Thanks Lysa for your wisdom and honesty in addressing these issues. The support from Joel and Jim. Rightly said death of a marriage for the one affected but it involves the children too. Someone has commented as to how the children have been used as scapegoats and are left confused. Unfortunately even christian circles don't know how to deal with this.
(I apologize if this is the wrong place to request this but I couldn't find a messaging area. So sorry!) May I request a show addressing sociopaths/antisocial personality disorder, please? For those who do not know, sociopaths are one step above the narcissistic personality disorder (as if it can get worse), and the very opposite of "antisocial." To me, the name "sociopath" is much more appropriate because these are very social individuals bc by being expert socializers they can lure people in to take anything and EVERYTHING they can from their prey (victim). Even taking from their own children - with zero guilt or remorse. Once done taking until nothing's left, they leave their victim severely abused in every way, stranded, broken, confused, broke, and twisted mentally feeling like it is all their own fault. The damage they leave behind is like an F5 tornado. Literally. Sociopaths are expert conmen. I have witnessed a sociopath con some very respectable, Godly men in a Holy Spirit-filled, life-giving, growing large church. The destruction sociopaths do to their own families/children is indescribable and sickening. And they do not stick around for the aftermath of all they have caused bc they've already moved on to the next person(s) they can victimize and devastate. I really believe the church doesn't talk about this very real evil running rampant today, deceiving good-intended, loving, trusting people of God, who are being beaten down by someone who promised to love them and they trusted to do so. Instead, sociopaths leave their victims sitting in severe verbal, emotional, and physical abuse with nowhere to turn bc nobody believes the "crazy" stories they have experienced. Only someone who has been abused by a sociopath and survived can truly understand. These victims need the church to turn to for urgent help. They need strong men and women of faith in the church who can relate and/or are trained specifically with this type of severe abuse occurring, and then take them in to start the long process of healing and restoring. Please help!
Thank you so for saying what you said I agree completely. I was thinking the same thing and I didn't know where to say it either. I have been through what you are talking about. And I agree we need christian content on how to handle that behavior it's on a whole different level. In being a victim of it you can feel very lost because normal advice doesn't work on that level.
Thank you for revisiting this topic. I've come to think of divorce as a death certificate for the marriage. Like a normal death certificate, its existence occurs after the event that it is documenting occurs.
I would love to have more explanation on there are two sides to the story. Because when a person hears only one person's version of what is going on, there is another side, or maybe it should be there is the other person's version! Help!
It would be best and the right thing for husband and wife to tell the kids and parents about the divorce together. Pray and use wisdom. The kids and parents will have an opinion no matter what you tell them.
In a biblical divorce (infidelity, abuse, abandonment) I don't think that is really possible, and may even be a dishonest conversation. The transgressor will want to cover. If the couple was able to do so, I don't think they would be in that position. What do you think?
@@alyssamurphy2002 yes you are right the transgressor is not going to be that humble, honest, and transparent to admit wrong, fault, and take accountability and seek forgiveness. That’s too difficult for them to do.
Thanks Lysa for your wisdom and honesty in addressing these issues. The support from Joel and Jim. Rightly said death of a marriage for the one affected but it involves the children too. Someone has commented as to how the children have been used as scapegoats and are left confused. Unfortunately even christian circles don't know how to deal with this.
I've missed these so much. Please keep doing them on a regular basis. X
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(I apologize if this is the wrong place to request this but I couldn't find a messaging area. So sorry!) May I request a show addressing sociopaths/antisocial personality disorder, please? For those who do not know, sociopaths are one step above the narcissistic personality disorder (as if it can get worse), and the very opposite of "antisocial." To me, the name "sociopath" is much more appropriate because these are very social individuals bc by being expert socializers they can lure people in to take anything and EVERYTHING they can from their prey (victim). Even taking from their own children - with zero guilt or remorse. Once done taking until nothing's left, they leave their victim severely abused in every way, stranded, broken, confused, broke, and twisted mentally feeling like it is all their own fault. The damage they leave behind is like an F5 tornado. Literally. Sociopaths are expert conmen. I have witnessed a sociopath con some very respectable, Godly men in a Holy Spirit-filled, life-giving, growing large church. The destruction sociopaths do to their own families/children is indescribable and sickening. And they do not stick around for the aftermath of all they have caused bc they've already moved on to the next person(s) they can victimize and devastate. I really believe the church doesn't talk about this very real evil running rampant today, deceiving good-intended, loving, trusting people of God, who are being beaten down by someone who promised to love them and they trusted to do so. Instead, sociopaths leave their victims sitting in severe verbal, emotional, and physical abuse with nowhere to turn bc nobody believes the "crazy" stories they have experienced. Only someone who has been abused by a sociopath and survived can truly understand. These victims need the church to turn to for urgent help. They need strong men and women of faith in the church who can relate and/or are trained specifically with this type of severe abuse occurring, and then take them in to start the long process of healing and restoring. Please help!
Thank you so for saying what you said I agree completely. I was thinking the same thing and I didn't know where to say it either. I have been through what you are talking about. And I agree we need christian content on how to handle that behavior it's on a whole different level. In being a victim of it you can feel very lost because normal advice doesn't work on that level.
It’s the side that you dropped me off on
So glad to see this topic covered. Thanks for posting.
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Thank you for revisiting this topic. I've come to think of divorce as a death certificate for the marriage. Like a normal death certificate, its existence occurs after the event that it is documenting occurs.
Very helpful. Thank you
I would love to have more explanation on there are two sides to the story. Because when a person hears only one person's version of what is going on, there is another side, or maybe it should be there is the other person's version! Help!
Thank you for this!
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It would be best and the right thing for husband and wife to tell the kids and parents about the divorce together. Pray and use wisdom. The kids and parents will have an opinion no matter what you tell them.
In a biblical divorce (infidelity, abuse, abandonment) I don't think that is really possible, and may even be a dishonest conversation. The transgressor will want to cover. If the couple was able to do so, I don't think they would be in that position. What do you think?
@@alyssamurphy2002 yes you are right the transgressor is not going to be that humble, honest, and transparent to admit wrong, fault, and take accountability and seek forgiveness. That’s too difficult for them to do.