I wish there were laws to protect me when I was a kid from my psycho abusive mother. I’m happy this girl at least got some form of justice, but it’s disgusting that they’re still allowing the mother to have contact. She shouldn’t be allowed any contact with minors for years.
She stopped being a mother and even a responsible adult the minute she decided to cyberbully her daughter and her classmates, then framed an innocent teenager in the process just to cover herself up. That's just pathetic
@@Town_Country96 exactly... the original comment pretty much boils down to “in summary; the actions being discussed, and their impact, is bad. this woman is bad because of the things she did that are being discussed in this video. bad”
No, that’s just the part that escalated to the point of punishment. I’m sure she’s gotten away with worse because the government truly doesn’t GAF about protecting kids from abusive parents.
Something that rarely gets talked about, is how many parents genuinely hate their own children. There are a lot of people who have kids that never wanted them in the first place. So, instead of using systemic tools like adoption, they choose to torture and hurt the kids as a catharsis for their hatred.
True. And I'm honestly not sure which ones are worse, the ones who consciously hate and bully their children, or the ones who don't consciously realize exactly how much they hate their children but do anyway because they're massive narcissists and can never actually love anyone. At least in the former case, it's obvious to the kid, and they can mount their own defense mechanisms; with the kind of insidious abuse seen in the latter cases, the kid usually won't come to terms with the fact until later in life, when they've already had these horribly fucked up behavior patterns irreversibly imprinted onto them. No child should ever be exposed to either kind of parent, though. To that point, if anyone is interested in losing a bit more faith in humanity, just go browse the r/raisedbynarcissists subreddit 😞
@@romantic_hippie I'm sorry that you had to go through that. It was my father too. Part of you is obviously glad that they had you because otherwise you wouldn't exist, while the other part is just like, why the fuck did you have kids if you can't love them 🤷🏼♂️
@@romantic_hippie I'm sorry for that dude, no kid should have to deal with that kind of shit. For me, it was my mom. She blamed me for her failed life and would hurt me however she could think of; physically, mentally, and emotionally.
Looks more like an excuse if you ask me, I think her real intends are more likely due the fact her daughter was seeing a boy. There are crazy parents who get batsh*t insane all because their offspring are dating someone, as if it was a capital crime...
@@TP-op9bb exactly, creating a problem so that she can use it to control and isolate her daughter - getting the police involves makes perfect sense in that regard, she's using it to earn attention as the 'brave mom standing up for and protecting her bullied daughter'
Yea I was kind of thinking she was trying to create a scenario where she was trying to be viewed as a source of security by her daughter but in a weird and manipulative way. Very sad.
No abuse like psychological abuse. This mother has permanently damaged the trust between her and her daughter. Like this is going to be one of things that haunts the family for the rest of their lives. The daughter might be walking away from this with a entire new tier of trust issues.
You're right, however there really shouldn't be any level of trust between this woman and her daughter. The daughter should abandon this woman and go no contact for life.
It's ridiculous to see an adult acting like the high school bully (that she most likely was when she was in school). People like her NEVER grow up, and everyone is their potential victim, even family. She's a true sociopathic narcissist.
@@brezzychill2424 I know this is a rare case, but when we got a PE 'teacher' that started bullying certain kids, the class would turn around and give back what they got. The principal and the District director got involved and laughed about it when we told the whole story. They didn't fire him, but told him that if he couldn't handle having the same shit platter served to him as he was giving to us, he could leave. Honestly I wish that was the case in most schools, feels like we were being trained for creating Unions against those that abuse power.
This is 100% a mother that "secretly" hates and resents her own child. Healthiest thing for her daughter to do would be to disown her mother, tbh. Maybe get a restraining order because this woman is clearly crazy.
The last time I heard about something like this, an adult ended up bullying a teenager into suicide online. This shit deserves attempted murder charges at this point.
This reminds me of the case where the woman murdered her husband and used her kids just to get sympathy points from others. Even wrote a kids book on how to handle grief. "Oh, my poor kids, let me take care of you. Look at me everyone, I'm such a good mother."
@@gamerhero9559she wanted to buy and sell a new house and he wanted to stop doing the flipping and work on being a family and through her abusive issues. So she killed him to flip a house, essentially.
She's not sorry for hurting her daughter, her daughter's partner, and everyone else involved... she's sorry that she got herself caught. She was so stupid and so narcissistic to think she wouldn't eventually get caught. It's like a Lifetime movie.
Sadly and unfortunately, this is not uncommon. my mother did this to my older sister on facebook and I have a friend whose father is doing this to them and their siblings at this very moment on twitter. The police rarely get involved, though, I wish they did more often. They're so many whys and whats, and even knowing the why doesn't help us understand. I'm glad this woman is getting jail time.
@@Heretowatchvideos123 exactly!!! been almost two years at this point since we last spoke to her and it was constantly talking to/arguing with a brick wall. No responses and just angry faces, or angry face and justifications for the behavior and the acts. the EPITOME of gaslighting. My only regret is that we tried for so long to understand, to work it out, and didn't cut her out sooner. I hope the girl mentioned in this video doesn't even bother with her mother. She'll be better for it.
@@Heretowatchvideos123 Sometimes Parents will bully their own kids anonymously because they’re too big of fucking cowards to confront their children about things they think are “issues.” Like for example, I never felt the need to shave my legs. But the repeated comments from my mom about how Gross other people will think I am eventually made me develop self consciousness about the appearance of my legs. Which already, not great, yknow! But a parent who’s too much of a pussy to face their own kid might bully them anonymously over a habit they want the kid to change and pretend like it’s not their fault.
Agreed. The only thing now is that I have relatives (like my grandmother and uncle) who feel bad for my mom so they always ask me to talk to her again. It triggers my cPTSD flashbacks, so I obv don't do it, but I don't blame them for telling me to. They just want to feel like they're doing their part and clear their own consciences over it. (They aren't really pressuring me, just a quick mention on rare occasion. Typically only after they spoke to her recently and she guilt tripped them into telling me.) @@LC-zp3qi
This is worse on every level for that poor daughter. Not only was she mentally scarred by all the bullying (some that may never go away after experiencing it), but she also lost a mother along with it. The person that was supposed to help you out and be your comfort, ended up being your biggest bully 😒🤦🏿
There are some awful parents put there…you don’t need to pass or test or get license to be a parent. And I don’t know your situation, but for many bad parents I have encountered….I wouldn’t call it hate, but variety of other things….such as jealousy (even just that you are younger), or anger at other things, and finding a kid a way to take out that anger at the world, or that they feel they are stretched too far by adult life, which can be tough, etc. Doesn’t make it better or justify it….but I would say it generally isn’t just “hate” of the child, just some don’t have the adult bandwidth and maturity to be decent parents.
As a Michigander, we do not claim her and we hereby banish her from The Great Lakes State for the rest of her miserable life. I hope her daughter has support from other family members and her friends. There are better ways of relieving boredom and getting attention that don't involve traumatizing minors. I'm glad she self snitched and got herself locked up. It's what she deserves.
She’ll be in Michigan for a long time. The rest of don’t want her either lol. She’ll probably end up on parole and not being allowed to leave the state without permission.
As a young parent who’s into tech shit, I dare a mom to be bold enough to do this to my kid. I’ll out her and her entire bloodline in a coffezilla type assembly
As a student at the university in that town, it doesn’t really surprise me to see this situation coming out. There’s a lot of bored people of questionable mental stability in the area.
All of this was a manipulation tactic by the mom, who is a clear narcissist. She bullied her daughter so the girl would be vulnerable and come to her mother for help. As a way to say, I’m always here for you and you can never leave me.
Jesus I hope the daughter can recover from this, I can’t imagine why any mother would put their own child through hell like that, especially when they start cyber bullying, also I don’t think the daughter would want to see her mother anymore after the trauma she did to her daughter, it’s for the best if she cut her from her life and try to move forward.
My parents always used to tell me that the way you act and the things you do when you think no one is watching, reveals who you really are. I now see this demonstrated daily when people think the are anonymous, especially online.
As someone currently being bullied by mom as a 34 year old man. I can say some people just feel like they can get away with it because it’s their kid. All is justified even if their actions ultimately hurting them.
Please hang in there and protect yourself. There are many of us going through the same and there's some great communities online that can offer support, like r/raisedbynarcissists. The channels Dr Ramani & Surviving Narcissism (Dr Les Carter) are really informative, helpful, and have large communities as well. Please be careful because as my narc mother aged, she's tried switching the narrative and claiming that I'm the abuser, claiming "elder abuse" which is a very serious offense. I've heard others going through the same, as the abuse often gets worse as they age.
I have an aunt that suffers from an extreme form of BPD. This sounds like something she would have done to my cousin. She harassed every member of our family so bad most have restraining orders and the rest just won't talk to her. A literal witch.
"A literal witch" That's certainly one way go describe a person with a debilitating mental health disorder. Ableism I believe is the new "in" term for it. Funny how mental illness only ever seems to matter when it's wogs doing bad things.
Maybe the mom thought it would bring her daughter closer to her ( the daughter coming to her for help). It's twisted no matter what the " reasoning" behind her actions. SMH
Possibly. I'm middling sort of okayish at guessing people's motivations from dealing with an out of control dumpster fire family but this lady is beyond me. Your theory is good as any Edit she sent messages to the boyfriend as well. Maybe she felt threatened by that relationship. I've been a parent's emotional support blankie and they lost their crap every time i became friends with someone
@@catsncrows It is and now she keeps sending me baby pictures and posts about how moms will always do things for their children out of selfless love 😒 The guilt trip is real
@@GlitterC8k ugh, yes. I finally kicked my sister to the curb because i realized a lot of things i accepted were really out of control. When i cut contact she really pulled out all the stops. She tried every trick in the book
I saw this story a while ago and I always thought why? The mom can hate the daughter, neglect her and stuff but no this is a whole level of evil. She got burner phones,vpns, covered her tracks and ACTIVELY SAT DOWN WITH A LEVEL HEAD TO BULLY HER OWN DAUGHTER AND TRIED TO PIN ON SOME RANDOM GUY. Why? I feel so sorry for the daughter. The most trustworthy group of people should be your parents, but her own parent was her worst enemy. Thank god the mom was caught and left the daughter's life early otherwise I don't know what would've happened if this went on
My daughters step mom kinda did the same thing as in tell the police on herself pretty much. She went to police lying about someone abusing someone else and that investigation turned into a child abuse investigation against her and her husband, my ex. They both ended up with child abuse charges and now I have full custody. People are strange.
I feel there's a clear reason. Not only did she want to manipulate her daughter into relying on her more, she also wanted to be seen as a hero. Just imagine the headlines of the "brave upstanding mother" that saved her daughter from bullies. I also feel they should look into the parents of the kid she tried to frame. See if the mother disliked them over stupid shit from the past
Theory: The mother might have been doing this to try to get her daughter to off herself, so the she (the mother) could get sympathy and possibly press attention. She could've become a huge face in anti-bullying, even started a charity, if her daughter had passed.
The funny thing is, my bio mother and step father tried to do exactly this to me. But on the flipside they tried to frame me as their abuser, so when I would have offed myself, they def would have taken the sympathy, making everyone believed they tried their hardest to help me, all the while they were the ones who pulled the trigger lmao. Glad this girl got justice!!
I think that's been my mother's goal. The bully who wants to act like a victim so they can get support and attention. I was ignored asking for help as a teen, being told I was over-reacting, then later how I needed help, but they wouldn't get me help until I tried to take my life. Even after that and multiple diagnosis including depression, their treatment of me never changed except to get worse. My narc mother wouldn't let me talk to family, and I recently found out why. It's because she's telling them that I'm abusive to her! Narcissists often go through a cycle of Bully, Savior, Victim, and it absolutely has to do with getting attention and sympathy. Ironic since they have zero sympathy for others.
This lady is a psychopath. If she didn’t get caught she would have pushed harder to learn what else she could get away with. Who knows what would have happened.
It’s giving “I was bullied and I’m acting out my revenge vicariously through my daughter and her friends while simultaneously abusing my adult authority and ability to manipulate such a situation” A long one but GOT DAMN LADY
I just saw a community post about how someone grew up without a dad because he was a fighter pilot and had to eject, but if he did his plane would crash into a school. So he crashed it elsewhere, traded his life for all those kids lives. This mom is like the polar opposite of that.
Less than a minute in and it makes me think of these 'Munchhausen by proxy' cases you hear about. I've heard of nurses who intentionally trigger life-threatening emergencies in their patients so they can 'heroically' attempt to 'save' them. It's the epitome of 'some of you may die, but that's a risk I'm willing to take'. It's messed up.
If you have to do this to feel something, to get the attention of your child, to feel more like a mom…. Then you need therapy and something is wrong with you as a person.
Sick. The number of narcissist mothers out there is disturbing, they are particularly vicious to their daughters. Hope the daughter and the other victims can recover and that they stay away from this vile woman.
I feel like there was ONE other case of a mother cyber bullying her own daughter but quite frankly this isn’t the first time a mother cyber bullied a teen. Never forget the time a mother stepped in to a fight her daughter had with a former friend (if I remember right they used to be friends) and cyber bullied the girl so bad she end gamed herself. She has been on a few talk shows trying to downplay what she did but no one lets her get away with it. I wish I could remember her name because she was AWFUL.
She got the police involved because she’s so self-centered that she thought it wouldn’t be taken that seriously (or that they didn’t have the means of figuring out who it was), and then she could be the martyr when the cops “weren’t doing anything.’
a lot of older people take their issues out on younger people because they are jealous that they are no longer young and no longer get that “young experience” of highschool and they’re 20s again and this women is definitely one of them
This kinda reminds me of the mom whose daughter didnt make the hs cheer squad, so she made deep fake prons of all the other girls and leaked them to the school.
What mother would inflict this kind of mental pain on their own daughter? what a sick SICK woman!!! deserves prison for life. I really hope her daughter is somewhere safe and actually cared for :(
Why would she report herself like that!? She thought cause she used fake names phone numbers she thought it wouldn't route back to her? I'm so sorry for that daughter having to go through something like that, that woman must have some type of hate towards kids and its crazy.
So, it reminds me of when killers will help with the search or try to assist the police. Also reminds me a bit of Munchhausen‘s (?) because sometimes the parents will make their children sick on purpose and then pretend to help them. The fact she did it to her own daughter 🫠 ugh. It’s like she wants to be a bully and also the hero. Some people really shouldn’t be parents. I hope the daughter gets therapy and love and support from her other family and friends.
It makes me think the target she was trying to blame was why she did this. Like she got mad at a kid and then set up something to get him in trouble. Without having any care for her daughter or the boyfriend. The whole thing is sickening.
She definitely just wanted to play hero and have people come to her for help and support, she literally created a problem so she could solve it and look like some kind of savior
This has happened a few times IIRC, I remember this happening when I was a kid. Some people are just a liability and burden on others throughout their life unfortunately.
The best way she could have broken her daughter and boyfriend up would be to start getting friendly with his parents, nothing like a dinner date with your kids and the boyfriend's/girlfriend's parents to quickly scare the kids apart...😂
I just finished a book where the main character is a psychopath who’s favorite hobby is gaining strangers’ trust online, and then coaxing them into saying some shit to get them cancelled. Didn’t think I’d hear someone do something similar.
She's not remorseful. If she was she wouldn't have done that to children/teens even worse her OWN child and try to pin it on another child. Straight up took the line "sometimes a child's first bully is their teacher" to a whole other level. Ngl she shouldn't even have access to her child anymore at that point. She proved to be the worst parent possible.
This kinda reminds me of that one lady who cyber-bullied a family just because she had the same name as the daughter who un-alived herself. The lady convinced herself that daughter was murdered and the lady got called out on Dr.Phil
As someone with a jealous mother, this fits the profile of the lengths they will go to in order to remind their kid that their worth less then the dirt they walk on. This women must be truly unhappy in her life to even contemplate such behavior.
I had a jealous psychopath mom who tried to intentionally f up all of my friendships (and psychologically terrorize my friends' moms) and would on the regular say shit like "Your mother is your only true friend". I could see her doing things like this if it had been that time. She would 100% try to ruin my life online and IRL. She really wanted to drive me to hurt myself and would actually suggest this from time to time. To this day, I don't tell her anything about my life in order to protect myself. I hope her daughter finds healing. That is some CPTSD shit. I don't think that is a fixable relationship. She may have to go NC with her mom someday. Something is broken, and it is NOT on the daughter to fix that. I wanted to believe that if I were good enough, or pretty enough, or got good enough grades and tried to meet her standards, she'd treat me better. Spoiler alert, she didn't. If there is one consolation, at least she didn't say "It's just a prank, you're too sensitive!" -- which is something akin to what I'd hear from my mom when she'd torture my stuffed animals when I was little, making me cry. Like I said, she was a sick, sick woman, and that was not the only way she was abusive. It would not surprise me if this mother's sickness manifested in other ways. I am glad she is at least being punished and that the world knows what she did.
This reminds me of the South Park episode where Kyle's dad was trolling the parents by photoshopping dongs in their mouth on the school social media site and blamed it on Ike 😂
anyone who thinks it's okay needs to experience what it's like getting physically assaulted and at a couple of points sexually attacked by your bullies.
I can’t fathom why a mother would do this in this fashion. I know why mothers would mentally abuse their young if they are trying to force their kids into doing what they couldn’t or in jealousy of their kin success but just to randomly cyber bully her daughter and not have a reason to do so? And CONTINUE to do it despite seeing the trouble despite god know what? My only guess is that she was a cyber bully in the past and relapsed or some shit
I think it's good for rich spoiled kids to have some adversity in their lives to develop character and strength, but this is going way too far. I don't understand if she was trying to help, or if she was actually bullying her own daughter and her friends because she is insecure and got a kick out of it. My parents did a decent job by supporting me, letting me make my own decisions and letting me carve my own path. It's important for parents to give their kids the freedom to do this while protecting them from outside harmful influences in their lives.
Adversity is fine and all, that's just life. This one, on the other hand, is a self-made problem that has very little payoff for the amount of effort put in.
Lol this is the most funniest thing I've heard of. It sounds like something straight out of a novel 😅 But the answer to your question Atozy, she did it too her daughter so she wouldn't look suspicious. Think about it, if she was the only one from her class who never received these threats and harassment, people would have found some suspicion between her and her mother. Also calling the police was to make them believe she was that worried 😂😂😂
I feel so bad for her child the most, imagine being the child to the parent who bullied multiple children, I doubt that would go well knowing how children are
I genuinely couldnt understand what would even begin to drive a mother to do something like this, but then the news casters said who the other victim was. This mother clearly was trying to manipulate her daughter to end her relationship. One of the most disgusting things about it is how cowardly the manipulation was. She clearly didnt want to voice her distaste openly so she created a fake identity to do it while she got to play the loving mother. I hope for her daughters own sake she has the strength to never allow her mother back into her life. She is deeply manipulative and abusive and I would never risk a second chance on someone like that.
without diagnosing anyone obvs, this behavior reminds me of the "Factitious disorder imposed on another" (formerly munchhausen-by-proxy) phenomenon. causing others distress/harm so you can cast yourself as the savior/helper and gain attention/social clout from that.
The mom might have a hero complex where she sets up dangerous situations so that she can swoop in and be the supportive hero. Definitely mental illness.
This sounds like some origin to a hero story where the parent is the villain but the kid doesn't know until the parent became to comfortable and feel like they can't be touched
Some parents are jealous of their children for various reasons. I ended up looking like a tiny clone of my birthmother and for her it was a constant reminder of her aging so yea some adults are just rank and hate their kids
This woman will 100% ask herself in 10 years "Why isn't my child talking to me" as if she did nothing wrong
Give her a few years, she'll be running an MLM cult about the importance of forgiveness.
This.
*talking
I wish there were laws to protect me when I was a kid from my psycho abusive mother. I’m happy this girl at least got some form of justice, but it’s disgusting that they’re still allowing the mother to have contact. She shouldn’t be allowed any contact with minors for years.
@@idreadFell365 Didn't notice that, fixed it now, cheers
She stopped being a mother and even a responsible adult the minute she decided to cyberbully her daughter and her classmates, then framed an innocent teenager in the process just to cover herself up. That's just pathetic
I’m pretty sure she stopped being a mother way before all of this.
@@Town_Country96 exactly... the original comment pretty much boils down to “in summary; the actions being discussed, and their impact, is bad. this woman is bad because of the things she did that are being discussed in this video. bad”
No, that’s just the part that escalated to the point of punishment. I’m sure she’s gotten away with worse because the government truly doesn’t GAF about protecting kids from abusive parents.
Bullying kids is the lowest of the tier, hope female prisoners treat women who go to prison for targeting children like male counterpart
Eh she was just trying to use the DENNIS system. At least us bad dad's just skip straight to separate entirely
Something that rarely gets talked about, is how many parents genuinely hate their own children. There are a lot of people who have kids that never wanted them in the first place. So, instead of using systemic tools like adoption, they choose to torture and hurt the kids as a catharsis for their hatred.
Just watch in a decade all the states that banned abortion will have horrible stories even worse than this.
True. And I'm honestly not sure which ones are worse, the ones who consciously hate and bully their children, or the ones who don't consciously realize exactly how much they hate their children but do anyway because they're massive narcissists and can never actually love anyone. At least in the former case, it's obvious to the kid, and they can mount their own defense mechanisms; with the kind of insidious abuse seen in the latter cases, the kid usually won't come to terms with the fact until later in life, when they've already had these horribly fucked up behavior patterns irreversibly imprinted onto them. No child should ever be exposed to either kind of parent, though. To that point, if anyone is interested in losing a bit more faith in humanity, just go browse the r/raisedbynarcissists subreddit 😞
My dad is one of these people
@@romantic_hippie I'm sorry that you had to go through that. It was my father too. Part of you is obviously glad that they had you because otherwise you wouldn't exist, while the other part is just like, why the fuck did you have kids if you can't love them 🤷🏼♂️
@@romantic_hippie I'm sorry for that dude, no kid should have to deal with that kind of shit. For me, it was my mom. She blamed me for her failed life and would hurt me however she could think of; physically, mentally, and emotionally.
The audacity to try to help your child with bullying after being the one bullying them 😭
Bruh, the trust issues she's probably developed 🥲
Looks more like an excuse if you ask me, I think her real intends are more likely due the fact her daughter was seeing a boy. There are crazy parents who get batsh*t insane all because their offspring are dating someone, as if it was a capital crime...
It sounds like cyber Munchausen by proxy to me.
What I don’t understand is you can get arrested for cyber bullying but when a bully is beating you up nothing happens
@@TP-op9bb exactly, creating a problem so that she can use it to control and isolate her daughter - getting the police involves makes perfect sense in that regard, she's using it to earn attention as the 'brave mom standing up for and protecting her bullied daughter'
Super manipulative: she's trying to alienate her daughter from her peers, likely to make it hard for her to turn to anyone but her.
Yea I was kind of thinking she was trying to create a scenario where she was trying to be viewed as a source of security by her daughter but in a weird and manipulative way. Very sad.
It sure backfired!
Daughter is justified to never talk to her again!
Yep.
No abuse like psychological abuse. This mother has permanently damaged the trust between her and her daughter. Like this is going to be one of things that haunts the family for the rest of their lives.
The daughter might be walking away from this with a entire new tier of trust issues.
You're right, however there really shouldn't be any level of trust between this woman and her daughter. The daughter should abandon this woman and go no contact for life.
@annistar9693yes, might is unfortunately applicable in some of these situations.
She needs to get n her bag n Leave she will be better n all aspects
You’re right. For SURE she’s scarred from this. I can’t even imagine. Poor kid.
It's ridiculous to see an adult acting like the high school bully (that she most likely was when she was in school). People like her NEVER grow up, and everyone is their potential victim, even family. She's a true sociopathic narcissist.
Since when does a high school coach have to secretly bully kids. They usually do it in front of everyone. 🤷🏼♂️
Since now
Now the kids would cry and complain and get them fired
@ryanherrera5829 in this case it's deserved.
@@ryanherrera5829 and thats bad how??
@@brezzychill2424 I know this is a rare case, but when we got a PE 'teacher' that started bullying certain kids, the class would turn around and give back what they got. The principal and the District director got involved and laughed about it when we told the whole story. They didn't fire him, but told him that if he couldn't handle having the same shit platter served to him as he was giving to us, he could leave.
Honestly I wish that was the case in most schools, feels like we were being trained for creating Unions against those that abuse power.
This is 100% a mother that "secretly" hates and resents her own child. Healthiest thing for her daughter to do would be to disown her mother, tbh. Maybe get a restraining order because this woman is clearly crazy.
she had that "bullying builds character" mentality
The most cringe mentality ever I stfg
I hope the other inmates help her "build character" by literally tearing her a new one.
Bullying can build character, sure.
Unfortunately, you can't choose what kind of character you're going to get in the end.
@@crowdemon_archivesYou're right about all of that. Bullying someone could create another school shooter or a serial killer
@@crowdemon_archives the character usually being insecurity , social anxiety and severe trauma
The last time I heard about something like this, an adult ended up bullying a teenager into suicide online. This shit deserves attempted murder charges at this point.
Somebody being unable to find the "Block" warrants a murder charge? 👀
@@j.jbinks9669You do realize that it doesn't always work because the bully can still create other accounts if they're determined enough, right ?
@@melissa6912 But then how are people supposed to justify to themselves being terrible to people they don’t know?
@@j.jbinks9669I wish ibwas apathetic and had no sense of awareness to real harassment like u
Shes not remorseful. She's upset she is getting consequences for her actions.
This reminds me of the case where the woman murdered her husband and used her kids just to get sympathy points from others. Even wrote a kids book on how to handle grief.
"Oh, my poor kids, let me take care of you. Look at me everyone, I'm such a good mother."
I saw the news about that...Why would she do this?
Not really similar, but aight
@@gamerhero9559Money
@@gamerhero9559attention.
@@gamerhero9559she wanted to buy and sell a new house and he wanted to stop doing the flipping and work on being a family and through her abusive issues. So she killed him to flip a house, essentially.
She's not sorry for hurting her daughter, her daughter's partner, and everyone else involved... she's sorry that she got herself caught. She was so stupid and so narcissistic to think she wouldn't eventually get caught. It's like a Lifetime movie.
Sadly and unfortunately, this is not uncommon. my mother did this to my older sister on facebook and I have a friend whose father is doing this to them and their siblings at this very moment on twitter. The police rarely get involved, though, I wish they did more often. They're so many whys and whats, and even knowing the why doesn't help us understand. I'm glad this woman is getting jail time.
Why there's no point
Then your mother would be wondering why you and your sister won't talk to her
@@Heretowatchvideos123 exactly!!! been almost two years at this point since we last spoke to her and it was constantly talking to/arguing with a brick wall. No responses and just angry faces, or angry face and justifications for the behavior and the acts. the EPITOME of gaslighting. My only regret is that we tried for so long to understand, to work it out, and didn't cut her out sooner. I hope the girl mentioned in this video doesn't even bother with her mother. She'll be better for it.
@@Heretowatchvideos123 Sometimes Parents will bully their own kids anonymously because they’re too big of fucking cowards to confront their children about things they think are “issues.” Like for example, I never felt the need to shave my legs. But the repeated comments from my mom about how Gross other people will think I am eventually made me develop self consciousness about the appearance of my legs. Which already, not great, yknow! But a parent who’s too much of a pussy to face their own kid might bully them anonymously over a habit they want the kid to change and pretend like it’s not their fault.
Agreed. The only thing now is that I have relatives (like my grandmother and uncle) who feel bad for my mom so they always ask me to talk to her again. It triggers my cPTSD flashbacks, so I obv don't do it, but I don't blame them for telling me to. They just want to feel like they're doing their part and clear their own consciences over it. (They aren't really pressuring me, just a quick mention on rare occasion. Typically only after they spoke to her recently and she guilt tripped them into telling me.) @@LC-zp3qi
My like is solidarity. My mum was a piece of work too.
This is worse on every level for that poor daughter. Not only was she mentally scarred by all the bullying (some that may never go away after experiencing it), but she also lost a mother along with it. The person that was supposed to help you out and be your comfort, ended up being your biggest bully 😒🤦🏿
She’s gonna get bullied for real for this now too
My father and his wife bullied me worse than anyone at school. Some people really hate their kids.
There are some awful parents put there…you don’t need to pass or test or get license to be a parent.
And I don’t know your situation, but for many bad parents I have encountered….I wouldn’t call it hate, but variety of other things….such as jealousy (even just that you are younger), or anger at other things, and finding a kid a way to take out that anger at the world, or that they feel they are stretched too far by adult life, which can be tough, etc. Doesn’t make it better or justify it….but I would say it generally isn’t just “hate” of the child, just some don’t have the adult bandwidth and maturity to be decent parents.
As a Michigander, we do not claim her and we hereby banish her from The Great Lakes State for the rest of her miserable life. I hope her daughter has support from other family members and her friends. There are better ways of relieving boredom and getting attention that don't involve traumatizing minors. I'm glad she self snitched and got herself locked up. It's what she deserves.
Word, I'm from Grand Rapids, we might not have that great of night life but I don't feel like cyberbullying family members for poops and giggles
Respect Great Lakes regions! We will never take her in either. ❤ ~ New England. Much love, and maple syrup, and Lobstah! Not at the same time. Lol
She’ll be in Michigan for a long time. The rest of don’t want her either lol. She’ll probably end up on parole and not being allowed to leave the state without permission.
As a fellow Michigander, I say we banish her to Indiana.
Michigan ain’t that great
How to ruin your relationship with your daughter for life 101
As a young parent who’s into tech shit, I dare a mom to be bold enough to do this to my kid. I’ll out her and her entire bloodline in a coffezilla type assembly
…. You know she was the one doing it to her own daughter right? 😂
@@dinkybossshe did it to multiple other kids. Did you watch the video??
okay look at the hard ass over here
Your kids a punk lol come at me.
No sympathy either way
As a student at the university in that town, it doesn’t really surprise me to see this situation coming out. There’s a lot of bored people of questionable mental stability in the area.
Michigan lol
All of this was a manipulation tactic by the mom, who is a clear narcissist.
She bullied her daughter so the girl would be vulnerable and come to her mother for help. As a way to say, I’m always here for you and you can never leave me.
Jesus I hope the daughter can recover from this, I can’t imagine why any mother would put their own child through hell like that, especially when they start cyber bullying, also I don’t think the daughter would want to see her mother anymore after the trauma she did to her daughter, it’s for the best if she cut her from her life and try to move forward.
My parents always used to tell me that the way you act and the things you do when you think no one is watching, reveals who you really are. I now see this demonstrated daily when people think the are anonymous, especially online.
As someone currently being bullied by mom as a 34 year old man. I can say some people just feel like they can get away with it because it’s their kid. All is justified even if their actions ultimately hurting them.
Cut ties completely and go to the police. That breeder has no right to know you.
Do you live with her? I'd say cut her off if you are able.
Please hang in there and protect yourself. There are many of us going through the same and there's some great communities online that can offer support, like r/raisedbynarcissists. The channels Dr Ramani & Surviving Narcissism (Dr Les Carter) are really informative, helpful, and have large communities as well. Please be careful because as my narc mother aged, she's tried switching the narrative and claiming that I'm the abuser, claiming "elder abuse" which is a very serious offense. I've heard others going through the same, as the abuse often gets worse as they age.
I have an aunt that suffers from an extreme form of BPD. This sounds like something she would have done to my cousin. She harassed every member of our family so bad most have restraining orders and the rest just won't talk to her. A literal witch.
"A literal witch"
That's certainly one way go describe a person with a debilitating mental health disorder. Ableism I believe is the new "in" term for it.
Funny how mental illness only ever seems to matter when it's wogs doing bad things.
I inherited BPD from my mother and honestly… yeah.
Maybe the mom thought it would bring her daughter closer to her ( the daughter coming to her for help). It's twisted no matter what the " reasoning" behind her actions. SMH
Possibly. I'm middling sort of okayish at guessing people's motivations from dealing with an out of control dumpster fire family but this lady is beyond me. Your theory is good as any
Edit she sent messages to the boyfriend as well. Maybe she felt threatened by that relationship. I've been a parent's emotional support blankie and they lost their crap every time i became friends with someone
@catsncrows yep. My mom hates it when I am in a relationship because she thinks they are stealing me away from her..
@@GlitterC8k I'm so sorry! It's very exhausting isn't it?
@@catsncrows It is and now she keeps sending me baby pictures and posts about how moms will always do things for their children out of selfless love 😒 The guilt trip is real
@@GlitterC8k ugh, yes. I finally kicked my sister to the curb because i realized a lot of things i accepted were really out of control. When i cut contact she really pulled out all the stops. She tried every trick in the book
I saw this story a while ago and I always thought why? The mom can hate the daughter, neglect her and stuff but no this is a whole level of evil. She got burner phones,vpns, covered her tracks and ACTIVELY SAT DOWN WITH A LEVEL HEAD TO BULLY HER OWN DAUGHTER AND TRIED TO PIN ON SOME RANDOM GUY. Why? I feel so sorry for the daughter. The most trustworthy group of people should be your parents, but her own parent was her worst enemy. Thank god the mom was caught and left the daughter's life early otherwise I don't know what would've happened if this went on
Imagine how hard it will be to trust anyone in the future after all this
My daughters step mom kinda did the same thing as in tell the police on herself pretty much. She went to police lying about someone abusing someone else and that investigation turned into a child abuse investigation against her and her husband, my ex. They both ended up with child abuse charges and now I have full custody. People are strange.
I feel there's a clear reason. Not only did she want to manipulate her daughter into relying on her more, she also wanted to be seen as a hero. Just imagine the headlines of the "brave upstanding mother" that saved her daughter from bullies. I also feel they should look into the parents of the kid she tried to frame. See if the mother disliked them over stupid shit from the past
Theory: The mother might have been doing this to try to get her daughter to off herself, so the she (the mother) could get sympathy and possibly press attention. She could've become a huge face in anti-bullying, even started a charity, if her daughter had passed.
She might also have had a nice litte gift in the form of a life insurance to claim in that event.
The funny thing is, my bio mother and step father tried to do exactly this to me. But on the flipside they tried to frame me as their abuser, so when I would have offed myself, they def would have taken the sympathy, making everyone believed they tried their hardest to help me, all the while they were the ones who pulled the trigger lmao. Glad this girl got justice!!
@@choulchoul9119dang. I'm sorry this happened to you 😔
I think that's been my mother's goal. The bully who wants to act like a victim so they can get support and attention. I was ignored asking for help as a teen, being told I was over-reacting, then later how I needed help, but they wouldn't get me help until I tried to take my life. Even after that and multiple diagnosis including depression, their treatment of me never changed except to get worse. My narc mother wouldn't let me talk to family, and I recently found out why. It's because she's telling them that I'm abusive to her! Narcissists often go through a cycle of Bully, Savior, Victim, and it absolutely has to do with getting attention and sympathy. Ironic since they have zero sympathy for others.
imagine explaining to other inmates how you went to prison
Some parents are just narcissists and don't need to be parents.
This lady is a psychopath. If she didn’t get caught she would have pushed harder to learn what else she could get away with. Who knows what would have happened.
HER OWN DAUGHTER!!! I CANT GET OVER THIS!!! imagine how the daughter felt when she realized her main bully is HER OWN MOTHER...
It’s giving
“I was bullied and I’m acting out my revenge vicariously through my daughter and her friends while simultaneously abusing my adult authority and ability to manipulate such a situation”
A long one but GOT DAMN LADY
She was pulling a “Skankhunt42”😂. Glad she snitched on herself🤣
I just saw a community post about how someone grew up without a dad because he was a fighter pilot and had to eject, but if he did his plane would crash into a school. So he crashed it elsewhere, traded his life for all those kids lives.
This mom is like the polar opposite of that.
Less than a minute in and it makes me think of these 'Munchhausen by proxy' cases you hear about. I've heard of nurses who intentionally trigger life-threatening emergencies in their patients so they can 'heroically' attempt to 'save' them. It's the epitome of 'some of you may die, but that's a risk I'm willing to take'. It's messed up.
This is right up there with doing drugs and neglecting your child. All trust is completely gone.
If I was that child I would not want any contact with that “mother”. Toxic behavior gets no pass, regardless of relation.
If you have to do this to feel something, to get the attention of your child, to feel more like a mom…. Then you need therapy and something is wrong with you as a person.
Sick. The number of narcissist mothers out there is disturbing, they are particularly vicious to their daughters.
Hope the daughter and the other victims can recover and that they stay away from this vile woman.
"Do you see the perpetrator?"
"Yeah, im right here!"
Never gets old
I feel like there was ONE other case of a mother cyber bullying her own daughter but quite frankly this isn’t the first time a mother cyber bullied a teen.
Never forget the time a mother stepped in to a fight her daughter had with a former friend (if I remember right they used to be friends) and cyber bullied the girl so bad she end gamed herself.
She has been on a few talk shows trying to downplay what she did but no one lets her get away with it. I wish I could remember her name because she was AWFUL.
Was it the Megan Meier case?
Daughter should ask the judge to grant her 100 years of restraining order against her mom.
I laughed out loud at that HOA joke 😆
She got the police involved because she’s so self-centered that she thought it wouldn’t be taken that seriously (or that they didn’t have the means of figuring out who it was), and then she could be the martyr when the cops “weren’t doing anything.’
I feel so bad for the daughter, I know she’s gonna have severe trust issues for the rest of her life, I would
a lot of older people take their issues out on younger people because they are jealous that they are no longer young and no longer get that “young experience” of highschool and they’re 20s again and this women is definitely one of them
So, "peaked in high school" bunch.
This kinda reminds me of the mom whose daughter didnt make the hs cheer squad, so she made deep fake prons of all the other girls and leaked them to the school.
This happened in my county, it was my bosses daughter. Shit was wild.
As a mother who lost her child at 10 to a drunk driver this “ mother “ is disgusting and I hope she never finds joy again 🤬
This defies words. I’m so sorry for your loss and I hope you find the support you deserve
Oh man! That’s so sad. I hope you’ve been able to find healing and peace.
May your daughter have a peaceful rest.
What mother would inflict this kind of mental pain on their own daughter? what a sick SICK woman!!! deserves prison for life. I really hope her daughter is somewhere safe and actually cared for :(
Why would she report herself like that!? She thought cause she used fake names phone numbers she thought it wouldn't route back to her? I'm so sorry for that daughter having to go through something like that, that woman must have some type of hate towards kids and its crazy.
So, it reminds me of when killers will help with the search or try to assist the police. Also reminds me a bit of Munchhausen‘s (?) because sometimes the parents will make their children sick on purpose and then pretend to help them.
The fact she did it to her own daughter 🫠 ugh. It’s like she wants to be a bully and also the hero.
Some people really shouldn’t be parents. I hope the daughter gets therapy and love and support from her other family and friends.
I was thinking the same
If you cyberbully your own daughter you have a problem.
How to tell your daughter you hate her without telling your daughter you hate her...
It makes me think the target she was trying to blame was why she did this. Like she got mad at a kid and then set up something to get him in trouble. Without having any care for her daughter or the boyfriend. The whole thing is sickening.
That is just saddening and traumatizing. I hope the daughter won't be too affected by the act of her own mother.
She definitely just wanted to play hero and have people come to her for help and support, she literally created a problem so she could solve it and look like some kind of savior
This has happened a few times IIRC, I remember this happening when I was a kid. Some people are just a liability and burden on others throughout their life unfortunately.
The best way she could have broken her daughter and boyfriend up would be to start getting friendly with his parents, nothing like a dinner date with your kids and the boyfriend's/girlfriend's parents to quickly scare the kids apart...😂
Way less effort and collateral damage too!
Might even make a bunch of new friends!
I just finished a book where the main character is a psychopath who’s favorite hobby is gaining strangers’ trust online, and then coaxing them into saying some shit to get them cancelled.
Didn’t think I’d hear someone do something similar.
ooh, name?
Its sad how thats actually just common behavior these days
@@chang3025 Maeve Fly.
Think a modern day, female American Psycho. Heads up: does have erotica and crazy violence.
The fact she's allowed to see her daughter is baffling...
I mean it’s up to the family how they wanna move forward
the fact her daughter still wants to see her is what baffles me. i’d never be able to trust my mother again. poor girl 😢
She deserves all 5years, the damage she has done is a lifetime
She's not remorseful. If she was she wouldn't have done that to children/teens even worse her OWN child and try to pin it on another child.
Straight up took the line "sometimes a child's first bully is their teacher" to a whole other level.
Ngl she shouldn't even have access to her child anymore at that point. She proved to be the worst parent possible.
I've been going through a whole lot of shit lately and watching your videos my main source of happiness. Thank you to you and your wife🙏
just motherly things
This story is one of those movies that say "Based on a Real Story" and the real story is more insane than the actual movie
This kinda reminds me of that one lady who cyber-bullied a family just because she had the same name as the daughter who un-alived herself. The lady convinced herself that daughter was murdered and the lady got called out on Dr.Phil
As someone with a jealous mother, this fits the profile of the lengths they will go to in order to remind their kid that their worth less then the dirt they walk on. This women must be truly unhappy in her life to even contemplate such behavior.
I had a jealous psychopath mom who tried to intentionally f up all of my friendships (and psychologically terrorize my friends' moms) and would on the regular say shit like "Your mother is your only true friend". I could see her doing things like this if it had been that time. She would 100% try to ruin my life online and IRL. She really wanted to drive me to hurt myself and would actually suggest this from time to time. To this day, I don't tell her anything about my life in order to protect myself. I hope her daughter finds healing. That is some CPTSD shit. I don't think that is a fixable relationship. She may have to go NC with her mom someday. Something is broken, and it is NOT on the daughter to fix that. I wanted to believe that if I were good enough, or pretty enough, or got good enough grades and tried to meet her standards, she'd treat me better. Spoiler alert, she didn't. If there is one consolation, at least she didn't say "It's just a prank, you're too sensitive!" -- which is something akin to what I'd hear from my mom when she'd torture my stuffed animals when I was little, making me cry. Like I said, she was a sick, sick woman, and that was not the only way she was abusive. It would not surprise me if this mother's sickness manifested in other ways. I am glad she is at least being punished and that the world knows what she did.
“so what are you in for”
“cyberbullying my daughter”
Looks like she's just doing the same thing as Syndrome in The Incredibles: creating a problem to make herself seem like the hero
“Becoming my Daughter’s Bully” coming to Lifetime this Fall 👀
This reminds me of the South Park episode where Kyle's dad was trolling the parents by photoshopping dongs in their mouth on the school social media site and blamed it on Ike 😂
Glad I'm no the only one.
It’s like when someone steals from you, then try’s to help you find the “thing you lost”. This isn’t boredom, it’s mentally unhinged
How do people think it's ok to bully in general, yes you can just turn off the computer but you can't forget the names and insults
yeah u can
@@sombra_rex1212 no not really, especially if you find out it's your mom
anyone who thinks it's okay needs to experience what it's like getting physically assaulted and at a couple of points sexually attacked by your bullies.
Can’t believe she got so much time… I’d love to know the details.
Lowkey sounds like the mother might be a case of Munchausen syndrome by proxy. Either way, what she did was terrible and unforgivable.
As a Michigander I say WE DON'T CLAIM HER!!!!!!!!
My mom was my bully....but at least she did it to my face.
Playing 3D chess with herself that's some crazy s*** right there
I can’t fathom why a mother would do this in this fashion. I know why mothers would mentally abuse their young if they are trying to force their kids into doing what they couldn’t or in jealousy of their kin success but just to randomly cyber bully her daughter and not have a reason to do so? And CONTINUE to do it despite seeing the trouble despite god know what? My only guess is that she was a cyber bully in the past and relapsed or some shit
As a social worker, I too cannot understand how any parent can abuse their child in any manner. It's absolutely nonsensical.
I think it's good for rich spoiled kids to have some adversity in their lives to develop character and strength, but this is going way too far. I don't understand if she was trying to help, or if she was actually bullying her own daughter and her friends because she is insecure and got a kick out of it. My parents did a decent job by supporting me, letting me make my own decisions and letting me carve my own path. It's important for parents to give their kids the freedom to do this while protecting them from outside harmful influences in their lives.
Adversity is fine and all, that's just life.
This one, on the other hand, is a self-made problem that has very little payoff for the amount of effort put in.
Atleast there was nobody actually bullying her 😅
Lol this is the most funniest thing I've heard of. It sounds like something straight out of a novel 😅 But the answer to your question Atozy, she did it too her daughter so she wouldn't look suspicious. Think about it, if she was the only one from her class who never received these threats and harassment, people would have found some suspicion between her and her mother. Also calling the police was to make them believe she was that worried 😂😂😂
I feel so bad for her child the most, imagine being the child to the parent who bullied multiple children, I doubt that would go well knowing how children are
Narcissist mom 101
I genuinely couldnt understand what would even begin to drive a mother to do something like this, but then the news casters said who the other victim was. This mother clearly was trying to manipulate her daughter to end her relationship. One of the most disgusting things about it is how cowardly the manipulation was. She clearly didnt want to voice her distaste openly so she created a fake identity to do it while she got to play the loving mother. I hope for her daughters own sake she has the strength to never allow her mother back into her life. She is deeply manipulative and abusive and I would never risk a second chance on someone like that.
without diagnosing anyone obvs, this behavior reminds me of the "Factitious disorder imposed on another" (formerly munchhausen-by-proxy) phenomenon. causing others distress/harm so you can cast yourself as the savior/helper and gain attention/social clout from that.
Imagine not getting enough of it in bed to the point where you start cyber bullying your own daughter...OOF!😅
What does her husband the father of the daughter think of what she's done because i hope he's getting a divorce
She saw that south park troll episode and told herself "I can do this" 😂
As someone who lives in small town Michigan I can confirm this is just a local hobby
Bro that’s sick and sad. Why? Just boredom? 😭
The mom might have a hero complex where she sets up dangerous situations so that she can swoop in and be the supportive hero. Definitely mental illness.
This sounds like some origin to a hero story where the parent is the villain but the kid doesn't know until the parent became to comfortable and feel like they can't be touched
Another thing she might just have been a highschool bully and missed the feeling of making people feel miserable
Some parents are jealous of their children for various reasons. I ended up looking like a tiny clone of my birthmother and for her it was a constant reminder of her aging so yea some adults are just rank and hate their kids