New Order and Joy Division are of the utmost importance to the art of music- the fact they are not in the Rock Hall of Fame solidifies the fact the institution is a crock.......
The band that are being honoured have to pay themselves for the privilege to be inducted. It's quite steep I believe, we're talking thousands each per member.
+BigDumApe We all have our perfect NO song(s)....Age of Consent isn't one of mine, but we're all different I suppose. Some of my choices might not be in your top 20 NO songs either.
It's funny though, that Bernard wrote most of these songs. And obviously, he could not play the guitar and sing at the same time. So, he wrote the songs to minimize his weakness. And he wrote some of the most iconic songs of all time.
oh what nonsense: he's one of the greatest living rhythm guitarists. you DO know how fond NO were of drugtaking and drink, yeah? and not giving a. come on, now.
Bernard's lyrical improvisations crack me up...'I like fucking in the park.' So sad him and Hooky had such a bust up...I saw them in 85 at the Royal Albert Hall and then 86 in Glastonbury such a great gig, they played 'sister ray' that night, well their version of it. Low Life is one of the best albums ever made in my opinion and Temptation one of the best singles of all time, the live version anyway. Cant believe this is 33 years ago.
@@gfx2943 I was thinking the same - she is really kept hidden in the footage here, mostly just shown in sparse glimpses. Either she told the crew that she didn't want to be filmed or else they really missed out on her.
Very well said. The 1980s were marked by musical exploration and an explosion in creativity, facilitated by more affordable and improved synthesizers and home recording technology. That decade saw the proliferation of many exciting new genres, including house, techno, hip hop, Hi-NRG, post-punk, the Madchester sound, New Romantic, industrial, thrash metal, shoegaze and grunge. Besides the swinging 1960s, no other time period can match the sheer breadth of fresh ideas that were then floating around.
Steve and Gillian driving the band in perfect syncopation (clearly was ♥️) while Bern + Hooky delivering the mood and energy. What a perfect band; truly a new order from the supernova of joy division. 👏👏👏
@@sapainca , yes, that is very much a part of it too. What Hook did, IMO, was allow melody and groove to not falter when Bernie was faffing about. But, yes, Stevie's timing was impeccable.
To be fair, it was just Barney who brought them down. Hook and Morris are great musicians, and Gillian complemented them perfectly. Barney was a good songwriter and did his own thing on guitar (although sometimes live he was terrible), but an awful singer and frontman.
01 Let's Go 0:00 02 The Perfect Kiss 4:15 03 Age Of Consent 13:26 04 Thieves Like Us 18:23 05 State Of The Nation 24:34 06 As It Is When It Was 31:00 07 The Village 34:52 08 Subculture 39:22 09 All Along The Watch Tower (snippet) 10 Atmosphere 44:36 11 Temptation 49:20 12 Blue Monday 56:10
I saw them at salford university in the early 80's and there was something almost devotional about their set - a very special band considering the grandiosity of the bands of the mid-seveties
@Andy Mann anyway it's them all together creating this sublime group....they always had their role, always crucial... the drug/alcohol business was of no interest. The megalomaniac trip between Peter and Bernard does no meaning to me.. We love them all, Andy.... Olivier, Belgium
This gig is a New Order masterpiece. Shame Hooky and Barney could not deal with their egos for ages! Same place Joy Division played in 1980. Also a great setlist and performance.
It is such a shame because those two together really made New Order. Morris and Gilbert are both exceptional musicians too, but neither New Order nor The Light are really the same without each other. Creative tensions make for such good music, but so many great bands fall apart because of them.
@@oswing I can see that, I always thought they didn't out of respect, but apparently they do and always have just not much. Have to admit though, I was still super excited when they opened with Disorder when I saw them at Riotfest in 2016. Biased though obviously it being my first live show seeing my favorite band open with one of the songs that got me into music with a guy I liked all while on almost half a gram of ecstasy. If you look it up it's not an awful rendition, but still not the same, their touring bassist played a simpler version and really Hook is a bassist you just can't emulate.
@@hvhvgitaar of course not, but they played several Joy D. stuff. They went two times to PlanK, I was at the 2nd concert. When Ian disappeared, they presented themselves as New Order ( it took them several months to go for the name NO !
They were so clumsy in Atmosphere!! Bernard reading the lyrics, Gillian confused on the keyboard, Hook impatient... But that was one of their early tribute to Ian's memory at that time.😢😊
Steve holding everything together while Barney is off his face, Hooky is soloing endlessly and Gillian staring blankly not doing much 😂 He was the most important thing about the band for me even with Ian Curtis
Saw them at the Felt Forum NYC the Summer of '85. Great show. Opening band A Certain Ratio got no applause till they announced that their next song was the last one of the set. The crowd erupted with applause. The band got totally pissed and was flipping us off and ranting. The crowd booed them offstage along with various other chants. Hooky complained about how we treated their opening act but put on a great show.
I was there, too! What a great night. The crowd was almost as entertaining as the band - I called it the night of a thousand hairdos. Got to see them 2 more times over the years and still love them like back then. The greatest band ever. They must all have the same musical DNA.
@@YOURTECHFRIEND and he's REALLY nice and sympathetic... I really like him very much as a human being.... not typical or familiar... see Peter Hook, wonderful bassist, but what a poor guy !
What new order was aiming for was a new future, a future promised them by punk. Something beyond fashion and aggression. A utopia of sorts. Lucky for them they all a funny lot. Plus they were all interested in how to go further as a band, how to develop from technology but retaining the spirt of punk the spirit of youth. All the pain and ego and tragedy and fun is in their sound. They’re so fantastic.
Ian knew they werw gr8, he was their biggest cheerleader. he was spot on!!!! and this footage is just beautiful. I grew up w NO and 2 b taken back 2 when I was 23 yo and hear/see this, freakin priceless. .
New Order one of the greatest bands at this time along with the Cure, Talk Talk, Tears for Fears and the Human League. Such an incredible time for music. Let’s Go is a brilliant forgotten track
The bravery and humility to play Atmosphere. The seminal moment on this outstanding video. You just wonder about the emotion of Bernard, Steve, and Peter playing this. Thanks to Peter and The Light, for truly bringing this spectacular music of Joy Division back to life in 2017/18/19 ... and future!
@@_swift1312 Peter Hook and the light came to my city last year but I missed the show :( I found out about the show on you tube! You Are Very Lucky to have seen Peter Hook play with joy division and New Order !!!! :)
It was the New Music analogy of a jam session as you will ever find! I never saw a band workshop songs live as much as New Order did between 1981-1987! It used to be astonishing, I saw them about a dozen times during that time. It would leave your jaw dropped! The first time I saw them do Everything's Gone Green or Sunrise 😮
It’s not New Order without Hooky. His bass was the intrinsic sound of both Joy Division and New Order. After a while Hooky was treated very badly by the rest of the band, especially that creep Bernard. They are now NO ORDER
I had this gig on tape. A really good sound recording aswell. It was the time when all my mates were going through a phase. I would admit it wasn't for the money, because it was very time consuming. I would have pen friends around the UK , We would regularly ring up each other and swop details on the bands we were interested in. Tapes were usually sold for £2/£3. The Music magazine's would put in people's ads. Until about the early 1990s, the laws of copyright/recording/bootlegs were finished. It was so much fun and probably went back to the 1970s of bootlegs.👂
thank you so much for posting this. i am solely responsible for 2,500 of your view count. i burned this to a DVD-R and watch it on my home theater 72" plasma. it sounds INCREDIBLE over a Marantz 800w receiver & Polk Audio towers. The bass is thumping hard. many many nights stoned watching this. i have never heard N.O. sound so good, and I've heard most of their stuff. absolutely on point here! pure gold
Ro Dee im interested in that DVD-R did you enhance any audio or straight from vid? I LOVE THIS SHOW and MANY others on YT i didnt get to experience them in the 80s and theyre my fav band :O
+Ro Dee i posted this as a downloadable DVD-R file in ISO format. it will burn onto a blank DVD-R or DVD+R with any cd/dvd burning program. cheers1 drive.google.com/file/d/0B3Mm6IMtcw1ebC10eUUtcTRva1E
It's awesome to watch them playing at that time. How they tried the most to play live all the different sounds of studio. Perfect kiss is an example. They had a huge effort to make it happen. 😊👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I saw them around the same time. They were so good, so creative, they had so many technical problems, singing was average and even bad at times, so unpolished, but yet everything spontaneously came together. Like magic, like art. I saw them a couple more times later in the 90s, their skills were way better. They made less mistakes. But the magic in the music was gone. Thanks for the video.
Before everyone gets too complicated., from Australia, New Order are legend. Bernard ain't the best singer, but it isn't about that is it! I love you Bernard Sumner!
The best New Order performance I’ve ever seen...and the most well done live “The Perfect Kiss” performance ever. I have never seen this video before, thank you so much for posting.
Was there as well. A terrible location to reach, this nightclub near the canal in Leuven. The band was drinking cocktails at a table when we came in. Typical eye blinding coloured drinks of the eighties. Quando Quango was opening. I remember heading back after the concert with my best friend and having to walk miles in the cold before finding public transport. The concert poster i got from jjrecords is still hanging on my bedroom wall. My memory of the concert is a bit mixed. Found it a bit messy in places and Conan the Barbarian played bass that night.
Let’s Go works so much better as an instrumental for me. It makes for a truly banging, if chaotic, set opener. I wish there was a version of Let’s Go (Nothing For Me) with B’s vocals removed, that’d be my favorite.
Barney does sound exceptionally good in this performance. Hooky rocking that bass as usual. Gill great on the synths and with Ste the drum machine do we need to say more?... I think not.
Imperfections are Perfect and Perfection is just a state of mind and can be so utterly boring. New Order represent imperfection so beautifully. Yes, Bernard's voice live back then was sometimes painful but the painfulness added to the raw emotion which I will take time and time again over autotune technical perfection. At least it makes one with a soul feel something whether that is respect or annoyance.
Grew up listening to them since 1986. I never got to see them in live, living on a rock in the middle of Pacific. Thanks for posting. I got a little taste of being a concert. Thank you New Order for life time of memories.
Electronic music pioneers with one of the bess bass players to ever walk the Earth. I know Hooky doesn't hang with the rest of the band anymore - but he is still active (his work on Aries with the Gorillaz is smooth). New Order were ridiculously influential and still tour today (I have tickets to see them at the Hollywood Bowl with Pet Shop Boys...Pet Shop Men? Pet Shop Senior Day?) If you don't think New Order belong in the rock and roll hall of fame - watch them perform Perfect Kiss in this video. The layering of sound, Hook's hook and then wailing like a madman on the electric drums, Sumner's guitar riffs and then whipping the hell out of the cowbell - Bruce Dickinson would be impressed, along with catchy synth overlays - they got synthesized frogs! Who the hell else has synth frogs! The kicker - this group sprang from the ashes of Joy Division. They most definitely belong in the hall of fame.
The glory days....not only were they awesome back then in the studio, but also on stage. Songs you don't hear anymore can be forgotten for the gems they are (e.g. state of the nation, as it is when it was, subculture), especially live. I'd have gone to great lengths to get a ticket to see them back then and you knew you were in for a treat. These days I don't even bother going to see them live, because it's not the same.
+henry tortoise I know what you mean as I have been seeing them since 1982, but I still find their current show great and find their latest album to be one of their top 3 or 4. I hate that Hooky is no more although his shows leave NO in the dust as to length of sets and the fact he plays everything. Thanks to Hooky I heard EG, Hurt, and Temptation in the same show. I have never heard NO play EGG or Hurt, to name but a few. They should add stuff from Low Life to their current show. They really should play for 2-2.5 hrs.
This is one of the best gigs I've heard them doing. Bernard can always be a bit awkward but he manages to get through this without throwing a tantrum apart from a bit in thieves like us. Its usually like performing his music live annoys him ! . Really Good gig .
Yes, very good, clean, tight and excellent sound mix. By the way, the lyrics to Thieves Like Us are even more haunting if they are seen as alluding to Ian Curtis and his guilt-ridden marriage/affair (something the band and his widow kept under wraps until her book came out in the mid-90s). "It's called LOVE / and ít cuts your heart like a broken knife /It's called love /and it belongs to every one of us /It's called love, love, love..." - Barney's lyrics sound like a defiant attempt to calm the memories of his former bandmate Ian and his demons",
They are the correct synthesis of the best of the late 70’s and 80’s “post-punk”/New wave/electronica/pop music. Done so well it still sounds fresh in 2023!
Yeah, see some recent videos of Hooky&light, they play JD and NO everything. And Hooky's voice is really perfect now. Together with David Potts who has voice very similar to Barney's, it is sometimes hard to recognise who is playing, NO or Hooky&light? Lately I was listening Regret from Hooky's band and the sound, voice and everything was 100% identical like NO in 1993...
Saw them the same year in Wolverhampton (Low Life tour). Still got the drumstick that Barney used on The Perfect Kiss - someone else managed to grab the set list off Gillian's Synth. No pit or walkway for big fat bouncers in those days, though it did mean walking home with crushed ribs and internal bleeding. Worth it, mind.
Oops - just checked. Feb '86 was Wolverhampton. The one I went to in '85 was in Birmingham (Tower Ballroom). That was the infamous night that they played their best ever set to a couple of bemused cleaners after we had all gone home.
I saw New Order in Dublin Jan''86, barely 200 there,place was like an icebox,even Bernard said it,New order played night before,completely different set,magnificent,had to walk home, no bus fare,changed my life for good,and the better. Friendchip.
@Sophie totally agreed. Hooky already has a hard sexy style whit that bass and...that plus with no shirts?! I feel like Daisy Ridley seeing Adam Driver without that short in Star Wars...about Driver...I Don't know if i'm mad but...I think he could be a nice Hooky in some cinebio.
Love this band so much!! I'm also a fan of joy division my first love.i'm 41 I rember seeing what sumner looked like for the first time💕💕💕💕 he will be my crush forever. The music of these two bands changed my world!!
+jackiline Wright What would our lives have been like had JD not formed and went on to be NO? We'd not know any different, but our lives would have been much the poorer without them.
Thieves like us...wow! What a performance. It's called love And it belongs to everyone of us It's called love And it cuts your life like a broken knife, no Love, love, love love love It's called love and it belongs to us It's called love, love, love love love It's called love and it belongs to everyone but us
Thank you chummytummy1971!! 🎉 I so felt the music when I danced to them, but unfortunately I never saw them live. So, again, thank you for this excellent live show! 🎉❤🌈
Hahaha...@22.12 fighting for the limelight. Sumner yells out to turn down Hooks amp!! One of the reasons Bernard doesn't like to play thieves like us being the guitar bass is equal to the vocal in sound. Beginning of the rift. Hook is one hell of a rocker and gave New Order its distinct quality!
They were in rare form for this show from what I can see and hear. They often get defined as this group that used synthesizers and drum machines which they did employ during their run but what makes them so damn great in my opinion is that they can do both. They can jam with real instruments or use the technology and either way they will create great songs. Bernard and the gang played "Let's Go" but performed the instrumental version without the lyrics which are pretty powerful if you know the song.
Saw them dozens of times live in the mid 80's. Across the country and on the continent. They could be breathtakingly sublime one night and absolutely appalling the next, depending on what sort of mood they (meaning mostly Sumner) were in. They acquired a following that included a lot of football hooligans from the early 80's onwards until Acid House chilled everyone out. Which meant that gigs could be bloody dangerous affairs. There was always quite a few following them from Manchester wherever they played, which often meant an atmosphere of impending violence at gigs, especially in obvious places like Leeds and Liverpool, but also in smaller towns as well. Fans of deadly rival clubs meeting each other away from the football but with scores to settle. I've seen many a running battle take place in town and city centres after gigs. There was also a lot of amphetamine sulphate floating around back then which didn't help matters either, especially when mixed with plenty of booze. Still, it was a great time to be a youngster with few responsibilities. I'd regularly get home after seeing them somewhere and still go to work after no or very little sleep, it'd take me a week to get over a night like that now. And they were relatively sane and sober nights out compared to entirely lost weekends once dance music exploded onto the scene a few years later.
So Fantastic 🤩 but, would someone Please let Gillian know She is, basically, leading One of The Best Bands. Ever!!! She is just Too Cool!! And Talented 🤩
He will undoubtedly go down as one of the TOP five singers in ALL of music history!! What a powerful voice !! Dynamic range! That little trademark "whooh" is adorable too...Wow!
New Order and Joy Division are of the utmost importance to the art of music- the fact they are not in the Rock Hall of Fame solidifies the fact the institution is a crock.......
They are in the rrhof but under the category of "spotlight"...which is like an honorable mention.
Bizarre Love Triangle is probably the anthem of a whole decade.
@@burnedbeans4170 Still sounds like a load of Bollocks.
The band that are being honoured have to pay themselves for the privilege to be inducted. It's quite steep I believe, we're talking thousands each per member.
Is this true? Pay for be in the RRHOF ??? Absurd.
Hooky’s bass on Perfect Kiss is just unreal. Probably the best bass riff of all time. Never get tired of watching/listening.
Yeah Ive always Loved Perfect Kiss for Peter Hooks Bass Lines they are AMAZING !!!
Hooky is a beast, just amazing! One of the best bassist ever!
It's absolutely true, never been tired for watching and listening
totally, greatest bass riff ever on earth
Please what's the name of the first song
There has never been a greater marriage of rock and dance.
I agree this was good music before house music hit the scene love joy division always listing too
Truer words were never spoken.
@CausticWindows95 You're forgetting about the Fred & Ethel / Lucy & Ricky Conspiracy....
KING CRIMSON
Big facts.
The frog at 10:00 of The Perfect Kiss is one of the greatest moments in history.
When Bernard rolls up his sleeves and Hooky takes off his shirt it’s gonna be one hell of an evening!
Age of Consent = a perfect song.
Hooky rips the riff!
+BigDumApe We all have our perfect NO song(s)....Age of Consent isn't one of mine, but we're all different I suppose. Some of my choices might not be in your top 20 NO songs either.
Amazing tune!
YES
Couldn’t agree more.🎸🎸
It's funny though, that Bernard wrote most of these songs. And obviously, he could not play the guitar and sing at the same time. So, he wrote the songs to minimize his weakness. And he wrote some of the most iconic songs of all time.
They wrote all these songs together the rest of the band even helping with lyrics and melodies
Today Bernard plays much,much better. He'll never be a guitar hero but it's really not bad !
@@oswing I totally agree. He's a very good guitarist. But he was still learning his craft somewhat back then, especially when he became the vocalist.
oh what nonsense: he's one of the greatest living rhythm guitarists. you DO know how fond NO were of drugtaking and drink, yeah? and not giving a. come on, now.
Singing was a weakness of his in general. They should have let Hooky sing a little bit more.
These days they are so polished and professional sounding, but this has so much more character.
Totally.
nah nothings beats bernards voice here and his cocaine enthusiasm is what energizes the show with hook humping his bass
I love New Order, but these days, they sound (IMHO) like a second-rate NO cover band; they certainly peaked in the 1980s.
Probably the best live New Order video uploaded to RUclips that features the band in their prime.
Masterpiece.
Lowlife days!!!
I Agree New Order at their BEST !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Agreed - this gig is just awesome! :-o
There is quality video from earlier, live in nyc, usa
@@jumofi el día viernes me avisas si
Bernard is the perfect singer for NO
Bernard's lyrical improvisations crack me up...'I like fucking in the park.' So sad him and Hooky had such a bust up...I saw them in 85 at the Royal Albert Hall and then 86 in Glastonbury such a great gig, they played 'sister ray' that night, well their version of it. Low Life is one of the best albums ever made in my opinion and Temptation one of the best singles of all time, the live version anyway. Cant believe this is 33 years ago.
bobby george Haha he’s never been able to remember his own lyrics! Part of his bizarre charm
Gillian is so one of my favourite synth players. For me, she makes New Order. I adore her work!
Why the fuck aren't they showing more of her! She's so cute on top of being an amazing musician
@@gfx2943 I was thinking the same - she is really kept hidden in the footage here, mostly just shown in sparse glimpses. Either she told the crew that she didn't want to be filmed or else they really missed out on her.
I agree she made New Order sound and style
I love how experimental and innovative the 80's were. The era was a huge departure from the "good old boy" rock of the 70's.
freakin tots.
Very well said. The 1980s were marked by musical exploration and an explosion in creativity, facilitated by more affordable and improved synthesizers and home recording technology. That decade saw the proliferation of many exciting new genres, including house, techno, hip hop, Hi-NRG, post-punk, the Madchester sound, New Romantic, industrial, thrash metal, shoegaze and grunge. Besides the swinging 1960s, no other time period can match the sheer breadth of fresh ideas that were then floating around.
@@bobhebel4116 Too right. It was brilliant.
Fantastic version of The Perfect Kiss
Hugo Camara, the very best I have ever seen...
Yep. Beats the one where Sumner is in his undies.
I agree with u Hugo..very near from the tone we heard in the album..
Yep - truly amazing!!
They just nail that last part of The Perfect Kiss in this, so much energy.
Steve and Gillian driving the band in perfect syncopation (clearly was ♥️) while Bern + Hooky delivering the mood and energy. What a perfect band; truly a new order from the supernova of joy division. 👏👏👏
perfect comment and very true
They are a borderline train wreck that somehow is unique, timeless and perfect
You are so right! Train wreck also came into my mind too, but this is one of the reasons I absolutely adore their music and everything about them.
Hook is the one who kept it from falling apart musically.
@@cityslacker6221 also having a human metronome as a drummer
@@sapainca , yes, that is very much a part of it too. What Hook did, IMO, was allow melody and groove to not falter when Bernie was faffing about. But, yes, Stevie's timing was impeccable.
To be fair, it was just Barney who brought them down. Hook and Morris are great musicians, and Gillian complemented them perfectly. Barney was a good songwriter and did his own thing on guitar (although sometimes live he was terrible), but an awful singer and frontman.
01 Let's Go 0:00
02 The Perfect Kiss 4:15
03 Age Of Consent 13:26
04 Thieves Like Us 18:23
05 State Of The Nation 24:34
06 As It Is When It Was 31:00
07 The Village 34:52
08 Subculture 39:22
09 All Along The Watch Tower (snippet)
10 Atmosphere 44:36
11 Temptation 49:20
12 Blue Monday 56:10
Thanks
Thank you!
I was there..great memories. Just so sorry we didn't kiss
I saw them at salford university in the early 80's and there was something almost devotional about their set - a very special band considering the grandiosity of the bands of the mid-seveties
I love how messy and imperfect the whole thing is. I couldn't be better!
It's fun watching Steve and Gillian keeping the other two structurally together...back then Bernie and Pete seemed to like playing together.
before Peter Hook chose for alcohol.
@Andy Mann so both of them! lool !
@Andy Mann anyway it's them all together creating this sublime group....they always had their role, always crucial... the drug/alcohol business was of no interest. The megalomaniac trip between Peter and Bernard does no meaning to me.. We love them all, Andy.... Olivier, Belgium
This gig is a New Order masterpiece. Shame Hooky and Barney could not deal with their egos for ages!
Same place Joy Division played in 1980. Also a great setlist and performance.
It is such a shame because those two together really made New Order. Morris and Gilbert are both exceptional musicians too, but neither New Order nor The Light are really the same without each other. Creative tensions make for such good music, but so many great bands fall apart because of them.
@@jali4000 the only not too good is when they play Joy Division stuff.. Really not convincing. someones missing, and the tree and the snow
@@oswing I can see that, I always thought they didn't out of respect, but apparently they do and always have just not much.
Have to admit though, I was still super excited when they opened with Disorder when I saw them at Riotfest in 2016. Biased though obviously it being my first live show seeing my favorite band open with one of the songs that got me into music with a guy I liked all while on almost half a gram of ecstasy. If you look it up it's not an awful rendition, but still not the same, their touring bassist played a simpler version and really Hook is a bassist you just can't emulate.
Joy Division never played in that club. They played in Antwerp (King Kong) and Brussels (Plan K).
@@hvhvgitaar of course not, but they played several Joy D. stuff. They went two times to PlanK, I was at the 2nd concert. When Ian disappeared, they presented themselves as New Order ( it took them several months to go for the name NO !
Goddamn that Peter Hook can play lead better than any other bassist in rock. "Let's Go" is a master class of that skill.
I'm glad Barney explored the space with that cowbell. Really explored it.
Agree, though I could've used more of it.
They were so clumsy in Atmosphere!! Bernard reading the lyrics, Gillian confused on the keyboard, Hook impatient... But that was one of their early tribute to Ian's memory at that time.😢😊
Perfect in their imperfections..
Steve holding everything together while Barney is off his face, Hooky is soloing endlessly and Gillian staring blankly not doing much 😂 He was the most important thing about the band for me even with Ian Curtis
Ice man Steve and Hooky all the way
he's one of my favorite drummers of all time
Barney is off his face big time but most of his solo guitar are fantastic...
Hook's bass is absolutely crucial to NO's sound too
@@jvcdeadmoney I Totally Agree !!!!!!!!!
Saw them at the Felt Forum NYC the Summer of '85. Great show. Opening band A Certain Ratio got no applause till they announced that their next song was the last one of the set. The crowd erupted with applause. The band got totally pissed and was flipping us off and ranting. The crowd booed them offstage along with various other chants. Hooky complained about how we treated their opening act but put on a great show.
Great story! Thanks for sharing
I was there, too! What a great night. The crowd was almost as entertaining as the band - I called it the night of a thousand hairdos. Got to see them 2 more times over the years and still love them like back then. The greatest band ever. They must all have the same musical DNA.
Steven Morris, my favourite drummer machine !
He is an human electronic drum...
His real name is Steven TR-505 Morris
@@YOURTECHFRIEND and he's REALLY nice and sympathetic... I really like him very much as a human being.... not typical or familiar... see Peter Hook, wonderful bassist, but what a poor guy !
Yep
What new order was aiming for was a new future, a future promised them by punk. Something beyond fashion and aggression. A utopia of sorts. Lucky for them they all a funny lot. Plus they were all interested in how to go further as a band, how to develop from technology but retaining the spirt of punk the spirit of youth. All the pain and ego and tragedy and fun is in their sound. They’re so fantastic.
Great comment! 👏👏👏
all true but past tense. was over long time ago.
Ian knew they werw gr8, he was their biggest cheerleader. he was spot on!!!! and this footage is just beautiful. I grew up w NO and 2 b taken back 2 when I was 23 yo and hear/see this, freakin priceless. .
Well put.
New Order one of the greatest bands at this time along with the Cure, Talk Talk, Tears for Fears and the Human League. Such an incredible time for music. Let’s Go is a brilliant forgotten track
Can't disagree with that
I love that you included Talk Talk among those other top bands.
No Depeche or PSB...?!
What about Black lace ?
The greatest band ever. This is an amazing performance.
Im their biggest fan but fuck me they were really really poor live. I saw them in 1988(ish) at SECC in the weedge. They were fooking woeful
@@kevmurphy5079 I saw them 10 years later at Reading (I'm from Australia & was only 14 in '88) & they were FREAKING AMAZING!!
The bravery and humility to play Atmosphere. The seminal moment on this outstanding video. You just wonder about the emotion of Bernard, Steve, and Peter playing this. Thanks to Peter and The Light, for truly bringing this spectacular music of Joy Division back to life in 2017/18/19 ... and future!
Peter Hook is Killing it on Bass and sounds Awesome !!!!
@Alberto Yeah I think hes the Best bass player in the world too !!!!!!!
You should see him live if you haven't. I've seen him 8 times and hearing New Order and Joy Division played by him live is just amazing
@@_swift1312 Peter Hook and the light came to my city last year but I missed the show :( I found out about the show on you tube! You Are Very Lucky to have seen Peter Hook play with joy division and New Order !!!! :)
@Alberto haha come on man. How would you define that?
I wish he'd turn it down a bit and try listening to the others for once }}
Bernard bringing that joy division guitar playing!
lol wut? He couldn’t possibly be playing more differently than the chord slabs he used to play in JD
Can anyone tell me why I still fall in love with ALL versions of Perfect Kiss ???
You’re not alone.
because that's an incredible catchy song and the bass line intertwined with the synth drives an unmatched euphoria melancholia
Yes, me too, and i miss hookie
It was the New Music analogy of a jam session as you will ever find! I never saw a band workshop songs live as much as New Order did between 1981-1987! It used to be astonishing, I saw them about a dozen times during that time. It would leave your jaw dropped! The first time I saw them do Everything's Gone Green or Sunrise 😮
Because it’s one of the greatest songs ever made.
haha bernard is fucking up so much on lets go. i love it
I can't believe they are playing without Hooky these days. That is just madness. This band is all you need to study to learn how it's done. Brilliant.
Just go see Hooky. He sounds better on his own they they do without him.
It’s not New Order without Hooky. His bass was the intrinsic sound of both Joy Division and New Order. After a while Hooky was treated very badly by the rest of the band, especially that creep Bernard.
They are now NO ORDER
@@joehepworth9984 From what I hear Hooky's no rose, don't blame Bernard. Ridiculous. That kind of purist zero sum crap is BS. Cultist.
I was there....
lucky you ;)
I had this gig on tape.
A really good sound recording aswell.
It was the time when all my mates were going through a phase.
I would admit it wasn't for the money, because it was very time consuming.
I would have pen friends around the UK ,
We would regularly ring up each other and swop details on the bands we were interested in.
Tapes were usually sold for £2/£3.
The Music magazine's would put in people's ads.
Until about the early 1990s, the laws of copyright/recording/bootlegs were finished.
It was so much fun and probably went back to the 1970s of bootlegs.👂
me too and it was fantastic
I LOVE when they do Atmosphere, all together, not just Hooky off on his own. I wish someday they can mend their relationships.
We all hope so.
thank you so much for posting this. i am solely responsible for 2,500 of your view count. i burned this to a DVD-R and watch it on my home theater 72" plasma. it sounds INCREDIBLE over a Marantz 800w receiver & Polk Audio towers. The bass is thumping hard. many many nights stoned watching this. i have never heard N.O. sound so good, and I've heard most of their stuff. absolutely on point here! pure gold
Ro Dee im interested in that DVD-R did you enhance any audio or straight from vid? I LOVE THIS SHOW and MANY others on YT i didnt get to experience them in the 80s and theyre my fav band :O
+Ro Dee Coming to your house
+Ro Dee i posted this as a downloadable DVD-R file in ISO format. it will burn onto a blank DVD-R or DVD+R with any cd/dvd burning program. cheers1 drive.google.com/file/d/0B3Mm6IMtcw1ebC10eUUtcTRva1E
If you give me an invite I'll bring the Hindu Kush.
@@MidnightFlapjacks this is the best thang eva!!!! THANKU
It's awesome to watch them playing at that time. How they tried the most to play live all the different sounds of studio. Perfect kiss is an example. They had a huge effort to make it happen. 😊👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
I saw them around the same time. They were so good, so creative, they had so many technical problems, singing was average and even bad at times, so unpolished, but yet everything spontaneously came together. Like magic, like art. I saw them a couple more times later in the 90s, their skills were way better. They made less mistakes. But the magic in the music was gone. Thanks for the video.
Same here. NYC 1985 was the first time. They were a beautiful shambles.
Before everyone gets too complicated., from Australia, New Order are legend. Bernard ain't the best singer, but it isn't about that is it! I love you Bernard Sumner!
Best The Perfect Kiss version ever!
Filipe Barros, exatamente!!!!!
The best New Order performance I’ve ever seen...and the most well done live “The Perfect Kiss” performance ever. I have never seen this video before, thank you so much for posting.
Saw them in 1984, 1985, 1989 - the golden era of Low Life, Brotherhood and Technique.
Soooo lucky!
Every time Bernard messes up I laugh hysterically. I LOVE IT!!!
Was there as well. A terrible location to reach, this nightclub near the canal in Leuven. The band was drinking cocktails at a table when we came in. Typical eye blinding coloured drinks of the eighties. Quando Quango was opening. I remember heading back after the concert with my best friend and having to walk miles in the cold before finding public transport. The concert poster i got from jjrecords is still hanging on my bedroom wall. My memory of the concert is a bit mixed. Found it a bit messy in places and Conan the Barbarian played bass that night.
tom t Aww. Still love Love Tempo by Quando Quango
Let’s Go works so much better as an instrumental for me. It makes for a truly banging, if chaotic, set opener. I wish there was a version of Let’s Go (Nothing For Me) with B’s vocals removed, that’d be my favorite.
Barney does sound exceptionally good in this performance. Hooky rocking that bass as usual. Gill great on the synths and with Ste the drum machine do we need to say more?...
I think not.
Imperfections are Perfect and Perfection is just a state of mind and can be so utterly boring. New Order represent imperfection so beautifully. Yes, Bernard's voice live back then was sometimes painful but the painfulness added to the raw emotion which I will take time and time again over autotune technical perfection. At least it makes one with a soul feel something whether that is respect or annoyance.
Grew up listening to them since 1986. I never got to see them in live, living on a rock in the middle of Pacific. Thanks for posting. I got a little taste of being a concert. Thank you New Order for life time of memories.
thieves like us , what a song!! Hooky on fire! take me back to 85'
Electronic music pioneers with one of the bess bass players to ever walk the Earth. I know Hooky doesn't hang with the rest of the band anymore - but he is still active (his work on Aries with the Gorillaz is smooth). New Order were ridiculously influential and still tour today (I have tickets to see them at the Hollywood Bowl with Pet Shop Boys...Pet Shop Men? Pet Shop Senior Day?) If you don't think New Order belong in the rock and roll hall of fame - watch them perform Perfect Kiss in this video. The layering of sound, Hook's hook and then wailing like a madman on the electric drums, Sumner's guitar riffs and then whipping the hell out of the cowbell - Bruce Dickinson would be impressed, along with catchy synth overlays - they got synthesized frogs! Who the hell else has synth frogs! The kicker - this group sprang from the ashes of Joy Division. They most definitely belong in the hall of fame.
Loved Barney absolutely going to town on that cowbell at the end of the Perfect Kiss.
The answer is always “more cowbells” !
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THE FIRST TRACK JUST GOT BETTER ........AND BETTER ......HOOKY CONSISTANT AS USUAL !!!
The glory days....not only were they awesome back then in the studio, but also on stage. Songs you don't hear anymore can be forgotten for the gems they are (e.g. state of the nation, as it is when it was, subculture), especially live. I'd have gone to great lengths to get a ticket to see them back then and you knew you were in for a treat. These days I don't even bother going to see them live, because it's not the same.
+henry tortoise I know what you mean as I have been seeing them since 1982, but I still find their current show great and find their latest album to be one of their top 3 or 4. I hate that Hooky is no more although his shows leave NO in the dust as to length of sets and the fact he plays everything. Thanks to Hooky I heard EG, Hurt, and Temptation in the same show. I have never heard NO play EGG or Hurt, to name but a few. They should add stuff from Low Life to their current show. They really should play for 2-2.5 hrs.
The magic is long gone
Perfection... I loved to dance to New Order in the 80's... Ballingers, Ontario, Canada
This is one of the best gigs I've heard them doing. Bernard can always be a bit awkward but he manages to get through this without throwing a tantrum apart from a bit in thieves like us. Its usually like performing his music live annoys him ! . Really Good gig .
Agreed, Barney does seem to be a bit of an, shall we say, irritant. But in the nicest way
Yes, very good, clean, tight and excellent sound mix. By the way, the lyrics to Thieves Like Us are even more haunting if they are seen as alluding to Ian Curtis and his guilt-ridden marriage/affair (something the band and his widow kept under wraps until her book came out in the mid-90s). "It's called LOVE / and ít cuts your heart like a broken knife /It's called love /and it belongs to every one of us /It's called love, love, love..." - Barney's lyrics sound like a defiant attempt to calm the memories of his former bandmate Ian and his demons",
1st off, Ponytails r still IN!!!!!!!!! 2nd, What a sic recording!! TYSM cannot believe 25yo aud/vid is this high Qual. VWD
New order à la meilleure époque c’est proprement génial ! Let’s go donne le ton de ce concert fabuleux, la classe ultime !
NOBody pumps out this music ,Pow, im from the 80s unfknbelielable!!! Nobody pumps out like New Order!!!!!
They are the correct synthesis of the best of the late 70’s and 80’s “post-punk”/New wave/electronica/pop music. Done so well it still sounds fresh in 2023!
What I like inPeter Hook and the Light gigs is that the guitarrist never errors.
Personally, what I think makes new order great is that they where never really perfect
But they just play Joy Division, nothing by New Order right?
@@jasonlieberman4606 they play both
That guy can also sing 😉 I still love Bernard though, so I guess it doesn't matter in the end.
Yeah, see some recent videos of Hooky&light, they play JD and NO everything. And Hooky's voice is really perfect now. Together with David Potts who has voice very similar to Barney's, it is sometimes hard to recognise who is playing, NO or Hooky&light? Lately I was listening Regret from Hooky's band and the sound, voice and everything was 100% identical like NO in 1993...
que de bons souvenirs.... ceux qui sont nés dans les années 70 se delectent de ces souvenirs vraiment bons ...
Barney always looks like he's trying to fix the guitar as much as play it.
"I like f*cking in the park...!" Bad bad boy Barney..!
He somehow managed to say walking and fucking at the same time and I don't know how he did it.
Hersey has been detected
dangerous with the Corona
His name is Bernard.
Saw them the same year in Wolverhampton (Low Life tour). Still got the drumstick that Barney used on The Perfect Kiss - someone else managed to grab the set list off Gillian's Synth. No pit or walkway for big fat bouncers in those days, though it did mean walking home with crushed ribs and internal bleeding. Worth it, mind.
Oops - just checked. Feb '86 was Wolverhampton. The one I went to in '85 was in Birmingham (Tower Ballroom). That was the infamous night that they played their best ever set to a couple of bemused cleaners after we had all gone home.
onenarrowdoor Awesome stories. Thanks for sharing :)
I saw New Order in Dublin Jan''86, barely 200 there,place was like an icebox,even Bernard said it,New order played night before,completely different set,magnificent,had to walk home, no bus fare,changed my life for good,and the better.
Friendchip.
Michael Whelan i have a similar story but it was this year at the greek in LA (unfortunately i was not alive in 86 :( - butvery interesting story !)
+Michael Whelan i was at that gig too.. SFX??
I ❤️ how Hooky starts out wearing layers of clothing and by the end sweating with only half his clothes on! The man is on 🔥😍
His playing is down right sexy! I'm blushing from just typing that, haha.
@Sophie totally agreed. Hooky already has a hard sexy style whit that bass and...that plus with no shirts?! I feel like Daisy Ridley seeing Adam Driver without that short in Star Wars...about Driver...I Don't know if i'm mad but...I think he could be a nice Hooky in some cinebio.
@moneyall ...Finally I saw a comment about THAT happening: Hooky shirtless doing his sexual style whit that bass. What a Vision! 👏👏👏👏👏
that's Hooky he leaves everything on stage massively brilliant performer!
Love this band so much!! I'm also a fan of joy division my first love.i'm 41 I rember seeing what sumner looked like for the first time💕💕💕💕 he will be my crush forever. The music of these two bands changed my world!!
+jackiline Wright What would our lives have been like had JD not formed and went on to be NO? We'd not know any different, but our lives would have been much the poorer without them.
Thieves like us...wow! What a performance.
It's called love
And it belongs to everyone of us
It's called love
And it cuts your life like a broken knife, no
Love, love, love love love
It's called love and it belongs to us
It's called love, love, love love love
It's called love and it belongs to everyone but us
El mejor performance en vivo de New Order que he escuchado en toda mi vida. Gracias por compartirlo!
Thank you chummytummy1971!! 🎉
I so felt the music when I danced to them, but unfortunately I never saw them live.
So, again, thank you for this excellent live show! 🎉❤🌈
Glad you like it :)
Well balanced, usually all I can hear is Hooky 😁
seen them like 25 times. Was back stage with Bernard, Gillian, and Peter. Played great music. All they wanted to do. Missed Ian curtis very much
Wow! That Was Brilliant!!!! ManyThanx From Costa Mesa Ca!!!!
Thanks for listening.
I realize that I'm supposed to write words here but yet I find myself speechless...
WAT A CONCERT .......GIVE ME A TIME MACHINE !!
New Order 1985. Doesn't get better than that.
BEAUTIFUL. Thanks very much for posting this slice o' heaven.
never saw this one before, thank you so much for uploading. As a longtime NO fan this is NO at their peak imo.
This is INCREDIBLE!!! Love it! Can't get enough of it. They are SO great, my faves! Thanks for posting this!
Hahaha...@22.12 fighting for the limelight. Sumner yells out to turn down Hooks amp!! One of the reasons Bernard doesn't like to play thieves like us being the guitar bass is equal to the vocal in sound. Beginning of the rift. Hook is one hell of a rocker and gave New Order its distinct quality!
Fookin' hilarious! No way you can silence the mighty Hooky, Bernie! 💯🏆🎇
Temptation and Blue Monday are the two greatest dance songs ever
Never knew they played ES-335 guitars and tons of synths very cool
They were in rare form for this show from what I can see and hear. They often get defined as this group that used synthesizers and drum machines which they did employ during their run but what makes them so damn great in my opinion is that they can do both. They can jam with real instruments or use the technology and either way they will create great songs. Bernard and the gang played "Let's Go" but performed the instrumental version without the lyrics which are pretty powerful if you know the song.
Great band, great recording, it just sucks with all the cuts in the end
I caught them in Rotterdam Arena on that tour december 15th.
Fantastic sound and performance!
Saw them dozens of times live in the mid 80's. Across the country and on the continent. They could be breathtakingly sublime one night and absolutely appalling the next, depending on what sort of mood they (meaning mostly Sumner) were in.
They acquired a following that included a lot of football hooligans from the early 80's onwards until Acid House chilled everyone out. Which meant that gigs could be bloody dangerous affairs. There was always quite a few following them from Manchester wherever they played, which often meant an atmosphere of impending violence at gigs, especially in obvious places like Leeds and Liverpool, but also in smaller towns as well. Fans of deadly rival clubs meeting each other away from the football but with scores to settle. I've seen many a running battle take place in town and city centres after gigs. There was also a lot of amphetamine sulphate floating around back then which didn't help matters either, especially when mixed with plenty of booze. Still, it was a great time to be a youngster with few responsibilities. I'd regularly get home after seeing them somewhere and still go to work after no or very little sleep, it'd take me a week to get over a night like that now. And they were relatively sane and sober nights out compared to entirely lost weekends once dance music exploded onto the scene a few years later.
Dreams Never End 😉
When ecstasy and rave killed football hooliganism
One of my fav bands New Order. Watching again to remind of how amazing they truly were and are.
Great gig. Lucky people to be there, remember it in your heart and brain. It's one to tell the grandchildren of.........It's Called Love!
So Fantastic 🤩 but, would someone Please let Gillian know She is, basically, leading One of The Best Bands. Ever!!! She is just Too Cool!! And Talented 🤩
Just found on this. FUCHook! Thank you for and can’t wait to share. Going on 40 years for me w NE, and the “oldies” keep getting better!
He will undoubtedly go down as one of the TOP five singers in ALL of music history!! What a powerful voice !! Dynamic range! That little trademark "whooh" is adorable too...Wow!
You're joking of course. He's great for New Order his voice is ass
Haha “WOOOOO” he’d give wrestling legend Ric Flair a run for his money
'Let's go' is live even better than the studio version, a rare experience for 80ies music IMHO.
Yup, bum notes and all. I love it too.
Great gig and setlist. Went to see Hooky (Low Life / Brotherhood Live) two years ago and they played most of these songs fortunately.
They should be in the Rock and Roll Hall. Another Snub, so much ahead of their time, their much is awesome!!!!
Totally.
I was there ... thanks for posting that, great souvenir...