Mode playing/miming 'People Are People') in 1984, perchance? It was as though they actually regressed before their legendary progression over the subsequent years when you watch that! And of course, as the acoustics at The Haçienda were notoriously atrocious for live bands, I'm actually surprised that they sounded as good as they do/did in this fantastic 'time capsule' of some 40-plus years...I was extremely fortunate to see them play live at Reading back in '98 (esp' when I'd previously purchased tickets to the Phoenix Festival in order to see New Order & Garbage play, only for it to be cancelled due to insufficient ticket sales - but thankfully, Reading snapped them up promptly & thus I was able to watch them both play), little more than a week before my return flight to Oz had already been booked! And both bands were amazing but New Order was my primary reason for being there & what's more, my Aussie roommate during 3 of my 6 months spent in London in '98 became a fan of New Order that night, after having only attended the festival initially to see Garbage play - but he was absolutely astounded by just how much 'control' (please pardon the weak pun there, fellow fan!) they held over their fans, especially as they'd not played together for some 5 years before this show...ah, thank God for Rob Gretton (RIP), eh?!
Cheers & best wishes from (no longer so sunny) 'Down Under', mate...Matt.
Its actually really beautiful to see. The raw, unpolished, thing.
On the one hand, it makes you appreciate the hand that studio production played (obviously a MAJOR part of their commercial success) but also illustrates how much the purity and unrefined beauty informed the authenticity of who they were.
Without THAT, the end product, however refined, would not have had the same resonance.
However polished a product, it will never CONNECT in the same way, unless it has SOUL.
I don't know what you're talking about this is what is is real. Whoever filmed this god bless you 100X
If there was one thing i nailed in my lifetime, it was seeing New Order live over 20 times around the UK 😊 No Regrets.
Nice one! Think am on about 4-5 times now...
Lucky stiff to have seen N.O. Adam Ant plays often in the UK. Coming here in the U.S. early 2023 but tics over 200 each.
@@govinda102000 contact a musician? called Johnny Normal from warwickshire uk, hes a big mate of adams and could help you out.
Holy shit! And here was I in a previous reply, thanking God that I was fortunate to have seen them play the once at Reading back in '98, after the Phoenix Festival, to which I'd purchased my ticket, had fallen through & my return flight home to Oz (& my G/F of 8 years) was already booked for early September, after having spent 6 months in the UK (primarily to see my beloved Gunners play at Highbury & I did that 3 times - plus we won the 'Double' that season - & to watch a day of the Test match at Lords with my reciprocal MCC m'ship & I ticked that one off as well & most of all, hoping to see New Order play for their first time in 5 years but if not for the lads at Reading, it would all have come to nowt in the end) but it all came to fruition, as though I'd been able to programme it myself with some kind of bizarre higher power!! And what a set list & their performance was FAR tighter than I'd dared to hope for, especially after such a long (five-year) sabbatical as the band...well, now I've rewritten that previous über-verbose rendition once again...please accept my sincere apologies for that, mate!
Hey, I'm assuming here that you've seen New Order play live both with & without Hooky...so, may I please enquire re: your thoughts of the band in both incarnations? I must be honest, as a massive fan of Hooky - both as a person & as a musician, not to mention an integral part of both New Order & Joy Division - I've had absolutely no interest in post-Hooky New Order & I'll go even further by saying that there's just something about Phil, in particular, that rubs me the wrong way...plus I'm absolutely disgusted by how Barney screwed over a virtually lifelong mate with whom he had gone through so much, while Steve & Gillian were their typically timid, go-with-the-flow selves & thus they also screwed him over...but Barney seems to love having his young fellas kissing his arse, all while he gains an ever-increasing paunch & dances like more & more of a douche as each year passes by! Yeah, pretty harsh, I know but fuck it, I love Hooky & don't love anything about New Order without him, sadly...OK, rant officially OVER & OUT!!
@@lavielemond seen New Order about 35 times, seen New Odour 3 times and just felt its wrong without hookster, but i did like their album, seen ookie s lot 5 times and they are the best of the bunch, and i agree with everything you state, but enoughs enough...looking for new stuff now.....
Let’s hear it for Gillian. Sometimes overlooked member of new order.👍
Spot on....
Tasty Fish!
We ❤ Gillian
Focused interest and sooooo right. Early crush especially on guitar 🎸
No Other Two, no New Order
Oh to be a teenager again, this music was so important to me and still stands the test of time now. What a performance, raw energy abounds..... excellent.
❤👍♥️
I feel sad in my heart that I cannot experience this again like it was back then. The closest thing I have is this video
New Order back in the day were always an utter shambles live... it was almost as if they'd never practiced half of this stuff... but regardless of their technical deficiencies (Stephen Morris excepted) - there was still something charmingly disarming about the way they managed to fumble their way through a live set.
That’s what happens when you bring in a member who has no proficiency, move your guitarist to lead singer, and are using programming.
Those ‘harmonies’ … my lord … like Peter’s monitors were completely inaudible and he decided to ‘muscle’ through it anyway.
@@combfilter3654What does this mean?
@@combfilter3654 I'm a fan of The Stone Roses, but I'm also a fan of New Order, The Smiths, Happy Mondays, Joy Division, The Fall and Frank Sidebottom... I don't see the relevance of your comment
I would have almost fought to see New Order hone their craft in the early 80s. There can not possibly be any complaints about seeing this live in its incubation in the day.
Such a tease with that Sister Ray intro!
Yeh lol. "Should hear our version of Louie Louie whoa.."
I dont care how imperfect they sounded, but somehow they just made even their screwups on stage sound so good! I cant explain it! So ahead of their time OMG!
Exactly👍
I really love this imperfection and awkwardness of Barney and his performance 💔 There is always a vulnerability in this. He’s the soul of New Order. Turned bug into a feature!!🔥
I've been a New Order fan since the early 90s. But I've never liked their live material until much later. It's not that they are bad live, it's just that it's a difference experience. I love the complex electronic beats and the sound of their studio material. I love the remixes and the stuff they can do in the studio that they can't recreate live. So I rarely listened to their live shows. But with the advent of RUclips I can watch their live stuff and it has given me a new appreciation for what they did.
I always have to remind myself of the timeframe that it was being performed. This was 1983 and technology was very different then. Today these electronic bands can just push a button and play a show. A lot of this stuff was performed live and each show has it's own character. The mistakes they make give it a reference for how hard it actually was playing this music live. I just regret that I never had the chance to see them do it live myself.
TRAINWRECK live…but my god this setlist is ACE…absolute peak New Order…
Thank god this footage exists
people forget how hard the tech was to run back then, and it took Bernard a while to learn to sing, but they sounded huge when i saw them at finsbury park in 87
Was at Finsbury also...
I was at Finsbury Park too! Fab!
@@jacquihollins1046 I remember staying in a B and B opposite the park. Was a proper dive!
@thecassetteconverter if I remember rightly we caught the last train home to Manchester. I was only 19 and couldn’t afford to stay over. B&b’s were proper dives weren’t they lol.
@@jacquihollins1046 Dodgy as well! Got train back next day to Macc and half the band got off but they travelled back in the 1st class carriage lol...
Saw this lot high at glasto in 87 and never came down. Passion over proficiency.
37 years high....gettin!
This completely blew my mind here in late 2023. I remember this band from like 1988 and had no idea about this in 1983. And holy crap do they sound amazing and terrible at the very same time.
LOL...Exactly!
❤👍♥️
Can't stand new order now actually for me think the light show has completely taken over the power of the songs.
Wish new order would go back to just the basis of playing live and just them.
@@onealspence8548. 🤔You're probably right about that my dear 👍
Love New Order, memories of my youth
Barney has never been the best of singers but there’s always been a vulnerability to his voice which I love
YEAH ABSOLUTELY SHIT GUITARIST TOO BUT I LOVE HIM
And back then, Steve and Hooky always saved him.
Lush synths
@@whiterat1977he’s great on record but too nervous or drunk on stage
Quanti errori..li adoro e li amo.. grande intensità
The REAL NewOrder. This the band that influenced lots of genetarions since Joy Divison's era!
soo much emotions during the last song Ian Curtis wrote.. In a Lonely Place .. Wow , I never seen this show , wonderful quality and setlist! Pure talent, love you all
Hooky it's Joy Division and
New Order he carries that bass like no Other.
Peter Hook and The Light still do a great performance.
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Hooky is great
Was there but hard to remember it but great!, danced all night! Yes imperfect but it’ genuine charm of the times!. Prefer then to now. Seen them in Dublin recently 40yrs later and prefer this ensemble including hooky. Miss the bastard,. lol
Loving this. Surely New Order at their absolute peak? I tell you, that DMX must've been looking at Steve Morris and thinking that guy'll put us drum machines out of business! Fabulous band, while it lasted.
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1982-1986 The NO Golden Era indeed.
Anyone who disagrees is jealous they weren’t there 😊
I love Bernard's voice and the way he experiments with lyrics.
....and red wine👍
No Pernod?
@@LiaM-sg8uw hahah yeh..probably mixed in with wine...👍
And what's special about it? He is good but..
If you don't get it listening to him you just don't get it. Bernard was magical.
Chokes me up watching this. Total high school days!
To have an advert at the end of a track is bad to have one in the middle of a song is sinful.😢😢😢😢😢
I think Bernard's singing in this version of Blue Mondays is superb. Much more emotion than the BBC's performance...
Not sure I’ve heard him better live. Still not good of course, but that’s not the point
nothing but love for this band.
Bravo to them for moving on and creating such beauty, your always missed and remembered Ian.
The value of their gear even back then was CRAZYYYYY
It's not the camera, it's the man behind the gun
Love a wee patsy ma'self
Their gear? I thought u meant toot. 🎉
This is from a time when there were no metronomes in the ears of the musicians, where the rustic sounded more authentic, less perfect, more human, wonderful
Holy shit this might be the GOAT of all recordings of ll time
Around 19:30 we can hear the guitar riff of Sister Ray from The Velvet Underground
What a fookin awesome setlist! Except for not including Ceremony....
Sister Ray! What a tune!
Back in 80's used to play new order to death in xr3i cassette player (max vol). Great then. Still great now.
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This was my fave bootleg cassette, i played it to death ,bought it from a record fair in leeds for 30 bob, never seen the video of it! Ace man!
Cheers..yeh it's a crackin' gig..
Me too. I even transferred it to digital so that I wouldn’t lose it. It actually sounds better than this. I think it’s because this video hasn’t been mixed and is rather dry. This was the video shot for the Play at home documentary.
This and more rarities are included on a dvd included in the Power corruption and lies boxset from a few years ago.
@@jim586 have you got it on cd? If so can i buy a copy off ya?
@@factoryfactory7142 Hiya. I have it on cd and I ripped a copy so it’s on a file on a hard drive somewhere.
Dunno how I’d get it to you? No charge other than postage.
Anyone know the intro song?
I tried to get into this gig at 15 but got knocked back.
I watched them premier Thieves Like Us and Lonesone Tonight, in the soundcheck on multiple screens in the TV lorry outside.
They dressed all in white and were deeply tanned which was deeply uncool at the time.
Today I find that the intro music was Kita Kita by Gasper Lawal, a Yoruba musican much loved by my late father (Yoruba man).
THEY WERE CALLING ME but I had no chance with those bouncers.
Security on the Hacienda...there's another story !
@@thecassetteconverter Indeed!!
@@thecassetteconverter They got worse!
We snook in the big doors age 14 to see them on the tube factory all stars
I am pretty sure that's one of the best shows I have ever seen. Amazing Talent thank you
No probs..enjoy!
So many errors and imperfections... but what does it matter? Music in a state of grace
They were my absolute favorite in high school.
insane to have seen NO at the Hacienda in the early 80s. fuck my life i was born in 1984
LOL..I didn't go to this but know a few people who went...
You sound like me exactly! Fucking sucks being a millennial. If you have standards
@@LiaM-sg8uw Saw them in 1985 though. My 1st New Order gig - ruclips.net/video/3glWEm2pS8k/видео.html
They were amazing any year in the 80s really. I'm so jelly 😢
@@LiaM-sg8uw Good times!...Not any decent music knocking about now...
The ultimate Acid trip New Order a nightclub and far too many lights add too many drinks and a bunch of bodies sweating all around you gyrating to the music it was the best of times and will always be one of my favourite times in my life than x New Odour for the great sound trak 😊❤😢🎉 4:21
To every one of us
Killer time and place. In the Blue Monday performance you can really see the pre-programmed beats and tracks with the gentle live accompaniment.
so ahead of their time...I think they were one of the first to do so...
I saw New Order on this tour at Billy Barty's Rollerama in Fullerton, Ca. on June 23, 1983. Great show!
I recently uploaded that gig here....ruclips.net/video/-2mxdn0fJ9s/видео.html
Billy Barty’s Roller Fantasy to be exact. I was there. “Listen if you like this you must like Ronald Reagan. If you like this, you’ll like fookin’ anything.” - Bernard, Fullerton
Wow! ive been looking for the whole concert for years having only ever seen Lonesome Tonight, Temptaion and Thieves like Us which were shown on the Play at Home program on Ch4 you my friend are a genius! i salute you!!
Ha no worries....enjoy it in full at last! New Order at their finest on home turf.....👍
my sentiments exactly thank you very much
This is taken from the Power corruption and lies boxset that was released a few years back. It came with cds and dvds with all manner of rarities. Mainly from Stephen’s video archives.
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My first tour seeing them of 3 consecutive tours. Felt Forum, in Manhattan, adjacent to Madison Square Garden. I greeted them before the show as they were in a cab coming to the gig! Got all their autographs. I was dumbstruck.
a certain ratio supported them. They goaded the crowd before they left.
My memory's thin, but New Order may have played this as their sole encore effort before leaving their instruments on and walking off. All the lights were on, and I guess they had a bar to find. Great, great memories as this was their last great hurrah, albums wise. In. My. Opinion. 😊
Great story. ACR and New Order! I think I may have that gig on tape and have uploaded here on the channel...ruclips.net/video/d8DU3PMhKQ4/видео.html
Love those creaky sequencers!
The sound like friends of mine and me when we were just jamming as young chaps.
But NO become much better I saw them live around 2005 on a festival and they were great, with later stuff but also with Joy Division "analog" songs.
Wow! That is cool... so very _live_ and fresh and raw and real.
I don't think it was shambolic. I think it was so complicated and advanced that to pull it off love 100% faultless was almost impossible. I saw them so many times between 1983 and 1986, couldn't get it enough. Still have rhe stubs was even at Gmex 10 year anniversary. 1986
It just doesn’t get any better.
Hail to Steve, especially on In a Lonely Place. My god!
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This is the highest level I have heard Barney's vocals in any early recording. Very interesting to hear the vocal clarity apart from the music.
Agree! Blue Monday stunned me
Opening with 'Blue Monday' is ballsy…
I saw them play in Arizona, i think it was '87 and I believe it was at the Mesa Amphitheatre? Absolutely amazing show 👏👏👏
Straight into my top 10 concerts I’d loved to have been at, what a group, morris on drums class, up there with the best
What is the other nine?
Amazing quality. Legendary gig.
Bernard still developing as a singer here. Many flat notes. He sang great later in his career with Electronic (Johnny Marr)
Too much coke
He still sings flat.
He sings much better here than the two last times I’ve seen them, 2019 and 2023
Can’t believe I stumbled upon this gem💎💎 Thank you to whomever put this out there🙏
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I 've seen them in Rennes, 85, that remains, still, my Best concert . Même boyau de la tete( feu C.servelle) avait mis une cravate 😂
Thanks for posting! This is an epic show 🎶
It is...New Order at their best/worst! lol
This concert is crazy. Sounds awesome!!!! The 15 minute version of Thieves like Us is the best I've ever heard.
The beginning with Blue Monday with space sounds is anthological.
Blessed are those who were there, at La Hacienda.
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Pure Gold. Thank you.
LOVE New Order!!!!!!!!!!
I remember back in the day different type of music but they always had it in for U2 .
Bono fancied been lead singer with them . New order were always my favourite band
But God i bet Bono is glad he stayed with U2 . They went absolute massive and New Order to be honest never got any better .Still my all time favourite band though . God he was a crap live singer but one of my teenage heroes all the same !!
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Wow that's it....fookin hell, quality and massive respect 🙏. You can't touch this 👏, ever
Wow, what a journey back in time ..
You can feel their very own incredible energies and their last two songs "In A Lonely Place" & "Everything's Gone Green" - what a perfect conclusion, opposite and yet so similar in their own way ..
In their relatively young years, the boys have already had a lot behind them, some incredible experiences, and have continued on the path.
This cannot be emphasized enough, respect for it and I would like to dedicate a moment of my thoughts to Ian Curtis 🖤
Great band, my respect for their life's work and my thanks for allowing me to watch this concert 🎼✨️🖤🍷
Bernie is not the greatest guitar player😂
@@mathiasjonsson8222 On the contrary, Barney is the greatest guitar player
This song is the template for the next plus of Electronics/ Dance musicparticularly from UK & also Australia.Fantabulous still after40 years💜❤️🤩🌈🐨🦘
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They were so good in this era…..I was 15 at the time so a bit young to see them but do remember them on rock around the clock.
I was 15 and knocked back from the gig on a blazing hot day.
Was there, and numerous other early gigs. Very, very lucky!
Dark & Beautiful
Lucky to have seen them over 25 times,but the 'new' new order without hooky is like alcohol free beer,
THANK YOU !
Loved seeing New Order in 83, 85 and 87 in New York...live ...Bernard was the weakest link but accepted it...was still happy to see them...fav show was at the Felt Forum in NY, Low Life tour but if I recall didn't play much than 60 min or so. Would love yo get the audio for this show - sounds soooo good!! THANK YOU FOR UPLOADING! GREAT NOSTALGIC SET FOR ME!!
No probs! Enjoy!
This was about when I started hearing about them.
wow this rare!! thanks for sharing
Enjoy!
Apparently, ChatGPT asked Stephen Morris how to play drums.
A legendary standard.
When i see new order i always think it's the first time they do a concert...
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What made them special was that you just never knew what they would be like at each gig. Here at Hacienda they were awesome, as they were at Music for Miners at the Royal Festival Hall a year later when they trialled The Perfect Kiss as I’ve Got a Cock like the M1 and then encored with Decades. But they could be truly awful as they were at Brixton Academy in Dec 83. Some of the best gigs though, Guildhall, Hull in August 84, Lancaster University, March 85 and the awesome but quite violent Macclesfield Leisure Centre double-header with Happy Mondays in April 85. They were pretty darn good at The Festival of the 10th Summer finale at G-MEX in July 86. I thought they blew The Smiths off the stage but Mark E Smith and The Fall starting their set with Cruisers Creek will stay with me to the grave. Very happy memories.
"blew THE SMITHS off the stage" 🤨
Well they did - in my opinion. And I saw The Smiths almost as much as I saw New Order and loved them both back then.
Peter Hook amazing Bass player
Lucky dogs who were there.
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Ничего!
De la Bonne soupe commerciale!!! Ian RIP!!
Saw them a year before at Futurama 4, they were still working out what they were about, and a year later from the Hacienda gig had a much better idea - great concert. Saw them three years later in Oxford when they must have been in a grump and played 40 minutes not coming back again. Again in 87 at Glastonbury, very polished but prefer the rawness of the early 80s. Finally as a group of old men at Brixton Academy around 07, when the band were still together. It felt 25 years too late.
Doubt you'd have anything good to say if you saw them now. Saw them 4 times in the last 15 years here in Australia. Karaoke at best. Last decent gig I saw them was in Glasgow in either 2000 or 2001. Barney and Hooky obviously had a tiff that night as Barney was slagging Hooky off. Love him but he's a proper moody fckr.
Sounds about right. Last time I saw them live was in 2001 (or was it 2002?) Big Day Out - Auckland. It was pretty good, but from what I can see in the past decade, it's all become a bit mid-morning singalong at the Sunnyvale Retirement Home @@paulmca9731
Best band ever!
Hmmm 🤨
@@epinhervin9355 give me your answer then?
@@descendingforth 60s Beatles for sure. 80s Smiths 00s Libertines
@@epinhervin9355christ, the fucking beatles again.
Home team playing. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Great footage
brilliant!!!
As bad as TLU was, EGG was fantastic. N.O. gigs were an anventure back then. What treat will we be partaking of tonight😊
They were so hot musically during this era.
Hacienda was a hot place 😀
Musically, physically...
Leave me alone! 🔥
I was there
Glad you know! Cant remember if i was or not? 😂
Thanks for posting this . I have been wanting to see this for years
No probs! Enjoy!
Jammin' !!!
such nice memories
thanks for posting mate
No probs..top gig this...!