My truth regarding the beauty community
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2018
- This video was SUPER hard to post, but I felt it's really important to share my point of view with the current beauty community situation. I hope you understand my reasoning for talking about this- it's not to partake in any drama or to bash any one person. I want to give a well rounded point of view as a brand owner but also as a longtime influencer who has first hand seen the beauty community evolving over the last 10 years.
I'll be planning on the coming months doing shout outs and videos with new artists that would love the attention and support. Let me know what else I can personally do to improve the beauty community and get it back to makeup!!
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Marlena
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Anyone else here from "Dear Influencers" ?🙋♀️
Me
Amanda McQueen 🙋🏻
I've never known much about Marlena..until the video about Jaclyn's furry, foul lipsticks..
I watched the whole hour & a half Vid..& WoW, what a classy babe!
She's really been shat on a lot of times..but, she soldiers on.
I'll definitely be purchasing some Makeup Geek products.. I never realised how long she's been around for & how many influencers she's kindly helped.. Really shines a light on the murky, dark side of the industry..
She's REAL, Genuine & a true role model & BOSS Chick ⭐️✌🏼!!!
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Unfortunately things have gotten worse almost a year later.
Take me back to 2008, before beauty channels considered themselves gurus, hauls were products purchased from actual stores not sponsors/PR and the must have palette was from BH cosmetics.
Andrea Fernandez and coastal scents lol
flor pina coastal scents! That’s the one! It was so long ago I couldn’t even remember 😂
And sigma brushes was the new thing lol
Omg i loved that time
The 120 color palette! Lol
Who else came from “ Dear Influencers”. ✋🏽2019
Melene Joy Gurrola ✋
Me!!!
Melene Joy Gurrola 🙋♀️
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Me!!!
This video pissed a lot of people off, but like it's only 8 minutes long. So I came here from Dear Influence to see why people got so pissy.
She hit the nail on the head in "dear influencers" when she said a hit dog will holier cause she said nothing to anyone directly but he came out swinging lol.
This video pissed just the influencers of, the have that range of subs and confirmed charge around 60k for a video, and who felt offended... JC and this influencers she ment!;)
Lol me too!
these influencers that think they deserve more money than doctors and lawyers for promoting MAKEUP need to take several seats.
Who said that?
@@aydandraws9444 the influencers demanding hundreds of thousands for a couple weeks worth of "work".
I laughed so hard too when I realised how much the beauty blogger (in my country) get for promote product photo on their Facebook, it’s higher than country average salary !!
infuencers cannot eat makeup
It's so crazy to me how much beauty influencers make. I'm a lawyer and went to a reputable law school. Most of my friends and myself included made $50-80k their first year as an attorney in Chicago!! And we work our butts off! A "normal" work week for us is 60-70hours! Even friends who work at "big reputable law firms" made about $100-120k a year as a first year associate, and they work 80-100hrs a week! So whenever I hear influencers say "I'm so stressed! I work really hard and we travel so much!" I just roll my eyes, because who doesn't??! But nobody is paying us to fly to the Maldives and party for free 🤷🏻♀️
Idk about you guys but I miss 2013-14 beauty youtube
GlitterGlossandGabs same!
Same
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Totally!
actually 2007-2009 was better and i wasnt even around for it LOL
2019 after Dear Influencers.
Love to you Marlena. 🖤
Same.
VanniDeGio ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
“There comes a sense of entitlement.”
James Charles - “Did someone say my name?”
Jennifer Broughton 😂😂😂😂😂😂
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I miss the days where RUclips was like hanging out with your girlfriend and getting ready. These days I feel like it’s nothing but product promotions, crazy trips, hauls, and PR unboxing. I can’t relate. It sucks because I watch the transition with so many of my old favorites and it’s not about passion, it’s about marketing and consumerism. I feel like the majority of videos are like watching QVC at this point. It’s losing its fun. And when I do find good ones, I almost wish they would stay small Bc I don’t want them to lose it. I know that sounds horrible 🙁
I totally agree. It's like tuning in just to watch a commercial.
Well said! 👏
Exactly
Right. Meanwhile, I'm watching this video and genuinely hoping no one mentions my favorite small channels because I don't want them tainted by any brand sponsorships. It's sad and selfish to not want them to be noticed, but these sponsorships always seem to remove the integrity of our favorite vloggers.
So true... it's sad. No one feels truly trustworthy anymore. The sense of connection is totally lost in my eyes.
emily noel is the prime example of a influencer that got as big as she is because of her true love and passion of makeup
Amen!
This!! I plan to buy her palettes simply because she's been so very honest and passionate about a pure love of makeup rather than as an opportunity to live lavishly. I'm so tired of seeing RUclipsrs "all of the sudden" taking over the top trips, etc. Bring back authenticity!
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Agree 100% !
Luv her ....
I’m here from “Dear Influencers”, and I just have to say, reading some of these comments complaining about MUG prices are ridiculous. Y’all are literally complaining about one eyeshadow pan being $6?? Now I’m wondering why y’all are not out there attacking every brand at Sephora?? Stick to Walmart and stop complaining.
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@@jessicajones6027 !!!a@
Jessica Jones you can get that at Walmart or the drugstore as well. My point is that her eyeshadows are already cheap, like literally McDonald’s is more expensive.
Marlena is so classy, authentic and beautiful. I love her.
From someone who works behind the counter and have a true love of the industry it's a huge slap in the face to see the company I work so hard for send these influencers on trips and pay them more than the people preselling, and working the crazy hours ,in heels mind you, it's so hard to stomach!! Some of these influencers will even mispronounce their favriot products! I'm so glad your an owner who sees thru it. And that's why you have succeeded..... beauty gurus are a trend! You are a legend!
corey blair YESSSS! I too work for a brand, selling the products every day, I know how ya feel!!
Seriously! Instead of spending money on trips and paying for videos, give something to the customer back...quality all around not mediocre products.
Now this is real shit. You guys are the ones who deserve trips and a pay raise
Yes! This is one of the reasons I don’t work behind the counter anymore and decided to freelance. They don’t appreciate their employees who bust their butt selling product every day and getting next to nothing for it.
corey blair my point exactly!! I also work in retail and it’s so sad.
I feel like momma has spoken and its time for the children to sit down.
AmandaKeith amen.
😂 yes!!!!
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AmandaKeith YASSSS 👏🏼
YESSSS
We thought Tati shot James down in a truth video
Marlena: Hold my eyeshadows
More like shot him down in a "LIE" video, since she had no proof to anything she said.
Hellow lmao ok girl. James is a heinous human being. Entitled pesky little boy.
Hellow he confirmed everything she said.. his “truth” video didn’t actually tell us anything we didn’t already know.
@@hellow4130 why still defending JC? Marlena got receipts to prove that James Charles is evil, envious and manipulative. Duh...
Hellow
ok Hellow, what did James C. promise you. 🤣😂😆come on you can tell us.
I remember how this video started so much drama. I never watched it, just kind of knew the jist of what it was about, but it just showed up in my recommendations.
And I am shocked that she rocked the beauty YTers with an 8 minute long video. 😂 She did that.
KelseyEffingRenee same!! I never even looked for it bc I figured it was forever long. (But I watched every minute of dear influencers 🤦🏽♀️😂)
I remember when Jaclyn Hill spoke about makeup geek none stop.. until morphe came along!!!! Love u Marlena
YEEESS!! I thought about the same thing
I will never buy morphe again, that's all im saying
I don't know how Jaclyn's fans can defend her so intensely when it's been shown time and time again in multiple different scandals that she has no integrity. And now that Morphe's made her a millionaire she really only ever shows up on RUclips when she's got something she's trying to sell.
Omg you just opened my eyes!! So true
ItsMe STepH she’s the first one I thought of 😂😂
I don't blame Michelle Phan for leaving.
Wait.. what were michelles reasons?
I feel like shes talking about Jaclyn hill don’t no why... hmmm
@@mzLoCa7 i think its about manny. He had his collab and then he never speaks about MUG again
M.A jaclyn backed out of a collab last minute and it cost MUG a million dollars in loss
I agree. I love her I'm so upset she left but I understand.
2019 after Tati bye sisters vid
And also after dear influencer vids..and JC stil a 🐍
@@midgelionhart omg me too!
it's so sad that she has to apologise so much for just telling basic facts about morality.. the beauty community has become SUCH a toxic place over the last few years.
that's what happen when pple do it for the fame and money instead of it being solely a genuine passion. 😩
I remember when jaclyn hill was MUG's biggest fan... now she's so far up MORPHE's behind that she totally doesn't even acknowledge Marlena... she and others have totally lost sight of reality and just being a decent person... so much ugliness... makes me more and more uninterested in youtube... which sucks cause it's been an outlet for me for a few years... I wish you so much success Marlena!
Have you heard that Moon face Hill just backstabbed MUG? MUG just lost 1 million dollars thanks to Hill. Search!
Marlena lost $1,000,000 because of Jaclyn Hill
@@lisamesen
Yep!
@@NickanM What??? why???
@@noor.zkareem2745 she was going to release a palette with them, they created and produced some if it but jaclyn never signed the contract and kept beating around the bush about it and in the end just dropped it. She then turned around and did another collab with Morphe, leaving MUG with unfinished products..... but idk all the details, that's just what I read
Emilynoel would be perfect she gives her honest opinion on products and doesnt do sponsored videos
Totally agree.
I just love Emily and her little family. I've been watching her for over 10 years now!
Agree!
Sandy Bartlett yessssss
Emily is the real deal!
The quake in her voice says she’s nervous to talk about this... but I applaud the guts she had to do this! Strong, badass woman. I’m all about you, girl!
Marlena I pray you don't leave RUclips. This right here is what needs to continue. Someone needs to point out what is going on and bring light to this side of the beauty community. I want to start a channel but I'm not going to lie it's kinda scary to see the backstabbing etc. I LOVE make up geek and I believe y'all are one of the most underrated and under talked about companies. Besides the money I just love your quality products. Keep your head up and don't let them win. Thank you for being a voice for us. Love you and makeup geek!
Have you watched 'Dear Influencers'? She's leaving YT as an influencer 😔
@@beyondhelp666 Yeah I saw it. After hearing her video I honestly don't blame her but I really hate for her to leave! So sad she has such a good heart and people keep treating her so crappy!!
so true Mallory!!!!
@@malloryedwards846 the beauty community has just turned so toxic, we got people like James Charles running around, acting like they started the beauty community, when in fact it was people like Michelle Phan and Marlena Stell and many genuinely nice and makeup passionate people who have been in the game longer who aren't money hungry, they're the OGs. But these newer Influencers will sell out and disrespect each other and come for the OGs for no reason. Honestly can't blame her for stepping back. Maybe once the beauty community crashes and burns (which is likely to happen with the course it's currently on) then will she come back and start afresh. Marlena said so many times that she tried to steer the ship away from the rocks and the path it was veering on, but even she has had to stop. Some ships are heavily anchored for a dangerous course and unfortunately the beauty community with the current "in trend Influencers" are the problem.
Beyond Help very well said 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Emily Noel and you are a fresh air for all the drama that saturated the make up community... you guys are my fave since 2010 and I always go to your channels when I felt that all that makeup gurus are just fake people that love fame, drama and problems, but they just forget that they are in the top because of us... we need more authentic down to the earth and normal people as influencers and make up gurus, you are amazing Marlena, I’m
A truly fan of makeup and I support your point 100%.
i posted about Emily without even looking at the comments
shes a true example of proper influencer
I'm glad I keep seeing people recognize emily lately.
Yes, both of them are d first few youtubers that i watched many yrs ago.. they r sincere people who deserved much respect!!! Keep it on, Marlena! Ur eyeshadows are one of d best i have tried!!!
@@ruto693zelda84 Yes, she is a true 💎!
Love Emily ♥️ she is always so real
No influencer is worth $60,000. They better do something else with their life if they want that kind of money.
It's been widely talked about that Nikkitutorials charges 60,000 for a video. Part of the problem is her but part of the problem is the stupid companies that actually pay that and give the influencer an ego
Exactly I just paid that much to get an nursing license how is this fair for people who are actually educated
I mean its publicity an instagram post from kylie jenber can cost 300k per post lol
Straight up!!!!! That's insane!!!
honestly, they can charge what they want. and these business owners need to notice that there is more profit in smaller influencers.
Tarte is one of the brands that overdoes it with the gifts/money.
Michelle Foucault Like the exotic trips and PR 🤦🏽♀️
And Benefit
@@yoimlyssa , True!!!
Michelle Foucault but the cincelar is the best
Wherever i go i see morphe brushes and their products and it made the community more boring
Marlena, I have been with you from the start and hate to see these kinds of vids. You dont need to explain anymore than what you have been through. Please put your focus on finishing your awesome products and come out with something new, even if its repackaging/creating an eye palette with the shades your collection already has since it's always sold out. I hope to see your products in store again and maybe a palette with 4-6 shades (enough to put in my pocket) 😊 good luck!
I have been following you about 10 years. You, Lauren Luke, Kandee, and Michelle Phan taught me so much about makeup. I truly miss when the beauty community was genuine and passionate about makeup. It's sad what it's become. Thank you for staying true to yourself Marlena.
Me too... plus vintageortacky
omg, Lauren Luke was the first youtuber i watched, so talented.
Ahh, those were the DAYS!!
knightvision1228 it’s the fans fault for making idols out of normal people, as soon as I see sponsored on a video, I run!!
Yes, she was my very first! :) Miss her videos...
I definitely do think its the companies fault for spoiling beauty influencers. Giving trips, PR, and focusing on the same damn people. And influencers need to check themselves period, doing makeup doesn’t make you a god or royalty so i need them to get off their high pedestals. And us the fans need to stop glorifying them like their gods as well.
Kitty Love Amen to everything you said. The spoiling of youtubers is absolutely ridiculous
I can’t wait to see products at target!! I rarely go but I definitely have to now
Exactly! People are put on a god like status and its shameful. I think we all need to chill out with social media in general. Get back to real life without constant cameras.
AMEN AMEN!
Thank you Marlena for being so open and kind. We really appreciate your honesty!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
🤦♀️ seriously I love “drug store makeup” they have big brands low prices and no drama mama’s! I just come to y’all makeup channels to get tips how to best use the makeup I buy at Riteaide
Same here!
I agree... I dream of one pallet for Christmas. But than I see all the drugstore I can buy for that one....
Your brand was the first major brand to ever send me a PR package and to this day, I still get such a feeling of pride from using those products. I even have the postcard saved in a memory drawer. As a small company myself, I know the risk of sending influencers product and them not even acknowledging the time and effort that went into sending them the product. Thank you SO much for informing people about the journey, I will always support your company! One day I hope to have a PopLuxe x Makeup Geek Collab! Stay gorgeous Marlena and keep on being a boss babe!
I would totally buy and support that!! Please try and make it happen
I ❤️you Nadi!! Marlena- please collaborate with him!!! I’d buy it in a hot minute!!
Nadi!! How do you not have a check next to your name?!? You're so wonderful! Sending much love to you always!!
Yaaas make up geek is the shit!! Theyre way better than morphe . Its swatching tiiiiiime ♡
Love!!!
I think that MUG was pushed aside when Morphe stepped in with their 10% off code given to damn near every influencer.....at least every big one. So everyone started talking about Morphe instead only to push their codes to make even more money...like what they make already is not enuf. It's greed plain and simple. We all know that MUG products are by far better than Morphe products. Yet we still have Morphe crammed down our throats. I miss the days of MUG and I hope they make a comeback! They/Marlene truly deserves it! She built her brand in the US with the money she saved, unlike Morphe who just private labeled cheap made in China palettes.
Kathy Maddox yes! 👏
Morphe is the worst.
It's like a high end pyramid scheme
Holy crap! $60,000?! I had no idea influencers can charge that much! Wow. Thank you for being so honest, beautiful!!! I have always loved you and your videos! I have learned so much from you! ❤️
£60,000 = JC = '...a hit dog hollers the loudest'.. BOOM!!
The companies need to stop sending the influencers on brand trips. That would be a good start.
Cindy Staff Yes. You are right. They go on so many trips. And then they say, ooo I've been so bussy I didn't have time to film.
A lot of influencers sell their PR on Poshmark and places. They have no standards and expectations of those they help out.
I think Emily Noelle would be an amazing collaborator! In fact I think you guys would be besties lol She’s almost one million subbies but she’s an OG RUclipsr and has always had my respect!
Jacquelin Castillo I sooooo agree 👍🏻😃
Jacquelin Castillo yes!! She’s always stayed the same
I don’t think she does sponsorships. I think a collab would be fabulous though.
She has a collab with revolution now!
Kat MomD I saw that!
Secondly, I've watched the usual beauty videos and its lead me to your channel. I think you are a very lovely person and I cant believe I haven't came across you sooner. I will me checking out make up geek to add to my very small collection xxxx
You're stunning Marlena! No one can think of you as bad. You are a wonderful woman, and very honest. Many people believe in you, and i love to buy makeup from you. I always know that all the products are of high quality. Thank you for your videos and everything you do. Love you
Many influencers think they're celebrities, now. smdh
Right
But they are tho
Jessica jessica no they are RUclips losers
Jessica jessica What I’ve learned. I often mention a high profile RUclipsr to my friends, family or coworkers and they have no idea who I’m talking about. Within the youtube community they are celebs.
Definitely not celebs
I think this is why Michelle Phan left RUclips. She explained on her channel that the fame consumed her and it took quite a toll on her genuine and pleasant personality. Hence she needed a total detox, and after that I guess she realized the glamour behind the beauty community didn’t matter. If you look at her Instagram now, her perspective in beauty has changed. She wears little to no makeup and is finally comfortable in her own skin. Above all, she looks more at peace and I think that’s more important than anything else. I’m not saying that we should stop wearing makeup to reach some sort of enlightenment, but her story is an example on how toxic the beauty community can become for people
So thank you for recognizing quality over quantity. I’ve been a follower of the beauty community on YT for a long time and it becomes very distasteful to see drama in something as harmless as makeup. I now follow people who are more direct with their content.
Makeup is meant for everyone, And it’s sad to see influencers and companies out there using it to send the wrong messages to the world. I mean you take it off at the end of the day. And it’s supposed to be fun. So im happy you spoke out and thank you for that. I think it’s time we need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture
tamandeggs Well said! I completely agree with this! And Sums up everything perfectly
did she? bless her heart! she was the first youtuber I ever watched and inspired me to start me own. I loved her creativity! I'm so sad she left but glad she is happy now! x
YES She even lost fans because they called her out on it and other things, and it caught up with her i'm glad now she is at a better place honestly I hate how the beauty communty has become alot of good old beauty gurus left because of that
Great response! I will always miss michelles creativity, passion, and unique take on her videos. Back when RUclips was a bit more wholesome. He Em glosses are great and I wish her more success and happiness.
Hi everyone! Thanks for the great and positive responses! I’ve been wanting to put it out there for a while. As much as I love Michelle and her content, I still think she made the right decision to leave and move on to bigger things. She deserves it after everything she has been through.
One thing beauty gurus today can learn from her is to know how to take ownership of their mistakes and to take a breather. I notice most Beauty RUclipsrs and other you tubers tend to make their problems bigger by trying to defend themselves more as a way to make them look more “human”. They would say sorry but it will be layered with a lot of excuses, which to me is not genuine. Or worse, they would pin the blame on someone else. I think it would be best for everyone to just be more direct with our actions, even if it means swallowing pride and elitist knowledge about something as simple as makeup.
You're so classy in how well u explained the situation especially considering how much you've been back stabbed. I've been following you for years. Back when u only had a small group of following and you've always remained so genuine and clsssy. Wishing you the best for your next chapter. Really sad that makeup geek had to close down now. It was such a high quality, amazing brand at a great price
Love you girl!! You have done a great job of bringing attention to a topic that needs it. I believe wholeheartedly in your being genuine, honest, thoughtful and concerned. Thank you for your honesty and transparency! I wish all the best for you and Makeup Geek!!
I think it was not only important that you spoke up as one of the original beauty OGs of RUclips but commendable. You and Michelle Phan were the first two who I subscribed to and followed. I loved your integrity and honesty then and now and I truly admire that you chose to go a different path by sticking to your morals and what you believe in. Don't ever change and don't feel like you can't speak on these things. Keep being you and don't ever, EVER apologise for what you feel and think. I chose to focus more on my blog as this business can tear you down without regard. I've learnt alot along the way. Well done and thank you. ❤ xoxo
Let's not forget MUG has some of the best eyeshadows in the game. like daaaang
Coming from dear influencers video 👍
Likewise 👍🏼
Yep
Me too...I feel like marlena is genuine...
The two best sisters Rimas & Rama 🙋♀️
Cat Smith uuj
60K FOR A VIDEO 20k for a post yooooooooo these Influence's are being handed alot of money
this is very informative THESE Influence's NEED TO STOP
Yup. I get paid 24k a year and all they're doing is putting makeup on their face. Great.
But I think it’s funny how she doesn’t mention what influencer charged that $60k. High tier influencers charge a lot because they bring a lot of sales back. They should at least get 10% of the sales they bring from their videos. At the end of the day it’s strictly business and everyone has to get a fair pay
Ellen Mafo a greee
And damm that’s a lot at of money lol I bet you being a doctor or lawyer will be played out everyone will want to be an influencer
OMG I agree with all those who mentioned Emily Noel. She is definitely an OG and such a honest beauty influencer who is true to herself and her passion for makeup. Truly deserving of it
Coffeebreakwithdani would be great too
So excited for her new palette!
I’m so glad she finally got recognized!!!!
I am glad you are speaking out. You are a class act. Much respect to you! You’re product and your credibility speak for themselves!
Ahnagirl's Place Please go watch Samantha Ravndahl's video "The Problem with the Beauty Community"
I only recently discovered the RUclips beauty community ( or RUclips in its entirety for that matter) and I am shocked by all the drama! Wow 😮 I can not wrap my head around this! Love your integrity 🥰🥰🥰 I am happy that I found you, a new subscriber here 🙋🏼♀️
Marlena your spirit is so beautiful! I love the message your trying to convey. I’m truly a fan of yours. You have a heart of gold. Don’t ever change. Love you!
It’s ironic I don’t trust the “huge influencers” you seriously dodged a bullet with one of them!
Emily Noel is one of the few influencers that have stayed true to the makeup and themselves. I trust her opinion and love watching her. Please check her out. Shes great 👍🏻❤
Krystal Mead Good choice for Emily Noel! I also love Sydney Nicole and Mel Thompson.
I agree 1000%!! I love Emily SO MUCH!!!!!!!
Tara Raupach from day one I have followed Marlena and Emily .... such amazing women with empathy xx
I would be sooooo glad to be able to try more of your products, I've always supported makeup geek, even when it wasn't sold in Spain (where I live) and I've always told people how good they are, because they are GREAT products. I think you definitely deserve more support. You're doing a great job with your company.
Love how honest you are!! I Truly have a passion for makeup and in any chance I get I go into my makeup room and play with it and try new products and let my friends and family know about the good ones. ❤️ where are the true makeup lovers???
I LITERALLY WAS WONDERING “WHERE DID MAKEUP GEEK GO?!??” ALL YEAR! So so so so glad that you made this video. It’s so important.
Yeeessss Marlena! I bloody love you. The good people in this industry have stayed quiet for too long, and it’s let the shady people thrive. It’s about time we spoke up and took back the beauty community. You are so inspiring and I absolutely adore makeup geek products and will always use them and support you. ❤️
Yes girls that's what I subscribed to you both for! Thank you both For speaking up 😘
You're one of the few bigger influencers doing it for the right reasons. I learned so much from you about how to do makeup on my hooded eyes. Even though you no longer have hooded lids😅, I learned so much. Thank you!❤
YAS GIRL! As viewers, we are over these shady people too!
I also loved your video you posted not too long ago! You are beautiful on the inside out❤️
YAAASSS!! Let's be so positive and truthful we run out all these half ass "gurus" with bad intentions.
Girl, I started following you TEN years ago! Keep kicking ass, you INSPIRE ME!
YOU GO!! I understand.. when the hustling is getting to much...wish I could break into this industry but seeing all of this drama is quite scary.
Sending all my love and strength!
I'm no influencer, but I just gotta say, Marlena is MY OG beauty guru. Literally a decade ago I was struggling with covering up my skin condition (vitiligo) and I decided to message Marlena on her back then blog to ask her advice, and she sent me a very nice reply with her suggestion. I support this woman like crazy, because she's always been about the art. Back when youtube didn't even pay she was consistently uploading tutorials, some of which I followed and wore to parties. I remember when MUG came out with its first round of eyeshadows, and I was using the sade "preppy" as a contour shade and getting so many compliments on it (of course, contouring was the new thing then, haha) and I am so happy to say that I still use and love my MUG products, even if I'm Mexican and I use the warm porcelain shade for contouring now, and it reminds me how badly I need a tan, LOL. Shoutout to Marlena for always being so fucking classy and choosing being professional and an overall good person vs. getting the numbers.
Yeya this is almost my exact story! I have vitiligo too and Makeupgeek was the first beauty channel I subscribed too! Sending you love ♥️
Who else came from Tati’s video
just come over halfway from tati's video
🙋🏻♀️
Came halfway through her video to this. I had to watch !
Saaame sis
Me! But I watched Tati’s whole video first.
I miss your videos Marlena you taught me how to do makeup with that og bhcosmetics palette before makeup geek and bought those pigments back in the day! You are making so much sense here!!!
Just the whole environment, the ridiculousness surrounding it, the waste produced, the palettes are getting boring. Do we need this much makeup, this many palettes that are so similar. So much poverty out there, we are filling our planet with all this waste. People need to step back and ask themselves some serious questions.
Dhyana Paresan I love this beautiful comment
AMEN!!!!
I feel the same way. I buy make up and use it for a while. Seems like such a waste to purchase every pallet that comes out. People need to look at the world around them and realize what's more important.
How can we, as viewers, ever trust influencers when there is so much money being paid for them to promote brands? Ugh...so disappointing. Thanks for staying classy and honest, Marlena ❤️
YES, say it louder for the people in the back! Marlena, you are and have always been a down to earth sweetheart and I believe you have genuinely good intentions. We need more people like you in this industry and I’m sad to have seen things go down hill. SUPPORT SMALLER BRANDS!!!!
I would support you for sure. You have put your heart and soul into this industry. I appreciate the detail and care you have taken. You are spot on 💕💕💕
🙌 ok so I'm officially a makeup geek customer. You had me at made in the U.S!
You need to reach out to Emilynoel83! You two are two peas in a pod! Beautiful souls and not money hungry!
Chit Chat with Susie Emily Noel, yes!!!
Yes I second that @Emilynoel83 is amazing
Agreed!
Yes!!!!
As well as jambeauty!!
MARLENA!!! I appreciate you coming out and letting people know where you're coming from. I've always been so proud of how you've conducted yourself, and maybe it's just that we're both bay area babes so we think alike! Those of us first-gen beauty gurus have been feeling this way for such a long time, and like you I was afraid to comment on this, because when I've tried to in the past, I've been BURNED. But I'm done being afraid, and I think those of use who really are here for a sense of community and makeup love and ready to be more vocal about it. Also dude- email me, we should totally work together! You know how much I love MUG and you!
Yes!! I hope she takes a good look into your channel, Cora. I commented yesterday on this video and named you specifically to look for!! Been watching you for years!!! ❤
Cora @vintageortacky I have watched you practically since you've started. Always speak your mind that's why we love you, and genuind people like Marlena! Keep strong!
I immediately thought of you, Cora when she asked for recommendations for influencers!
Love Cora!! She’s truly genuine and honest!
You, Emily Noel, Angelica Nyqvist and Marlena are some of the very few on RUclips that I can trust a review on anymore, sad but true, you guys seem to be part of the very few who promote something simply because you love it!! Love you ladies!! xx
thank you for always being honest and sincere. your passion and transparency will take you a lot further than greed. sending you love and only the best wishes 💕 Love supporting your ethical brand.
I agree 1000000%. It’s not about the make up anymore. I have followed you since day one..❤️😘
I remembered my first makeup was inspired by the hot tamale makeup video.. so stay real and keep inspiring us..
i agree with everyone about Emily Noel!! you should really do a collab with her!! such a kind and genuine girl!
Yes Emily Noel 👍
Yes! Emily Noel is very genuine and cares very much about putting out honest content.
Yes to this!! %100.
Emily Noel is the sweetest most honest RUclipsr ever.
She’s amazing. I’m so happy for her Emily edit palettes.
Yes!! Emily is the most honest beauty youtuber out there! ❤️❤️
YES, she is literally one of like, 3 beauty youtubers I actually trust. Integrity is easy to see and hard to find here.
I definitely understand what you're saying about the industry today, I've noticed the changes over the past few years to now. Some of these changes caused me to take a step back from making videos or doing different makeup looks due to the higher standard influencers are now held to. I absolutely love makeup and the creative ideas that comes along with that! I hope that you will give someone like me a chance to make a difference in the community but most importantly you'll give me a platform to live out my dreams. Thank you for speaking your truth.
My favorite eyeshadows ever!! Will always love Makeup Geek.
That's why I love Emily Noel and Jessica Braun because they are awesome, sweet and stay true to themselves. They are just good people.
So true. And RawBeautyKristi.
I LOVE Jessica Braun. She keeps it's 100%
Love Jessica Braun!
Both of them are so great.
Amy Sweeden i agree!!! I love Jessica Braun, she is so real!
YES YES YES! I AGREE!! I'm a smaller influencer, THIS VIDEO WAS ON POINT!!
Subscribed
I love your videos 😘😘😘❤️
Rose Kimberly And you’re an Influencer with heart and soul!
Thank you for sharing your experiences and feelings with us. It’s definitely not easy. I’m not a makeup influencer. I’m a psychotherapist with a passion for makeup. Thank you again for feeling comfortable sharing with us 💜
I’m here from lovelyti’s video and I am not shocked by what happens behind the scenes. I sense you have a big heart and millennials creating their own brand and making a name for themselves is a tough business. Big influencers and micro influencers need to have a niche and something that makes them stick to be noticed, subscribed to and followed by others. I think a lot of big influencers are overrated with inflated egos just to wear the same trendy face/makeup. I hope you keep doing your thing, stay true to yourself and your truth so you can finish strong👏🏾
I would love to know who is charging 20-60k for social media influencing so I could unfollow/fully unsupport immediately, that absolutely disgusts me. Teachers, Police Officers, and more are busting their tails every day and barely making a living. I love RUclips but I don’t believe any ONE deserves that much for being an influencer.
Preach!
True! People who went to school and have a degree don’t even make as much as these influencers :/ kind of unfair in a way
AMEN
The advertising industry is big, just like the entertainment industry, fashion, medical, etc. it’s not about deserving, the market decides who gets paid the most. Teachers won’t get bigger salaries if Jaclyn hill decides to charge 1k per video, do you understand that?!
Ashley Hobbs I think is pretty easy see who are the money hungry influencers I mean who are the ones that are always talking about their so called humble origins and then they do closet tours and use lots of luxury items. The funny part is the can use as much luxury as they want, but they still look cheap.
I respect an OG stepping up for the community that she's helped to build! The once "Beauty Community" is now a cut throat Industry. Very well said and much respected!
I know right! I almost wish she would tell everyone else to sit down lol
But who has created this mess? Think about it. All of those companies are to blame for taking the same youtubers on special trips. How can another artist climb aNd compete?
It's like the kid in a cookie jar situation. A kid will take as many cookies as he can until his mom or someone of authority says no. The rates have probably slowly grown over the past 8 years and now they feel entitled and honestly delusional. Ad rates for traditional media i.e magazines, commercials, the super bowl ads things like that, have always been crazy high. So when Social Influencers became part of the market they could get a rate that's already high and then they keep raising the rate with no one telling them no.
I've been watching you for many years! Thank you for your honesty, it's so discouraging to hear what is happening. Things have really changed in the past 10 years. Keep up the amazing work
Thank you for speaking out about this! I will be making my first purchase from makeup geek 😊
This is so refreshing to see. You will change the beauty game by supporting micro influencers. Micro influencers are more loyal to their followings and not to the pay cheque. This will benefit you and Makeup Geek- you’re on the right track👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I agree! Plus it will be nice to get some fresh new faces and opinions on products. The same few huge influencers seem to have all the same "opinions" on all these brands. Now we see why. The pay checks they receive.
I am already planning on buying some Makeup Geek products now that I've seen this video. She feels so genuine and real that I have a lot of respect for her. I've heard Makeup Geek was all the rage on RUclips years ago, but as someone who has really only watched RUclips for 2 years, I had not heard anything and thus never purchased anything.
@@PotentialofHydrogenClean her products really are amazing! I use them on my channel all the time. And they are super affordable which is even better lol
I can't agree more. I unsubscribed from literaly everyone in the past 10-15 months I got sick of it. And now I'm finding smaller influencers like Xparkage, makeup artist Monika Blunder and I'm like... Yea, this is what RUclips is about in the beauty community !
MakeupMenaree Cool. Before I head over to Target to make my first purchase, I will check out some of your videos for ideas. Thanks!
Lmao I am getting the Manny Mua vibe since she mentioned about social climbing
this video was recorded immediately after and in response to manny's second video. she tweeted it was going up almost immediately after he posted his second video. she didnt mention his name, but most of this video is about him.
Same, and he collabed with make up geek two years ago, I think Laura Lee did stuff with them too
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She bought Manny’s lights when he was starting out on RUclips
yep haha
Thank you for being honest and transparent. You have a great brand and a great mission. Other influencers may be great at what they do but it’s okay if that price point doesn’t work for your brand. It doesn’t make you less successful. Looking forward to seeing more from you. Many Blessings 💜
I started a channel a while ago just to do makeup share tips and help friends out and to just share my love for makeup and skin care (because I am an esthetician and MUA)and I shut it down for a while because life happens. I restarted it a few years ago as me time after having a baby because I had fun doing it- I have only a few people following so nothing big but I stopped because I saw all the drama going on and didn’t really want to be a part of a community like that. I just wanted honest reviews and have fun with makeup and do tutorials- I’m tempted to come back because of the few true ones out there just to help build the community back to what it used to be. I love how genuine true and honest you are and always have been. I’ve personally never used MUG (yet) but will become a customer because of who you are Marlena- you are so classy and you stay true to who you are and it shows. ❤️
I noticed no one talked about makeup geek anymore and it breaks my heart! I bought makeup geek bc of the now big influencers of RUclips and now they don’t talk about them anymore... same thing with Sigma. Your shadows are amazing... still use them and I still love them! Good for you for speaking up! ❤️ love you Marlena !
Christina Sciblo I agree, I don’t hear about MUG or Sigma ever anymore. I assume it’s for the reasons she mentioned. I remember when Sigma was everywhere. Now nobody uses them - why? I think they are good brushes right? Oh wait, they can’t pay them anymore. Ah, I see. That’s crap. Use products you like and be honest. Don’t just push products that you are paid to promote.
Aww I think a lot of people still praise a lot of MUG products! I guess it's hard to compete with all the launches always coming out, but I know MUG has a rep for having lots of people's old favorites.
I was literally just thinking about this!
they just wanna use products that sponsor them
That I was thinking too
Ive reached out. Been here 11years but most companies only support the ones you are complaining about. 10k used to be the hot #... now its a million.
Destiny Godley yessss !!! I love your channel !!!!!
Wow..I grew up watching You, SongbirdDiva, makeup geek and etc.
I agree they purposely pick influencers with millions of subscribers that already have sponsorships and are already doing well. Why not reach to smaller channels?
I'm new to the beauty influencer scene and it sucks that the smaller growing channels are over looked.😿
@@lovelylana7614 so true!!
I love your integrity! Thank you for speaking up. It’s so refreshing to hear neutrality and transparency from someone so successful.
Very much appreciated!💕
This is such an insightful video. I'm really excited to see some new beauty vloggers emerge. It's really difficult to continue following the vloggers who are well known because I'm sick of hearing about the childish dramas going on between them. I want to hear about HONEST, REFRESHING, and REAL reviews about makeup.
Get Emily Noel!! She’s so incredible.
Makeup Geek was on the map before anyone and truly made affordable makeup before there a lot of online brands. Thank you for your integrity!
MelissaQ I love makeup geek but I wouldn’t say they are affordable
Makeup geek isn't affordable. The only thing affordable in their range is the single shadows
It is a little bit more expensive. It is made in the USA so they can't use workers that work 14 hour shifts every day and has 150 $ in total salary per month like the Chinese factories do. I rather save up to buy MUG.
Also morphe is trash.....
MelissaQ love ur channel😍
I think it’s amazing that you are addressing all of this. I have a minuscule following, and truly enjoy just doing reviews for my friends, family, and acquaintances. I have loved makeup for years solely because of the OG RUclips which you had a HUGE influence on. I wish it wasn’t about the money, I feel like everyone would be WAY happier. The bigger influencers aren’t even relatable anymore with the amount of money they have. They are celebrity status at this point and are all lacking in being relatable. Now that MUG is in Target it is definitely easier to shop (coming from someone who loves instant gratification). Can’t wait to try your stuff soon!
Your brand was the first high end brand I ever bought from.. I still remember watching your makeup tutorials and buying your individual shadows and creating a z pallete that I still have. Your makeup tutorials were the start of my love for makeup and here I am today so many years later starting my very own youtube channel.. you inspires me to peruse that interest and love in makeup that I have, thank you for always being so genuine and grounded to your followers!
Emilynoel83....now that girl is passionate about makeup!
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I love Emily!!!
flaca123ish yes!
flaca123ish yes love her! She is genuine and has kept it that way. Follow and love her too.
collab with her please
flaca123ish Bought here palette because she’s deserving of all her success.
Umm 60k is what my 50 year old mom makes a year with her masters degree. A YEAR!! And ppl are asking that much for a video?! Oh heck no I will literally never listen to another successful RUclipsr complain about money again!
IKR!! I can't believe this!! It's crazy! Can we say greedy?!?!
Oh I'm so excited you said your launching in Target.....I've never tried Makeup Geek and can't wait to get some 😁
Omg yes I love your transparency one this topic ! This is such a great video to do